I had one back in the day. My first gaming laptop, and my intro into WOW was on this beast. 19 years later, still playing WOW, but that laptop is long gone. Great video
I actually daily drive a Dell Inspiron E1505. It is the 15 inch, slower cousin of your XPS. I run Windows 7 and a Opera, and it is insanely fast! I threw in a 4GB RAM kit and a 120GB SSD, and honestly, it feels like a new laptop! HD RUclips playback is not an issue at all, along with other streaming sites, like HBO, (I'm sorry, "Max") and Netflix. I thought about Linux, but tbh Windows runs well enough. I really enjoyed your video, keep it up!
I had/have an M1710 and I adored it. Unfortunately, the graphics card died (there is an oven-baking fix apparently) and one of the screen hinges broke. This thing was a rocket in its day and I wish Dell would make a new XPS17.
My M1710 was the best laptop I've ever owned. The only reason I replaced it was because my (second) power cable died and new ones weren't available anymore. They don't make them like the M1710 anymore.
I have one of these. My first PC. Took good care of it. Only repair I've had to make was replacing a fan. Now I use it to play abandonware games that don't run on newer systems.
For anyone with the question of, what SSD will work in this? VERY IMPORTANT, this chipset will NOT allow AHCI, so ANY SSD will suffer. That said, it is still faster in IDE mode with an SSD, but NOT ALL SSDS WILL WORK OR EVEN BOOT. I found the cheap Crucial BX500 model (after some trial and error) works well in IDE mode, NO Evo 840 bloated price point SSD required. The results, even in IDE mode are substantially better than with a HD (especially random writes). AND even better, TRIM is supported. DO NOT BUY KINGSTON, my experience was it did NOT work.
I still have mine, my favorite so far. The biggest problem: It doesn't turn on. When I press the power button: The green light for the power and the hard disc turns on, but turns off instantly. What could be the problem, and what is the possible solution? I really love this laptop.
I paid a pretty penny for a shiny red example back in the day. T7200, 4GB, 160GB HDD. I still have the wee beastie. My first and biggest gripe was the total lie about the maximum RAM, 4GB means 3.25GB due to chipset weirdness. Nothing you can do about it, that's it. My biggest turn on was overclocking built in by design, the speakers, and the oh so definite lid-clip. So far I have resisted the urge to buy the requisite overclockable CPU ==> T7600G (note the G). They are rare and expensive (100 USD). The LED bling got turned off in the first 5 minutes. I guess each to his own. It has had multiple updates over the years: FX-1600m (works great), various HDD, SDD. I am soon to do it's final (he says) upgrade: FX-3600m, T7600 (not G :-( ) It's currently running ArcoLinux (Absolutely recommended) and boots to awesome in around 30s. I was going to call it quits on the upgrades, but then I discovered that Nvidia were discontinuing driver support. Basically that meant you had to either anchor the kernel (sucks), or use Nouveau. Now Nouveau is ok, but it does not support "reclocking" the FX-1600m (or earlier) power / performance modes. So you end up with your GPU running in the lowest power / performance setting. This doesn't quite cut it for full screen youtube / netflix etc. HD playback. You either have to go to lower resolution or smaller window... I did a lot of digging around. The Nouveau driver currently supports reclocking from Tesla G92 core upwards. The FX-3600m was one of the first G92 cores so there's a possibility that it can be reclocked via the experimental (read not user friendly) kernel interface. Even if it doesn't I hope that it will "just work" since it's low power mode is double the performance of the FX-1600m. The T7600 offers a minor performance boost over the T7200. We're talking around 13% here, so no flying to the moon. But it was way cheaper than the T7600G. Here's hoping I can squeeze another 7 years out of the ol girl. That'll make her 20 and due for retirement or maybe a rebirth. Who knows!
For those interested. The FX-3600m works fine except for the backlight. With the FX-3600m installed the BIOS fails to detect the LCD and turns the backlight way down. It's still there but basically unusable. I'll swap out the FS-3600m for the old FX-1600m. Later I may replace the CCFL tubes with LEDs and a bit of electronics to directly control the backlight level..
