My favorite videos are your multi-ski comparisons. I watch them over and over....The most detailed and throughly informative and very well reviewed than anyone on RUclips. I can't wait to watch for your up coming other waist width comparison videos. Great Work Guys!
As someone who skis a Bondafide - can definitely agree that for me, ski season is about maintaining all of my power that I build during triathlon season, and the bonafides are still making me work every single day on that mountain, which I love.
Spot on with the kore 93: I skied them a lot as an intermediate skier weighing 200+ pounds and I always loved them and never found them too challenging to ski.
Thanks as always guys, demoed some Ranger 96's earlier this year, 6' around 190lbs and just couldn't really get them to turn just like Bob said, is great having the two points of view.
Good to see Jeff, when I saw Bob did so many 2024 ski reviews I was worried about Jeff quit. Good chemistry between you two. Can’t wait to see mid 80mm and front side review.
Still here! Jeff takes on more of the editing role in the ski test videos during the summer--he put in his studio time, mainly at the top of the alphabet.
I love this video series.... it's the start of a new ski season that I can't wait for..... I'm already booked for president's week at Beaver creek in Colorado..... Christmas week at Belleayre, Ny... bought my ski passes for Mountain creek and hope to get to Stowe this year..... Good times ahead.... :)
Bonafide description is spot on. I've retired from skiing a bonafide, but when you get that ski on track it destroys everything! What a ski! Now on K2 mindbender 99ti
I love these videos because they give a really good idea of the pros and cons of each ski. With so many different brands and ski types, these videos are extremely helpful in narrowing down the ones that we should probably look at for our usage.
Great stuff gents! Way to start the new season. Just need some snow now. Y’all have been busy! Excited to see the comparison videos, but their all great!
Ha ha. I was just doing some research on my own this afternoon on mid 90’s all mountain skis(instead of working). I was wondering when you guys were going to put out this video and save me a lot of time.
I Skied the 90C in Telluride early season when the snow wasn't deep and thought it was a lot of fun on firmer bumps. I'm only 5'10 though so the 177 was great
Super awesome reviews. Just sublime info delivered with in depth knowledge. The comparison between weight/strength of skier and more precise technique is the icing on the cake. Thank you! :)
I bought blaze on strength of this review. Been skiing great, impressed with my conditioning this year and uptick in my mogul skiing. Skied with a buddy yesterday, who is on my old enforcer 94. We swapped skis for a run. Turns out my conditioning and mogul skiing are not getting better, the enforcer 94 is just an exhausting, heavy, carve happy lead sled. Glad the world has moved to everybody carving steep blues. Keeps all you folks who can't ski moguls and trees off the good runs.
I'm glad to see the Mantras came out on top. Haven't tried new ones in a few years, but I've been rocking Mantras for years now, and I love mine. My friend thinks they are a bit too stiff for him as a powder ski, but I'm a big guy, so I have no problems with the stiffness. If I'm skiing perfect corduroy, I'll strap on a pair of race skis, or even my classic pair of Volant Platinums, but for literally everything else, I'm on the Mantras.
Im not even in the market for skis & i watched this review. Luv your guys insight & opinions. This was my market last yr coming back to skiing after 20yr break. Got to demo oblivion 94, volkl deacon 84, kanjo 86 @ our local resort i even tried the mantra m6 which were too tiring for me being out of shape & practice. I bought the Unleashed 98s & love them for my 1 ski west coast quiver. I just scored a set of mindbender 85 on sale from you for the wife from you too. You guys are top notch!!
We've been trying to get smaller brands involved in content, but the return for us isn't as great since we don't sell Moment on our site. Liberty, Line, Faction, even Black Crows are small(er) than some of the big brands, and whenever we see an opportunity to get on more independent skis, we certainly jump at that chance.
Like Black Crows and Faction, Moment is a brand that people will buy IF you sell them. Also, how is Line a small brand; they are owned by K2, and have been doing this for almost 30 years?@@SkiEssentials
@@SkiEssentialsI asked Moment and it sounds like they would be very interested to work with you guys if you were interested and thought the partnership would work well for both of you. They said if anyone from Ski Essentials contacted them they’d be interested.
I‘ve been skiing a bonafide for the last 5 years. Such a good ski. I‘ve never missed playfulness when I skied it. It is just so stable in any conditions. For me it even works in powder and bumps. But, I just ordered a camox for fun days on groomers.
First of all, thank you for these awesome videos, best ski videos on You Tube. I love the Atomic Maverick graphics. I also really like the sounds of the Maverick as a one ski quiver for east coast ski. Currently I have 2 skis. Blizzard Quattro Ti 8.0 for front side groomers that tend to get too heavy/stiff at the end of a hard day and does not like to absorb end of day curd, but awesome at high speed craves and can hold an edge on hardest of surfaces. DPS Waiver 99, which is super lightweight fun ski with tons of floatation and great for spring skiing but just skids on anything remotely hard packed. I wonder if the Maverick could bridge these two, thoughts?
I want to echo your comments on the Bonafide. I rented them once out west. The snow was actually firm (just my luck, east coast snow). The shop recommended them. It took me about half the day to realize you have to ski full throttle 100% of time. They love and need to be driven hard.
Bonafide and Brahma certainly like to be brought up to speed in order to become active, especially in longer lengths. For the Maverick, I do think the light weight is balanced well by the metallic dampness. You get a good blend of energy like the Wailer and grip like the Quattro. Even though Maverick and Wailer are similar in length, they are very different skis in terms of character. I'd put the Stance 96 right there with it in terms of blending maneuverable weight and sturdy construction.
Ok guys watched this video about 8 times now. Demoed more skis and I think it's time for more damp skis. So between the Mantra M6 and Storm rider 95 what are your thoughts? Need to rail groomers at speed, crush chop/crud, little bit of bumps, steeps and back bowls under 5 inches of mashed potatoes. Rustler 11 for over 6 inches plus days. Thx as always, the best in the biz!!! Keep it up guys
While the Mantra operates at a very high level of performance for all of these attributes you're looking for, the Stormrider is a lot easier to access MOST of those things, just not at the same high level. Personally, I'd take the Stockli because I just don't want to work as hard and I don't need that tip top level, rather I prefer the smoothness, silence, and poise of the Stockli.
Agreed, I said this as well. In the women’s category, the Sierras are around 95 mm width, and the Commanders come in 92. The Hot Mess skis go down to mid 80 range.
I am still between Stormrider 9 and Mantra M6 :) The first is nice, but I can see really tempting prices for the last year’s Mantra M6. BTW: always looking forward to watch these videos. @@SkiEssentials
I am a 20-ish HDCP GS & Slalom racer and LOVE my 2019 Bonafide 184s for fun time when I put my race skis up. I was seeking a lighter ski for out west so picked up a pair of Head KORE 105's in the 177 length. I skied them in Jackson Hole for the first time. They are great skis but may be almost TOO similar to the Bonafides. Great on piste & crude busting and far easier on the legs due to the lighter weight but way too stiff in steeps and large moguls as they simply can't be slowed down in those conditions and can launch HARD if pressed (I am 5'10" and 225lbs). I am now in search of something "softer" in tip and tails that is also light weight to replace the KORE 105s for thigh-high POW, trees and deep moguls for my January Telluride trip. Would love some recommendations
I'd take a look at Rossignol's Sender 104 Ti. Uses the Air Tip Tech so it is lighter in the front but still floaty and turny throughout. Elan Ripstick 106 Black Edition should be at the top of the list as well. Have fun!
