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Larry is starting to get on my nerves wit his terrible takes on Blackbeard and his know-it-all attitude. Constantly telling everyone their wrong. I don't know how Seb deals with that on a daily basis TBH
Larry asked Seb to explain and he couldn’t. When Seb gave a good point Larry acknowledged every time but Seb didn’t have anything after he’s stronger and what would happen “if” he touches him
@@TrojanBOY90 nah Larry finna tell everyone what they’re really saying, or what their argument really is, like bro Seb just told you what it is don’t distill it into your world view so it fits
Love you boys but golly I’m gunna have to start crashing out for Seb, I swear Larry he’s he the one trolling most the time but Larry will legit derail an argument and say seb is arguing over the wrong stuff. It’s whack yo, past like three or four lives he just takes over the argument, even when he is verifiably wrong.
Larry argue at the moment A.K.A. the Current Shown feats Kata win over BB Haki armament - kata Conqueror Haki - kata Future sight -kata Speed - kata Reaction time- kata endurance - kata better Fighter - kata durability - debatable Devil Fruit - BB maybe later BB win when he show better feats but ATM kata win
@@daryllfavortio6944Katakuri is weak, he cant put a Luffy pre Udon physical training, pre ryuo and even before acoc for 12 hours of him pummeling him. Yet he can take down a yonko? He fell down to Luffy with just only a few hits, his dura, endurance and AP is all garbage. Bb already scarred a Shanks who already knew how to do Divine Departure that has acoc which the rest of his crew were unable to do and he’s still wary of Bb even with his current strength. Bb sucks him in, and with 2 hits Katakuri is out of the fight. One hit from BB already broke Law’s neck with no Gura, if he now amps his Gura + haki + his insane physical strength; Kat’s terrible durability is cooked and finished. He already easily endured Law’s awakening that has much higher AP then anything Kat has shown which had BM screaming yet BB just shrugged it off.
@@daryllfavortio6944literally just watched Larry argue in the most recent top 20 alive only that Ben Beckmann has better feats than Blackbeard, which might be true but with his own logic there are 0 on panel feats for Ben, apart from stopping Kizaru for like half a second, after which Kizaru did what he was doing before. It’s just not consistent.
1:17:51 Larry's argument is basically in Hajime no Ippo when Makunoichi fights someone the audience and other characters think "if one of those strong attacks land EVEN Once, its over" and the opponent smirks and thinks "but what if i dont get hit a single time?" Right before a single opening leads to them getting hit even once, and Sebastian's point is "here are several win conditions that Can put Katakuri down and Kat does not have as many as BB, Kat's biggest attack isn't enough to put him down instantly, and if he slips up gets grabbed even once that one of those fight ending moves are landing, that BB has Infinite gravity pull from the Yami and can pull him in range and put pressure on him the Entire fight and anything he throws out to keep distance can be countered by the gura,
But that’s head cannon.. the Gura hasn’t put anyone down and I don’t remember BB pulling conquerors. If Law can’t room people based on Haki how can BB pull them
@@TrojanBOY90 ?? The difference between using your powers to target the enemy versus targeting their environment, i understand you're saying that if BB tries to pull directly at him Katakuri could use his Haki to nullify that and not be pulled, but if instead he pulls at all of the wall and ground behind and around Katakuri it would be different, if Black beard holds his hand up and uses Infinite gravity and says everything fly in towards my hand as a means of redirecting attacks thrown out by Kat and increasing it to engulf more environment eventually Katakuri CAN get snagged into its pull, or he could jump in and risk contact. Another strong factor is that Haki can be affected by emotions if Blackbeard implies that Pudding is in some way in danger or a hostage it could affect his observation, which he needs to be calm to do effectively. None of this is me saying "this is why blackbeard DEFINITELY wins" but instead is a thing Blackbeard can do that doesnt target Katakuri directly and would put pressure on him through a prolonged fight, Seb is saying its not Zero percent chance and that he can see an outcome where blackbeard wins. If Katakuri tries keeping range Blackbeard can alternate between pulling at him directly and pulling at the environment around him. Using the gura he can break up rubble and debris to add more things to pull, and then Release with all the bits of environment can not only multi directional hit but it also resets the debris on the battle field he can pull back in. If Kat tries to keep it close combat to put pressure on BB, he has to keep aware of getting grabbed while also trying to intercept him touching the ground to spread his darkness out for another AoE attack. He can also quake immediately around him to shake up debris to lower visibility, just using things we've seen him use up to this point he has a lot to use
Kat fan here. I think BB wins hard or extreme diff. 1) Why was whitebeard able to merk Akainu even though Akainu is much faster & (to your point) has future sight? Also, all of the times WB hit Akainu were close range attacks. 2) Crazy that nobody made mention of the gura's AOE. Especially imbued with Haki it's able to damage a wide range, and also have a gravitational-like effect (as law was pinned down). In that fight BB was able to continuously send out that attack. He can do that, and use the yami power at the same time. 3) BB wouldn't need speed because shockwaves travel at the speed of sound. That + AOE , would be a counter to future sight. 4) In terms of AOE feats, BB has a wider range, eg. Marineford. Love the pod & happy new year!!
