American First Time Seeing | Group B - The Age of the Supercar

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  • @WallaceFREEEDOOOM
    @WallaceFREEEDOOOM 4 месяца назад +30

    the girl driver is Michelle Mouton, she won multiple races and finished the 1982 championship in second place driving for Audi. nowadays shes some president type position in the FIA, the organization in charge of these events. She was the leading force in making these rally events safer over the years.

    • @uspppeerm
      @uspppeerm Месяц назад +1

      Ya, "that girl", haha :)

    • @iron_side5674
      @iron_side5674 Месяц назад +3

      The Greatest Racedriver of all time she was.
      By account of the Former greatest Racedriver of all time, Walter Röhrl.

  • @adventuresinmusic2487
    @adventuresinmusic2487 2 месяца назад +14

    I'm an old geezer. I drove in the last Group B rally. I was terrible slow but I was out there. An amazing time for Rally. Everyone goes on and on about four wheel drive but forget that turbocharging finally became usable. Huge horsepower increases. Near double in the beginning and then kept increasing each year. While four wheel drive has its issues with handling it makes up for it in traction on loose surfaces, and a lot of rally is loose surface. In this vid there are many two wheel drive cars holding there own, but the writing was on the wall. Suspension and drive systems got better and soon the four wheel drive cars were very dominant.
    While I've driven fairly quick four wheel drive cars I still prefer driving a two wheel drive car. Rear wheel drive is fav but front drive is really fun in low powered cars. Just so much fun.
    Racing can be learned but the will to push hard has to come from inside.

    • @StewartEvans52
      @StewartEvans52 2 месяца назад

      Bullshit

    • @MostlyPennyCat
      @MostlyPennyCat Месяц назад

      What did you drive?

    • @adventuresinmusic2487
      @adventuresinmusic2487 Месяц назад +1

      @@MostlyPennyCat I rallied a 78 Ford Fiesta in the WRC with stock engine. I had the lowest HP car in the rally but was not the slowest ... small victories.LOL
      The navigator took me into never never land and we couldn't recover. In two tries at WRC with two different navigators. Lost then time barred. Makes a guy want to scream.
      I won a local championship in a 510 and my favorite car was an Opel Manta A. Such a nice handling car.

    • @GEORGE.M.M
      @GEORGE.M.M 7 дней назад

      ​@@adventuresinmusic2487 Thats a really interesting life you have lived being able to race in the historic Group B. You should post a podcast about your experiences rallying. Did you participate in any other formats or competitions like safari rally?

    • @adventuresinmusic2487
      @adventuresinmusic2487 6 дней назад

      @@GEORGE.M.M I eventually got price out of stage rally. So expensive. I did some entry level stock car racing. That was seriously fun. My ability to opposite lock put me in good stead. I never went beyond entry level. It was just a fun thing for me.
      Have run the Alcan Winter Rally three times. Seattle to the Arctic Ocean on snow. Lots of stories. Driving down the frozen Mackensie River onto the Arctic Ocean into a red sunrise with snow dogs on each side, numinous. Or running a ton on the Alaska Hwy just because. Atigun Pass. Snow white outs. That one slide that went right up to the rock wall with me fighting for traction and never giving up. It pulled out but it was close. All at a whopping 35mph.
      Or entering Racing Bridge with a downshift in the corner at 85mph. I have it on video.
      That was on cold rubber, no studs. Les Schwab retreads.
      On that rally one day we did 900mi of snow.

  • @noisebleeder6096
    @noisebleeder6096 2 месяца назад +2

    I used to watch group B rally at tv in my young age , was totally in love with Michelle Mouton , the lady you can see driving that Audi quattro ( she is still alive and kicking ) . Result is when I finally got my driver licence : my first car was a Lancia Delta HF Integral that took fire so I bought a Subaru gt2000 , the last version of the Impreza just before the WRX , kept it 10 years and finally sold it cause it was a neck breaker . Those years of Goup B where just amazing and so dangerous but with that smell of real freedom and craziness . Now I'm 51 and a total Honda fanboy , driving low and slow for just the pleasure of cruisin' . I'm a bit nostalgic of that era even if death was behind each corner ! Cheers from France and thanks for this one :)

  • @LePhil79
    @LePhil79 Месяц назад +7

    16:07 Group B was mainly a European thing - in the 80s - you can't expect them to not smoking while doing .. anything !