Alright gents, ready to pull trigger at SE (was actually shopping at Basin in Killington this weekend, hadnt realized its yours now! Great spot!) Been on Camox 174 for three years. 5'9 180 advanced. Looking for more pop carving, an easier going tail. Confident charging groomers, less confident and looking to make progression in trees, bumps, mixed snow easier. Bliz R9? Ripstick? Something else?
I love my Head Kore 93! I have a ton of fun every time I take them out it's a great choice as an all mountain / freeride ski. I'm 5ft.11in. 230lb advanced and hard charging New England skier I have the Kore 93 177cm. I do sometimes wish I got the 184cm but like Bob said the Kore 93 is a strong enough ski to size down with no issue. The 177 is faster edge to edge while still being strong and stable enough for me to charge pretty hard. The stiffer flex from the multilayer carbon construction combined with serious camber underfoot allows the ski to get on edge and carve with a reaction to very little input with precision. It's a strong ski that shoots you out of each turn with minimal energy input and only increases the harder you push it. Add the fact that it's incredibly light on your feet and has the shape to float pretty well in soft snow and it's easy to see why it's a fun ski no matter the conditions. Some negatives of the Kore 93 and it's carbon construction are that it can be a bit twitchy and noisy at high speed, and it can be hard to handle in bumps and firm choppy snow.
It's an interesting conversation for sure, and the only thing I've become more confident with is that each ski brings its own personality to the table, and there's no one magic calculator for determining ski length. I've generally found that the wider and more burly the ski, the more comfortable it becomes to size down. I run into issues with skis like the Serpo, which is strong and stable, but I don't think 180 is quite enough for me, so I opt for the 186. I used to think Kendo in the 184 was on the short side, but now I have a blast on the 177, even. But Ripstick Black in a 180? Forget it--need that 188 in that ski because the shovels are on the softer side.
Thank you! We do address the Who is it For aspect in the written article that accompanies this video. Sometimes the flow of the conversation takes us away, but I do agree that it is a very important aspect.
Great video guys! All you said about Rustler 9 is completely what I'm looking for in a ski (versatility, playfull, partial twin tips, fine carving performance). However, the price tag is a bit spicy for me - especially since (if I'm lucky) I get two weeks of skiing every year. Can you pint point me to a similar ski, but with a bit more friendly price tag - maybe an older model? Thanks!
Nice blend of value and performance in these two: www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-k2-poacher-ski?ski%2520size=163 www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-volkl-revolt-96-ski-2310153?ski%2520size=157
Can you go into more detail on how the BC Serpo and Blizzard Rustler 9 compare? Specifically for east coast application? Im looking for something with strong edge grip for ice/firm snow as well as versatile enough to dive into trees or moguls on a whim. I don’t need to prioritize float since I have a pair of QST 106s.
Sounds like you're leaning to the Serpo--that ski is a lot more satisfying in an on-trail and groomed format. The effective edge is longer than the Rustler, so it's a smoother overall feel. There's not as much rocker or taper, giving it a more direct level of responsiveness to the snow. It's also not too shabby in bumps and trees. Even though the 106 is 10 mm wider than the Rustler 9, they still have similar styles and characteristics--the Serpo will offer a greater difference.
My 3 that I would like to try even before you get into your comparison would be 1. Atomic Maverick TI 2. Kastle 96 TI 3. Volkl M6 Mantra.. Let the show begin..
My first 6 runs are groomers and I am sure I could handle a Bonafide for those.. Then I go up into the bowls.. If the snow is good hardpack I am sure that I would do fine but if it got grippy snow or washboard crud then I can see a problem.. I am afraid of commitment;) You guys should have 1 word that describe every ski...
Because of your videos I buy all my skis from ski essentials. Sure it would be easier to go to a christy sports or something, but just to support you guys. thanks for the videos!
recs out of this list for a PNW ski? get some heavier snow, skiing lots of trees, and often soft snow. the head skis seemed really interesting to me. but basically something a little more burly to get through some heavier chop
The metallic skis will feel more stable through crud and chop. Kore is great, but can get tossed because it's pretty light. I'd take a look at the Rustler 9 for something very playful, while the Stormrider 95 has more smoothness and directional carving capabilities. Sure, it comes with a higher price, but it's an amazing product.
Hello, love these comparisons! I'm in the process of buying new skis, but not sure what to go for. I would say that I'm an advanced/expert skier. 6'3 long and 80-85kg. I mostly love to ski in powder and offpist, which I would do all of the time if possible. But due to conditions where I live, I usually find myself in the pist carving. Sometimes on ice as well. I've been skiing on some Nordica speed machines from 2011 (178cm) until now, which works well in the pists but feel a bit clumsy of pist (and don't really float). Tried some K2 106C this season on a powder day which I loved, but I think I want them to be just a little more suitable for the slopes. What I have been looking at the most is Salomon QTS98, Salomon QTS92, Salomon Stance 96 and K2 96C. Which ones do you think would fit me the best, and what length? Great work with the reviews!
I think it's telling that you liked the 106C, and the move to the 96C makes good sense. This allows for a similar feel in the softer snow and trees but a better on-trail experience as well. I think the QST 92 fits in well here, too, but the Stance is a bit stiff and the 98 is maybe on the wide/heavy side. Great mobility and grip with the QST 92! I'd say the 176 in the QST or the 178 in the 96C are the way to go.
Since you asked for comparisons: How about building a spectrum from in-bounds skis with touring capability to touring skis with in-bounds capability...?
While we do include some hybrid skis within these comparisons, the touring series will definitely highlight the in and out of bounds capabilities of similarly branded skis. It's on the list for sure.
@@SkiEssentials I had to laugh at the "why doesn't this ski turn" comment. I had two near bail out moments at Stratton on them where I literally went to a solute edge of the trail because I grossly underestimated the seeming non existent turning radius. I too like the 92ti, Ive got them in my rack and what a different ski entirely.
@@taziokastelic_films I am sir yes. 6'3" and 235lbs, but I'm no where near as skilled a skier as Bob. These guys give some really sound advice, best in the industry, hands down.
Thanks! I think that for soft and deep snow, the Liberty, K2, Blaze, Rustler, and Line are all right up there. That's 5, sorry. Of those, in deep snow, I'd choose the Liberty.
Great Review as always, Do you think Elan will change up the 96 Black next year? And what do you think about the 2024 Rustler 9 vs 96 Ripstick Black Edition? I would like Elan to stiffen up the tip a touch.
We have not received official word about those changes for next year, but typically skis do change after a 2-3 year run. I, too, would like to see a sturdier shovel in the Ripstick, especially in the Black Edition. I'd rather ski the Ripstick Black in groomers and carved turns more than the Rustler, while the Rustler is a smoother performer in the trees and powder, mainly due to the tail rocker. The tail of the Elan is pretty flat and responsive, relative to that of the Rustler 9.
Interesting discussion on the Head Kore. I am on the fence on getting a Kore 87, as I am 155lbs (built like Jeff) and have been on the fence because of the stiffness. I used to have a pair of Head Monster 98s, and they were an incredible ski but similar to the discussion here it just felt like at my weight class that skiing them was just like how Jeff described skiing the Kore 93. But given the lightness, and usefulness following my son through the east coast trees, I have been going back and forth on it! (these would be in addition to my carving ski, Head iSL, and bigger mountain free ride ski, K2 Mindbender 108.
