I can't agree, but this is truly a subjective thing. I prefer Bonham's combo of raw power and technical excellence that's at another level. But listen to Won't Get Fooled Again for example, and you can say probably say the same thing. Vive la difference!!!
@@braindamage70 It was actually my big brother got me into Led Zep... but Bonzo cemented a life-long dedication. Now, both my kids claim "Whole Lotta Love" as their all-time favorite song.
Played drums for 45 years and Keith was by far the hardest drummer to copy.Seen him live twice and his approach was both unorthodox sloppy and also brilliant at the same time.Some gigs he never even used a hi hat.A true maniac genius.
Yes ! Same here.. been drumming for many decades.. I would rate myself much above average.. . and here is sloppy Keith..... always throwing me off with his strange fills in the most odd places. It was calculated for him to some degree.. but hardly anybody I've seen that can truly get it..
Moon was theatrical and captivating to watch, certainly more Krupa than Rich. Moon had an inimitable style, ferocious power, passion and flair. Moon was unique. It is impossible to explain his drumming, his approach was an enigma, the result, a rock drummer that had, and will never have any equal. Moon is my favourite by a great distance.
I enjoyed Keith's Drumming more. It was more musical. I also enjoyed watching his antics on and off stage more. But I also LOVED Bonham's style of drumming. I think there is room for both,.... but Keith was an all original.
I've been playing for 44 yrs myself I've got mad respect for both of them, they both are legends, I have played both styles, I prefer JB it's just I like that style and swagger. 💯👍 Both of them R.I.P.🙏
Keith Moon of the 2 was definitely outside the box and had a completely different style like no other. Keith Moons style can’t be repeated or copied, as where John Bonham’s style is more easily repeatable and we see that with many famous drummers like Dave Grohl for example. Yes, John Bonham may have been more “skilled”, sounded better at soloing, more refined, but he was also more linear than the 2 and that made his style very easy to repeat. Still haven’t found anyone who can be compared to the great Keith Moon. Both fantastic drummers, they are both important for rock music.
I think that if you say Bonham can be copied or imitated you probably haven't heard Bonhan with proper attention. Many have tried to imitate him... None have succeeded.
@@CarlosCostaX Keith Moon is super flash. So he seems more complex at first sight. John, on face vaule seems more straight forward and standard. But once you break down his playing playing.....it seems almost beyond comprehension! How many drummer's try and cover Rock and Roll for the first time thinking "this is a easy straight forward rock song", put blood, sweat and tears into and decide a work around is their only option.
2 great rock drummers. Of the 2, Moon is my favorite. Then you also have Ginger Baker, Carl Palmer, Neil Peart, and Danny Carey. Best drummers are jazz drummers, though. Billy Cobham, Joe Morrello, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, etc.
I give the nod to Keith Moon. But it's close. I have a friend who is a very accomplished session musician drummer nationally who says Keith wasn't all that. I disagree, because my ears tell me that he was arguably the best drummer that ever lived.
Keith moon is the better drummer of the 2 for me, moon played so much faster than Bonham and that's the point for me anyway that makes Keith the better drummer, slow and precise doesn't cut it for my taste
@@mthomas1973 quite the contrary, i love zeppelin Jimmy Page is was and will always be the greatest guitarist and also a great producer and composer as well, Robert Plant is one of the best singers in rock history, I just prefer Keith moon as a drummer, John Bonham is my 2nd best drummer he's just not my favorite and my favorite rhythm section of any band is john entwhistle and Keith moon, watch live at leeds young man blues it is the reason I think Keith Moon is the best his hand speed is something to be seen to believe......so yes I am a huge zeppelin fan for the last 40 years ever since I was a teenager,,,,
Two monsters… But I pick Keith Moon! He started something new with the double bass massive floors and crashes no Hi-Hat WTF he was doing in the 60’s… But beside impressing me live he was just like improvising but wait… Not improvised! He calculates mostly of his fills and he certainly make it clear by letting The Who without nobody else to do his job. I love THE WHO and I have to admit that 80% of their creativity died with him! I miss him so much and I miss Bonzo too! 😢 unfortunately I’m only 40. Didn’t have the opportunity to watch any of them live…
They were both great and different from each other and were critical to defining the groups they were in. Bonham wouldn't have worked well in the Who and Moon wouldn't have been right with Zeppelin. As Moon once said, he was the best Keith Moon style drummer in the world.
