Thanks for watching! After nearly 8 years of using an extremely minimal backpacking kit, it's time to make some changes and have some fun 🙂 look out later this year for reviews on how this stuff works out
NGL I’m kinda torn because the reason I was a fan & subscriber was because of your hardcore minimalist ethos. Now I’m seeing the same thing as every other hiking RUclipsr. Btw that sleeping pad is so gonna leak. I quit using inflatable ones because they ALL suck. Anyhow good luck with the niceties.😂
@@blueandgreenslacks don't worry, I am still the hardcore minimalist person. Just trying to help people by showing that the way I've done things is not the best way or only way. That there is a whole world of gear, some that may suit them and their style better. While I still enjoy the minimal, light, and fast approach I just want to take a brief intermission.
James, the quality of your videos stand out above many of the other outdoor channels so thank you for keeping it real. I’ve spent more time than I care to admit researching the benefits of using Trekking poles. All legit clinical research points to this: Using a balanced 2 Trekking pole approach reduces the load on your knees, hips, and ankles by 15% and even higher going downhill. Now, extrapolate that out over a day and over an entire trip. You may not realize it because you’re young, but if you want to hike until you are a very old person, 2 trekking poles will help keep your body younger longer. No matter how much weight you carry.
Use your old thin foam pad under your xlite, helps prevent puncture and also sliding around on the DCF of your tent. You can also use your old foam pad for a seat or an afternoon siesta
Hey Jupitor I found several.people using thin foam under there xlite. More were on PCT and close to finishing. Their experience lens itself to mostlikely the perfect combo. I am trying it this yr.
Re: the pots and using the 1100ml as a 2p pot - if you aren't doing so already may I suggest trying to cook your intended hiking meals in them at home as an experiment. I find it's difficult to stir my usual meals in a 500-600ml pot, and that it spills and boils over way too easily. Whereas in a 1200ml pot, even though it's more volume than I strictly need, there's no boiling over and it's easy to stir without my lunch sloshing over the edge and into the dirt. You could think of the extra volume as something like a spill guard more than volume you'd actually use. It's bulkier and heavier, sure, but I find it's a much less miserable cooking experience.
Man! So many significant changes! I'm excited to see your next video where you have some feedback on some of these gear changes! Happy trails, Jupiter!
I go backcountry canoe camping with Salomon Speedcross sandals, 30lbs pack and a 60lbs canoe on rough rocky trail. They have been a game changer for me, I really hope that sandals start making a comeback in the backcountry.
I always appreciate and admire what Jupiter has to say. I have learned more about hiking and many times about life in general (tho I could be his grandpa) than on any other hiking RUclips channel, IG site, Podcast or his blog. Regardless of his suggestions on his new ultra lite kit, you can count on him giving you a straight up evaluation on all of it. And I sure as hell will be listening. • If I was a few years younger I would be ordering that Pa'lante Desert Pack today. Thanks Jupiter. As long as I am around, I will be a huge fan.
Umbrellas can be great to have and really make a difference. Something I've discovered is tasty variations on the theme of easy chia seed puddings. So simple. No cooking. I like having a serving saver to make it in and eat it from. Some polypropylene containers are super easy to clean. Just add a little water, shake vigorously and drink. Repeat if necessary. Quick, easy and no wastage. There are all kinds of things you can add in addition to or besides chia seeds. Raisins and dried blueberries, among many other things. The sky's the limit.
I flip I flop. Some days I use my stove for brfst or dining most days cold soak. Some days I don't blow up my pad and some I do. "I read the room". It's warm out, it's soft ground. Enjoy the stars instead...
Was using my Nemo Tensor pad to sleep at my brother's house. His kitten attacked it and cut a 1" slit in the pad with her claws. I thought that was it, but with the patch kit that's included in the pad case, was able to easily repair it and have been using it for camping and backpacking for a couple of years after now. And for comfort I'd rate it as comfortable as my bed in my house.
I got a vargo 750 bot. I like a lot. The only thing I did was put the lid on a lathe and cut (very very carefully) the bottom lip so it doesn't collect yuck. It is outward to keep clean when you can't see the inside.
I’m a hiker and use the brs3000 stove. I’m also a Hvac technician for the past 23 years. I can say the brs stove is absolutely safe. The only thing you need to make sure is, you don’t loose the o-ring in the bottom of the stove where is screws on to the fuel canister.
BRS mini is amazing. If youre skittish about lighting it, light a twig, then use the twig to light your stove. It's great. Just let the little bastard cool down before you grab it after cooking.
You have a brilliant way of presenting information clearly! You always give so much info in your videos yet somehow it's easy for me to follow. Love your gear discussions and tips, your videos always brighten my day!
7:50 I have a snow peak titanium stove like that. They are definitely enough for use using 1 liter or less. I have heard about the arms giving way when people have tried to use larger pots (for groups of people).