2. So, Kat is going to see that and sit and wait on it? 3. How do we know that affects Mochi? All in all I think yall are forgetting Styles make fights. It’s not always the stronger guy wins
@@TrojanBOY90 1) off guard on the first punch. Not the subsequent hits. 2) Law is faster than Kat as he can teleport, but he still got caught up in the quake and was pinned down. Technically Kat shouldn't be able to out speed the quakes. But speed is usually handled narratively than technical so who knows lol. Also where would Kat run to, since the AOE is so massive? (based on Marineford and the law fight). Plus the Yami can pull him in. 3) This one is debatable. Even if he doesn't receive damage he should be affected by the side effects of gura. (disorientation & gravitational effects) Also the darkness can be spread around BB, which can counter the Awakened Mochi abilities. I do think Kat can still reach him the with donuts n some other attacks. And he's an adaptable fighter so I Agree with your last point. That's why I said it would still be a difficult fight.
I can't believe there are dudes that believe kat can beat bb, like what are we talking about, it just proves that some people just don't know how to powerscale 😂😂
That highly touted Future sight of Katakuri had him going blow for blow with Oven in a canon cover story. People use future sight as a end all of fights
Shanks clearly was weary of Blackbeard to the point where he went out of his way to warn whitebeard. Will Larry say Katakuri’s observation is better than shanks 😂 Edit: And this is pre-Yami and pre-gura 😂
At this rate they’re going to be disappointed when Black beard is the final fight, is able to fight equally with Luffy, and Black beard is most likely going to kill Shanks
People really out here thinking Blackbeard lacks Conquerors Haki. Wild. He wants to rule the world via conquering it. He’s set up to be either the big bad or one of them. Going off of only whats shown so far vs what you narratively know with any degree of subtext is crazy
Having big ambitions alone doesnt make you a conquerer it’s if you have a the disposition and will of a king which Blackbeard just doesn’t have he’s the king of person to beg for his life. What conquerer does that? He prefers grimy underhanded tactics what true king does that? He’s a pirate to his core and I respect that but he doesn’t have it in him to be a conquerer
@@thebreadbaron5951 doesn’t mean he should be a conquerer if anything it makes him more interesting because he’s in talk for top tier status without being a conquerer
I get the argument but Black Beared can't sleep tho. If he can't sleep means you can't get tired. Both Buggy and Shanks state that in the past during Oden flashback in Wano.
Wait so Katakuri is Yonko level who can take down a Yonko but couldn’t effectively put down a Luffy pre Udon training, with no ryuo or aCoC for 12 hours? 😭
@@doublea4012 only Buggy is the gag yonko who only got Yonko cause marines "saw" people like Mihawk even submit to him whos yonko level himself, and BB is even stronger then yonko like BM and can fight relative with people on that tier.
@@myst2761Blackbeard can’t fight nobody yonko lvl without heavy plot he struggled w law… imagine big mom fighting law solo😭😭. Just admit Blackbeard gets carried by plot convenience
It’s alright seb, larry and Lionel will see once we see some on panel BB full fights. (Chapter 1059 page 16)- Rayleigh says “I couldn’t have possibly won in a head to head fight against black beard”. Rayleigh is definitely way faster than BB and has all 3 types of haki.
@ you’re really saying that Kat has better hax than the man that has 2 devil fruits. Like bruh the dark dark fruit alone got way more hax than the mochi mochi fruit🤦♂️
@@TrojanBOY90 all I know is that if Rayleigh says he can’t possibly beat black beard in a 1v1, and if shanks is traveling the ocean to warn white beard to keep ace away from Black beard. Also said he gave him his scar on his eye and he didn’t let his guard down. And shanks is trying his hardest to know where Blackbeard is and what he’s doing at all times. And y’all over here talking about Kat beating him easily. BLACK BEARD HAS BIGGER/STRONGER ENEMIES THAN KATAKURI.
Larry out here doing seb so wrong wit this whole kat fight using circular reasoning and gaslighting seb about his arguments im not even a BB fan but when seb has a solid argument Larry just says it's manipulative and switches tactics cause he can't answer im sorry but we all know current BB is over Kat like cmon now guys
A lot of these arguments I’m on Sebs side. A lot of Larry takes are purely assumptions and speculations, then when someone makes a valid point “No you’re wrong”. Like saying there is no possibility that WB was referring to Stabs, Garling, or someone other than Roger is insane to say the least. Sure upon the initial reading/viewing we were lead to believe it to be Roger we didn’t know they existed. Like Deb said he specifically said Shanks FACE and nothing more. Someone who knew Roger for longer than Shanks has been alive surely can think of plenty of other reminders of Roger than shanks’ face. But with so much foreshadowing and other things being misleading until we saw the real reason behind it, so say it’s 100% can’t be Gatling or it’s bad writing literally is pure opinion since it was never literally stated that he was referring to a scar Roger gave him (not saying it was garling 100%). This is coming from someone that at first wasn’t a fan of Seb (wasn’t a fan of the yelling and borderline screeching of his voice, not his fault obv) however he does consistently make valid points that you all disregard without actually trying to see what he’s saying
Like it made my head hurt he tryna say u not fast enough nor can u predict the future ur a turtle fighting a rabbit u will not be able to get any plan to work bc ima be way ahead at all times
If Blackbeard lost a fight to a COMMANDER, that would be insane. Yonko would mean nothing if your right hand men can just beat candidates for king of the pirates
I didn’t know Larry is writing one piece. What does he think Black Beard’s point in the narrative is? Does he think Shanks is going to kill black Beard?
Bro saying that Zoro beats out is even on the same level as black beard I just don’t see it I get Zoro is stronger then law and has better haki but that’s like saying Zoro can beat luffy it’s just not happening in my opinion
Legit question for y'all.. does Akainu control the igneous rocks created from his cooled lava? Like in the Kuzan fight, there would be an immense amount of cooled lava rock
Kata is taking this fight, I'd say high to extreme diff. I'm not sleeping on BB but he just ain't hanging with Kata. BB was literally trading blows and scared of law, while kata haki feats and devil fruit usage is at a higher level than Laws.
