I've been using my Dell XPS 13 9310 as my first ever personal computer for 2 years now. And I must say, I have no complaints. It's never had heat issues even when compiling software or playing games and never had driver issues. I think Dell did a pretty nice job. The only thing I hate about it is the I/O though.
This could be said about so many companies these days... Nobody at the helm with vision just a bunch of great engineers and university trained management types throwing darts hoping for a bullseye
@@WayStedYou What? Steve praised their mechanical engineering on Ailenware. It's all to work around the fact they refuse to re-tool their chassis so is just throwing money away. However, they do know their stuff.
I think the comparison should’ve had both the m1 13 and M1 pro 14. Honestly if you choose the higher end version you’re basically paying M1 pro 14 price and the Oled version is trying to target that audience for 1850USD with 1260P and comparable 512/16 config. The 1280P is probably going to be over 2K in this config
@@TheRMSAndre1 Yeah, but the 14" M1 pro is much newer and improves in many ways over the "older" style MacBook's so it should at least have been a honorable mention.
maybe, maybe not. In this case you are paying that amount to pack as much power as possible into the 13 inch form factor, if you were to move up a macbook size, you may as well move up an xps size as well. the essence of this computer is both the 13-inch super-thin form factor and the power.
@@mayankshrivastava3774 sandpaper would more than do the job, if you're taking sandpaper to your device, I don't think you're going to be bothered about how it looks.
To be fair, the headphone jack is too big in a Specific Direction (or combination of directions) and must be at the edge of the case/board. The speakers have different limitations on Where they can go, and while they may be similar or larger in volume, are quite a different shape. Of course, depending on the specifics, you might still be right anyway, but I can see how things might be such that those two statements don't necessarily have any meaningful implications when combined, too.
Also Dell: USB-C they implemented isn't compatible to most smartphone headphone dongle. Make sure customers keep their included dongle or they have to buy from us.
XPS 13 has always been a legendary device, I just got the 2018 one second hand with the i7 and the touch screen, it has such a premium feel to it, everything about it is just high spec. And the ones from a few years ago are going really cheap these days, if you don't have to have the latest thing, they are great devices to pick up second hand
IDK man, I bought a 2019 one a while back and the thing is a beautiful piece of junk that cant even run a youtube video without the fans kicking on. Maybe I'm just spoiled by my macbook lol.
I was thinking he would put a strip of black tape along the front of the case to make it less sharp on the palm. But grinding down the aluminum also works…
This is a small thing but I really like seeing the follow through on your commitment to point out that you invested into Framework whenever you review something similar
A company that's a client of mine has been using Dell laptops for many years now. Lately it seems as if there has been a lot of issues with them. The old XPS 13 very rarely had any problems, but many of the new XPS 13 plus and Precision 5570 models show issues with overheating and shitty battery life. No one there likes the new XPS 13 plus either. Once the "ooh shiny" effect wears off, you're left with a less practical machine which sucks as it is a tool, not a vase.
I am going to say this might have more to do with Intel vs Dell. Seen the same with Lenovo ThinkPad's and Dell devices both having more issues in the past year or so.
last years model xps15 was perfect out of the box, but My latest xps15 and xps 13 plus were running hot. Bring up the task manager and look at the cpu %, Out of the box this thing was set up to run hot, so I had to kill a few programs, and find out why they were running in the background, then deleted the superfluous ones and downloaded the latest updates for everything. I had a few settings that would start up the hgh powered graphics especially on browsers, this cooled it down and now it runs great. I also use telemetry blocking and process explorer to find the bad actors. Good luck, but eventually you get it running great.
@Bear Spicer But this has better performance, better screen, better repairability, and also about *7 years younger*. How could you compare the two? Intel finally has 14-core processors efficient enough to cram into a small chassis, compared to the MacBook Retina's anemic dual-core across the board SKUs of yester-decade. Just be happy you have the option now and be glad for competition and actual technological advancements.
@@nevmiku They’re comparing a $1849 laptop to Apple’s $900 M1… The 14” MacBook Pro ($1999) would probably smoke this thing and do it with more than half the power. Oof!
Honestly, this should just have been a XPS 14. That way they could have the powerful chip and less compromises. And that will also keep the lineup more consistent. I don't get why is taking so long for PC manufacturers to copy Apple's bigger MacBook pros strategy. Still, I think that's a very sick laptop and has me very tempted.
"I don't get why it's taking so long for others to copy Apple" You are kidding, right? 14" devices have been the main business-class device for a decade in the PC world. There's a huge selection of different ones. Now Apple makes a 14" Macbook and You want to get a 14" model of every laptop out there? Or did I miss Your point?
I think that dell should outline the touchpad with color in the glass. I think this would seamlessly eliminate any running off the pad, without making the glass uncomfortable
Pre M1 macbook air, I’d be all over an XPS. I had the 12 inch blade and 11 MacBook Air. Love thin and light laptops. The way the m1 sips battery is unreal, and I can just use a regular usb c charger to power it like a phone. It’s got plenty of power for lighter video editing and anything else I need but I never have to worry about keeping the charger
Warning, Warning, iTroll Alert. What I love about M1 MBs is: -touchscreen -pen support -face recognition -2-in-1 design -180 degree screen -repairability -upgradability -numerous ports -OLED screen And let's not forget all the class-action lawsuits filed because of poor build quality -2021 crack screen -2020 green screen -2019 connectivity issues -2018 keyboard -2017 thermal throttling And that is just in the last 5 years! No wonders MBs only have 15% market share, an laptopmag rated them 10th out of 11 laptop makers...
Hey ! Because of its sheer processing power,I have been thinking about the MB Air, but coming from a windows machine I am seriously concerned about the lack of ports. So, can the MB air simultaneously connect to an external display at 1080p(or 4k), a wireless mouse keyboard combo and an external hard disk copying some files while charging at the same time ? I am well aware that we would need to use a dongle, but how much would be the performance penalty? What could be the issues that I face because I am running all of these from a single port ? I wouldn't be using it like this 90% of the time, but just wondered if I ever wanted to, will it be able to handle it ?
I can't get past removal of escape key and function row. Hated it on my MacBooks, glad Apple turned 180 and brought them back Also, never touching Dell again after countless QC and longevity issues on my XPS 15 from 2019 which made me hate the product and the company
I've had an issue with their alienware R8 computer I bought, and they didn't even make an official announcement about the issue to inform us about the issue. For reference, somehow their software forced an update through the windows update that disabled the power button. After 2 hours of diagnostic and looking around, using 1 of 2 special methods, I was able to power my computer after coming home from work. A huge dell forum post literally spanning over 40 pages of comments, and they only respond about 2-3 weeks later, they are working on it. I contacted them through FB, and the guy plain brushed me aside without responding.
my 2020 xps 15 has had so many problems its insane. I had to have the motherboard replaced twice and one time the technician fucked up and didnt screw in the heat sink. My warranty is expiring in 30 days and im sure its gonna have more problems in the future. Im definitely done with dell after this one.
How he softened the edge literally made my day. I also do stuff like this, practical fixes people would often not do or think of :D. Who needs a 4k screen in a 13" laptop? This is just ridiculous.
@Lukasz Biedron ... actually not... in the configuration tool when you order the laptop you can get the highest level CPU, RAM and SSD and you still get a choice of 3 different LCDs.
A note about the DAC Equipped dongle: Apple Lightning and Type C to headphone jack dongles, each costing $10 USD, both have a very good DAC chip built in. It outclasses other such dongles many times the price in terms of audio quality.
@@tuan.hoang_ not a source, just my experience. Apple usb-c dongle is probably the most popular DAC among younger audio enthousiasts right now. With the increasing popularity of IEMs, many people don't even need an amp. To get anything noticably better, you need to go quite a bit more expensive, I rn use a Motu M2 audio interface as my DAC, but I used an apple dongle for a long time, and it is great value. Do note, the EU version is noticably quieter, especially on android it really doesn't get loud enough, so if you live in the EU and want to use it on android you should probably import it from the US or get something else.
The question I ask myself is, why make all these compromises for a little more cpu power? I know there are cases where you could need it, like rendering, 3D work and simulations, but there are better machines out there for that. Most people would use a small device like this for everyday office work, surfing the web and so on. I'd rather have a headphone jack, maybe some normal usbs and so on. Like I said, I think there are people out there wanting something like this, but it can't be many.
I think this is designed for someone who just plugs it into a dock when at home or the office and have opted to get a laptop rather than a mini pc because they like knowing that they can use it in a pinch on a flight or write emails at a cafe or in class. To me, these devices are compute modules that happen to work stand-alone. That's why they're super thin and have bad battery.
You answered your question in your own comment. There are specific use cases for having lots of CPU power in a thin & light laptop. Yes, desktop machines or beefier laptops would be better, but they sacrifice portability. Maybe you're okay with hulking around a 10 pound laptop for your architecture firm, but there are plenty of people who need CPU power, but don't want to carry around something so bulky. As for the headphone jack, as someone who uses a laptop for work & school, the thing is on mute 99% of the time.
And they have other laptops for that, this is a specific use case for maybe a university student who needs power for their engineering class or something.
One thing that isn't talked about enough regarding the headphone jack: bluetooth audio codecs for two-way communication (not just listening to music) are really bad, even on platforms with good bluetooth audio support. Windows almost always drops to HFP/HSP, which use codecs from the early 2000s and even the best two-way codecs available on Linux (which hilariously enough has the best desktop BT audio support these days) are utter garbage compared to even the worst 3$ USB DAC from aliexpress
Ngl, I had to do a full investigation on how to activate the bluetooth shortcut on the notification side of the taskbar, because it wasn't available in my new laptop for whatever reason. It was such a pain in the butt, I don't wish that for anyone
@@SStarlight9614 My experience with bluetooth is that it's a pretty shitty way to do anything and you're better off with cables for most devices. Game controllers on consoles seem to be an exception, and I'm lead to believe that's largely because the companies that make them spend a lot more time, money, and effort on making them not shit than is usual. Latency, latency, latency. Audio is Very Obviously out of sync to the point that the video is unwatchable levels of latency. I type fast enough that every 3rd or 4th character is being dropped levels of latency. That sort of thing. Now, how much of that is bluetooth itself vs the manufacturers cheaping out on the components, I don't know, but it's a thing either way. ... and that's before getting into the privacy and security issues bluetooth presents. Basic rule of thumb: Unless the cable is actually causing a problem, Cable Is Better. ... I fully acknowledge that there are use cases where the cable does actually cause a problem. Mostly involving game controllers or mobile devices.
@@mojave5661 Thing is, they decided to hide it, which made it look like it's just useless, they things they did, while these guys are relatively more open, which meant the decisions they took were understood well.
I think the biggest drawback for me would be the headphone jack, sometimes at the last minute realise you’ve forgot to charge your headset at which point a headphone jack comes in handy
@@IAMNOTRANA Apple basically did make this when they released the 2016 MacBook Pro with touch bar. People hated it so Apple reversed course and brought back physical function keys, more ports, and bigger batteries with a thicker chassis to support it all.
The team or person behind all the skits this video deserve high praise. Really made the video consistently entertaining while still covering all the important stats and information
Looking at Intel's roadmap from before it released, Intel was planning to brand this chip as a Core i9 but decided at the last minute to brand it as a Core i7.
Personally.. never touching Dell ever since I saw your secret shopper video. In case something goes wrong, I know I'd be dealing with the worst, not to mention outright scammy support possible. If they're providing crappy services overseas, I am positive that they won't even care one bit about their Indian customers like me. I've heard too many horror stories about Dell support at this point to even bother considering them for any purchase. Edit: Lots of people in comments who can't differentiate between Dell corporate and retail customer support. They're not the same. At all.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but dell's business support is fantastic, ive had to use it for my job and they are some of the most helpful people in the business. But you do also end up paying a price premium. If you are considering dells products but hate their customer support, i would highly recommend their business line.
I can say the same here too - from my job working in IT support and having to talk to Dell support often, their business support is very good and they usually have an engineer out for hardware issues within a day or two.