It’s so funny how things have changed. I started backpacking in the late 80s and we didn’t think anything of a 60 pound pack! I love all the lighter gear but I also like comfort, those UL packs kill me! We started with the clunky half body Thermarest pads, now my favorite of all the 3 season pads is the same one you have. I’ve never had a blow up pad leak or pop. I do carry a patch but have never had to use it! Great review of your new stuff!
The BRS stove is epic. Definitely trustworthy. Only issue is that you need a wind guard if there’s anything more than a light breeze. But it fits into pretty much any space
Word of advice for the thermarest- make sure you have one that supports your elbows if you are even a little bit of a back sleeper. I had standard width for a while, and finally went to the wider one for the elbows- the difference is “night and day” (so to speak)
I absolutely love all of these "upgrades." Also I'm laughing because this kind of "ultralight" is where I am now, but I started at the opposite end of the spectrum from you with my dependable osprey and 3 pound Big Agnes. It's like watching you rediscover comfort and I love it. I thru hiked the AT with the Neoair, and also put an additional 300+ miles on it afterwards. Plan to take the very same pad on the PCT in March. As long as you don't deliberately put it on top of a pinecone or a protruding stick, you'll be fine. Obviously carry a bit of repair tape just in case, but I foresee many wonderful nights of sleep in your fully enclosed tent future.
Hey Jupiter, I think your experience with proper campsite selection will ensure that you have no issues with the XLite. I've been using it for several years and had no problems with it, and the only person I know who did pop one was cowboy camping with no groundsheet on some rocky ground. Even then, to fix it you just clean off the puncture site and slap some tenacious tape on it. Looking forward to see what you get up to this year!
I've had issues with thermarest pads delaminating. Their warranty is great but dealing with returns and shit during a through hike is a huge pain in the ass.
I've had the OR Sun Hoody for a few years now and absolutely love it. Have it in 3 colors now (not very minimalist of me, I know) for rotating between cycling, hiking, and the gym . All held up very well!
I'm just thinking back to your video where two UL hikers meet on the trail. He's going to be giving you some major side-eye, lol. No, this is cool. I'm super excited to see your new gear in action and to see if you'll like it versus your minimalistic kit.
I love my Echo Sun Hoody and it held up great on the AT and talk about branches lol. I've been using the Echo for some time now and wouldn't trade it for anything
Hey Jupiter, really enjoyed the echo hoodie last year on the PCT. Lasted from KMS to the end, only sustained a few small casualties and I'm still wearing it, great piece of gear!
Great to see how popular and relatable your changes are to many judging by the comments! I'm at about 4.5kg/10lb baseweight and it's a happy medium of comfort vs lightness vs efficiency. I use a Macpac Nitro hoodie-very light and breathable, turns into a puffer jacket when I put my outer layer over it- not sure if you can get it in the states, but maybe you know someone over here(nz) who could send you one.. You could make your stoves more efficient by getting a windscreen. Check out the Ocelot ones by Flatcatgear- he makes ones for both your stoves.
I wear bedrocks for summer hiking and originally I had the 3D model but they gave me blisters! I moved to the basic model and that solved the issue! Now I hike in them whenever I can!
I really appreciate you trying a variety of different gear. We're all different and shouldn't just follow the crowd in what we pick; you are wise to judge for yourself!
Looooove my Mesa Trails! About 200 miles in and they’re just more comfortable. Mostly CT miles so they’ve stayed dry and can’t speak to wear and tear from that. Just more comfortable every time I wear them. Was already well transition to barefoot shoes- those considering a switch please know you need to grow gradually. I didn’t the first time years ago and it took me years to fully recover from thinking I didn’t need the gradual transition normal people do 🫣
Watching this thinking this must be one of your spoof videos - stove, tent, sleeping pad. What is happening in the world?! 😂 I applaud the trekking pole!
Durable, but isn't sold in some countries as they don't meet the basic safety regulations/standards (Australia for example) so the concern about dealing with that + gas is justified lol
Nice. I've been enjoying the OR Echo hoodie paired with the Senchi Design Wren fleece. I really like the Polartec Alpha material. Only 3.4oz. I love the Xero Mesa Trail too. I'm hoping to go a bit lighter on some trips so I can use them. I usually carry a fairly heavy load so it takes a toll on my feet when backpacking with barefoot style shoes. I'll use Lone Peaks when carrying more than 20lbs or so.
The neo air pad and echo hoodie are surprisingly durable :) I think you'll appreciate your gear choices on your upcoming hikes, a fully enclosed tent won't be too much in 12h thunderstorms and mosquito swarms!
You have a lot of experience and a great eye for function and detail. I think it's a great idea for you to apply those skills for the benefit of others, giving insights and observations about gear that maybe more folks are looking at then just us ul'ers. I also really appreciate that you're encouraging people to develop themselves as backpackers, and not be afraid to stray from a popular loadout or methodology. You're just getting better and better mang.
