I'm an old geezer. I drove in the last Group B rally. I was terrible slow but I was out there. An amazing time for Rally. Everyone goes on and on about four wheel drive but forget that turbocharging finally became usable. Huge horsepower increases. Near double in the beginning and then kept increasing each year. While four wheel drive has its issues with handling it makes up for it in traction on loose surfaces, and a lot of rally is loose surface. In this vid there are many two wheel drive cars holding there own, but the writing was on the wall. Suspension and drive systems got better and soon the four wheel drive cars were very dominant. While I've driven fairly quick four wheel drive cars I still prefer driving a two wheel drive car. Rear wheel drive is fav but front drive is really fun in low powered cars. Just so much fun. Racing can be learned but the will to push hard has to come from inside.
@@MostlyPennyCat I rallied a 78 Ford Fiesta in the WRC with stock engine. I had the lowest HP car in the rally but was not the slowest ... small victories.LOL The navigator took me into never never land and we couldn't recover. In two tries at WRC with two different navigators. Lost then time barred. Makes a guy want to scream. I won a local championship in a 510 and my favorite car was an Opel Manta A. Such a nice handling car.
the girl driver is Michelle Mouton, she won multiple races and finished the 1982 championship in second place driving for Audi. nowadays shes some president type position in the FIA, the organization in charge of these events. She was the leading force in making these rally events safer over the years.
I used to watch group B rally at tv in my young age , was totally in love with Michelle Mouton , the lady you can see driving that Audi quattro ( she is still alive and kicking ) . Result is when I finally got my driver licence : my first car was a Lancia Delta HF Integral that took fire so I bought a Subaru gt2000 , the last version of the Impreza just before the WRX , kept it 10 years and finally sold it cause it was a neck breaker . Those years of Goup B where just amazing and so dangerous but with that smell of real freedom and craziness . Now I'm 51 and a total Honda fanboy , driving low and slow for just the pleasure of cruisin' . I'm a bit nostalgic of that era even if death was behind each corner ! Cheers from France and thanks for this one :)
One storie from back then is that when Michelle came to a service after a few crazy stages that was over crowded the mechanics found a finger in an air intake on her audi. Talk about being close to the racing. 😮😂
She is arguably one of the best if not the best Female driver, at least in these type of races. She held the quattro pikes peak record for a decent time of i remember correctly.
Drinking milk, Marlboro headband and hotboxing in the fastest car the world has ever seen. Yeah that's 80s The drivers where a wreck because every time they drove it was a life and death battle.
I just ordered a Tesla model 3 Performance. The Lancia Delta S4 was faster 0-100 km/h on gravel in those days. Around 2,5 seconds. It was totally insane and i grew up with it and I am grateful that they stopped it. It was totally insane from all perspectives. Cheers from Italy.
This video's been a favourite of mine since Antti posted it. It visually tells the whole Group B story: Audi released the Quattro, and dominates, then Audi and Lancia duke it out until Peugeot shows up to the battle; cars get faster, evolutions are made and legends are born, the S1E2, T16 E2 and Delta S4 arrive; Portugal '86 gives Group B their first big scare: local hero Joaquim Santos goes off into the crowd after avoiding another group of spectators, 3 (recently is believed to have been 4) are killed, and many more injured, manufacturers and drivers pull out of the event as a protest of the null crowd control; the season reaches Corsica, where Henri Toivonen and codriver Sergio Cresto both die in a horrific crash, 1 year to the day of Attilio Bettega's death in another Lancia at Corsica too; inmediate action is taken: Balestre bans Group B and the future Group S right on the spot, 1986 would its last ever year in competition; Audi pulls completely out of the championship, Lancia and Peugeot are left alone to fight the driver's and constructor's championships; (not showed in the video) Peugeot wins; Group B is no more
Agree but cars become less and less safe for drivers and for the public pushing those limits without strict rules and now all we have are memories of this amazing rally group.
@@snuffybg What I wrote wasn't an opinion but anyway 🤣. Group B cars were hazardous to their crews not because of their crazy power and roughness, but because the lack of regulation on the materials allowed for use in safety elements such us roll cages, that in many cases ended up being built out of thin aluminium..., not the spec you want to bear the forces of a crash. The Group B cars were difficult machines to drive, demanded everything from the driver and a good codriver sat next to it, but they weren't dangerous because of it, but off their construction.
