No One Ever Talks About Bruce Lee's FIRST Kung Fu Teacher
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2022
- Bruce Lee's First Kung Fu Teacher was not Yip Man.
What I'm saying is that when Bruce Lee started learning Wing Chun Kung Fu from Yip Man, he had already been studying kungfu with someone else.
Now some Bruce Lee fans say that Bruce Lee's first art was Taijiquan, and I talked about this in a previous video about Bruce Lee's long history with Taiji, but I'm not talking about Taiji either -- Bruce studied some other kungfu when he was younger, and I think knowing this about Bruce Lee could shed some light on some of the things Bruce looked to accomplish and why he left such a lasting impression on the world after he passed at the early age of 32
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My uncle had the privilege of being the only Hispanic mexican african american to train with Wong Shun Leung in private and leave america to teach in england, My uncle also was taught by Bow sim mak who is donnie yens mom and a Gung Fu genius. My whole family are mma martial artists, I specialised in Brazilian jujitsu, Muay thai and karambit knife fighting, and small circle jujitsu, And pressure point strikes from techniques from my mother who is a pencak silat expert. My uncle has pictures of him with Wong Shun Leung aka The King of Talking hands, doing sticky hands, And pictures with Bow sim mak and her other top students. Alot of people forget that the most vicious techniques taught to Bruce lee were from Shifu Wong.
A bit off track but what's the name of the Won Fe Hung film. I think he's portrayed as just a kid in, IRON MONKEY with him as Donny Yens son. I almost studied with Dan Inasanto at his Marina Del Rey dojo because my cousin was but girls, surfing and street racing got in the way lol.
No incorrect Bruce Lee master the form he demonstrated in 1964-65 screen test those forms were the Crane and Tiger. Lee master the Crane form, Tiger, Praying Mantis art from his Father Lee Hoi. Bruce Lee Hung Ga is GUNG FU WING CHUN it the southern Long fist art, Understand Bruce Lee learn the traditional Kung Fu Lee Hoi master Hung Ga and Tai Chi in China they don’t Use paper or certificates to verify their Mastery because some Techniques are Non Valid meaning Missing art or Technique from the art itself or Miss Student names due to Individual removal or Learned from Unknown Sifu therefore Not Validated. I’d know Kung Fu I’ve read, met Dan Inosanto students and Study Chinese art for long period of time. Bruce Lee (Lee Jun Fun) Lee learn from both those men legally but even though Bruce learned it he didn’t like to use it much not because he had a fight lost it was because it was Forbidden. In China 1900s-60s it was Illegal to Teach or Demonstrate Kung Fu especially learning under top Schools. Since Bruce Lee learned Gung fu from Ip Man his True Master of all Art, Bruce Lee was not allowed to revealed until he was in danger of any kind of fight. Lee even stated that his parents put him in Gung Fu Ip man class at early age 8yrs old he was private student yes later Ip Man stop only because Bruce Lee master the art his black sash or Obi most Kung fu master tell students quit teaching it doesn’t mean wrongly it mean you master it now you can train on your own son or little one. Ip man was old and already passing very soon Lee only had 5 art mastery’s therefore he was a young Sifu even though some accusations aren’t accounted for Goldenbell remember Chinese customs aren’t the same as our pathetic American martial art systems. A Sifu can say in 3yrs you already master or expert a person don’t need a Belt or Piece of paper in China 🇨🇳 martial art mastery’s are Held in competition or street fights or challenge your own Sifu in a Dual even if you lose in Chinese language we say 你没有输
Nǐ méiyǒu shū it’s means you lost to your self. You still a master of the art or expert just train more Never quit. Bruce Lee master the Hung Ga art the Gung Fu he has fencing and boxing so he decided to make Jeet Kune Do Not because of any fight Bruce himself said two reasons One for Cardiovascular and flexibility for more room to intercept my opponent. He defeated Wong Jackman a Shaolin top student but Remember Bruce Lee won because Lee had More Strength training from Gung Fu his body formation was more Steel like so when Wong try to hit Bruce; we’ll I’ve met Wong Jackman student for typical questions based on Wong information he said Bruce was very strong even he said Bruce was trained to gouge eyes 👀 only a High ranking student or master would teach Something like that’d in China kung fu . Those are Dangerous techniques for basic fight obviously this fight was more brutal than what been outside sharing though both men had No injuries the facts remain Bruce Lee was fighting for his life against a Shaolin Student like himself a modern Shaolin student. Remember in China They don’t boast or brag about dangerous fights because it common at the time of Bruce Lee days, Goldenbell you have to remember that’d when some fights take place it doesn’t mean it going to be reported every time like uh oh I’d got hit or I’d aim for his eyes or etc Bruce Lee had beaten so many people as well that’s in China gangs it common. Lee was autodidact but Bruce Lee even said that Ip Man was his True Sifu and Loved him so all the other names they were just basic into his up bringing in martial arts but Bruce Lee learned it and moved on like most people don’t mention I’ve learned Karate 🥋 first why’d not mention because it’s Irrelevant to the Biography Lee Himself explaining in his own interviews.
Bruce Lee’s uncle taught him Hung Gar, before he went to study with Ip Man. He also studied boxing at his school.
Autodidact (self taught) as a kid, sneaking on set and watching the martial art performed, then going home and practicing in his room is yet ANOTHER HUGE FACT of how DEDICATED AND GREAT Bruce Lee really was.
The part of his life where he was involved in a gang and he was kind of a bully temporarily, EVERYONE has SOMETHING negative they did in their past at some point in childhood and / or as a teen.
The IMPORTANT THING is he did NOT stay that way. GOOD people do NOT stay that way. Growing up is a learning process and sometimes one ends up with the wrong crowd to try to be cool or try to fit in.
That's happened at least to some degree or extent TEMPORARILY to ALL of us, whether sibling rivalry or picking on and teasing at school, or being the one being picked on, and in some cases, both.
It's sad that people will hold such things over someone's head that happened when they were young, in a helpless and hopeless attempt at trying to discredit, ruin, or tarnish someone's character and reputation later in life.
People who do that are pathetic human beings, and the people who hold that over Bruce Lee's head to try to discredit him or other people for what they did when they were young, if those naysayers are honest, they ALL have something they did wrong, too, when they were young.
We ALL have WHEN we were young. That's part of growing up and learning. That's NOT condoning what he and everyone did when they were young, the point is you learned from it and did NOT stay that way, which is COMMENDABLE!