I don't like to make comparisons, I don't think it's fair because both are geniuses. But I'll be honest, Bonham awakens a primal instinct, a feeling that is dormant in the depths of the soul, something unique, powerful, inexplicable. Love Bonzo ❤
As Chris Huston (recording and sound engineer) put it , Moon was a performer 1st, drummer 2nd. Bonham was a drummer 1st, performer 2nd - more measured and precise.
come on now The Who needed Moon and Led Zeppelin needed Bonham ! John's son Jason plays like John and Many young drummers can play the drums like John did note for note ... but no one has been able to play the drums exactly like Moon did !
If there were recordings of them playing each other's music, then we'd have something to go on. I'd love to see how Moon tackles 'In my time of dying'.
I gave this a watch and read the comments as I thought "Hey, it's Moon vs Bonham, *two* competitors in this race so at least the geeks can't shoehorn Peart in here..." I was wrong.....
The Who Live At Leeds Led Zeppelin Live At The MSG Two of the greatest live albums in history and two of the best showcases of drumming in history. Id say Keith Moon since he embodies true rock and roll in his drumming, which is pure excitment from start to finish. Those who argue that Keiths style was exclusivly that though, dont seem to know that Keith Moon knew how to create a strong backbeat or use the "less is more" technique like Bonham. He used it on a few live and studio records, its just that it was never as needed/demanded on Who records than on Zeppein ones. Example - My Wife, The Song Is Over, Bell Boy, Doctor Jimmy Bonham though is easily second though. Both Keith and John are miles better than Bill Ward, Baker, Niel Peart etc. The best way to put it, was that Keith Moon was like John Bonham, if every style that John knew was combined into one. Crazy and Some how kept time greatly.
I never considered Bonham to be an exceptional drummer. Many drummers, including an 8-year-old female drummer, can mimic him perfectly. Moon's drumming is far harder to replicate. Far harder to capture his energy. I saw Keith play four times with the Who. Mesmerizing. Unconventional. Unpredictable. Fast, powerful, loud, tight, loose, spontaneous, riveting, exciting. Moon in his prime was rock drumming. There was none better.
Safe to say, if drums ever become sentient beings, they will look at the old videos of Bonham & Moon the same way humans look at great white sharks: With fear and awe.
Ginger Baker's my favourite all-time, but what John Bonham did with Led Zep made them my favourite band. Keith Moon is fantastic but The Who didn't really do it for me
The goat ? That opinion....for technique, style, performance is Buddy Rich... I love Keith Moon, absolutely love him...Bonham wasn't a favorite for me, but... they both were great for the bands they were in. Greatest of all time should be someone who could do it all and they wouldn't fit in every band. Neil Peart, was very versatile, very technically brilliant, Kenny Aronoff, Ringo Starr, Charlie watts, Stewart Copeland, Ginger Baker, Jeff Pocaro.... there are many great drummers...greatest is an opinion...
John Bonham is the THE greatest rock drummer of all time. Nobody else had the unique combination of Sound, Groove, technical ability, dynamics, power and sensibility. He knew when to get on top and when to lay back. His drumming was more about feel than perfection. He had that incredible right foot and don't forget about his hi-hat work and those sick fills, that are often never mentioned (overlooked). He remains the All Around perfect drummer for rock. He could have played in a Funk band or a Metal band just the same. He was extraordinary
Team Moon here, but Bonham my second favorite- generally Zeppelin ‘s team seems to have wider appeal with their block party in a summer park approachability- but for all their quirks I still Put Entwistle/ Moon as one, Zepp two, Cream close on heals
Amo keith per me e il migliore ,ma john è eccezionale, cosa dire sono sono due stili diversi uno creatività ritmica con feeling pazzeschi, l'altro potenza e precisione con due piedi fantastici , se li uniamo assieme diamo alla luce il batterista rock per eccellenza
moon never did a drum solo to compare...he playing is not straight but you can copy bonham not too sophiscated.moon could play lead with his drumming.....bonham was just amplified ...moon has to be be listened to closely
You can try to copy Bonham, but you will definitely fall short. His playing was not as linear as you say. The feel of his playing can't be duplicated. Play a track of any drummer against Bonham and you can say who is the real deal.
