Summary - engineer vs big pharma is the equivalent of David vs Goliath. Good to see our David also has a slingshot and a good aim. Nice work Dave. Thanks for your persistence and determination. 👍
Love the analogy! We know that David defeated Goliath…but, was he expected to win? Here’s an interesting take on the story ruclips.net/video/ziGD7vQOwl8/видео.htmlsi=1DOmVsB7ndeTs9tq
My memory isn’t what it was, and I haven’t fact-checked it, but I think I remember Ivor Cummins quoting The Framingham Study saying that CVD risk doesn’t increase until LDL hits 7.8mmol and, even then, only if accompanied by HDL of under 0.8. This work reinforces that. The arbitrary reduction in LDL targets over the years is despicable and unnecessary.
The reduction of LDL targets reflects the evidence from numerous trials showing significant reductions in major adverse cardiovascular events with cholesterol lowering through diet/lifestyle/drugs. This is hardly either despicable or unnecessary. It also reflects the gradual realisation that 'normal' isn't always the same thing as 'optimal'.
This is awesome news! This paper will change the world after a few years of suppression and negative pushback from certain groups. Eventually the truth will get to the masses after the swift beat down I see coming. Thanks so much for your work on this. I will be staying on my carnivore lifestyle!
Thank you Dave Feldman!!! A few minutes after watching this I started crying for joy. Three years on meat only diet out of necessity. I am very lean and all my labs changed just as predicted by your model. This is extremely good news as I can’t eat anything from a plant without feeling awful for days. You have changed my life and those of countless others. Look forward to seeing what you have planned next, and helping to support it.
Hi, I went low-carb in 2019 and watched my LDL Skyrocket. I am 58 years old and always had normal to low LDL until going low-carb. Over that time I have gone more strict with low-carb- going from very low-carb to essentially no carb (now doing lion diet). I had a calcium score done on December 1 and it came back zero. Going into it I thought I would have at least some plaque, though I have always been athletic and active, i’ve definitely slowed down over the past decade after a series of shoulder surgeries back in 2014/2015 my main form of exercise has been primarily walking just recently, over the past three months started lifting light weights a couple times a week. So I was somewhat surprised that I would have all zeros especially in my late 50’s especially after hearing about autopsies of both Vietnam era and Iraq soldiers, showing heavy plaque build-up in soldiers in their early adult years (late teens to early 20s).
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Dave!!! You and your team have done incredible work. I'm a past heart attack victim who is now a LMHR after going zero carb and I feel incredible. I can't wait for the studies that result from this information.
Wonderful work. Thank you so much for what you do - it’s very reassuring for those of us that have to deal with doctors’ ignorance on this matter. It’s also nice to see mmol/L on the slides - we’re not all American :)
Dave, I recall sitting in Carl's front yard, about midnight after a VIP event discussing crowd sourced research and how it could be done. I am impressed beyond belief how far that conversation went. Kudos my friend.
Good on them for doing this, a couple notes however: *1. 4.7 years is not long enough to see plaque development for a multidecadal disease.* *2. The mean LDL-C is 123 mg/dL for the second group, that is still above recommended levels in conventional medicine. The study should've compared to those with LDL-Cs less than 100 mg/dL.*
@_RumpledForeskin 1. It is long enough to establish LDL levels above 123 mg/dL are not a meaningful factor in causing atherosclerosis in LMHRs on a strict keto diet. Pretty narrowly defined (and rare) test group, but it does seem to demonstrate that claim. Now it needs to be expanded and reproduced by others for it to gain confidence it wasn't a one-off result. 2. True and both groups still grew plaque. 3. I see no all-cause mortality results, perhaps because the groups were small, not elderly, in good health and this was for only 4.7 years duration. But there are nutritional controversies beyond LDL when it comes to strict keto diets. There may be other non-atherosclerotic all-cause mortality risks inherent to strict keto that arise over much longer periods of time. The whole point is to live a longer, healthy life. Getting rid of one risk factor simply to unknowingly adopt another would defeat the purpose.