I'm curious, why you don't mention that if you upgrade the CPU, Graphics card and RAM you can play Crysis on medium settings but on low resolution. Yes, I'm serious. Upgrade the CPU to the intel T7600 overclocked to 3.16GHZ, upgrade the RAM to 4 gigs and upgrade the video card to the Nvidia Geforce GO 7950 GTX and go to the NVIDIA control panel and change ALL SETTINGS to high performance. This requires disabling antisoptric filtering, reading all the boxes before checking them and then apply your settings. After that go to a program called system configuration(search this up in search bar) and disable bootup programs you don't need to save RAM. And, then you're ready to go to play Crysis 1 at 35-75 FPS. No, I'm not making this up. Crysis can run surprisingly decent for this machine if you optimize the control panel settings and bootup settings and the upgrade all the parts. It works ! :)
So why have we been told by Dell and most of the forums that our XPS M1710 will only run using the windows XP that it was shipped with ? And the Media Center direct-X would have to be installed or nothing will work ? And Dell does not support XP anymore but finding any software is next to impossible !!!! OK now I will have to look at this from a completely different approach and learn the Linux way ! thanks
It's an operating system just like Mac or Windows. It's easy! Just jump in and poke around. I have many more Linux videos coming down the pipeline, and here's my playlist with currently-public Linux videos! ruclips.net/p/PLzo7l8HTJNK-5gUFMYpsB7rhZxdBjQOt7
Should have upgraded the ram and gave win 7 a try, only using linux on these older gaming laptops is a waste as they will run games that are not compatible with win 10. Even got two XPS M1730s and they are still very nice laptops.
had one of these almost a decade ago, ended up frying it. however, i pulled that nice 1920x1200 display from it, bought a controller board/inverter for it, and use it as a second monitor. must say, surprised the screen has held up for so long. as for choices in OS, i would've also tried manjaro. lubuntu is great though, used it to revive a crappy old netbook i had laying around quite awhile ago. cool video.
EposVox it was cake. i will say though, the other components you need can be a bit pricey. the controller board + inverter + 12v 4@ PSU collectively ran me around $60 or $70 if i remember correctly. past that it's simply plug and play.
I got this Laptop like 2 months ago , and sold it cause I smelt a burning smell. It was the graphics card , they are known to fry. I had the core duo 2 model with an ssd and 3.5 gb of ram, and bought a higher end battery . This thing was pretty quick but I didn't want to put a new graphics card in it, cause I already put too much money in it.
I bought a 50 euro cpu fried bulk dell xps for parts beacuse mine had the video card fried and surprise...it had a gtx 7950 and 4 gb of ram in it.I added a 20 euro 5 fan cooler and now it runs great,the temperatures are ok.
EposVox Can you please make a video comparing disk partition set-ups for Linux, to see which one is the fastest for booting? I've tried a few things and can't really make a conclusion if it's necessary to have a "Swap" partition the size of the amount of ram inside the PC or if it's useless.
In windows, the leds flash to the beat of music in winamp or windows media player. you also need windows for dell mediadirect. I ll stick with Vista or 7 or 10. Anyone out there with a copy of mediadirect 3 for xps install disk for sale. i m buying
hey mate. i wanted to do this exact upgrade with my old m1710 but doesn't the Northridge not support acpi the way Dell effed it? hence trim wouldn't work? still worth it? I've got a 3 gHz c2d in mine. lookin at a 3600m too. if they ever get cheap for a 10 year old gpu
probably 2 late now but 3600m is not supported so brightness is stuck extremely low, 1600m is the best if u want Directx 10 games and working brightness.
i have a bit of a related problem... i have got an ancient laptop from a friend... like windows xp ancient... and i want to install linux on it... but the cd drive is busted and its not a standard laptop cd drive and installing over USB is not supported by the laptop... any ideas how i can get a new OS on there ?
Vista was ahead of the cheaper costs of hardware and strong hardware. Service Pack 1 then 2 made Vista run well. Computers were more expensive before. Windows Millennium Edition was abandoned and there was politics at Microsoft. The manager or management team did not understand Windows ME. They put more time and effort into Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows 2000 (mostly due to Windows 2000 having Network Technologies (NT) and server type of stuff. Then Windows XP was rushed like the other OS's. Windows XP sucked at first and had very little software or game support. There was also the Service Pack 1 (or SP2?)virus directly on Microsoft's download web-page. I cannot find any articles at this time. Windows 7 was "Windows Vista SP3". Windows 8 was "Windows 7" and Windows 8.1 was "Windows 7 SP2". Windows 10 was "Windows 8 SP2 or SP3".