both are equally great and in a technical one can say bonham takes the cake… a little biased since moon is my #1 inspo but the shear emotion and approach he took cannot be matched in any sense. bonham can hold a groove but Keith turned the drums into more than a time keeping element. some of the quickest hands and most exciting and inspiring drummers to ever watch imo
The answer is rather obvious... The best drummer between Keith Moon and Bonzo is Neil Peart. Actually.... I mainly give that answer because I don't want to choose between the two. I love them both and either can easily suit my first choice on different days in different moods.... But why choose because it feels like I'm diminishing the one I don't choose. So Peart it is.
Bonham just wakes some sort of primal feeling in me when he plays, he plays with such power and a heavy groove. Moon makes me feel like a wild man in a speeding car. He’s sloppy and precise at the same time. Bonham edges out my favor just because I discovered him first.
There is a resaon why Bonhams drums are sampled in Rap music and copied/mimicked in other forms of music, rock, etc. It's because he layed down the coolest beats and patterns of any rock drummer. That alone says it all. Those who say he wasn't fast with his hands are just showing the world how dumb they are with their lack of knowledge and familiarity with the Zeppelin catalog. Good Times bad Times, alone, changed rock drumming forever. He was 20 years okd when he recorded that song. Just the vision to put those parts/beats together and then execute it is an amazing accomplishment.
I agree with some comments here. Bonham would not have worked well with The Who nor Moon with Zepplin. But Moon’s larger than life personality and the fact that most drummers cannot emulate his style of playing (although Starkey comes somewhat close) Keith is my personal favorite.
Keith Moon was a fantastic drummer.... for the Who. The Who was unique, they're kind of the inverse of every other band in that the rhythm section is more like the lead and the guitar is more like the rhythm. I love Keith's playing, but in almost any other band, he'd sound like shit.
When you start seeing other actual drummers separate those who are seen as unique… why I hate people who know nothing of drumming debate who the best drummers are lol. (Honestly just have respect with what’s been done, and what’s different should inspire you to do better.)
I don't like Keith Moon's style,I think he's overrated. With sincere respect with his fans, John Bonham was in another level. JB was much more sophisticated than him, he had jazz influences,R&B, funk,etc. Listen to the groove Bonham plays on No Quarter, both live in 1973 and the studio version. Listen to Rock N' Roll, Fool in the Rain, Good Times Bad Times, When the Levee Breaks. I'm sorry but there's no comparison. Keith Moon was a Rock N' Roll icon, legendary, but we're talking about John Bonham.
Would have paid extra to have heard Moon's version of Black Dog! Not a drum friendly song to begin with but brilliant with Bonham's ability. Moon would have been a joke!
Moon was a hard and fast banger. He never planned out a pattern. He just surrounded himself with lots of targets and went after them with ferocity. I don't think I ever heard him play even a shuffle. But he perfectly fit The Who's overall style. Bonzo was a musician and a technician. He could bang as hard and fast as any other rock drummer, but he had remarkable technique and stick control, and an amazing sense of what to put in and what to leave out. While I've only ever heard Moon play 4/4 in various tempos, Bonzo could play different signatures, developed a half time shuffle and of course he mastered triplets on his single kick using what was, at the time, the rather tedious Ludwig Speed King pedal. I could imagine Bonzo playing Moon's signature bit in Won't Get Fooled Again. I just can't see Moon doing justice to Moby Dick. Moon was absolutely great. But Bonzo was the GOAT.
I wud never argue about bonzo being a great great drummer but i wud argue that keith moon is the most unique and quirky style of drummer there has ever been.
I wouldn’t say no contest with anyone , i mean Neil Peart is easily the greatest rock drummer but overall I’d say Buddy Rich is even greater than Peart, Bonham and Moon put together. The man was a beast in technicality, power and speed.