The Kore is an interesting conversation for sure, as it affects certain skiers in certain ways. If you have a carving and a wide, you could always take a look at Black Crows Serpo, Armada Declivity 92, or Salomon Stance 90.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! Great advice as always. I did take the Kore 87s out on a demo day last year and liked them, but only had them for two runs. But man the lightness makes them sooo tempting as a ski to throw around in the trees etc. :)
We will certainly get to women's all-mountain skis. There are many on this wall that have a direct comparison to a women's model, so many of the attributes and characteristics carry directly through to the women's version. Camox Birdie, Sheeva 9 (glass rather than metal underfoot, but otherwise the same), Ripstick 94 regular and Black Edition, Dancer 2X, Ranger 96W, Kore 91W, Mindbender 96C W, Stance W 94, Blaze 94 W, and Secret 96 are all construction twins of the skis on this wall, just with different graphics and size options.
When applicable, and we certainly touched on trees in this video, we'll make our best efforts to point out that a ski excels in these realms. We'll likely hit more on it with mid 80's and ~90 for moguls.
I’ve got the chance to buy the camox at a great discount but haven’t/ will not get the chance to demo them. Do you think they’re easy enough for everyone to get along with that buying them blind is a good idea? Looking to then add one or two other wider skis along side them next season… cheers!
Camox is a great option for skis that you don't have to think about. They are very natural, do many things quite well, and have a high performance ceiling. If you're getting a deal on a Camox, I say take it.
one negative thing with these videos.....I think I am all set and about to pull the trigger on a pair of skis....I watch this video (which I really enjoy btw), and now I looking at an entirely different ski ..... now I am leaning towards the rustler 9's.....lol
Haven't you figured out yet that our main goal is to sell you multiple skis? Just kidding, kind of. There's always a tradeoff, even with something like the Rustler 9. It does a lot of things really well, but isn't the best at one particular aspect. That's kind of the case with a lot of skis in the mid-90's. While they make excellent single skis, there are definitely benefits to going narrower and wider, especially if you have the budget and the desire for your skis to do different things. That said, I'm personally more of a minimalist and prefer one pair of skis, that's why I use the Kore 93 for just about everything. I just don't like thinking about too much out there.
Thanks! I'm taking the Enforcer 94, but not by a whole lot. I find it to be the most useful and versatile of the three, and for me, that's what I like. It's not quite the carver of the Mantra, nor the aggro charger of the Bonafide, rather it sits in the middle with a lot to offer.
Difference between Serpo and Maverick? Release of the tail and smeariness/playfulness that comes with that. And the consistent feeling of the Serpo that you mention
Yup! We're aiming for two twin tip comparisons this year, one from 85 to 96 and the other from 95 to 106. It'll probably be another week or two before either of those happens, but stay tuned!
Thank you for the incredibly helpful content. Really appreciate the discussion of skier weight influencing experience. I’m 6 ft 3 and 260. Ski 70/30 groomers/soft snow. If you had to pick bonefish vs mantra vs kore would you have a pick?
Unfamiliar with Bonefish. Between Kore and Mantra, the Kore is considerably lighter yet just about as stiff. This makes the Mantra feel more stable and powerful in a carved turn while the Kore is more versatile and easier to ski. I also kind of like the Kore in softer snow since it's got a bit more taper and rocker that aid in floating and more playfulness.
I wiould be realy grateful if you guys gave little advide.Blizard rustler 10 or atomic Maverick.I like more playfull ski.That can handle vubration and have preformance in not deep snow but more on the softer side soft and in icy ungroomed conditions.
It sounds to me like you're leaning to the quieter and more stable Rustler. The Maverick is pretty stiff for how light it is and that usually does not indicate stability. Rustler, though, has a denser feel to it while still remaining playful due to the rocker and splay of the tips and tails. I'd lean to the Rustler.
Always appreciate y’all and your in depth reviews. Very interesting. Your experience is invaluable. I’m looking at both the 24 Blizzard Rustler 9 and the 24 Stockli SR 95. Could you briefly compare those two skis for me. I’m 6ft tall 165lbs, not a real hard charger but do enjoy a little turn and burn now and then. Could you comment on the comparison regarding how demanding in variable conditions, off piste, moguls, trees, chop and deeper snow. Irrespective of price. Thanks much.
If you look at the profiles of each ski in our 2024 ski test, it's pretty clear how different they are in the tips and tails. The Rustler is significantly more rockered and splayed than the Stormrider, making it more playful and composed in softer snow, especially when trying to stay afloat. Stormrider prefers to cut through the muck and carve clean turns on the bottom, and it does so with exceptional precision and acumen. There's not much smoother out there than the Stockli. That said, the performance of the Rustler in moguls, trees, and deeper snow is probably more in line with what you're looking to do.
This was really helpful! I’m an advanced skier (no expert by any means), 179cm tall and about 185lbs, always very aggressive on groomers looking to go faster. Upgrading from my 2011 Salomon X Wing 6, skiing about ~75% groomers and 25% bumps/powder/trees. Looking for a one ski quiver that floats a lot better than my X Wings when there’s a powder day, sturdy at higher speeds, won’t get bogged down and fun to carve with, was thinking one of the Enforcer, Ripstick Black or the Mantra, in that 177-180 length range. Also open to other suggestions. Any recommendation would be appreciated!
The nice thing about the Ripstick Black is that it has a high performance ceiling but it isn't as demanding as the Enforcer or Mantra. If you don't mind a heavier ski, the Enforcer/Mantra world is great, but if you want something that's a bit more accessible for most days, I really like the Ripstick Black for this application. I'd go 180 in that ski.
Hi team! I ski since I'm 5 years old (on average 1 week per year). I'm from the Netherlands, so not a local but I feel I'm an advanced skier (I can tackle all conditions). I've always rented my stuff and want my own skis for years but really struggling what to choose. I've done some research and I feel like a mid 90mm ski would fit me. I like to go off-piste but its really 50/50. Also much depending on conditions, 2 years ago it was not possible to go off-piste so for those years I also need a ski that is good on piste. On piste I like medium to high speed, I like carving (but not all the time). After some research I was thinking about the Elan Ripstick 96 (black edition) but after looking into reviews at other websites I really dont know. Some say its 'too much' if its your first set. What would you recommend me?
they make the regular Ripstick 96 as well--less carbon and more approachable than the Black Edition, so I'd at least check that one out. K2 Mindbender 96C is also a great option for a first set--easy to use and will not hold you back!
the problem for the Maverick... there are better options for just about every other type of skiing on the wall, and better overall skis that don't punish you for mistakes
Interestingly, you could say something like that for a lot of skis on this wall, it just depends on your impression of the ski on snow, and what type of application you're going to be using it for most of the time.
Thanks for the great videos! I’m an advanced intermediate aspiring to improve and ski the whole mountain. I ski out west and clock in at 6’ 170lbs. I’m trying to decide on a ski with a good mix of characteristics, but I find damper/smoother skis more confidence inspiring. Do you think the Sender in 178 or Stance in 176 would work for me? Or should I size down? Thanks for answering all these comments, it’s really helpful and I’m sure time consuming.
