00:00 Hey Y'all! 00:52 Leave No Trace 03:18 Think before you pee 04:14 Water Sources 05:32 When you're walking 07:12 Music 08:39 Dogs 10:21 Shelters 14:16 Trail Magic etiquette 15:24 In trail towns 16:45 Hike Your Own Hike
Dixie this was done so eloquently. For people not familiar with the Trail it's helpful to gently give "The lay of the land". If you are on the trail long enough you come to know that you are always following someone who was there the day or week before and you get to observe what they left behind. As a AT-NOBO I was impressed how the trail culture became cleaner, friendlier, and much more respectful with each week. YOU simply have jump-started that process and we are all in your debt.
Homemade Wanderlust : I would advise you not always to pet all dogs. Now more and more people are having service dogs. Some of those people don’t need these dogs but for those who do need them then those dogs are dedicated to their owners. For example, an owner maybe prone to seizers or diabetic then that dog doesn’t need to distracted from his/her owner. Most all service dogs has a shirt saying service dog and even given permission by the owner can untrain and distract loose focus on the job the dog is trained for.
I suppose I'm too late to comment to get noticed, but I do wish Dix had mentioned: don't get egotistical or lecturing about equipment quality. Some hikers are poor and get what they can from Walmart.
Agreed, I work retail at an outdoor store, and even though I know what is best, I wouldn't dream of scolding a customer for not being able to buy top tier products. I just want them out there having a great time!
Something we don’t consider is that no one likes to be preached at. “You use that? You see this? It is the best thing ever because it was made by (name brand). Some folks turn equipment choices into holy mandates...
Some really good informative advice. One more you could add is; when you stop to take a break, eat lunch, etc., please move off to the side of the trail. I can't even count the number of times I've had to hike right thru the middle of group or around someone stopped in the middle of the trail.
Barone B it’s just inconsiderate to sit on the path it’s rude to expect everyone else to walk around you would you park your car in the middle of the road?
Dogs are banned in the backcountry of National Parks and I'm surprised at how some folks get upset when they're turned back at the boundary. Saw it at Donohue Pass when a ranger told a guy that he couldn't bring his two dogs into Yosemite. Rule of thumb, know what the laws are before you go, that guy threw such a fit he was arrested and they took his dogs too.
THIS. I went to go hiking with a friend who INSISTED she bring her dog. I asked so many times if she were sure it was allowed, as I faintly remember some places had rules against it. When we went to a swimming area for people she insisted again to bring her dog into the water and a lot of people were pissed, talking crap, etc about it. She threw a huge fit and got so butthurt about it. Her dog wouldn't behave on the trail, etc. Well on our way back out I noticed the sign that said no dogs allowed. She shouldn't have brought her dog to begin with. I don't understand how so many people can just show up not knowing what they're getting themselves into.
@@tenfourproductionsllc Unfortunately that doesn't fly back there. Dogs are prey to bears and mountain lions if they're smaller dogs or are possible predators themselves and people have been attacked by backpacker's pets. The Park Service doesn't want them back there. Bears love little dogs to death.
Love it, love love it. I was at Devils Tower and there was a fella feeding prarie/gopher dogs in plain view of a sign-Do Not .... A ranger pulled up and gave him a 75 fine he wasn't happy about. There is justice sometimes.
@@williambranham6249 UGH WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???! Reading that just makes me frustrated. Glad he got a fine. Confused he still threw a fit. I don't understand some folks! :(
As an older hiker (69 1/2 yrs) I have found that the younger hikers typically step aside (whether going up or down slope) for me. I am not as sure footed as I used to be and I really appreciate the fact that they are understanding enough to step aside and allow me to pass. Having said that when I am not walking and watching each step that I am taking, I will get out of the way for the younger hikers coming up or down hill. A big Thank You goes out to those polite younger hikers on the trail. God bless you all!
It's very interesting to watch this as a German hiker. Especially the part about letting people who are going uphill pass - in the German Alps it's typically the other way round. To me it makes more sense because 1. the walkers who are descending are usually faster, so the others don't have to wait as long and 2. the danger of slipping is higher on the descent, especially when you have to make way for someone else. Then again, mountains in the Alps are higher and most likely steeper than those on the AT, so "my" rule might be less reasonable on this trail. Thank you for giving me the chance to gain insights into a different hiking culture with this video and several of your older ones. I'm looking forward to visiting the US in a few years and maybe hike some sections of your beautiful trails... or even thru-hike one of them, if I'm able to arrange for a sabbatical :)
I'm glad you made this because I never really thought about it but my buddies all listen to some music. So when we hike we take a BT speaker with us but for now on will use earbuds...
I wish people would respect “hiker midnight” in hotels also. So many times I hear doors slamming & people shouting at 11pm, & 5am-7am when I’m on vacation. Nice video btw! I learned a lot.
The worst is in state campgrounds where there are RVs. They will stay up yakking until 2am. The RVs will run their AC and I've seen them even running generators all night.
One thing I see on the trail (more and more frequently) is folks who bring their dogs (no problem with that BTW) but haven't really done their due diligence on the trail as far as terrain and water crossings. We were on the Eagle Rock Loop (Arkansas) last October and helped another hiker get his dog across a fairly challenging water crossing with deep, rushing water that was too high for the dog to navigate. Folks just need to remember that being prepared means making sure you are prepared for what to do with your dog too. That one turned out fine because there were other hikers there to help. There are plenty of crossings like that out there, and you don't want to put yourself or your dog in unnecessary danger by trying to cross without assistance. Once we were all across, he pondered out loud about how he wouldn't have been able to do that without help. Just make sure you do your research before you go.
HYOH does not mean "I get to stop being mindful". There's a prevalent mindset in the hiker community that we're all sooo in touch with Nature. Cool. Then be in touch with Nature. Leave No Trace. No trace. That should, IMO, include noise and bad manners. It's not hard. Being a considerate hiker has made me be more aware of any environment I find myself in, whether it's the Trail, my neighborhood, a city street, or just being in public. Take the Trail with you everywhere. Great video, Dixie. Thanks for all the hard work.
I agree with you Mandy. The trail is no place for noise. I have even quit hiking in much of the North Georgia Mountains because of the Motorcycles. You can be on top of Blood Mountain and still hear Motorcycles noises coming up through the Valleys.
I love the slogan “Treat others the way THEY want to be treated.” We can’t use “Hike your own hike” as an excuse to do whatever we want on trail. Great video Dixie! Enjoyed it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
People who think that being courteous is "taking the fun out of everything" should realize that their "fun" takes the fun out for other people. Don't be a person who needs to do things that irritate others to have fun.
If you are talking about communal campsites. But If your "fun" is ruined by a passing speaker, perhaps you don't belong on the trail, or around people in general.
@@saxgoddess25 Then I question their rational for picking a known trail where many people could pass them instead of going out backpacking to a remote area that isn't widely used.
@@remyllebeau77 It's really not that hard to wear ear buds, head phones, or something of the sort. The moral of the story here is don't be a jerk. Rationalize it any way you want, putting your music on blast is being a jerk.
@@saxgoddess25 I have already addressed that. I agree if it is a communal camping site, if it is out in the woods and I'm alone as far as I know, there is nothing wrong with playing music on a speaker. Then it is you being the jerk and trying to control people when you have no right. Perish the thought that you are slightly discomforted for one minute while someone passes you. /s
Thanks for the dog etiquette. Once I came across a mom with a school age kid who was terrified of dogs and the kid was screaming and panicked when my (leashed) dog met them head on. It was really terrifying for the kid. I had to back out to a side trail to let them pass. I’m SO glad they didn’t meet an unleashed “friendly“ dog.
That's so nice of you. I am very scared of dogs and even though I don't scream anymore, I can definitely cry uncontrollably and/or have a full blown panic attack when a dog is jumping on me or running towards me. I would like to thank you for respecting the fear of others
Man, I HATE when people blare their music. I was out hiking one day, heard music, thought I might be getting close to the NSP campground, nope, It was a backpacker, headed my way with a BOOMBOX attached to his pack, blaring at full volume. Cmon, get some earphones. That's the one thing that's drives me up the wall, how inconsiderate!