This is brilliant, doing my part by posting a comment on the latest video of every nutrition influencer I can find, let's make sure people are aware of these findings !
Great job Dave! Congratulations on all your work. I've read your work since about 2015 or 2016 and from that point til now, your work has grown by leaps and bounds!
Dave Feldman is, without doubt, one of the most interesting people that I interact with on You Tube; thank you - keep posting your life-affirming discoveries.
If I may ask, how have you avoided your doctor trying to foist a statin onto you? I’m a new carnivore (7 months in), and I anticipate my doc may try to prescribe a statin for me at my next bloodwork results. I follow this subject with great interest too! I’m a big fan of Dr. Ken Berry. 🙏
@@susangrande8142I ignored the prescription when I was young. In my older (wiser) years I shared my research with my Doctor and when he still wasn't convinced I asked for a CAC. He's left me alone since.
@@tserevenadlast 4 years 18/6 keto as a baseline. Unfortunately I only have full lipid history for past decade or so. My bloods from 30 years back only included "good" & "bad" cholesterol so unfortunately I don't have the full picture that far back. I was also lean then, training hard for brown belt grading at the time of my first very elevated LDL. My diet varied over the years though I generally tried to eat real food, with some excursions into SAD especially when stressed out on challenging work projects.
Thank you Dave, Dr. Mudoff, and all individuals involved with this study. A simple thank you seems hardly adequate. I look forward to seeing where the data takes us in the next one to two years.
Absolutely amazing research. I remember sitting in my drs office reviewing my (Lmhr) cholesterol data with some of your hypothesis. Thank you for all that u do. It has directly impacted me.
I remember attempting to review Dave’s work with my cardiologist. He would have nothing to do with it and suggested I become vegan. I don’t see that doc or any cardiologist any longer. I’m LMHR!!
Dave, Thank you so much for your efforts! I've been following you and the LMHR study/info/seminars for awhile now and just reached one year on low carb, with trending LMHR lab results at the 10-month period. I hope to be a part of the next study. This information gives me reassurance that the wellness that I am experiencing on Carnivore is truly beneficial. Thank you, again!
Thank you for your dedication and honesty on the LDL and risk in LMHRs. Because of people like I held off the use of statins which my doctor keeps prescribing because my LDL jumped to the 250s when all other health indicators such as weight reduction, blood pressure, stamina, were looking fantastic. It did not make sense so and I refused to take the statins. I took two CAC tests in the last three years and got scores of zero. I understand there could still be soft plaque-this study somewhat alleviates some of my concerns. Thank you.
Clean carnivore is proper human behaviour. Well done - We have advanced. I look forward to the Ancel Keys Medical School teaching this new information....
New information that 1 in 1000 people with specific traits and low BMI have not experienced progression of heart disease in a short period? How is that some revelation and how will it help the average person decide on what diet is healthy to them? Double heart disease events recorded in another study on low carb on not some specific LMHR, how does this study refute any of that?
Thanks for your hard work. Awesome outcome and great information. I started Keto 5 years ago and a LMHR. Just had a CAC and echocardiogram. My CAC was 260 no major blockage. I however came to eating a keto diet for uncomfortable inflammation and pain. Was athletic until my early thirties and my health spiraled out of control for 15 years until strict low carb. I are high carb and a lot of seed oils. I also was a sugar addict. I am waiting for the final results of the LMHR study for those who had plaque to see progression. But for me my CAC score has made me more focused on keeping my blood sugar low. I slipped up a little this year. Back on track and eating super strict low carb keto with meal timing.
Congratulations Dave! At first to be honest, I was disappointed that the lmhr wasn't significantly better off than control, but then I see how closely matched the controls are - right down to their blood pressure and, hscrp, and a healthy hdl to trig ratio. The biggest difference I was was BMI, it looked like it barely put the Miami cohort into the overweight category. Also, so many of the Miami heart group were on lipid meds, you would think that would be quite helpful for their scores!? and yet there was no statistical difference. LMHR's rejoice! And get your cac scans people
Thank you for sharing this information and talking about it so that anyone can understand it. It takes a lot of courage to ask questions where others won't but to gather data to try to answer those questions is even harder. It's inspirational to see everyone who contributed to this study working towards obtaining data that well undoubtedly help humanity as a whole and lead to a lot less unnecessary suffering.