16:07 i get what your saying but trust me when i say those sigs were the least of their troubles, these cars were so physically and mentally demanding and draining to drive at that level that frequently combined with the external dangers caused by bad safety regulations and the spectators that in time they just got physically ill, back and muscles hurting, les power in your movement, worse stamina, anxiety, stress, vision impairment, You name it. It takes a heavy toll and combined with the deaths things just went to far but as you heared (Woman in the audio clip, also the wife of the driver in the previous interviews, wich is the driver of the lancia that burnt down on the hillside😢) the car companies started to make the drivers race without being able to pull out for whatever reason resulting in drivers going in over exhausted mentally strained resulting in worse performance and accidents and ultimately in the deaths of drivers aswell. Conclusion end of group b 😢 Also back then besides being in the open air, whenever you were 'inside" like in a car, a plane or your living room, people would be hotboxing those sigs like crazy. Everywhere all the time 😂
One of the craziest things about this era of rally was the power to weight ratio of the cars that raced: the 1986 Audi Quattro S1 E2's 2.1 Liter Turbo Inline-5 engine was rated at a minimum of 583 HP and the car itself weighed only 2400 LBS! It was rumored to accelerate to 60 mph in 2.1 sec on GRAVEL! This was a time when rally cars were only a couple of seconds off the pace of Formula 1 cars on pavement!
the crash you saw in portugal was on the Cintra stage, the Ford RS200 came over a brow and there were spectators in the middle of the road. with most cars being mid engined the noise is at the back, so by the time he came over the crest of the road, being so fast they never heard Santos (the driver ,local man) he swerved to miss them and crashed into spectators, killing 3 injuring more than 30 some kids, he was blamed for it and Ford were also blamed because that driver was not experienced enough to be driving a Ford backed Group B car... yet the marshals and event organisers really were to blame, no control whatsoever
This Monster V.8.and 580.hp.this Kamikaze Pilots.Drunk Smoke Ladies.Every Race maby the Last.it was the Most Dangerous Motorsport in the History..Sorry my english im a German🇩🇪🤝🇺🇲
Loud, relatively fast and spectacular cars in motorsport has been a thing since even before ww2. The absolute fastest speeds on the track was over 200mph already in the 1930s.
@@juutuubassatrue but that is most likely not what he is saying, more so the fact that crazy powerfull and innovative racing machines were around for a long time before the 1980's because in the vid he said he didn't knew they had cars like these at that time. Not comparing anything, just giving some fact about motorsport/racing
Dude I dig the rally reactions! When you’re ready to move on, check out the Group A rally footage and Colin McRae’s quick documentary. Group A came after Group B.
1:52 Four-wheel drive was already used by some Jeeps during the Second World War, but it was only an attempt at it. The Audi Quattro was the first car in the world to have the first efficient four-wheel drive. That is why the Audi car company has the 4 rings in its logo.
The 4 rings have nothing to do with the quattro, they are from the old times, when Horch, DKW, Wanderer and Auto Union decited to build a big group. Audi was at the end the successor from this 4 brands for the future name. And as a side fact: Audi is Horch, it's just latin, so even today the original lives on 😅
You are correct about the 4-wd but the rings are something completely different. Four interlocking rings symbolised the merger of four automobile manufacturers based in the German state of Saxony: Audi, DKW, Horch and Wanderer became Auto Union AG, then the second-largest motor vehicle manufacturing group in Germany.
17:02, the reason for that was that the car was too light and too powerful. The lancia delta S4 has almost 500hp with a weight less than a Miata. It was a full tube frame chassis, and the body was full kevlar and fiberglass. This made them very light and very fragile, which made the car unsafe for drivers and spectators. If group B was not cancelled, there was another rally class called group S, and that one should have been more crazier and wilder than group B. Thankfully it didn't happen.