Had the same thing on the Everest Base Camp Trek. Not just other hikers, but porters hauling stuff up into the mountains. Yeah, I understand that it's their country; but it doesn't help to improve the tourism that is the number one source of income along the trail.
yeah thats bullshit, if you have to walk around with a boombox blaring hip-hop or kenny chesney, you might wanna turn back around and go back to the city, because you are fuckin everyone elses experience up.
Great information, not only for the trail, but in all you do. Have respect for others, others properties, and yourself. Thanks for sharing this Dixie :)
Don't 'cool guy' other hikers when you pass. Say good morning, nod, smile, make eye contact. Don't feel the need to stop and make small talk for an hour, just acknowledge that your two humans crossing paths.
A lot of this just seems like common decency and respect ....I have been camping and had people playing music at 10 pm through the whole camp it’s just rude honestly
had to go and learn what this meant, seems legit! (for those like me: stick to the path so you don't cause damage even if path is harder, is what it means)
And not just for people who are allergic to or afraid of dogs. I've been straight up tripped by a dog who was sweet and really enthusiastic, but appeared right where my next step needed to go. It hurt like hell when I hit the rocks with my knees! Dogs don't know any better, but their humans should. Keep your dog and other humans safe by keeping your dog close and under command. Wildlife could hurt them, too. Thanks for bringing that up, Dixie. It's a tough one, as everyone gets defensive about how their dog is the *best* dog and couldn't possibly be scary/dangerous/in danger...
Great points as always. External speakers- leave them at home. Wear headphones- your music will sound better, you can play it louder and you won't bother anyone else. Dogs- keep yours on a leash and, no, I don't want your dog to meet my dog. Trash- pick up trash you see on the trail and pack it out... even if it's not yours.
I love this! I support all the suggestions you made! Think about the person behind you people...or next to you or in front of you. I think music, even someone with a guitar, is one of the most invasive things you can do to others out in the woods, but all of your points were on point Dixie!
As a budding backpacker, I appreciate these "newbie's guide" vids. Some are common sense/etiquette, but others are things those of us new to the hobby don't know yet!
LOL, first time hiker here. This should be played on repeat in every shuttle, bus and/or breakfast restaurant near the southern and northern terminus. Great upload!
Hi Dixie! Great video on a very important topic. One thing I'd add for safety is when you step aside to let the uphill hikers pass, make sure you step to the upslope side of the trail to wait. You don't want to pull aside and slip down a long slope to make room.
As someone returning to the trails after a 30+ year hiatus, I find your videos so helpful. Your trail presence and vibe in your videos are always appreciated.
A Good Day: When Dixie posts a new video. :) "Bright White Light" (with Dixie's accent.) "Drunker than Cooter Brown." Always something that makes me smile. Also love that no dog is safe around you.
i actually had a guy watch a whole episode of the Sopranos in a shelter on the AT...man.. that was so uncool...lots of cursing and gunfire as well as his personal commentary ...dont be that guy people..please..love your videos Dixie girl. happy trails
At any shelter on the AT, if it has cell service, most are glued to their phones, even after hiker midnight. If I were trail god, I would ban all cellphones except to trailheads.
Hello Dixie, thank you for sharing this informative video. Many hikers need to be educated regarding proper etiquette when in the outdoors. You did a fine job of presenting the information. Take care out there and be safe. 🤗
Excellent point around 13:50 about shelter hogs. The one time I've ever personally experienced extreme rudeness on the AT was at Springer Shelter when we walked up to the shelter to cook supper and the small group of a**wipes already there made it plain that we were not welcome, that they considered the shelter to be theirs for the night and they wanted us gone. It wasn't just dirty looks; they told us verbally. Rather than give them what they deserved, we simply left them to it and they have now become one of those stories we tell as a bad example. As we say around here, their mommas didn't raise 'em right.
you gave them what they wanted though which reinforced their bad behavior so they are likely to do it again. i would have been like "ok, if you want to be disrespectful, hog the shelter and make others hiking experience miserable, i can play that same game."
Another etiquette tip on trails shared with horseback riders: when riders are approaching you on a trail it is polite/safer to step off on the downhill side of the trail. This makes you look less opposing to the horses. They can be fearful of predators attacking from above. Just a little friendly tip.
The video she showed as a person carrying two hiking sticks with an unleashed dog. There is no way to effectively hike carrying two hiking poles and a dog leach.
wendell read you are making the assumption that all dogs are well trained? This last weekend I had a “well trained” experienced hiking dog growl and try to bite me. Because I was climbing over a downed tree, and the dog was confused. Luckily I know dogs, and I told the owner stay far away from me so I wouldn’t be deemed a threat. The dog was fine after I got away from the trail blockage, and the owner apologized. But he never realized that though I was using my pole to create distance with my left hand, my right hand was on my .38 in my pocket. That irresponsible owner created a very dangerous situation for me and the dog. No owner can truly be prepared for the situations or ways a dog perceives his surroundings. To presume so is shear arrogance. Follow the law, use a leash.
A lot of people are scared of dogs. I am. I really don't want a dog to jump on me or run towards me. That is common courtesy. Other people are dog persons. I respect that. I am not and I would like other people to respect that.
The yielding for horses on the trail is really important. Like GET OFF THE TRAIL. I and my husband (Both Thru Hikers from 1990) have hiked on shared-use trails and always move a distance off trail for horses. We once witnessed a hiker plow on by a horse and rider, never yielding or slowing down and the horse panicked. It was not pretty and only by the rider's best effort was the horse not injured. The hiker never looked back at the havoc he caused. We were livid for the rider and her mount. Ever since then, if there's a horse, we clear the way substantially, moving at least a dozen feet off the trail and waiting quietly.
I agree completely with you. I do not agree with mixed use human/horse trails because we now live in a "horseless" society and there is a lack of knowledge on our part on interacting with horses. I hike in SW Va. where there are plenty of mixed use trails. Hiking on a trail that is mostly horsey is a nightmare. MUD and MUCK. I realize I got a bit off topic but that's just me.
JackMax… Put trail registers (and Pens) back in the plastic sleeve and box where you got them and no, the box is not a receptacle for your candy wrappers...y'all (put that in for Dixie)
One of my favorite things about listening to you talk is how quick you are with stuff like 'cooter brown', etc. I loved it on your thru hikes when something would shock you and just anything would come out of your mouth...it was great entertainment. Hope you do another hike soon. Really enjoy the filming of those locations and the banter you share on your hikes!!
This could easily be so much longer but you kept it short and on point. They say the average listening concentration is 20 minutes so this is perfect. Good job Aaron & Dixie!
That’s interesting on the uphiller having the right of way. Growing up I was taught the person going downhill has the right of way because it’s more difficult for them to stop their decent. In essence a safety issue.
Seeing that I'm 73 and overweight, my through hikes will happen on the other side of the pearly gates...but I thoroughly enjoy your adventures, stories, and insights... which are truly impressive and amazing.
I had a new found interest in camping, but having to deal with other people along with even finding a legal and safe camp site is quickly discouraging me 😔
My first "trail-magic" encounter was back in 2010 on the PCT after slogging through Fuller Ridge. A little dirt road clearing had a couple of pickups, a picnic table with a giant cooler under it, and no people. The cooler had a piece of paper on it held down by a rock. Wow. Trail Magic. I've heard about this stuff before! The paper said: "Don't steal our stuff". nice. I went back there next year to the same spot with a hiking buddy and hosted EPIC trail magic for the hikers that dragged through all day: fresh watermelon, beer, soda, bread, butter, salads...
I agree. Dogs should be on leash. While I love dogs. I don’t want one to touch me because I will be sneezing later. While your dog might be tame. That’s not something that I need to worry about.
I had a dog bite me inside the Church of the Mountain hostel Delaware Water Gap. After spending the night in the three sided shelter I went inside the hostel to use the bathroom. It was kind of dark inside and I never saw the dog until it was to late, nipped me on the back of my calf drawing some blood. I'm sure the fact I was wearing baggy zip off pants save me from more of a bite. The dogs owner did not follow the hostels protocol which stated no dogs allowed inside.
I’m so glad you’re doing this video. This does not apply to just hiking, everything you said (aside from the bathroom breaks) apply to everywhere. Especially the dog thing. I love dogs and am like you, I welcome dogs giving me all the kisses. But I’ve known a lot of people with service dogs, and the worst thing people can do is approach service dogs without permission of the owner. Seriously so glad you called that side of things out.