Neil Peart, another one-hit-wonder. Great tom rolls, fascinating wood block work, lol. No soul, zero swing. He was the greatest drummer in Rush... which is all Neil was capable of.
I love the way he knew how to dress and fill the songs, tuned his drums, made very simple signatures thrive in a composition, synced / improv’d with the band, went gentle and went hard… Bonham was an absolute joy.
That last bit is Ozone Baby off Coda. it was not only Bonham's sound but his feel, the swing. No (and I mean no) other rock drummer was so fluid in his aggression. It's sad seeing Moon be such a joke here but like Peart, Moon had one style and nothing more. His studio work meticulously edited to make one complete track according to Townshend.
@@LudwigHollywood66 You did it! The perfect cut 'n' paste angry Rush fan response. What exactly did Peart do that's so brilliant? The same stiff tom roll for 50 years,?
@@amess0stuff89 you’re obviously just a hater so why even bother debating with you. You’re right and everyone else is wrong about Peart, there are ya happy now.
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My favorite band is Led Zeppelin, my favorite drummer is Keith Moon
Bonzo was the reason why I got into Led Zeppelin
@@braindamage70 Bonzo was a one of a kind, the hammer of the gods
I can't agree, but this is truly a subjective thing. I prefer Bonham's combo of raw power and technical excellence that's at another level. But listen to Won't Get Fooled Again for example, and you can say probably say the same thing. Vive la difference!!!
@@braindamage70 It was actually my big brother got me into Led Zep... but Bonzo cemented a life-long dedication. Now, both my kids claim "Whole Lotta Love" as their all-time favorite song.
Played drums for 45 years and Keith was by far the hardest drummer to copy.Seen him live twice and his approach was both unorthodox
sloppy and also brilliant at the same time.Some gigs he never even used a hi hat.A true maniac genius.
Yes ! Same here.. been drumming for many decades.. I would rate myself much above average.. . and here is sloppy Keith..... always throwing me off with his strange fills in the most odd places. It was calculated for him to some degree.. but hardly anybody I've seen that can truly get it..
Totally agree, he was brilliant, and he wasn't going to play standard drums
Check out B. j. Wilson 3rd best drummer . Imo
I envy you so much!
You saw him twice!
Congratulations! Keith is a legend, the most entertaining player and so so talented! The best of all times
Keith is the man not taking anything away from Bonham I suppose it's preference
Keith Moon era absurdo, o melhor de todos sem dúvidas...
Moon was theatrical and captivating to watch, certainly more Krupa than Rich. Moon had an inimitable style, ferocious power, passion and flair. Moon was unique. It is impossible to explain his drumming, his approach was an enigma, the result, a rock drummer that had, and will never have any equal. Moon is my favourite by a great distance.
Moon was untouchable until about 1973. Bonham and Moon are like apples and oranges. They were the best drummers for their bands.
Bonham was all head, moon was all heart! Both make the body live, but completely uncomparable to eachother
Bonham was all head?
Then why does my heart pound everytime i hear him play, but I don't feel a thing listening to Moonie
I enjoyed Keith's Drumming more. It was more musical. I also enjoyed watching his antics on and off stage more. But I also LOVED Bonham's style of drumming. I think there is room for both,.... but Keith was an all original.
Exactly, KM was almost soloing with drums, the who had two soloists: drummer and bass player, a rythme guitar Player and a singer
Keith Moon.
For me, MOON!!!!
Moon
I've been playing for 44 yrs myself I've got mad respect for both of them, they both are legends, I have played both styles, I prefer JB it's just I like that style and swagger. 💯👍 Both of them R.I.P.🙏
Keith Moon of the 2 was definitely outside the box and had a completely different style like no other. Keith Moons style can’t be repeated or copied, as where John Bonham’s style is more easily repeatable and we see that with many famous drummers like Dave Grohl for example. Yes, John Bonham may have been more “skilled”, sounded better at soloing, more refined, but he was also more linear than the 2 and that made his style very easy to repeat. Still haven’t found anyone who can be compared to the great Keith Moon. Both fantastic drummers, they are both important for rock music.
I think that if you say Bonham can be copied or imitated you probably haven't heard Bonhan with proper attention. Many have tried to imitate him... None have succeeded.