Law beats katakuri in a 1v1. Also even if not katakuri would also struggle against law in a fight. Kat from what we know also doesnt have ryou or acoc. So his haki besides obs haki is not even that impressive.
@Mrfish603 Kat's Armament was at a totally different level than what luffy's was at that time. Luffy had a base while Kat had something that wasn't ryou, It was specialized, but wasn't advanced. Law doesn't have ryou either and Kat just has better haki all around. Law does have a better fruit, which could be argued since kat has a special paramecia, but I personally feel as if kat would take this high diff to extreme diff against law. Since I think he fairs better against big mom solo than law does.
@@Ikuyo-Senpai i just think laws mobility, biq and room would allow him to tag katakuri atleast a couple of times. Laws attacks are definitley way more lethal than kats as he was able to damage physical Monsters like kaido and bm. Also they hurt you from the inside. Besides that i have seen law recover from thunder bagua and other attacks from bm and i do not think katakuri has a attack on that level. It would definitley be a high to extreme diff but i think law would win due to his versatility, hax, biq and leathality. I do think kat would do better against law than king.
@@Ikuyo-Senpailaw definitley has a better df. His df is 10 different abilities combined. His hax also allow him to use ryou like attacks as they hurt from inside.
The gura gura is the strongest paramecia stated by the author of the story okay lmao no one ever said it was the strongest fruit it is the strongest paramecia and you can’t say otherwise and the yami yami fruit can do more then just stop devil fruit powers lmao they don’t read
Isnt Luffy a slow starter for fighting? Doesnt luffy get hit first a lot? Like am I trippin. BB can't adapt as a fight goes on? What is happening hear?
Black beard the guys who’s shown he’s not the best fighter vs Kat the better fighter seb picks black beard bout black beard gon lift his hands up he can make more mochi arms then two and is a conq
Blackbeard is wiping Kat. He has obviously fought Shanks and tied at the very least and Kat is no way possibly even going toe to toe with Shanks. Blackbeard gets a lot of slack because of the off panel stuff. But Oda has built him to be a problem! We will see though!!
Blackbeard doesn’t beat any of the former Yonko except Whitebeard cause of his health. In addition there’s no way Katakuri loses to Queen 😂😂😂😂. As for the commanders who could make Akainu life hard on the battlefield I would say SABO , Beckman and King
I feel so bad for Seb on these BB debates. Larry is actually biased cause he doesn’t like BB as a character. What Yonko besides Buggy(gag) is losing to a first commander 😂 bro watching 2 Piece
Black beard the guy who just uses devil fruits Wildly he can turn his body into mochi 😂out-speed better haki future sight black beard don’t hit hard couldn’t push through law and to add to that if he spams future sight and is faster than u he can counter his counter
You can say that about a lot of fights( luffy vs kaido, zoro vs king, luffy vs doflamingo, law and kid vs bm). Sebs point was that you have to use a little bit of narrative because of bb future role as one of the final villains. The same way you have to use narrative to scale dragon, sabo, mihawk,imu etc. In terms of the storyline katakuri being to defeat luffys main rival for pirate king makes no sense.
@@Mrfish603I hear you, I don’t think there is a wrong answer but from what we seen I think Kat wins, would be a dope fight to see fleshed out but no shot it ever happens lol which is why I wasn’t including plot. Hyped to see bb at EOS so we can properly scale dude
Seb no bb got good haki he battled young shank and he was a prodigy so at the least he has basic all 3 haki at a good level and without his df he was commander level with his physical strength and haki and obs is good he sense luffy haki when he didn’t even know haki and his arm haki looking good to he got good haki strong enough to not be teleported and he literally has good strength feet and endurance and durability feet and we don’t even know about his race and what he did against shank bb is strong .he beats big mom.he just overconfident susceptible to being caught off guard do was fighting equally with old sengoku and he no diff law like shanks did to kid with one yami yami attack he was done if bb wanted to come with his yami that a nkinda of like shanks using his divine departure why not use arm shanks knew arm wasn’t going to be enough to one shot kid
Yoo this whole bb argument is dumb. The gura can flip the stage like we saw in marineford and this whole speed thing is dumb! We seen slow characters hit fast characters lmao. Also bb can attack from far! The winner island is not long distance? If kata is that strong then wtf happen when they stole pudding! Ya all read the same cover story. And again katakuri can’t beat big mom.