That was fabulous. Thank you so much. You are doing an amazing job of making the Wednesday videos to answer all the good questions we came up with on the FB group!
I've so rarely ever encountered a bad apple, out there in the wild, that made me burn inside from their shellfish actions. After watching so many AT videos these past few months before I hit the trail this spring, there always seems to be at least one day when they come upon a shelter with abandoned items like tents, fuel canisters, jars of food, etc., as if 'Mom' would be along to clean up after them as in 'real life'. Shame you have to even talk about it, but with so many people out there with different thinking, I guess we just have to hope no one thinks that we're the jerk on the trail!
The music thing happened to me. I was trekking in northern Sweden and there was a couple a head of me and one of them had a speaker on full blast on their backpack, meaning it was pointed at me. When you go north enough there are no trees or bushes, the music echoed in the valley we were in and I had nowhere to go, I wasn't going to try and scramble over the loose gravel and rocks to get on top of the mountains and then later scramble down. They were quite far ahead of me that I couldn't shout over the music and then there were also the matter of language barriers.
Thanks for putting this out there. Most hikers I've run into were very good at following these principals on the trail, but a little alcohol in town and the rules are forgotten.
Fantastic video! People are jerks (most of the time), since the human race seems to get a bit more selfish every year. Sad but oh so true. (like in public transportations, parks, resting areas on highways, public restrooms in general and so forth) These "rules" should be commen sence in every day life since one is NEVER alone and there is ALWAYS someone coming up behind you. Thank you for the video, I enjoyed it very much
Most of my backpacking has been done in the Canadian Rockies where grizzly bears exist. To me, the occurrence of grizzlies isn't a justifiable reason to play music on a trail.
I invited a friend of mine to join us on a 3-day along the Waterloo-Pickney Trail here in Michigan. He brought his dog (made no mention of this to us prior to showing up). We were fine with the dog, what we weren't fine with was the fact that he didn't bring a leash for it... None. "He'll be fine." He assured us. Well, he had no control over his dog at all. His dog would run ahead of us and bug people on the trail, making all of us look like jerks. We'd all be looking at him like "Are you going to get your dog?" and he was completely oblivious. Anything we said to him about it he just brushed off like WE were being ridiculous. I even asked him if we needed to make a leash (we ALL got paracord for crying out loud) so he could keep his dog from running off, but he adamantly refused. The dog was really nice, but completely undisciplined and untrained. At one point, we came to a road crossing and the dog ran out into the middle of the road causing cars to stop and swerve, just missing his damn dog by a few feet. When we arrived at the campground that evening (12 miles) his dog ran off and it took us an hour to find him- luckily, some benevolent campers gave his dog some water and he was hanging out under their picnic table, taking a nap. He didn't even thank them or anything- he seemed annoyed that they were watching his dog for him. We sat him down at dinnertime and said "Dude, you need have better control over your dog" and he got pissed at us. He went to bed angry. Thankfully, he put the dog into his tent with him. In the morning, he was still mad and said "If my dog's not welcome, then I'm not welcome so, screw you guys... I'm going home." He hiked the 12 miles back to the cars with his dog and we went on our way. We didn't miss him or the dog the rest of the trip.
@@stevecounts325 Well, I do live in the south. Southern Arizona, that is. I even went to high school in North Carolina. I musta missed the history class where they talked about Cooter Brown.
I recently realised that offlate my snoring has gotten louder , so now no matter how tired I am I try not to doze off even momentarily on public transport like trains and planes , I have stopped going to dorms & preferring to solo rooms. Not because someone said something to me but Just so as not to be the cause of someone else's discomfort - which is tough because I used to sleep in planes and trains so as to pass time and be fresh when I arrive at the destination.
Well done Dixie! You would think most hikers understand and know these simple courtesies but a friendly reminder is always a good thing. The right of way is a stickler for me and I'm amazed how few hikers, especially day hikers, follow this etiquette.Hope all is well.
I'm wondering about proper etiquite if there's more than one bear - Do I need to yell out "hey bears!" Or can I just yell "hey y'all!" Or maybe the latter only works with AT black bears. Grizzlies would probably think I'm calling them to a Southern style dinner 🐻🐻
If there's more than one bear, she's a momma. We've come up on Grizzlies and black bear sows with cubs a few times. We just talk to her. She's the one who means the most business. 😋
As others have already stated, you’ve suggested a lot of etiquette that’s just common courtesy in everyday life, though it’s very refreshing to hear all the same. And you also point out several specific things i hadn’t yet considered in prepping for my extended GA/NC section hike. I’ve enjoyed watching a few of your other videos and very much appreciate the info and time you take to make it all available to us!
@@johnfriday5169 Religion is based entirely on being right with no evidence. That's the basis of faith. The more religious they are the more easily pissed off they are. Not my problem.
I learned first hand about the pee location. I was on a fire trail in Australia, and was busting so i hung a leak just off the trail, it was nothing special just a random spot. About an hour later i was heading back and there was a couple laying down making out right where i pissed!! Like there was so much room either side and everywhere else, why did they have to pick that spot!!!!???!??! I felt so bad, i couldn't even look at them, all i could think about was it was hot day, it's probably evaporated, that's all i could do to minimise the crippling guilt i had. Lesson learned, go right off the trail!!!
Dixie, being from Arkansas, I have heard "drunker 'n Cooter Brown" all my life! Great videos and excellent advice. Keep up the good work. Y'all take care now!!
@@derrel1259 Indeed. I've done a bit of hiking (in more recent times) in the Ozarks, as well as when I was a kid in Scouts. I wish the Ozark Trail was complete. I think for folks down south that will be huge when linked with the Ozark Highland Trail and St Francois Mountains Loop. That will be well over 700 miles total. I don't know if it will be completed any time in the next few decades, but if I'm still around I'll definitely be up for a first year thru-hike.
This video was 99.9% helpful as I plan my thru-hike Nobo on the AT. I have the upmost respect for the people I come across on the AT as well as fellow hikers, but 1 thing I got to call bullshit on is Snoring. As a person who snores I can't help that and you can't stop somebody from snoring so no matter if your in a shelter or camped out near the shelter. I have to say too bad to those around, you will have to deal with it. There is no law that says no snoring and even if you report that person who's to say you can't do that. The best way to avoid confrontation is to let people know around you that you snore. I know shelters and camping areas are maintained by the ATC and shelters can only hold X-amount of people so yes some people will have to camp nearby but if there is someone who can't sleep on the account of someone else's medical problem then why the hell are they even out there to begin with. Its a 2 way road. both parties will have to get over it and move on.
Great ideas, politely suggested -- thanks. You ask for any further ideas. I don't think you said this (maybe you did -- I was multi-tasking) but generally soft voices on the trail are nice. Also, saying Hi! You're doing great! is always appreciated. Responses to greeting are always good, too. It feels a little hollow if you say Hi! to someone and they don't respond. It might give someone the feeling that you're either depressed or dangerous.
Thank you for this video! I hope everyone hiking watches it. I'm hyper-aware of others around me and it drives me crazy when others are not. There was a guy that asked about carrying spray sunscreen and I said please don't spray it around other people. Heh said that was fair, so thankful for that. I literally get bronchitis if I breathe in sunscreen.
I love your videos thank you for sharing so much information. I'm planning on doing a thru hike of the PCT in 2021. You have definitely helped me shape my gear list and lots of other things. So Thank you so very much.
@discorperted -- yes, firepits depends on the trail, the reason for the pit, etc. here where i live in NJ and our neighbor PA, there seem to be well meaning people that think they are contributing to the trail by making clearings and constructing huge pits for bonfires. The"ciairns" that are left -- especially near streams , lakes, and ponds, are not good for the environment or trail aesthetics
Considering some markers on the CDT are only large cairns, yeah I don't care to chance mixing up a marker with someone's pile of disrespect to the land. Leaving it how you found it applies to not building cairns as well, don't disturb the environment!
@@Linalinalane rock piles leave evidence that a human was there, piling rocks. It's not natural to an environment that we're all supposed to be keeping devoid of human molestation. If 10 people a day leave a pile of rocks on a trail, at the end of 1 year, there are 3,650 rock piles on the trail, ruining the natural environment that everyone goes to a trail to enjoy. Hence why we leave no trace as a courtesy to other future hikers, and even our own future hikes on the same trail. It's courtesy and logic...not really rocket science.
