We Loaded A 16" Projectile Into Turret 1!
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- Опубликовано: 16 сен 2023
- If you've been following our channel, you know we turned a turret. The main reason we did that was to access what's known as a strikedown hatch - an opening in the deck through which projectiles can be lowered or raised.
We just lowered our first projectile. Here are some highlights of the process.
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For other video on Turret 3 rotating:
- On deck (part 1): • Turning Turret III Aft...
- On deck (part 2): • Turning Turret 3 After...
- Inside the rest of the turret: • Inside A Rotating 16 I...
- Starting the motor: • How To Train Your Turret
- How we powered the motor: • How To Power A 16" Gun...
Turning the turret was the result of months of hard work and research by our team, as well as input from Iowa Class battleship veterans. We make it look easy, but it's most definitely not.
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All that old equipment just refuses to die. It's amazing to me how all that equipment can just sit there motionless for multiple decades and then simply switched back on and function perfectly as if it has been continuously used on a regular basis. Being able to use those large electric winches to raise and lower the shells after sitting still for decades is just as cool, to me, as rotating the turret for the first time is 30+ years. Nice job, IOWA crew!
It's to bad mentality of government and business is short term now days.
It really is quite remarkable. Most machines need to be used regularly or they just rust and die and rot. The worst thing you can do to a machine is not use it.
@@russellparker5272 Not a battle ship, but still amazing IMO. ruclips.net/video/AkeR9IWkJKE/видео.html
Yes, they designed & built things to a much higher standard back then. A lot of it has to do with the "tools" at hand, no such thing as a PC or "palm pilot" or iPad, those engineers used a little thing a bit archaic by our standards called a "Slide Rule". I've used one (yes, I'm that old) in my HS days ( Central Catholic Pittsburgh, PA.) but we're talkin' damn near 50 year's ago. Don't ask me to now.😊😊 now.8
So@@russellparker5272
next step is to get the loading elevators working
And clean out the bores for a test shot.
next step is to stop recording for other countries to see
@@blakek1043 you do understand that those gun turrets were built in the 40's right?
@@greencanner4284 that's why they probably will still work 😂
@@blakek1043there is nothing classified about anything you see on these ships and none of them will probably ever return to service so it really isn’t benefiting any other country
It’s refreshing to be able to witness achievements from all Battleship museum curators across America; as they are some of the most rational folks on the planet. Congratulations on your milestone with regards toward this long term planned event. Great detailed choreography, tasteful background music, and well-spoken explanations.
Thank you. Much appreciated!
I can't imagine what a well oiled machine the sailors of these battleships were to strike down and store the shells for each turret.. thousands at a time. I bet even in their old age having been away from the ship for decades those sailors could do it in their sleep. You folks did a good job yourselves. However imagine watching those sailors do it!!!
Teamwork, makes the dream work. They probably had enough men to relive each other.🤷♂But yea, real men, er, boys. I'm glad I'm not serving today.
@@jakerazmataz852 absolutely. It's a given that it was a "all hands" activity. I'm talking about the sailors having the whole process and what their job was, Hell probably knew their job and the jobs of the men on either side of them too! Over the time of enlistment or even a deployment doing that stuff so many times and for periods of time. Their movements were all muscle memory. Without even thinking about what they were doing the task was breed into them so that when the proverbial stuff hit the fan those tasks became second nature.
What's amazing to me is that this is essentially a ballasting operation. That's going to be a LOT of shells!
She mentioned 170 of them - that's nearly 150Tonnes!...
170 shells for ballast compared to a full load capacity of ~1300 mixed AE/HC and heavier AP shells.
Sights and sounds that haven’t been seen or heard in over 30 years, and most of these activities probably were never recorded on video before. Fabulous!
Pretty cool to see that big shell on the move thru the ship … big boy
Great to see how projectiles are moved within the ship.
That's so cool to see the process, and the equipment in use once again! Thanks so much for posting this!
It is refreshing to see such activity on the Iowa. I think she still has her soul!
So do we. ❤️🙏
It is beautiful to see this equipment run so smoothly.
It's a credit to the museum staff and the past crew that kept her so well maintained.