In the mid-90's those are two of the most well-rounded of the directional skis for sure. I'd say the Rossignol has a bit of an advantage when it comes to dampness and smoothness while the Stance is more energetic. That ski in the 178 would be great. Have fun!
If you can only own one pair, this is the do it all size you want. I've had a 96 for several years and I'm starting to think that owning two pairs is even better... something like an 88 for groomers, and 100-106 for those powder days. Sometimes the mid 90s just compromises all of the characteristics you need. Of course, do we get enough powder days to own that pair on the east?
We talk about that all the time. I own Enforcers 88 and 100, and I'd probably trade them for a 94--I'm more of a simplistic guy. For the snowy days around here, it's pretty rare that something over 100 is imperative, and when it is, it only lasts a few runs. But yes, if a ski can do a lot of things reasonably well, it likely doesn't excel in one particular area. That's the tradeoff.
Thank you guys. Love these reviews. You convinced me to go with the Ripstick over the Black version since I want to get better at quick turns and more moguls. That said , I currently have the Rustler 9 which has the same 96ish underfoot. Thoughts on whether I would see a huge difference if I switch to Elan? Or is my money better spent adding a 100mm to my quiver ?
@@SkiEssentials excellent! Love it. I am thinking the Black Crows (I think the Aptis? Whichever has the wider underfoot). But leaning towards the Faction 3.0. 100 mm. Thanks!!
@@50yearoldskier the Atris is the 105 underfoot ski and it's awesome. I think it has a bit more pop and pep than the Faction while the Faction is more symmetrical and freestyle-oriented.
Hey guys, first of all thank you for this nice comparison. I really cannot decide between the Maverick and the Serpo… I love carving, love being a bit of playful with my skis and enjoy a lightweight ski, but also enjoy some off piste all mountain capabilities - Both seem to be pretty good but which one would you prefer? I live in Europe and we got mixed snow conditions from ice to 20-30 of powder. Or do you even think the Camox or Bent could have enough edge grip while being more playful than both? Thanks in advance!
I personally prefer the Serpo. There's fantastic energy out of the turn and a wonderful feeling from tip to tail. I kind of find the Maverick to be a bit more jittery. If you love carving and playfulness, I'd stick to Serpo and steer away from the Camox or bent--they do not operate the same way on groomers, and if you're in deeper snow, they're all pretty similar.
Been loving the videos, always enjoyable listening to the two of you talk. Quick question, been trying to decide between the new rustler 9s, serpos, or maybe 104 frees. A more freeride oriented ski that will be relatively maneuverable in steep moguls / trees, have good edge hold on hard pack, and still be decent enough on groomers. Leaning towards the new rustlers, I'm on the lighter side (150lbs 5'8") and ski in the east. Or if there are some other skis I should consider. Heading to killington on Sunday to demo a few of them and buy one through you guys!
I think you're right about the Rustler. The Serpo will have a bit more grip and energy on the groomers while the Enforcer moves to the other side of being heavier and more powerful. The Rustler is right in the middle. While we're now past Sunday, I am curious as to what you found in your demo!
@@SkiEssentials Was only able to demo the rustlers and 104, but surprisingly I liked the 104 frees the most especially with the choppy cruddy conditions. The rustlers were nice in the trees and less work overall for carving and just weight in general. The enforcers just inspired so much confidence and even edge to edge I feel like they didn't feel that wide. Got to mess around with mount point on both skis as well and I liked +2 from factory recommended on both.
Look forward to your ski reviews every year. I am 5’8” 180lb 62 yr old skier. Probably off trail 60%. I am currently riding the Bonafide (172cm) and have an old Volkl Gotama (178) for snow days. I am looking for a pair of skis for backside that are not as demanding as the Bonafide but would still like to have some carving ability. Was wondering about Blaze 94 ? What length do you suggest for the Blaze given the Rocker profile? Any other suggestions, even down to a 88 width is a possibility? Appreciate all the advice you guys provide. Thanks and keep doing the videos!
Love the Blaze! Great ski for on and off-trail. I'd go 172 in that ski. While the rocker is long, it's never that dramatic, so it doesn't really affect the feel of the length. On the narrower end, I'd take a look at the Elan Ripstick 88 in the 172 as well--a bit more pop and energy than the Blaze, but still very versatile and fun to ski.
Jeff used the term flickable. Which one on the wall would be flickable for trees but still damp and stable? I have the green Ripstick; definitely flickable but not damp or stable and the Declivity 92Ti which felt catchy; at least for the 2 days I used them so far. My initial thought was the Rossi.
Rossi's not bad--it's not really that quick or agile, so it's not like it's super flickable. But certainly damp and stable! I'd say the Serpo has a lot going on for it here because it's energetic and easy to get from one turn to the next while also still having metal for power.
Love the Review, best all mountain ski review I have seen! Iv been looking at the Atomic Maverick 95 TI, Ripstick 96, and the Head Kore 93 to pick up. Had the opportunity to demo the Maverick 88 TI and definitely enjoyed them but want to see what else is out there. Looking for a great overall ski that I can get into anything with, any advice for a beginner to intermediate that's 6'3 225?
The Ripstick is nice and light--totally mobile and easy to ski yet with a nice performance level that will allow for progression. I also really like the Salomon QST 92 for a pure all-mountain ski.
Always find your videos are so informative and honest. How would this K2 Mindbender C 96 compare in performance and suitability to the K2 Mindbender Ti 89 which you guys have already reviewed but not demoed? Thanks
Thanks! The 96C has more flex in the shovel, so it's a lot easier to turn and engage. The 89 has a stiffer tail, so that ski is going to want to stay locked in the carve a lot more. If you are spending more time in soft snow, bumps, and trees, the 96C is more likely to deliver a better performance, but if you are mainly an on-trail skier who's looking to carve cleaner, the 89 is a smooth ski.
Hey guys, Loved the video! I am looking mainly at the Stance 96 as they suit what I like to ski and I have used previous years. However, I generally ski 180 would you recommend going up or down? Or any other recommendations? I learnt old style so on piste I do short turns with my feet close together and I find too much rocker or head width leads to my ski's catching. So an advanced all mountain ski with not too larger a rocker or tail would be best. I am 183 cm, 160 pounds. Any feedback is really appreciated! (I have also looked at Maverick Rustler Enforcer Ranger and Mantra)
Hi guys! Thank you for yet again another great video. Following you reviews last year I got a Fischer Ranger 96 173 cms (I am 173 tall 70 kgs 50 yrs old aggressive skier) and like it tons (off-piste I am always smiling). Notwithstanding, I miss stability at speed on semi groomed runs (vibration issues; tip seems too loose) and lacking grip on steep icy surfaces (won't get the edge to hold). I am looking for another great all-rounder but with more stability at speed. A very fast skiing friend with love for off-piste as on-piste recommended the Mavericks Ti (88 and 95...?). What would you recommend??