Having hiked around other thru-hikers with Bear as part of their trail name, having to hear "Hey Bear " being yelled constantly in Grizzly country must get old real quick. Your comment on music, amen. I might have phrased it more bluntly; just wear your ear buds already and stop blasting it out the phone speaker! 10 years ago, almost no one did that. In recent years, it happens often.
what about when it comes to ULTRALIGHT JERKS?😂😂😂..great. video..LNT is good stuff...i liked following the dude who picked up all kinds of trash on the CDT last year..
I recently found a youtube with an UL marathoner who admitted that he nearly froze and couldn't make a fire. His cold soaks were not good hypothermia treatment and someone else had to save his...butt. It's smart to lighten up sensibly, but there are growing numbers of marathoners who are too smart by half.
@@mountainmonk5874 good to know about cold soaking, i was considering it. I have had food poisoning once before and i never want it again, so im not taking that risk.. Thanks!!!!
8:39 Not to mention that in the GSMNP in TN, dogs are only allowed in campgrounds, picnic areas, and along roads, and must be kept on a 6ft or shorter leash at all times. Dogs are only allowed on two short walking paths-the Gatlinburg Trail and the Oconaluftee River Trail. Pets are not allowed on any other national park trails. That includes every one of the trails that make up the AT through it. So it could literally cost you $5K & 6 months of federal time incarcerated to hike with your dog in the TN section of the AT thru the GSMNP.
I feel like you touched a lot of great points. Especially when you brought up, only taking what you need from a trail magic. Some folks can be so greedy. Great video.
Everything you said is basic common sense, some people just don't have it. My peeve is when I'm hiking behind a group and they're talking really loud and even when I pass them I have to hike faster just to get away from them.
@@russell2952 Your "comment" wasn't helpful. Reetz was saying he she had to walk faster than their normal pace to put some distance between them and the offensive noise.
YES! I had this once with a group of teenagers. I passed them and could still hear them. I tried letting them go ahead of me and they'd go slow. I passed them and pretty much sprinted to try and get away to some peace but they somehow kept up with me.
Thank you Dixie. A trail edict refresher is alway good 😁 I’m so close to starting my thru hike of the AT and just want to say thank you for all of the great info that you have provided! ⛰
I enjoyed the video. I was hoping you could talk about etiquette upon arriving at a campsite, especially with folks that are already there... after hours do you just pitch your tent, do you try to make contact with the people if they are sleeping, do you stay away from them and is there a rule of thumb on how close that you can set up your tent to someone else's tent... there has to be a whole lot of etiquette on how to do this!?
I backpacked for a long time, from my early 20s to mid/late 20s, a passage of right in 90s UK. I didn't realise I was "backpacking", I quite literally didn't care what anyone thought of me, I had a heavy pack for a while and then it came down to 6kg gradually. I bought clothes and stuff when I landed in another country and gave stuff away as I moved, I was a real Chis McCandless excluding the Akaskan mistake. Most of these rules, the people who break them - apart from the peeing and being rude, I didn't care if you break. Life is too short, there are some colourful characters out there and being almost 46 now, that guy playing music or staying awake all night, the guy being loud...this is all part of my memories. My rule of thumb is: don't be a dick and remain humble. Don't be stuck up your own arse and remember, there is snobbery in every activity and you can walk away from people as quickly as you meet them.
I just gotta ask girl, how do you do what you do and not swear?! I admire that! I’d be cussin like a cat in a bathtub if I was doing what you donon them trails! Props to you! Seriously! You’re a class act my friend!
"drunker than Cooter Brown..." You have me in stitches on that statement. (And you're on point on everything else. On one of my day hike trails, there is a noticeable amount of white kleenex tossed aside - probably by a runner - and all I can think of is, "Really?" (And that I need to take sterile gloves next time to collect some and dispose of it properly!) But I have also contacted the conservancy that oversees it (and tends it quite well) and maybe ask them to put up a sign, please dispose of your trash at the trailheads. Thanks for the reminders!
Hey, Dixie, I think you forgot to include the LNT link in the description. Super important for all the new folks who come along and find this video. Great job! 😊👍🏽
00:00 Hey Y'all!
00:52 Leave No Trace
03:18 Think before you pee
04:14 Water Sources
05:32 When you're walking
07:12 Music
08:39 Dogs
10:21 Shelters
14:16 Trail Magic etiquette
15:24 In trail towns
16:45 Hike Your Own Hike
Love it when you do this.
Really cool way to breakdown the vlog. Love your stuff Dixie!
Dixie this was done so eloquently. For people not familiar with the Trail it's helpful to gently give "The lay of the land".
If you are on the trail long enough you come to know that you are always following someone who was there the day or week before and you get to observe what they left behind. As a AT-NOBO I was impressed how the trail culture became cleaner, friendlier, and much more respectful with each week. YOU simply have jump-started that process and we are all in your debt.
This guide is really helpful thanks.
Homemade Wanderlust : I would advise you not always to pet all dogs. Now more and more people are having service dogs. Some of those people don’t need these dogs but for those who do need them then those dogs are dedicated to their owners. For example, an owner maybe prone to seizers or diabetic then that dog doesn’t need to distracted from his/her owner. Most all service dogs has a shirt saying service dog and even given permission by the owner can untrain and distract loose focus on the job the dog is trained for.
I suppose I'm too late to comment to get noticed, but I do wish Dix had mentioned: don't get egotistical or lecturing about equipment quality. Some hikers are poor and get what they can from Walmart.
Agreed, I work retail at an outdoor store, and even though I know what is best, I wouldn't dream of scolding a customer for not being able to buy top tier products. I just want them out there having a great time!
As in hike your own hike?
@@Kasino80 Totally agree!
Something we don’t consider is that no one likes to be preached at.
“You use that? You see this? It is the best thing ever because it was made by (name brand).
Some folks turn equipment choices into holy mandates...
Good point. All of my stuff is from Walmart. I prefer to be left totally alone when camping. No small talk or social interaction. Just my preference 😉
Some really good informative advice. One more you could add is; when you stop to take a break, eat lunch, etc., please move off to the side of the trail. I can't even count the number of times I've had to hike right thru the middle of group or around someone stopped in the middle of the trail.
Captain Blacktoe wow..!!! that mustv been hard..!!!!! 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
Barone B it’s just inconsiderate to sit on the path it’s rude to expect everyone else to walk around you would you park your car in the middle of the road?
Dogs are banned in the backcountry of National Parks and I'm surprised at how some folks get upset when they're turned back at the boundary. Saw it at Donohue Pass when a ranger told a guy that he couldn't bring his two dogs into Yosemite. Rule of thumb, know what the laws are before you go, that guy threw such a fit he was arrested and they took his dogs too.
THIS. I went to go hiking with a friend who INSISTED she bring her dog. I asked so many times if she were sure it was allowed, as I faintly remember some places had rules against it. When we went to a swimming area for people she insisted again to bring her dog into the water and a lot of people were pissed, talking crap, etc about it. She threw a huge fit and got so butthurt about it. Her dog wouldn't behave on the trail, etc. Well on our way back out I noticed the sign that said no dogs allowed. She shouldn't have brought her dog to begin with. I don't understand how so many people can just show up not knowing what they're getting themselves into.
They skirt around this by saying the dog is a service animal.
@@tenfourproductionsllc Unfortunately that doesn't fly back there. Dogs are prey to bears and mountain lions if they're smaller dogs or are possible predators themselves and people have been attacked by backpacker's pets. The Park Service doesn't want them back there. Bears love little dogs to death.
Love it, love love it. I was at Devils Tower and there was a fella feeding prarie/gopher dogs in plain view of a sign-Do Not .... A ranger pulled up and gave him a 75 fine he wasn't happy about. There is justice sometimes.
@@williambranham6249 UGH WHAT IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE???! Reading that just makes me frustrated. Glad he got a fine. Confused he still threw a fit. I don't understand some folks! :(
As an older hiker (69 1/2 yrs) I have found that the younger hikers typically step aside (whether going up or down slope) for me. I am not as sure footed as I used to be and I really appreciate the fact that they are understanding enough to step aside and allow me to pass. Having said that when I am not walking and watching each step that I am taking, I will get out of the way for the younger hikers coming up or down hill. A big Thank You goes out to those polite younger hikers on the trail. God bless you all!
