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What’s the difference between this and top-down learning?

It would be interesting to know this video’s author background. Are u an engineer?

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You are essentially making a project and writing a "none-linear" documentation for it as you go. I guess this is what Kolb's do as well to some extent. They force you to ask these similar questions on your "procedures" and iterate back as much as needed. To "document" your procedures, analyze them, find gaps and iterate back.

what tablet are you using

Hey, just wanted to tell you I only use ahmni for infinite drawings…Is that fine?

I think I’d change your ending statement of “what makes a topic procedural is our goal” to what makes a topic procedural is our identity. While this may seem confusing at first I (and James Clear, author of Atomic Habits) believe that by thinking in identities rather than goals we’re not limited to one result but a system that encourages desired results. For example a goal would be pressing the corresponding keys on a keyboard to type out some word/sentence/etc. Reframing that we under that the point of typing is to convey information. The words we use don’t matter so long as the idea is understood. Building up the identity of being a clear communicator forms systems and thus feedback loops that inform your procedures and their output. Take this example from Thinking in Numbers by Daniel Tammet: "When I discussed the ways in which we could think about the number fifty-six, I borrowed this feature of proverbs and put the sum's answer at the start. Saying, "Fifty-six equals seven times eight" lends emphasis where it is needed most: not on the seven or the eight, but on what they produce." Our identity as a clear communicator (read: our procedure) has taken this feedback and updated our loop, our procedure, to account for this fact. After reframing goals/identities it is now clear that goals fit closer to declarative thinking. Just as a for loop compiles to some assembly a goal is made up of smaller steps. A procedure however is made up of goals (which, of course, contain smaller steps). One might ask doesn't that sound just like a goal again? A procedure separates itself because goals change. Context is taken into account and a procedure adapts and changes. Back to our example of identifying as a clear communicator, explaining the same concept to two different people shouldn't look the same. Where it would if your goal was just to convey some topic, i.e. hitting all the same talking points. Instead, you acknowledge the context that each person exists in and explain according to that. A clear communicator wouldn't use the same examples explaining something to a carpenter vs an engineer. I actually would like to turn this into an article so I'll follow up if I do so.

The dude forgot to ask "how questions", and then, when we realised, he made a big fuss about it. And a video.

Very interesting perspective. I've also found that much of the advice by the study gurus (without a negative connotation, really, they're awesome) lends itself well to conceptual understanding but is more difficult to apply for procedural skills. It also leaves us without a clear framework to apply when learning topics like math or programming, I think that's the reason why so many comments under those videos are questions "but how to apply this for math?!". In my own experience, my conceptual understanding in these topics has definitely increased by a lot - and I think it's always worth to start there (just not excessively) when learning a new topic in math for example - but procedurally it's more of a blackbox, e.g. I know I'll get better by solving math problems or programming some project, but the skill growth here feels more incidental than 'designed' if you know what I mean.

Please give one time purchase option , please man

Did you go to Georgia Tech?

Bro, because the app is too good 👍, i am already in paid version 😊. I have request for 3 things below. 1) Proper icloud sync instead of manual sync for apple devices. ipads, macbooks. 2) Have the same APP in mac, so that we can study those in our laptop as well. 3) lastly , in apple pencil drawing in ipad, please add a feature of proper shapes for - circle, square, rectangle etc. Right now we have that option only for a straight line. Thats all from my request. Thank you for this great infinite canvas. Its very helpful for my studies 🙏 and deep thinking.

nothing for android?

Yeah I noticed also that having a project with goal will leads to order control in learning, both procedural and declarative.

I am an engineer working in maintenance for mining equipment and block production in Mexico. I’ve watched the same channels and tried applying the same techniques without seeing results. It’s interesting to see the approach of another engineer in a different country to the same problem and how it compares to other disciplines. Greetings, excellent video!

Appreciate the insights! BTW a request : Could you please release a windows or even android version of the software

I would be pleased if we could draw shapes like circle, rectangle, square, star, polygons etc. with the same ease as we can draw a straight line in the App. However, whatever features it has, I really like the App. Thanks for the App.

Sorry for spamming your comments. I'm on a discord break right now, but I'll be back to troll / annoy you there in a couple weeks :)

Another possible feature is "ink replay" and audio recordings. Ink replay is actually way better than I thought it was (I use it for memory palaces even), and I find myself now constantly coming up with songs or mini-lectures to help explain or summarize my maps / mnemonics in case I forget (memory version of inception)

Oh, I actually did have a cool feature idea. Have a placeable button / symbol that when you tap it zooms in, letting you draw supplemental detailed notes, mnemonics, etc to that very specific region / node. Right now I just draw in a specific shape that is a signal to me that there is info there and for me to zoom in manually.

