Thomas Friedman on Iran, Israel and Preventing a ‘Forever War’

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  • Опубликовано: 18 апр 2024
  • Will Israel and Iran’s unprecedented attacks escalate into a wider mideast conflict? A “forever war”? This week, columnist Tom Friedman joins the hosts to unpack the latest developments, what it means for Gaza, and the implications for the region writ large.
    A full transcript of this audio essay will be available within 24 hours of publication on the Times website.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    • “How to Be Pro-Palestinian, Pro-Israeli and Pro-Iranian (www.nytimes.com/2024/04/16/op...) ” by Thomas L. Friedman
    • “Iran Just Made a Big Mistake. Israel Shouldn’t Follow. (www.nytimes.com/2024/04/14/op...) ” by Thomas L. Friedman
    • “A Biden Doctrine for the Middle East Is Forming. And It’s Big. (www.nytimes.com/2024/01/31/op...) ” by Thomas L. Friedman
    • “Netanyahu Must Go (www.nytimes.com/2024/04/09/op...) ” by Bret Stephens
    Thoughts about the show? Email us at matterofopinion@nytimes.com or leave a voicemail at (212) 556-7440.

Комментарии • 37

  • @Documenting-life
    @Documenting-life Месяц назад +5

    Tom is incorrect - Gantz and Eisencot agree on the American proposal (Gantz basically visited the US a month ago to discuss this with the US administration). Bin is reluctant to do so out of fear of loosing his coalition. And this will be one of these worst decision Bibi died in this war.

  • @Edo9River
    @Edo9River Месяц назад +2

    Someone keeps saying, All wars come to an end, eventually.😢

  • @willdon.1279
    @willdon.1279 Месяц назад +3

    I don't understand why my moderate comment has disappeared, when many rabid anti ones left. Why?

  • @tb8865
    @tb8865 Месяц назад

    A face-saving gesture followed up by a face-saving gesture. Nothing ever happens gang got this one right.

  • @criticalobserver5720
    @criticalobserver5720 Месяц назад +5

    Matter of opinion isn’t that all of NYT?

    • @ericarn
      @ericarn Месяц назад

      ‘Best week in terms of public opinion’… Jesus, NYT & WAPO all trying to sell the ‘war’ in Gaza. The American people DO NOT SUPPORT GENOCIDE!!

    • @incognito814
      @incognito814 Месяц назад

      😢

  • @Nateasnay
    @Nateasnay 21 день назад

    Ohhh now he wants to stop forever war, not 20 years ago when Americans were going to middle east👍

  • @eliashe1797
    @eliashe1797 Месяц назад +8

    "Iran hoped 😢 its rockets would hit"
    This seems like a really silly take. You do not telegraph your attacks unless you want them to fail.

    • @m.a.b.4104
      @m.a.b.4104 Месяц назад +1

      Bad take. Not really what was said.

    • @stoor79
      @stoor79 Месяц назад +1

      Iran telegraphed it so it wasn’t remarkable that 300 drones and rockets were intercepted.

    • @AlanReid-mt9kk
      @AlanReid-mt9kk Месяц назад

      I think Iran didn't want to create an all out war as they maybe know they aren't in a position to win but probably expected a bit more damage, but no civilian casualties. They likely thought with Western socialists and academics hating Israel/politicians fearful of an "escalation" it was worth trying to deter Israel from killing their generals.

    • @user-fc6bh9ms2p
      @user-fc6bh9ms2p Месяц назад

      ​@@stoor79not exactly since some falled themselves

  • @HerrFrankenstein
    @HerrFrankenstein Месяц назад +5

    If you could remove religiously inspired ambitions from the situation, they would have nothing to fight about

  • @arshbad1
    @arshbad1 Месяц назад +1

    Elites blithering incoherently .

  • @rocketshoot3027
    @rocketshoot3027 Месяц назад +2

    He will never condemn Israel..

  • @rocketshoot3027
    @rocketshoot3027 Месяц назад +2

    *War Criminal*

  • @gibransirat8454
    @gibransirat8454 Месяц назад

    Oh Tom you silly goose... It's amazing that he has a job at one of the most prestigious papers in the world. Do people actually take Tom *wrong about everything* Friedman seriously?

  • @Dennis_510
    @Dennis_510 Месяц назад +7

    Oh great, Friedman still sucks

    • @princedetenebres
      @princedetenebres Месяц назад

      But the next six months! They're critical, dontcha know?

  • @akumasdeception
    @akumasdeception Месяц назад +1

    More propaganda from Friedman 5:13

  • @psurrett1
    @psurrett1 Месяц назад

    When Islam returns the Temple Mount to Israel, there may be peace.