Major kudos to the decommissioning crew. It works because of the job they did.
Wasn’t it great when we kept our country busy building equipment that just works! That should have never been allowed to go away! Nice work everyone!
Bravo Zulu to all involved. The full documentary should be awesome.
Old school may not always be the best school, but man it’s still works
Bad ass. Wish this ship was closer. I visit the New Jersey 3-5 times a year
Outstanding Iowa!
Alright, that's flipping awesome. I toured the USS Iowa about ten months ago. So cool seeing all of it back in operation. Bravo-Zulu.
Probably the first time a shells been loaded in peace time, those guns still sleep quietly, keep taking care of iowa!!!
Great job! It gives folks a good idea about how much effort is involved in projectile handling... that was a single round -
imagine dozens of rounds being loaded - especially in a hurry, or during an UNREP.
Right? It's a pretty incredible process. The thought behind all of it is a little mind-boggling.
can't wait to see you fire the 16 inch big gun
Y E S !!!!!!
"BRAVO ZULU" to Mike, Chief, & Weidenkeller!!! And Marann, of Course!!
At this rate you will recommision this ship.😂
Well, battleships are protected by the 2nd Amendment....
Hard to do since only the Texas is exempt from the part of the Navy contract that forbids them from using the steam systems.
It was said as a joke, but you had to come in and state the obvious.🙄@@Ghauster
@@lawrencet83 I believe they are going to end up leaving the ship in a shape of just gone into mothballs.
You still don't get it....whatever.@@Ghauster
❤❤❤❤WTG to all the work taking care of Battleship
Thank you.
Excellent job Iowa Crew ! One down and how many to go ? Keep up the good work and stay safe. Impressed with the reliability of your hoists and capstans. Iowa has come alive.
They did that one by one in the days?! 😮
And those projectiles really are MONSTROUS.
Yeah, but you wouldn't have 3 men doing the lot, you've have a huge chain gang of guys moving all the shells about eveytime they restocked.
I believe the ship has several loading points in the deck for the turrets so a fully functional and crewed Iowa-class BB wouldn't normally load all the shells by turret three then use the rail to bring them to #1 and #2. The Iowa just deemed that spot the best for loading the ship in its present state.
@@roadsweeper1 i can imagine they moved a lot faster too.
@@roadsweeper1You are correct Sir. It was usually an "all hands" affair unless done while underway then it was G-Div. and the Deck divisions.
@@garywayne6083You are correct Sir. Each 16" Turret has two(2) strike down hatches alongside the Turret Barbette.
Imagine that beast flying overhead to its destination.
Nice work. Can’t wait to return to the IOWA.
2:14 After the movie Battleship I expected the guys transfer it on their shoulders ;) No sweat was spared though, good job, well done!
I was going to mention the 2012 Battleship movie with the Missouri as the chief actor (imo). The scene with - was it six guys? - moving a shell resting on one shoulder of each man, what a hoot. 1900 lb. shell weight distribution 317 lbs. per shoulder. A 2700 lb. AP? A whopping 450 lbs. for each guy.
And, why not used the overhead railing in Broadway? Moviemakers.
@@brianchapman3701 4 guys, 475 pounds carried by each man, 1900 pound HC shell. No wonder they were grunting. ruclips.net/video/qtya4AkGvO8/видео.html
Holy cow! Thats cool!
Man you guys have the coolest job!
Truth!
Kudos Marann, you're a great videografer. I miss the ship❤
Thanks, Bob. We miss you, too!
They need to do this on the USS New Jersey!
Very good gentleman, let's try cutting the time by 2 minutes. Excellent video.
Great work…super content BZ
Very nice, thanks for sharing!
My served on the Tennessee, 42-end of the war.
An amazing perspective of the insane amount of work required to service even a small part of these ships.
Well said. SO much work goes into these ships!
Very serious firepower,one will obliterate one target.
Very 😎
I cracked up when you showed the photo of that projectile hauling scene in battleship. Hauling that silly projectile when they could just sling it on the ibeam.
This ship is really well maintained, she looks like ready for some action!
That hand so near that chainfall motor...