They could have just moved the headphone jack down, there's spots where it would have fit below the cooling instead of above. Might be a bit of a weird spot, but I would MUCH rather have the jack, than not have it. I use the headphone jack on my laptop a lot, especially with what Linus said about Windows and bluetooth woes.
the width of the laptop keeps decreasing as we move down and since xps is so thin its not possible to fit anything on the lower side, hence they have all the ports on the top
These little dell XPS laptops are so good. I've had 3 gaming laptops in my life and I recenetly got a smaller dell xps just for school and I literally will say it's my favorite design. So easy to use and comfortable and it's small and sleeck. It fits in my binder.
Even with these controversial compromises/changes, this seems like a great “MacBook for Windows users”. But comparing the high-end XPS with the base M1 and not the M1 Pro 14” seems… disingenuous. Also, worth mentioning that 4K at 13” makes no sense from a scaling perspective. You’re gonna end up with either a tiny UI even at 200% or non-integer scaling which is less than ideal
@@dinervc9582 yea it’s an MBA that doesn’t thermal throttle. Another way to look at it is if you can keep an M1 MBA cool under full load it’s the same as an M1 MBP but smaller and cheaper. M1 is also a 2020 chip and we’re now almost halfway through 2022…so no doubt the M2 this year will kick Intel’s front door in again. Especially considering the battery life…It’s not unreasonable to expect the M2 Air/13” MBP to have the same ~18hr battery life as the 2020 models but better performance than this XPS. We’re talking 2 years of development on a chip that is still in its own league for performance to efficiency.
@Nahid Islam this is exactly what I do on every machine/keyboard. Most people don't use it and tend to hold shift instead like myself, so having Esc right near where my pinky is located is a no brainer
The XPS you reviewed was way closer in price to a 14” MacBook Pro than a 13” MacBook Pro. I would’ve preferred to see the performance comparison between the M1 pro since that’s the price comparison to the 14 core (and even the higher end 12 Core) variants of this computer
@@ben_car_8115 Yeah, that was possibly sloppy phrasing on my part. I just meant that you can't compare "starting at" pricing since you need to upgrade from that to be a useful machine, and Apple charges more per byte than Dell does for the upgrades. 16->32GB ram, Apple charges $400, Dell $150 512GB->2T SSD Apple changes $600, Dell $300
I bought this laptop because the MacBook is too expensive where I live (they have 180% markup over the US prices). It's my most favorite PC for work to date, it's better than my desktop, my old gaming laptop, super fast and awesome Linux support. Plus it's sooooo light and quiet. I highly recommend this laptop if you are a dev
The sad thing is, as a music producer, that laptop seems like a great alternative to a macbook for that, because it has a blazingly fast CPU for audio processing, and it's small enough to fit almost anywhere. The lack of a headphone jack is a huge dealbreaker. There's no way they couldn't fit it _somewhere._ For now, I'll just keep one laptop, my Omen 15, and use that for everything, though it would be nice to have a laptop with storage just dedicated to music stuff, rather than having to cram it in with my games too. Edit: It also suffers from the main issue I have with ultrabooks. It costs _more_ money, for _worse_ performance than a gaming laptop. Sure, it's smaller and lasts longer on battery, but there's also not many situations where you won't have access to an outlet, but need to do work on a laptop, and there's not many cases where a 15" laptop is less convenient than a 13", other than trying to set it down on really small surfaces. It's a question I always have about ultrabooks. Why get an iGPU, 8GB of ram, and an i7 for ~$1500, when you could get a 3060 mobile, 16GB of ram, a pretty respectable i5, and a HFR display for ~$950? I don't think the convenience is worth the huge price gap, and it ruins all the benefits I can think of when purchasing an ultrabook.
Fellow music producer here, yeah my biggest gripe is the lack of a headphone jack too. Also, the pursuit of ever smaller machines at the cost of usability and IO. I'll always take a machine that's bulkier if that means I can hook more shit up to it and end up with a dedicated gpu as well. I'm incredibly excited to see what all these extra cores will do for music production tho. Every DAW these days relies heavily on multicore for large track numbers so higher core/thread count is always king. What's wild to me is that practically every 4c/8c cpu since the 8000 core series handles production tasks wonderfully. The things people will be able to come up with that much processing grunt is an awesome thing to think about.
I need to carry my laptop to school everyday so i bought the XPS 13 (2021 model) becuase of how light it is. I used to have a gaming laptop that was much heavier, and also had poor battery life which meant I would need to carry the heavy power brick with me too.
Small correction: Apple's $10 USB-C DAC Dongles (for iPads) are actually fairly common and can be used in place of Dell's here. Not defending the lack of a headphone jack on this particular laptop, of course, but you're not screwed if you lose the one in the box.
The only downside with the dongle (I have one) is the low volume if you're running any headphones with more than 16Ohm impedance (ie. Most over-ear headphones). Other than that, I keep mine as a backup when my Bluetooth adapter runs out of battery. At least I'll have sound.
@Bear Spicer So, you have posted/ trolled enough= you love apple and aren't going to buy this... most people don't want to move to apple, so if you want to preach to the choir there are the MAC forums.
Really hoping they add a physical function row, a headphone jack and a standard trackpad with the larger models. Or, just add that finish to their regular XPS models.
No physical escape key makes it a deal breaker for a lot of software engineers as well, but overall it's a neat and sleek concept that looks like it's proven to delight even the most critical reviewers like Linus, and that's saying something!
@@FreeFireFull Yea that's a common fix, but the muscle memory is a big part of it for me, using several different keyboards throughout the day. Same for function keys, I use them pretty heavily for custom mappings on my machines. I also realize this particular Dell is pretty niche, but for a while there when Apple didn't even offer a powerful MacBook without a Touch Bar, it was miserable trying to decide when it would be a good time to upgrade from a 2013 MacBook Air at the time. I ended up going with a PC notebook last year, only to find that Apple's 14-inch MBP was exactly what I'd wanted for 5 years 😆
No physical F-keys is just as stupid for the exact same type of people. Also, they don't work when wearing gloves, which might be part of your work outfit. Or when laptops are required to have a cover for hygenic purposes, like in a lab or hospital.
I've been waiting to replace my XPS 15. I don't like Macbooks, so its great seeing some powerful windows laptops being released. I hope to see Dell continue to develop their XPS range and release a new 15-17' laptop without the compromises, sometime in the near future.
This is why I love my Alienware 13r3 so much. It was not afraid to be chonky and thus has all the ports you would ever want and cooling for days. Still daily it and am forever saddened that it was not given another generation.
Just got my G15 5521 and this givres me good hope. Tho I kinda already hate it because it needed literally 10 Windows 11 reinstalls tong et rid of the bloatwares
@@horace3673 I’m getting the 5225 and I just plan on getting fedora linux as daily driver and using qemu for windows virtual machine, I’ve heard qeme does gaming performance almost identical to windows install anyway
you guys really worked james hard, i dont think ive ever seen so many ad reads in the same set with the same person before, i hope everyone got better quickly!
I really appreciate you guys taking some time to address the repairability. My Dell laptop's keyboard failed and my particular model was designed to have an unreplaceable keyboard. Had I known that beforehand, I don't think I would have bought this laptop. I mean keyboards are supposed to be one of the easiest things to replace in a laptop!
I recently got my hands on a then broken 2021 XPS 13 and I am honestly just blown away. I hate Dell, but this little laptop... I love it! This one at least has a headphone jack, but a mico HDMI would have been nice. Fixed it up and now keeping it for the moment.
Yeah, I had to use a touch bar Mac for work back when they were new and I couldn't get past the lack of physical escape key - no way I'd buy this based on that experience
I get that Ultrabooks are supposed to be super extra thin. However, I'd just take something a bit thicker and with even better cooling and a headphone jack with far less engineering hurdles and less cost.
It's fascinating to see all the people in comment sections excusing these design decisions after declaring Macs to be dead and wastes of money for 5 years because of Apple's identical design decisions. In both cases, they sacrificed functionality for aesthetics and thinness - and Dell took it to an extreme that even Apple didn't dare (ie. the lack of a headphone jack).
Apple did something pretty similar actually The dell XPS just looks a lot like the 12 inch 2015 MacBook, just much more powerful Apple didn’t take away the headphone Jack with that laptop but they did put only one single USB C slot
Apple took away things for primarily aesthetic reasons and secondly for performance things. On top of that, people kept telling a white lie that they didn't have space to put those ports, when as proven by a million tear down and repair videos of the device, they infact did have the space and they could've fit the ports if they really wanted to, they just didn't. Dell on the other hand, has put performance first and aesthetics as second priority. They literally can not put the headphone jack inside because just those few milimeters of space would make it that they wouldn't be able to put the Intel P chip inside and cool it properly. The laptop here is engineered and designed around the processor and power, not the other way around.
@@shabanabader2948 That's absurd. They obviously could have designed around a headphone jack had they wanted to - it's tiny. There's no way such a tiny component would be impossible to incorporate, and even if it was, the only thing stopping them from making the device itself slightly larger to accommodate it is aesthetics - something you're claiming Dell isn't prioritizing, which is obviously wrong. Did you make these flimsy excuses for Apple when they removed the headphone jack in the iPhone 7? Something tells me you didn't.
I know performance and feeling are getting hurt, and I will never buy a laptop like this but. IT LOOKS SO GOOD, like it's coming out of a sci-fi movie.
I got my Dell XPS 13 Plus a little over 2 weeks ago. Initially, I was annoyed by the short battery life but then I realized I spend most of the time plugged in anyways. The headphone jack issue is easily solved due to my more frequent use of bluetooth headphones or a Thunderbolt dock. With those out of the way, I'm loving the display, graphics, and speed. Personally, being my first Windows laptop ever, I think it's a smooth transition after using Macbooks for 12 years. Thanks for the review Linus!
@@jacedragon Unplugged from 100%, it looks to be 5-6 hours on average for the oled version. I can't speak for the LCD variant though. I'm able to squeeze 5.5 hrs on average, but thats with the screen set to 30%-40% brightness, backlit keyboard off, battery saver on, and setting the "on battery maximum processor utilization" to 20%. It's a lot of fiddling to get such small results in my opinion. I can see these same settings getting up to 7-8 hours on the lcd version though.
The fact that Alex just buffed the palm edge of the XPS is amazing..almost as amazing as our sponsor Dbrand! no but seriously i can see Dbrand making a full keyboard skin since everything is super flush
I guess I would really love to have a headphone jack because of the portablity. Sometimes I am in a DJ party and just plug-in the Laptop with the Amps feels so satisfying. I still miss having a full USB port. Carrying a dongle along just to connect additional devices is like taking care of one extra thing all the time.
It’s every „worst Design Decision by Apple” (including removing the headphone jack on a laptop), that everyone was complaining about, in one product. But it’s cool if someone else builds a laptop like this lol
Yeah, but hating on apple gets you more interactions so… I still find it unfair but those are multi billion dollar companies, not people. if you like the product then don’t let some reviewer tell you otherwise
Unlike an iPhone or something like that, this is only one of a range of models from many equally competing manufacturers. This is for the niche of people who want a small ultralight laptop, but that also need top tier performance. For those people, audio jacks are nice to have, but likely no dealbreaker. Same with the rest, though I got the feeling that aesthetics weren't the main driver behind some of these decisions (like the keyboard, which is apparently ergonomic despite its looks). If this design isn't for you, go find another one. There are tons of other laptops that are ultra light, or high performance, or that have beautiful screens.
@@keonxd8918 It is to you, but many people won't see it that way. And based on Dell's market research (which they do a ton of) removing the headphone jack from this specific model of laptop was better than sacrificing CPU performance. And if you absolutely need your headphone jack, there are tons of other laptop models and companies to choose from.
as a mention about the sponsor, I already have a printer from anycubic (though smaller, it's the photon zero). It's a wonderful printer with great resolution, but be prepared to deal with proprietary files and software! The printer will only accept .p3d files, which are generated by (you guessed it), their proprietary software. It does have an import function where you can import other 3d file formats and convert them to the format, and I finally got it to work, but it was finicky at best. So long story short, they're well priced, very well explained assembly instructions, and give good quality. But you just need to be prepared to screw around with the software to get it to print stuff you actually want, and not just its preinstalled test piece.
> which are generated by (you guessed it), their proprietary software Is ChiTuBox no longer compatible with Anycubic printers? I've found it to be an amazing resin slicer, though I do hope to see an open source option that's as widely compatible (in terms of both OS and printer) as Ultimaker's Cura is for FDM.