  • @milesdust3465
    @milesdust3465 4 месяца назад +5

    I just ordered a Tesla model 3 Performance. The Lancia Delta S4 was faster 0-100 km/h on gravel in those days. Around 2,5 seconds. It was totally insane and i grew up with it and I am grateful that they stopped it. It was totally insane from all perspectives. Cheers from Italy.

  • @NatPat-yj2or
    @NatPat-yj2or Месяц назад +3

    I miss my Audi A6 BiTurbo Quattro. I was born and raised in the far north of Maine, now I live on the south coast of Maine and my family and friends are all over the state, so this required a lot of traveling long distances in really really bad weather in the winter. I got myself some of the best studded winter tires and put them on the Audi, and it stuck to the road. Blizzard conditions with half a foot of snow on the highway, everyone was driving 40 (speed limit is 75 on the I95), meaning the conditions were REALLY bad. For some reason, I could go as fast as I wanted, and my damn Audi would stick to the road. It was freaking incredible. I could do 100-120 miles an hour in a blizzard with less than 10 feet visibility, half a foot of snow on the road, and the car would go exactly where I pointed the wheel. I couldn't even make it lose traction if I tried. I drive a Yukon now but I miss the Audi. My sister bought an A6 brand new last year because she travels in Maine also and she had experienced my A6 and knew how well it performed. We both swear by the Quattro system. We trust our lives to the Audi Quattro system, and this is where it all began.

  • @DrMcKay66
    @DrMcKay66 4 месяца назад +12

    One storie from back then is that when Michelle came to a service after a few crazy stages that was over crowded the mechanics found a finger in an air intake on her audi. Talk about being close to the racing. 😮😂

  • @toomasargel8503
    @toomasargel8503 4 месяца назад +13

    03:06 tht driver is Michelle Mounton .Yes she is now 74 tody 8/17/24 birthdy but she won in Group B mny medls ..encluding one GOLD !

    • @00225236
      @00225236 4 месяца назад +2

      She is arguably one of the best if not the best Female driver, at least in these type of races. She held the quattro pikes peak record for a decent time of i remember correctly.

    • @PernelTV
      @PernelTV 3 месяца назад +1

      Michèle Mouton* 👍

  • @zevlovex222
    @zevlovex222 Месяц назад +2

    Michele “Black Volcano” Mouton and her navigtor Fabrizia Pons - The most dominant lady duo in motorsports that ever was!!!

  • @RumboRack-u7u
    @RumboRack-u7u Месяц назад +1

    This Monster V.8.and 580.hp.this Kamikaze Pilots.Drunk Smoke Ladies.Every Race maby the Last.it was the Most Dangerous Motorsport in the History..Sorry my english im a German🇩🇪🤝🇺🇲

  • @markocoric9233
    @markocoric9233 3 месяца назад +6

    That was golden age of Motorsport

  • @jacobkeegan721
    @jacobkeegan721 2 месяца назад +1

    One of the craziest things about this era of rally was the power to weight ratio of the cars that raced: the 1986 Audi Quattro S1 E2's 2.1 Liter Turbo Inline-5 engine was rated at a minimum of 583 HP and the car itself weighed only 2400 LBS! It was rumored to accelerate to 60 mph in 2.1 sec on GRAVEL!
    This was a time when rally cars were only a couple of seconds off the pace of Formula 1 cars on pavement!