I stopped counting half-years sometime around 5. What age is it that that starts up again? 65?
It's very interesting to watch this as a German hiker. Especially the part about letting people who are going uphill pass - in the German Alps it's typically the other way round. To me it makes more sense because 1. the walkers who are descending are usually faster, so the others don't have to wait as long and 2. the danger of slipping is higher on the descent, especially when you have to make way for someone else. Then again, mountains in the Alps are higher and most likely steeper than those on the AT, so "my" rule might be less reasonable on this trail.
Thank you for giving me the chance to gain insights into a different hiking culture with this video and several of your older ones. I'm looking forward to visiting the US in a few years and maybe hike some sections of your beautiful trails... or even thru-hike one of them, if I'm able to arrange for a sabbatical :)
Interesting perspective! I would imagine your approach would be more applicable to the Pacific Coast trail. But courtesy is universally acknowledged!
I agree. It's much harder to stop downhill momentum than up hill momentum. How did it turn out this way!?
I'm glad you made this because I never really thought about it but my buddies all listen to some music. So when we hike we take a BT speaker with us but for now on will use earbuds...
randall brown Thank you. Its much appreciated.
Thank you for switching to earbuds!!
this shoulda been common sense...
Yes much appreciated! I love the sounds of nature and nothing brings me back to stressful city life like music.
I love your "Table of Contents" style description. Really enjoying your vids.
Seriously, dig a legit hole. Placing the mess under a small rock is not how this works. Can not be said enough.
"Duff your turd" - said every log book and privy wall.
What about under someone (else’s) shoe? Haha! Just kidding, but seriously, dig to’ shit down!
Dixie, I love the way you say "bright white light..."
Highlight of this video. :)
… for the first ten miles, okay, but not the last 2,190 miles. Same with "hack your own hack."
Love that southern accent!
I had to listen to that twice to crack the accent code. Love it and people make fun of my aussie accent well until I do my Homer Pyle impersonation😍
@@michaelmcphee2930 >>> _"Well, gollllllly!"_ 😊
I wish people would respect “hiker midnight” in hotels also. So many times I hear doors slamming & people shouting at 11pm, & 5am-7am when I’m on vacation.
Nice video btw! I learned a lot.
Right???
People are ridiculous!
Lol tell that to the gainesville ga motel 6
The worst is in state campgrounds where there are RVs. They will stay up yakking until 2am. The RVs will run their AC and I've seen them even running generators all night.
@@garretth1824 Ayyyyy!!! I live in Gainesville, Florida far away but we're border buddies with the same town name. :D
One thing I see on the trail (more and more frequently) is folks who bring their dogs (no problem with that BTW) but haven't really done their due diligence on the trail as far as terrain and water crossings. We were on the Eagle Rock Loop (Arkansas) last October and helped another hiker get his dog across a fairly challenging water crossing with deep, rushing water that was too high for the dog to navigate. Folks just need to remember that being prepared means making sure you are prepared for what to do with your dog too. That one turned out fine because there were other hikers there to help. There are plenty of crossings like that out there, and you don't want to put yourself or your dog in unnecessary danger by trying to cross without assistance. Once we were all across, he pondered out loud about how he wouldn't have been able to do that without help. Just make sure you do your research before you go.
HYOH does not mean "I get to stop being mindful". There's a prevalent mindset in the hiker community that we're all sooo in touch with Nature. Cool. Then be in touch with Nature. Leave No Trace. No trace. That should, IMO, include noise and bad manners. It's not hard.
Being a considerate hiker has made me be more aware of any environment I find myself in, whether it's the Trail, my neighborhood, a city street, or just being in public. Take the Trail with you everywhere.
Great video, Dixie. Thanks for all the hard work.
thanks for including the bit about music, blue tooth speakers on trails and even summits have become increasingly prevelant. takes me right out of it.
I agree with you Mandy. The trail is no place for noise. I have even quit hiking in much of the North Georgia Mountains because of the Motorcycles. You can be on top of Blood Mountain and still hear Motorcycles noises coming up through the Valleys.
I love the slogan “Treat others the way THEY want to be treated.” We can’t use “Hike your own hike” as an excuse to do whatever we want on trail. Great video Dixie! Enjoyed it 🙌🏻🙌🏻
I would like to be treated to dinner. Thank you!
Lol! @@drowningin
See also: do unto others as they SHOULD do unto you.” Not as they do, necessarily, because not everyone gets that principle.
@@newmanifest Great way to get walked over your whole life
@@newmanifest Not everyone wants to be treated the same. The root comment says it best.
People who think that being courteous is "taking the fun out of everything" should realize that their "fun" takes the fun out for other people. Don't be a person who needs to do things that irritate others to have fun.
If you are talking about communal campsites. But If your "fun" is ruined by a passing speaker, perhaps you don't belong on the trail, or around people in general.
@@remyllebeau77 I mean, the reason most people are out on the trail is to not be around people in general.
@@saxgoddess25 Then I question their rational for picking a known trail where many people could pass them instead of going out backpacking to a remote area that isn't widely used.
@@remyllebeau77 It's really not that hard to wear ear buds, head phones, or something of the sort. The moral of the story here is don't be a jerk. Rationalize it any way you want, putting your music on blast is being a jerk.
@@saxgoddess25 I have already addressed that. I agree if it is a communal camping site, if it is out in the woods and I'm alone as far as I know, there is nothing wrong with playing music on a speaker. Then it is you being the jerk and trying to control people when you have no right.
Perish the thought that you are slightly discomforted for one minute while someone passes you. /s
Thanks for the dog etiquette. Once I came across a mom with a school age kid who was terrified of dogs and the kid was screaming and panicked when my (leashed) dog met them head on. It was really terrifying for the kid. I had to back out to a side trail to let them pass. I’m SO glad they didn’t meet an unleashed “friendly“ dog.
That's so nice of you. I am very scared of dogs and even though I don't scream anymore, I can definitely cry uncontrollably and/or have a full blown panic attack when a dog is jumping on me or running towards me. I would like to thank you for respecting the fear of others
Man, I HATE when people blare their music. I was out hiking one day, heard music, thought I might be getting close to the NSP campground, nope, It was a backpacker, headed my way with a BOOMBOX attached to his pack, blaring at full volume. Cmon, get some earphones. That's the one thing that's drives me up the wall, how inconsiderate!
Also chatty, loud teenagers
Had the same thing on the Everest Base Camp Trek. Not just other hikers, but porters hauling stuff up into the mountains. Yeah, I understand that it's their country; but it doesn't help to improve the tourism that is the number one source of income along the trail.
@@maris7457 Who never seem have anything interesting to say anyway.
@anime You are a prime example.
yeah thats bullshit, if you have to walk around with a boombox blaring hip-hop or kenny chesney, you might wanna turn back around and go back to the city, because you are fuckin everyone elses experience up.
Great information, not only for the trail, but in all you do. Have respect for others, others properties, and yourself.
Thanks for sharing this Dixie :)
You're not just a thru-hiker... You're a true-hiker. Leading by example. Thank you!
Too bad dickheads will never not be plentiful
Don't 'cool guy' other hikers when you pass. Say good morning, nod, smile, make eye contact. Don't feel the need to stop and make small talk for an hour, just acknowledge that your two humans crossing paths.
*you’re
A lot of this just seems like common decency and respect ....I have been camping and had people playing music at 10 pm through the whole camp it’s just rude honestly
I was in a Usfs campground and a group of girly Boyz were watching a porno on a big screen TV.
I get up and tell them to quit usually.
You forgot don't cut switchbacks, this only destroys the forest.
Colorado wilds oh man that really annoys me. See it all the time on walking paths and mountain bike trails in Scotland 😡
had to go and learn what this meant, seems legit! (for those like me: stick to the path so you don't cause damage even if path is harder, is what it means)
A straight path is a short path So straight I shall go
@@codyturner9813 You got the right idea
What does this mean? Don't cut switchbacks?
#peebuttwater
My twin 6 yr olds heard that. They may never quit laughing.
"You drink per butt water!"
"No, you drink per butt water!"
@superfly2201 >>> I bet you are STILL hearing it...😊
Did they move on to new amusements?
