Steam-powered Lada: first drive
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Steam-powered Lada: first drive
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"Don't forget, safety is always number 2 priority!"
Number 1 is desire
1) Fun
2) Curiosity
3) Fun
No Danger = No Fun :]
So what is the number 1 priority?
Russian: Everything else
"Highest Number Priority"
finger guards are number 3
I'll bet that Lada's engine has never been cleaner than after that deep steam cleaning , not even when it was brand new...
no he needs to fit an oil tank above the main throttle tube to continually spray oil into the steam otherwise the engine will seize.
@@dariusmccormack7793 Why? Oil in crankcase does the job.
@@PolesAreEverywhere steam will blow right past the rings and fill the crank case with water. water and oil makes non-lubricating sludge.
@@DesertSessions93 that's why you use steam oil not regular oil.
@@dariusmccormack7793 um.... ok sure
Something you never want to hear when dealing with steam. “The tanks have gotten a bit puffy”. 🤣. Y’all stay safe.
I use to work at a huge factory as a gaurd/inspector. If I ever saw the tank "getting puffy" I would be out of there😂
My butt hole vanished when he said that .
This has been the most dangerous thing they've made yet. With that much steam pressure, any rupture would be so bad.
@Vivian Stimpson at least an inch thick , not even kidding .
Best quote ever!, Nobody stands back 😱😨
These Russians are crazy in the best way imaginable!
_"Oh, those Russians..."_
your imagination is extremely simple
When the apocalypse happens and there's no more gas, nobody will be laughing when this dude comes rolling up in his steam powered car
Agreed
yup... after the one hour warm up and you'd better be his neighbor
More like carpocalypse
A steam powered bomb, more like. It literally gives new meaning to a bomb of a car.
Gassed wood is by far more effective. There are places in Russia where this kind of modified cars were used.
Add a pressure sensor that can pop a valve if the pressure gets too high, this way it would be less likely to blow up on you!
Calvin F
But it would make it less russian as well... 😂
Calvin F and attach a steam train-style whistle to that valve :P
That obviously isn't this guy's first priority
better idea is to get a safety burst disc that's set to blow if it goes above a critical level. There's no method for them to fail and not work like a sensor can. You do have to replace them if you do blow one, but it's a LOT more reliable.
Or a valve with a spring which been used for many many years.
Run the exhaust into top of chimney at side as its escaping it causes a vacuum drawing the fire. Be roaring👍😁
That's how steam locomotives do it.
@@HobkinBoi I think he knows that...
Yes needs a trailer for the lads to shovel coal whilst in motion.
Or bigger boilers for distance.
@@statementleaver8095 Hell, might as well make a train out of Ladas.
@@HobkinBoi I'm waiting for an electric Shorty or Uno8 self charging system.
It's got to happen!
Can't really go anywhere further on fossil than locally.
Especially with tiny boilers.
Bad plumbing systems that run unnecessarily through the *cold exhaust system*
that should return to the boiler straight from the outlet manifold.
Now it just needs a steam whistle!
Every time they move they should blow the whistle.
My dad used to say to us kids when we were talking instead of working: "Any steam that's blowin' the whistle ain't turnin' the crank!"
@@LiLi-or2gm lol I'm gonna use that. Sounds like a smart man!
"The tanks have gotten a bit puffy..." translates precisely to "Byeeee!"
This is as mad and brilliant as ever.
As a stoker I can say that this is one of the most dangerous i've seen on RUclips.
yeah that boiler is lethal, no safety valve i can see of
Boiler explosions took many lives during the industrial revolution.☹️
But it's Russia...
Those kids are really good welders. Np.
@@cesteres they weld with tinfoil
I am a stationary boiler operator by trade, and this is the cringefest to end all cringefests!
This is, literally, an external combustion engine.
Yes thats what steam engines r called!
no shit
Rankine cycle engine
@@KuntalGhosh my maths teacher has
"Ghosh" surname
@@mr.waffentrager4400 is he indian?
12:49 "No No No No, Davai Davai"
*Translator* "Come on, stay with me."
That is some very...creative translating.
How come American RUclipsrs can not make videos 1 percent this cool?
The fact that you actually got it to move under it’s own power; is impressive enough by itself! ...well done fellas 👍
No replacement for displacement, that's some artistic translation!
TY BMI Russian.
I always thought this was a pretty common phrase)
SwapBlogRU amongst Americans yea
Displacement is really the right term to use.
@@theeoddments960 anyone sufficiently interested in car culture is going to hear it sooner or later :) I'm British and have heard it first on Roadkill's channel. BMI Russian is balls deep in automotive stuff so it makes sense they'd use it too. Still, it doesn't diminish the fact translation is an art and they do a great job.