So, IF this is an attempt at trying to destroy, discredit, and ruin Bruce Lee's legacy of how GREAT he REALLY and TRULY was just because you naysayers and haters are jealous and have NEVER accomplished or achieved anything, you FAILED MISERABLY.
The things people do to people out of jealousy or just because someone's not liked, people will dig and dig and dig until they find something bad, negative, and wrong, then they'll say, "see!"
There's a saying, "if and when you look for something wrong with someone long enough, you're going to find it."
We've ALL done something wrong when we were young.
The GREATNESS AND LEGACY of Bruce Lee will NEVER be forgotten or tarnished, and this video shows yet ANOTHER ASPECT of just how GREAT he was.
So, if this was a helpless and hopeless attempt at trying to destroy and discredit Bruce Lee, it FAILED MISERABLY and back fired, and did the EXACT OPPOSITE.
THANK YOU for that! 😁
ALL the Bruce Lee loser haters can kick dirt! 😂
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NO, Bruce Lee was NOT just a martial arts action star.
He was a PROFESSIONAL, REAL, TRUE martial artist.
I don't think anyone, or, at least NOT very many have ACTUALLY researched Bruce Lee's life like I have, listening to interviews of those who actually knew him, saw what he did, trained under him, and sparred with him.
In a nutshell, actual karate champions and at least one professional street fighter have said that "NO one could touch him. He'd beat ALL of us."
More and more information and actual video footage of Bruce Lee fighting, sparring, and training is still coming out in recent years.
They're ALL on RUclips.
PLEASE educate yourself so you can actually give an intelligent and knowledgeable comment about the world's GREATEST martial artist that you clearly know NOTHING about.
PLEASE do at least a little research.
NO, Bruce Lee is NOT GOD! ONLY THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST ALONE HIMSELF IS GOD!
Bruce Lee is the BEST AND GREATEST, most complete, most well rounded fighter and martial artist of ALL TIME, EVER, SECOND TO NONE HANDS DOWN.
Bruce Lee isn't called the founder of Jeet Kune Do and the founding father of MMA for nothing.
Jeet Kune Do, Bruce Lee's style of Kung Fu, and Wing Chun Kung Fu, those two being the foundation of Jeet Kune Do, Jeet Kune Do is MMA in EVERY SENSE of the abbreviations for those words, Mixed Martial Arts.
Bruce adapted and took the VERY BEST from each martial art of that time including fencing and western boxing ( Bruce's stance being that of a fencer, WITHOUT the swords, of course), keeping the foundation of Jeet Kune Do as Kung Fu and Wing Chun Kung Fu, and made them BETTER, DEADLY, NOT for competition, but for street fighting, for fighting in the streets.
Bruce grew up as a street fighter and learned how to fight, learning Kung Fu and Wing Chun Kung Fu at a young age because he was bullied for not being full blooded Chinese. He was picked on and harassed all the time and had to learn how to fight.
In Jeet Kune Do he also added some Judo, Jujitsu, some karate and kickboxing, and I think some Aikido, Muay Thai, and Taiquwando, the BEST from these other martial arts fighting styles, and whatever he felt and knew didn't work, he discarded them.
That is Jeet Kune Do, which is MMA, taking the best moves from all the arts, adding what is the best, easiest, most efficient and useful, and discarding what is NOT helpful or useful.
It's about "being water, being formless, shapeless, like water," NOT thinking, "FEEL!" IF you have to think about your next move against your opponent, your opponent will have already struck you multiple times, and will have defeated you.
Bruce Lee hated being bound by and to a set of rigid and strict rules in martial arts. Bruce hated anything and everything that caused limitation. Being bound by a set of strict rules where the instructor says you must do this or do that in a given situation in a fight or in martial arts is limiting the fighter, and limitation in martial arts is useless, and will only leave one defeated.
Bruce said there is NO best martial art. Whatever you master is the best for you. Why learn and study only one?! Learn and study ALL of them, add and discard, or take away from as necessary and needed for each and every scenario and situation that one may find oneself in.
That is MMA, which is Jeet Kune Do, the foundation being Kung Fu and Wing Chun Kung Fu, adding the BEST, EASIEST, MOST EFFICIENT, MOST HELPFUL, MOST PRACTICAL, SIMPLEST forms of martial arts movements from as many martial arts forms and styles as you can, and discard anything and everything that is NOT helpful or useful, mastering yourself.
IF we end up losing in a fight, it is ONLY because we have defeated ourselves, because if and when we end up in a fight, we are really only fighting ourselves, fighting to master our own bodies and will.
REFUSE to let life keep you down. IF or WHEN you get knocked down, get back up. This applies to NOT only fighting and martial arts, but ALL areas of life as well.
Sometimes we fall down and get knocked down. It happens to EVERYONE.
What is important, is, do NOT stay down. Get back up. Don't ever quit! NEVER EVER quit! NOT in any fight, NOT in life.
These are ALL principles from Bruce Lee, including Jackie Chan and Sylvester Stallone, and many other celebrities and athletes, ALL of these principles being BIBLICAL AND CHRISTIAN principles concerning beating your body into submission and subjection to master your own body so you can be the BEST version of yourself that you can be, that THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY, LORD AND SAVIOUR, JESUS CHRIST ALONE HIMSELF CREATED you to be and wants you to be.
And about NOT giving up, NEVER EVER GIVE UP OR QUIT!
Bruce Lee was also a philosopher. He didn't just study and train in fighting and martial arts, he didn't just act, he taught, he had schools of Jeet Kune Do, he taught the best and greatest karate champions who wanted to learn, and he was hated for it by those in the karate community who were jealous of him being BETTER than ALL of them, and hated by the chinese government because they didn't want Bruce Lee to teach westerners chinese martial arts.
GOD made and used Bruce Lee to be the bridge to unite the eastern and western world for and of martial arts, to help bring the eastern martial arts to the west, and western style of martial arts to the east.
Bruce Lee researched and studied countless hours, and wrote countless notes of not only martial arts styles and combining them, adding what is the best and MOST HELPFUL AND USEFUL, and discarding what is NOT helpful or useful, but the history, the idea, the philosophy, the why of each move in Jeet Kune Do which is MMA, the foundation being Kung Fu and Wing Chun Kung Fu.