  • @memorialcardscork2005
    @memorialcardscork2005 3 месяца назад +3

    the crash you saw in portugal was on the Cintra stage, the Ford RS200 came over a brow and there were spectators in the middle of the road. with most cars being mid engined the noise is at the back, so by the time he came over the crest of the road, being so fast they never heard Santos (the driver ,local man) he swerved to miss them and crashed into spectators, killing 3 injuring more than 30 some kids, he was blamed for it and Ford were also blamed because that driver was not experienced enough to be driving a Ford backed Group B car... yet the marshals and event organisers really were to blame, no control whatsoever

  • @hugovilag
    @hugovilag 4 месяца назад +8

    This video's been a favourite of mine since Antti posted it. It visually tells the whole Group B story: Audi released the Quattro, and dominates, then Audi and Lancia duke it out until Peugeot shows up to the battle; cars get faster, evolutions are made and legends are born, the S1E2, T16 E2 and Delta S4 arrive; Portugal '86 gives Group B their first big scare: local hero Joaquim Santos goes off into the crowd after avoiding another group of spectators, 3 (recently is believed to have been 4) are killed, and many more injured, manufacturers and drivers pull out of the event as a protest of the null crowd control; the season reaches Corsica, where Henri Toivonen and codriver Sergio Cresto both die in a horrific crash, 1 year to the day of Attilio Bettega's death in another Lancia at Corsica too; inmediate action is taken: Balestre bans Group B and the future Group S right on the spot, 1986 would its last ever year in competition; Audi pulls completely out of the championship, Lancia and Peugeot are left alone to fight the driver's and constructor's championships; (not showed in the video) Peugeot wins;
    Group B is no more

    • @snuffybg
      @snuffybg 3 месяца назад

      Agree but cars become less and less safe for drivers and for the public pushing those limits without strict rules and now all we have are memories of this amazing rally group.

    • @hugovilag
      @hugovilag 3 месяца назад

      @@snuffybg What I wrote wasn't an opinion but anyway 🤣. Group B cars were hazardous to their crews not because of their crazy power and roughness, but because the lack of regulation on the materials allowed for use in safety elements such us roll cages, that in many cases ended up being built out of thin aluminium..., not the spec you want to bear the forces of a crash. The Group B cars were difficult machines to drive, demanded everything from the driver and a good codriver sat next to it, but they weren't dangerous because of it, but off their construction.

  • @DuBstep115
    @DuBstep115 Месяц назад +2

    Drinking milk, Marlboro headband and hotboxing in the fastest car the world has ever seen. Yeah that's 80s
    The drivers where a wreck because every time they drove it was a life and death battle.

  • @thomasblack3675
    @thomasblack3675 2 месяца назад +3

    I think that lady was one of the first to become a WRC champ.

    • @kennethprocak5176
      @kennethprocak5176 14 дней назад

      She broke a gear box in the safari and cost her the drivers title. She was one of the best drivers of the era.

  • @jamesparsons-ji4qy
    @jamesparsons-ji4qy 2 месяца назад +1

    fi fighter pilots group b most skilful and very lucky to drive those cars

  • @christopheboiral9550
    @christopheboiral9550 Месяц назад +1

    Michele Mouton Championne du Monde en 1981 sur Audi Quattro

  • @vintageman91
    @vintageman91 4 месяца назад +2

    Loud, relatively fast and spectacular cars in motorsport has been a thing since even before ww2.
    The absolute fastest speeds on the track was over 200mph already in the 1930s.

    • @juutuubassa
      @juutuubassa 4 месяца назад +1

      Yeah but not in the forrest with trees about 2 meters from the road +gravel or snow and ice,so its no comparable

    • @00225236
      @00225236 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@juutuubassatrue but that is most likely not what he is saying, more so the fact that crazy powerfull and innovative racing machines were around for a long time before the 1980's because in the vid he said he didn't knew they had cars like these at that time. Not comparing anything, just giving some fact about motorsport/racing

  • @JanTMyhre
    @JanTMyhre 22 дня назад +2

    In Norway. We drive on ice/black ice, all the time in winter. You just need spesiale winter tires. Than it is realy not a problem..
    Please reasech The Black Vulcano. It is a rallydriver, in groupe B.......!??!!!!