And not just for people who are allergic to or afraid of dogs. I've been straight up tripped by a dog who was sweet and really enthusiastic, but appeared right where my next step needed to go. It hurt like hell when I hit the rocks with my knees! Dogs don't know any better, but their humans should. Keep your dog and other humans safe by keeping your dog close and under command. Wildlife could hurt them, too.
Thanks for bringing that up, Dixie. It's a tough one, as everyone gets defensive about how their dog is the *best* dog and couldn't possibly be scary/dangerous/in danger...
Great points as always. External speakers- leave them at home. Wear headphones- your music will sound better, you can play it louder and you won't bother anyone else. Dogs- keep yours on a leash and, no, I don't want your dog to meet my dog. Trash- pick up trash you see on the trail and pack it out... even if it's not yours.
I love this! I support all the suggestions you made! Think about the person behind you people...or next to you or in front of you. I think music, even someone with a guitar, is one of the most invasive things you can do to others out in the woods, but all of your points were on point Dixie!
I hope to goodness no one comes up with an ultralight guitar (if they haven’t already).
Really, really, REALLY great points here. Many folks don't care about others in the outdoors. This needs to be a major part of sharing the outdoors.
As a budding backpacker, I appreciate these "newbie's guide" vids.
Some are common sense/etiquette, but others are things those of us new to the hobby don't know yet!
LOL, first time hiker here. This should be played on repeat in every shuttle, bus and/or breakfast restaurant near the southern and northern terminus. Great upload!
Hi Dixie! Great video on a very important topic. One thing I'd add for safety is when you step aside to let the uphill hikers pass, make sure you step to the upslope side of the trail to wait. You don't want to pull aside and slip down a long slope to make room.
As someone returning to the trails after a 30+ year hiatus, I find your videos so helpful. Your trail presence and vibe in your videos are always appreciated.
A Good Day: When Dixie posts a new video. :)
"Bright White Light" (with Dixie's accent.)
"Drunker than Cooter Brown."
Always something that makes me smile.
Also love that no dog is safe around you.
This comment made me so happy :)
Hacker midnat. :)
I had to watch it again to catch the "braht waht laht" part. Love the southern accent. Thank you for the informative video
i actually had a guy watch a whole episode of the Sopranos in a shelter on the AT...man.. that was so uncool...lots of cursing and gunfire as well as his personal commentary ...dont be that guy people..please..love your videos Dixie girl. happy trails
that seems so unneccessary, I would think he'd be out there to get away from that...
At any shelter on the AT, if it has cell service, most are glued to their phones, even after hiker midnight. If I were trail god, I would ban all cellphones except to trailheads.
That guy should've used ear buds..
ew wtf was wrong with that guy
I bring a 55” LED, blueray player and at least a 3.1 channel surround....is that wrong?
Hello Dixie, thank you for sharing this informative video. Many hikers need to be educated regarding proper etiquette when in the outdoors. You did a fine job of presenting the information. Take care out there and be safe. 🤗
Excellent point around 13:50 about shelter hogs. The one time I've ever personally experienced extreme rudeness on the AT was at Springer Shelter when we walked up to the shelter to cook supper and the small group of a**wipes already there made it plain that we were not welcome, that they considered the shelter to be theirs for the night and they wanted us gone. It wasn't just dirty looks; they told us verbally. Rather than give them what they deserved, we simply left them to it and they have now become one of those stories we tell as a bad example. As we say around here, their mommas didn't raise 'em right.
Sidney Hornblower “give them what they deserved” lmao classic
you gave them what they wanted though which reinforced their bad behavior so they are likely to do it again. i would have been like "ok, if you want to be disrespectful, hog the shelter and make others hiking experience miserable, i can play that same game."
Another etiquette tip on trails shared with horseback riders: when riders are approaching you on a trail it is polite/safer to step off on the downhill side of the trail. This makes you look less opposing to the horses. They can be fearful of predators attacking from above. Just a little friendly tip.
dont bring a dog unless its on a leash and in control of the handler. I dont want to get hurt and I dont want to see your pet get hurt.
The video she showed as a person carrying two hiking sticks with an unleashed dog. There is no way to effectively hike carrying two hiking poles and a dog leach.
Or grow up and realize that dogs are dogs.. if a dog is controlled enough to be off the leash it is controlled.
Hurting someone’s dog is a pretty good way to get hurt. A well trained dog is no threat to you
wendell read you are making the assumption that all dogs are well trained? This last weekend I had a “well trained” experienced hiking dog growl and try to bite me. Because I was climbing over a downed tree, and the dog was confused. Luckily I know dogs, and I told the owner stay far away from me so I wouldn’t be deemed a threat. The dog was fine after I got away from the trail blockage, and the owner apologized. But he never realized that though I was using my pole to create distance with my left hand, my right hand was on my .38 in my pocket. That irresponsible owner created a very dangerous situation for me and the dog.
No owner can truly be prepared for the situations or ways a dog perceives his surroundings. To presume so is shear arrogance. Follow the law, use a leash.
A lot of people are scared of dogs. I am. I really don't want a dog to jump on me or run towards me. That is common courtesy. Other people are dog persons. I respect that. I am not and I would like other people to respect that.
The yielding for horses on the trail is really important. Like GET OFF THE TRAIL. I and my husband (Both Thru Hikers from 1990) have hiked on shared-use trails and always move a distance off trail for horses.
We once witnessed a hiker plow on by a horse and rider, never yielding or slowing down and the horse panicked. It was not pretty and only by the rider's best effort was the horse not injured. The hiker never looked back at the havoc he caused. We were livid for the rider and her mount.
Ever since then, if there's a horse, we clear the way substantially, moving at least a dozen feet off the trail and waiting quietly.
I agree completely with you. I do not agree with mixed use human/horse trails because we now live in a "horseless" society and there is a lack of knowledge on our part on interacting with horses. I hike in SW Va. where there are plenty of mixed use trails. Hiking on a trail that is mostly horsey is a nightmare. MUD and MUCK. I realize I got a bit off topic but that's just me.
JackMax… Put trail registers (and Pens) back in the plastic sleeve and box where you got them and no, the box is not a receptacle for your candy wrappers...y'all (put that in for Dixie)
Also don't burn your trash in the campfire.
One of my favorite things about listening to you talk is how quick you are with stuff like 'cooter brown', etc. I loved it on your thru hikes when something would shock you and just anything would come out of your mouth...it was great entertainment. Hope you do another hike soon. Really enjoy the filming of those locations and the banter you share on your hikes!!
Every point well taken, laid out and presented. Very good reminders, Dixie..going to copy and save the list, and favorite the video, Happy Trails!!
This could easily be so much longer but you kept it short and on point. They say the average listening concentration is 20 minutes so this is perfect. Good job Aaron & Dixie!
That’s interesting on the uphiller having the right of way. Growing up I was taught the person going downhill has the right of way because it’s more difficult for them to stop their decent. In essence a safety issue.
If they're going down fast enough that they can't stop, they're probably in trouble already and will take you down with them!!
Seeing that I'm 73 and overweight, my through hikes will happen on the other side of the pearly gates...but I thoroughly enjoy your adventures, stories, and insights... which are truly impressive and amazing.
Some great advice - nicely done 👍
I had a new found interest in camping, but having to deal with other people along with even finding a legal and safe camp site is quickly discouraging me 😔
Don't give up. Go during a week day, when possible, and avoid popular trails. Take someone with you as well as a GPS alert unit.
@@williambranham6249 thank you! I will! 😁
12 jerks saw this video and gave it a thumb down...
My first "trail-magic" encounter was back in 2010 on the PCT after slogging through Fuller Ridge. A little dirt road clearing had a couple of pickups, a picnic table with a giant cooler under it, and no people. The cooler had a piece of paper on it held down by a rock. Wow. Trail Magic. I've heard about this stuff before! The paper said: "Don't steal our stuff". nice.
I went back there next year to the same spot with a hiking buddy and hosted EPIC trail magic for the hikers that dragged through all day: fresh watermelon, beer, soda, bread, butter, salads...
Leash law. Lots of people have been attacked by dogs and do not want a strange dogs running up to them. Some people are allergic.
More deaths and injuries caused by pet dogs in the US than all other warm-blodded animals put together.
Agreed. Many people have been bitten by dogs as children and retain a fear of dogs, especially strange dogs.