There is nothing blackbeard can do to katakuri. We saw with ace that you can’t have your power absorbed unless he physically touches you. Even if he managed to pull katakuri in, he can attack him mid pull and stop him. Ace did the same thing and didn’t lose his power because he stopped him before he got touched. And since katakuri has great armament and conquerors haki you can easily argue that the yami can’t negate his powers because he can just coat himself in haki. Just like how garp is able to just break out of kuzan’s ice by flexing his haki. Blackbeard would get speed blitzed so bad he wouldn’t even be able to do anything. Even if katakuri lets him throw attacks and try to use the yami, katakuri shuts him down quite easily. Gear 4 bound man bodies black beard pretty easily, and katakuri was bodying bound man😂stop the foolishness
@ yeah i could go into more detail, it’s way more reasons why blackbeard loses😂i just wanted to keep it brief. katakuri pretty much hard counters everything blackbeard can do right now
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 idk about becoming whitebeard😂but i do think kat is gonna do a solo mission to save pudding and meet up with big mom on elbaf so pudding can give big mom her memories back
Again ya defending Seb when that argument was in poor faith bc he loves black beard he was asked to paint a scenario and couldn’t talm multiple quakes 😂😂and his supporters in here losing it
But Larry also is the number 1 Blackbeard hater so either side of the argument could never be in good faith and Larry constantly gaslights and belittles seb to the point where he gets flustered and can't articulate how he wants to, now I would never say either is right 100% of the time and I'm actually a Larry fan over seb by far but this whole argument was just handled horribly on both sides
@ I think one side argued based on what’s given while the Blackbeard fan aka Seb was tryna do the usual there’s a chance Blackbeard can do this or that when he hasn’t ever showed he’s a real capable in the pocket fighter he schemes to assume he would be able to take down Kat who is by far way faster and a conqueror is ridiculous we saw the man would’ve died if not for his crew against law or are we all reading different stories
@m141cage2 are you 12 years old. How many years has it been since katakuri were in a fight. We are in elbaf now. Katakuri is irrelevant. It's called a power creep. Blackbeard is stronger than most other characters that have been left behind. Stop reading fanfiction. Katakuri was nothing more than a plot device to show off what future sight could actually do, so the main character could adapt and grow the skill. That's all.
At this point yall BB fans are worst than Mihawk fans. Just agree that BB hasn’t done anything in the show verse that shows he could beat Kat. Ofcourse end of story he will be able to but right now…. Hell no
Black beard the guy who just uses devil fruits Wildly he can turn his body into mochi 😂out-speed better haki future sight black beard don’t hit hard couldn’t push through law and to add to that if he spams future sight and is faster than u he can counter his counter
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They spent 45 minutes talking about the dumbest thing 🤣🤣 gotta love it here
Larry is starting to get on my nerves wit his terrible takes on Blackbeard and his know-it-all attitude. Constantly telling everyone their wrong. I don't know how Seb deals with that on a daily basis TBH
Larry asked Seb to explain and he couldn’t. When Seb gave a good point Larry acknowledged every time but Seb didn’t have anything after he’s stronger and what would happen “if” he touches him
@@TrojanBOY90 nah Larry finna tell everyone what they’re really saying, or what their argument really is, like bro Seb just told you what it is don’t distill it into your world view so it fits
Seb got cooked 😹 his whole argument was "but bb is a main character 😖" 🤣🤣🤣
Love you boys but golly I’m gunna have to start crashing out for Seb, I swear Larry he’s he the one trolling most the time but Larry will legit derail an argument and say seb is arguing over the wrong stuff. It’s whack yo, past like three or four lives he just takes over the argument, even when he is verifiably wrong.
No bra I just seen it too Larry be wrong and feel likes he right all the time
Larry argue at the moment A.K.A. the Current Shown feats Kata win over BB
Haki armament - kata
Conqueror Haki - kata
Future sight -kata
Speed - kata
Reaction time- kata
endurance - kata
better Fighter - kata
durability - debatable
Devil Fruit - BB
maybe later BB win when he show better feats but ATM kata win
@@daryllfavortio6944Katakuri is weak, he cant put a Luffy pre Udon physical training, pre ryuo and even before acoc for 12 hours of him pummeling him. Yet he can take down a yonko? He fell down to Luffy with just only a few hits, his dura, endurance and AP is all garbage. Bb already scarred a Shanks who already knew how to do Divine Departure that has acoc which the rest of his crew were unable to do and he’s still wary of Bb even with his current strength. Bb sucks him in, and with 2 hits Katakuri is out of the fight. One hit from BB already broke Law’s neck with no Gura, if he now amps his Gura + haki + his insane physical strength; Kat’s terrible durability is cooked and finished. He already easily endured Law’s awakening that has much higher AP then anything Kat has shown which had BM screaming yet BB just shrugged it off.
@@daryllfavortio6944literally just watched Larry argue in the most recent top 20 alive only that Ben Beckmann has better feats than Blackbeard, which might be true but with his own logic there are 0 on panel feats for Ben, apart from stopping Kizaru for like half a second, after which Kizaru did what he was doing before. It’s just not consistent.
@@Imdreadheadluffy get off yo knees his shiny head must be hypnotizing u fam
1:17:51 Larry's argument is basically in Hajime no Ippo when Makunoichi fights someone the audience and other characters think "if one of those strong attacks land EVEN Once, its over" and the opponent smirks and thinks "but what if i dont get hit a single time?" Right before a single opening leads to them getting hit even once, and Sebastian's point is "here are several win conditions that Can put Katakuri down and Kat does not have as many as BB, Kat's biggest attack isn't enough to put him down instantly, and if he slips up gets grabbed even once that one of those fight ending moves are landing, that BB has Infinite gravity pull from the Yami and can pull him in range and put pressure on him the Entire fight and anything he throws out to keep distance can be countered by the gura,
But that’s head cannon.. the Gura hasn’t put anyone down and I don’t remember BB pulling conquerors. If Law can’t room people based on Haki how can BB pull them
@@TrojanBOY90 ?? The difference between using your powers to target the enemy versus targeting their environment, i understand you're saying that if BB tries to pull directly at him Katakuri could use his Haki to nullify that and not be pulled, but if instead he pulls at all of the wall and ground behind and around Katakuri it would be different, if Black beard holds his hand up and uses Infinite gravity and says everything fly in towards my hand as a means of redirecting attacks thrown out by Kat and increasing it to engulf more environment eventually Katakuri CAN get snagged into its pull, or he could jump in and risk contact. Another strong factor is that Haki can be affected by emotions if Blackbeard implies that Pudding is in some way in danger or a hostage it could affect his observation, which he needs to be calm to do effectively. None of this is me saying "this is why blackbeard DEFINITELY wins" but instead is a thing Blackbeard can do that doesnt target Katakuri directly and would put pressure on him through a prolonged fight, Seb is saying its not Zero percent chance and that he can see an outcome where blackbeard wins. If Katakuri tries keeping range Blackbeard can alternate between pulling at him directly and pulling at the environment around him. Using the gura he can break up rubble and debris to add more things to pull, and then Release with all the bits of environment can not only multi directional hit but it also resets the debris on the battle field he can pull back in. If Kat tries to keep it close combat to put pressure on BB, he has to keep aware of getting grabbed while also trying to intercept him touching the ground to spread his darkness out for another AoE attack. He can also quake immediately around him to shake up debris to lower visibility, just using things we've seen him use up to this point he has a lot to use
@@trumanspider4246kat negs
Kat fan here. I think BB wins hard or extreme diff.