SyncroScales NT does not stand for Network Technology. It stands for New Technology. NT is a type of kernel Microsoft uses in Windows and has little to do with networking.
you could also update to windows 10 , would do the trick. while watching the video i have concluded that this is not really a fair comparison , you compared an operating system that everybody and they're mom knows that it sucks to linux . instead of installing these things i would prefer to install linux mint.
Once you get to two cores and 2gb of ram you can run KDE pretty well. Also this is a 32bit processor so not much gain especially with the ssd in there.
Guess what? I had a laptop from 2006; a Core Duo T2300 2GHz (upgraded from a T2050 1.6GHz), 2x 1GB ddr2 667MHz, Radeon Mobility X1600 and a 100GB 5400RPM HDD. Windows 10 worked better than XP, Vista or 7. Windows 8 and 8.1 could not even be installed (the Insyde H2O bios did not support some extension it required). Adding more ram (replacing the 2x1GB with 2x2GB) and replacing the HDD with a 120GB SSD allowed it to have a quite decent speed for web browsing, media and such. The laptop still works, but it's not mine anymore. I know what I'm talking about. Most users wouldn't even know how to use a Linux system, not everyone is tech savvy.
It's literally impossible for Windows 10 to run better than Windows XP on virtually any machine (at least any 4-5+ year old machine). The OS itself uses a mere fraction of the resources that Windows 10 uses, and is snappy as hell on a SSD. Quite literally impossible to run better while requiring more RAM/processing power to run.
How about you test it? I know you have the means, and it would make an interesting video to watch. The point is to focus on the usability, not just the mere speed. I claim that if a system is intended to run Windows and able to run decently from XP till 10, that it's best to run 10 on it. XP might be faster, but 10 allows for so much more, it beats Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 on any system that can run all of those. And it's a modern, supported OS. XP is fine for DDR1 systems with single-core CPU-s and such. I agree Linux distributions might behave faster, but most people are used to Windows. And I've upgraded so many old systems to 10, no user was ever claiming their old system was faster/better.
Because he's an idiotic moron that is incapable of using Windows and thinks he has to be an elitist egotist. Linux is only used by idiot kids that think they are hackers and think they know better than the engineers that built the PC. People like this dude are totally fucking braindead and know nothing about PC's.
I had one back in the day. My first gaming laptop, and my intro into WOW was on this beast. 19 years later, still playing WOW, but that laptop is long gone. Great video
I actually daily drive a Dell Inspiron E1505. It is the 15 inch, slower cousin of your XPS. I run Windows 7 and a Opera, and it is insanely fast! I threw in a 4GB RAM kit and a 120GB SSD, and honestly, it feels like a new laptop! HD RUclips playback is not an issue at all, along with other streaming sites, like HBO, (I'm sorry, "Max") and Netflix. I thought about Linux, but tbh Windows runs well enough. I really enjoyed your video, keep it up!
I had/have an M1710 and I adored it. Unfortunately, the graphics card died (there is an oven-baking fix apparently) and one of the screen hinges broke. This thing was a rocket in its day and I wish Dell would make a new XPS17.
they now do brother
7 year old HP Elitebook 2540 running Linux Mint 18.2 runs great.
My M1710 was the best laptop I've ever owned. The only reason I replaced it was because my (second) power cable died and new ones weren't available anymore. They don't make them like the M1710 anymore.
Agreed, I had one too, best laptop I've ever owned.
What a legend!
I have one of these. My first PC. Took good care of it. Only repair I've had to make was replacing a fan. Now I use it to play abandonware games that don't run on newer systems.
Have one of M1710 and I love it.
@04:36 Quake III Arena with the touchpad, I can't believe my eyes 😀
For anyone with the question of, what SSD will work in this?
VERY IMPORTANT, this chipset will NOT allow AHCI, so ANY SSD will suffer.
That said, it is still faster in IDE mode with an SSD, but NOT ALL SSDS WILL WORK OR EVEN BOOT.
I found the cheap Crucial BX500 model (after some trial and error) works well in IDE mode, NO Evo 840 bloated price point SSD required. The results, even in IDE mode are substantially better than with a HD (especially random writes). AND even better, TRIM is supported.