Later, when Bruce Lee learned that ALL martial arts is merely and simply immitation, or a copy, he knew that is also limitation, hence, therefore, and thus, he closed ALL his Jeet Kune Do schools.
To imitate is to cause limitation because it makes one slow because they are merely imitating their instructor and teacher rather than being themselves and doing what comes naturally, flowing, fluidity, like water.
So, then, what is the answer?! To NEVER train in martial arts?!
NOT at all. Rather, learn EVERYTHING, as much as you can, having the CORRECT AND RIGHT focus and thoughts as to the WHY of that which you are doing.
Be yourself. Practice, train, spar, when necessary, fight, but be yourself, mastering yourself, absorbing, learning, and studying EVERYTHING concerning martial arts, WITHOUT copying and imitating someone else, because that brings and causes limitation, and limitation and imitation, which is copying, and thinking only slows you down and will cause you to be defeated.
"Don't think! FEEL!"
"Be formless, shapeless, like water. When you pour water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle. Pour water into a cup, it becomes the cup. Pour water into a tea pot, it becomes the tea pot. Water can flow, or it can crash. Be water, my Friend." Bruce Lee
The BEST AND GREATEST martial artist of ALL TIME, EVER, SECOND TO NONE, HANDS DOWN, Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee was WAY AHEAD of his time because he was HUMBLE AND RESPECTFUL, ALWAYS CONTINUED learning, researching, studying, teaching, and training, and is the MOST COMPLETE, MOST WELL ROUNDED fighter and martial artist that ever lived, and this LEGACY of his lives on to this very day, INSPIRING MILLIONS!
There'd be NO MMA or UFC if it were not for Bruce Lee.
His martial arts movies are NOT just mere entertainment. They're philosophical and spiritual, GREAT lessons and teachings to be learned in them.
The martial arts movie, The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, though not a Bruce Lee movie, is a GREAT movie to learn and understand the idea, philosophy, and the why of Kung Fu.
Do NOT merely learn a martial art, but research and study the history, the idea, purpose, and why of each art and movement, and you will grow and learn better and faster, and that will take you to a whole other level of becoming the BEST version of yourself, mastering yourself, becoming the MOST COMPLETE, MOST WELL ROUNDED fighter and martial artist, for you yourself, and to help defend and protect others by being yourself, NOT imitating which is a copy, and NOT limitation and thinking, because that only makes one slow and causes one to be defeated, having defeated ONLY himself / herself.
Omg Leo Fong has died, RIP. Really love your thoughtful and insightful content brother. I began martial arts at age 12 because like Bruce I was moderately out of control in Los Angeles so my Pop enrolled me down the street at Okinawan Shorin Ryu from sensei Ikeda on Olympic and Crenshaw in 1967 changed my life forever and gave me discipline to think.
I always enjoy your videos. I was in college when Bruce died (yeah, I'm old) and read everything that came out in the ensuing years, including Linda's book. This leads to great frustration when things misrepresent truths... Dragon, the Bruce Lee story was particularly bad with chronology and facts, such as how Bruce hurt his back.
Your channel really corroborates the things that I read in the 1970s.
Oh yeah, RIP Leo T Fong. I had two of his books from the '70s, weight training and Choi Li Fut. He lived a long life.
I love how your channel is so accurate and actually facts keep it up bro 💪🏾
Thanks for watching 👍
@@GoldenbellTraining What is the Meta man technique
Rondo this is fake news!!!!!! Bruce Lee was a paper tiger and learned how to corrupt himself through fake methods of training. (that is how he hurt his back) He knew no Martial Art. When you say 'gung-fu' in Mandarin and translate to English it is kung-fu. (this means workman) The translation from gung-fu to kung-fu loses all of its essences. Martial Arts is design specifically for maiming a person, breaking their bones, and taking their life. There is no other meaning! So we have Southern China fighting classified as kung-fu, and has three categories from top to bottom; Hung-gar, Choy lay-fut, and Myjong-Longhorn, and Wing Chun as the least of these. All of these are considered fighting art forms of self-defense.
All others from other nations (taken from China) are 'Karate' (open hand) which is a corruption of kuntao the way of the hand. There 100's of kung-fu and karate art forms but only one gung-fu. Under karate you have aikido, judo and boxing and wrestling they are calling grabbing. No matter what you call it Martial Artists don't do these.
If the Southern Royal families had not taken Gung-fu out of Shaolin it would not be standing today. It was taken out to preserve it from destruction for fear of it. So kung-fu is of Northern Shaolin (now) and Gung-fu is of Southern China. Martial Arts has three levels now; 1st - Shaolin (5 animals) 2nd - Black Dragon (or Royal Guard Forms) and 3rd - the top is (in order of strength and movements) man, monkey and mongoose.
These took the place of 36 forms, 36 chambers, 36 weapons and the 18 hands of Lo Han from where came the 5 death strikes. They hit Lee with 2 bc he wouldn't die! (or was dying too slowly) Its all in my book "What (really) happened to Jun Fun Li?" It tells the truth of who Bruce was and what happen to him and who did it.
RIP Leo Fong 😢
I'm impressed not just with your knowledge of Bruce Lee, but also with Chinese folktale characters and culture!
Bruce Lee as the new Wong Fei Hung!! Wow!! Very interesting insight. Your comment regarding Bruce sneaking onto the movie set and watching all these practitioners executing their Kung Fu moves and then he himself going home "shutting the door" and practicing what he saw...well...isn't that what we were doing watching Bruce Lee movies and Shaw Brothers movies..Lol!! Going home and practicing those moves we saw on the big screen. I mean how many of went home and practiced Snake Fist or White Crane because we saw it on the big screen!! Great video, great insight!! 👍
Spiritually , Bruce Lee did everything right by creating his own style of Martial Arts . A person Soul is to learn and create on Earth . That's actually what Bruce Lee did .
The story goes, Bruce Lee visited Ip Man in the 1960s, offered him like 10,000 to film the old man doing the wooden dummy form, which Bruce lacked. Ip Man refused, and after this Bruce started teaching his own style incorporating what he lacked from Tae Kwon Do, wrestling, boxing, etc.
@@putinscat1208 its like a natural counter to wing chun. he avoids kontakt to the enemies hand and breaks rythm, maybe not ideal vs wrestler..but vs WC and karate it is deadly
@@danielchoritz1903 What is? Bruce wanted to beat any man with any style. You could say it is no style.