That statement is British and comes from Walter Owen Bentley. In the mid 20's, supercharger were becoming the way to go in race (Sunbeam, Bugatti...etc). Bentley wasn't convinced by the reliability and redesigned his 3litre straight six to get a 4 1/2litre.
"Maybe the engine is too small"
So you litterally want us to beg for a new one with a bigger engine?
using standard valves it'll only take a little pressure before they open and allow steam in, it'd slow the motor down. after the valving is fixed, they could use a smaller engine, the torque would be crazy, but the rpm would be pitiful.
A bigger engine won't make a difference if you keep running out of steam. The problem was in the boiler design. They basically built it inside out and they didn't have enough heat flowing through to boil the water fast enough.
Len Gaming that’s wat she said
@@felderup yes they need much stronger springs maybe even run doubles if needed
i was thinking more like the ford flathead model, intake valve side mounted upside down. since they're not subject to fire, they can be made of mild steel. i suppose bash valves would be an even better idea if the spark plug holes were in the right place, then all they'd need is an exhaust valve, but they'd still need the electric starter.
in either case, they need a completely different boiler style, a steam generator, a second oil pump might be converted into a high pressure water pump for it as well.
This has got to be one of the funnest channels on RUclips to watch. I honestly cannot think of anything they have not done to a Lada! So damn funny too! And I’m terribly jealous of their heavy snow falls. I had to sell my snowmobiles (sleds, snow machines) because we never get any damn snow here anymore. Anyway...awesome job Garage 54 guys!
I was planning on building a steam powered race car in the future. I had some ideas to convert a normal car engine like you did but also had some ideas to get around the lack of power (so you couldn't just get out of your car and just walk to the finish line to win the race) . One of the problems is running pressure through the intake manifold. If you manage to find a steel engine head you won't have to worry about this one but if the head is made from aluminum then the studs that hold the intake manifold will just rip out with the pressure I want to make. The only real difference in power between a steam engine and internal combustion engine is going to be related to the pressure pushing on the pistons is being made outside the combustion chamber. In theory, you make the same pressure that the gasoline creates and you'll have the same torque. The "amount" of steam is related to the rpm or speed of the engine with that same torque. I was going to use a small "steam generator" that uses propane torches placed in a circle around a small metal pipe (a very thick one to handle the pressure needed while also being red hot, because metal becomes soft at high temperatures). Then inject water as needed so the only thing needing to be kept hot is the pipe, no need to preheat all the water you carry. This would fit in the trunk, the gas tank replaced with a plastic water tank like that in a camper, and a BBQ propane tank to run the generator in the cab away from the burners. Not enough heat, add another circle of burners. Possibly up to 1 generator per cylinder. Last modification would be on the cam timing. Because of the compression cycle of the engine, if you timed the cam with a 1-1 ratio instead of a 1-2 (cam to crank rotation) you can open the intake valve every time the piston goes down and open the exhaust valve every time the piston goes up (more like a 2 stroke engine).
Finally, the reason your car doesn't want to move is because by putting pressure on the intake valves, when the engine has a load on it, the pressure backed up in the intake is actually opening the closed valves and pressing on the pistons coming upwards (because of how the valves open)
You are doing everything right up until the valve springs are literally the only thing that's moving the car. As soon as you put more pressure in the engine, you're pushing air into the cylinders that the pistons are trying to come up in.
-In 2020 we will have flying cars!
2020:
2020- Steam cars :D
and at night in your garage you can distill vodka with it
Pin me when Jay Leno comes and buys this crazy thing
was waiting for that
ruclips.net/video/rUg_ukBwsyo/видео.html
Funny but kind of an insult to the steam cars of that era (ones that Jay has). They were competing against electric cars and then there was an underdog called gasoline engine. :)
I actually sent Jay Leno the video link. :)
"Maybe the engine is too small."
*A month later: Placing three steam engines into Lada samara.
😂😂
Hey don't give him any ideas! 🤔
@@BPJJohn lol
Needs a steam generator (NOT a boiler), a steam turbine, and a 2 speed Torqflite
and puting a big ass steam boiler under it aswell to keep up
"you can feel the power" **Car stalls on the hill** XD hahahahahha. Love this channel.
am ADDICTED to this channel !
Indeed lol.
I'm not scared of Russia in WW3, I'm scared of Russians after it.
Nukes should scare everyone.
@Ginger Ginger Was? Both Russia and the US are still fully armed with nukes and will use them if WW3 comes to pass.