DO NOT BUY KINGSTON, my experience was it did NOT work.
Do they make a hybrid drive in IDE? Want to revive mine it work well running windows 10.
Great video. Vista was a barely-shiny turn on a good day. Hated vista, still do. Repurposing the laptop with linux is a great idea.
Loving your videos mate, you have a great culture towards Linux and it's nice to have a polished video discussing Linux.
Thanks :)
Thank you :)
Great video, Vista drove me back to Linux it was almost as bad as Windows ME.
I had my first "custom built" computer right before Vista came out. Made the upgrade and it was useless, haha. Thanks, Rob!
I still have mine, my favorite so far. The biggest problem: It doesn't turn on. When I press the power button: The green light for the power and the hard disc turns on, but turns off instantly. What could be the problem, and what is the possible solution? I really love this laptop.
Great video. I think I may try a set up like this on a older laptop I have here.
Thanks for the tip! Will give it a shot on my ol' HP
My first computer had a later install of vista, it was good
I paid a pretty penny for a shiny red example back in the day. T7200, 4GB, 160GB HDD. I still have the wee beastie. My first and biggest gripe was the total lie about the maximum RAM, 4GB means 3.25GB due to chipset weirdness. Nothing you can do about it, that's it. My biggest turn on was overclocking built in by design, the speakers, and the oh so definite lid-clip. So far I have resisted the urge to buy the requisite overclockable CPU ==> T7600G (note the G). They are rare and expensive (100 USD). The LED bling got turned off in the first 5 minutes. I guess each to his own.
It has had multiple updates over the years: FX-1600m (works great), various HDD, SDD. I am soon to do it's final (he says) upgrade: FX-3600m, T7600 (not G :-( )
It's currently running ArcoLinux (Absolutely recommended) and boots to awesome in around 30s.
I was going to call it quits on the upgrades, but then I discovered that Nvidia were discontinuing driver support. Basically that meant you had to either anchor the kernel (sucks), or use Nouveau. Now Nouveau is ok, but it does not support "reclocking" the FX-1600m (or earlier) power / performance modes. So you end up with your GPU running in the lowest power / performance setting. This doesn't quite cut it for full screen youtube / netflix etc. HD playback. You either have to go to lower resolution or smaller window...
I did a lot of digging around. The Nouveau driver currently supports reclocking from Tesla G92 core upwards. The FX-3600m was one of the first G92 cores so there's a possibility that it can be reclocked via the experimental (read not user friendly) kernel interface. Even if it doesn't I hope that it will "just work" since it's low power mode is double the performance of the FX-1600m.
The T7600 offers a minor performance boost over the T7200. We're talking around 13% here, so no flying to the moon. But it was way cheaper than the T7600G.
Here's hoping I can squeeze another 7 years out of the ol girl. That'll make her 20 and due for retirement or maybe a rebirth. Who knows!
For those interested. The FX-3600m works fine except for the backlight. With the FX-3600m installed the BIOS fails to detect the LCD and turns the backlight way down. It's still there but basically unusable. I'll swap out the FS-3600m for the old FX-1600m. Later I may replace the CCFL tubes with LEDs and a bit of electronics to directly control the backlight level..
I'm curious, why you don't mention that if you upgrade the CPU, Graphics card and RAM you can play Crysis on medium settings but on low resolution. Yes, I'm serious. Upgrade the CPU to the intel T7600 overclocked to 3.16GHZ, upgrade the RAM to 4 gigs and upgrade the video card to the Nvidia Geforce GO 7950 GTX and go to the NVIDIA control panel and change ALL SETTINGS to high performance. This requires disabling antisoptric filtering, reading all the boxes before checking them and then apply your settings.
After that go to a program called system configuration(search this up in search bar) and disable bootup programs you don't need to save RAM. And, then you're ready to go to play Crysis 1 at 35-75 FPS. No, I'm not making this up. Crysis can run surprisingly decent for this machine if you optimize the control panel settings and bootup settings and the upgrade all the parts. It works ! :)
Also, be sure to check out BoBuntu too, it's a pretty freaking awesome Lubuntu Distribution
So why have we been told by Dell and most of the forums that our XPS M1710 will only run using the windows XP that it was shipped with ? And the Media Center direct-X would have to be installed or nothing will work ? And Dell does not support XP anymore but finding any software is next to impossible !!!! OK now I will have to look at this from a completely different approach and learn the Linux way ! thanks
pretty sure I recognize that laptop ;) I see you haven't changed the color accents, I liked the green best.