Thank you for this superb video! I'm really struggling to choose between the Rustler 9, the Enforcer 94, and the Stance 96... Objectively, I do a lot of on-trails and love to carve at high speed but I also love not asking questions and going headlong into bumpy piste edges, between trees, small jumps, etc (have fun basically). And I also don't want to lag behind or have too much trouble on days when the fresh snow conditions are superb. I know, it's a lot. I'm about 6'' and weigh 175 lbs. This is my first pair of skis (always rented before) but I think I'm a confirmed skier and I want to progress to the advanced level (I'm only 20yo). What would be your choice? Maybe even another model I've missed? I ski in europe (france) by the way
I think I'd take the Rustler 9s for versatility. But what size to choose? As I'm 182cm tall, I'm hesitating between the 180 and the 186. The spatulas are well raised, so I'd go for the 186, but you say in the video that this doesn't really influence and that they fit their size so I don’t really know
I'd probably at least take the Enforcer off the list, especially if you're leaning Rustler. The Stance is still interesting because it does carve at high speed a lot better than the Rustler does. You're missing out on a bit of maneuverability and softer snow performance in the trees with the Stance, but maybe that's worth the trade for you? If you go Rustler, I'd go 180 over 186.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you so much for your answer. I finally went with Rustler 180 as you recommended. I prefer to start on a more fun ski and it's not likely to be my only pair for much longer anyway :)
What would be your suggestion for a low end intermediate who is buying their first pair? Doesn't need to go fast and likes to be able to turn on a dime.
Which of these do you think would fall most directly in the middle of a blaze 94 and a bonafide? My own both. I'd like to replace the bonified with something lighter and more agile. Rustler? Stance 96? Fx 96? Maverick 95?
I think Rustler is the easy and quick answer here. The other skis have some more directional shape to them, and if you're looking for agility, the Rustler 9 is amazing and still has some pop to it for sure.
I like the metal in the Rustler to handle the firmer conditions. Bent is great, and a lot of fun in the bumps and trees, but if you don't have anything else that has better edge grip, it can feel a bit loose when things get hard around here.
Amazing reviews as always. Would you say the K2 Mindbender 96 C is similar to the QST 98 seeing as they have no metal, have a decent amount of rocker and early taper?
Yes, but there are some differences, too. The QST has a pretty short turn radius and a stiffer flex, especially in the shovel. If you're heavier or more aggressive, I'd lean to the QST just because it has more of a substantive feel and will hold up to more powerful skiing. I'm 225 pounds and definitely felt the K2 flex a bit too much in the shovel for my taste.
Hi guys, I am considering acquiring a new pair of skis. I'd like to ask you what pair of skis you would choose, taking into account my skiing profile. I consider myself more of an advanced than intermediate kind of skier; I weigh 80 kg (175 lbs), I'm 185 cm (6'1") tall, and I'm more of an on-piste skier than off-piste. I was thinking about picking either the M6 mantra, the Blizzard Rustler 9, or the Volkl Blaze 94. Which one of those would you guys recommend choosing, and how high would that ski be? I think a 179cm Blaze 94 (2023) would suit me best. What do you guys think? BTW, I watch a lot of your videos; you guys are doing such great work. Greetings from Spain!
Thanks! You have three interesting options here, with the Mantra as the strongest carver of the group with the Blaze on the other end. Rustler lies in the middle, having enough metal to handle firmer snow while enough shape to take on softer conditions and more versatile terrain. I'd narrow focus to either the Rustler or the Mantra based on your on-piste preference, and then choose depending on how hard you want to work--the Mantra does require a bunch of effort to attain the top end of the performance ceiling while the Rustler is more mid-level in terms of demand. I'd lean to the Rustler in the 174 for a good mix of performance and versatility.
Excellent review. You are great! I have a question. What is the advantage of mantra m6 compared to say Deacon 84. It is constantly mentioned that mantra is not really something in soft snow, and that it needs a lot of hard work. Mantra is surely not a better carver than Deacon, and does that 12mm contribute to anything more/better? I tried Deacon last winter and they really blew me away.
There's no arguing with actual results. If you ski and like the Deacon, then the Mantra really has no place. Some skiers really enjoy having more substance underfoot, especially when it comes to surface area. The Mantra is a great ski in this regard as it provides those skiers with a larger platform to stand on. In softer snow, the wider ski will be able to create higher edge angles and carve cleaner turns with greater confidence. Mainly, with the case of the Mantra, this is on the feet of skilled and strong skiers. If you lack the power or ability to make the ski turn and bend in softer snow, it's going to feel a lot more difficult than the narrower Deacon. But on firm snow, the advantage certainly leans to the narrower ski.
As always... great videos. Best in the business. Stormrider 95 or Enforcer 94? Price is not relevant. I am 45 years old and like to ski hard but am kinda lazy. Ski out west only. I have a powder ski, so looking for a on piste ski that can also go off piste if there is 1-3" of frsh snow. Something good in the trees and not a hassle to jump turn on the steeper stuff. But mostly will be on piste. Thanks in advance.
I forgot to mention that dampness is important to me. I cannot stand the chatter vibrations. Also, I find it annoying when the snow gathers into small sporatic "moguls" later in the day on a groomer. Which one is better with that? Lastly... are they both similar with dampness or is the Stormrider way better? I like to consistently ski between 40-55 mph on groomers.
The Enforcer is a stronger on-piste ski but the Stormrider is more versatile. If you are really consistently between 40 and 55, then the Enforcer will hold up better. That said, the Stockli has a quieter overall sound to it with minimal vibrations and chatter.
Oh yeah, ski comparison season. My second favourite season... after ski season.
After after-ski season. Or fairly equal.
Or fairly equal 😂
My favorite videos are your multi-ski comparisons. I watch them over and over....The most detailed and throughly informative and very well reviewed than anyone on RUclips. I can't wait to watch for your up coming other waist width comparison videos. Great Work Guys!
Thanks! Glad we can provide information and entertainment!
‘And I am Bob. How’s it going’ always makes me smile.
Nobody ever answers, though!
As someone who skis a Bondafide - can definitely agree that for me, ski season is about maintaining all of my power that I build during triathlon season, and the bonafides are still making me work every single day on that mountain, which I love.
The only channel you need regarding comparision
Made my day, guys (I need to get out more, lol)!!! You have a winning formula, please keep it going. Cheers.
More to come!
Spot on with the kore 93: I skied them a lot as an intermediate skier weighing 200+ pounds and I always loved them and never found them too challenging to ski.
Nice! Love a good Kore experience!
What did you like about the kores? Im 6'6 and thinking about 'em
Thanks as always guys, demoed some Ranger 96's earlier this year, 6' around 190lbs and just couldn't really get them to turn just like Bob said, is great having the two points of view.
Good to see Jeff, when I saw Bob did so many 2024 ski reviews I was worried about Jeff quit. Good chemistry between you two. Can’t wait to see mid 80mm and front side review.
Still here! Jeff takes on more of the editing role in the ski test videos during the summer--he put in his studio time, mainly at the top of the alphabet.
Those videos are always great! Glad you're back at it
Glad you like them!
I love this video series.... it's the start of a new ski season that I can't wait for..... I'm already booked for president's week at Beaver creek in Colorado..... Christmas week at Belleayre, Ny... bought my ski passes for Mountain creek and hope to get to Stowe this year..... Good times ahead.... :)
Bonafide description is spot on. I've retired from skiing a bonafide, but when you get that ski on track it destroys everything! What a ski!
Now on K2 mindbender 99ti
Yeah!!!! It's that time of the year!
You guys are amazing and have been a huge factor in my last couple of years’ ski purchases. Thank you! 🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️
Awesome! Glad to hear it!
Nice!! Thanks, Jeff & Bob. Really appreciate your comparison videos.