So excited to see you using Bedrock sandals! I started using them as my trail runners last year and think they will be the perfect backpacking “shoe” for me. I wasn’t a huge fan of the Xero mesa trails. I’m guessing i got 500 good miles out of them, but they killed my feet on the AZT this year. Sent them home after 250 miles.
I have three pair of Xero shoes and I have to say I love them. I’ve hiked in the sandals and Mesa and run in the Mesa and HFS and they are the most comfortable and versatile I’ve ever worn.
ALWAYS interested in new gear and opinions on it. BTW, Evan, of Evan's Backpacking Videos, hiked the AT in sandals. I think he hikes exclusively in them. Great channel.
You need to get the Outdoor Research Radar pocket cap. If you wear that with the OR sun hoodie you can put the hood up and it fits just over the front of the cap and funnels air all around your face and neck and keeps yourself cool while the sun beats Down on you.
@@JupiterHikes To that end, do you think your daily mileage will be reduced at all? Or do you think the ~4 extra pounds will have a negligible impact, or at least one you just get used to?
Ive used that snowpeak stove for about 10 years now with no issues. I know the brs is cheap and easy to replace but its piece of mind in the end for me
Thanks for your insight. Its interesting to see how your gear needs evolve and I also appreciate how you take into consideration on what will keep your viewers safe.
Wow! Eight years and 11,000+ miles, Jupiter's finishing puberty. Did anyone else feel a shift in the space/time continuum? Just kidding, Jupiter. As always, your videos are informative, entertaining, and inspiring. Yes, you will find the pole useful. When you pop your air mattress, make sure you clean and dry the area where the patch tape needs to go! Always following you, man. :>)
The Xero mesa shoes are great. I only had a issue with my insole sliding and bunching up in shoe. So had to ditch them on my thru hike of the Ouachita trail. As far as durability I only developed a small tear on the mesh of one shoe at 200 miles. They are still totally usable though and was impressed how well they held up to all the rocks, mud, and water crossings. Like you said they can be tough on the feet. I strongly recommend wearing minimalist shoes daily to build up feet strength to cope with rugged trails that will punish your feet. I also find minimalst shoes provide more stability on rock scrambles since feet can move to grab them. I plan on using them on my Colorado trail thru hike but will look into how I can better hold my insoles in place.
Echo shirt fabric should hold up reasonably well. My shirt and Patty lightweight going strong after 6/7 years. I found the sun hoody too warm without a way to vent at the neck so I use a long sleeve zip neck version. I’ve been eying that Palante 41l version as well. Good luck with your trials with the new gear!
I used some similar gear this year on the Florida Trail. I used the uberlite torso over the 1/8” foam full length. As a commenter earlier mentioned, it helps to have the foam underneath as protection and slip resistance. I went through two uberlites as both developed leaks. That new valve is problematic with the uberlite material getting weakened with the internal structure at the corners. Not sure how fragile the one you are using is. Put some type a tape on all four corners of the valve assembly before you go. Finding a bathtub can mean using a leaking pad for two weeks. Ask me how i know ;) Love love the ZPacks tents. I used the regular plex and loved it even in humid Florida. Make sure the edge netting is pointing down in rain or water will run down the netting and make the bathtub floor a real bathtub. Don’t count on being able to get the small canisters in most places. I just use the large ones now so i don’t have to change up the way i pack mid hike. I hate the large ones, but they are easier to find and last over a month. I was going through small ones every two weeks on the PCT and was packing multiples just to make canister resupply distances. It sucked.
KUIU came out with a lightweight wool hoodie 120 fabric. Doesn't have thumb holes, but very light and comfortable. And because it's merino wool it won't stink. One word of caution on the OR Echo Hoodie - the SPF rating is low for that hoodie (I own several of them). If you're out in direct sunlight, you can still get sun burnt with the Echo Hoodie. Try a sternum pack instead. I used to use a fanny pack, but had some issues: I found it bounced around quite a bit. If I synched it down tight to prevent the bouncing, I'd get chafing and/or stomach bowel issues. I switched over to a sternum pack. It's like a fanny pack buck fits across your chest using your sternum strap. I'm using the Hyperlite Mountain Gear Vice Versa and really, really, like it. I'll never go back to a fanny pack. Wow Jupiter goes comfort! Didn't think I'd ever see it. Good for you. Funny how you've swung to more comfort vs ultralight weight savings. I did the same. Started hiking with heavier equipment, swung ultralight, then slowly reintroduced some comfort items. I've been like a pendulum going back and forth dialing in my system.
Oh man. You went from one extreme of sleeping mat to the other. I'm very curious to know how the neo-air works out for you. I've used both sorts for years and haven't yet had an inflatable pad that hasn't developed a leak. The Therm-a-Rest Zlite SOL is a very happy middling option I find. I usually cut off a couple of panels to save weight and reduce pack size.