:)
GREEN AND RED IS GOOD
Solus os is very snappy :) I haven't tested Lubuntu yet great video !
First to like ! :) I have a old laptop I would love to put a ssd in, and try linux with, but I know nothing about it ! lol
It's an operating system just like Mac or Windows. It's easy! Just jump in and poke around. I have many more Linux videos coming down the pipeline, and here's my playlist with currently-public Linux videos! ruclips.net/p/PLzo7l8HTJNK-5gUFMYpsB7rhZxdBjQOt7
Fun Fact: I tried slapping Linux Mint on a friend's Windows Vista Laptop, but alas, Wireless wasn't working under Linux Mint... :/
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try checking the bios, a wifi option may be in there...
Vista wasn't too bad but UAC being overdone
Should have upgraded the ram and gave win 7 a try, only using linux on these older gaming laptops is a waste as they will run games that are not compatible with win 10. Even got two XPS M1730s and they are still very nice laptops.
I just got one of these beasts recently and it has XP on it! Definitely could use an upgrade...
Nice
I'm probably going to go with Lubuntu but I need to SSD it first.
had one of these almost a decade ago, ended up frying it. however, i pulled that nice 1920x1200 display from it, bought a controller board/inverter for it, and use it as a second monitor. must say, surprised the screen has held up for so long. as for choices in OS, i would've also tried manjaro. lubuntu is great though, used it to revive a crappy old netbook i had laying around quite awhile ago. cool video.
How bad was the process to get the screen prepped? I'd love to do that. I need more monitors.
EposVox it was cake. i will say though, the other components you need can be a bit pricey. the controller board + inverter + 12v 4@ PSU collectively ran me around $60 or $70 if i remember correctly. past that it's simply plug and play.
Hm, alrighty. Thanks for the info!
This never ran on Windows Vista. It ran on Windows XP Media Center Edition 2005.
It ran Windows Vista when the owners upgraded it in 2007 as most people did
your videos are so good. I wish they got more views
Spread the word!!
I got this Laptop like 2 months ago , and sold it cause I smelt a burning smell. It was the graphics card , they are known to fry. I had the core duo 2 model with an ssd and 3.5 gb of ram, and bought a higher end battery . This thing was pretty quick but I didn't want to put a new graphics card in it, cause I already put too much money in it.
I bought a 50 euro cpu fried bulk dell xps for parts beacuse mine had the video card fried and surprise...it had a gtx 7950 and 4 gb of ram in it.I added a 20 euro 5 fan cooler and now it runs great,the temperatures are ok.
Great video man. I refurbish old hardware with Linux all the time.
Have you checked out Bohdi Linux? It is made for lightweight Distribution.
I have not, will look into it!
EposVox Can you please make a video comparing disk partition set-ups for Linux, to see which one is the fastest for booting? I've tried a few things and can't really make a conclusion if it's necessary to have a "Swap" partition the size of the amount of ram inside the PC or if it's useless.
RGB BEFORE RGB WAS A THING. And also i am watching on dell inspiron e1505
will this work for the dell 170 ?
Windows 7 would also do the job
Its not a 1730 mate
Weren’t these systems PATA not SATA?
I mean, mine very clearly had SATA lol
They were made for a long time
In windows, the leds flash to the beat of music in winamp or windows media player. you also need windows for dell mediadirect.
I ll stick with Vista or 7 or 10. Anyone out there with a copy of mediadirect 3 for xps install disk for sale. i m buying
hey mate. i wanted to do this exact upgrade with my old m1710 but doesn't the Northridge not support acpi the way Dell effed it? hence trim wouldn't work? still worth it?
I've got a 3 gHz c2d in mine. lookin at a 3600m too. if they ever get cheap for a 10 year old gpu
probably 2 late now but 3600m is not supported so brightness is stuck extremely low, 1600m is the best if u want Directx 10 games and working brightness.
@@OoO-xg4cr gotta flash the bios and do some hard modding of connectors
i have a bit of a related problem... i have got an ancient laptop from a friend... like windows xp ancient... and i want to install linux on it... but the cd drive is busted and its not a standard laptop cd drive and installing over USB is not supported by the laptop... any ideas how i can get a new OS on there ?