I love these videos because they give a really good idea of the pros and cons of each ski. With so many different brands and ski types, these videos are extremely helpful in narrowing down the ones that we should probably look at for our usage.
More to come!
@@SkiEssentials thank you for your efforts. It is VERY helpful.
Tis the season fellas! Jealous of y’all that live in the mountains, thanks for another year of reviews 👊🏼
I like how you guys added your choice for the one ski quiver in this category I think you guys should do that every video
Another great comparison! Thanks guys!
Great stuff gents! Way to start the new season. Just need some snow now. Y’all have been busy! Excited to see the comparison videos, but their all great!
Ha ha. I was just doing some research on my own this afternoon on mid 90’s all mountain skis(instead of working). I was wondering when you guys were going to put out this video and save me a lot of time.
Great videos and comparisons. gives me something to look forward to during daaaark northern autumns. i am just jealous of your work!
Thanks so much and happy viewing!
Loving Bob embracing dad ski mode in his professional opinion as well as his life.
Ha! When it comes to skiing, it's tough to separate personal and professional these days!
I Skied the 90C in Telluride early season when the snow wasn't deep and thought it was a lot of fun on firmer bumps. I'm only 5'10 though so the 177 was great
Thanks dudes!
Super awesome reviews. Just sublime info delivered with in depth knowledge. The comparison between weight/strength of skier and more precise technique is the icing on the cake. Thank you! :)
Thank you for the kind words, and we are certainly hopeful that the differences in skier and skier type come through, as we are not all the same!
Cool review, it took me 3 efforts to watch the video from start to finish and I feel pretty setisfied. Thanks guys!
Good job! That's how I feel watching a movie with my kids!
That’s how I do it! Watch a few skis as I’m going to sleep, or when I’m getting ready for work
I bought blaze on strength of this review. Been skiing great, impressed with my conditioning this year and uptick in my mogul skiing. Skied with a buddy yesterday, who is on my old enforcer 94. We swapped skis for a run. Turns out my conditioning and mogul skiing are not getting better, the enforcer 94 is just an exhausting, heavy, carve happy lead sled. Glad the world has moved to everybody carving steep blues. Keeps all you folks who can't ski moguls and trees off the good runs.
Good stuff!
I'm glad to see the Mantras came out on top. Haven't tried new ones in a few years, but I've been rocking Mantras for years now, and I love mine. My friend thinks they are a bit too stiff for him as a powder ski, but I'm a big guy, so I have no problems with the stiffness. If I'm skiing perfect corduroy, I'll strap on a pair of race skis, or even my classic pair of Volant Platinums, but for literally everything else, I'm on the Mantras.
The boys are back!
I was waiting for this video the whole year! Good to see you again and thanks for a great review!
Thanks so much! Hope you liked it and found something to key in on!
Im not even in the market for skis & i watched this review. Luv your guys insight & opinions. This was my market last yr coming back to skiing after 20yr break. Got to demo oblivion 94, volkl deacon 84, kanjo 86 @ our local resort i even tried the mantra m6 which were too tiring for me being out of shape & practice. I bought the Unleashed 98s & love them for my 1 ski west coast quiver. I just scored a set of mindbender 85 on sale from you for the wife from you too. You guys are top notch!!
Ha! Thanks so much, we think it's a great way to spend two hours! Unleashed is such a great ski--they really nailed it.
Would love to see you guys work some smaller brands into these videos as well! I'd love to see how the Commander 92's from Moment fit on this list.
We've been trying to get smaller brands involved in content, but the return for us isn't as great since we don't sell Moment on our site. Liberty, Line, Faction, even Black Crows are small(er) than some of the big brands, and whenever we see an opportunity to get on more independent skis, we certainly jump at that chance.
Like Black Crows and Faction, Moment is a brand that people will buy IF you sell them. Also, how is Line a small brand; they are owned by K2, and have been doing this for almost 30 years?@@SkiEssentials
@@SkiEssentialsI asked Moment and it sounds like they would be very interested to work with you guys if you were interested and thought the partnership would work well for both of you. They said if anyone from Ski Essentials contacted them they’d be interested.
Yea, been waiting for this. So much great info!
Thanks so much! We'll have more soon!
Maverick 95 for the win, favorite ski this year 🎉
Awesome! Very crisp and precise!
I‘ve been skiing a bonafide for the last 5 years. Such a good ski. I‘ve never missed playfulness when I skied it. It is just so stable in any conditions. For me it even works in powder and bumps. But, I just ordered a camox for fun days on groomers.
I think you'll love the snappy energy of the Camox, have fun!
Your videos are great!
First of all, thank you for these awesome videos, best ski videos on You Tube. I love the Atomic Maverick graphics. I also really like the sounds of the Maverick as a one ski quiver for east coast ski. Currently I have 2 skis. Blizzard Quattro Ti 8.0 for front side groomers that tend to get too heavy/stiff at the end of a hard day and does not like to absorb end of day curd, but awesome at high speed craves and can hold an edge on hardest of surfaces. DPS Waiver 99, which is super lightweight fun ski with tons of floatation and great for spring skiing but just skids on anything remotely hard packed. I wonder if the Maverick could bridge these two, thoughts?
I want to echo your comments on the Bonafide. I rented them once out west. The snow was actually firm (just my luck, east coast snow). The shop recommended them. It took me about half the day to realize you have to ski full throttle 100% of time. They love and need to be driven hard.
Bonafide and Brahma certainly like to be brought up to speed in order to become active, especially in longer lengths. For the Maverick, I do think the light weight is balanced well by the metallic dampness. You get a good blend of energy like the Wailer and grip like the Quattro. Even though Maverick and Wailer are similar in length, they are very different skis in terms of character. I'd put the Stance 96 right there with it in terms of blending maneuverable weight and sturdy construction.
excellent refresh for the Ripstick Black top sheet graphics.
It's subtle, but it's clean!
Ok guys watched this video about 8 times now. Demoed more skis and I think it's time for more damp skis. So between the Mantra M6 and Storm rider 95 what are your thoughts? Need to rail groomers at speed, crush chop/crud, little bit of bumps, steeps and back bowls under 5 inches of mashed potatoes. Rustler 11 for over 6 inches plus days. Thx as always, the best in the biz!!! Keep it up guys
While the Mantra operates at a very high level of performance for all of these attributes you're looking for, the Stormrider is a lot easier to access MOST of those things, just not at the same high level. Personally, I'd take the Stockli because I just don't want to work as hard and I don't need that tip top level, rather I prefer the smoothness, silence, and poise of the Stockli.
Only thing y’all need are some Moments
I had a moment once.
In the 90mm range? Moment are great mountain destroyers but let's not kid ourselves and overhype them
The Commander 92 looks fun and interesting!
Agreed, I said this as well. In the women’s category, the Sierras are around 95 mm width, and the Commanders come in 92. The Hot Mess skis go down to mid 80 range.
AT last years skis test i really enjoyed the FX 96 and and the mantra need to try the nordica this year!
Yippeeeeee! Love these!
thank you, guys, well done!
Thanks so much! Any winners for you on this list?
I am still between Stormrider 9 and Mantra M6 :) The first is nice, but I can see really tempting prices for the last year’s Mantra M6. BTW: always looking forward to watch these videos. @@SkiEssentials
@@SkiEssentials I am a happy owner Mantra M6 (22/23) now, could not resist the price ☺
Keep on going guys!