@Ginger Ginger You're a moron, WW1 and WW2 happened. What are you, a holocaust denier? There isn't currently a WW3, obviously, but if the ruling class does succeed in starting it, there will be nukes and billions will die. No nuclear-capable countries have ever gone to war against each other, because the destructive potential of nuclear weapons is so great, let's hope that the threat of nuclear war continues to keep the peace.
Ginger Ginger
Where you born a "PRICK" or do you practise it on a daily basis.????
Russian nukes will scare anybody even the big bad bully should be very afraid
Hey Bartender... I'll have a Piña-Coal-Lada...😏🍹
Louis Becker underrated comment
Best comment for sure lol.
"He was found in the wreck with his hand on the throttle, scalded to death by the steam"
Wreck of the ol' 54.
If you guys ever decide to revisit the steam idea, here's a few thoughts about it. 1) Your boiler is very unsafe, and others have addressed this - so make sure your boiler won't blow up 2) You can re-work the camshaft, so that it keeps the double lobes on the intake, but grind the exhaust lobes so they're round and don't activate the exhaust valves. Instead, drill a hole in the side of the cylinders, so that when the piston reaches BDC, the steam just exhausts through the port, like a 2-stroke gas engine 3) You don't want more displacement, you want less. Steam exerts a huge amount of pressure, and by using just 2 cylinders, you reduce the volume of steam needed, and increase the steam pressure on the 2 active cylinders. If you cut an engine in half, and use the rear 2 cylinders (running opposite each other), that's all you need.
I was wondering if they had tweaked the cam
this man single-handedly defeated greta thunberg with those emissions
Ha, ha... Had to laugh at that comment. 😆
yes... and if Trump see this he will want to start importing them to burn beautiful "CLEAN" coal in
Put more pipes inside the boiler like steam locomotives!
For keep making steam so dont loose a lot of presure whyle drivi g
"we overlooked it on purpose"
It needs a condenser for the exhaust so it is put into a water reservoir to pump it into boiler. You need a steam boiler in the upright position with lots of heating tubes around the fire but not too close. Plus you need a way to keep condensation out of the pistons on startups.
we need a lada turned into a t34
Not a Lada, but look at this
ruclips.net/video/taLvoVXFDmM/видео.html
There really should be a safety valve on this thing, dear god. All steam engines should have a valve that automatically pops off at a certain pressure to maintain some safety. That's scary as hell.
Boiler explosions are no joke for sure.
Exploding those cylinders with higher pressure would give a spectalular view. I believe those things could make quite a damage!
These guys are my favorite Russians, crazy and cool in their own particular way. Great episode guys.
if possible I would love to see a version 2!
They need to put a 300bar diving tanks and try it with that. They will get wheel spin. Like this so they can see.
Not enouf volume
It only got puffy because they cut sections off the tanks making them weak. If they used intact industrial gas tanks, just connected with pipes, they would have lasted just fine.
@@firefly2472 Not from one, but 5 of them would give them more then enough.
A pressure vessel that could generate and hold that much pressure would crush the car, not to mention the forced draft blower system, firebrick lined fire box and a pressurized fuel / burner system you would need and the generator to power all those accessories. It's more about volume than pressure.
9:46 that guy saw the steam tank swell and is backing off. :)
I told you the shape isn't good for high pressure tanks, but did you listen? Noo...
There also wasn't enough heat flow through the boiler to sustain a full head of steam for very long. Poor design for sure.
"Look at that we're flying!!!" - cameraman keeping up on foot. I love these guys.
2:16 goggles my dude.. damn. Then again, you're strapping a home made boiler to a Lada. Never mind, carry on :-)
Just think when the oil runs out this guy will have no problem in running his cars great work my friend just love all the crazy things you do and they all work good luck
9:50 I saw those tanks swell, I thought oh, sugar honey iced tea...a BLEVE explosion is not fun for people around it
this channel deserves 1 millon subscribers, plus the effort to translate... grate job fella
Guess they haven't heard.. "Thou shalt not weld on a pressure vessel."
How was the pressure vessel made with a magic wand? That DOT law is written to discourage morons from welding to energized PV's. It also makes certain it can't be sold or transport any chemical in it now. We alter old tanks all the time they make for great projects e.g. forges, stills, stoves, air tanks etc.
Every project always blows up the previous one. Well, this one is actually a steam bomb.
Next time you would build a nuclear reactor on the cargo area. :D
@@tripplefives1402 Okay, you are right, but I believed the problem is caused by unsatisfactory heat in the boiler. So they need a larger boiler and more heat -> more steam -> more power and speed.