I am really digging this new style and "testing" the waters of gear, your thoughts on gear are generally different than the way that I see others post. I am a huge fan of the BRS stove and really hope that you grow to trust it.
Wow! Way to shake things up! Your UL philosophy has given new trail years to my aging back - thank you. I look forward to your upcoming videos and reviews of these new items. Your videos are always creative, informative, and inspiring.
The Mesa Trails are awesome! Just make sure you do enough barefoot/minimal walking before jumping straight in with them. I did most of the Colorado Trail in Mesa Trails, and they held up great. To everyone else, the Mesa Trail II are even better! The rubber compound seems a bit more durable, and the weld overlays protect those weaker points in the shoe. I 100% advise the Mesa Trails over the Terraflex. They're awesome
Hi Jupiter, once again a very sympathetic video from you! I hope of course not that you lose your sunglasses again but if it should happen again you can probably create a similar model from a cheap pair of sunglasses. By shortening your sunglasses arm like your toothbrush, you can attach a bungee cord to the remaining piece of the arm. You can drill a small hole on both sides or file a kind of groove to tie the bungee cord into the remaining piece of the sunglasses. Regards from Germany! Patrick
I tried minimalist shoes and they were great (loved feel of the trail) up to 30 miles over 2 days. They failed when I went to 20 miles/day for more than 4 days. And by failed, I meant my feet hurt so bad it took me 2 weeks to recover after 9 days of hiking a section. I had spent 1.5 years getting used to them.
You know, a lot of people keep the ccf 1/8 inch pad to put under their blow up, for added protection and a small amount of r value. Also stops it from sliding around
wouldn't be surprised if the neoair outlasts all the other gear, I've had mine for about ten years, and it only started leaking at the valve because the glue came undone. easy fix, pop the valve out, scrape off the old glue flakes, put on some new glue and slap it back in. the one thing that could cause an issue is the lower production quality that all brands have suffered from during covid, mainly those that do shoes & gear, less so the clothing brands. I work in a hiking store and I've seen a remarkable uptick in production faults since covid. one can only hope now it's over that the normal quality levels are back again.
Thanks for watching! After nearly 8 years of using an extremely minimal backpacking kit, it's time to make some changes and have some fun 🙂 look out later this year for reviews on how this stuff works out
NGL I’m kinda torn because the reason I was a fan & subscriber was because of your hardcore minimalist ethos. Now I’m seeing the same thing as every other hiking RUclipsr. Btw that sleeping pad is so gonna leak. I quit using inflatable ones because they ALL suck. Anyhow good luck with the niceties.😂
@@blueandgreenslacks don't worry, I am still the hardcore minimalist person. Just trying to help people by showing that the way I've done things is not the best way or only way. That there is a whole world of gear, some that may suit them and their style better. While I still enjoy the minimal, light, and fast approach I just want to take a brief intermission.
@@JupiterHikes I like the new, more comfortable style :) Its still pretty hardcore btw.
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James, the quality of your videos stand out above many of the other outdoor channels so thank you for keeping it real.
I’ve spent more time than I care to admit researching the benefits of using Trekking poles. All legit clinical research points to this: Using a balanced 2 Trekking pole approach reduces the load on your knees, hips, and ankles by 15% and even higher going downhill. Now, extrapolate that out over a day and over an entire trip. You may not realize it because you’re young, but if you want to hike until you are a very old person, 2 trekking poles will help keep your body younger longer. No matter how much weight you carry.
How do you say you're getting older without saying you're getting older? Lol! We love the new changes, Jupiter! Keep up the great work!
Use your old thin foam pad under your xlite, helps prevent puncture and also sliding around on the DCF of your tent. You can also use your old foam pad for a seat or an afternoon siesta
Hey Jupitor I found several.people using thin foam under there xlite. More were on PCT and close to finishing. Their experience lens itself to mostlikely the perfect combo. I am trying it this yr.
Plus 1 on this comment. That’s what I do, and the foam pad is a great sit pad during the day.
Also useful to stand on to keep feet clean after ridding them if mud, wet sand etc, when everything else around is wet and muddy.
Some thin stripes of diluted silicone can make for a grippier surface also, FWIW.
Re: the pots and using the 1100ml as a 2p pot - if you aren't doing so already may I suggest trying to cook your intended hiking meals in them at home as an experiment. I find it's difficult to stir my usual meals in a 500-600ml pot, and that it spills and boils over way too easily. Whereas in a 1200ml pot, even though it's more volume than I strictly need, there's no boiling over and it's easy to stir without my lunch sloshing over the edge and into the dirt. You could think of the extra volume as something like a spill guard more than volume you'd actually use. It's bulkier and heavier, sure, but I find it's a much less miserable cooking experience.
Man! So many significant changes! I'm excited to see your next video where you have some feedback on some of these gear changes! Happy trails, Jupiter!
