I am an engineer working in maintenance for mining equipment and block production in Mexico. I’ve watched the same channels and tried applying the same techniques without seeing results. It’s interesting to see the approach of another engineer in a different country to the same problem and how it compares to other disciplines. Greetings, excellent video!
Very interesting perspective. I've also found that much of the advice by the study gurus (without a negative connotation, really, they're awesome) lends itself well to conceptual understanding but is more difficult to apply for procedural skills. It also leaves us without a clear framework to apply when learning topics like math or programming, I think that's the reason why so many comments under those videos are questions "but how to apply this for math?!". In my own experience, my conceptual understanding in these topics has definitely increased by a lot - and I think it's always worth to start there (just not excessively) when learning a new topic in math for example - but procedurally it's more of a blackbox, e.g. I know I'll get better by solving math problems or programming some project, but the skill growth here feels more incidental than 'designed' if you know what I mean.
Truly a summit level technique mastery. Even though, I do for the most part understand and get your method of thinking, It's not possible for me to internalize and attempt it yet.
It’s very interesting to watch your videos I’m curious about how you would build mental maps for subjects that are known to be memorisation heavy like law or psychology Of course it also depends on the e am type
Like he said in the video, he made this video because everyone else has already made videos on mindmapping for declarative subjects but procedural is trickier. If you do research on mindmapping most examples are on declarative subjects
Bro can u provide a system on how to approach the subject so that i can retain information efficiently? Like step by step and last step maybe spaced repition
If you check out the channel videos there's one on studying for a graduate computer science course that describes a study system. But it might be more high level than you're asking for.
on the contrary, pretty much everything is procedural. Math especially declarative, since it is entirely made up and arbitrary. This is why we teach it in steps, because there is no way to intuit the answers to something. Chemistry / Biology on the other hand, must be derived experimentally and observationally. It is all interconnected and intuitive--procedural. We cannot simply create a reaction and will it into existence the same way we can with math.
It's an important debate, especially with respect to teaching. For example if subjects are procedural then arguably students should acquire the knowledge through discovery -- like how scientists derived the original information.
@@AhmniApp that's why I think it's a false dichotomy presented. There is arbitrary, rote information, and information that can be synthesized logically and systematically. For example, the name of the first president of the US, versus the reaction mechanisms of benzene in ochem
The video documents my experiments discovering that Declarative vs Procedural isn't necessarily a useful dichotomy in the context of studying engineering. I ultimately ignore the differentiation and work backwards from a goal rather than a classification to determine inquiry, mental models, and projects. > Math especially declarative, since it is entirely made up and arbitrary > Biology on the other hand, must be derived experimentally and observationally Discovering vs Inventing natural laws is a classic philosophical debate, and to my knowledge there are proponents on either side.
@@AhmniApp thank you for your nuanced responses. it's wonderful to have such. I think what is most useful is relative to each person. Dr. Sung will bash "rote learning" but for many it helps with higher order. And many who are Anki masters could use some mindmapping. Metacognition should always be the goal; the issue is when the temporal nature of pedagogical assessments and expectations do not necessarily align with the abject cumulative progress of the learner. The neuroticism comes from those who struggle with finding the balance, but fail. Standardized testing (to include professional exams) will always take priority, and that generally always will favor the rote over the higher-order.
@@AhmniApp FWIW i have not studied pedagogy to any appreciable extent. beyond basic CRLA. I'm just a "genius" (davidson academy) who has struggled greatly and sharing my own reflections
I am an engineer working in maintenance for mining equipment and block production in Mexico. I’ve watched the same channels and tried applying the same techniques without seeing results. It’s interesting to see the approach of another engineer in a different country to the same problem and how it compares to other disciplines. Greetings, excellent video!
The dude forgot to ask "how questions", and then, when we realised, he made a big fuss about it. And a video.
This is such a good perspective about blooms. I am really really impressed right now.
Yeah I noticed also that having a project with goal will leads to order control in learning, both procedural and declarative.