I don't have any grand feature requests. I think you should play into more of the metacognition templates / tracker aspects as those are very unique. I would definitely like folders for the bookmarks, because I have delusions of importing my entire OneNote (yes, I know) and dumping it into a single canvas like a madman. I'd also play around with Recall features, like redrawing the map from memory, or having "tape" that you can place over nodes (occlusion) to force yourself to remember. And for this type of stuff to be integrated into the aforementioned templates / trackers

T_T this is why I'm glad I already paid for the year. Now I can finally use the app again <3!

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Are there any good mindmapping apps for Android?

It’s very interesting to watch your videos I’m curious about how you would build mental maps for subjects that are known to be memorisation heavy like law or psychology Of course it also depends on the e am type

I came I liked. Well explained and resonates immediately

Bro can u provide a system on how to approach the subject so that i can retain information efficiently? Like step by step and last step maybe spaced repition

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Some criticism:Some memes and movie clips feels out of place

This is such a good perspective about blooms. I am really really impressed right now.

Truly a summit level technique mastery. Even though, I do for the most part understand and get your method of thinking, It's not possible for me to internalize and attempt it yet.

Ideal structure includes: A target goal the student must reach + a pool of uncommented resources. The student must interact with the pool enough to find the answer to the puzzle to reach the provided solution. The issue is that the solution can be Googled and/or is plainly written didactically in the text. And in true scenarios, the student may come to 9 plausible yet incorrect solutions, with only the one being correct. On standardized exams, the student will only be rewarded for 1/10 of their progress, but in reality this will be reflected as all or nothing. So in reality we are training two kinds of students: investigators vs recallers. Obviously we want our physicians to be recallers, and our scientists to be investigators. So that begs the question: why do subject our physicians to half a decade of non-pertinent education?

This is so interesting! Eastern countries, most notably, force their students to "struggle" with answering problems in math that have not been explained yet. I personally feel this is only 50/50 effective; sometimes, the previous knowledge does have enough scaffolding to lead into the subsequent topic, but the other half I feel that it is generally just Priming and 'oh shit you failed' motivation for learning the next topic. In a vacuum however, I feel that tutoring and ZPD will always come out on top.

Great! I'm also creating a model similar to yours. thanks for sharing!

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on the contrary, pretty much everything is procedural. Math especially declarative, since it is entirely made up and arbitrary. This is why we teach it in steps, because there is no way to intuit the answers to something. Chemistry / Biology on the other hand, must be derived experimentally and observationally. It is all interconnected and intuitive--procedural. We cannot simply create a reaction and will it into existence the same way we can with math.

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Please do one for declarative subjects like medicine :)

The focus question + most of sungs ideas appeals to me the most. I have found the major problem with his method as I've practiced it is getting the right scope, and he doesn't speak much about the possibility for different perspectives about the same topic. For example, imagine history where we could look at the peloponnesian war from the perspective of democratic decision-making vs economics vs military. If you try to include different perspectives it becomes very hierarchical and unweildly. Yes we could spoke off all the events 3 times and then try to connect things, but it seems to me it would be much more cohesive to actually take these as separate maps. His advice has kind of led me to try too hard to have single map for a whole topic, or even subject, where I try to iterate towards some ideal representation. I think using focus questions I can more easily build multiple mind maps, it feels more natural. What is your latest experience?

I loved this video, I've wanted to see a critical video on the GRINDE method for a while and did not disappoint. I've been watching Justin fro a few weeks on it and have already noticed that the deeper processing of his method is not only more effective but much more fulfilling to learn. The pointers on how to improve (and personalize) it were MASSIVELY appreciated!

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Great video Bro 👌 as always. And the app is superb, i am using it daily. In future , please do add quick shapes of -> circles, squares, traingles . At the moment we have only for a line. Also sync with macbook would be really Great 🙏. You doing a very good job , appreciate it 🙏

Hi ! Love your content ! Interested in collab? :)

all 3 a good, different use cases for each..... ps can we get iCloud sync in ahmni app please?

thank you, nice to see a third POV. The only other sources of reliable info regarding mindmaps is Archer Newton & Cajun Koi, glad you elaborated on the historical background and nuances to the technique.

Ma man you must keep going on this thing, all of ur vid is cool bruhh keep going brooo🔥🔥🔥

ykw i really think you guys need to work on your promotion of the app and getting people to know you guys. you app is literally perfect for me ( well i also hope there is pdf import and export) but hands down so much easier and better then one note ive been using for a while, i also use mindmaps and this is the perfect app for me to sketch out my ideas and make it a extension of my mind. but i think you guys really need to partner up with influncers or anybody who will give you visibility for this app! good job guys!