I go backcountry canoe camping with Salomon Speedcross sandals, 30lbs pack and a 60lbs canoe on rough rocky trail. They have been a game changer for me, I really hope that sandals start making a comeback in the backcountry.
Wow, 2023 just keeps getting crazier! Awesome to see you switching up some gear!
I always appreciate and admire what Jupiter has to say. I have learned more about hiking and many times about life in general (tho I could be his grandpa) than on any other hiking RUclips channel, IG site, Podcast or his blog.
Regardless of his suggestions on his new ultra lite kit, you can count on him giving you a straight up evaluation on all of it. And I sure as hell will be listening.
• If I was a few years younger I would be ordering that Pa'lante Desert Pack today.
Thanks Jupiter. As long as I am around, I will be a huge fan.
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Umbrellas can be great to have and really make a difference.
Something I've discovered is tasty variations on the theme of easy chia seed puddings. So simple. No cooking. I like having a serving saver to make it in and eat it from. Some polypropylene containers are super easy to clean. Just add a little water, shake vigorously and drink. Repeat if necessary. Quick, easy and no wastage.
There are all kinds of things you can add in addition to or besides chia seeds. Raisins and dried blueberries, among many other things. The sky's the limit.
Great Idea! Can't wait to see how those work for you 🙂 PS - The BRS stove has never given me any grief over years of use 👌. Enjoy the air mattress!!!
truth. not sure why something that's cheap equates to worry. seems like unnecessary fear mongering, maybe because it's made in china?
I’ve been using my BRS3000t for 12 years and it’s as good as it was when I first got it. Zero complaints.
It only scared the piss outta me once. Not sure if it was elevation or just a bad can/seal. Straight flame thrower
I saw that Desert Pack as soon as the video started. Love that pack!
I flip I flop. Some days I use my stove for brfst or dining most days cold soak. Some days I don't blow up my pad and some I do. "I read the room". It's warm out, it's soft ground. Enjoy the stars instead...
The time has finally come where you aren't cold soaking anymore?! Loving this growth and venturing out of your comfort zone! :D
Was using my Nemo Tensor pad to sleep at my brother's house. His kitten attacked it and cut a 1" slit in the pad with her claws. I thought that was it, but with the patch kit that's included in the pad case, was able to easily repair it and have been using it for camping and backpacking for a couple of years after now. And for comfort I'd rate it as comfortable as my bed in my house.
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Mary Poppins😁. umbrellas are awesome.
Thanks for doing the gear review. It’s very helpful for those of us trying to drop some weight.
Wow these are some big changes. I look forward to hearing about your travels with them.
Thanks, looking forward to the update on these open end themes.
I got a vargo 750 bot. I like a lot. The only thing I did was put the lid on a lathe and cut (very very carefully) the bottom lip so it doesn't collect yuck. It is outward to keep clean when you can't see the inside.
Wow!.
... I'm shocked..🙂, Big changes for the minimalist, Always enjoy watching your videos
I’m a hiker and use the brs3000 stove. I’m also a Hvac technician for the past 23 years. I can say the brs stove is absolutely safe. The only thing you need to make sure is, you don’t loose the o-ring in the bottom of the stove where is screws on to the fuel canister.
BRS mini is amazing. If youre skittish about lighting it, light a twig, then use the twig to light your stove. It's great. Just let the little bastard cool down before you grab it after cooking.
You have a brilliant way of presenting information clearly! You always give so much info in your videos yet somehow it's easy for me to follow. Love your gear discussions and tips, your videos always brighten my day!
7:50 I have a snow peak titanium stove like that. They are definitely enough for use using 1 liter or less. I have heard about the arms giving way when people have tried to use larger pots (for groups of people).
I would be lying if I thought you looked comfortable with some of these changes but from a viewers standpoint, this will be fun to watch!
It’s so funny how things have changed. I started backpacking in the late 80s and we didn’t think anything of a 60 pound pack! I love all the lighter gear but I also like comfort, those UL packs kill me! We started with the clunky half body Thermarest pads, now my favorite of all the 3 season pads is the same one you have. I’ve never had a blow up pad leak or pop. I do carry a patch but have never had to use it! Great review of your new stuff!
Wow, big changes Jupiter. Welcome to the world of ultralight comfort; glad to have you. Ha. Keep the great content coming.
The BRS stove is epic. Definitely trustworthy. Only issue is that you need a wind guard if there’s anything more than a light breeze. But it fits into pretty much any space
Agree. It’s inexpensive, performs very well but a breeze and you’ve a long wait for boiling water
Word of advice for the thermarest- make sure you have one that supports your elbows if you are even a little bit of a back sleeper. I had standard width for a while, and finally went to the wider one for the elbows- the difference is “night and day” (so to speak)
I absolutely love all of these "upgrades." Also I'm laughing because this kind of "ultralight" is where I am now, but I started at the opposite end of the spectrum from you with my dependable osprey and 3 pound Big Agnes. It's like watching you rediscover comfort and I love it.