@@_sticks_ I mean, the bespoke and proprietary "gcode" formats--not to mention the closed firmwares--are a legitimate problem. My makerspace refuses to make its resin printers available for remote print out of genuine concern that the networking firmwares contain spyware.
01:05 I've seen tons of reviews comparing this to a MacBook Touch Bar as a ripoff. However Dell already had this _years_ ago on their XPS lineup. My chonky XPS M1530 had it and I loved it!
Alienware has never been an enthusiast or professional platform. It’s targeted at kids and other computer illiterate folk. They don’t need to make the products good, just keep pumping money into marketing and the products sell themselves with massive margins.
No headphone jack is an instant no deal for me especially for a laptop. I'm surprised and a little disappointed they decided to ditch it just to save a millimetre or 2
The dongle is included. And I prefer the dongle to putting my headphones directly in because the dongle will act as an anti-stress device on the 3.5mm Jack.
@@OrlandoPerrone Apple gave the same argument when they initially released the iPhone 7 look how that turned out Even then it was inconvenient to be having to constantly swap around devices because the dongle takes up valuable port space. Good luck plugging a mouse and keyboard into this thing without going through the hassle of a whole ass hub
@@stalememe3305 if someone wanted to plug a keyboard and mouse into this, then they'd most like be putting it on a dock anyway since they'd probably also be using it with a larger screen. Otherwise, just use the keyboard and touchpad that is already on it.
Linus Then: "The Apple Touchbar is unacceptable and it will never be acceptable" Linus Now: "Just a few hours with it and it's perfectly fine" Developers: "Nani the fuck?"
The anti-Apple bias is real. I don’t feel the need to defend a trillion dollar company or whatever, but it just comes across petty to let the personality cult stuff leak into supposedly objective tech reviews.
To be fair, Apple tried to do too much with it and failed in that they made it operate in software. Dell chose firmware which will make it reliable. That said, I would never buy any laptop with this level of compromise for and extra 5mm of thinness.
@@ferdievanschalkwyk1669 Thing is, you can configure the Touch Bar to work exactly like the one in the Dell does if you find it too complex. But even then I’m not a fan of it tbh.
I’d love it if you could have a standardised leaderboard of performance per [insert currency here] of all of the devices you test. Maybe other leaderboards too. It would really help comparing laptops.
You realize that these machines have totally different costs in different market areas, right? It would only be applicable to the chosen region and wouldn't really serve any purpose at all. Just take the performance charts widely available online and do the price comparison in the currency / region you'd buy the machine in and you'll get the comparison and price per performance you asked for.
On long days, and depending on your work, every extra 100 gramms can pile up. Also, if you're like an architect, presenting yourself with a sleek ultrabook gives a great impression, especially if you take it out of a nice handbag rather than a backpack. It can influence clients
@@donday6753 This sounds so sad... Working so much that lifting an extra 100 grams becomes unbearable and instead of being appreciated for your work having to buy expensive looking things to impress clients. People who love such a life must feel empty inside.
@@GregoryVeizades I accept your obvious technical-correctness, but note that being 100% technically correct is not necessary when it comes to making a joke.
No headphone jack is a dealbreaker. As is exclusively having USB C. I love thin and light laptops, especially with decent battery life - but I guess this just isn't for me. Having A single USB-A port is just so damn valuable, if you need to plug in a mouse, a thumb drive on the go or whatever. I mostly won't use it, but for those few occasions when I do, iit's damn valuable.
Looks great, however the battery life is always gonna be the issue. I don't really care if the laptop can crunch numbers faster than a Mac if the laptop dies in half the time.
Well that's a preference, both of the laptops would die much sooner if they would be crunching numbers nonstop, and the Dell may even crunch more of them than the Apple one. You can always charge the laptop (even on the go with powerbank) but you cannot make him crunch faster. So it is more on what do you need from the laptop. And since they are not replacing existing XPS lineup it always good to have a choice.
@@syarifairlangga4608 the Dell one, but that was not the core of the question. The question which computer would "crunch" more numbers on battery until it would die...
The escape key is like bread and butter. I couldn't live without it, especially if the display isn't touch screen so it's.. Yeah, I can't lie I am interested in the touch or 2 in 1 version, assume that's on the horizon. Preferably on black, oh no headphone jack though.. Why do OEMs do this.
I have a butterfly keyboard / touch bar MBP for work as a data scientist / software developer, and the lack of a dedicated ESC button has been a consistent and ongoing pain. The fact that Dell "hold my beer'd" that design choice by making it so that ESC requires *holding Fn* guarantees that the only people who use this to do serious work (without connecting to an external keyboard) will curse Dell with their dying commit messages. Or they'll try to, but be unable to get out of Insert mode.
@@GSBarlev I had the same issue with 3d editing on my macbook, you use escape a lot, so much so that I remapped the caps lock key to be escape. As it turns out it's much better that way, because your escape key is so much closer to all the other modifier keys xD
I'll say one thing, despite being of the apple team. This is the first laptop that actually looks like laptops you see in futuristic depictions (like in black mirror). Something refreshing, to say the least.
Yeah.. but functionality has gone to shit with that STUPID touchbar, no real escape and delete keys, and the lack of IO is simply appalling in a machine with that performance.
I dont get thinness over the sake pf function. Chonking the bottom a bit to add airflow and a dac, ya know better performance in two areas seems an obvious choic
It is I believe 2mm thicker than last years model, so given they felt that it was still too thin, and adding another few more mm would be starting to take it out of its ultrabook category, the design changes are acceptable, especially given how they arent that bad. An ultrabook is supposed to be thin, and with a chip that packs this much of a punch, those apparent small drawbacks are fine in my book.
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 I’m on the ship that thinniest is irrelevant after a certain points. Weight is way more important imo and that’s why no laptop has been better in portability sector than the lg gram. What’s the point of having thinner laptop when you still have to carry dongles
@@sentryion3106 To be honest, these days the average person buying this laptop simply isnt using an ethernet or a micro usb cable that often. The ports will be used to plug in a mouse and keyboard, or maybe a usb drive. And if you do use that stuff, most laptops of this type arent going to have an ethernet or full size sd card reader or HDMI, so you are probably carrying around a dongle anyway, so why not leave that stuff for the dongles and have a super portable device for when you dont need to use them? I think there should have been 1 or 2 more thunderbolt ports though.
Just so you know, I have the DELL 13 XPS Plus (which I LOVE) and I sent away for an additional headphone dongle for it. IT didn't WORK! However....I used the Apple 3.5mm to usb-c dongle that I use for my iPads and IT WORKS ON THE DELL XPS 13 PLUS!! Problem solved!! It works quite well in fact. PS: I have the i7 1260P 16GB RAM 512 SSD OLED touch screen platinum version and I cannot believe how fast this thing is. I think this has got to be one of the finest Windows laptops on earth. GREAT WORK DELL!!!
4:18 Why did they use PWM for the function key lights?! It was such a perfect device until I saw that. Explanation: I'm very susceptible for PWM controlled lights and I can see them very often with my bare eye
In pure raw power the M1 is pretty good, but not nowhere near the absolute top. You'd see a regular AMD Ryzen 7 from last year beats the M1 in almost every benchmark hands down, and even the AMD Ryzen 5 series has pretty much the same performance as the M1 as well if not slightly better. Where the M1 really shines is the amount of power per Watt though (and by extend the heat generated). Putting so much power in a low battery consumption like that is pretty much unheard of otherwise, truly amazing engineering.
It's nice that you have a section about repairability, but what I also want to see is Linux compatibility install a distro or two and tell if they work out of the box or not.
My thoughts exactly. The M1 MacBook Air at $1k is still king of the budget choices. If you want to game, you can build a lot more pc for what this Dell 13” notebook costs.
"It is an intel processor so when loaded the temps get into the 90s very quickly"... how the tides have changed. Up until a few years ago that was AMD's quirk.
He did announced it the beginning of the section that's relevant. He's invested in a company that tries to make ultra repairable laptops, not exactly ultra high-end ones and he said he was invested in a company right where he was starting to talk about repairability of this laptop.
Man when I got one of these many years ago the best cpu available was a dual core i7 with HT. Pretty sweet you can cram that much power in such a small device.
While I could get around working with a dongle, and the headphone jack could also be an adapter, The biggest issue is the function row. I know not everyone agrees, but to me that seems absolutely crucial for productivity. Sure modifier keys could be used but I would never willingly use such a system.
My EliteBook with the 1280P plays at least Dark Souls Remastered and Rocket League at a full 60fps (probably higher, but using vsync). I still have to try some other games, but I’m impressed so far.
I am not an Apple fanboy, but I will say, this comparison is unfair, because Dell's best laptop offering should be compared with the MacBook Pro M1 Max, as that is Apple's best shot at a laptop. Plus, the MacBook is being compared to a more expensive compueter.
Also why are there no battery vs pluged in comparisons? the MacBook would be much better on battery (which is what people use a laptop for) and it lasts longer when doing power intesive things.
You can't even get the M1 Max on the 14-inch MBP much less the 13-inch. This is totally dumb. The 16-inch MBP literally weighs 3 times as much as the XPS 13 Plus.
I have a 6 core Dell Precision for work. Running stock Windows 10, the keyboard gets so hot you would scold your fingers. A thermocouple puts the key surface at 45°C. Under Linux, thermald would down-clock to 800Mhz and stay there as the PCH sat at 90°C during a compilation job.
Apple has a decent (and surprisingly well priced) USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter. It also has a pretty good DAC. I use it with my Google Pixel haha
It sounds good. My only problem is that it is very quiet. It's not the dongles fault as it has the same power as the alternative pixel dongle and Samsung dongle, but it is 25% quieter than them on Android. The only way I found to solve the issue was to root my phone as it was so quiet that I couldn't hear the music in the bus with this dongle compared to the others.
@@HyperGadgets I don't have headphones that have a lot of ohms. They're struggling with my IEMs, but I still use it now because it has slightly better sound quality than some of the others. And rooting wasn't an issue tbh.
A $1700 computer from 2022 manages to outperform a older model MacBook from 2020 that costed $1300 at launch, while only having half the battery life. What a great achievement. Really, the comparison here is just silly.
Dave2D did the same thing. I'm starting to feel suspicious about this review, not because they copy or anything but, I'm pretty sure Dell has something to do with this
This review really made me question all other linus reviews. I know neither he or the team is stupid. There must be a reason behind they “liked” such a pointless laptop in 2022. Either he is over-compensating for his investment in this other laptop company or Dell actually sort of sponsored this video. It’s a laptop that doesn’t have a market, why would anyone buy it?
I have an XPS 13 9370 from about 6 years ago and its definitely seen better days. The fan does not work properly, the battery life is horrible, and if the battery is low, the USB-C port for my mouse dosent work properly, and the typing becomes extremely delayed. But before those issues, if i wanted ro watch youtube or stream shows, the audio would glitch out and not load properly on YT, and I frequently have video playback errors. The display is also not as smooth as it could be. Edit: I forgot to lention that the camera is on the bottom of the display. In 2018, I was able to look over it. However, in 2020 it became an issue.
Why wasn't the XPS compared to the 14" MBP? In my opinion the 13" MBP doesn't make a lot of sense.. it's an overprized Air at this point so either compare it to the Air or the 14" version but not the outdated 13".
Because the 14" MBP is not a thin and light. Sure, compared to many gaming/dedicated GPU laptops that would be able to match the graphical performance of the 14", the 14" MBP is a decent amount thinner. But compared to the new 13" XPS, the 14" MBP is chonky. I will agree though, I would have a least liked to see the 14" MBP's performance metrics in addition to the 13" for a frame of reference.
In addition to Logans comment above I'm not sure exactly why you tale issue with comparing the 13 inch macbook pro but also suggested the macbook air as a better comparison. They both have the same SoC, the macbook pro comes with active cooling too so theoretically it can take full advantage of the M1 as well for a better comparison of the "best" of both chips
I wonder if they could have fit in the physical function keys and headphone jack by making it a bit taller with a 3:2 display like Surface devices instead of 16:10.