If Bruce really had a martial arts mentor prior to what you say and if it was really relevant to his career he defensively would have mentioned that fact real and historically there would be hard facts, but as RUclips pays per click and not for actual facts I think this video is a hunt for click and bs and so I think this video sucks
@@putinscat1208 or all style he knew.
It doesn't matter what kind of kung fu Bruce Lee did it was all great and I still enjoy his movies. Bruce Lee passed away at age 32 😭😭😭 The world is unfair because a dictatorship lives longer. Bruce Lee was a legend a father and will never hurt anyone for no reason. I miss Bruce Lee and I would have given him a beautiful life and all the happiness in the world and in the movie world to. Bruce Lee ❤ for ever
de cobra - yawn! he was none of that, he was a pape tiger with a big mouth that bite off more than he could chew.
@@ddmound
The legacy of Bruce Lee proves you to be a liar and a hater.
Geesh have you not read you should have no guys before me? Bruce Lee made terrible detrimental decisions and it cost him his life. His movies now are comedies. He was very delusional about the world and himself and perfectly understood by those who put him down.. but people don't realize true martial arts is still a secret. If you show martial arts to any of these guys in Hollywood calling themselves martial artist because Bruce Lee thought he was they would be amazed. I put it all in my book 'what really happened to June Fun Li'. The only reason the Bruce Lee myth is being perpetuated is for the same reason the Elvis legend is being promulgated and that's for money. If people knew martial arts they would not hold Bruce Lee in such a high esteem except for what he did in his film work which he did no martial arts in his film work
@@truthhitman7473 pls you dont know anything about that man other than moviies
@@ddmound
You hypocrite! You never met Bruce Lee neither.
Interesting video, as always.
This was awesome!!! Love it!!!
Instant subscribe! Thanks for this incredible video!
Brother, I really enjoy your videos especially about Bruce Lee. This one about his first teacher and the one about his training methods are my favorites. I think I’ve watched them all and I am looking forward to more. This is one of my favorite channels overall. Bruce Lee is certainly one of the heroes in my life ever since childhood. Even if in reality he isn’t the greatest martial artist of all time, at least to me he is the most inspirational. Not just as a martial artist, but as an actor as well. The world and the film industry owes a debt to him on so many levels-cultural, artistic, etc. What inspires me the most about him is how he continued to work on himself, physically, mentally, spiritually, philosophically and more. He was indeed a flawed individual as much as he was a pioneer in cinema. What human being isn’t flawed? I feel you have a great respect and admiration for Mr. Lee and his journey. Yes, often the reality is far more interesting than the myth and not just with Bruce Lee. I also feel he would have continued to try better himself and his as time progressed. I also feel that his true vision of Game Of Death would have been more powerful than Enter The Dragon, which is my favorite film of all time, at least the one that is most entertaining. Btw, I rarely have perused the Beerdy channel as it didn’t interest me that much when I viewed a few of the videos. I think at this point, your great videos stand strong and sincerely on their own. No further need to keep bringing Beerdy up, just focus more on all the cool and informative, interesting content you yourself are bringing, which seems quite well researched. I love Bruce Lee’s screen work from The Green Hornet through Longstreet and of course his Hong Kong cinema. Let’s not forget he was husband, father, dancer and fight choreographer. I would love to see a video of your analysis of some of his fight choreography that set him and his films apart from most of the martial arts films of his era and even today.
I believe you are correct about Bruce mimicking what he saw till he got it right ...and then made it great.
I am the same when it comes to seeing physical movement ...once I see any move in movies I can nail it by the 3rd try.
steve really? What have you trained in and how long? Can you recognize the break down of movements in a gung-fu form since they do 'speak'?
Yes, very well researched. Bruce studied Taiji from his father, Wing Chun from Yip Man, Boxing from Brother Edward of his school St. Francis Xavier's, and Chin Woo Athletic Association syllabus from Siu Hong Shan 邵漢生 (1900-1994) who was student of Huo Dong-Ge 霍東閣 , son of Chin Woo Athletic Association founder Huo Yuan Jia 霍元甲。Shih Kien 石堅 (1913-2009) was an orphan and very weak, and his father's concubine send him to study various Northern Kung Fu such as Praying Mantis and Luo Han Chuan. They were good friends of Bruce's father. Cantonese Opera has adopted Peking Opera's fighting choreography, and hence Bruce's father as a famous 武丑 Kung Fu comedian learned various Northern Kung Fu including Taiji.
Great content!
love this channel!!
I had the honour of training under grandmaster Cheung , can’t put a price on the things I learnt from that man I owe him much
Always get a big kick out of your videos. Especially when I see some of the martial arts I learned in them. Today it was Uncle Soo doing Bung po, which is the second form I learned (way back when I was in high school) attending Seven Star Mantis School in NYC, where my Sifu's Si Hing was Shi Kien ( there were pictures of the two of them together all over the Kwoon). I always appreciate your thorough research, and commitment to telling the truth!
“I can not teach, only show you.” -Bruce Lee
Self-Improvement, Self-Development, Self-Taught.
And he was NOT a street fighter...
@@johnmatonne7834 bruh, same for all fighters
@@CTM_05 Agreed. But, Lee did not fight professionally, or on the street. He was good at sparring back in the day which at that time was done with light contact to the body and no contact to the face.
Chue - Bruce showed them alright. Where is he now? He was just a fanatic that got caught up in his own BS! It cost him his life and the life of his son who also had become a fake martial artists. Bruce learned movie making from 6-12. From 12 to 16 he got his butt kicked for wanting to be admired as a child star long gone by from triad children that ran the neighborhood. His father brided Yip Man to teach Bruce.
Yip Man would not have accepted the request from Bruce's mother (being female) bc she was not full-blooded Chinese and neither was he. This is what caused the controversy when IP pupils found out and wanted him out the class. But Yip Man had been spent that money on his opium habit. And due to the recent infamous Chinese Boxer's Rebellion, Bruce was banned from learning from Yip Man. That banned followed him to Hollywood from Washington State.
So here is a brief history of Martial Arts and what it means. The latter first, Chinese Boxing (called 拳術 Quán shù) was practiced at Shaolin in Henan Province 2500 years before it became Martial Arts which took 7 years to perfect with the three texts Buhhda introduced to them, namely the lotus sutra, I-Hsieng and I-Chieng and became the mystery of yin and yang Bruce said was baloney.