Thanks, Dave, for your perseverance and dedicated pursuit of understanding the atherosclerotic risk from sustained high LDL-C in those who are metabolically healthy. Compelling baseline comparison data that, in the very least, should spark questions among lipidologists and cardiologists.
Low carb works. It just does. The adverse effects of insulin resistance just can’t be ignored. And keto is the perfect antidote to all these metabolic syndromes.
My blood test came out exactly like the triad, having been eating low carb and stay very active and lean. I was puzzled and tried to find a good explanation till I found your research. Thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this fascinating research. Will be sharing this with my providers. I feel very fortunate and am so happy for you!
Bravo, Dave! Fantastic work from you and Nick and your team! So happy for you this has come to fruition to this point and will keep following. I am now also obsessed! I know you are so fulfilled to come to this point and especially gaining this knowledge regarding your own triad results. THANK YOU! Will be donating!
Congrats, Dave! This must feel so good to get such exciting data after such a long-term effort. I'd like to cover this in my next video (briefly) about LDL-chol/apo B and ASCVD, because it's quite noteworthy. Question: do you have historical data of the keto particpants of their LDL-chol levels for the 4+ years they were following the keto diet? How about apo B levels? Is it fair to say that the difference in apo B is a lot smaller than that of LDL-chol? Congrats, again! I am hoping this will give you a boost, also in terms of funding, to continue this line of work. The longitudinal data should prove highly informative! Cheers Mario
Dave, typically breakthroughs are made by outsiders. We are in a failed age of experts, who have shown us that their inside the box thinking is the opposite of progress.
Excellent! Thanks for all your efforts and persistence. I'm classical LMHR at 81 years old. Changing to new primary-physician to hopefully do some tests on me. Anxious to see what we learn.
I have been following a Keto/Ketovore diet for the past 4 years. According to my total Cholesterol and LDL cholesterol has been high for the past few years. Would my last two results put me in the LMHR category? I'm 5'6" at 168 pounds with a lean muscular build. Below are my last two test from the VA and my regular health care provider. My last few test have been similar. I feel much better on a keto diet and even better when I'm on strict carnivore. Thanks in advance for your input. July 2023: Total cholesterol: 474 LDL: 357 HDL: 43 Triglycerides: 118 September 2023 Total cholesterol: 455 LDL: 369 (VLDL: 41) HDL: 45 Triglycerides: 185 Also I have recently been referred to a cardiologist to take a further look and my echocardiogram was normal and my blood pressure has never been high. I will be getting a calcium score as a follow up. I'm 45 years old, forgot to mention.
Your HDL is too low and your trig's too high to group you as a true LMHR. Definitely do a CAC to check your arteries. I had a somewhat similar experience that my trigs didn't go as low as others on a keto diet and found that adding 3 servings of fatty fish (salmon, mackerel and sardines) to my weekly diet helped to finally lower my trigs. It seems that Omega-3 fat is very important for some people to control their trigs. Another thing when checking your trigs is to make sure that you fast for 12-14 hrs before you have your blood drawn so that trigs are not artificially high due to the effect of your last meal
Thankyou for this. Your boots on the ground approach is inspirational. Science without agenda or financial incentive. You’re right, this IS just the beginning, but talk about hitting the ground running!
Now I have to share this information with my 80+ parents who refuse to give up their highly processed bread with jam, and switch to just having eggs for breakfast. It's hard to break habit.
Awesome results! I look forward to the interview you and Nick will be doing with Dr Shawn Baker tomorrow! I think it is time for all to stop calling LDL and HDL "cholesterol" as though they were types of cholesterol instead of carriers of it. Malcolm Kendrick says "You wouldn't call a car a person because it carries people around". It is time to stop perpetuating this misunderstanding.
