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For your own benefit, re-read your scripts, you are going over the same material over and over again and it becomes annoying and detracts from what is otherwise quite a good effort ?
Good story, I was lucky and got to ride the USS Trutta SS 421. I was honored to work where those heroes worked. God bless all those that lost their lives in WW two
The sinking of the Japanese submarine 1-73 on 27 January 1942 by the US sub Gudgeon was more important. It was the first time a United States submarine in history to sink an enemy combatant ship. It would not be the last.
@@brucelee3388 That was a midget sub. I think the US sank at least one other midget sub. I think the author is talking about the first full size sub to be sunk .
@@johnfleet235 I-70 was the first fleet sub... Of course, the debate about the midget sub sunk by the USS Ward at the mouth of PH raged until it was confirmed in 2002.
After years of studying WW2 in the Pacific I feel I have read and heard just about ever story. I have also had a job that allowed me to see many of battle sights. You often have to sort out the predgedist of the teller of the story. The Aussies say things like they were the first to defeat a Japanese amphibious assault which was Milne Bay. Actually it was U.S. Sailors and Airmen with Philippine Army Scouts at the battle of the Points in the Philippines. The British like to claim we Yanks act like we defeated the Japanese all by ourselves and leave out Burma and the Royal Navy in the Indian and Pacific. This is sort of true if you get all your History from Hollywood. We Americans like to think the Marines did all the fighting in the Pacific including the first shot fired which myth says was a Marine with a 45 standing next to a plane on the runway at Peral Harbor when in truth it was a sailor on a 4 inch gun on the USS Ward. They like to say the Marines sank the first ship with a 5 inch Shore defences gun on Wake Island when in fact it was the Ward or Enterprise Pilot depending weather you want to count the Midget Submarine or full size L70. The Dutch were actually the first to sink a Japanese Warship with a submarine. Thank you for telling the full story of the L70 from building to loss.
I think you got the names wrong. The SBD that killed I-70 was piloted by Lt. Clarence Dickinson. James Gray was an F4F pilot from VF-6. Also, at least one other submarine was attacked by Enterprise aircraft that day in addition to I-70, namely I-25. You may be conflating the two events together in terms of your order of events. I-25 reported being attacked by a TBD Devastator (obviously an error) which caused no damage. This jibes with the action report of Lt. (jg) Anderson of Bombing 6. The pilot who initially attacked I-70 was probably Ens. Walters of Bombing 6. Lt. Dickinson later finished off I-70. What's interesting is that I-25 reported a second attack on her when she returned to periscope depth some time after the first attack, so either there was an Enterprise attack on a submerged I-25 that wasn't fully reported, or she was close enough to I-70 to mistake the attack on that boat as an attack on herself? There are a number of unanswered questions, here. At least 3-4 submarines were sighted and Enterprise apparently assigned SBDs to locate and attack each of them, so the killing of I-70 wasn't a completely random event. Dickinson's SBD was there for a specific reason. One wonders if Ens. Walters' attack so damaged I-70 that she couldn't submerge. Otherwise, why did she remain on the surface engaging Dickinson's SBD with gunfire? Why not just submerge and escape? Its doubtful that I-70 was simply on the surface charging her batteries at that moment in the middle of an obviously hot combat zone. More likely, she was trying to repair damage from Walters' earlier attack.
FOR DISTANCE'S SAKE: 1.) MIDWAY, possibly 1/2 across the pacific 2.) HAWAII, perhaps 2/3 across the pacifc 3.) 23ND STREET NAVSTA, SD, USA to YOKOSUKA, JAPAN might take one month of steaming underway
Japanese torpedoes had twice the explosive charge,twice the speed,and three to four times the range of US torpedoes!Even the Air dropped torpedoes were more powerful and successful than US ship board torpedoes! A decisive advantage throughout the War!
They few Subs monitoring the sea lanes were all south of Oahu, while the Carriers were northwest of the island. They were also expecting them to still be in port with the Battleships.
Also, the Japanese were well aware that there were no carriers in port care of the very efficient Japanese consulate in Honolulu, not to mention the long range seaplane overflights that the Japanese conducted before the attack.
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For your own benefit, re-read your scripts, you are going over the same material over and over again and it becomes annoying and detracts from what is otherwise quite a good effort ?
Good story, I was lucky and got to ride the USS Trutta SS 421. I was honored to work where those heroes worked. God bless all those that lost their lives in WW two
The sinking of the Japanese submarine 1-73 on 27 January 1942 by the US sub Gudgeon was more important. It was the first time a United States submarine in history to sink an enemy combatant ship. It would not be the last.
Japanese had the best torpedo of the early war, and they completely misused their submarines
The Long Lance Torpedo was a true game changer in early to mid WWII
Not as much as the "runs too deep/doesn't explode/turns back to you" U.S. torpedoes until 1943.
Yet at the end, the game was not close.
It didnt change the game
The Japanese never adopted a good submarine warfare like the Wolfpack, or an effective convoy shipping system like other countries were doing.