I came I liked. Well explained and resonates immediately
Very interesting perspective. I've also found that much of the advice by the study gurus (without a negative connotation, really, they're awesome) lends itself well to conceptual understanding but is more difficult to apply for procedural skills. It also leaves us without a clear framework to apply when learning topics like math or programming, I think that's the reason why so many comments under those videos are questions "but how to apply this for math?!".
In my own experience, my conceptual understanding in these topics has definitely increased by a lot - and I think it's always worth to start there (just not excessively) when learning a new topic in math for example - but procedurally it's more of a blackbox, e.g. I know I'll get better by solving math problems or programming some project, but the skill growth here feels more incidental than 'designed' if you know what I mean.
Truly a summit level technique mastery. Even though, I do for the most part understand and get your method of thinking, It's not possible for me to internalize and attempt it yet.
Great! I'm also creating a model similar to yours. thanks for sharing!
holy crap new ahmni drop
It’s very interesting to watch your videos
I’m curious about how you would build mental maps for subjects that are known to be memorisation heavy
like law or psychology
Of course it also depends on the e am type
Please do one for declarative subjects like medicine :)
Like he said in the video, he made this video because everyone else has already made videos on mindmapping for declarative subjects but procedural is trickier. If you do research on mindmapping most examples are on declarative subjects
One word: goated
Bro can u provide a system on how to approach the subject so that i can retain information efficiently?
Like step by step and last step maybe spaced repition
If you check out the channel videos there's one on studying for a graduate computer science course that describes a study system. But it might be more high level than you're asking for.
Appreciate the insights! BTW a request : Could you please release a windows or even android version of the software
Are there any good mindmapping apps for Android?
I think you can just use canvas for android
You can use squid notes. That one is comparable to concept and Ahmni for android.
there is concepts
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on the contrary, pretty much everything is procedural. Math especially declarative, since it is entirely made up and arbitrary. This is why we teach it in steps, because there is no way to intuit the answers to something. Chemistry / Biology on the other hand, must be derived experimentally and observationally. It is all interconnected and intuitive--procedural. We cannot simply create a reaction and will it into existence the same way we can with math.
It's an important debate, especially with respect to teaching. For example if subjects are procedural then arguably students should acquire the knowledge through discovery -- like how scientists derived the original information.
@@AhmniApp that's why I think it's a false dichotomy presented. There is arbitrary, rote information, and information that can be synthesized logically and systematically.
For example, the name of the first president of the US, versus the reaction mechanisms of benzene in ochem
The video documents my experiments discovering that Declarative vs Procedural isn't necessarily a useful dichotomy in the context of studying engineering. I ultimately ignore the differentiation and work backwards from a goal rather than a classification to determine inquiry, mental models, and projects.
> Math especially declarative, since it is entirely made up and arbitrary
> Biology on the other hand, must be derived experimentally and observationally
Discovering vs Inventing natural laws is a classic philosophical debate, and to my knowledge there are proponents on either side.
@@AhmniApp thank you for your nuanced responses. it's wonderful to have such. I think what is most useful is relative to each person. Dr. Sung will bash "rote learning" but for many it helps with higher order. And many who are Anki masters could use some mindmapping. Metacognition should always be the goal; the issue is when the temporal nature of pedagogical assessments and expectations do not necessarily align with the abject cumulative progress of the learner.
The neuroticism comes from those who struggle with finding the balance, but fail. Standardized testing (to include professional exams) will always take priority, and that generally always will favor the rote over the higher-order.
@@AhmniApp FWIW i have not studied pedagogy to any appreciable extent. beyond basic CRLA. I'm just a "genius" (davidson academy) who has struggled greatly and sharing my own reflections
Some criticism:Some memes and movie clips feels out of place
It kinda breaks the flow
@@kirnic6284 Noted. Thanks Kirnic. (Also DM me on discord, I don't think your DMs are open)
Haha the real deal 🔥
damn