@@CarlosCostaX Phil Collins couldn't copy him.
They both died way to dumb......Young? No. Definitely dumb 🤣
@@CarlosCostaX Keith Moon is super flash. So he seems more complex at first sight. John, on face vaule seems more straight forward and standard. But once you break down his playing playing.....it seems almost beyond comprehension! How many drummer's try and cover Rock and Roll for the first time thinking "this is a easy straight forward rock song", put blood, sweat and tears into and decide a work around is their only option.
I love Moon, and no-one can play like him, but I've never heard anyone who could play like Bonham. They all try, but they can't do it.
No favouritism here!!! They're both bloody brilliant!!! 😁😁😁😆
Keith moon number 1 hands down the best of the best
2 great rock drummers. Of the 2, Moon is my favorite. Then you also have Ginger Baker, Carl Palmer, Neil Peart, and Danny Carey. Best drummers are jazz drummers, though. Billy Cobham, Joe Morrello, Buddy Rich, Gene Krupa, etc.
Lenny White of TMO is the equal to Billy Cobham.
Arguably the 2 greatest drummers of all time. As to who is the best is anyones guess. Both legends moon the loon and bonzo. R i p.
Could not argue with that statement for sure🙌
Bonham is the best ever!
@@juliemanarin4127 ABSOLUTELY
Though both great, neither is even close to the g.o.a.t.
@@LudwigHollywood66 maybe for you.
But for us, they're the goats of the goats
Moon The Best 💪
Keith.
Sorry. There's no comparison and never will be.
I give the nod to Keith Moon. But it's close. I have a friend who is a very accomplished session musician drummer nationally who says Keith wasn't all that. I disagree, because my ears tell me that he was arguably the best drummer that ever lived.
Keith moon is the better drummer of the 2 for me, moon played so much faster than Bonham and that's the point for me anyway that makes Keith the better drummer, slow and precise doesn't cut it for my taste
You obviously haven't listened to much Zeppelin
@@mthomas1973 quite the contrary, i love zeppelin Jimmy Page is was and will always be the greatest guitarist and also a great producer and composer as well, Robert Plant is one of the best singers in rock history, I just prefer Keith moon as a drummer, John Bonham is my 2nd best drummer he's just not my favorite and my favorite rhythm section of any band is john entwhistle and Keith moon, watch live at leeds young man blues it is the reason I think Keith Moon is the best his hand speed is something to be seen to believe......so yes I am a huge zeppelin fan for the last 40 years ever since I was a teenager,,,,
I agree with this comment, so fast, takes a lot of brain cells to keep up with Moon Live!
Keith sin duda alguna los who rockeaban posta en vivo!!!
Two monsters…
But I pick Keith Moon! He started something new with the double bass massive floors and crashes no Hi-Hat WTF he was doing in the 60’s…
But beside impressing me live he was just like improvising but wait…
Not improvised! He calculates mostly of his fills and he certainly make it clear by letting The Who without nobody else to do his job. I love THE WHO and I have to admit that 80% of their creativity died with him!
I miss him so much and I miss Bonzo too! 😢 unfortunately I’m only 40. Didn’t have the opportunity to watch any of them live…
Bonzo the better drummer. Keith is the GOAT.
They were both great and different from each other and were critical to defining the groups they were in. Bonham wouldn't have worked well in the Who and Moon wouldn't have been right with Zeppelin.
As Moon once said, he was the best Keith Moon style drummer in the world.
Keith moon.
Keith Moon...no without doubt
Bonham Único, o melhor de todos
I don't like to make comparisons, I don't think it's fair because both are geniuses. But I'll be honest, Bonham awakens a primal instinct, a feeling that is dormant in the depths of the soul, something unique, powerful, inexplicable. Love Bonzo ❤
Listen to Live at Leeds and see if anything comes close
As Chris Huston (recording and sound engineer) put it , Moon was a performer 1st, drummer 2nd.
Bonham was a drummer 1st, performer 2nd - more measured and precise.
come on now The Who needed Moon and Led Zeppelin needed Bonham ! John's son Jason plays like John and Many young drummers can play the drums like John did note for note ... but no one has been able to play the drums exactly like Moon did !