1) Why was whitebeard able to merk Akainu even though Akainu is much faster & (to your point) has future sight? Also, all of the times WB hit Akainu were close range attacks.
2) Crazy that nobody made mention of the gura's AOE. Especially imbued with Haki it's able to damage a wide range, and also have a gravitational-like effect (as law was pinned down). In that fight BB was able to continuously send out that attack. He can do that, and use the yami power at the same time.
3) BB wouldn't need speed because shockwaves travel at the speed of sound. That + AOE , would be a counter to future sight.
4) In terms of AOE feats, BB has a wider range, eg. Marineford.
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1. He caught him off guard; BB and Kat is a straight 1v1 not someone sneaking someone from behind to close the distance
2. So, Kat is going to see that and sit and wait on it?
3. How do we know that affects Mochi?
All in all I think yall are forgetting Styles make fights. It’s not always the stronger guy wins
@@TrojanBOY90
1) off guard on the first punch. Not the subsequent hits.
2) Law is faster than Kat as he can teleport, but he still got caught up in the quake and was pinned down. Technically Kat shouldn't be able to out speed the quakes. But speed is usually handled narratively than technical so who knows lol. Also where would Kat run to, since the AOE is so massive? (based on Marineford and the law fight). Plus the Yami can pull him in.
3) This one is debatable. Even if he doesn't receive damage he should be affected by the side effects of gura. (disorientation & gravitational effects)
Also the darkness can be spread around BB, which can counter the Awakened Mochi abilities.
I do think Kat can still reach him the with donuts n some other attacks. And he's an adaptable fighter so I Agree with your last point. That's why I said it would still be a difficult fight.
I can't believe there are dudes that believe kat can beat bb, like what are we talking about, it just proves that some people just don't know how to powerscale 😂😂
I understand the points Larry and Lionel are making but i just can't accept a yonko 1st commander beating an actual yonko. That just makes no sense.
You could tell Larry that Buggy beats bb and he would say yes
what does bb have that can beat kat ? he can’t even beat law 1v1
Law vs BB wasn’t a 1v1 😂😂 both crews was literally battling.. plus BB wasn’t trying kill law cause he wanted his df. Context matters
BB hasn’t fought anyone 1v1 in the show. But to these people now he can speed rush a conqueror
That highly touted Future sight of Katakuri had him going blow for blow with Oven in a canon cover story. People use future sight as a end all of fights
Terrible example this story goofy asf
@ how if it happens doesn't it happen? Katakuri future sight didn't help him with the pudding situation at all.
@ wasn’t used then so
@@m141cage2 isn't he technically using it all the time
@@mgoforthswagg no they use it in combat or if they get the feeling something amiss
Proud to say that my question had them boys arguing for like 45 minutes lmao
Yeah that's a dub :D
@@theoutcastedgamer7264 good job. i am glad Seb calmly cooked them 2v1 they got solid push back and refused to see that they were wrong.
Kat neg diffs trashbeard
Get trashbeard past Wepo
Shanks clearly was weary of Blackbeard to the point where he went out of his way to warn whitebeard. Will Larry say Katakuri’s observation is better than shanks 😂
Edit: And this is pre-Yami and pre-gura 😂
Larry tripping 😂
At this rate they’re going to be disappointed when Black beard is the final fight, is able to fight equally with Luffy, and Black beard is most likely going to kill Shanks
No they won’t. All I see them saying is BB has shown nothing that beats Kat now. They even say later they expect him to be stronger (same as Dragon)
@@TrojanBOY90maybe reread blackbeards ability sheet
"a world in which blackbeard can take big mom" seb is dr strange seeing that 1 out of 14million chance lmao
People really out here thinking Blackbeard lacks Conquerors Haki. Wild. He wants to rule the world via conquering it. He’s set up to be either the big bad or one of them. Going off of only whats shown so far vs what you narratively know with any degree of subtext is crazy
Having big ambitions alone doesnt make you a conquerer it’s if you have a the disposition and will of a king which Blackbeard just doesn’t have he’s the king of person to beg for his life. What conquerer does that? He prefers grimy underhanded tactics what true king does that? He’s a pirate to his core and I respect that but he doesn’t have it in him to be a conquerer
I think he’s in the story because he’s just such a pirate that’s why oda put him in the story to show that there are Typical pirates in the show
@@Smitingfanatic …. Or he’s been setup since 20+ years ago to be the endgame villain lol???