It is more a problem of thickness than one of height. They needed the function row to be as thin as possible to have as big of a air exhaust as possible, which also lets them have a bigger heatsink. If the made the heatsink longer, it’d have a smaller exhaust
@@ElZamo92 this is wrong. By extending the chassis they could fit the headphone jack. If this is the chassis that can’t fit the port:-- , then extending it to this: ---, will give them extra space that doesn’t interfere with the cooling zone. It would also have the benefit of fitting a larger battery for better battery life, but these decisions would come at the cost of weight and size.
@@dex6316 Well, if the area that would be used for the headphone jack would interfere with the airflow of the cooler then it would. Plus they couldn't fit it as then they would need the hinges to be closer to the middle of the device which would cut down on airflow. Plus the area that would be added would be as far away from the position of the battery so they couldn't use the space for that either. Design isn't as easy at it might seem to us. There is a lot going into designing such a compact device and with that being the goal adding extra weight and size for a headphone jack does seem redundant. I do love a headphone jack but as I rarely carry wired headphones now and only have them at home I don't miss it that much on a device like this.
The design is very compelling and the performance is amazing but even if I could forgive the abysmal ports selection, the lack of a headphone jack is a dealbreaker.
Another example of companies prioritizing thinness and lightness and compactness above all else... and I think overall it's a detriment to the products they create. The kinds of people in scenarios that absolutely require something this powerful but also this thin-and-light are few and far between and are usually special-use cases. For the large majority of us we'd rather something a little bit bigger a little bit thicker and have all the ports that we want. I bought an extended battery for my Note 4 and darn are tripled the weight and doubled thickness. I loved it.
I think that the fact that ultrabooks are here and are continuing to do very well shows that there is plenty of demand for thinner designs. This model is 2mm taller than the previous model and they still felt the need to remove the function row, so any more takes it out of its category of ultrabook. The people who will buy this dont care about having a micro sd card slot or an ethernet port, and if they ever need it they can get a dongle. This is really to compete with the macbook air kind of market, and even with its sacrifices, it seems to make up for it.
For me, weight is the most important factor - I don't really care about thinness. I used to want all the ports all the time but now I'm happy to live with dongles as long as the weight is down as well. Too many years carrying around a business laptop in a backpack between sites or airports or trains. Yes, I still need to carry around a dongle but most would go in checked luggage or a roller bag and just what I know I'll need when travelling (power brick, I guess for this audio adapter) would be in the backpack. My back thanks me for it after chunky ThinkPads. It's also more convenient for me to just unplug the dongles for ethernet/display and leave them at the desk when wandering around the office. It's a personal choice/usage thing, but I can see why they've been so popular.
There are already plenty of those laptops that you want. Go buy those. There is certainly a market for these otherwise Dell wouldn't make them. If they cater for "the average" all the time (which they do; look at most their other, cheaper laptops) then there would be no innovation. To tell off a brand because they cater for a small and niche minority that you're not a part of... That's just jealousy and attention seeking.
Well, the Dell is faster on two specific benchmarks where the M1 isn't exceptional, but I'm not sure it still is faster in daily use (opening apps, loading webpages, starting, waking up...) And about battery life, the Dell has literally half the battery life of the mbp M1 on light tasks (browsing web I suppose), and considering the less energy efficient architecture the gap may be even bigger when we start using the power of these chips... (otherwise just buy a slower laptop with more ports and a complete keyboard)
This laptop is way faster than a mbp M1, only the software isn't as optimized. The only reason M1 is that fast is because it's ARM based, so it's code is a lot lighter to run.
@@justinvzu01 you understand x86 software is generally the best optimized one, right? And that apple wins not just because it's ARM, after all, ARM chips of other manufacturers are half a decade behind in terms of performance.
@@WeicherKeks It’s not less expensive than the 13 in MBP though? It’s pretty close in price for the lower end models ($1200-1500). This model with 14 cores doesn’t seem to be out yet, but you can rest assured it will be just as expensive if not more.
I don't understand why y'all put so little emphasis on the battery comparisons in this review, imo that's just as important as the performance. It's nice that you mention it, but there's no actual comparisons to competitors on the graphs. It would be really useful cause comparing on manufacturers claim the spec sheet to another just doesn't work.
@@iBlancoUC yh it’s true I own the xps13 9310 and but I wouldn’t buy this laptop even if it was $300 cheaper ,there are too many features that are missing ,how can they really liking it ?,I’m sure if Apple removed all these features all together,they would have made a video complain about it .
@@davidnm83 I don't think I agree the sentiment of @AMC. But it just seems like an afterthought in the review, it is never actually tested or shown directly in comparison to anything in competition Mac or Windows. It's just said in passing, like "oh by the way it has terrible battery life compared to Macs". Pretty much always, the deciding factor of when I need repair or replace my laptops is because of battery life and aging. If an aging battery will last twice as long on a laptop, that's amazing. It just doesn't seem important to them.
I used to hate bluetooth, but honestly, the technology is coming along--even the headsets are far more usable with longer battery lives than they used to have. I would also harp about the lack of physical keys, but I'm also a person who typically has a personalized external set of peripherals for different functions on my machines.
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Everyone’s talking about Alex buffing the edge, but I want to give credit to David for his shadow lurking beast acting.
I thought it was Taran lol
Acting?
@@Azraleee 7:07
@@vaisakh_km The joke was that he wasn’t acting and that’s David’s natural state.
@Check my about page link i refuse
Hands down, the best part of the video is Alex, "improving" the chassis with the grinder.
That is a buffing wheel...
@@i_grok_u2902 calm down Becky.
@@jakesimm5889 being wrong is OK?
@@i_grok_u2902 I didn't knew that. Where I live we call that a grinder too.
@@i_grok_u2902 No one cares SMH
I've been using my Dell XPS 13 9310 as my first ever personal computer for 2 years now. And I must say, I have no complaints. It's never had heat issues even when compiling software or playing games and never had driver issues. I think Dell did a pretty nice job. The only thing I hate about it is the I/O though.
LOL, the moment Alex took a polishing/buffer wheel to the edge of it I lost it!
3:15
Literally all of us 😂😂
*okay I'll just casually polish my thousand dollar laptop because it's still too sharp for me
Hope you find it, I hate losing stuff
Yeah that was crazy x)
same! 🤣 I love the Linus reaction after that. uhh anywhoo...
Had my jaw drop 😅😅😅
Dell really has some good engineers. Just someone needs to guide them in good direction.
This could be said about so many companies these days... Nobody at the helm with vision just a bunch of great engineers and university trained management types throwing darts hoping for a bullseye
Dell with laptops: actual useful engineering.
Dell with prebuilt: let's create a problem out of nowhere and over engineering it to death
@@pierb2848 ^ Dell in a nutshell~
And none of then work on Alienware
@@WayStedYou What? Steve praised their mechanical engineering on Ailenware. It's all to work around the fact they refuse to re-tool their chassis so is just throwing money away. However, they do know their stuff.
I think the comparison should’ve had both the m1 13 and M1 pro 14. Honestly if you choose the higher end version you’re basically paying M1 pro 14 price and the Oled version is trying to target that audience for 1850USD with 1260P and comparable 512/16 config.
The 1280P is probably going to be over 2K in this config
But Dells way way more lighter and smaller than the 14 inch, plus it can keep up with pretty much all you can throw on it quite decently.
@@TheRMSAndre1 Yeah, but the 14" M1 pro is much newer and improves in many ways over the "older" style MacBook's so it should at least have been a honorable mention.
maybe, maybe not. In this case you are paying that amount to pack as much power as possible into the 13 inch form factor, if you were to move up a macbook size, you may as well move up an xps size as well.
the essence of this computer is both the 13-inch super-thin form factor and the power.
The M1 14 is sooooo much bigger it didn't seem fair. Given the 14" screen and larger bezels it is much closer in size to the XPS 15 -AC
@@LinusTechTips hey, that's what I said! (sort of)
I like how Alex approached us as if his quick fix was something anyone could do
or should do
Come on man, everyone has power tools at their house to unsharpen laptops duh
You can do it with sandpaper tho
@@dabigbadwolf5081 Sandpaper would be horribly inadequate and inaccurate for the job Alex is doing with whatever that is
@@mayankshrivastava3774 sandpaper would more than do the job, if you're taking sandpaper to your device, I don't think you're going to be bothered about how it looks.
Dell: We can't fit a headphone jack because it's too big
Also Dell: Let's put 4 speakers in the laptop
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To be fair, the headphone jack is too big in a Specific Direction (or combination of directions) and must be at the edge of the case/board. The speakers have different limitations on Where they can go, and while they may be similar or larger in volume, are quite a different shape. Of course, depending on the specifics, you might still be right anyway, but I can see how things might be such that those two statements don't necessarily have any meaningful implications when combined, too.
Also Dell: USB-C they implemented isn't compatible to most smartphone headphone dongle. Make sure customers keep their included dongle or they have to buy from us.
XPS 13 has always been a legendary device, I just got the 2018 one second hand with the i7 and the touch screen, it has such a premium feel to it, everything about it is just high spec. And the ones from a few years ago are going really cheap these days, if you don't have to have the latest thing, they are great devices to pick up second hand
Bought one new back in 2018, amazing piece really, always felt premium compared to any other machine
IDK man, I bought a 2019 one a while back and the thing is a beautiful piece of junk that cant even run a youtube video without the fans kicking on. Maybe I'm just spoiled by my macbook lol.
@@karenwang313 Remove the crapware and watch it fly
I was thinking he would put a strip of black tape along the front of the case to make it less sharp on the palm. But grinding down the aluminum also works…
It’s not aluminum. That’s gorilla glass
Also he's not grinding, he's buffing. A grinding wheel would destroy the poor thing.
@@khoahatake2017 He says it’s aluminum on the edge. I think just the flat top surface is all glass.
@@luipaardprint if we want to get technical by buffing it enough to remove material he grinded it.
@@nedyahyakcam ahh no he buffed it till that much material was removed so not grinded, buffed
This is a small thing but I really like seeing the follow through on your commitment to point out that you invested into Framework whenever you review something similar
He still does for the most part, like on the Wan show last night. I’ll play devil’s advocate and say maybe he just derped.
@@allanperez5625 he did it in this video..
@@allanperez5625 Big oof man, should have watched the whole video before joining in on the comment section.
legally he has to
He has too...
A company that's a client of mine has been using Dell laptops for many years now. Lately it seems as if there has been a lot of issues with them. The old XPS 13 very rarely had any problems, but many of the new XPS 13 plus and Precision 5570 models show issues with overheating and shitty battery life. No one there likes the new XPS 13 plus either. Once the "ooh shiny" effect wears off, you're left with a less practical machine which sucks as it is a tool, not a vase.
Access the Dell Performance app on your device, turning off high performance mode should help some.
I don't blame it.. that cpu has a lot of power consumption
I am going to say this might have more to do with Intel vs Dell. Seen the same with Lenovo ThinkPad's and Dell devices both having more issues in the past year or so.
I have two DELL XPS. XPS 15 (2010) and XPS 13 (2015). Both still alive. I miss the good old laptops that last that many years...
last years model xps15 was perfect out of the box, but My latest xps15 and xps 13 plus were running hot. Bring up the task manager and look at the cpu %, Out of the box this thing was set up to run hot, so I had to kill a few programs, and find out why they were running in the background, then deleted the superfluous ones and downloaded the latest updates for everything. I had a few settings that would start up the hgh powered graphics especially on browsers, this cooled it down and now it runs great. I also use telemetry blocking and process explorer to find the bad actors. Good luck, but eventually you get it running great.
Not a huge fan of some of the features, but damn is the engineering impressive.
@Bear Spicer But this has better performance, better screen, better repairability, and also about *7 years younger*. How could you compare the two?
Intel finally has 14-core processors efficient enough to cram into a small chassis, compared to the MacBook Retina's anemic dual-core across the board SKUs of yester-decade. Just be happy you have the option now and be glad for competition and actual technological advancements.
@starwarscentral no, it's not
not at all
@Bear Spicer M1 chips also hit the 90Cs
@Justin Yadao *40% better
@@nevmiku They’re comparing a $1849 laptop to Apple’s $900 M1… The 14” MacBook Pro ($1999) would probably smoke this thing and do it with more than half the power. Oof!