  • @rickschweiger2802
    @rickschweiger2802 Месяц назад +1

    I was Born 1973 and aß child i wish of my Job are a Rally driver!

  • @00225236
    @00225236 4 месяца назад +7

    16:07 i get what your saying but trust me when i say those sigs were the least of their troubles, these cars were so physically and mentally demanding and draining to drive at that level that frequently combined with the external dangers caused by bad safety regulations and the spectators that in time they just got physically ill, back and muscles hurting, les power in your movement, worse stamina, anxiety, stress, vision impairment, You name it. It takes a heavy toll and combined with the deaths things just went to far but as you heared (Woman in the audio clip, also the wife of the driver in the previous interviews, wich is the driver of the lancia that burnt down on the hillside😢) the car companies started to make the drivers race without being able to pull out for whatever reason resulting in drivers going in over exhausted mentally strained resulting in worse performance and accidents and ultimately in the deaths of drivers aswell. Conclusion end of group b 😢
    Also back then besides being in the open air, whenever you were 'inside" like in a car, a plane or your living room, people would be hotboxing those sigs like crazy. Everywhere all the time 😂

  • @rogerhouben9230
    @rogerhouben9230 22 дня назад +3

    When in doubt go full gas

  • @berounmv7024
    @berounmv7024 4 месяца назад +1

    1:52 Four-wheel drive was already used by some Jeeps during the Second World War, but it was only an attempt at it. The Audi Quattro was the first car in the world to have the first efficient four-wheel drive. That is why the Audi car company has the 4 rings in its logo.

    • @ingeborgdietmar
      @ingeborgdietmar 4 месяца назад +1

      The 4 rings have nothing to do with the quattro, they are from the old times, when Horch, DKW, Wanderer and Auto Union decited to build a big group. Audi was at the end the successor from this 4 brands for the future name. And as a side fact: Audi is Horch, it's just latin, so even today the original lives on 😅

    • @00225236
      @00225236 4 месяца назад +1

      You are correct about the 4-wd but the rings are something completely different.
      Four interlocking rings symbolised the merger of four automobile manufacturers based in the German state of Saxony: Audi, DKW, Horch and Wanderer became Auto Union AG, then the second-largest motor vehicle manufacturing group in Germany.

    • @00225236
      @00225236 4 месяца назад +1

      ​@@ingeborgdietmar lol.i read your comment after i wrote mine basically saying the same ✌️

  • @richardhoyau936
    @richardhoyau936 Месяц назад +1

    Mesdames et messieurs cette une femme qui était derrière le volant de la plus puissante voiture de l époque et de rallye B ..
    et elle s appelait Michèle mouton ..
    la plus grande pilote de rallye de l histoire..
    son surnom ?? Le beau volcan noir
    Et elle était mon idole.!!
    cette Fury française a terminé le rallye 1982 en cote d ivoire avec une pénalité de 1 h 20 .
    une boite a vitesse casser et remplacer sur l épreuve.
    étant première au classement mais perdant son avance sur le deuxième et fera une sortie de piste avec plusieurs tonneaux elle en sortira indemne et finira 2 ème avec 13 minutes d avance sur rorhr le premier.
    mais la légende ne s' arrête pas la .
    on apprendra plus Tard que le père de Michèle mouton est mort quelques heures avant le départ de l épreuve tout le monde lui conseillait d abandonné.
    même sa copilote
    Et c' est sa maman au téléphone qui lui a dit que son père qui l avait poussé à devenir ce qu elle était ,il
    n' aurais pas aimé qu' elle abandonne..
    apres la mort de son père elle ne fut plus la même.
    sa copilote racontera plus tard que pendant la course Michelle mouton pleurait régulièrement ce qui a mon sens résume ce que cette femme était.
    rorhr le vainqueur du rallye 1982 dira que le véritable vainqueur de ce rallye c' était michele mouton je suis étonné que le cinéma ne c' est pas emparer de cette fabuleuse histoire féminine

  • @DerkvanL
    @DerkvanL Месяц назад +2

    A girls driver? Michelle Mouton was the best female racing-driver ever. The only female racing driver that won a world-class ralley race.