I wonder how these two data sets would compare for not just the calcium score, but other health markers that LDL levels would affect.. Dementia.. vit D production etc
I praise The Lord He lead me to the keto / carnivore space after my CABG 3x five years ago, keep up the good work. Whatever mainstream medicine tells us we know is wrong much of the time.
Amazing work that Dave and his team have done, 4+ years on the Ketogenic diet LDL 3.6 mmol/ High HDL low Trigs. I recently discovered that I have a calcium score of 277 and it has been going through my mind that it may be the ketogenic diet even though I felt the best I have ever felt so I did some research and had a test for Lp(a) and discovered that I have a score of 277nmol/L so this is the smoking gun not the diet. Now I am unsure which way to go as all the information I can find suggests lowering my LDL !
So essentially if you are LMHR, LDL is not an issue but conversely if you are not LMHR, then work to get your LDL down. I have high LDL but also low HDL (40-ish mg/dl) on keto but also CAC >200.
Bravo! Next to debunk: -climate lie -covid insanity -islam mass migration to europe is a good thing -veganism -geopolitics -men - women relationships Cheers from germany
Exactly! One down, several to go! We already have quite a few studies demonstrating masks and lockdowns had no effect in reducing COVID transmission. Maybe the tide is turning!
@@dsonyay Great way of demonstrating you have nothing to add to the discussion because you are mentally at the level of 7, but needed to say something anyway.
Been looking forward to this info, thank you! Do you have information on the group's ApoB levels? I saw everything else but these levels. I would imagine many reviewers will be looking for these metrics.
Summary - engineer vs big pharma is the equivalent of David vs Goliath. Good to see our David also has a slingshot and a good aim. Nice work Dave. Thanks for your persistence and determination. 👍
Fantastic analogy!!!
How many smooth stones will he need?
Pin this comment^!
Love the analogy!
We know that David defeated Goliath…but, was he expected to win? Here’s an interesting take on the story
ruclips.net/video/ziGD7vQOwl8/видео.htmlsi=1DOmVsB7ndeTs9tq
Damn. Well said!
This needs to be on every news outlet right now!!
Amazing job Dave and the team.
The world needs more obsessed engineers.
My memory isn’t what it was, and I haven’t fact-checked it, but I think I remember Ivor Cummins quoting The Framingham Study saying that CVD risk doesn’t increase until LDL hits 7.8mmol and, even then, only if accompanied by HDL of under 0.8. This work reinforces that. The arbitrary reduction in LDL targets over the years is despicable and unnecessary.
Another obsessed engineer!
@@christopherstewart9874
The are only kind of engineers worth their salt.
Which could also indicate that low HDL is bad and LDL isn’t really important, unless it become very low.
The reduction of LDL targets reflects the evidence from numerous trials showing significant reductions in major adverse cardiovascular events with cholesterol lowering through diet/lifestyle/drugs. This is hardly either despicable or unnecessary. It also reflects the gradual realisation that 'normal' isn't always the same thing as 'optimal'.
@@tomgoff7887 The question is, what else changed along with the LDL level, because it ain't the LDL that's doing it. It's just along for the ride
This is awesome news! This paper will change the world after a few years of suppression and negative pushback from certain groups. Eventually the truth will get to the masses after the swift beat down I see coming. Thanks so much for your work on this. I will be staying on my carnivore lifestyle!
Thank you Dave Feldman!!! A few minutes after watching this I started crying for joy. Three years on meat only diet out of necessity. I am very lean and all my labs changed just as predicted by your model. This is extremely good news as I can’t eat anything from a plant without feeling awful for days. You have changed my life and those of countless others. Look forward to seeing what you have planned next, and helping to support it.
Dave, you are the epitome of what a scientist is. I am truly in awe of your conduct through all these years. Congratulations and thank you!
Ditto
Hi, I went low-carb in 2019 and watched my LDL Skyrocket. I am 58 years old and always had normal to low LDL until going low-carb. Over that time I have gone more strict with low-carb- going from very low-carb to essentially no carb (now doing lion diet).