Honestly, this should just have been a XPS 14. That way they could have the powerful chip and less compromises. And that will also keep the lineup more consistent. I don't get why is taking so long for PC manufacturers to copy Apple's bigger MacBook pros strategy. Still, I think that's a very sick laptop and has me very tempted.
I fully agree. A 14-inch option would be great, at least for my needs.
There actually was an XPS 14 for a few years, I had the last one, it sucked.
They are bringing a precision 5470 it is a 14 inch workstation laptop that's is just like dell xps 15
"I don't get why it's taking so long for others to copy Apple"
You are kidding, right? 14" devices have been the main business-class device for a decade in the PC world. There's a huge selection of different ones.
Now Apple makes a 14" Macbook and You want to get a 14" model of every laptop out there?
Or did I miss Your point?
@@alxace yeah absolutely
I think that dell should outline the touchpad with color in the glass. I think this would seamlessly eliminate any running off the pad, without making the glass uncomfortable
Pre M1 macbook air, I’d be all over an XPS. I had the 12 inch blade and 11 MacBook Air. Love thin and light laptops. The way the m1 sips battery is unreal, and I can just use a regular usb c charger to power it like a phone. It’s got plenty of power for lighter video editing and anything else I need but I never have to worry about keeping the charger
Warning, Warning, iTroll Alert. What I love about M1 MBs is:
-touchscreen
-pen support
-face recognition
-2-in-1 design
-180 degree screen
-repairability
-upgradability
-numerous ports
-OLED screen
And let's not forget all the class-action lawsuits filed because of poor build quality
-2021 crack screen
-2020 green screen
-2019 connectivity issues
-2018 keyboard
-2017 thermal throttling
And that is just in the last 5 years! No wonders MBs only have 15% market share,
an laptopmag rated them 10th out of 11 laptop makers...
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 cringe
Hey ! Because of its sheer processing power,I have been thinking about the MB Air, but coming from a windows machine I am seriously concerned about the lack of ports. So, can the MB air simultaneously connect to an external display at 1080p(or 4k), a wireless mouse keyboard combo and an external hard disk copying some files while charging at the same time ?
I am well aware that we would need to use a dongle, but how much would be the performance penalty? What could be the issues that I face because I am running all of these from a single port ?
I wouldn't be using it like this 90% of the time, but just wondered if I ever wanted to, will it be able to handle it ?
Apple build quality has gone seriously downhill since Steve died.
@@JamieStuff what the hell are you talking about lol
I can't get past removal of escape key and function row. Hated it on my MacBooks, glad Apple turned 180 and brought them back
Also, never touching Dell again after countless QC and longevity issues on my XPS 15 from 2019 which made me hate the product and the company
just finding the sound keys in the dark is such a blessing
@@mypdf The backlight never turns off.
@@dennispremoli7950 not if you have modern HP laptop that doesn't have the option to "always on"
I've had an issue with their alienware R8 computer I bought, and they didn't even make an official announcement about the issue to inform us about the issue. For reference, somehow their software forced an update through the windows update that disabled the power button. After 2 hours of diagnostic and looking around, using 1 of 2 special methods, I was able to power my computer after coming home from work. A huge dell forum post literally spanning over 40 pages of comments, and they only respond about 2-3 weeks later, they are working on it. I contacted them through FB, and the guy plain brushed me aside without responding.
my 2020 xps 15 has had so many problems its insane. I had to have the motherboard replaced twice and one time the technician fucked up and didnt screw in the heat sink. My warranty is expiring in 30 days and im sure its gonna have more problems in the future. Im definitely done with dell after this one.
How he softened the edge literally made my day. I also do stuff like this, practical fixes people would often not do or think of :D.
Who needs a 4k screen in a 13" laptop? This is just ridiculous.
Then don't buy the 4K version... there are two lower resolution screens.
@Lukasz Biedron ... actually not... in the configuration tool when you order the laptop you can get the highest level CPU, RAM and SSD and you still get a choice of 3 different LCDs.
A note about the DAC Equipped dongle: Apple Lightning and Type C to headphone jack dongles, each costing $10 USD, both have a very good DAC chip built in. It outclasses other such dongles many times the price in terms of audio quality.
Can you back up your claims with some reputable sources?
@@tuan.hoang_ not a source, just my experience. Apple usb-c dongle is probably the most popular DAC among younger audio enthousiasts right now. With the increasing popularity of IEMs, many people don't even need an amp. To get anything noticably better, you need to go quite a bit more expensive, I rn use a Motu M2 audio interface as my DAC, but I used an apple dongle for a long time, and it is great value.
Do note, the EU version is noticably quieter, especially on android it really doesn't get loud enough, so if you live in the EU and want to use it on android you should probably import it from the US or get something else.
Too bad the cable has a consistency of a potato chip.
The apple dongle is 24bit/96kHZ, the Samsung dongle is 24bit/192kHz...
@@ヴァニラコトコ yes I listen to my stuff through poweramp
The question I ask myself is, why make all these compromises for a little more cpu power? I know there are cases where you could need it, like rendering, 3D work and simulations, but there are better machines out there for that. Most people would use a small device like this for everyday office work, surfing the web and so on. I'd rather have a headphone jack, maybe some normal usbs and so on. Like I said, I think there are people out there wanting something like this, but it can't be many.
I think this is designed for someone who just plugs it into a dock when at home or the office and have opted to get a laptop rather than a mini pc because they like knowing that they can use it in a pinch on a flight or write emails at a cafe or in class.
To me, these devices are compute modules that happen to work stand-alone. That's why they're super thin and have bad battery.
You answered your question in your own comment. There are specific use cases for having lots of CPU power in a thin & light laptop. Yes, desktop machines or beefier laptops would be better, but they sacrifice portability. Maybe you're okay with hulking around a 10 pound laptop for your architecture firm, but there are plenty of people who need CPU power, but don't want to carry around something so bulky. As for the headphone jack, as someone who uses a laptop for work & school, the thing is on mute 99% of the time.
And they have other laptops for that, this is a specific use case for maybe a university student who needs power for their engineering class or something.
“A little”
0 iq
One thing that isn't talked about enough regarding the headphone jack: bluetooth audio codecs for two-way communication (not just listening to music) are really bad, even on platforms with good bluetooth audio support. Windows almost always drops to HFP/HSP, which use codecs from the early 2000s and even the best two-way codecs available on Linux (which hilariously enough has the best desktop BT audio support these days) are utter garbage compared to even the worst 3$ USB DAC from aliexpress
Yeah, why nobody says that Windows still no support no even the basic bluetooth high defition codec.
I just loved Alex fixing the edge but "Headphone jack Fan" scene is just on par and underrated.
It took me 3-10 mins to go to settings > Bluetooth > add device 😡 grrrrr I’m so mad
edit: I’m joking
I'm an angry 3.5mm user. Fuck Bluetooth.
Ngl, I had to do a full investigation on how to activate the bluetooth shortcut on the notification side of the taskbar, because it wasn't available in my new laptop for whatever reason. It was such a pain in the butt, I don't wish that for anyone
@@Bane_Amesta and this is why I use a mac as my primary laptop and don't mess with Bluetooth on my gaming rig 😂
@@SStarlight9614 My experience with bluetooth is that it's a pretty shitty way to do anything and you're better off with cables for most devices. Game controllers on consoles seem to be an exception, and I'm lead to believe that's largely because the companies that make them spend a lot more time, money, and effort on making them not shit than is usual.
Latency, latency, latency. Audio is Very Obviously out of sync to the point that the video is unwatchable levels of latency. I type fast enough that every 3rd or 4th character is being dropped levels of latency. That sort of thing. Now, how much of that is bluetooth itself vs the manufacturers cheaping out on the components, I don't know, but it's a thing either way.
... and that's before getting into the privacy and security issues bluetooth presents.
Basic rule of thumb: Unless the cable is actually causing a problem, Cable Is Better. ... I fully acknowledge that there are use cases where the cable does actually cause a problem. Mostly involving game controllers or mobile devices.
I love the appreciation for all the engineering decisions we otherwise miss!
this is the same engineering Apple did before the M1. and everyone hated it
@@mojave5661 Thing is, they decided to hide it, which made it look like it's just useless, they things they did, while these guys are relatively more open, which meant the decisions they took were understood well.
@@mojave5661 unlike dell It was done for aesthetics no functional need what so ever!
I'm kinda mind blown by the fact that they made 3 production prototypes for the keyboard alone, talk about overkill, but cool AF IMO
@@justinedzard not that impressive imo
I think the biggest drawback for me would be the headphone jack, sometimes at the last minute realise you’ve forgot to charge your headset at which point a headphone jack comes in handy
As someone with a 2017 MacBook Pro, this has everything I hate about my laptop. Plus less ports
Feel you
If apple made this then people be like "wow this is my next laptop"
@@IAMNOTRANA remember the 12” macbook? Who wanted that lol
@@IAMNOTRANA Apple basically did make this when they released the 2016 MacBook Pro with touch bar. People hated it so Apple reversed course and brought back physical function keys, more ports, and bigger batteries with a thicker chassis to support it all.
The team or person behind all the skits this video deserve high praise. Really made the video consistently entertaining while still covering all the important stats and information
They need to stop using people with nasty hands for the close ups, good lord people need to keep up with their hygiene which includes skin care.
With that price tag. Macbook air is definitely a winner
@@wonrei Ah yes. Even though Linus proved IN THIS VIDEO that this blows the Macbook out of the water.
Looking at Intel's roadmap from before it released, Intel was planning to brand this chip as a Core i9 but decided at the last minute to brand it as a Core i7.
i9 1280/90p would have sounded better 😂
Personally.. never touching Dell ever since I saw your secret shopper video. In case something goes wrong, I know I'd be dealing with the worst, not to mention outright scammy support possible. If they're providing crappy services overseas, I am positive that they won't even care one bit about their Indian customers like me. I've heard too many horror stories about Dell support at this point to even bother considering them for any purchase.
Edit: Lots of people in comments who can't differentiate between Dell corporate and retail customer support. They're not the same. At all.
I completely understand where you are coming from, but dell's business support is fantastic, ive had to use it for my job and they are some of the most helpful people in the business. But you do also end up paying a price premium. If you are considering dells products but hate their customer support, i would highly recommend their business line.
I can say the same here too - from my job working in IT support and having to talk to Dell support often, their business support is very good and they usually have an engineer out for hardware issues within a day or two.
Great Pakistan !!
At this point it more of a "choose your poison" situation. If you look hard enough you will find something unacceptable with all manufactures
dells cust service is awsome in india, secret shopper is an exceptition
They could have just moved the headphone jack down, there's spots where it would have fit below the cooling instead of above. Might be a bit of a weird spot, but I would MUCH rather have the jack, than not have it. I use the headphone jack on my laptop a lot, especially with what Linus said about Windows and bluetooth woes.
agreed
Most gaming laptops have the headphone jack halfway down, so I agree
Look, we all know more about r&d than dell does.
the width of the laptop keeps decreasing as we move down and since xps is so thin its not possible to fit anything on the lower side, hence they have all the ports on the top
@@seik65 We may not be eggsberts, but a portable device w/ a headphone jack is unusable garbage.
These little dell XPS laptops are so good. I've had 3 gaming laptops in my life and I recenetly got a smaller dell xps just for school and I literally will say it's my favorite design. So easy to use and comfortable and it's small and sleeck. It fits in my binder.
3:06 I like how Alex casually takes power tools to a $1000+ laptop
I'm sure this is at LEST 2000+ on the lower side lol
@@iulioh it's 1300 and up
This is when you fire alex for fucking with a $1000+ machine
This looks awesome, but the lack of a headphone socket is a deal breaker for me.
Just get a cheap USB sound card... they exist in a dongle format and will sound better than what you'd get onboard, anyway...
@@MR-vg7yn not solution 🤦♂️
@@MR-vg7yn that’s a very stupid answer, why i have to buy other accessory?
I bought a worse Tablet simply because they have a headphone socket.
In this case, it’s a De(a)ll breaker
Even with these controversial compromises/changes, this seems like a great “MacBook for Windows users”.
But comparing the high-end XPS with the base M1 and not the M1 Pro 14” seems… disingenuous.