@@johnmatonne7834 you right! Bruce Lee was a momma's boy!! His mother even nicknamed him after a female baby girl "lil' phoenix". But after he grew too big to do little rebellious boy roles they put his butt in public school. He was not use to that. He wanted his peers to acknowledge him as a child star. ANd they were like, KMA! And they beat Lee's butt at will. The 8th street junction tigers were children of triads taking over SOuthern China after the infamous Boxer's rebellion.
The true genius of Martial Arts was its inventor Chu'uan Fa (Ken Fat in Mandarin) and called it Wu (martial which means 'primary' that refers strictly to Chu'uan Fa) Shu (Art)s. When used in plural it is referring to what it was and became included. WuShu (Cantonese) is Gung-fu in Mandarin and Martial arts in English.
It is now called PaQua kuntao style and is domiciled (since it was once barred from China with the Southern China Royal families who brought it back from Indonesia) at Harvest Studios with Raymond Chow and the Shaw Brothers who are/were all triads. They were responsible for the death of Bruce Lee. Martial Arts has its own hierarchy that kung-fu and karate-do not participate in but imitate.
Great videos!
Love your videos!!!!!!!!
Just came across your videos. Excellent content. Really like that you try to sift out the BS from the many stories out there. Great job.
Thanks for watching 👍
@@GoldenbellTraining I’ve lost sleep because of you 😁. I’m in a marathon watching your vids. Good stuff pal.
Bruce didn’t start Wing Chun until 15, not 13. 13 was an incorrect age spread by William Cheung. Many other people confirm that Bruce started at age 15 - which makes sense since he himself said he only trained with Yip Man for 3 years - and he left for America at 18. Jesse Glover also confirms this.
Awesome video!
William Cheung may not be wrong. Chinese/Korean/Japanese/etc count age differently. You turn one year older on your birthday, then another year at the Chinese New Year. 13 + 1 (bday) + 1 (Chinese New Year) = 15
Bruce said he started when he was 13 during his interview while making ETD. ruclips.net/video/_uJ9YnweI-8/видео.html
wingchun - did you know that wing chun is not gung-fu. It is strictly kung-fu. Actually (you must consider the culture with age) but bruce got his butt kicked from 12-16. From 16-18 he took lessons from Yip Man (the traditional opium addict).
Bruce father had to bribe IP to teach him due to the recent stigma of China with the infamous Boxer's Rebellion that restricted teaching of foreigners Chinese kung-fu. (not gung-fu)
Before bruce turned 18 he was ran out of China for fear of his life from Triad children called the 8th street junction tigers. They vowed to kill him if he ever was seen after that day on the streets of Hong Kong. He was sent to America the next day to preserve his life. He studied for 2 years.
IP course was for 3 years. If Bruce had've finished the 3 years and came to America and open a school. It would not have been a problem i he would have called it what it was, Wing Chun.
Instead, and continuing in the offense that ran him out of HK, he opens the school under his family name. Not only that but he called it "gung-fu" which is how Yip Man got in trouble and denounced him. Nothing about wing chun is gung-fu. Bruce found out the hard way
@@ddmound Gung Fu and Kung Fu are the same thing... they’re different spellings of the same word said in Chinese... no offense, but I don’t know what your point was with this convoluted message... you wrote all this to tell me Wing Chun is not “gung fu” but it’s “kung fu” - which is wrong. They’re the same thing - and you don’t make any sense.
@@Btu555 Yes, that’s when Bruce started learning martial arts in general, as the interview says “martial arts” - but Wing Chun specifically wasn’t until 15 years old. Bruce actually learned Hung Gar as his first style before learning Wing Chun later on.
Your content is the best brother, hands down.
I'm really loving these videos!
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Like you’re works bro!! Right on my shifu told me that Bruce was extremely talented you show once or twice he will not only get it,but will do it even!! Keep up the good 👍🏾 work..
Brilliant video
Sorry to hear about the passing of Leo Fong. My JKD instructor Lamar Davis hosted him for a seminar in Birmingham Alabama back in the 1990. Class act!
jmdrake - was that the core of the training jkd? How do you train in something that is not a style and has no forms? And is just a name bruce lee said?
@@ddmound I'm not understanding your question. I can say this. Bruce Lee had three different schools while he was alive. And he certified different people in jkd. So yes it can be tough. And something doesn't have to be a style to be taught. MMA is not a style. And yet you can go to different schools and take classes in the mma.
I myself studied Wing Chun under Jayson Lau in Flatbush Brooklyn in the 1970's. Then I studied Jujitsu under Moses Powell in Brooklyn. Then a friend of mine taught me some White Crane kung Fu. He had studied under Wai Hung, down Chinatown, Manhattan. I think it is good to incorporate the best, from different fighting forms/styles. I made my fighting style my own.
Wallace you would love gung-fu which is now PaQua kuntao style. All you mentioned except jujitsu is kung-fu. Wing chun and white crane (from Northern Shaolin) are both kung-fu with 3 year agendas. I graduated from P.S. 269 in flatbush in 68.
Very good video.
Thank you!!!! I've been saying this for years!!!!
Great Video , and its sounds for me logical true. That explains where he got all the other forms
Need more like these
Truly a legend, one of a kind . He had taken marital art to a spiritual level. Imagine, if he had an extra 10yrs!? Totally unimaginable.
awesome, great research and to every word a fitting clip, with personal coloring and in a good to understand voice. most stuff about bruce lee is just fast food for fast klicks, this is a love letter to bruce lee!
bruce was always a troublemaker, but with a upright heart and standing strong to himself and his craft. bruce lee fits the image of a hero not only in his movies, but his live to.
Liang Tzu-Pang was an LHBF (Lok Hup Ba Fa aka "Water Boxing") teacher that taught Bruce's father...sending love and peace to everyone...
William Cheung introduced Lee to Yip Man, started learning taiji from an Uncle, he watched many fight and followed William Cheung around a lot, they developed there WC together, Lee constantly sought out more, his main goal was to better William Cheung, Wong Shun Leung taught him as well, he followed the 2 best fighters in Yip Man's school. It was great learning from William Cheung, his skills were unbelievable. I was cheeky in class sometimes and William Cheung would see and say that won't work try on me, with a light touch I'd go flying, eyeballs rolling, when vision came back he'd be right in front of me and roll punch before I could react. Lees and William Cheungs skill were better than most. Wong told Lee after Lee asked- no you couldn't beat William Cheung.