I had a calcium score done on December 1 and it came back zero. Going into it I thought I would have at least some plaque, though I have always been athletic and active, i’ve definitely slowed down over the past decade after a series of shoulder surgeries back in 2014/2015 my main form of exercise has been primarily walking just recently, over the past three months started lifting light weights a couple times a week. So I was somewhat surprised that I would have all zeros especially in my late 50’s especially after hearing about autopsies of both Vietnam era and Iraq soldiers, showing heavy plaque build-up in soldiers in their early adult years (late teens to early 20s).
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You, Dave!!! You and your team have done incredible work. I'm a past heart attack victim who is now a LMHR after going zero carb and I feel incredible. I can't wait for the studies that result from this information.
Wonderful work. Thank you so much for what you do - it’s very reassuring for those of us that have to deal with doctors’ ignorance on this matter. It’s also nice to see mmol/L on the slides - we’re not all American :)
Dave, I recall sitting in Carl's front yard, about midnight after a VIP event discussing crowd sourced research and how it could be done. I am impressed beyond belief how far that conversation went. Kudos my friend.
Thankyou Dave. As a LMHR with a doctor that wants to put me on statins, I am much relieved.
Good on them for doing this, a couple notes however:
*1. 4.7 years is not long enough to see plaque development for a multidecadal disease.*
*2. The mean LDL-C is 123 mg/dL for the second group, that is still above recommended levels in conventional medicine. The study should've compared to those with LDL-Cs less than 100 mg/dL.*
@_RumpledForeskin 1. It is long enough to establish LDL levels above 123 mg/dL are not a meaningful factor in causing atherosclerosis in LMHRs on a strict keto diet. Pretty narrowly defined (and rare) test group, but it does seem to demonstrate that claim. Now it needs to be expanded and reproduced by others for it to gain confidence it wasn't a one-off result.
2. True and both groups still grew plaque.
3. I see no all-cause mortality results, perhaps because the groups were small, not elderly, in good health and this was for only 4.7 years duration. But there are nutritional controversies beyond LDL when it comes to strict keto diets. There may be other non-atherosclerotic all-cause mortality risks inherent to strict keto that arise over much longer periods of time. The whole point is to live a longer, healthy life. Getting rid of one risk factor simply to unknowingly adopt another would defeat the purpose.
Thank you for all you are doing. Much appreciation from all us LMHR people. It means a great deal to us. Please keep up your good work. 👍
This is brilliant, doing my part by posting a comment on the latest video of every nutrition influencer I can find, let's make sure people are aware of these findings !
Great job Dave! Congratulations on all your work. I've read your work since about 2015 or 2016 and from that point til now, your work has grown by leaps and bounds!
Dave Feldman is, without doubt, one of the most interesting people that I interact with on You Tube; thank you - keep posting your life-affirming discoveries.
Congratulations Dave. I’ve been an enthusiastic follower since 2018. Very happy for you, Nick and all the low carb community.
I was looking forward to this 🏆🥇
Well done Dave, I follow this with great interest since I am also LMHR (high LDL for more than 30 years) with CAC 0 at almost 60yo.
If I may ask, how have you avoided your doctor trying to foist a statin onto you? I’m a new carnivore (7 months in), and I anticipate my doc may try to prescribe a statin for me at my next bloodwork results. I follow this subject with great interest too! I’m a big fan of Dr. Ken Berry. 🙏
Do you have, and always had, the lipid triad equating to LMHR? What has been your WOE over those 30 years?
@@susangrande8142I ignored the prescription when I was young. In my older (wiser) years I shared my research with my Doctor and when he still wasn't convinced I asked for a CAC. He's left me alone since.
@@tserevenadlast 4 years 18/6 keto as a baseline. Unfortunately I only have full lipid history for past decade or so. My bloods from 30 years back only included "good" & "bad" cholesterol so unfortunately I don't have the full picture that far back. I was also lean then, training hard for brown belt grading at the time of my first very elevated LDL. My diet varied over the years though I generally tried to eat real food, with some excursions into SAD especially when stressed out on challenging work projects.
Thank you, Dave Feldman! The conversation begins.