Ok!
I am a 20-ish HDCP GS & Slalom racer and LOVE my 2019 Bonafide 184s for fun time when I put my race skis up. I was seeking a lighter ski for out west so picked up a pair of Head KORE 105's in the 177 length. I skied them in Jackson Hole for the first time. They are great skis but may be almost TOO similar to the Bonafides. Great on piste & crude busting and far easier on the legs due to the lighter weight but way too stiff in steeps and large moguls as they simply can't be slowed down in those conditions and can launch HARD if pressed (I am 5'10" and 225lbs). I am now in search of something "softer" in tip and tails that is also light weight to replace the KORE 105s for thigh-high POW, trees and deep moguls for my January Telluride trip. Would love some recommendations
I'd take a look at Rossignol's Sender 104 Ti. Uses the Air Tip Tech so it is lighter in the front but still floaty and turny throughout. Elan Ripstick 106 Black Edition should be at the top of the list as well. Have fun!
would love to see the 80 (80-82) frontside/all mountain comparison next.
We're going to go wider before that one, but rest assured, we have a wonderful selection of 80's set and ready to go!
Alright gents, ready to pull trigger at SE (was actually shopping at Basin in Killington this weekend, hadnt realized its yours now! Great spot!) Been on Camox 174 for three years. 5'9 180 advanced. Looking for more pop carving, an easier going tail. Confident charging groomers, less confident and looking to make progression in trees, bumps, mixed snow easier. Bliz R9? Ripstick? Something else?
The Rustler 9 is such an easy ski to recommend for this application because it really does everything well. I'd go that route and not look back!
Loved the Kastle FX96 when I demo'd in 22/23 in Jackson Hole.
Nice! Seems like it'd be a good mix of on and off-trail performance in a place like that!
I clicked on this video so fast, when I saw it
I love my Head Kore 93! I have a ton of fun every time I take them out it's a great choice as an all mountain / freeride ski. I'm 5ft.11in. 230lb advanced and hard charging New England skier I have the Kore 93 177cm. I do sometimes wish I got the 184cm but like Bob said the Kore 93 is a strong enough ski to size down with no issue. The 177 is faster edge to edge while still being strong and stable enough for me to charge pretty hard. The stiffer flex from the multilayer carbon construction combined with serious camber underfoot allows the ski to get on edge and carve with a reaction to very little input with precision. It's a strong ski that shoots you out of each turn with minimal energy input and only increases the harder you push it. Add the fact that it's incredibly light on your feet and has the shape to float pretty well in soft snow and it's easy to see why it's a fun ski no matter the conditions. Some negatives of the Kore 93 and it's carbon construction are that it can be a bit twitchy and noisy at high speed, and it can be hard to handle in bumps and firm choppy snow.
I think this is very spot-on feedback! Thanks for sharing!
@@SkiEssentials Thanks I love your channel it provides tremendous value to skiers.
1:23:31 Great hearing your thoughts on ski lengths and sizing up/down. Do you think sizing down is starting to be or will become more common?
It's an interesting conversation for sure, and the only thing I've become more confident with is that each ski brings its own personality to the table, and there's no one magic calculator for determining ski length. I've generally found that the wider and more burly the ski, the more comfortable it becomes to size down. I run into issues with skis like the Serpo, which is strong and stable, but I don't think 180 is quite enough for me, so I opt for the 186. I used to think Kendo in the 184 was on the short side, but now I have a blast on the 177, even. But Ripstick Black in a 180? Forget it--need that 188 in that ski because the shovels are on the softer side.
@@SkiEssentials thats interesting thanks for sharing! I guess that’s why you need to try them out to find what you like and don’t
Amazing video, you guys are awesome! Only thing I’d ask for is a “who this is for” bit for all the skis 😬
Seriously solid vid tho, great work!! 🙌🏼😎
Thank you! We do address the Who is it For aspect in the written article that accompanies this video. Sometimes the flow of the conversation takes us away, but I do agree that it is a very important aspect.
Thanks for all the info 🤯🤟
Any time!
Great video guys!
All you said about Rustler 9 is completely what I'm looking for in a ski (versatility, playfull, partial twin tips, fine carving performance). However, the price tag is a bit spicy for me - especially since (if I'm lucky) I get two weeks of skiing every year. Can you pint point me to a similar ski, but with a bit more friendly price tag - maybe an older model?
Thanks!
Nice blend of value and performance in these two:
www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-k2-poacher-ski?ski%2520size=163
www.skiessentials.com/products/2024-volkl-revolt-96-ski-2310153?ski%2520size=157
Can you go into more detail on how the BC Serpo and Blizzard Rustler 9 compare? Specifically for east coast application? Im looking for something with strong edge grip for ice/firm snow as well as versatile enough to dive into trees or moguls on a whim. I don’t need to prioritize float since I have a pair of QST 106s.
Sounds like you're leaning to the Serpo--that ski is a lot more satisfying in an on-trail and groomed format. The effective edge is longer than the Rustler, so it's a smoother overall feel. There's not as much rocker or taper, giving it a more direct level of responsiveness to the snow. It's also not too shabby in bumps and trees. Even though the 106 is 10 mm wider than the Rustler 9, they still have similar styles and characteristics--the Serpo will offer a greater difference.
It is beginning to look a lot like Christmas;)
My 3 that I would like to try even before you get into your comparison would be 1. Atomic Maverick TI 2. Kastle 96 TI 3. Volkl M6 Mantra.. Let the show begin..
O I C U trying to get me on a Serpo.. It does sound like I would like that ski..
My first 6 runs are groomers and I am sure I could handle a Bonafide for those.. Then I go up into the bowls.. If the snow is good hardpack I am sure that I would do fine but if it got grippy snow or washboard crud then I can see a problem.. I am afraid of commitment;) You guys should have 1 word that describe every ski...
I would feel more comfortable with using the Rustler in the bowls..
When I think of carbon I do not think of dampness..
Because of your videos I buy all my skis from ski essentials. Sure it would be easier to go to a christy sports or something, but just to support you guys. thanks for the videos!
That is awesome!
recs out of this list for a PNW ski? get some heavier snow, skiing lots of trees, and often soft snow. the head skis seemed really interesting to me. but basically something a little more burly to get through some heavier chop
The metallic skis will feel more stable through crud and chop. Kore is great, but can get tossed because it's pretty light. I'd take a look at the Rustler 9 for something very playful, while the Stormrider 95 has more smoothness and directional carving capabilities. Sure, it comes with a higher price, but it's an amazing product.
Hello, love these comparisons!
I'm in the process of buying new skis, but not sure what to go for. I would say that I'm an advanced/expert skier. 6'3 long and 80-85kg. I mostly love to ski in powder and offpist, which I would do all of the time if possible. But due to conditions where I live, I usually find myself in the pist carving. Sometimes on ice as well.
I've been skiing on some Nordica speed machines from 2011 (178cm) until now, which works well in the pists but feel a bit clumsy of pist (and don't really float). Tried some K2 106C this season on a powder day which I loved, but I think I want them to be just a little more suitable for the slopes. What I have been looking at the most is Salomon QTS98, Salomon QTS92, Salomon Stance 96 and K2 96C. Which ones do you think would fit me the best, and what length?