Great video, lots of info. AFAIK Jing Wu generally had a standard curriculum of northern styles like Tan Tui, Zhaquan or Gu Ruzhang's Bei Shaolin, some form of mantis and some of the internals. At 8:52 you can see Uncle Siu doing some Praying Mantis (7 Star I think) and at 9:12 looks like some of the other northern styles I mentioned. This explains why Bruce was so fond (and good at) of high kicks and jumping kicks and all that, which are not really present in Wing Chun. He had a northern styles background. Again, thanks for your research. It's good to see an analysis of Bruce that's not coming from a fanboy.
Respect. Rest In peace mr Leo Fong.
Am very happy with your channel very good and not the annoying Bruce lee fan boys channels that supposedly know everything ;) not.
Have been crazy about fighting sports since I was a kid I am Dutch who are known for having good fighters in mma and k1 kickboxing and even in Taiboxing.
In my youth I started with Gymnastics then Jodo and then Karate, so I am not lazy like many fans who talk a lot and don't represent anything.
Unfortunately I am now disabled after severe cancer but the experience remains.
Also my dad can do a lot of top fighters because he was a bodybuilder for 41 years ( even now at 80 years old) haha yes it is a go-getter )
I thank you for the good work wish you much success further. Gr
You missed Bruce Lee studying Southern Praying Mantis and Northern forms like Tam Toy, Jeet Kuen and Gung Lik Kuen. You also missed him studying Bak Mei.
Thanks for pointing out topics outside the scope of the video. 👍
@@GoldenbellTraining The video was about which styles of kung fu Bruce Lee learned before he discovered wing chun. Stop whining because some one showed you up. How do you even know what you say is true? For every real Bruce Lee story there are a thousand fake ones. What makes you any different?
Sorry tp hear about. L.Fong just ordered his book si lim Kung fu may he R.I.P. bruce lee and his crew were superb men and women l. Loved how he could express himself so deeply!!!!!!
Probably the best Bruce Lee biopic I've seen is Bruce Lee my brother which is based on a book by Robert Lee... I love how you have clips from that movie and actual clips of young Bruce Lee in this video..
And as silly as The Legend of Bruce Lee series is... I love it. 🤷♂️
I'm subscribed I'm amazed 🇵🇭
Hello, love your videos and info. I’ve been training hung gar and wing chun for three years religiously with my Sifu. And the question at 6:14 I can some up some forms or maybe techniques he knows from the info shown. It’s likely that he was taught parts of tiger crane, and heart penetrating palm. But the technique shown in the first photo I don’t really know. It’s possible he was mixing techniques, However it could be from a different lineage like lau hung gar or it came from a different lineage of white crane. Hope that helps shed some light on how much he knew.
Huge fan and great videos. You should do a video on whom will be the next generation of action star or stars to the level of the likes of Donnie Yen. I mean he is the youngest. If one is not available, how do producers or directors find one?
My man,you have a dope $$$ channel.Learning all kinds of new things about Bruce Lee,good and bad.Bruce was a human being just like the rest of us,he had his faults,short-comings,made good,bad decisions.You don't have to be perfect to accomplish great things,make your dreams come true.AND that's what Bruce did,he did a lot before dying young.I put Tupac in the same vein.Some people say Bruce was an actor,not a true martial artist and I tell them a lot of the black belts of Bruce's era wanted to train with him.You don't get that kind of respect being an actor.The question I have for you is-why does Gene Lebell call Bruce an actor in his interviews??? You're doing a GREAT job on your channel,keep'em coming.
In the black and white screen test Bruce Lee is doing moves that can be found in many different arts like eagle claw, long fast, northern praying mantis, and even Choy Lee Fut
I believe you are absolutely correct.
Bruce was the main reason I started training wing chun decades ago in NYC. It had to work. I gravitated to Ving Tsun because of its practical efficiency for street combat. In reflection, it is the same reason for Bruce Lee. Essentially what you do, must work. For him, it must work. Bruce Lee was results orientated. He was a great example of the term ""Effort (hard work) over time is "gung-fu skill" success. Even though he took an old wine and poured it in a new bottle, it was still the old wine. However, as time passes, the wine ages and matures. It can become concentrated. However, it can also become more diluted if you add diluting ingredients. Yip man was his 1st formal teacher according to the Chinese tradition.
I studied gong fu in parks in Hong Kong in 1994. Those parks were like a smorgasbord of Kung fu. I was exposed to styles and systems that were virtually unheard of here in the states. I imagine Bruce was as well.
He was a marketing genius, inside film industry. That’s the key ingredient in a successful in showbiz
What is certain at least is, that Tan tui is absolutely one of the original foundation styles of jing wu mun.
Sifu Eric Hargrove(eagle claw) style did an impressive job of compiling a decent chart of who he studied with. But it still doesn't list all his teachers(in aikijitsu for instance). It is unfortunately true that when someone passes away they can(and all too often will) claim whatever they want.
The Ten Tigers of Canton are where these styles intersect. Wong Yan Lam used White Crane or Lions Roar and Wong Kei-Ying was Wong Fei-Hungs father.
Indeed, and if memory serves there was an exchange of techniques so that HG has some Lama in it and LP has some HG animal stuff.
Dan Inosanto said in school Bruce learnt Tan Tui in P.E. during high school...but Jesse Glover had said Bruce had studied Hung gar for a while before he ever learned Wing Chun
Bruce, like ancient monks, saw the world as a teacher. He popped out of the womb knowing what he wanted. The spotlight was secondary to the essence of his perpetual transformations. If a lot of people wanted to watch then even better. I don't know who he pissed off but after Jimi I looked back into his case. I had no guitar teachers.
You have a great channel with interesting flicks & love to watch them. My opinion op Bruce Lee in general and all the people who are talking about him: Things that are told about Bruce Lee are mostly (if not all) are hearsay & there is no evidence whatsoever. Let's honour the man for his legacy and leave his private life private. Thnx
Jim Kelly said Bruce Lee took private lessons from his and Joe Lewis's instructor... There's an Inosanto/Parker connection as well... That same instructor has a brother who teaches Hung Gar from the Buck Sam Kong/Lam Cho lineage and he was active in the Hollywood film industry...