Thank you Dave, Dr. Mudoff, and all individuals involved with this study. A simple thank you seems hardly adequate. I look forward to seeing where the data takes us in the next one to two years.
Absolutely amazing research. I remember sitting in my drs office reviewing my (Lmhr) cholesterol data with some of your hypothesis. Thank you for all that u do. It has directly impacted me.
I remember attempting to review Dave’s work with my cardiologist. He would have nothing to do with it and suggested I become vegan. I don’t see that doc or any cardiologist any longer. I’m LMHR!!
This is awesome!! Great work to you and your team Dave 🎉
Wow, thanks for doing this study. I wish we could get more honest studies not funded by the corrupt food industry.
Dave,
Thank you so much for your efforts! I've been following you and the LMHR study/info/seminars for awhile now and just reached one year on low carb, with trending LMHR lab results at the 10-month period. I hope to be a part of the next study. This information gives me reassurance that the wellness that I am experiencing on Carnivore is truly beneficial. Thank you, again!
Congratulations and thank you so much!
Thank you for your dedication and honesty on the LDL and risk in LMHRs. Because of people like I held off the use of statins which my doctor keeps prescribing because my LDL jumped to the 250s when all other health indicators such as weight reduction, blood pressure, stamina, were looking fantastic. It did not make sense so and I refused to take the statins. I took two CAC tests in the last three years and got scores of zero. I understand there could still be soft plaque-this study somewhat alleviates some of my concerns. Thank you.
Congratulations! Impressive results! 👍 ☕
Clean carnivore is proper human behaviour.
Well done - We have advanced. I look forward to the Ancel Keys Medical School teaching this new information....
New information that 1 in 1000 people with specific traits and low BMI have not experienced progression of heart disease in a short period? How is that some revelation and how will it help the average person decide on what diet is healthy to them? Double heart disease events recorded in another study on low carb on not some specific LMHR, how does this study refute any of that?
@@cyberfunk3793eat your sugar and good luck.
@@cyberfunk3793Eat a proper human diet and join us in being "1 in a 1000" 👍🥩💪
❤ Shouldn't say that I (and most of us here) was expecting this... Great job Dave!
Fantastic work, looking forward to further studies!
Thanks for your hard work. Awesome outcome and great information. I started Keto 5 years ago and a LMHR. Just had a CAC and echocardiogram. My CAC was 260 no major blockage. I however came to eating a keto diet for uncomfortable inflammation and pain. Was athletic until my early thirties and my health spiraled out of control for 15 years until strict low carb. I are high carb and a lot of seed oils. I also was a sugar addict. I am waiting for the final results of the LMHR study for those who had plaque to see progression. But for me my CAC score has made me more focused on keeping my blood sugar low. I slipped up a little this year. Back on track and eating super strict low carb keto with meal timing.
Thank you, Dave, for all your hard work, and the work of your team, on this important topic. I say this as a suspected LMHR myself.
Well done Dave and thank you, from all of us. May God continue to bless your good work. 🙏🙏🎇
Congratulations Dave! At first to be honest, I was disappointed that the lmhr wasn't significantly better off than control, but then I see how closely matched the controls are - right down to their blood pressure and, hscrp, and a healthy hdl to trig ratio. The biggest difference I was was BMI, it looked like it barely put the Miami cohort into the overweight category. Also, so many of the Miami heart group were on lipid meds, you would think that would be quite helpful for their scores!? and yet there was no statistical difference. LMHR's rejoice! And get your cac scans people
Youv deserve a medal Dave. Along with a good few others in the low carb, keto n carnivore space!! ❤
Thank you for sharing this information and talking about it so that anyone can understand it. It takes a lot of courage to ask questions where others won't but to gather data to try to answer those questions is even harder. It's inspirational to see everyone who contributed to this study working towards obtaining data that well undoubtedly help humanity as a whole and lead to a lot less unnecessary suffering.
Thanks, Dave, for your perseverance and dedicated pursuit of understanding the atherosclerotic risk from sustained high LDL-C in those who are metabolically healthy. Compelling baseline comparison data that, in the very least, should spark questions among lipidologists and cardiologists.