If there were recordings of them playing each other's music, then we'd have something to go on.
I'd love to see how Moon tackles 'In my time of dying'.
I gave this a watch and read the comments as I thought "Hey, it's Moon vs Bonham, *two* competitors in this race so at least the geeks can't shoehorn Peart in here..." I was wrong.....
I like both of them they can jam, well they use too.
Of those two Bonzo no doubt. But Ginger Baker was quite a beast it’d be interesting to see him stacked against them
Moon !!!!!!! The first!
The Who Live At Leeds
Led Zeppelin Live At The MSG
Two of the greatest live albums in history and two of the best showcases of drumming in history.
Id say Keith Moon since he embodies true rock and roll in his drumming, which is pure excitment from start to finish.
Those who argue that Keiths style was exclusivly that though, dont seem to know that Keith Moon knew how to create a strong backbeat or use the "less is more" technique like Bonham. He used it on a few live and studio records, its just that it was never as needed/demanded on Who records than on Zeppein ones.
Example - My Wife, The Song Is Over, Bell Boy, Doctor Jimmy
Bonham though is easily second though. Both Keith and John are miles better than Bill Ward, Baker, Niel Peart etc.
The best way to put it, was that Keith Moon was like John Bonham, if every style that John knew was combined into one. Crazy and Some how kept time greatly.
I never considered Bonham to be an exceptional drummer. Many drummers, including an 8-year-old female drummer, can mimic him perfectly. Moon's drumming is far harder to replicate. Far harder to capture his energy. I saw Keith play four times with the Who. Mesmerizing. Unconventional. Unpredictable. Fast, powerful, loud, tight, loose, spontaneous, riveting, exciting. Moon in his prime was rock drumming. There was none better.
I prefer bonham but keith is a fucking master. Its sad really i felt that keith was wasted talent with The Who.
Safe to say, if drums ever become sentient beings, they will look at the old videos of Bonham & Moon the same way humans look at great white sharks: With fear and awe.
Ginger Baker's my favourite all-time, but what John Bonham did with Led Zep made them my favourite band. Keith Moon is fantastic but The Who didn't really do it for me
The Who were loud but nothing ground breaking to me.
John entwistle was a beast,
Daltery was the first Golden God.
Be great if video matched audio
The goat ? That opinion....for technique, style, performance is Buddy Rich... I love Keith Moon, absolutely love him...Bonham wasn't a favorite for me, but... they both were great for the bands they were in. Greatest of all time should be someone who could do it all and they wouldn't fit in every band. Neil Peart, was very versatile, very technically brilliant, Kenny Aronoff, Ringo Starr, Charlie watts, Stewart Copeland, Ginger Baker, Jeff Pocaro.... there are many great drummers...greatest is an opinion...
John Bonham is the THE greatest rock drummer of all time.
Nobody else had the unique combination of Sound, Groove, technical ability, dynamics, power and sensibility.
He knew when to get on top and when to lay back. His drumming was more about feel than perfection.
He had that incredible right foot and don't forget about his hi-hat work and those sick fills, that are often never mentioned (overlooked).
He remains the All Around perfect drummer for rock. He could have played in a Funk band or a Metal band just the same.
He was extraordinary
I’d remove that “of all time” bit, it’s a foolish qualifier
@@rondickson7740 facts Keith is way better
@@ringostarchy3604 Keith wasn't worthy enough to even carry Bonham's bass drumkit
@@rondickson7740 No.
Bonham is the best of all time.
Periodt.
😂😂😂
Both are geniuses. It's like comparing paintings by two different artists.
It's a tie but we can all agree Rick alien is a great drummer with one arm and Tommy Lee sucks,
Played in cover bands for 30 years. Never met a drummer who could play a Who song, too difficult.
Never met a drummer who could replicate Bonham.
Although I've met and played with plenty Moon alikes
@@pinkled4429 Sure you have
In my opinion Bonham was a better all around drummer than Moon, but Moon was more unique and unpredictable making it harder to replicate.