Slow motion Tai Chi forms are not supposed to be for "Show". Just as slow motion Pushups, are not meant for Show. Yet both serve a very specific training purpose. In order to do a pushup 10x slower than normal pace... you need much greater strength.. and strength all along the ENTIRE path of movement. When people do normal pushups... they tend to use the help of gravity to lower themselves, and use upwards momentum, to help get them back up. This momentum cheat, does not fully develop strength along the entire path of movement. The OP gets the most strength, in the center most part of the movement... with the rest being far reduced. By doing the pushup slowly... you are forced to develop strength all along the entire move... and there is no way to "Cheat". In fact, your muscles will be challenged 10x greater... so 10 slow motion pushups (at like 12 seconds per), is like doing 30 to 50 normal pushups. (but still, even better, as it develops a stronger overall muscle set)
Tai Chi slow form training is similar. Holding your arms mostly outstretched away from your body.. is not that challenging, when you only do it for a few seconds... but when you are challenged with a full hour of this... your limbs will be burning and struggling... and they will feel like 30 lb lead weights. It causes a lot of stress on the joints / tendons.. and thus, you eventually develop super strong tendons, joints, and other amazing internal strength developments. If you want to feel a similar effect in a much shorter timeframe... put on some wrist weights, or tie some filled water bottles to your arms... and simply hold them out at your sides, and or in front of you... and or.. move your extended arms similarly in slow circular movements. The added mass will fatigue you quicker than you realize... and trying to be 100% pinpoint precise in your lines of movement... will be Extremely difficult to maintain, when your arms are both on fire, and on the verge of collapse.
You will see a similar type of training, in Tae Kwan Do kick training. They do drills where they lift and extend their kicks... in slow motion. Try it. Without the normal speed and momentum.. your leg muscles are taxed with a LOT more challenging mass to have to maintain. In time, you will develop new, and larger muscles, as well as strengthening the joints / tendons. In my case, I got this little bulge of a muscle, on both sides of my hips, because of a similar leg training that I did in my Kung Fu training. If memory serves right.. I believe at one time, I was up to 2 min, with a fully extended leg, at waist-height. And if you can do anything close to that... then when sparring.. where fatigue is amplified drastically... you will not end up with sloppy, weak, and inaccurate kicks.. even after +3 min rounds of full/heavy contact bouts. (Obviously, there is more drills for each attribute of a kick, than just this drill)
Thanks for sharing
john do' - none of this is martial arts or tai chi chuan training. You do not under any circumstances use weights with TCC. They use light weights in kung-fu training at Shaolin but that carried over from before it became gung-fu under Chu'uan Fa (who they gave honor to in tai chi "Chuan") aka Taiji (among other nic names)
But the soul purpose of WuShu (gung-fu aka Martial Art) and TCC training is to build chi'. ("chi' comes from zen") Anything else by any other name is fake Martial Art or TCC. There are only two original tai chi chuan forms. (systems)
The first is called "Kings Style" in honor of the Southern China Royal families (who were barred from China with martial arts at one time). It generated 'chi' too rapidly (like gung-fu does) so they revamped it and called it 'Jungs style'.
Anything else that does not have the three key movements throughout the forms is bogus. Those three are ward -off, roll back and push down. Anything other than the natural force of the person is futile.
Nothing else will build chi and that is why these others use supplements. BC they do not have the knowledge. True martial Arts is still a secret. they just took it out of Shaolin to prevent its destruction which is the Chinese ppl's heritage.
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I know Jesse glover in his book Between Wing Chun and Jeet June Do, he said that Bruce Lee was studying Hung Gar before switching to Wing Chun.read the book it might tell who his Hung Gar Kung Fu teacher was.i know when I googled it I got Chiu Chi-ling
0:26 You can see Bruce Lee doing moves that could be from Long Fist, Eagle Claw, or even Nothern Praying Mantis
ZYX74 Git outta here! You see no such thing! Where? In what movie? Even so, movies are not real! duh!! The Long Range Fist forms comes from choylayfut, there is a Northern and Southern eagle's claw.
(the latter) It is incorporated into Northern Movements but is a fighting style in southern China. It was mainly invented to defeat the phoenix eye techinques but didn't.
Likewise, 'praying mantis' is strictly Northern but there is a Southern Praying mantis form in MyJongLonghorn. Bruce did none of these in his movies, except (5 sec) wingchun in fist of fury.
Those are forms he learned from Fook Yeung in Seattle.
It sounds like his previous instructor introduced him to Yip Man. The thing about legends is they blur the lines between why really happened and what they want you to believe.
There was a man that taught Bruce Lee his Kung Fu and Bruce was supposed to teach him to dance ,he taught Bruce his form but he never learn to dance ,so the man said and LOL at the whole thing. 😊
What are your thoughts on Bruce's fight with
wan Jack man , there's a video on the Kung fu
genius Chanel, where the kfg plays an audio tape and in it Bruce refers to won Jackman as the runner .
I'll be talking about this in a future video. David Chin told my friend what happened.
Does anyone know if Bruce had any experience with xing yi, bagua, or Chen tai chi. And what his thoughts were on any of them?
Good questions!
Yes, he trained these under Fook Yeung in Seattle, and taught at least a Bagua form to his early students. Dan Lee, a LA student and Tai Chi teacher, said that Bruce knew forms from Yang, Chen & Wu styles. He may have been exposed to them in HK, but he learned them in Seattle.
I have been a Big Bruce Lee Fan since August 1973 , and as big as he was then , here in the year 2023 , as i am writing this comment , Bruce Lee at list to me seems bigger now then ever before , they are releasing a 3 different box sets from Golden Harvest about Bruce Lee with his movies from Golden Harvest coming out i think in July or August of 2023 , 2 will have 4K discs and 1 Blu Ray only , but these Box sets will contain so much bonus material , that will take a pretty fair amount time to view it all , from what i am seeing it is going to be a UK release , but i think it can be sold to other nations or people that want to buy them can order them .
You seem to know your Bruce Lee (李小龙) stuff. Thanks for sharing
😎 I don't beleive that Bruce Lee really died. Bruce Lee is alive. 🙏🏻
After watching this video, I just remembered that this is how I taught myself the nunchaku almost ten years ago. I stumbled across a slow motion clip of Bruce using the nunchaku in 'Enter The Dragon' on RUclips and immediately started copying what I saw when I got my first pair of nunchaku. A nice Korean shopkeeper gave me my first pair and a 25 lb weight as payment for helping her clean her grocery store. I'm no genius, but I believe I can teach myself martial arts the same way as Master Bruce did.