They'd be safer off building a rocket car
YESSSSS! The Lada "Tschernobyl Edition".
You Just need to "mirror" the camshaft and add some heavy spinning weight to the crank, this thing will be crazy if you do it. With steam if you mirror the cam you get a two stroke engine.
I will give you one idea for next engine: NUCLEAR
It would be the same as this. All the reactor does is replace the heat source...the rest of the system is steam
@@twoeightythreez exactly, and this makes it beautiful. No modifications, just smack stack of plutonium oxide and enjoy the ride 😂
Fuck no, remember Chernobyl?
@Allosaurus 67 i should try it
ford already tried with the nucleon. it was extremely radioactive so it never went to production.
Reminds me of the TV show "Revolution" where a school bus & a motorcycle were retrofitted with steam power to get around.
3:41 "the power man, you can feel the power" As the car stalls and starts rolling back downhill lol
That's the way G54 rolls.They try hard, and if they fail - they aren't ashamed to show it.
It was never going to work effectively without a very different cam profile. You want an open inlet valve and closed exhaust when the piston goes down, replacing the combustion with steam. Normally both valve would be closed. Then open exhaust valve and closed inlet valve during the upstroke. It allows full use of the steam power without affecting the power. In the video it was only effectively using some of the steam.
Can you show what the engine looks like inside after a ride?
I want to se that too!
Might as well just put vegetable oil in it. The steam will likely have turned it into sludge in no time.
Man this is *revolutionary* , maybe the car industry will soon get onto this...
You almost have a wood-gas setup there :) That actually works pretty well.
I was just going to ask if they could do that next lol
They foresaw your comment ruclips.net/video/6NvBD3-244w/видео.html
@@wattsmith2656 yeah they need to retry it. That one sucked lol.
Holtzgas.
Garage 54: things you always wondered, but never cared about.
I love this channel
WOW saludos desde argentina !! me encantan sus videos y sus cosas locas
It needs to blazing hot, hotter than anything you've experienced before. Load that fire box full.
PUT rail wheels on it. Put it on the rail line. Plus Steam Horn
Good idea!
Tog gear time:)
Ivan the steam-lada
They'd need permission from the railroad administration.
What made steam cars so admired in their day: Max torque at zero rpm!
Nothing beats a steam engine for grunt off of the line!
Put the steam generator on a trailer, that way, with a minimum of changes, you can test steam power in different vehicles..
Would need some sort of flexible duct for the steam though right? I guess there probably exists something that would work for that.
8 flywheels coming right up! Thanks for the translations.
Your exhaust is supposed to help with the draw
It definitely should have but there wasn't enough flow through the boiler due to poor design. There should have been a lot more smoke coming out of the chimney and shooting straight up.
"our precisely calibrated manometer seems to be on the fritz................"
more like man-o-meter
Plumb the exhaust through a pair of radiators or intercoolers; if it can be plumbed back into the boiler/water tank, it'll both improve the efficiency, ability to stay hotter longer (for more pressure) and use less water.
You've made a pickup truck out of that Lada!
What this project really needs is a good old steam whistle from some old train or maybe ship even!
Such a amazing channel.. share the love!
THESE GUYS MAKE THINGS YOU DIDN'T KNOW YOU'LL ACTUALLY ENJOY WATCHING AND PERHAPS OWN ONE DAY :-))
power a turbo with the steam
Great job guys, very impressive for a small volume engine.
Thanks for sharing and best regards from the UK.
exept the engine i would be sure that your "steam generator" would have : a safety valve, a water gauge glass and an feedwater inlet! would be a lot safer to drive around!
This is one of the most innovative channels I've come across on RUclips. Keep it up, guys!
The "throttle" is more like a regulator in a train steam engine.
When a throttle is a flow regulator...
Try to use water in a closed cycle: use the radiator as a condenser and then push the condensed water back into the boiler with a compressor. This way you will not need to carry much water. Modern steam power uses supercritical steam, which has higher heat and pressures, so all the pipes and condenser must withstand this pressure. You can see the Doble steam car as an example.
“A few easy modifications....”!
Use welding bottles for boiler and use bigger pipes on a homemade intake that looks just like a header exhaust and you can recirculate some of that steam coming out of the tailpipe,like a real steam engine,otherwise you can get further on the exhaust fumes from the fire!
Could there be an issue with valve timing
They changed the valve timing in the first video!
The engine will continue to seize without oil or lubrication
@@_Anthony___ It has lubrication...