USB CD/DVD drive
The Big Bang theory
Tengo exactamente esta laptop y quiero repotenciarla e intarlarle un OS linux, gracias por tu aporte, te enviare mi proyecto saludos desde Caracas
Vista was ahead of the cheaper costs of hardware and strong hardware. Service Pack 1 then 2 made Vista run well. Computers were more expensive before.
Windows Millennium Edition was abandoned and there was politics at Microsoft. The manager or management team did not understand Windows ME. They put more time and effort into Windows 98 Second Edition and Windows 2000 (mostly due to Windows 2000 having Network Technologies (NT) and server type of stuff. Then Windows XP was rushed like the other OS's.
Windows XP sucked at first and had very little software or game support. There was also the Service Pack 1 (or SP2?)virus directly on Microsoft's download web-page. I cannot find any articles at this time.
Windows 7 was "Windows Vista SP3". Windows 8 was "Windows 7" and Windows 8.1 was "Windows 7 SP2". Windows 10 was "Windows 8 SP2 or SP3".
SyncroScales NT does not stand for Network Technology. It stands for New Technology. NT is a type of kernel Microsoft uses in Windows and has little to do with networking.
you could also update to windows 10 , would do the trick.
while watching the video i have concluded that this is not really a fair comparison , you compared an operating system that everybody and they're mom knows that it sucks to linux .
instead of installing these things i would prefer to install linux mint.
Not for this low spec a machine it wouldn't.
@@EposVox and yet there are videos of people putting windows 10 on it and it starting in like 40 seconds.
Wasn't there an option to upgrade the ram?
Best solution: change os and ram? I would have been nice to know if there was any difference between 2 and 4GB
Once you get to two cores and 2gb of ram you can run KDE pretty well. Also this is a 32bit processor so not much gain especially with the ssd in there.
These machines support 4GB of RAM and DDR2 is cheap. Upgrade that sucker!
That's a system for Windows 10, not a Linux.
HA Windows 10 on an ancient laptop? No thanks. May not be as problematic as the original Vista, but it certainly won't run well.
Guess what? I had a laptop from 2006; a Core Duo T2300 2GHz (upgraded from a T2050 1.6GHz), 2x 1GB ddr2 667MHz, Radeon Mobility X1600 and a 100GB 5400RPM HDD. Windows 10 worked better than XP, Vista or 7. Windows 8 and 8.1 could not even be installed (the Insyde H2O bios did not support some extension it required).
Adding more ram (replacing the 2x1GB with 2x2GB) and replacing the HDD with a 120GB SSD allowed it to have a quite decent speed for web browsing, media and such.
The laptop still works, but it's not mine anymore. I know what I'm talking about.
Most users wouldn't even know how to use a Linux system, not everyone is tech savvy.
It's literally impossible for Windows 10 to run better than Windows XP on virtually any machine (at least any 4-5+ year old machine). The OS itself uses a mere fraction of the resources that Windows 10 uses, and is snappy as hell on a SSD. Quite literally impossible to run better while requiring more RAM/processing power to run.
How about you test it? I know you have the means, and it would make an interesting video to watch. The point is to focus on the usability, not just the mere speed. I claim that if a system is intended to run Windows and able to run decently from XP till 10, that it's best to run 10 on it. XP might be faster, but 10 allows for so much more, it beats Vista, 7, 8 and 8.1 on any system that can run all of those. And it's a modern, supported OS. XP is fine for DDR1 systems with single-core CPU-s and such.
I agree Linux distributions might behave faster, but most people are used to Windows. And I've upgraded so many old systems to 10, no user was ever claiming their old system was faster/better.
What would happen if i put 8gb of ram?
I think the max it can take is 4gb
Should of put windows xp better than vista
He doesn't even know what WIndows XP is. He can't even get the graphics card right.
never update windows is the solution
Ew linux??? Why not windows like it was made for?
I... very thoroughly explain why.
Because he's an idiotic moron that is incapable of using Windows and thinks he has to be an elitist egotist. Linux is only used by idiot kids that think they are hackers and think they know better than the engineers that built the PC. People like this dude are totally fucking braindead and know nothing about PC's.
That's what I have xd