Great video. I'm subscribing.
Such a legend
While learning WC Lee would go to many other schools of kung fu and exchange techniques with them, he sought out the number 2 disciple and learn many things.
Victor Khan was his senior brother at Ip's Man school!
I am from martial arts rooted boxer - kickbox muaythai hybrid but can do very good karate or taekwondo kicks have only seen it a few times and sorted out the most important kicks without any problems
Was David Chin also known as George Long? I was researching Wong's recollection of what led up to the fight and it sounded like an impromtu best out of 2 with Bruce's One Inch Punch. George, also a white crane user, wasn't ready for the second one and called Bruce out. That actually sounds similar to Vic Moore situation.
David Chin is David Chin.
@@GoldenbellTraining Thanks
Can you do a documentary on:
Cheuk Tse the Hop Gar grandmaster
☯Obrigado por compartilhar este vídeo conosco☯
In the old Interview, where Bruce give a impression what Kung Fu is, he showed the Tiger and the Crane. There he use parts of the Tiger and Crane Form of Hung Gar
And as i know, Kwan Tak Hing learnd Hung Gar. Me was told, that Kwan Tak Hing ask, before he played in the first movie, the widow of Wong Fei Hung, Mok Gwai Lan, for her permission to play the role. She said yes, when he learnd Hung Gar. And as i heard, he was trained bye her and Lam Sai Wing, top student of Wong Fei Hung.
But i dont know, how much Kwan Tak Hing learnd from the Hung Gar System.
And Hung Gar is not a system in the Chin Woo School.
My uncle always said if you think, you don’t know 😂
You are correct. Bruce Lee's first Kung Fu "instructor" was Shao Hansheng. (邵漢生)
Do you have any knowledge of David Chins Kung Fu brother, Cheuk Tse??? He was supposedly highly respected in the martial arts scene at that time and taught Tibetan Hop Gar.
RIP LEO FONG😢
When everybody was waiting for the 50th Super Bowl, I was waiting for Ip Man 3!
Even the jun fan books he's seen doing tiger crane techniques
Tam Tui was my first style I learned from G.M Alan Lee in NYC. I also learned 12 silk weaving there. That man was a kung fu genius. I was taken to the school by a wing chun man who said I was not ready for wing chun. I was 13 at the time. It was the early 80's. I would learn wing chun in my twenties. And I took off like a lighting bolt. 170lbs. and hitting like a heavy weight. Man.... Wing chun is no joke. Especially when you know how to use it.
Tantui is one of my faves
Dude Danny Inasanto has an interview that talks about what Bruce practiced incessantly but never told people about it. What he did on that screen test was from northern Shaolin. In the northern curriculum is Hung Gar and tantui and praying mantis. The guy who taught him was married to a woman who was recognized as an exponent of the northern Shaolin. Bruce bartered with the husband kungfu in exchange for chacha lessons. The guy never did get the cha cha lessons……
My sifu knows the guy who taught northern Shaolin to Bruce. In fact that guy was a judge at one of the old Ed Parker Long Beach internationals that judged my sifu competing for a pair of Chinese double broadswords.
Do some digging around for that Inasanto interview and for Bruce’s northern Shaolin teacher and I’ll bet that will find more info to what your looking for.
Keep up the great posts!!!!
Sincerely,
Sifu Hero
@@theheroandlegendchannel That was my introduction. I was taken to the school by a Wing Chun man when I was 13. He said I was not ready for Wing Chun yet. I started learning Wing Chun in my 20's. And I got where he was coming from. Now in my 50's I am teaching my 8 year old daughter. We play pak sao and don chi sao. But that is as far as it goes. And I can't expect that much more at her age.
@@prfu1222 pak sau and don chi sau are awesome!!!!
Have fun!!!!!
love your vids but my dude, you all slaughtering Taijiquan's pronunciations. lol
Kwan Tak Hing was an exponent of Tibetan White Crane yes, and he also had a good relationship with Lam Family and their Hung Kyun as you can see when he (Kwan Tak Hing) did demos of Hung Kyun sets at the beginning of the Wong Fei Hung movies as for David Chin he was an exponent of Hop Ga which is similar to Tibetan Crane as they come from the Lions Roar lineage of Kung Fu. As for Bruce Lee he learned a bit of Hung Kyun but was never fully trained in the methodology taught to students who trained in that style which is most likely why he lost the fight to William Cheung back in his hoodlum days, still Bruce Lee is one of the most influential exponents of Martial Arts in the modern era.
It makes alot of sense because I was always confused with why Bruce Lee would use Crane form which is a Hung gar form
There is no crane form in hung gar, there is a crane section in both Fu Hok Seung Ying (Tiger Crane) and Sap Ying Kuen (Ten Shape Fist) but it looks nothing like the crane form Lee demonstrates...but many Chinese arts have crane forms...Choy Lay Fat....Bak Hok (White Crane) etc
Respect.
Bruce lee started with shaolin kempo with other students doing the same while also training with others defence systems like karate , pichak and kick - boxing . But he got defeated by some football supporters in a train .Then he emigrated to the usa and after learning more flexibility by a person who also used ballad integrated with TaeKwonDo like water .He created his new own style .
Got a lot of respect for you brother you know your shi......t
Wow 😳 interesting 🤔🧐
Hung Gar wouldn't have suited for Bruce Lee since Hung Gar is very hard on the body . Someone like Bolo Young would fit the Hung Gar style very easily .
He got a bad Reputation in Thailand filming the big boss, or so I read and later saw in a video. They allegedly called him 3 kick Lee. For films at that time in Asia you had to show a lot of techniques, and Bruce came from a well known family. I think he was a little impatient with the direction of the film. He had a brilliant mind, highly intelligent, had lots of knowledge, but he wasn't a God as people make him out to be. His books are full of good insights, but, he was just a man, and he had habits that took him down. It's sad that people elevate him to demigod status, he himself did say seek your own path.
From us elderly guys, thank you ;)
Thanks for watching 👍
I think I must of seen a video with Dan Inosanto, saying Bruce liked Shotokan. I guess Bruce was a magpie - picking the arts that really attracted him.
During my Bruce Lee research I recall reading something about him being trained in a circus style training juggling ECT a prefortive style Martial Art?!
That was someone else
@@GoldenbellTraining I even recall a pic of him balancing plates or perhaps it's the name of the phenomenon escapes me but it's a real thing memory is fallible.
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