@@thebreadbaron5951 doesn’t mean he should be a conquerer if anything it makes him more interesting because he’s in talk for top tier status without being a conquerer
@@Smitingfanatic yeah we’ll see lol I think it’s crazy to think he’s not one but either way
I get the argument but Black Beared can't sleep tho. If he can't sleep means you can't get tired. Both Buggy and Shanks state that in the past during Oden flashback in Wano.
We've seen him tired out and sweating from previous fights tho like w ace and law
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Bb scared shanks canonically.
Sanjis “bingo” with the cigarette pose has WAYYYY too much aura🔥
Haki transcends all seb said the weak before “Black beard enters “ nah bro he got the quake quake
Larry completely saved that 2nd caller lmaooo. Cause that’s not what bro was saying at all lmao. That man really saved bra theory
Sebastian didn't even use his best argument regarding BB. Shanks has the best future sight in the show, but BB scarred him
1:46:00 Mans has no argument. All facts provided. He was tight
Wait so Katakuri is Yonko level who can take down a Yonko but couldn’t effectively put down a Luffy pre Udon training, with no ryuo or aCoC for 12 hours? 😭
@@myst2761 yonko is a title not a power level, because buggy and blackbeard (especially buggy) are no where near every other yonko introduced
@@doublea4012 only Buggy is the gag yonko who only got Yonko cause marines "saw" people like Mihawk even submit to him whos yonko level himself, and BB is even stronger then yonko like BM and can fight relative with people on that tier.
@@myst2761Blackbeard can’t fight nobody yonko lvl without heavy plot he struggled w law… imagine big mom fighting law solo😭😭. Just admit Blackbeard gets carried by plot convenience
@@myst2761be real PLOT WON THAT FIGHT NOT LUFFY
I lost all fire in that argument listening to Lionel trynna speak. Jesus dude enunciate 😂😂😂
I need to see yall argue over Lucci vs Blackbeard and Lucci vs Kat 😂😂
It’s alright seb, larry and Lionel will see once we see some on panel BB full fights. (Chapter 1059 page 16)- Rayleigh says “I couldn’t have possibly won in a head to head fight against black beard”. Rayleigh is definitely way faster than BB and has all 3 types of haki.
But doesn’t have the hax that the Mochi Mochi gives Kat to change his shape and dodge
@ you’re really saying that Kat has better hax than the man that has 2 devil fruits. Like bruh the dark dark fruit alone got way more hax than the mochi mochi fruit🤦♂️
@@TrojanBOY90 all I know is that if Rayleigh says he can’t possibly beat black beard in a 1v1, and if shanks is traveling the ocean to warn white beard to keep ace away from Black beard. Also said he gave him his scar on his eye and he didn’t let his guard down. And shanks is trying his hardest to know where Blackbeard is and what he’s doing at all times. And y’all over here talking about Kat beating him easily. BLACK BEARD HAS BIGGER/STRONGER ENEMIES THAN KATAKURI.
Happy new years kizaru 🎉 your goated
The disappointment in the tone when he said No Dawg 🤣
Larry out here doing seb so wrong wit this whole kat fight using circular reasoning and gaslighting seb about his arguments im not even a BB fan but when seb has a solid argument Larry just says it's manipulative and switches tactics cause he can't answer im sorry but we all know current BB is over Kat like cmon now guys
He’s stronger but that doesn’t mean he beats him in a 1v1
Imagine sabo was evil the whole time and still connected to high society and the CD’s and went all this way to take down Luffy n them 😭
Usopp stocks up this coming year😅
Said the same about franky
Larry always cooking seb wit the facts!
Cap
Couldn't catch the Live, tho I always gotta drop in and show the Love
Seb cooked yall
he thinks blackbeard beats big mom . lol he’s not cooking nothing
@@ioffendedyoudidnti4784big meme got cooked by law and kidd lol
@@KCtheMCand Blackbeard had some of his crew and jumped law and couldn’t finish him ?
@@MugiwaraSosa he destroyed everything else about law lol him and bepo getting away was the least law could do
@@MugiwaraSosa law has the trickiest devil fruit in the whole story. Fuji and flamingo together couldn't capture law.
opening 18 hard knock days is the best opening🖤🖤
Larry is just literally the Craig David cover Photo for his 'Born to do it Album' 😂#legends #craiglarrydavid
All honesty Marco still got into wano so that's a feat and he did his job and went home no issue
A lot of these arguments I’m on Sebs side. A lot of Larry takes are purely assumptions and speculations, then when someone makes a valid point “No you’re wrong”. Like saying there is no possibility that WB was referring to Stabs, Garling, or someone other than Roger is insane to say the least. Sure upon the initial reading/viewing we were lead to believe it to be Roger we didn’t know they existed. Like Deb said he specifically said Shanks FACE and nothing more. Someone who knew Roger for longer than Shanks has been alive surely can think of plenty of other reminders of Roger than shanks’ face. But with so much foreshadowing and other things being misleading until we saw the real reason behind it, so say it’s 100% can’t be Gatling or it’s bad writing literally is pure opinion since it was never literally stated that he was referring to a scar Roger gave him (not saying it was garling 100%). This is coming from someone that at first wasn’t a fan of Seb (wasn’t a fan of the yelling and borderline screeching of his voice, not his fault obv) however he does consistently make valid points that you all disregard without actually trying to see what he’s saying
Stop Seb said bb could beat big mom and that’s just not true
Like it made my head hurt he tryna say u not fast enough nor can u predict the future ur a turtle fighting a rabbit u will not be able to get any plan to work bc ima be way ahead at all times
Black beard is not a fight tacticion
If Blackbeard lost a fight to a COMMANDER, that would be insane. Yonko would mean nothing if your right hand men can just beat candidates for king of the pirates
Katakuri got power cliffed. Base Luffy rn would probably low diff Kat, there is no world where Katakuri is beating BB xD
I didn’t know Larry is writing one piece. What does he think Black Beard’s point in the narrative is? Does he think Shanks is going to kill black Beard?