Mesdames et messieurs cette une femme qui était derrière le volant de la plus puissante voiture de l époque et de rallye B .. et elle s appelait Michèle mouton .. la plus grande pilote de rallye de l histoire.. son surnom ?? Le beau volcan noir Et elle était mon idole.!! cette Fury française a terminé le rallye 1982 en cote d ivoire avec une pénalité de 1 h 20 . une boite a vitesse casser et remplacer sur l épreuve. étant première au classement mais perdant son avance sur le deuxième et fera une sortie de piste avec plusieurs tonneaux elle en sortira indemne et finira 2 ème avec 13 minutes d avance sur rorhr le premier. mais la légende ne s' arrête pas la . on apprendra plus Tard que le père de Michèle mouton est mort quelques heures avant le départ de l épreuve tout le monde lui conseillait d abandonné. même sa copilote Et c' est sa maman au téléphone qui lui a dit que son père qui l avait poussé à devenir ce qu elle était ,il n' aurais pas aimé qu' elle abandonne.. apres la mort de son père elle ne fut plus la même. sa copilote racontera plus tard que pendant la course Michelle mouton pleurait régulièrement ce qui a mon sens résume ce que cette femme était. rorhr le vainqueur du rallye 1982 dira que le véritable vainqueur de ce rallye c' était michele mouton je suis étonné que le cinéma ne c' est pas emparer de cette fabuleuse histoire féminine
In 80s and 90s we can evrything..... I goes to Montecarlo rally ( col de Touriní) with my father with 20liters of red wine and 40 beers for friends in My Fiat ritmo105.... I was 19yo... Now.... "" They"" want you silent and stupid..... Better worker.... Uncultured and resilient...... It's time people!!!!!!!! 😢😢😢😢 You know what I mean??????? An Italian former mountain trooper Alpini son of 90s 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
I'm an old geezer. I drove in the last Group B rally. I was terrible slow but I was out there. An amazing time for Rally. Everyone goes on and on about four wheel drive but forget that turbocharging finally became usable. Huge horsepower increases. Near double in the beginning and then kept increasing each year. While four wheel drive has its issues with handling it makes up for it in traction on loose surfaces, and a lot of rally is loose surface. In this vid there are many two wheel drive cars holding there own, but the writing was on the wall. Suspension and drive systems got better and soon the four wheel drive cars were very dominant.
While I've driven fairly quick four wheel drive cars I still prefer driving a two wheel drive car. Rear wheel drive is fav but front drive is really fun in low powered cars. Just so much fun.
Racing can be learned but the will to push hard has to come from inside.
Bullshit
What did you drive?
@@MostlyPennyCat I rallied a 78 Ford Fiesta in the WRC with stock engine. I had the lowest HP car in the rally but was not the slowest ... small victories.LOL
The navigator took me into never never land and we couldn't recover. In two tries at WRC with two different navigators. Lost then time barred. Makes a guy want to scream.
I won a local championship in a 510 and my favorite car was an Opel Manta A. Such a nice handling car.
16:07 Group B was mainly a European thing - in the 80s - you can't expect them to not smoking while doing .. anything !
the girl driver is Michelle Mouton, she won multiple races and finished the 1982 championship in second place driving for Audi. nowadays shes some president type position in the FIA, the organization in charge of these events. She was the leading force in making these rally events safer over the years.
Ya, "that girl", haha :)
I used to watch group B rally at tv in my young age , was totally in love with Michelle Mouton , the lady you can see driving that Audi quattro ( she is still alive and kicking ) . Result is when I finally got my driver licence : my first car was a Lancia Delta HF Integral that took fire so I bought a Subaru gt2000 , the last version of the Impreza just before the WRX , kept it 10 years and finally sold it cause it was a neck breaker . Those years of Goup B where just amazing and so dangerous but with that smell of real freedom and craziness . Now I'm 51 and a total Honda fanboy , driving low and slow for just the pleasure of cruisin' . I'm a bit nostalgic of that era even if death was behind each corner ! Cheers from France and thanks for this one :)
One storie from back then is that when Michelle came to a service after a few crazy stages that was over crowded the mechanics found a finger in an air intake on her audi. Talk about being close to the racing. 😮😂
03:06 tht driver is Michelle Mounton .Yes she is now 74 tody 8/17/24 birthdy but she won in Group B mny medls ..encluding one GOLD !
She is arguably one of the best if not the best Female driver, at least in these type of races. She held the quattro pikes peak record for a decent time of i remember correctly.
Michèle Mouton* 👍
Drinking milk, Marlboro headband and hotboxing in the fastest car the world has ever seen. Yeah that's 80s
The drivers where a wreck because every time they drove it was a life and death battle.
That was golden age of Motorsport
I just ordered a Tesla model 3 Performance. The Lancia Delta S4 was faster 0-100 km/h on gravel in those days. Around 2,5 seconds. It was totally insane and i grew up with it and I am grateful that they stopped it. It was totally insane from all perspectives. Cheers from Italy.