Also, worth mentioning that 4K at 13” makes no sense from a scaling perspective. You’re gonna end up with either a tiny UI even at 200% or non-integer scaling which is less than ideal
It's compared with the MBP, not the M1 Air.
It's right there in the text.
@@margaret9314 M1 MBP, not the M1 Pro MBP.
The M1 Pro 14" is soooo much bigger, with the bezels much closer to XPS 15 than 13
@@margaret9314 the MacBook Pro 2020 is the same exact thing as MacBook Air 2020 if we’re being honest (aside some premium features obviously).
@@dinervc9582 yea it’s an MBA that doesn’t thermal throttle. Another way to look at it is if you can keep an M1 MBA cool under full load it’s the same as an M1 MBP but smaller and cheaper.
M1 is also a 2020 chip and we’re now almost halfway through 2022…so no doubt the M2 this year will kick Intel’s front door in again. Especially considering the battery life…It’s not unreasonable to expect the M2 Air/13” MBP to have the same ~18hr battery life as the 2020 models but better performance than this XPS. We’re talking 2 years of development on a chip that is still in its own league for performance to efficiency.
Actually, what I cannot accept is: no actual escape key. That's inexcusable.
Right? Did no one learn from Apple removing the escape key only to bring it back in the next revision of the touchbar
A decision so dumb that there is no escaping it...
@Nahid Islam this is exactly what I do on every machine/keyboard. Most people don't use it and tend to hold shift instead like myself, so having Esc right near where my pinky is located is a no brainer
Use a software tool to remap backtick to escape, and use a key combination to type the backtick and tilde.
@Nahid Islam can you? Probably. Should you have to? No
The XPS you reviewed was way closer in price to a 14” MacBook Pro than a 13” MacBook Pro. I would’ve preferred to see the performance comparison between the M1 pro since that’s the price comparison to the 14 core (and even the higher end 12 Core) variants of this computer
It's not that far from a 13" when you add ram and ssd, especially since they're not upgradable on the Apple.
@@jmickeyd53 Oh so you can upgrade the RAM in the XPS 13 plus? Feel free to prove that. It’s explicitly stated that you can’t in the video.
A lot of the 13 inch MacBooks are specced to be as pricy as this commonly to be fair.
But regardless would like to see it compared to both
@@ben_car_8115 Yeah, that was possibly sloppy phrasing on my part. I just meant that you can't compare "starting at" pricing since you need to upgrade from that to be a useful machine, and Apple charges more per byte than Dell does for the upgrades.
16->32GB ram, Apple charges $400, Dell $150
512GB->2T SSD Apple changes $600, Dell $300
@@jmickeyd53 I agree. One thing that does frustrate me is that I can’t find the 14 core speced model showcased in this video on Dell’s website.
I bought this laptop because the MacBook is too expensive where I live (they have 180% markup over the US prices). It's my most favorite PC for work to date, it's better than my desktop, my old gaming laptop, super fast and awesome Linux support. Plus it's sooooo light and quiet.
I highly recommend this laptop if you are a dev
How are the thermals? I read somewhere that the laptop suffers from thermal throttling, is it true?
The sad thing is, as a music producer, that laptop seems like a great alternative to a macbook for that, because it has a blazingly fast CPU for audio processing, and it's small enough to fit almost anywhere. The lack of a headphone jack is a huge dealbreaker. There's no way they couldn't fit it _somewhere._
For now, I'll just keep one laptop, my Omen 15, and use that for everything, though it would be nice to have a laptop with storage just dedicated to music stuff, rather than having to cram it in with my games too.
Edit:
It also suffers from the main issue I have with ultrabooks. It costs _more_ money, for _worse_ performance than a gaming laptop. Sure, it's smaller and lasts longer on battery, but there's also not many situations where you won't have access to an outlet, but need to do work on a laptop, and there's not many cases where a 15" laptop is less convenient than a 13", other than trying to set it down on really small surfaces.
It's a question I always have about ultrabooks. Why get an iGPU, 8GB of ram, and an i7 for ~$1500, when you could get a 3060 mobile, 16GB of ram, a pretty respectable i5, and a HFR display for ~$950? I don't think the convenience is worth the huge price gap, and it ruins all the benefits I can think of when purchasing an ultrabook.
Fellow music producer here, yeah my biggest gripe is the lack of a headphone jack too. Also, the pursuit of ever smaller machines at the cost of usability and IO. I'll always take a machine that's bulkier if that means I can hook more shit up to it and end up with a dedicated gpu as well. I'm incredibly excited to see what all these extra cores will do for music production tho. Every DAW these days relies heavily on multicore for large track numbers so higher core/thread count is always king. What's wild to me is that practically every 4c/8c cpu since the 8000 core series handles production tasks wonderfully. The things people will be able to come up with that much processing grunt is an awesome thing to think about.
'no way they couldn't fit it somewhere, trust me i am a music producer so I know EVERYTHING about how a laptop is createed'
I need to carry my laptop to school everyday so i bought the XPS 13 (2021 model) becuase of how light it is. I used to have a gaming laptop that was much heavier, and also had poor battery life which meant I would need to carry the heavy power brick with me too.
If you're a music producer you should really have a dedicated DAC lol.
@@PhatOof Anyone's a "music producer" these days
Small correction: Apple's $10 USB-C DAC Dongles (for iPads) are actually fairly common and can be used in place of Dell's here. Not defending the lack of a headphone jack on this particular laptop, of course, but you're not screwed if you lose the one in the box.
The only downside with the dongle (I have one) is the low volume if you're running any headphones with more than 16Ohm impedance (ie. Most over-ear headphones).
Other than that, I keep mine as a backup when my Bluetooth adapter runs out of battery. At least I'll have sound.
@Bear Spicer So, you have posted/ trolled enough= you love apple and aren't going to buy this... most people don't want to move to apple, so if you want to preach to the choir there are the MAC forums.
@Bear Spicer Mod it means void warranty. No-no in Apple land
Really hoping they add a physical function row, a headphone jack and a standard trackpad with the larger models. Or, just add that finish to their regular XPS models.
No physical escape key makes it a deal breaker for a lot of software engineers as well, but overall it's a neat and sleek concept that looks like it's proven to delight even the most critical reviewers like Linus, and that's saying something!
You could always remap caps-lock to be esc in the operating system, at least. Doesn't help with the function keys, though.
@@FreeFireFull Yea that's a common fix, but the muscle memory is a big part of it for me, using several different keyboards throughout the day. Same for function keys, I use them pretty heavily for custom mappings on my machines.
I also realize this particular Dell is pretty niche, but for a while there when Apple didn't even offer a powerful MacBook without a Touch Bar, it was miserable trying to decide when it would be a good time to upgrade from a 2013 MacBook Air at the time.
I ended up going with a PC notebook last year, only to find that Apple's 14-inch MBP was exactly what I'd wanted for 5 years 😆
Ikr like how tf am I supposed to pause games lol
It's time to get a new muscle memory then. ESC is in the worst spot if you use it often. You are asking for an RSI injury
No physical F-keys is just as stupid for the exact same type of people.
Also, they don't work when wearing gloves, which might be part of your work outfit. Or when laptops are required to have a cover for hygenic purposes, like in a lab or hospital.
I've been waiting to replace my XPS 15. I don't like Macbooks, so its great seeing some powerful windows laptops being released. I hope to see Dell continue to develop their XPS range and release a new 15-17' laptop without the compromises, sometime in the near future.
This is why I love my Alienware 13r3 so much. It was not afraid to be chonky and thus has all the ports you would ever want and cooling for days. Still daily it and am forever saddened that it was not given another generation.
Just got my G15 5521 and this givres me good hope. Tho I kinda already hate it because it needed literally 10 Windows 11 reinstalls tong et rid of the bloatwares
@@horace3673 I’m getting the 5225 and I just plan on getting fedora linux as daily driver and using qemu for windows virtual machine, I’ve heard qeme does gaming performance almost identical to windows install anyway
you guys really worked james hard, i dont think ive ever seen so many ad reads in the same set with the same person before, i hope everyone got better quickly!
I really appreciate you guys taking some time to address the repairability. My Dell laptop's keyboard failed and my particular model was designed to have an unreplaceable keyboard. Had I known that beforehand, I don't think I would have bought this laptop. I mean keyboards are supposed to be one of the easiest things to replace in a laptop!
I recently got my hands on a then broken 2021 XPS 13 and I am honestly just blown away. I hate Dell, but this little laptop... I love it!
This one at least has a headphone jack, but a mico HDMI would have been nice.
Fixed it up and now keeping it for the moment.
The performance of this laptop looks insane, but since I use Neovim for all my coding I couldn't survive not having a tactile escape key.
:inoremap jj
Caps lock is a great button to remap to escape! I could not see myself using vim without it tbh. You also have Ctrl+c I believe 🤔
Yeah, I had to use a touch bar Mac for work back when they were new and I couldn't get past the lack of physical escape key - no way I'd buy this based on that experience
Ummm u guys don't use the caps lock key???
real programmers remap caps lock to esc
I get that Ultrabooks are supposed to be super extra thin. However, I'd just take something a bit thicker and with even better cooling and a headphone jack with far less engineering hurdles and less cost.
I love Linus's response to the grinding down of the sharp edge on the keyboard
It's fascinating to see all the people in comment sections excusing these design decisions after declaring Macs to be dead and wastes of money for 5 years because of Apple's identical design decisions. In both cases, they sacrificed functionality for aesthetics and thinness - and Dell took it to an extreme that even Apple didn't dare (ie. the lack of a headphone jack).
Apple did something pretty similar actually
The dell XPS just looks a lot like the 12 inch 2015 MacBook, just much more powerful
Apple didn’t take away the headphone Jack with that laptop but they did put only one single USB C slot
Apple took away things for primarily aesthetic reasons and secondly for performance things. On top of that, people kept telling a white lie that they didn't have space to put those ports, when as proven by a million tear down and repair videos of the device, they infact did have the space and they could've fit the ports if they really wanted to, they just didn't.
Dell on the other hand, has put performance first and aesthetics as second priority.
They literally can not put the headphone jack inside because just those few milimeters of space would make it that they wouldn't be able to put the Intel P chip inside and cool it properly.
The laptop here is engineered and designed around the processor and power, not the other way around.
@@shabanabader2948 all those compromises just for performance? Bruh
@@keonxd8918 Ngl, performance matters the most in a machine.
@@shabanabader2948 That's absurd. They obviously could have designed around a headphone jack had they wanted to - it's tiny. There's no way such a tiny component would be impossible to incorporate, and even if it was, the only thing stopping them from making the device itself slightly larger to accommodate it is aesthetics - something you're claiming Dell isn't prioritizing, which is obviously wrong. Did you make these flimsy excuses for Apple when they removed the headphone jack in the iPhone 7? Something tells me you didn't.
I know performance and feeling are getting hurt, and I will never buy a laptop like this but.
IT LOOKS SO GOOD, like it's coming out of a sci-fi movie.
I got my Dell XPS 13 Plus a little over 2 weeks ago. Initially, I was annoyed by the short battery life but then I realized I spend most of the time plugged in anyways. The headphone jack issue is easily solved due to my more frequent use of bluetooth headphones or a Thunderbolt dock. With those out of the way, I'm loving the display, graphics, and speed. Personally, being my first Windows laptop ever, I think it's a smooth transition after using Macbooks for 12 years. Thanks for the review Linus!
would it last through a normal school day?
How long does it last unplugged from 100%? I’m coming from a laptop that lasts 2 hours (2018 gaming laptop)
@@jacedragon Unplugged from 100%, it looks to be 5-6 hours on average for the oled version. I can't speak for the LCD variant though. I'm able to squeeze 5.5 hrs on average, but thats with the screen set to 30%-40% brightness, backlit keyboard off, battery saver on, and setting the "on battery maximum processor utilization" to 20%. It's a lot of fiddling to get such small results in my opinion. I can see these same settings getting up to 7-8 hours on the lcd version though.
The fact that Alex just buffed the palm edge of the XPS is amazing..almost as amazing as our sponsor Dbrand!
no but seriously i can see Dbrand making a full keyboard skin since everything is super flush
Oh dang, Alex' chassis/keyboard modification is utterly hilarious. It is rare that I laugh loud and long watching youtube, but that did it.