The first Japanese ship sunk was a submarine during the Pearl Harbor attack.
Sunk BEFORE the air attack too.
@@brucelee3388 That was a midget sub. I think the US sank at least one other midget sub. I think the author is talking about the first full size sub to be sunk .
@@johnfleet235 I-70 was the first fleet sub...
Of course, the debate about the midget sub sunk by the USS Ward at the mouth of PH raged until it was confirmed in 2002.
@@chrislong3938 I read a history of the search for the midget sub sunk by the USS Ward. Very interesting.
A sub is a sub. The. Authors of this video should point this out.
After years of studying WW2 in the Pacific I feel I have read and heard just about ever story. I have also had a job that allowed me to see many of battle sights. You often have to sort out the predgedist of the teller of the story. The Aussies say things like they were the first to defeat a Japanese amphibious assault which was Milne Bay. Actually it was U.S. Sailors and Airmen with Philippine Army Scouts at the battle of the Points in the Philippines. The British like to claim we Yanks act like we defeated the Japanese all by ourselves and leave out Burma and the Royal Navy in the Indian and Pacific. This is sort of true if you get all your History from Hollywood. We Americans like to think the Marines did all the fighting in the Pacific including the first shot fired which myth says was a Marine with a 45 standing next to a plane on the runway at Peral Harbor when in truth it was a sailor on a 4 inch gun on the USS Ward. They like to say the Marines sank the first ship with a 5 inch Shore defences gun on Wake Island when in fact it was the Ward or Enterprise Pilot depending weather you want to count the Midget Submarine or full size L70. The Dutch were actually the first to sink a Japanese Warship with a submarine. Thank you for telling the full story of the L70 from building to loss.
Good looking boat!
Who charges batteries on the surface during daylight?
The desperate, the foolish, and
the dammed. 😊
It's true. Surfacing to charge batteries is a night time exercise. Daylight should be submerged
Clearly a submarine inviting to be a target!
I think you got the names wrong. The SBD that killed I-70 was piloted by Lt. Clarence Dickinson. James Gray was an F4F pilot from VF-6. Also, at least one other submarine was attacked by Enterprise aircraft that day in addition to I-70, namely I-25. You may be conflating the two events together in terms of your order of events. I-25 reported being attacked by a TBD Devastator (obviously an error) which caused no damage. This jibes with the action report of Lt. (jg) Anderson of Bombing 6. The pilot who initially attacked I-70 was probably Ens. Walters of Bombing 6. Lt. Dickinson later finished off I-70. What's interesting is that I-25 reported a second attack on her when she returned to periscope depth some time after the first attack, so either there was an Enterprise attack on a submerged I-25 that wasn't fully reported, or she was close enough to I-70 to mistake the attack on that boat as an attack on herself? There are a number of unanswered questions, here. At least 3-4 submarines were sighted and Enterprise apparently assigned SBDs to locate and attack each of them, so the killing of I-70 wasn't a completely random event. Dickinson's SBD was there for a specific reason. One wonders if Ens. Walters' attack so damaged I-70 that she couldn't submerge. Otherwise, why did she remain on the surface engaging Dickinson's SBD with gunfire? Why not just submerge and escape? Its doubtful that I-70 was simply on the surface charging her batteries at that moment in the middle of an obviously hot combat zone. More likely, she was trying to repair damage from Walters' earlier attack.
The first Japanese submarine sunk by the US was FAMOUSLY sunk on December 7, 1941, by USS Ward outside Pearl Harbor. Sloppy at best.
Yup.
CONFIRMED 1:32
Wasn't that a Midget submarine with a crew of 2?
Lack of radar. Big deficit.
FOR DISTANCE'S SAKE:
1.) MIDWAY, possibly 1/2 across the pacific
2.) HAWAII, perhaps 2/3 across the pacifc
3.) 23ND STREET NAVSTA, SD, USA to YOKOSUKA, JAPAN might take one month of steaming underway
I'm confused, is this a documentary about Robert Smith?!
Japanese torpedoes had twice the explosive charge,twice the speed,and three to four times the range of US torpedoes!Even the Air dropped torpedoes were more powerful and successful than US ship board torpedoes! A decisive advantage throughout the War!
If the Japanese had built more submarines and fewer battleships....
These subs too failed to detect that US aircraft carriers had already left Hawaii prior to the fateful Battle of Midway.
How come these subs failed to detect the departure of US aircraft carriers from Pearl Harbor prior to the attack?
They few Subs monitoring the sea lanes were all south of Oahu, while the Carriers were northwest of the island. They were also expecting them to still be in port with the Battleships.
THE CARRIERS LEFT PEARL A DAY BEFORE THE JAPANESE SUBS GOT INTO POSITION,WITH NO RADAR THEIR SEARCH AREA WAS LIMITED TO VISUAL CONTACT!
Also, the Japanese were well aware that there were no carriers in port care of the very efficient Japanese consulate in Honolulu, not to mention the long range seaplane overflights that the Japanese conducted before the attack.