I agree. Dogs should be on leash. While I love dogs. I don’t want one to touch me because I will be sneezing later. While your dog might be tame. That’s not something that I need to worry about.
I thought I was gonna get attacked by dogs several times,except one time a dog jumped on me and put a hole in my new shirt.
I had a dog bite me inside the Church of the Mountain hostel Delaware Water Gap.
After spending the night in the three sided shelter I went inside the hostel to use the bathroom. It was kind of dark inside and I never saw the dog until it was to late, nipped me on the back of my calf drawing some blood. I'm sure the fact I was wearing baggy zip off pants save me from more of a bite. The dogs owner did not follow the hostels protocol which stated no dogs allowed inside.
I’m so glad you’re doing this video. This does not apply to just hiking, everything you said (aside from the bathroom breaks) apply to everywhere. Especially the dog thing. I love dogs and am like you, I welcome dogs giving me all the kisses. But I’ve known a lot of people with service dogs, and the worst thing people can do is approach service dogs without permission of the owner. Seriously so glad you called that side of things out.
Did you see how dirty that water was in the laundry machine? Washin' off the trail dirt
That was fabulous. Thank you so much. You are doing an amazing job of making the Wednesday videos to answer all the good questions we came up with on the FB group!
I've so rarely ever encountered a bad apple, out there in the wild, that made me burn inside from their shellfish actions. After watching so many AT videos these past few months before I hit the trail this spring, there always seems to be at least one day when they come upon a shelter with abandoned items like tents, fuel canisters, jars of food, etc., as if 'Mom' would be along to clean up after them as in 'real life'. Shame you have to even talk about it, but with so many people out there with different thinking, I guess we just have to hope no one thinks that we're the jerk on the trail!
I hiked the A.T. many years ago. I started to hike longer days to get away from a trail jerk.
Cheryl: I hiked in 98 and had to hike farther than planned on some occasions to avoid sheltering again with a known jerk.
The music thing happened to me. I was trekking in northern Sweden and there was a couple a head of me and one of them had a speaker on full blast on their backpack, meaning it was pointed at me. When you go north enough there are no trees or bushes, the music echoed in the valley we were in and I had nowhere to go, I wasn't going to try and scramble over the loose gravel and rocks to get on top of the mountains and then later scramble down. They were quite far ahead of me that I couldn't shout over the music and then there were also the matter of language barriers.
Very rude! (All Swedes speak english, though 😁)
@@carinarickard3289 They weren't Swedes.
Thanks for putting this out there. Most hikers I've run into were very good at following these principals on the trail, but a little alcohol in town and the rules are forgotten.
Fantastic video! People are jerks (most of the time), since the human race seems to get a bit more selfish every year. Sad but oh so true. (like in public transportations, parks, resting areas on highways, public restrooms in general and so forth) These "rules" should be commen sence in every day life since one is NEVER alone and there is ALWAYS someone coming up behind you. Thank you for the video, I enjoyed it very much
I am just getting into ideas around hiking and appreciate your videos. They are giving great things to consider.
Most of my backpacking has been done in the Canadian Rockies where grizzly bears exist. To me, the occurrence of grizzlies isn't a justifiable reason to play music on a trail.
I invited a friend of mine to join us on a 3-day along the Waterloo-Pickney Trail here in Michigan. He brought his dog (made no mention of this to us prior to showing up). We were fine with the dog, what we weren't fine with was the fact that he didn't bring a leash for it... None. "He'll be fine." He assured us. Well, he had no control over his dog at all. His dog would run ahead of us and bug people on the trail, making all of us look like jerks. We'd all be looking at him like "Are you going to get your dog?" and he was completely oblivious. Anything we said to him about it he just brushed off like WE were being ridiculous. I even asked him if we needed to make a leash (we ALL got paracord for crying out loud) so he could keep his dog from running off, but he adamantly refused. The dog was really nice, but completely undisciplined and untrained. At one point, we came to a road crossing and the dog ran out into the middle of the road causing cars to stop and swerve, just missing his damn dog by a few feet. When we arrived at the campground that evening (12 miles) his dog ran off and it took us an hour to find him- luckily, some benevolent campers gave his dog some water and he was hanging out under their picnic table, taking a nap. He didn't even thank them or anything- he seemed annoyed that they were watching his dog for him. We sat him down at dinnertime and said "Dude, you need have better control over your dog" and he got pissed at us. He went to bed angry. Thankfully, he put the dog into his tent with him. In the morning, he was still mad and said "If my dog's not welcome, then I'm not welcome so, screw you guys... I'm going home." He hiked the 12 miles back to the cars with his dog and we went on our way. We didn't miss him or the dog the rest of the trip.
Ha! Had to look up Cooter Brown!
galiuro You’re not from around here are you?
Me too!
I had to look that up too!
@@stevecounts325 Well, I do live in the south. Southern Arizona, that is. I even went to high school in North Carolina. I musta missed the history class where they talked about Cooter Brown.
@@GaliurosIt's a very common saying in the Old South.
I recently realised that offlate my snoring has gotten louder , so now no matter how tired I am I try not to doze off even momentarily on public transport like trains and planes , I have stopped going to dorms & preferring to solo rooms. Not because someone said something to me but Just so as not to be the cause of someone else's discomfort - which is tough because I used to sleep in planes and trains so as to pass time and be fresh when I arrive at the destination.
I'm always happy to yield to someone descending as I ascend because that way I have an excuse to catch my breath! ;D
I had the same thing go thru my head lol
Well done Dixie! You would think most hikers understand and know these simple courtesies but a friendly reminder is always a good thing. The right of way is a stickler for me and I'm amazed how few hikers, especially day hikers, follow this etiquette.Hope all is well.
I'm wondering about proper etiquite if there's more than one bear -
Do I need to yell out "hey bears!"
Or can I just yell "hey y'all!"
Or maybe the latter only works with AT black bears. Grizzlies would probably think I'm calling them to a Southern style dinner 🐻🐻
If there's more than one bear, she's a momma. We've come up on Grizzlies and black bear sows with cubs a few times. We just talk to her. She's the one who means the most business. 😋
Or, if you’re from south side Chicago, it’s: “Hey da Bears!”
@@newmanifest Or a little up north its more like "Hey der guy, da Bears still suck!"
I randomly came across a vid of yours and have now been binging for a few hours, you have more than earned my subscription. Love it
I hike with a group sometimes. They have only one rule - respect. Aretha Franklin would be proud.
As others have already stated, you’ve suggested a lot of etiquette that’s just common courtesy in everyday life, though it’s very refreshing to hear all the same. And you also point out several specific things i hadn’t yet considered in prepping for my extended GA/NC section hike. I’ve enjoyed watching a few of your other videos and very much appreciate the info and time you take to make it all available to us!
Politics and religion are never a great conversation in a group. It rarely take more than 2 minutes to piss someone off.
I hope no one will ever talk politics on a trail. Wr hike to escape everyday life
It is ironic that the two most powerful forces holding mankind back gets a frown for topics of conversation.
Only because they're wrong!
Agree. We all have opinions, and that's great. We don't need to have the same views to go out and enjoy nature.
@@johnfriday5169 Religion is based entirely on being right with no evidence. That's the basis of faith. The more religious they are the more easily pissed off they are. Not my problem.
I learned first hand about the pee location. I was on a fire trail in Australia, and was busting so i hung a leak just off the trail, it was nothing special just a random spot.
About an hour later i was heading back and there was a couple laying down making out right where i pissed!! Like there was so much room either side and everywhere else, why did they have to pick that spot!!!!???!??!
I felt so bad, i couldn't even look at them, all i could think about was it was hot day, it's probably evaporated, that's all i could do to minimise the crippling guilt i had. Lesson learned, go right off the trail!!!
Dixie, being from Arkansas, I have heard "drunker 'n Cooter Brown" all my life! Great videos and excellent advice. Keep up the good work. Y'all take care now!!
Is Dixie from Arkansas as well? I lived there for around eight years when I was a kid.
@@matth1143 IDK but Arkansas has some very nice hiking and camping.
@@derrel1259 Indeed. I've done a bit of hiking (in more recent times) in the Ozarks, as well as when I was a kid in Scouts. I wish the Ozark Trail was complete. I think for folks down south that will be huge when linked with the Ozark Highland Trail and St Francois Mountains Loop. That will be well over 700 miles total. I don't know if it will be completed any time in the next few decades, but if I'm still around I'll definitely be up for a first year thru-hike.