Never...Never...NEVER!
That's pretty cool.
The picture is just gold 😂😂😂
Couldn't resist...
Awesome! Excellent production quality on this video and I can't wait to see the documentary.
I was the hook man in the annular space, I hooked many a projectile back in the day. I never thought I would see parbuckling live again, magnificent job. I was a bit surprised at how easily the shell slid across the deck without it being oiled like it was when we did it. I wish I could be there to help with this process. I would fly out and help for a few days if you gave me a bunk on the ship to sleep at night :)
Shoot us a PM. We've got bunks!
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles I sent you an email and look forward to your reply.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 Haven't found an email from you yet. If you wouldn't mind, shoot another one to podcast@labattleship.com
Would shells have had to be moved like that during combat? How easy would it be to stand a fallen shell back up on it's tail?
@@Akm72 Yes, there is a straight passageway called Broadway, it runs from turret 3 to turret 1. If turret three got knocked out in combat and ammunition was short they would be moving shells via the monorail. Getting a shell upright is another story. There are pad eyes everywhere in spaces where shells are stored. If it is close enough to a pad eye you would click a portable wench onto a pad eye and right the shell. I do not believe a group of people could right one by hand.
Sweet!
That’s amazing to see. Thank you.
"We loaded a projectile into turret 1".......And I'm already at "and then we inserted the primer in the breach....."
Imagine doing that in rough seas ! yikes - very interesting hoss-ing those big projectiles
around -- no sham time for battleship sailors it would appear
ET's in trouble now...
I well remember when while still in the commissioning yard of Pascagoula when I was told by the captain to get the 5" and 16" guns ready to test fire before we were even commissioned. Suddenly all of those hoists and chain falls had to be weight tested, and the few crew I had in the weapons department at that time had to figure out how to strike down the three rounds per 16" gun and five rounds per 5" gun we had decided were about right for a test. That was quite a feat, but I will always remember the even more astounding accomplishment of spending two days with an ammo ship alongside during gun ammo replenishment starting the day after we departed Pascagoula immediately after commissioning the ship. I cannot imagine any other ship or Navy being able to do that. What a crew we had! Rich Gano recommissioning Weapons Officer 198.3-86
At the time of recommissioning I was a journalist who reported from Pascagoula for the Cedar Rapids Gazette. Darned if I don't remember your name. Could be we met. Much appreciated your post above. (Visited Iowa three times, first when she was in reserve, June 1980. What an incredible ship.)
@@brianchapman3701 Iowa gave tremendous support to us as we recommissioned the ship, and we surely enjoyed it.
Я надеялся что будет еще и выстрел🙂💪. 16" - сила👍
You guys are going to outdo New Jersey pretty soon, they better hurry up and get her into the yard before you complete your ballasting operation!
super cool!!!
Battleship New Jersey needs more ballast for drydock. Hopefully they can find some inert rounds.
They just need it too go under the bridge probably gonna dump it before going in the drydock
@@dennisverhaaf2872 Not sure I recall exactly, but it seems like Ryan said they'd have to take the top off the mast.
@@brianchapman3701 yes they need that and take on some ballast as well
The initial requirement for ballast up forward was to trim the ship to a more level attitude. Right now it's stern down (34-something draft aft and 26-something draft forward), which apparently is pretty much the natural state for a museum-configured (as in no ammo, no fuel, no stores, no crew) Iowa-class ship. To get close to where she needs to be, about 500,000 gallons (approx 2075 tons) of river water will be taken into the peak tanks.
For drydock, a more level attitude is desirable for two reasons. Since New Jersey is going into drydock stern first, for comfortable clearance into the mouth of the drydock, the stern needs to go up a bit which of course means the bow would need to go down. Plus, the dry dock operators wanted the ship to come in more level so that when she lands on the blocks, she lands more evenly, minimizing concentrated loads on both the ship and the drydock.
More recently, it was discovered that the original Navy 306-block drydock plan could not be used for the simple reason that there aren't that many blocks available to the dry dock operators. This is necessitating a rework of the drydock blocking plan, and depending upon how that works out, may or may not affect whether New Jersey will need to take on ballast for the purposes of drydock.