Team Moon here, but Bonham my second favorite- generally Zeppelin ‘s team seems to have wider appeal with their block party in a summer park approachability- but for all their quirks I still Put Entwistle/ Moon as one, Zepp two, Cream close on heals
I'd like to see moon/ox play the things Jpj and Bonzo did.
Oh wait they couldn't
Both men of great talent gone too soon.
Amo keith per me e il migliore ,ma john è eccezionale, cosa dire sono sono due stili diversi uno creatività ritmica con feeling pazzeschi, l'altro potenza e precisione con due piedi fantastici , se li uniamo assieme diamo alla luce il batterista rock per eccellenza
moon never did a drum solo to compare...he playing is not straight but you can copy bonham not too sophiscated.moon could play lead with his drumming.....bonham was just amplified ...moon has to be be listened to closely
You can try to copy Bonham, but you will definitely fall short. His playing was not as linear as you say. The feel of his playing can't be duplicated. Play a track of any drummer against Bonham and you can say who is the real deal.
Bonham
Bonham and Carey are my 2 favorites. Bonham easily gets the nod over Moon IMO. There is no best drummer...only opinions
Bonham. Next question?
I agree with many that all the top drummers are great. Paice, Baker, Bonham, Moon, Ward, Peart, etc. You can't compare em.
Has anyone ever listened to Any Led Zeppelin song and said.. "wow, who's that drummer?" The answer is No.
Be honest!
And the winners are... Ian Paice and Neil Peart.
both are equally great and in a technical one can say bonham takes the cake… a little biased since moon is my #1 inspo but the shear emotion and approach he took cannot be matched in any sense. bonham can hold a groove but Keith turned the drums into more than a time keeping element. some of the quickest hands and most exciting and inspiring drummers to ever watch imo
John Henry Boham.
Keith was good. But i wll go with John Bonham.
Bonzo
Hands down Bonham....
The answer is rather obvious... The best drummer between Keith Moon and Bonzo is Neil Peart.
Actually.... I mainly give that answer because I don't want to choose between the two. I love them both and either can easily suit my first choice on different days in different moods.... But why choose because it feels like I'm diminishing the one I don't choose. So Peart it is.
Ha ha really good answer... why bother trying to choose all the top notch drummers are brilliant..... it sort of depends on your taste in music
Bonham could play all manner of rudiments.
Moon could play singles.
Wow that's a tough one......Bonham was the more composed Moon just went where he wanted.
Moonie
John
The answer is Neil Peart
jeez people, stop trying to determine who's the g o a t, those two are both great and part of the greatest in terms of influence.
Obviously Bonham was more polished
Bonham just wakes some sort of primal feeling in me when he plays, he plays with such power and a heavy groove. Moon makes me feel like a wild man in a speeding car. He’s sloppy and precise at the same time. Bonham edges out my favor just because I discovered him first.
He's not sloppy,
It's his groove.
Playing with Jimmy Page, you gotta have a laid back groove
There is a resaon why Bonhams drums are sampled in Rap music and copied/mimicked in other forms of music, rock, etc. It's because he layed down the coolest beats and patterns of any rock drummer.
That alone says it all.
Those who say he wasn't fast with his hands are just showing the world how dumb they are with their lack of knowledge and familiarity with the Zeppelin catalog.
Good Times bad Times, alone, changed rock drumming forever.
He was 20 years okd when he recorded that song. Just the vision to put those parts/beats together and then execute it is an amazing accomplishment.
I agree with some comments here. Bonham would not have worked well with The Who nor Moon with Zepplin. But Moon’s larger than life personality and the fact that most drummers cannot emulate his style of playing (although Starkey comes somewhat close) Keith is my personal favorite.
Danny Carey
Add Bill Ward and you have the top 3 of all time.🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Ginger Baker was better than both. Precision like Bonham with bombast like Moon. Moving along.
Keith Moon was a fantastic drummer.... for the Who. The Who was unique, they're kind of the inverse of every other band in that the rhythm section is more like the lead and the guitar is more like the rhythm. I love Keith's playing, but in almost any other band, he'd sound like shit.
I think there is a certain drummer from Cream you are forgetting about
Luuuuuune ( Guy platteau Marseille)
When you start seeing other actual drummers separate those who are seen as unique… why I hate people who know nothing of drumming debate who the best drummers are lol. (Honestly just have respect with what’s been done, and what’s different should inspire you to do better.)