    • @kennethprocak5176
      @kennethprocak5176 14 дней назад

      She missed the drivers title on points because of a broken gearbox in the last rally. It was more than one rally she won. One of the top drivers of the era.

  • @AMartins92
    @AMartins92 4 месяца назад +2

    Dude I dig the rally reactions! When you’re ready to move on, check out the Group A rally footage and Colin McRae’s quick documentary. Group A came after Group B.

  • @toomasargel8503
    @toomasargel8503 4 месяца назад +4

    Lancia Stratos was Ferrari enigne !!!!

    • @00225236
      @00225236 4 месяца назад

      Yup Ferrari v6 🤌

    • @cifani3f
      @cifani3f 3 месяца назад

      la Lancia Stratos NON correva nel Gruppo B.

  • @leumas.banks43
    @leumas.banks43 3 месяца назад +1

    17:02, the reason for that was that the car was too light and too powerful. The lancia delta S4 has almost 500hp with a weight less than a Miata. It was a full tube frame chassis, and the body was full kevlar and fiberglass. This made them very light and very fragile, which made the car unsafe for drivers and spectators.
    If group B was not cancelled, there was another rally class called group S, and that one should have been more crazier and wilder than group B. Thankfully it didn't happen.

  • @simonbaumhard1400
    @simonbaumhard1400 Месяц назад +1

    UZS to soft N gulp trompet

  • @pikminologueraisin2139
    @pikminologueraisin2139 4 месяца назад +2

    antti made great videos. watch the ari vatanen one (it's part group B)

  • @simonbaumhard1400
    @simonbaumhard1400 Месяц назад +1

    Too old i'm really in a fucking track. .. americans are on platty donuts !! Here to pals wehabe 2 Sébastien !!

  • @toomasargel8503
    @toomasargel8503 4 месяца назад +1

    10:30 no C in cr ..correct and summer days race inside car was 65 C / 150F hot

  • @klukzgaraze
    @klukzgaraze 7 дней назад

    the creepy music is koyaanisqatsi, have a look at the movie, or just the trailer, worth it :-)

  • @Steven4cr
    @Steven4cr 2 месяца назад +1

    16.00 he didnt smoke look better😊

  • @hernandesvaz9282
    @hernandesvaz9282 14 дней назад

    R.I.P Henri Toivonen

  • @berounmv7024
    @berounmv7024 4 месяца назад +2

    9:47 Porsche 911 SC

  • @Stickleback
    @Stickleback 14 дней назад

    Group B cars
    Group B fans.

  • @const2499
    @const2499 4 месяца назад +1

  • @toomasargel8503
    @toomasargel8503 2 месяца назад +1

    14:06 31 injured n .. 3 dead

  • @kennethprocak5176
    @kennethprocak5176 14 дней назад

    Ironic doing a drivers suit fire test. But the car is a fragile speeding fuel tank.

  • @vettakisu
    @vettakisu 4 месяца назад +1

    React to rally crashes and onboard clips

  • @miztazed
    @miztazed 3 месяца назад +3

    OMG!!!! Alcohol. Cigarettes. Spectators to narrow. A woman behind the wheel. Best examples to trigger the USA "the land of the free" Hahahaha......

    • @falt.a7350
      @falt.a7350 2 месяца назад

      In 80s and 90s we can evrything..... I goes to Montecarlo rally ( col de Touriní) with my father with 20liters of red wine and 40 beers for friends in My Fiat ritmo105.... I was 19yo...
      Now.... "" They"" want you silent and stupid..... Better worker.... Uncultured and resilient...... It's time people!!!!!!!! 😢😢😢😢
      You know what I mean???????
      An Italian former mountain trooper Alpini son of 90s 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