Low carb works. It just does. The adverse effects of insulin resistance just can’t be ignored. And keto is the perfect antidote to all these metabolic syndromes.
It’s a great study because it leaves us with so many more questions to pursue. Well done.
Dave Felman and Dr Norwitz are GENIUS'
Bloody brilliant! Congratulations!
My blood test came out exactly like the triad, having been eating low carb and stay very active and lean. I was puzzled and tried to find a good explanation till I found your research. Thank you.
Thank you for the opportunity to be a part of this fascinating research. Will be sharing this with my providers. I feel very fortunate and am so happy for you!
Thank you Dave. God bless your work.
Bravo, Dave! Fantastic work from you and Nick and your team! So happy for you this has come to fruition to this point and will keep following. I am now also obsessed! I know you are so fulfilled to come to this point and especially gaining this knowledge regarding your own triad results. THANK YOU! Will be donating!
Thank you Dave and team!
Congrats for this first result! Can't wait for the full study to drop.
Great job, Dave.
Congrats, Dave! This must feel so good to get such exciting data after such a long-term effort.
I'd like to cover this in my next video (briefly) about LDL-chol/apo B and ASCVD, because it's quite noteworthy. Question: do you have historical data of the keto particpants of their LDL-chol levels for the 4+ years they were following the keto diet? How about apo B levels? Is it fair to say that the difference in apo B is a lot smaller than that of LDL-chol?
Congrats, again! I am hoping this will give you a boost, also in terms of funding, to continue this line of work. The longitudinal data should prove highly informative!
Cheers
Mario
Congratulations and thank you!
Thanks for all you have been doing since you entered this path! My family and friends insist that my health is terrible bcs of LDL, and LDL only🙄
I'm so so soooo happy to hear this!
Note also the lack of correlation between LDL and CAC score in the Miami health group.
Dave, Thank you for the good work.
Dave, typically breakthroughs are made by outsiders. We are in a failed age of experts, who have shown us that their inside the box thinking is the opposite of progress.
When Shawn Baker lost his job at the hospital, tens of thousands of us benefitted 👍
Great job Dave! I've been following you for years. It's great to all your hard work starting to pay off. Congrats to you and the team!
Excellent! Thanks for all your efforts and persistence. I'm classical LMHR at 81 years old. Changing to new primary-physician to hopefully do some tests on me. Anxious to see what we learn.
Great to see this kind of information being laid out supporting my diet changes!
Thank you for being so persistent! God Bless🙏
I have been following a Keto/Ketovore diet for the past 4 years. According to my total Cholesterol and LDL cholesterol has been high for the past few years. Would my last two results put me in the LMHR category? I'm 5'6" at 168 pounds with a lean muscular build. Below are my last two test from the VA and my regular health care provider. My last few test have been similar. I feel much better on a keto diet and even better when I'm on strict carnivore. Thanks in advance for your input.
July 2023:
Total cholesterol: 474
LDL: 357
HDL: 43
Triglycerides: 118
September 2023
Total cholesterol: 455
LDL: 369 (VLDL: 41)
HDL: 45
Triglycerides: 185
Also I have recently been referred to a cardiologist to take a further look and my echocardiogram was normal and my blood pressure has never been high. I will be getting a calcium score as a follow up.
I'm 45 years old, forgot to mention.
Your HDL is too low and your trig's too high to group you as a true LMHR. Definitely do a CAC to check your arteries. I had a somewhat similar experience that my trigs didn't go as low as others on a keto diet and found that adding 3 servings of fatty fish (salmon, mackerel and sardines) to my weekly diet helped to finally lower my trigs. It seems that Omega-3 fat is very important for some people to control their trigs. Another thing when checking your trigs is to make sure that you fast for 12-14 hrs before you have your blood drawn so that trigs are not artificially high due to the effect of your last meal
Thankyou for this. Your boots on the ground approach is inspirational. Science without agenda or financial incentive. You’re right, this IS just the beginning, but talk about hitting the ground running!