BORIS LEINER is the best drummer ever in my opinion. The band is AZRA. The man is a real rhytm machine.
BONHAM !!!
Bonham.
This is an easy dub for Bonham. Great feel, chops and amazing drum tone!
Bonzo all the way...
I don't like Keith Moon's style,I think he's overrated. With sincere respect with his fans, John Bonham was in another level. JB was much more sophisticated than him, he had jazz influences,R&B, funk,etc. Listen to the groove Bonham plays on No Quarter, both live in 1973 and the studio version. Listen to Rock N' Roll, Fool in the Rain, Good Times Bad Times, When the Levee Breaks. I'm sorry but there's no comparison. Keith Moon was a Rock N' Roll icon, legendary, but we're talking about John Bonham.
Really? You think it comes down to only these guys?
No, there are better classic rock drummers.
Definitivamente el mejor vaterista de todos los tiempos es Neil Perl
Would have paid extra to have heard Moon's version of Black Dog! Not a drum friendly song to begin with but brilliant with Bonham's ability. Moon would have been a joke!
Would have been better
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Moon was a hard and fast banger. He never planned out a pattern. He just surrounded himself with lots of targets and went after them with ferocity. I don't think I ever heard him play even a shuffle. But he perfectly fit The Who's overall style.
Bonzo was a musician and a technician. He could bang as hard and fast as any other rock drummer, but he had remarkable technique and stick control, and an amazing sense of what to put in and what to leave out. While I've only ever heard Moon play 4/4 in various tempos, Bonzo could play different signatures, developed a half time shuffle and of course he mastered triplets on his single kick using what was, at the time, the rather tedious Ludwig Speed King pedal.
I could imagine Bonzo playing Moon's signature bit in Won't Get Fooled Again. I just can't see Moon doing justice to Moby Dick.
Moon was absolutely great. But Bonzo was the GOAT.
The finesse, the raw power, the sense of groove, the technique, the creativity: John Bonham was all of this. Sorry, Moonie, but there's no contest.
Townsend and Entwistle both said . Moon " could not keep tme : that's why He played busy ,the way He did . No big giiee
Between these two the best drummer is Bill Ward.
Without a dout bohnam
totally different drummers...Ringo ok!
Bonham is the best...hands down! No contest with anyone!!
I wud never argue about bonzo being a great great drummer but i wud argue that keith moon is the most unique and quirky style of drummer there has ever been.
Without a question. But you have to remove Bonham from the equation because nobody is even in the same ballpark with Bonham. Nobody!
I wouldn’t say no contest with anyone , i mean Neil Peart is easily the greatest rock drummer but overall I’d say Buddy Rich is even greater than Peart, Bonham and Moon put together. The man was a beast in technicality, power and speed.
Bonzo Forever
Neil Peart, another one-hit-wonder. Great tom rolls, fascinating wood block work, lol. No soul, zero swing. He was the greatest drummer in Rush... which is all Neil was capable of.
Neil peart r.i.p was the best 👌
I love the way he knew how to dress and fill the songs, tuned his drums, made very simple signatures thrive in a composition, synced / improv’d with the band, went gentle and went hard… Bonham was an absolute joy.
That last bit is Ozone Baby off Coda. it was not only Bonham's sound but his feel, the swing. No (and I mean no) other rock drummer was so fluid in his aggression. It's sad seeing Moon be such a joke here but like Peart, Moon had one style and nothing more. His studio work meticulously edited to make one complete track according to Townshend.
Townshend is a known exaggerator and liar.
Bonham couldn’t do 1/2 of what Peart could do on a drumset.
@@LudwigHollywood66 You did it! The perfect cut 'n' paste angry Rush fan response. What exactly did Peart do that's so brilliant? The same stiff tom roll for 50 years,?
@@amess0stuff89 you’re obviously just a hater so why even bother debating with you. You’re right and everyone else is wrong about Peart, there are ya happy now.
@@amess0stuff89 By the way, Moby Dick was about 5 minutes of triplets that I could play in my sleep.