This video was 99.9% helpful as I plan my thru-hike Nobo on the AT. I have the upmost respect for the people I come across on the AT as well as fellow hikers, but 1 thing I got to call bullshit on is Snoring. As a person who snores I can't help that and you can't stop somebody from snoring so no matter if your in a shelter or camped out near the shelter. I have to say too bad to those around, you will have to deal with it. There is no law that says no snoring and even if you report that person who's to say you can't do that. The best way to avoid confrontation is to let people know around you that you snore. I know shelters and camping areas are maintained by the ATC and shelters can only hold X-amount of people so yes some people will have to camp nearby but if there is someone who can't sleep on the account of someone else's medical problem then why the hell are they even out there to begin with. Its a 2 way road. both parties will have to get over it and move on.
Great ideas, politely suggested -- thanks. You ask for any further ideas. I don't think you said this (maybe you did -- I was multi-tasking) but generally soft voices on the trail are nice. Also, saying Hi! You're doing great! is always appreciated. Responses to greeting are always good, too. It feels a little hollow if you say Hi! to someone and they don't respond. It might give someone the feeling that you're either depressed or dangerous.
Or we just dont care to talk to other people. Not everyone is there to make friends, I'm there to hike a trail. Not a social convention.
I just left a comment an another video requesting a video like this! You already had one :) awesomeness. Thanks so much!
shee, all this time I thought "leave no trace" is what you do when you find a box of trail magic on the trail
hahaha
Good advice.Some people NEED to be reminded of this,over and over and over, for SOME reason. Thank you! Peace
Thank you for this video! I hope everyone hiking watches it. I'm hyper-aware of others around me and it drives me crazy when others are not. There was a guy that asked about carrying spray sunscreen and I said please don't spray it around other people. Heh said that was fair, so thankful for that. I literally get bronchitis if I breathe in sunscreen.
What a great video Dixie. All good stuff to be reminded of, and you deliver it so respectfully and joyfully. Thanks!
"...drunker than Cooter Brown..." LOL
I love your videos thank you for sharing so much information. I'm planning on doing a thru hike of the PCT in 2021. You have definitely helped me shape my gear list and lots of other things. So Thank you so very much.
As a hiker who is afraid of dogs, I very much appreciate you including that in your etiquette rules.
“Drunker than Cooter Brown….” Hahahahaha! This video is one of my favorites! Great info as always!
don't build rock piles or fire pits
@discorperted -- yes, firepits depends on the trail, the reason for the pit, etc. here where i live in NJ and our neighbor PA, there seem to be well meaning people that think they are contributing to the trail by making clearings and constructing huge pits for bonfires. The"ciairns" that are left -- especially near streams , lakes, and ponds, are not good for the environment or trail aesthetics
Considering some markers on the CDT are only large cairns, yeah I don't care to chance mixing up a marker with someone's pile of disrespect to the land. Leaving it how you found it applies to not building cairns as well, don't disturb the environment!
Both of these are details of LNT.
Whats wrong with rock piles?
@@Linalinalane rock piles leave evidence that a human was there, piling rocks. It's not natural to an environment that we're all supposed to be keeping devoid of human molestation. If 10 people a day leave a pile of rocks on a trail, at the end of 1 year, there are 3,650 rock piles on the trail, ruining the natural environment that everyone goes to a trail to enjoy. Hence why we leave no trace as a courtesy to other future hikers, and even our own future hikes on the same trail. It's courtesy and logic...not really rocket science.
13:25 "bryte wyte lyte"
I absolutely love it.
I like the way you say "brat what lat" (bright white light). :-) carry on...
braahht whyaahht liaahht. -Awesome cuteness.
Having hiked around other thru-hikers with Bear as part of their trail name, having to hear "Hey Bear " being yelled constantly in Grizzly country must get old real quick.
Your comment on music, amen. I might have phrased it more bluntly; just wear your ear buds already and stop blasting it out the phone speaker! 10 years ago, almost no one did that. In recent years, it happens often.
what about when it comes to ULTRALIGHT JERKS?😂😂😂..great. video..LNT is good stuff...i liked following the dude who picked up all kinds of trash on the CDT last year..
brett hikez Clean Sweep?! He’s a cool dude.
I recently found a youtube with an UL marathoner who admitted that he nearly froze and couldn't make a fire. His cold soaks were not good hypothermia treatment and someone else had to save his...butt.
It's smart to lighten up sensibly, but there are growing numbers of marathoners who are too smart by half.
@@mountainmonk5874 good to know about cold soaking, i was considering it. I have had food poisoning once before and i never want it again, so im not taking that risk.. Thanks!!!!
@Aaron Just look up health codes for food storage, in a dangerous activity best not to add more risk.
8:39 Not to mention that in the GSMNP in TN, dogs are only allowed in campgrounds, picnic areas, and along roads, and must be kept on a 6ft or shorter leash at all times. Dogs are only allowed on two short walking paths-the Gatlinburg Trail and the Oconaluftee River Trail. Pets are not allowed on any other national park trails. That includes every one of the trails that make up the AT through it. So it could literally cost you $5K & 6 months of federal time incarcerated to hike with your dog in the TN section of the AT thru the GSMNP.
Number one rule:
Leave your damn Bluetooth speaker at home!!!!!
Ps great vids
I feel like you touched a lot of great points. Especially when you brought up, only taking what you need from a trail magic. Some folks can be so greedy. Great video.
Everything you said is basic common sense, some people just don't have it. My peeve is when I'm hiking behind a group and they're talking really loud and even when I pass them I have to hike faster just to get away from them.
How do you suppose you're going to pass people without walking faster than them?
@@russell2952 Your "comment" wasn't helpful. Reetz was saying he she had to walk faster than their normal pace to put some distance between them and the offensive noise.
YES! I had this once with a group of teenagers. I passed them and could still hear them. I tried letting them go ahead of me and they'd go slow. I passed them and pretty much sprinted to try and get away to some peace but they somehow kept up with me.
Thank you Dixie. A trail edict refresher is alway good 😁 I’m so close to starting my thru hike of the AT and just want to say thank you for all of the great info that you have provided! ⛰
I enjoyed the video. I was hoping you could talk about etiquette upon arriving at a campsite, especially with folks that are already there... after hours do you just pitch your tent, do you try to make contact with the people if they are sleeping, do you stay away from them and is there a rule of thumb on how close that you can set up your tent to someone else's tent... there has to be a whole lot of etiquette on how to do this!?
You definitely do not wake people unless you have a medical emergency, don't set your tent close to others unless space is limited.
I backpacked for a long time, from my early 20s to mid/late 20s, a passage of right in 90s UK. I didn't realise I was "backpacking", I quite literally didn't care what anyone thought of me, I had a heavy pack for a while and then it came down to 6kg gradually. I bought clothes and stuff when I landed in another country and gave stuff away as I moved, I was a real Chis McCandless excluding the Akaskan mistake. Most of these rules, the people who break them - apart from the peeing and being rude, I didn't care if you break. Life is too short, there are some colourful characters out there and being almost 46 now, that guy playing music or staying awake all night, the guy being loud...this is all part of my memories.
My rule of thumb is: don't be a dick and remain humble. Don't be stuck up your own arse and remember, there is snobbery in every activity and you can walk away from people as quickly as you meet them.
I just gotta ask girl, how do you do what you do and not swear?! I admire that! I’d be cussin like a cat in a bathtub if I was doing what you donon them trails! Props to you! Seriously! You’re a class act my friend!
Dixie this is among your finest work. Thank you.
"drunker than Cooter Brown..."
You have me in stitches on that statement. (And you're on point on everything else. On one of my day hike trails, there is a noticeable amount of white kleenex tossed aside - probably by a runner - and all I can think of is, "Really?" (And that I need to take sterile gloves next time to collect some and dispose of it properly!) But I have also contacted the conservancy that oversees it (and tends it quite well) and maybe ask them to put up a sign, please dispose of your trash at the trailheads.
Thanks for the reminders!
That's usually a lady pee-pee marker. especially if they are near a tree. Yes use gloves.
Hey, Dixie, I think you forgot to include the LNT link in the description. Super important for all the new folks who come along and find this video. Great job! 😊👍🏽