This video's been a favourite of mine since Antti posted it. It visually tells the whole Group B story: Audi released the Quattro, and dominates, then Audi and Lancia duke it out until Peugeot shows up to the battle; cars get faster, evolutions are made and legends are born, the S1E2, T16 E2 and Delta S4 arrive; Portugal '86 gives Group B their first big scare: local hero Joaquim Santos goes off into the crowd after avoiding another group of spectators, 3 (recently is believed to have been 4) are killed, and many more injured, manufacturers and drivers pull out of the event as a protest of the null crowd control; the season reaches Corsica, where Henri Toivonen and codriver Sergio Cresto both die in a horrific crash, 1 year to the day of Attilio Bettega's death in another Lancia at Corsica too; inmediate action is taken: Balestre bans Group B and the future Group S right on the spot, 1986 would its last ever year in competition; Audi pulls completely out of the championship, Lancia and Peugeot are left alone to fight the driver's and constructor's championships; (not showed in the video) Peugeot wins;
Group B is no more
Agree but cars become less and less safe for drivers and for the public pushing those limits without strict rules and now all we have are memories of this amazing rally group.
@@snuffybg What I wrote wasn't an opinion but anyway 🤣. Group B cars were hazardous to their crews not because of their crazy power and roughness, but because the lack of regulation on the materials allowed for use in safety elements such us roll cages, that in many cases ended up being built out of thin aluminium..., not the spec you want to bear the forces of a crash. The Group B cars were difficult machines to drive, demanded everything from the driver and a good codriver sat next to it, but they weren't dangerous because of it, but off their construction.
16:07 i get what your saying but trust me when i say those sigs were the least of their troubles, these cars were so physically and mentally demanding and draining to drive at that level that frequently combined with the external dangers caused by bad safety regulations and the spectators that in time they just got physically ill, back and muscles hurting, les power in your movement, worse stamina, anxiety, stress, vision impairment, You name it. It takes a heavy toll and combined with the deaths things just went to far but as you heared (Woman in the audio clip, also the wife of the driver in the previous interviews, wich is the driver of the lancia that burnt down on the hillside😢) the car companies started to make the drivers race without being able to pull out for whatever reason resulting in drivers going in over exhausted mentally strained resulting in worse performance and accidents and ultimately in the deaths of drivers aswell. Conclusion end of group b 😢
Also back then besides being in the open air, whenever you were 'inside" like in a car, a plane or your living room, people would be hotboxing those sigs like crazy. Everywhere all the time 😂
Michele “Black Volcano” Mouton and her navigtor Fabrizia Pons - The most dominant lady duo in motorsports that ever was!!!
One of the craziest things about this era of rally was the power to weight ratio of the cars that raced: the 1986 Audi Quattro S1 E2's 2.1 Liter Turbo Inline-5 engine was rated at a minimum of 583 HP and the car itself weighed only 2400 LBS! It was rumored to accelerate to 60 mph in 2.1 sec on GRAVEL!
This was a time when rally cars were only a couple of seconds off the pace of Formula 1 cars on pavement!
the crash you saw in portugal was on the Cintra stage, the Ford RS200 came over a brow and there were spectators in the middle of the road. with most cars being mid engined the noise is at the back, so by the time he came over the crest of the road, being so fast they never heard Santos (the driver ,local man) he swerved to miss them and crashed into spectators, killing 3 injuring more than 30 some kids, he was blamed for it and Ford were also blamed because that driver was not experienced enough to be driving a Ford backed Group B car... yet the marshals and event organisers really were to blame, no control whatsoever
I think that lady was one of the first to become a WRC champ.
This Monster V.8.and 580.hp.this Kamikaze Pilots.Drunk Smoke Ladies.Every Race maby the Last.it was the Most Dangerous Motorsport in the History..Sorry my english im a German🇩🇪🤝🇺🇲
Loud, relatively fast and spectacular cars in motorsport has been a thing since even before ww2.
The absolute fastest speeds on the track was over 200mph already in the 1930s.
Yeah but not in the forrest with trees about 2 meters from the road +gravel or snow and ice,so its no comparable
@@juutuubassatrue but that is most likely not what he is saying, more so the fact that crazy powerfull and innovative racing machines were around for a long time before the 1980's because in the vid he said he didn't knew they had cars like these at that time. Not comparing anything, just giving some fact about motorsport/racing
fi fighter pilots group b most skilful and very lucky to drive those cars
Dude I dig the rally reactions! When you’re ready to move on, check out the Group A rally footage and Colin McRae’s quick documentary. Group A came after Group B.