I thru hiked the AT with the Neoair, and also put an additional 300+ miles on it afterwards. Plan to take the very same pad on the PCT in March. As long as you don't deliberately put it on top of a pinecone or a protruding stick, you'll be fine. Obviously carry a bit of repair tape just in case, but I foresee many wonderful nights of sleep in your fully enclosed tent future.
Hey Jupiter,
I think your experience with proper campsite selection will ensure that you have no issues with the XLite. I've been using it for several years and had no problems with it, and the only person I know who did pop one was cowboy camping with no groundsheet on some rocky ground. Even then, to fix it you just clean off the puncture site and slap some tenacious tape on it.
Looking forward to see what you get up to this year!
I've had issues with thermarest pads delaminating. Their warranty is great but dealing with returns and shit during a through hike is a huge pain in the ass.
I've had the OR Sun Hoody for a few years now and absolutely love it. Have it in 3 colors now (not very minimalist of me, I know) for rotating between cycling, hiking, and the gym . All held up very well!
I've been wearing the OR Echo sun hoodie a couple years and it's been fantastic.
Keep the thinlite pad for use under your Neoair pad. I've got 4k miles on my combo without any leaks.
I'm just thinking back to your video where two UL hikers meet on the trail. He's going to be giving you some major side-eye, lol. No, this is cool. I'm super excited to see your new gear in action and to see if you'll like it versus your minimalistic kit.
I love my Echo Sun Hoody and it held up great on the AT and talk about branches lol. I've been using the Echo for some time now and wouldn't trade it for anything
Try a wide version of the Xlite alongside the normal, and see what you sleep better with.
Hey Jupiter, really enjoyed the echo hoodie last year on the PCT. Lasted from KMS to the end, only sustained a few small casualties and I'm still wearing it, great piece of gear!
Great idea! Thanks for doing this.
Great to see how popular and relatable your changes are to many judging by the comments! I'm at about 4.5kg/10lb baseweight and it's a happy medium of comfort vs lightness vs efficiency.
I use a Macpac Nitro hoodie-very light and breathable, turns into a puffer jacket when I put my outer layer over it- not sure if you can get it in the states, but maybe you know someone over here(nz) who could send you one..
You could make your stoves more efficient by getting a windscreen. Check out the Ocelot ones by Flatcatgear- he makes ones for both your stoves.
Excellent recommendations
I wear bedrocks for summer hiking and originally I had the 3D model but they gave me blisters! I moved to the basic model and that solved the issue! Now I hike in them whenever I can!
Looks like nice choices you’re starting to get normal, time to respect the body thanks for your videos they’re great.
I really appreciate you trying a variety of different gear. We're all different and shouldn't just follow the crowd in what we pick; you are wise to judge for yourself!
It is always fun to try new things and I know this community values your opinions!
Looooove my Mesa Trails! About 200 miles in and they’re just more comfortable. Mostly CT miles so they’ve stayed dry and can’t speak to wear and tear from that. Just more comfortable every time I wear them. Was already well transition to barefoot shoes- those considering a switch please know you need to grow gradually. I didn’t the first time years ago and it took me years to fully recover from thinking I didn’t need the gradual transition normal people do 🫣
Oh snap… Jupiter embracing some comfort on trail 🤭😎
Watching this thinking this must be one of your spoof videos - stove, tent, sleeping pad. What is happening in the world?! 😂 I applaud the trekking pole!
Awesome! Can't wait to hear how you like glamping ! Lol!
Thanks for sharing man - Ranger
I think you'll really dig the BRS man. It's more durable than initial impressions make it out to be.
Durable, but isn't sold in some countries as they don't meet the basic safety regulations/standards (Australia for example) so the concern about dealing with that + gas is justified lol
Nice. I've been enjoying the OR Echo hoodie paired with the Senchi Design Wren fleece. I really like the Polartec Alpha material. Only 3.4oz. I love the Xero Mesa Trail too. I'm hoping to go a bit lighter on some trips so I can use them. I usually carry a fairly heavy load so it takes a toll on my feet when backpacking with barefoot style shoes. I'll use Lone Peaks when carrying more than 20lbs or so.
Trekking poles were an unexpected game-changer for me. I can hike further, safer, with more balance, and greater certainty.
I usually carry one on my backpack unless needed. Two? Most I see carried are simply curb feelers for me. But that is certainly JUST ME.
The neo air pad and echo hoodie are surprisingly durable :) I think you'll appreciate your gear choices on your upcoming hikes, a fully enclosed tent won't be too much in 12h thunderstorms and mosquito swarms!
2nd the durability of the Echo Sun hoodie..very good piece of kit
You have a lot of experience and a great eye for function and detail. I think it's a great idea for you to apply those skills for the benefit of others, giving insights and observations about gear that maybe more folks are looking at then just us ul'ers. I also really appreciate that you're encouraging people to develop themselves as backpackers, and not be afraid to stray from a popular loadout or methodology. You're just getting better and better mang.