I guess I would really love to have a headphone jack because of the portablity. Sometimes I am in a DJ party and just plug-in the Laptop with the Amps feels so satisfying. I still miss having a full USB port. Carrying a dongle along just to connect additional devices is like taking care of one extra thing all the time.
It’s every „worst Design Decision by Apple” (including removing the headphone jack on a laptop), that everyone was complaining about, in one product. But it’s cool if someone else builds a laptop like this lol
Agreed, it's not any better than a Macbook in terms of bad connectivity and I hate that
Yeah, but hating on apple gets you more interactions so…
I still find it unfair but those are multi billion dollar companies, not people. if you like the product then don’t let some reviewer tell you otherwise
Unlike an iPhone or something like that, this is only one of a range of models from many equally competing manufacturers. This is for the niche of people who want a small ultralight laptop, but that also need top tier performance. For those people, audio jacks are nice to have, but likely no dealbreaker. Same with the rest, though I got the feeling that aesthetics weren't the main driver behind some of these decisions (like the keyboard, which is apparently ergonomic despite its looks). If this design isn't for you, go find another one. There are tons of other laptops that are ultra light, or high performance, or that have beautiful screens.
@@canadajones9635 the removal of the headphone jack is a deal breaker
@@keonxd8918 It is to you, but many people won't see it that way. And based on Dell's market research (which they do a ton of) removing the headphone jack from this specific model of laptop was better than sacrificing CPU performance.
And if you absolutely need your headphone jack, there are tons of other laptop models and companies to choose from.
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I have the photon mono and have zero of those issues. Use whatever slicer you want.
> which are generated by (you guessed it), their proprietary software
Is ChiTuBox no longer compatible with Anycubic printers? I've found it to be an amazing resin slicer, though I do hope to see an open source option that's as widely compatible (in terms of both OS and printer) as Ultimaker's Cura is for FDM.
@@GSBarlev it is. And lecee slicer works too. I don't know what specifically he's talking about.
@@_sticks_ I mean, the bespoke and proprietary "gcode" formats--not to mention the closed firmwares--are a legitimate problem. My makerspace refuses to make its resin printers available for remote print out of genuine concern that the networking firmwares contain spyware.
@@GSBarlev gotcha! That makes sense in your use case. Does octoprint work with SLA?
01:05 I've seen tons of reviews comparing this to a MacBook Touch Bar as a ripoff. However Dell already had this _years_ ago on their XPS lineup. My chonky XPS M1530 had it and I loved it!
The apple usb c to 3.5mm dac is actually really good, and recommended by audiophiles for a budget under $80. Fun fact!
It's under 10 bucks too, it's amazing.
Well, at least we know where Dell is spending all of its money...... because Alienware certainly isn't getting any of it.
Alienware has never been an enthusiast or professional platform. It’s targeted at kids and other computer illiterate folk. They don’t need to make the products good, just keep pumping money into marketing and the products sell themselves with massive margins.
No headphone jack is an instant no deal for me especially for a laptop. I'm surprised and a little disappointed they decided to ditch it just to save a millimetre or 2
The dongle is included. And I prefer the dongle to putting my headphones directly in because the dongle will act as an anti-stress device on the 3.5mm Jack.
@@OrlandoPerrone Apple gave the same argument when they initially released the iPhone 7 look how that turned out
Even then it was inconvenient to be having to constantly swap around devices because the dongle takes up valuable port space. Good luck plugging a mouse and keyboard into this thing without going through the hassle of a whole ass hub
Did you watch the part where Linus explains they needed the extra 2 mm to fit the cooling system to have the 2x cpu upgrade from last year's xps
@@stalememe3305 if someone wanted to plug a keyboard and mouse into this, then they'd most like be putting it on a dock anyway since they'd probably also be using it with a larger screen. Otherwise, just use the keyboard and touchpad that is already on it.
I’m glad I got the mbp 14 now, I was worried I was gonna regret with dells next laptop
Yep, they should’ve included a comparison to the M1 Pro in the 14”, it’s actually faster than the i7.
Linus Then: "The Apple Touchbar is unacceptable and it will never be acceptable"
Linus Now: "Just a few hours with it and it's perfectly fine"
Developers: "Nani the fuck?"
The anti-Apple bias is real.
I don’t feel the need to defend a trillion dollar company or whatever, but it just comes across petty to let the personality cult stuff leak into supposedly objective tech reviews.
To be fair, Apple tried to do too much with it and failed in that they made it operate in software. Dell chose firmware which will make it reliable. That said, I would never buy any laptop with this level of compromise for and extra 5mm of thinness.
@@ferdievanschalkwyk1669 sure, I just think non-physical escape keys are always worthy of hate and criticism, no matter the brand 😊
@@ferdievanschalkwyk1669 Thing is, you can configure the Touch Bar to work exactly like the one in the Dell does if you find it too complex.
But even then I’m not a fan of it tbh.
I’d love it if you could have a standardised leaderboard of performance per [insert currency here] of all of the devices you test. Maybe other leaderboards too. It would really help comparing laptops.
You realize that these machines have totally different costs in different market areas, right? It would only be applicable to the chosen region and wouldn't really serve any purpose at all. Just take the performance charts widely available online and do the price comparison in the currency / region you'd buy the machine in and you'll get the comparison and price per performance you asked for.
The question I ask myself is, why make all these compromises just to be slightly more thin and light?
Very specific niche of rich people
Because its an ultrabook
On long days, and depending on your work, every extra 100 gramms can pile up. Also, if you're like an architect, presenting yourself with a sleek ultrabook gives a great impression, especially if you take it out of a nice handbag rather than a backpack. It can influence clients
@@donday6753 that’s called classism
@@donday6753 This sounds so sad... Working so much that lifting an extra 100 grams becomes unbearable and instead of being appreciated for your work having to buy expensive looking things to impress clients.
People who love such a life must feel empty inside.
Alex - "This laptop has sharp edges. Fuck it, we have a grinder!"
That was a buffing wheel
@@GregoryVeizades yup!
@@GregoryVeizades I accept your obvious technical-correctness, but note that being 100% technically correct is not necessary when it comes to making a joke.
No headphone jack is a dealbreaker.
As is exclusively having USB C.
I love thin and light laptops, especially with decent battery life - but I guess this just isn't for me. Having A single USB-A port is just so damn valuable, if you need to plug in a mouse, a thumb drive on the go or whatever. I mostly won't use it, but for those few occasions when I do, iit's damn valuable.
Looks great, however the battery life is always gonna be the issue. I don't really care if the laptop can crunch numbers faster than a Mac if the laptop dies in half the time.
True ... If consumer want performance they buy Gaming laptop with huge cooling.
For a LAPtop. The battery should last longer
Well that's a preference, both of the laptops would die much sooner if they would be crunching numbers nonstop, and the Dell may even crunch more of them than the Apple one. You can always charge the laptop (even on the go with powerbank) but you cannot make him crunch faster. So it is more on what do you need from the laptop. And since they are not replacing existing XPS lineup it always good to have a choice.
@@kycera which one crunch faster without power brick ?
We know the answer ..
@@syarifairlangga4608 the Dell one, but that was not the core of the question. The question which computer would "crunch" more numbers on battery until it would die...
If it dies half fast I would like to see a very fast charging on the battery like 30 min for 80% or more
The escape key is like bread and butter. I couldn't live without it, especially if the display isn't touch screen so it's.. Yeah, I can't lie I am interested in the touch or 2 in 1 version, assume that's on the horizon. Preferably on black, oh no headphone jack though.. Why do OEMs do this.
He told you why, did you watch the video?
For me the touch function keys and the no audio jack just make this laptop a NO go. Even if it's got good performance
You need one of those single button Corsair keyboards they made for Apr 1.
I have a butterfly keyboard / touch bar MBP for work as a data scientist / software developer, and the lack of a dedicated ESC button has been a consistent and ongoing pain. The fact that Dell "hold my beer'd" that design choice by making it so that ESC requires *holding Fn* guarantees that the only people who use this to do serious work (without connecting to an external keyboard) will curse Dell with their dying commit messages.
Or they'll try to, but be unable to get out of Insert mode.
@@GSBarlev I had the same issue with 3d editing on my macbook, you use escape a lot, so much so that I remapped the caps lock key to be escape. As it turns out it's much better that way, because your escape key is so much closer to all the other modifier keys xD
all these years i was hurt by laptops' edge and then came this guy just buffed the f out of it using a sanding wheel..this is genius af 10/10
I'll say one thing, despite being of the apple team.
This is the first laptop that actually looks like laptops you see in futuristic depictions (like in black mirror).
Something refreshing, to say the least.
Yeah.. but functionality has gone to shit with that STUPID touchbar, no real escape and delete keys, and the lack of IO is simply appalling in a machine with that performance.
I dont get thinness over the sake pf function. Chonking the bottom a bit to add airflow and a dac, ya know better performance in two areas seems an obvious choic
It is I believe 2mm thicker than last years model, so given they felt that it was still too thin, and adding another few more mm would be starting to take it out of its ultrabook category, the design changes are acceptable, especially given how they arent that bad. An ultrabook is supposed to be thin, and with a chip that packs this much of a punch, those apparent small drawbacks are fine in my book.
It's supposed to be thin in order to be portable, if it's not portable for its class ppl will buy something else
@@pneumonoultramicroscopicsi4065 I’m on the ship that thinniest is irrelevant after a certain points. Weight is way more important imo and that’s why no laptop has been better in portability sector than the lg gram. What’s the point of having thinner laptop when you still have to carry dongles
@@sentryion3106 To be honest, these days the average person buying this laptop simply isnt using an ethernet or a micro usb cable that often. The ports will be used to plug in a mouse and keyboard, or maybe a usb drive. And if you do use that stuff, most laptops of this type arent going to have an ethernet or full size sd card reader or HDMI, so you are probably carrying around a dongle anyway, so why not leave that stuff for the dongles and have a super portable device for when you dont need to use them? I think there should have been 1 or 2 more thunderbolt ports though.
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Just so you know, I have the DELL 13 XPS Plus (which I LOVE) and I sent away for an additional headphone dongle for it. IT didn't WORK! However....I used the Apple 3.5mm to usb-c dongle that I use for my iPads and IT WORKS ON THE DELL XPS 13 PLUS!! Problem solved!! It works quite well in fact. PS: I have the i7 1260P 16GB RAM 512 SSD OLED touch screen platinum version and I cannot believe how fast this thing is. I think this has got to be one of the finest Windows laptops on earth. GREAT WORK DELL!!!
4:18 Why did they use PWM for the function key lights?! It was such a perfect device until I saw that. Explanation: I'm very susceptible for PWM controlled lights and I can see them very often with my bare eye
lol...ok bud.
I was wondering that too. I'd guess power, but LED's use little power anyway and they could have always-on LED's at a lower brightness.
Sure Sure
yeah i am too, I would find this really annoying honeatly
@@isaackvasager9957 are you having trouble understanding ?
Pretty impressive it beat the M1, glad that the competition is starting to stack up. I’ll be sticking with my MacOS machine though.
In pure raw power the M1 is pretty good, but not nowhere near the absolute top. You'd see a regular AMD Ryzen 7 from last year beats the M1 in almost every benchmark hands down, and even the AMD Ryzen 5 series has pretty much the same performance as the M1 as well if not slightly better.
Where the M1 really shines is the amount of power per Watt though (and by extend the heat generated). Putting so much power in a low battery consumption like that is pretty much unheard of otherwise, truly amazing engineering.
It's nice that you have a section about repairability, but what I also want to see is Linux compatibility install a distro or two and tell if they work out of the box or not.
the price seems to be more aligned with the 14" MacBook Pro, I checked the cell website and it is $1849 vs the mac's $1999
But then they couldn’t have said that it „destroys“ Apple weakest, 2 year old chip, because we all know how it would fare against the M1 Pro.
@@user-jt6xh2ln9z they’re utterly scraping the bottom of the barrel at this stage. PC manufacturers need to do better.
My thoughts exactly. The M1 MacBook Air at $1k is still king of the budget choices. If you want to game, you can build a lot more pc for what this Dell 13” notebook costs.