Just as a point of information, the New Jersey museum property does have around 60-70+ or so de-milled projectiles, mostly serving as barriers in the parking lot. However, the weight of all of those added up would not have made much of a dent in the weight needed under the original ballasting plan, so it did not make much sense to pursue using them as ballast.
Love the picture from Battleship the movie...
We couldn’t resist. 😁😉
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles My thoughts also. Great video and respect to your efforts in maintaining this beautiful battleship.
I wonder why some hoisting locations were designed with winches and others were designed with chainfalls.
I'm going to say it's the distance your moving them. Chain-falls have a shorter reach. Also the winch is setup on a temporary davit point and generally weigh less then a chain-fall.
@@Ghauster You are correct. It is easier to store a cable than a like length of chain. The cable hoists must be able to be partially disassembled in order to train the turret. The chain hoists are fixed, and have less travel.
@@richardkoehnen7348 yes. You can see the stowed jib on top of the turret from the camera they had on second deck view of the turret rotating.
Cool 😎
"why don't we fire commander!?!?"
-romulan bird of prey crewmember
At this point you guys might as well just make everything operational
Playing catch-up, Missouri already took out the alien spaceship....
I have heard that the shell decks were lightly oiled to make pushing the shells across the deck into the storage positions easier. Is that true, and did you try and replicate some of that in the turret to see what kind of difference it makes?
We haven't oiled the deck so far. The projectiles move decently on the residual of what's there, and since we're new to the whole process, we want firmer footing, at least for now. Parbuckling is intimidating. We're taking our time and moving slowly to be as safe as possible.
Do you use old hands that was station on the ship to help with the work ? I seen where you found one hand that grease the bearing .
Absolutely! Whenever we can. They know all the tricks. They help keep us safe. We've had two retired chiefs advising us throughout this process. There is no way to adequately quantify how valuable they have been. (And they're a lot of fun, too.)
Bad people! You disproved 'battleship'! Two guys are moving a round at a walking pace down broadway....lol
😂 Sorry (not sorry).
now we just need to see a 16 inch gun fired with a full service charge , would probably need to tow her off shore to not shatter every window within a mile but it would be a glorious sight
Yeah, no.
Big bullet.
Sure guys. It’s not a LIVE round! I’ve watched all the movies and tv show. I know you guys keep a few live rounds in storage. Just in case! You need them.
Haha I wondered where Ryan was then I realised… it’s a different ship lol 😝
I can imagine it probably took the better part of 2-3 days for a full crew to strike down powder and shells for all 3 turrets.... thats with 1000 plus crewmembers... i can only imagine how long one turret will take with only 10 employees and a few volunteers.... while also juggling scheduled tours. correct me if im wrong on any of those numbers.
4:22 that scene in Battleship made me lose braincells
Bravo Zulu Iowa Crew
Great to see this old equipment still able to do what it was designed so long ago to do; also great to see at ruclips.net/video/elHXxCN0Fu4/видео.html that I've been using my Otterbox Defender phone case wrong since I got it a few months ago, with no manual I hasten to add. I didn't know it could also clip into the holster so as to protect the screen; I do now, cheers!
Great work Iowa crew, but that looks like a job for 18 year olds. 😁👍🏻
Meh. Why be limited by a number? 😉
Only about 300 more to go
So in the movie Ballaship it would be impossible to move a projectile from storage to a turret full stop, i understand its a movie, but if they had to move a projectile from a forward turret hold to aft turret, then they would use the overhead crane set up and not carry it?
the transport guys surely must have worn shoes with safety caps!!
Seems a shame that you cut out the transition from the hoist to the transfer chain fall device. Is there at least a description somewhere how that is done? GREAT vid!
Are yall going to oil the shell deck? I had heard somewhere that those decks were oil to help the shells slide easier. It looked like a gouge got put in the floor near the end of the video.
So far it's working with just the residual that's on the deck. No gouge. Just left a trail. All good.
Live ordinance on board
Hi, I have a question that I was wondering the answer for a long time. What if the gun is loaded and ready to shoot but then the captain of the ship calls a ceasefire. Is it possible to unload the gun ?