Lancia Stratos was Ferrari enigne !!!!
Yup Ferrari v6 🤌
la Lancia Stratos NON correva nel Gruppo B.
I was Born 1973 and aß child i wish of my Job are a Rally driver!
1:52 Four-wheel drive was already used by some Jeeps during the Second World War, but it was only an attempt at it. The Audi Quattro was the first car in the world to have the first efficient four-wheel drive. That is why the Audi car company has the 4 rings in its logo.
The 4 rings have nothing to do with the quattro, they are from the old times, when Horch, DKW, Wanderer and Auto Union decited to build a big group. Audi was at the end the successor from this 4 brands for the future name. And as a side fact: Audi is Horch, it's just latin, so even today the original lives on 😅
You are correct about the 4-wd but the rings are something completely different.
Four interlocking rings symbolised the merger of four automobile manufacturers based in the German state of Saxony: Audi, DKW, Horch and Wanderer became Auto Union AG, then the second-largest motor vehicle manufacturing group in Germany.
@@ingeborgdietmar lol.i read your comment after i wrote mine basically saying the same ✌️
antti made great videos. watch the ari vatanen one (it's part group B)
17:02, the reason for that was that the car was too light and too powerful. The lancia delta S4 has almost 500hp with a weight less than a Miata. It was a full tube frame chassis, and the body was full kevlar and fiberglass. This made them very light and very fragile, which made the car unsafe for drivers and spectators.
If group B was not cancelled, there was another rally class called group S, and that one should have been more crazier and wilder than group B. Thankfully it didn't happen.
Michele Mouton Championne du Monde en 1981 sur Audi Quattro
9:47 Porsche 911 SC
Mesdames et messieurs cette une femme qui était derrière le volant de la plus puissante voiture de l époque et de rallye B ..
et elle s appelait Michèle mouton ..
la plus grande pilote de rallye de l histoire..
son surnom ?? Le beau volcan noir
Et elle était mon idole.!!
cette Fury française a terminé le rallye 1982 en cote d ivoire avec une pénalité de 1 h 20 .
une boite a vitesse casser et remplacer sur l épreuve.
étant première au classement mais perdant son avance sur le deuxième et fera une sortie de piste avec plusieurs tonneaux elle en sortira indemne et finira 2 ème avec 13 minutes d avance sur rorhr le premier.
mais la légende ne s' arrête pas la .
on apprendra plus Tard que le père de Michèle mouton est mort quelques heures avant le départ de l épreuve tout le monde lui conseillait d abandonné.
même sa copilote
Et c' est sa maman au téléphone qui lui a dit que son père qui l avait poussé à devenir ce qu elle était ,il
n' aurais pas aimé qu' elle abandonne..
apres la mort de son père elle ne fut plus la même.
sa copilote racontera plus tard que pendant la course Michelle mouton pleurait régulièrement ce qui a mon sens résume ce que cette femme était.
rorhr le vainqueur du rallye 1982 dira que le véritable vainqueur de ce rallye c' était michele mouton je suis étonné que le cinéma ne c' est pas emparer de cette fabuleuse histoire féminine
10:30 no C in cr ..correct and summer days race inside car was 65 C / 150F hot
A girls driver? Michelle Mouton was the best female racing-driver ever. The only female racing driver that won a world-class ralley race.
OMG!!!! Alcohol. Cigarettes. Spectators to narrow. A woman behind the wheel. Best examples to trigger the USA "the land of the free" Hahahaha......
In 80s and 90s we can evrything..... I goes to Montecarlo rally ( col de Touriní) with my father with 20liters of red wine and 40 beers for friends in My Fiat ritmo105.... I was 19yo...
Now.... "" They"" want you silent and stupid..... Better worker.... Uncultured and resilient...... It's time people!!!!!!!! 😢😢😢😢
You know what I mean???????
An Italian former mountain trooper Alpini son of 90s 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
Too old i'm really in a fucking track. .. americans are on platty donuts !! Here to pals wehabe 2 Sébastien !!
16.00 he didnt smoke look better😊
React to rally crashes and onboard clips
UZS to soft N gulp trompet
14:06 31 injured n .. 3 dead