Mad mega experience he has.❤️
looks like your going to be a lot comfier! and its still pretty darn light!
I love my Altaplex. I'm 6'2" and have room enough to put my gear inside. Hope you enjoy that one!
I love my Xero Terra Flex II. I did buy some flat insoles for a little more cushion. I've hiked a couple times a week with them for over a year now.
So excited to see you using Bedrock sandals! I started using them as my trail runners last year and think they will be the perfect backpacking “shoe” for me. I wasn’t a huge fan of the Xero mesa trails. I’m guessing i got 500 good miles out of them, but they killed my feet on the AZT this year. Sent them home after 250 miles.
Bedrocks are the BEST
I have three pair of Xero shoes and I have to say I love them. I’ve hiked in the sandals and Mesa and run in the Mesa and HFS and they are the most comfortable and versatile I’ve ever worn.
This is going to be so interesting! Can not wait to see what you think about your new gear. So excited. Really.
I love my brs stove! Used it for years. In temps under 15 degrees you’d better have cold weather fuel but other than that no issues whatsoever!
ALWAYS interested in new gear and opinions on it.
BTW, Evan, of Evan's Backpacking Videos, hiked the AT in sandals. I think he hikes exclusively in them. Great channel.
Evan is awesome!!
@@JupiterHikes Re: Evan. His videos right in the same ball-park as you and John-Z
You need to get the Outdoor Research Radar pocket cap. If you wear that with the OR sun hoodie you can put the hood up and it fits just over the front of the cap and funnels air all around your face and neck and keeps yourself cool while the sun beats Down on you.
This video made me smile so hard! Happy hiking season 2023!!!
these are some very noble sacrifices to be making at the expense of your base weight :) enjoy the relative comfort!
Maybe the better sleep at night will allow my subsequently sore shoulders recover faster in a weird base weight time loop
@@JupiterHikes To that end, do you think your daily mileage will be reduced at all? Or do you think the ~4 extra pounds will have a negligible impact, or at least one you just get used to?
@@beauwilliams3445 I won't know, the trails I'm doing this year are much harder than something like the pct
Ive used that snowpeak stove for about 10 years now with no issues. I know the brs is cheap and easy to replace but its piece of mind in the end for me
A hot meal, a great nights rest, and no more sleeping with the bugs!
Jupiter carrying MORE stuff?! I thought this was an April Fool’s video until I double-checked the date!
Thanks for your insight. Its interesting to see how your gear needs evolve and I also appreciate how you take into consideration on what will keep your viewers safe.
I love that you're willing to try new things! Great video!
Awesome gear changes and opening your mind to be willing to try other type of gear to share with all of us . Happy trails
Wow! Eight years and 11,000+ miles, Jupiter's finishing puberty. Did anyone else feel a shift in the space/time continuum? Just kidding, Jupiter. As always, your videos are informative, entertaining, and inspiring. Yes, you will find the pole useful. When you pop your air mattress, make sure you clean and dry the area where the patch tape needs to go! Always following you, man. :>)
The Xero mesa shoes are great. I only had a issue with my insole sliding and bunching up in shoe. So had to ditch them on my thru hike of the Ouachita trail. As far as durability I only developed a small tear on the mesh of one shoe at 200 miles. They are still totally usable though and was impressed how well they held up to all the rocks, mud, and water crossings. Like you said they can be tough on the feet. I strongly recommend wearing minimalist shoes daily to build up feet strength to cope with rugged trails that will punish your feet. I also find minimalst shoes provide more stability on rock scrambles since feet can move to grab them. I plan on using them on my Colorado trail thru hike but will look into how I can better hold my insoles in place.
A tent!? An inflatable pad?!Oh my! Congratulations on your Melly. Great video.
Echo shirt fabric should hold up reasonably well. My shirt and Patty lightweight going strong after 6/7 years. I found the sun hoody too warm without a way to vent at the neck so I use a long sleeve zip neck version. I’ve been eying that Palante 41l version as well. Good luck with your trials with the new gear!
I used some similar gear this year on the Florida Trail. I used the uberlite torso over the 1/8” foam full length. As a commenter earlier mentioned, it helps to have the foam underneath as protection and slip resistance. I went through two uberlites as both developed leaks. That new valve is problematic with the uberlite material getting weakened with the internal structure at the corners. Not sure how fragile the one you are using is. Put some type a tape on all four corners of the valve assembly before you go. Finding a bathtub can mean using a leaking pad for two weeks. Ask me how i know ;) Love love the ZPacks tents. I used the regular plex and loved it even in humid Florida. Make sure the edge netting is pointing down in rain or water will run down the netting and make the bathtub floor a real bathtub. Don’t count on being able to get the small canisters in most places. I just use the large ones now so i don’t have to change up the way i pack mid hike. I hate the large ones, but they are easier to find and last over a month. I was going through small ones every two weeks on the PCT and was packing multiples just to make canister resupply distances. It sucked.