Larry , berserk is still ongoing and has bad a couple new chapters already
Bro saying that Zoro beats out is even on the same level as black beard I just don’t see it I get Zoro is stronger then law and has better haki but that’s like saying Zoro can beat luffy it’s just not happening in my opinion
Legit question for y'all.. does Akainu control the igneous rocks created from his cooled lava? Like in the Kuzan fight, there would be an immense amount of cooled lava rock
Do the kuzan penguin plunge
The YAMI YAMI IS USEFUL FOR MORE THEN JUST TAKING AWAY DEVIO FRUIT ABILITIES THE GURA GURA IS THE STRONGEST PARAMECIA FRUIT STATED HY ODA
Saying Katakuri beats Blackbeard is *Peak* stupidity lmao
Blackbeard packs kat.
Any water will effect devil fruit users stated by oda so it’s not just sea water lmao
Kata is taking this fight, I'd say high to extreme diff. I'm not sleeping on BB but he just ain't hanging with Kata. BB was literally trading blows and scared of law, while kata haki feats and devil fruit usage is at a higher level than Laws.
Law beats katakuri in a 1v1. Also even if not katakuri would also struggle against law in a fight. Kat from what we know also doesnt have ryou or acoc. So his haki besides obs haki is not even that impressive.
@Mrfish603 Kat's Armament was at a totally different level than what luffy's was at that time. Luffy had a base while Kat had something that wasn't ryou, It was specialized, but wasn't advanced. Law doesn't have ryou either and Kat just has better haki all around. Law does have a better fruit, which could be argued since kat has a special paramecia, but I personally feel as if kat would take this high diff to extreme diff against law. Since I think he fairs better against big mom solo than law does.
@@Ikuyo-Senpai i just think laws mobility, biq and room would allow him to tag katakuri atleast a couple of times. Laws attacks are definitley way more lethal than kats as he was able to damage physical Monsters like kaido and bm. Also they hurt you from the inside. Besides that i have seen law recover from thunder bagua and other attacks from bm and i do not think katakuri has a attack on that level. It would definitley be a high to extreme diff but i think law would win due to his versatility, hax, biq and leathality. I do think kat would do better against law than king.
@@Ikuyo-Senpailaw definitley has a better df. His df is 10 different abilities combined. His hax also allow him to use ryou like attacks as they hurt from inside.
@@Ikuyo-SenpaiI do not think that kats haki is strong enough to negate all of laws hax. He does not have kaido or bm level haki.
The gura gura is the strongest paramecia stated by the author of the story okay lmao no one ever said it was the strongest fruit it is the strongest paramecia and you can’t say otherwise and the yami yami fruit can do more then just stop devil fruit powers lmao they don’t read
The author also said Haki conquers all.
@@TrojanBOY90top tier haki can overpower devilfruits
Nah man i normally dont like blacbeard that much but seb persents his arguments so bad i almost start rooting for blacbeard
Isnt Luffy a slow starter for fighting? Doesnt luffy get hit first a lot? Like am I trippin. BB can't adapt as a fight goes on? What is happening hear?
Black beard the guys who’s shown he’s not the best fighter vs Kat the better fighter seb picks black beard bout black beard gon lift his hands up he can make more mochi arms then two and is a conq
Blackbeard is wiping Kat. He has obviously fought Shanks and tied at the very least and Kat is no way possibly even going toe to toe with Shanks. Blackbeard gets a lot of slack because of the off panel stuff. But Oda has built him to be a problem! We will see though!!
Sebby bring back the DDTs pls
Wait is queen a first or second commander, why are people saying queen is first commander
Queen is overhyped he is a second commander
But wanked to yc1 lvl
He is a not even a strong second commander
Seb , just because of plot Blackbeard wins cause he has the Yami Yami otherwise I got Katakuri crushing him High Diff
Loki the lil cmans dad??!
Blackbeard doesn’t beat any of the former Yonko except Whitebeard cause of his health. In addition there’s no way Katakuri loses to Queen 😂😂😂😂. As for the commanders who could make Akainu life hard on the battlefield I would say SABO , Beckman and King
if big mom had no kids shed just be big woman
I feel so bad for Seb on these BB debates. Larry is actually biased cause he doesn’t like BB as a character. What Yonko besides Buggy(gag) is losing to a first commander 😂 bro watching 2 Piece
Black beard the guy who just uses devil fruits Wildly he can turn his body into mochi 😂out-speed better haki future sight black beard don’t hit hard couldn’t push through law and to add to that if he spams future sight and is faster than u he can counter his counter
all the sebs fans sad
What is larry tax?
I usually side with seb but ppl are crazy for thinking it’s not close, if plot isn’t involved I think Kat wins mid diff (from what we seen so far)
You can say that about a lot of fights( luffy vs kaido, zoro vs king, luffy vs doflamingo, law and kid vs bm). Sebs point was that you have to use a little bit of narrative because of bb future role as one of the final villains. The same way you have to use narrative to scale dragon, sabo, mihawk,imu etc. In terms of the storyline katakuri being to defeat luffys main rival for pirate king makes no sense.
