it is funny that in America, a cayenne is called a mid-size SUV, in Europe that is like among the biggest SUV in the market and still most people find it too big :)
Curiosity...as the owner of two of them, did you buy or lease? Trying to determine if long-term battery wear is something to consider when getting one of these hybrid vehicles. No one talks about the cost to own/maintain batteries down the road.
Bingo that’s the #1 question. Porsche reliability is good very good overall. However since it’s a new generation technology…… it’s reasonable to estimate it won’t be cheap to repair out of warranty. To me these are cars to lease rather than own until the technology and engineering has been proven over a few hundred thousand miles and 10 or more years.
You should have shown the Hybrid screen showing E-Hold and E-Charge, as well, as two additional options (for driving in Hybrid mode while maintaining the battery level, and for charging the battery, respectively)... These are important features that add to the versatility of Porsche E-Hybrids...
Actually there is no CVT on current generation PHEVs. Most producers (Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW etc.) use the same inefficient system that Porsche is also using: an electric motor sandwiched between the gas engine and the classic automatic transmission. The best and most efficient ones completely eliminate the automatic gearbox and power shaft for SUVs, reducing complexity and using the gas engine in a much more relaxed and efficient way. They also avoid using belt-driven CVTs because they are closer to BEVs and allow the electric motors to actually drive the wheels directly. Mitsubishi is one of them, with 2 electric motors, one in the front and one in the back, including a 4WD lock system that splits the power 50-50 front and back, but without the need of a shaft or any viscous coupling system. The gas engine has only one speed and is coupled to the wheels only at higher speeds, while at lower speeds it functions as a generator that provides electricity to the electric motors. They also have fast-charging with V2H via Chademo and a large enough battery of 20Kwh for the 2022 models. Toyota and Lexus system is the most efficient, because it has the HSD system, basically a planetary split transmission with no gears and no CVT-style belt. It's the most reliable and efficient system, keeping the gas engine at all times at it's optimum RPM. It has 3 electric motors and also eliminates the automatic 6 or 8-speed transmission and power shaft entirely for a 4WD SUV. The battery is large enough at 18Kwh but sadly, no fast charging or V2H here. Ford also has experimented with a planetary set type transmission, similar to Toyota. Unfortunately they chose not to use it on SUVs, they only use it on 2WD vehicles. I would love to see the day that Porsche, BMW or Mercedes are using a planetary split transmission similar to the one Toyota uses, with a good front/rear power distribution as Mitsubishi, a large enough battery of 25Kwh (20Kwh usable) for an EV range of 100km and fast charging with V2H systems.
it is funny that in America, a cayenne is called a mid-size SUV, in Europe that is like among the biggest SUV in the market and still most people find it too big :)
Curiosity...as the owner of two of them, did you buy or lease? Trying to determine if long-term battery wear is something to consider when getting one of these hybrid vehicles. No one talks about the cost to own/maintain batteries down the road.
Bingo that’s the #1 question. Porsche reliability is good very good overall. However since it’s a new generation technology…… it’s reasonable to estimate it won’t be cheap to repair out of warranty. To me these are cars to lease rather than own until the technology and engineering has been proven over a few hundred thousand miles and 10 or more years.
You should have shown the Hybrid screen showing E-Hold and E-Charge, as well, as two additional options (for driving in Hybrid mode while maintaining the battery level, and for charging the battery, respectively)... These are important features that add to the versatility of Porsche E-Hybrids...
How long does it takes for a full charge
A Super Car. 😊😊
Gr. Reyn. 😊
Actually there is no CVT on current generation PHEVs. Most producers (Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW etc.) use the same inefficient system that Porsche is also using: an electric motor sandwiched between the gas engine and the classic automatic transmission. The best and most efficient ones completely eliminate the automatic gearbox and power shaft for SUVs, reducing complexity and using the gas engine in a much more relaxed and efficient way. They also avoid using belt-driven CVTs because they are closer to BEVs and allow the electric motors to actually drive the wheels directly.
Mitsubishi is one of them, with 2 electric motors, one in the front and one in the back, including a 4WD lock system that splits the power 50-50 front and back, but without the need of a shaft or any viscous coupling system. The gas engine has only one speed and is coupled to the wheels only at higher speeds, while at lower speeds it functions as a generator that provides electricity to the electric motors. They also have fast-charging with V2H via Chademo and a large enough battery of 20Kwh for the 2022 models.
Toyota and Lexus system is the most efficient, because it has the HSD system, basically a planetary split transmission with no gears and no CVT-style belt. It's the most reliable and efficient system, keeping the gas engine at all times at it's optimum RPM. It has 3 electric motors and also eliminates the automatic 6 or 8-speed transmission and power shaft entirely for a 4WD SUV. The battery is large enough at 18Kwh but sadly, no fast charging or V2H here.
Ford also has experimented with a planetary set type transmission, similar to Toyota. Unfortunately they chose not to use it on SUVs, they only use it on 2WD vehicles.
I would love to see the day that Porsche, BMW or Mercedes are using a planetary split transmission similar to the one Toyota uses, with a good front/rear power distribution as Mitsubishi, a large enough battery of 25Kwh (20Kwh usable) for an EV range of 100km and fast charging with V2H systems.
Does the panoramic roof open or is it fixed?
40km on battery only seems rather low for a 17 kW battery.