I’ve patched my thermarest with a bandaide and it held up for a very long time. Still works
Hopefully its the wide version of that pad!! 20 inch wide sucks.. 25 inch much better!
Thanks Jupiter. Always fun interesting content.
KUIU came out with a lightweight wool hoodie 120 fabric. Doesn't have thumb holes, but very light and comfortable. And because it's merino wool it won't stink. One word of caution on the OR Echo Hoodie - the SPF rating is low for that hoodie (I own several of them). If you're out in direct sunlight, you can still get sun burnt with the Echo Hoodie.
Try a sternum pack instead. I used to use a fanny pack, but had some issues: I found it bounced around quite a bit. If I synched it down tight to prevent the bouncing, I'd get chafing and/or stomach bowel issues. I switched over to a sternum pack. It's like a fanny pack buck fits across your chest using your sternum strap. I'm using the Hyperlite Mountain Gear Vice Versa and really, really, like it. I'll never go back to a fanny pack.
Wow Jupiter goes comfort! Didn't think I'd ever see it. Good for you. Funny how you've swung to more comfort vs ultralight weight savings. I did the same. Started hiking with heavier equipment, swung ultralight, then slowly reintroduced some comfort items. I've been like a pendulum going back and forth dialing in my system.
Oh man. You went from one extreme of sleeping mat to the other. I'm very curious to know how the neo-air works out for you. I've used both sorts for years and haven't yet had an inflatable pad that hasn't developed a leak. The Therm-a-Rest Zlite SOL is a very happy middling option I find. I usually cut off a couple of panels to save weight and reduce pack size.
I am really digging this new style and "testing" the waters of gear, your thoughts on gear are generally different than the way that I see others post. I am a huge fan of the BRS stove and really hope that you grow to trust it.
Wow! Way to shake things up! Your UL philosophy has given new trail years to my aging back - thank you. I look forward to your upcoming videos and reviews of these new items. Your videos are always creative, informative, and inspiring.
Cool! Enjoy being a regular ultralight person for a while. :)
The Mesa Trails are awesome! Just make sure you do enough barefoot/minimal walking before jumping straight in with them. I did most of the Colorado Trail in Mesa Trails, and they held up great. To everyone else, the Mesa Trail II are even better! The rubber compound seems a bit more durable, and the weld overlays protect those weaker points in the shoe.
I 100% advise the Mesa Trails over the Terraflex.
They're awesome
Don't worry about BRS stove it works just fine. Also air mattress is OK, I have mine for 8 years now without any puncture.
Hi Jupiter, once again a very sympathetic video from you! I hope of course not that you lose your sunglasses again but if it should happen again you can probably create a similar model from a cheap pair of sunglasses. By shortening your sunglasses arm like your toothbrush, you can attach a bungee cord to the remaining piece of the arm. You can drill a small hole on both sides or file a kind of groove to tie the bungee cord into the remaining piece of the sunglasses. Regards from Germany! Patrick
The Melanzana is my fav I love mine. Even more than my R1
I tried minimalist shoes and they were great (loved feel of the trail) up to 30 miles over 2 days. They failed when I went to 20 miles/day for more than 4 days. And by failed, I meant my feet hurt so bad it took me 2 weeks to recover after 9 days of hiking a section. I had spent 1.5 years getting used to them.
I have the OR sun hoodie and it's survived the Aussie bush.
From hiking to mtn biking.
Good luck on your next thru hike
Cheryl Jupiter Strayed
You know, a lot of people keep the ccf 1/8 inch pad to put under their blow up, for added protection and a small amount of r value. Also stops it from sliding around
Put the thin sleep pad under a slightly under-inflated Neo.
I got the toaks 110 ml pot. I share it with another person on our back packing trips. No problem. :)
That is great to hear! I am mildly concerned about the ravenous hunger and if the one pot would create contention
wouldn't be surprised if the neoair outlasts all the other gear, I've had mine for about ten years, and it only started leaking at the valve because the glue came undone. easy fix, pop the valve out, scrape off the old glue flakes, put on some new glue and slap it back in.
the one thing that could cause an issue is the lower production quality that all brands have suffered from during covid, mainly those that do shoes & gear, less so the clothing brands.
I work in a hiking store and I've seen a remarkable uptick in production faults since covid. one can only hope now it's over that the normal quality levels are back again.
Tent? Thermarest? Cooking food? You starting to feel your age? 😉 Thanks for uploading, Jupiter.
Don't be afraid of the BRS. We have used it on the PCT and many other hikes with an Evernew 1.1L pot. Same BRS since 2017.
Wow, great video! Can't wait to upgrade my gear for my next backpacking trip.
I’ll take just about anything with a self ignition (piozzo?) over brs.