@@nicostenfors5690 He means oil mixed with the steam on the intake, the crankcase oil its not enough as the steam will go trought the piston rings and end up mixed with the oil making a non-lubricant white sludge. Just like when you blow a head gasket.
might as well just use vegetable oil since your going to be fouling up the oil so quickly.
IT NEEDS OIL, YOU HAVE TO SPRAY OIL IN THE THROTTLE PIPE. Please look at Jay Leno's best steam car ever built. Take some advice from the best steam car ever built for ideas how to make it work good. You have to insulate the whole thing. Even insulate the burner all over. Any part of the car that gets hot, is a waste. Insulate any hot part and feed the exhaust back into the system. Only vent what you can't re-condense. Use the radiator on the exhaust and feed water back to tank.
Next: converting a locomotive into a Lada 😄
Running in the 90s
1890s, that is
*Edit* you can probably get more power by blocking off 2 cylinders, just keep the two that are 180* from eachother. Also, use a water heater boiler that can stand the pressure
*Edit 2* add some air tool oil to the vapor to lube the cylinders as well
Imagine driving your cabrio behind this car.
if you recycle the steam coming out of the exhaust back to the boiler you would maintain pressure just make sure you put in a pressure release valve so the pressure does not get to high, you could set it to what ever you like, the steam would then become super heated, then you should be able to maintain an idle with the engine
Whistlindiesel and this guy should do a video together!!!
Homie using a glove as a rag after pouring in the oil. Gives a whole new meaning to letting the car warm up.
3:13 Looks like a Dacia Papuc
You know it does
Ten years ago I watched a cult classic movie Escape from New York. It's implied in its setting that some cars were converted to run on steam by the prison's inmates. Ever since I wondered how these could work. Come 2020, there's a steam-powered Lada built by no one else than some crazy Russian dudes.
God this channel is so eastern European it hurts.
*clicks next video *
You'd really want a different cam profile that modified the valves to just have intake and exhaust and eliminate the compression stroke as it's useless in a steam engine. With ultra high pressure steam, the intake would only need to be opened for part of the cycle and allowed to expand for efficiency, but for this type of operation it may as well be open the whole cycle.
Who the hell owns a 5th gen Camaro in Russia, I must be missing something 😂🤔
You need to make a new camshaft. The piston is not working in pairs like you said. One is on power stroke the other is on intake stroke. You can make 4 time more power with a custom cam and have a power stroke on every down travel of the piston. You can route the tail pipe outlet in the cheminy to create a draft to increase the draft. Love your videos.
Greta is gonna have a heart attack when she sees this
They drive her to school everyday in it.....
Oh wait. She doesn't go to school anymore. ;)
HOW DARE YOU!!!!
Most of it is just steam
@@timorouw5555 Steam out the exhaust pipe. Smoke out the smoke stack
Much love from South Africa... MINDBLOWING CONTENT
Greta: how dare y......ohhh.....sorry my mistake I leave now
*Angle grinding next to a freshly painted Supra*
Make woodgas powered lada
@ But your engine runs longer on woodgas when your waiting that yours water boil and turn to steam
They did! ruclips.net/video/6NvBD3-244w/видео.html These guys are pretty awesome
@@wattsmith2656 didnt notice
Well with that type of boiler you would want massively wide pistons. I would recomend a proper tube boiler and maybe around 15 bar of sustainable pressure if a regular engine should handle that hill and keep going for a while on steam. Do check out the Doble Model E for some properly designed steam car from the days before the electric starter. Doble was a very viable option for the richest of people that wanted something that didn't smell and had to be hand cranked. The market for these disappeared but the technology was quite unreal for the time it was made.
The steam exhaust should be fed back into the boiler.
The car wouldn't move at all then.
With gigantic radiator/intercooler it will work.
@@jareknowak8712 are you being sarcastic? Feeding the exhaust back into the boiler would equalize the pressure in the whole system and the steam wouldn't move.
@@Adrian-Ionut no, im not joking.
Google: Rankine cycle.
@@jareknowak8712 that's a whole different system. They are using a piston engine here and not turbines. You would need a water pump and you would need the water to heat up rapidly and turn into steam in seconds. You can't do that by using wood as fuel.
Unclear why the steam pipe was routed 50cm above the roof...
I hope you had a relief valve on that boiler. It goes without saying that it was pressure tested.
Right...?
Pressure tested 1.5x wp?
Sight glass / level test valves?
A way of adding water?
Fusible plug?
The list goes on.....
Great video, but super sketchy!
Greta have heart attack :D good job bratia
If it upsets the Doom Goblin then I'm all for it!
@@GemmaLB World is mad especially in EU
@@od9k5 It sure is!