@@Mrfish603I hear you, I don’t think there is a wrong answer but from what we seen I think Kat wins, would be a dope fight to see fleshed out but no shot it ever happens lol which is why I wasn’t including plot. Hyped to see bb at EOS so we can properly scale dude
@@MadMonkSali think we could see katakuri fight alongside luffy against the bb pirates because of Pudding. It definitley is high diff either way .
1:45:44😂😂😂😂
Seb talking about black beards hax, this dude got scared from super minx bepo. He is a coward that loses to chopper one on one.
Exactlty
Imagine kaido shanks bigmom with their crews
Vs
Bepo
😂😂😂😂
He ain't a yonko
He just a yonko in name
Seb no bb got good haki he battled young shank and he was a prodigy so at the least he has basic all 3 haki at a good level and without his df he was commander level with his physical strength and haki and obs is good he sense luffy haki when he didn’t even know haki and his arm haki looking good to he got good haki strong enough to not be teleported and he literally has good strength feet and endurance and durability feet and we don’t even know about his race and what he did against shank bb is strong .he beats big mom.he just overconfident susceptible to being caught off guard do was fighting equally with old sengoku and he no diff law like shanks did to kid with one yami yami attack he was done if bb wanted to come with his yami that a nkinda of like shanks using his divine departure why not use arm shanks knew arm wasn’t going to be enough to one shot kid
Some of the stuff yall claim BB can do with the Gura Gura Whitebeard couldn’t do
Its actually crazy how these Trashbeard wankers give trashbeard so much
This is really that spongebob meme of patrick and evil man ray
Seb mostly agrees with the stats with the better overall
But days no trashbeard wins
Katakuri is not that guy
Yoo this whole bb argument is dumb. The gura can flip the stage like we saw in marineford and this whole speed thing is dumb! We seen slow characters hit fast characters lmao. Also bb can attack from far! The winner island is not long distance? If kata is that strong then wtf happen when they stole pudding! Ya all read the same cover story. And again katakuri can’t beat big mom.
Did you read the cover story?
Cracker went and pudding was already captured
The trashbeard pirates suck and can't fight head on
Who tf is katatiri lmao
the hate towards bb is wild lol kat is getting whooped all day
Tf? Another break week?
There is nothing blackbeard can do to katakuri. We saw with ace that you can’t have your power absorbed unless he physically touches you. Even if he managed to pull katakuri in, he can attack him mid pull and stop him. Ace did the same thing and didn’t lose his power because he stopped him before he got touched. And since katakuri has great armament and conquerors haki you can easily argue that the yami can’t negate his powers because he can just coat himself in haki. Just like how garp is able to just break out of kuzan’s ice by flexing his haki. Blackbeard would get speed blitzed so bad he wouldn’t even be able to do anything. Even if katakuri lets him throw attacks and try to use the yami, katakuri shuts him down quite easily. Gear 4 bound man bodies black beard pretty easily, and katakuri was bodying bound man😂stop the foolishness
Bro you did not even go into specifics
And you right kat washes Trashbeard
@ yeah i could go into more detail, it’s way more reasons why blackbeard loses😂i just wanted to keep it brief. katakuri pretty much hard counters everything blackbeard can do right now
@@acedaboss3785 yes its not close kat stomps i can't wait till katakuri saves pudding and becomes the next whitebeard
@@ItachiUchiha_1724 idk about becoming whitebeard😂but i do think kat is gonna do a solo mission to save pudding and meet up with big mom on elbaf so pudding can give big mom her memories back
Nah Larry takes getting unbearable 1:27:07
2 Katakuri’s arent even beating Blackbeard Lol
Yep KAT BEATS BB👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Again ya defending Seb when that argument was in poor faith bc he loves black beard he was asked to paint a scenario and couldn’t talm multiple quakes 😂😂and his supporters in here losing it
But Larry also is the number 1 Blackbeard hater so either side of the argument could never be in good faith and Larry constantly gaslights and belittles seb to the point where he gets flustered and can't articulate how he wants to, now I would never say either is right 100% of the time and I'm actually a Larry fan over seb by far but this whole argument was just handled horribly on both sides
@ I think one side argued based on what’s given while the Blackbeard fan aka Seb was tryna do the usual there’s a chance Blackbeard can do this or that when he hasn’t ever showed he’s a real capable in the pocket fighter he schemes to assume he would be able to take down Kat who is by far way faster and a conqueror is ridiculous we saw the man would’ve died if not for his crew against law or are we all reading different stories
@m141cage2 are you 12 years old. How many years has it been since katakuri were in a fight.
We are in elbaf now. Katakuri is irrelevant. It's called a power creep. Blackbeard is stronger than most other characters that have been left behind. Stop reading fanfiction.
Katakuri was nothing more than a plot device to show off what future sight could actually do, so the main character could adapt and grow the skill. That's all.
@ stupid response Ik ur not the brightest
@ yea let’s pretend growth don’t exist
Haki is literally willpower the entire strawhat crew not having haki already is stupid tbh
At this point yall BB fans are worst than Mihawk fans. Just agree that BB hasn’t done anything in the show verse that shows he could beat Kat. Ofcourse end of story he will be able to but right now…. Hell no
I dont think at the end of story he could fr
Black beard the guy who just uses devil fruits Wildly he can turn his body into mochi 😂out-speed better haki future sight black beard don’t hit hard couldn’t push through law and to add to that if he spams future sight and is faster than u he can counter his counter