2:16 This is how you move a 2700 pound AP (or 1900 pound HC) projectile between turrets. The scene from the movie Battleship (where the crew carries the last projectile by hand) is completely unrealistic. But that's Hollywood for ya...
Are the floors of the shell handling decks still greased?
Not really. There's a bit of residual in there, but not too much.
What does the term “strike down” mean exactly?
You guys at the museum have to be careful, all this turret turning, anchor dropping, and striking down of projectiles is making the ship think that its time to hurt people and break things.
Maybe the Iowa Class belongs in the South China Sea. Well, maybe not, but. . . .
I think certain people in the world could use a little reminder of what the biggest "f**k around and find out" weapon the U.S. has ever fielded did and can still do. Js
Long Beach , CA.
October 11 , 2023
Journeymen Shipfitter Graduate Apprentice : Naval Shipyard Long Beach ( 7/25/1977 - 9/30/1997 because the Politicians in the White House thought it was CUTE to Officially Close Us 9/1997 )
We had every Trades Apprenticeship Programs Under the Sun.
We did the Battleship USS New Jersey 1980 - 1982 & Battleship USS Missouri 1982 - 1984 ( Back to Back...Worked from can't to can't , couldn't see when you got up , couldn't see when you got off.
Is there any chance of seeing down the barrel? Inside the breach of the 16” guns?
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@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles thank you! I’m new to this channel but totally obsessed with the Iowa
@@rickybobby7285 Cool! We won't do anything to discourage that obsession. 😂
and these are repainted drill rds. The AP rds weighed 2700 lbs
Shouldn’t the round be blue since it’s inert, and a practice round???
It was until we painted it. 😉
Great rack!
I gotta believe they did all this a lot quicker in combat situations
Oh for sure. This was the first time we tried it. We were going slowly and deliberately on purpose.
So in the movie "Battleship," those guys could have just used the yellow beam instead of carrying that shell across the ship?
I'm starting to think that particular movie was almost pure fiction and not a documentary at all! :)
🤣
Is it me or are they slowly reactivating her for the navy.
It's you. There are no plans to ever reactivate them. In the case of the New Jersey they reassigned the name New Jersey to another ship. That's how sure they'll never use it again.
I understand it would be cheaper to rebuild new BBs. That's how much work would have to be done to these old battle wagons. For things like the 16" guns the Navy may heist them from the old ships. The Navy could do that. The Navy still has the right to take anything they want off of them I understand.
@@robertthomas5906 There's a new USS Iowa also. She's a Virginia class submarine. Don't know if she's entered service yet, but she is in the water.
You have to be faster, Aliens are attacking you!
So when we going to be ready to hit the high seas and fight some pirates?
😆👍
I wondered if they had electric hoist back during ww1 and. Ww2 ??
The hoists you see in the video are all original design to the Iowas. Not saying they haven't had maintenance rebuilds or replacements, but am saying that the ship was originally equipped with hoists in the places shown by the video.
Meanwhile on BB NJ....
Now go down to a bunch of firearm shops and buy a bunch of black powder to make a few charges and fire that baby!! 😂
Need to restore power to the gun elevation system and then work up to being able to actually chamber a dummy projectile that can be removed. Of course you wouldn't want to chamber a real projectile because if the bearing band engages the rifling, it's going to take a big effort to remove it. So use a fiberglas replica that has no bearing band, and a hook in the bottom to pull it back out.
I think a great display would be to motorize the cradle of the left gun and the rammer to show how the (fiberglass) shell was loaded and rammed into position, motorize the door of the powder elevator and the rammer on the center gun to show how the bag charges are rammed into position, and motorize the breech plug of the right gun to show how the gun in closed and made ready to fire.
Resetting for the next cycle could be done rather easily.
The visitors would then only have to imagine the actual elevation of the barrels in their minds.
if they can do that, they can load a single powder bag and fire them for celebrations
@@greencanner4284that would damage the barrels.
@@Coinz8 how would that damage them? Those barrels were designed for 6 powder bags behind a 2000 lbs projectile, a single powder bag with nothing in front of it would do nothing.