Yeah, I have no idea who this computer is for
@@vvade9789 It is for people who hate Apple because it is Apple. ;-)
"It is an intel processor so when loaded the temps get into the 90s very quickly"... how the tides have changed. Up until a few years ago that was AMD's quirk.
XPS line is GOAT. I still adore my 5yr old XPS13 but will prob update to this version soon
Would like to see disclosures announced at the very beginning of the laptop review instead of toward the end. This is pretty standard in medicine.
He did announced it the beginning of the section that's relevant. He's invested in a company that tries to make ultra repairable laptops, not exactly ultra high-end ones and he said he was invested in a company right where he was starting to talk about repairability of this laptop.
Man when I got one of these many years ago the best cpu available was a dual core i7 with HT. Pretty sweet you can cram that much power in such a small device.
While I could get around working with a dongle, and the headphone jack could also be an adapter, The biggest issue is the function row.
I know not everyone agrees, but to me that seems absolutely crucial for productivity. Sure modifier keys could be used but I would never willingly use such a system.
When Linus is jumping at 0:30, you can see how whole room is shaking
0:53 I fully agree, Love Trip from Takako Mamiya is an incredible album. Too bad it is the only one she ever made.
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good taste can agree
My EliteBook with the 1280P plays at least Dark Souls Remastered and Rocket League at a full 60fps (probably higher, but using vsync). I still have to try some other games, but I’m impressed so far.
What makes the function row here “more functional” than Apple’s Touch Bar? I only see negatives.
probably reliability since its fixed and not dynamically changing
Dave2D said it fits into muscle memory much easily and keys are more... obvious to hit
Its less functional but better like linus said
Touch bar wasnt purely a replacement for fn, media keys like this
A softlocked keypad is by definition not functional at all
@@revanchistvakarian575 that statement is just plain wrong
I am not an Apple fanboy, but I will say, this comparison is unfair, because Dell's best laptop offering should be compared with the MacBook Pro M1 Max, as that is Apple's best shot at a laptop. Plus, the MacBook is being compared to a more expensive compueter.
Plus M1 is almost 2 yrs old
It shouldn't, as we here are comparing 13 inch Laptops. One more inch can mean a lot in terms of cooling.
Wut?? 13" vs 13" or comparable is the norm.
Apples problem of not having pro max on their mac air
Also why are there no battery vs pluged in comparisons? the MacBook would be much better on battery (which is what people use a laptop for) and it lasts longer when doing power intesive things.
You can't even get the M1 Max on the 14-inch MBP much less the 13-inch. This is totally dumb. The 16-inch MBP literally weighs 3 times as much as the XPS 13 Plus.
I have a 6 core Dell Precision for work. Running stock Windows 10, the keyboard gets so hot you would scold your fingers. A thermocouple puts the key surface at 45°C. Under Linux, thermald would down-clock to 800Mhz and stay there as the PCH sat at 90°C during a compilation job.
Apple has a decent (and surprisingly well priced) USB-C to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter. It also has a pretty good DAC. I use it with my Google Pixel haha
It sounds good. My only problem is that it is very quiet. It's not the dongles fault as it has the same power as the alternative pixel dongle and Samsung dongle, but it is 25% quieter than them on Android. The only way I found to solve the issue was to root my phone as it was so quiet that I couldn't hear the music in the bus with this dongle compared to the others.
@@alexrevolution1 I've heard this too but personally my headphones are very easy to drive so haven't noticed it personally.
@@alexrevolution1 yeah i had that same problem when trying to plug my HD600s into it, the Meizu HiFi dongle is much better imo
@@HyperGadgets I don't have headphones that have a lot of ohms. They're struggling with my IEMs, but I still use it now because it has slightly better sound quality than some of the others. And rooting wasn't an issue tbh.
A $1700 computer from 2022 manages to outperform a older model MacBook from 2020 that costed $1300 at launch, while only having half the battery life. What a great achievement. Really, the comparison here is just silly.
Dave2D did the same thing. I'm starting to feel suspicious about this review, not because they copy or anything but, I'm pretty sure Dell has something to do with this
@@keonxd8918 100% - they were told to compare it specifically to the 13" MBP
This review really made me question all other linus reviews.
I know neither he or the team is stupid. There must be a reason behind they “liked” such a pointless laptop in 2022.
Either he is over-compensating for his investment in this other laptop company or Dell actually sort of sponsored this video. It’s a laptop that doesn’t have a market, why would anyone buy it?
I have an XPS 13 9370 from about 6 years ago and its definitely seen better days. The fan does not work properly, the battery life is horrible, and if the battery is low, the USB-C port for my mouse dosent work properly, and the typing becomes extremely delayed.
But before those issues, if i wanted ro watch youtube or stream shows, the audio would glitch out and not load properly on YT, and I frequently have video playback errors. The display is also not as smooth as it could be.
Edit: I forgot to lention that the camera is on the bottom of the display. In 2018, I was able to look over it. However, in 2020 it became an issue.
Why wasn't the XPS compared to the 14" MBP? In my opinion the 13" MBP doesn't make a lot of sense.. it's an overprized Air at this point so either compare it to the Air or the 14" version but not the outdated 13".
Because the 14" MBP is not a thin and light. Sure, compared to many gaming/dedicated GPU laptops that would be able to match the graphical performance of the 14", the 14" MBP is a decent amount thinner. But compared to the new 13" XPS, the 14" MBP is chonky. I will agree though, I would have a least liked to see the 14" MBP's performance metrics in addition to the 13" for a frame of reference.
Yeah, I'd be very interested to see the top model XPS vs the 14" MBP at comparable prices.
True, I have M1 Air and Pro is just my Air with fans.
In addition to Logans comment above I'm not sure exactly why you tale issue with comparing the 13 inch macbook pro but also suggested the macbook air as a better comparison. They both have the same SoC, the macbook pro comes with active cooling too so theoretically it can take full advantage of the M1 as well for a better comparison of the "best" of both chips
Because the macbook pro and air only come with 256 gigs of storage and 8 gigs of memory.
I wonder if they could have fit in the physical function keys and headphone jack by making it a bit taller with a 3:2 display like Surface devices instead of 16:10.
"taller?? Who wants taller screens?" - dell
It is more a problem of thickness than one of height. They needed the function row to be as thin as possible to have as big of a air exhaust as possible, which also lets them have a bigger heatsink. If the made the heatsink longer, it’d have a smaller exhaust
@@JeskidoYT everyone who actually uses their laptop for light coding, having more information on screen helps out a lot..
@@ElZamo92 this is wrong. By extending the chassis they could fit the headphone jack.
If this is the chassis that can’t fit the port:-- , then extending it to this: ---, will give them extra space that doesn’t interfere with the cooling zone. It would also have the benefit of fitting a larger battery for better battery life, but these decisions would come at the cost of weight and size.
@@dex6316 Well, if the area that would be used for the headphone jack would interfere with the airflow of the cooler then it would. Plus they couldn't fit it as then they would need the hinges to be closer to the middle of the device which would cut down on airflow. Plus the area that would be added would be as far away from the position of the battery so they couldn't use the space for that either. Design isn't as easy at it might seem to us. There is a lot going into designing such a compact device and with that being the goal adding extra weight and size for a headphone jack does seem redundant. I do love a headphone jack but as I rarely carry wired headphones now and only have them at home I don't miss it that much on a device like this.
The design is very compelling and the performance is amazing but even if I could forgive the abysmal ports selection, the lack of a headphone jack is a dealbreaker.
My experience with Dell XPS has told me never again. Also only 6 hours of battery life for the OLED model is just unacceptable.
If you're expecting great battery life on a 3.5K OLED display (Especially on the XPS 15), that's on you lol
@@Evie0133 my MacBook has insane battery life and it's a comparable if not better screen. Clearly it can be done
@@Jakwan01 Yeah, especially on Apple Silicon ones, the battery life is freakin nuts haha
Another example of companies prioritizing thinness and lightness and compactness above all else... and I think overall it's a detriment to the products they create. The kinds of people in scenarios that absolutely require something this powerful but also this thin-and-light are few and far between and are usually special-use cases. For the large majority of us we'd rather something a little bit bigger a little bit thicker and have all the ports that we want. I bought an extended battery for my Note 4 and darn are tripled the weight and doubled thickness. I loved it.
I think that the fact that ultrabooks are here and are continuing to do very well shows that there is plenty of demand for thinner designs. This model is 2mm taller than the previous model and they still felt the need to remove the function row, so any more takes it out of its category of ultrabook. The people who will buy this dont care about having a micro sd card slot or an ethernet port, and if they ever need it they can get a dongle. This is really to compete with the macbook air kind of market, and even with its sacrifices, it seems to make up for it.
For me, weight is the most important factor - I don't really care about thinness. I used to want all the ports all the time but now I'm happy to live with dongles as long as the weight is down as well. Too many years carrying around a business laptop in a backpack between sites or airports or trains. Yes, I still need to carry around a dongle but most would go in checked luggage or a roller bag and just what I know I'll need when travelling (power brick, I guess for this audio adapter) would be in the backpack. My back thanks me for it after chunky ThinkPads. It's also more convenient for me to just unplug the dongles for ethernet/display and leave them at the desk when wandering around the office. It's a personal choice/usage thing, but I can see why they've been so popular.
There are already plenty of those laptops that you want. Go buy those. There is certainly a market for these otherwise Dell wouldn't make them. If they cater for "the average" all the time (which they do; look at most their other, cheaper laptops) then there would be no innovation.
To tell off a brand because they cater for a small and niche minority that you're not a part of... That's just jealousy and attention seeking.
My roommate has this laptop. He loves it, he plays BeamNG drive on it all the time, and honestly it makes me regret my MacBook.
Well, the Dell is faster on two specific benchmarks where the M1 isn't exceptional, but I'm not sure it still is faster in daily use (opening apps, loading webpages, starting, waking up...)
And about battery life, the Dell has literally half the battery life of the mbp M1 on light tasks (browsing web I suppose), and considering the less energy efficient architecture the gap may be even bigger when we start using the power of these chips... (otherwise just buy a slower laptop with more ports and a complete keyboard)
This laptop is way faster than a mbp M1, only the software isn't as optimized. The only reason M1 is that fast is because it's ARM based, so it's code is a lot lighter to run.
@@justinvzu01 you understand x86 software is generally the best optimized one, right? And that apple wins not just because it's ARM, after all, ARM chips of other manufacturers are half a decade behind in terms of performance.
This thing is compared to a MBP that is way less expensive. I don't even see the point.
@@WeicherKeks It’s not less expensive than the 13 in MBP though? It’s pretty close in price for the lower end models ($1200-1500). This model with 14 cores doesn’t seem to be out yet, but you can rest assured it will be just as expensive if not more.
@@justinvzu01 The opposite bud. People have been developing PC apps for X86 for decades. They are the most optimized of all present software.
I don't understand why y'all put so little emphasis on the battery comparisons in this review, imo that's just as important as the performance. It's nice that you mention it, but there's no actual comparisons to competitors on the graphs. It would be really useful cause comparing on manufacturers claim the spec sheet to another just doesn't work.
Because it’s not a review. It’s a marketing spot disguised as a review. This is greasy.
@@iBlancoUC yh it’s true I own the xps13 9310 and but I wouldn’t buy this laptop even if it was $300 cheaper ,there are too many features that are missing ,how can they really liking it ?,I’m sure if Apple removed all these features all together,they would have made a video complain about it .
@@iBlancoUC He literally mentions in the video that the m1 would get double the battery life than the oled screen model..
@@davidnm83 I don't think I agree the sentiment of @AMC. But it just seems like an afterthought in the review, it is never actually tested or shown directly in comparison to anything in competition Mac or Windows. It's just said in passing, like "oh by the way it has terrible battery life compared to Macs". Pretty much always, the deciding factor of when I need repair or replace my laptops is because of battery life and aging. If an aging battery will last twice as long on a laptop, that's amazing. It just doesn't seem important to them.
I used to hate bluetooth, but honestly, the technology is coming along--even the headsets are far more usable with longer battery lives than they used to have. I would also harp about the lack of physical keys, but I'm also a person who typically has a personalized external set of peripherals for different functions on my machines.
Love Trip is a really good album 0:53