Congratulations Dave and team, thank you
Well done and well presented, Dave and team!
hey Doctor Eric
Thank you
One small step for man, one giant leap for mankind.
Incredible job Dave, Thank You.
Thanks Dave!🔥
Well done brother ! Happy trails 👍
Now I have to share this information with my 80+ parents who refuse to give up their highly processed bread with jam, and switch to just having eggs for breakfast. It's hard to break habit.
I hear you, I am preaching low carb (including keto and carnivore) to anyone I encounter. I have no one that cares or agrees!
grateful for your work Dr
You are a great human.
Hope Billionaires of the world will help support Citizens Science Foundation
THANK YOU!
Awesome results! I look forward to the interview you and Nick will be doing with Dr Shawn Baker tomorrow!
I think it is time for all to stop calling LDL and HDL "cholesterol" as though they were types of cholesterol instead of carriers of it. Malcolm Kendrick says "You wouldn't call a car a person because it carries people around". It is time to stop perpetuating this misunderstanding.
I wonder how these two data sets would compare for not just the calcium score, but other health markers that LDL levels would affect.. Dementia.. vit D production etc
Thanks dave. Good news for me.
Have a good holiday season.
Boom! Love this. Thanks for the hot off the press share
I praise The Lord He lead me to the keto / carnivore space after my CABG 3x five years ago, keep up the good work. Whatever mainstream medicine tells us we know is wrong much of the time.
WOW! just WOW! Fantastic statistical analyses. I feel a bit better now...................
Thanks for this. While it may be reassuring for those of us with similar metrics, convincing most Doctors will take a mountain more of research.
Thanks for the beginning of a great new analysis! BTW, Principal Investigator, not Principle.
Amazing work that Dave and his team have done, 4+ years on the Ketogenic diet LDL 3.6 mmol/ High HDL low Trigs. I recently discovered that I have a calcium score of 277 and it has been going through my mind that it may be the ketogenic diet even though I felt the best I have ever felt so I did some research and had a test for Lp(a) and discovered that I have a score of 277nmol/L so this is the smoking gun not the diet. Now I am unsure which way to go as all the information I can find suggests lowering my LDL !
@garyroach8624 I have read that niacin may be able to help reduce Lp(a).
I have heard that recently and I will look into it, thanks for your input.@@drott150
Well done!
Thanks much Dave!
Thanks for your continued hard work and innovative thinking.
Love that this has no large company pushing a product behind this research. Just plain old science.
So essentially if you are LMHR, LDL is not an issue but conversely if you are not LMHR, then work to get your LDL down. I have high LDL but also low HDL (40-ish mg/dl) on keto but also CAC >200.
Incredible Dave & team 💪💪❤️❤️
Great work Dave!👏
Thanks for the hard work.
Thank your hard work!!
Bravo!
Next to debunk:
-climate lie
-covid insanity
-islam mass migration to europe is a good thing
-veganism
-geopolitics
-men - women relationships
Cheers from germany
So you believe this study debunked something? That explains why you might be confused about a lot of things.
Omg- dude, you’re everywhere .. .. everyone, please welcome Debbie, Downer, representing the pharmaceutical industry.. thanks for being here Debbie.
@@cyberfunk3793High LDL causes heart disease? At a minimum, the study demonstrates you need some other causal mechanism in addition to high LDL.
Exactly! One down, several to go!
We already have quite a few studies demonstrating masks and lockdowns had no effect in reducing COVID transmission.
Maybe the tide is turning!
@@dsonyay Great way of demonstrating you have nothing to add to the discussion because you are mentally at the level of 7, but needed to say something anyway.
Thanks!
It takes 30 years of exposure to LDL. Fundamental error is the period of time of the study
Excellent! Though the naysayers will probably dismiss these results, so I wonder what their argument will be.
Been looking forward to this info, thank you! Do you have information on the group's ApoB levels? I saw everything else but these levels. I would imagine many reviewers will be looking for these metrics.
ApoB follows LDL.
Phenomenal work!!
no, thank _you!_
take a look at the introduction of processed seed oils into our food supply.