Great work with the reviews!
I think it's telling that you liked the 106C, and the move to the 96C makes good sense. This allows for a similar feel in the softer snow and trees but a better on-trail experience as well. I think the QST 92 fits in well here, too, but the Stance is a bit stiff and the 98 is maybe on the wide/heavy side. Great mobility and grip with the QST 92! I'd say the 176 in the QST or the 178 in the 96C are the way to go.
@@SkiEssentialsThanks a lot!
Since you asked for comparisons:
How about building a spectrum from in-bounds skis with touring capability to touring skis with in-bounds capability...?
While we do include some hybrid skis within these comparisons, the touring series will definitely highlight the in and out of bounds capabilities of similarly branded skis. It's on the list for sure.
I'm with Bob 100% on the Ranger...I loved it in theory, and in practice it was almost immediately not for me at all.. that was a bummer for sure.
I also really enjoyed the older 94 FR, 92 Ti, and especially the 99Ti Rangers, so going to the new 96 was tough.
@@SkiEssentials I had to laugh at the "why doesn't this ski turn" comment. I had two near bail out moments at Stratton on them where I literally went to a solute edge of the trail because I grossly underestimated the seeming non existent turning radius.
I too like the 92ti, Ive got them in my rack and what a different ski entirely.
@@scottbryant9425 May I ask if you're a bigger guy like Bob?
@@taziokastelic_films I am sir yes. 6'3" and 235lbs, but I'm no where near as skilled a skier as Bob. These guys give some really sound advice, best in the industry, hands down.
@@scottbryant9425 Interesting how weight dependent the ranger 96 seems to be, what length did you ski?
Thank you guys! It is really great! Could you choose top 3-4 skis that have better flotation then other from this list?
Thanks! I think that for soft and deep snow, the Liberty, K2, Blaze, Rustler, and Line are all right up there. That's 5, sorry. Of those, in deep snow, I'd choose the Liberty.
Great Review as always, Do you think Elan will change up the 96 Black next year? And what do you think about the 2024 Rustler 9 vs 96 Ripstick Black Edition? I would like Elan to stiffen up the tip a touch.
We have not received official word about those changes for next year, but typically skis do change after a 2-3 year run. I, too, would like to see a sturdier shovel in the Ripstick, especially in the Black Edition. I'd rather ski the Ripstick Black in groomers and carved turns more than the Rustler, while the Rustler is a smoother performer in the trees and powder, mainly due to the tail rocker. The tail of the Elan is pretty flat and responsive, relative to that of the Rustler 9.
Interesting discussion on the Head Kore. I am on the fence on getting a Kore 87, as I am 155lbs (built like Jeff) and have been on the fence because of the stiffness. I used to have a pair of Head Monster 98s, and they were an incredible ski but similar to the discussion here it just felt like at my weight class that skiing them was just like how Jeff described skiing the Kore 93. But given the lightness, and usefulness following my son through the east coast trees, I have been going back and forth on it! (these would be in addition to my carving ski, Head iSL, and bigger mountain free ride ski, K2 Mindbender 108.
The Kore is an interesting conversation for sure, as it affects certain skiers in certain ways. If you have a carving and a wide, you could always take a look at Black Crows Serpo, Armada Declivity 92, or Salomon Stance 90.
@@SkiEssentials thanks! Great advice as always. I did take the Kore 87s out on a demo day last year and liked them, but only had them for two runs. But man the lightness makes them sooo tempting as a ski to throw around in the trees etc. :)
Why is Armada Declivity 92 not in this comp? Thought you guys love it??
For 2024, we considered the Declivity ~90 not mid-90:
ruclips.net/video/yG7DCDFhZ5M/видео.html
And yes, love it.
I have been waiting for woman all mountain skis
We will certainly get to women's all-mountain skis. There are many on this wall that have a direct comparison to a women's model, so many of the attributes and characteristics carry directly through to the women's version. Camox Birdie, Sheeva 9 (glass rather than metal underfoot, but otherwise the same), Ripstick 94 regular and Black Edition, Dancer 2X, Ranger 96W, Kore 91W, Mindbender 96C W, Stance W 94, Blaze 94 W, and Secret 96 are all construction twins of the skis on this wall, just with different graphics and size options.
Your ski comparisons are great! I really appreciate them. Can you make one for bump and tree skiing? Thank you!
When applicable, and we certainly touched on trees in this video, we'll make our best efforts to point out that a ski excels in these realms. We'll likely hit more on it with mid 80's and ~90 for moguls.
I’ve got the chance to buy the camox at a great discount but haven’t/ will not get the chance to demo them. Do you think they’re easy enough for everyone to get along with that buying them blind is a good idea?
Looking to then add one or two other wider skis along side them next season… cheers!
Camox is a great option for skis that you don't have to think about. They are very natural, do many things quite well, and have a high performance ceiling. If you're getting a deal on a Camox, I say take it.
one negative thing with these videos.....I think I am all set and about to pull the trigger on a pair of skis....I watch this video (which I really enjoy btw), and now I looking at an entirely different ski ..... now I am leaning towards the rustler 9's.....lol
Haven't you figured out yet that our main goal is to sell you multiple skis? Just kidding, kind of. There's always a tradeoff, even with something like the Rustler 9. It does a lot of things really well, but isn't the best at one particular aspect. That's kind of the case with a lot of skis in the mid-90's. While they make excellent single skis, there are definitely benefits to going narrower and wider, especially if you have the budget and the desire for your skis to do different things. That said, I'm personally more of a minimalist and prefer one pair of skis, that's why I use the Kore 93 for just about everything. I just don't like thinking about too much out there.
Bonafide, enforcer, mantra, which one are you guys goin with? Love the video boys!!!
Thanks!
I'm taking the Enforcer 94, but not by a whole lot. I find it to be the most useful and versatile of the three, and for me, that's what I like. It's not quite the carver of the Mantra, nor the aggro charger of the Bonafide, rather it sits in the middle with a lot to offer.
Difference between Serpo and Maverick? Release of the tail and smeariness/playfulness that comes with that. And the consistent feeling of the Serpo that you mention
Totally. I'd add that the Serpo's turns feel rounder in nature. I'd also rather ski the Serpo in any off-trail capacity, bumps or trees.
Hey guys I love the multi-ski comparison videos.
Are you also doing a Mid-90mm Twin tip comparison like last year?
Yup! We're aiming for two twin tip comparisons this year, one from 85 to 96 and the other from 95 to 106. It'll probably be another week or two before either of those happens, but stay tuned!
Thank you for the incredibly helpful content. Really appreciate the discussion of skier weight influencing experience. I’m 6 ft 3 and 260. Ski 70/30 groomers/soft snow. If you had to pick bonefish vs mantra vs kore would you have a pick?
Unfamiliar with Bonefish. Between Kore and Mantra, the Kore is considerably lighter yet just about as stiff. This makes the Mantra feel more stable and powerful in a carved turn while the Kore is more versatile and easier to ski. I also kind of like the Kore in softer snow since it's got a bit more taper and rocker that aid in floating and more playfulness.
I wiould be realy grateful if you guys gave little advide.Blizard rustler 10 or atomic Maverick.I like more playfull ski.That can handle vubration and have preformance in not deep snow but more on the softer side soft and in icy ungroomed conditions.
It sounds to me like you're leaning to the quieter and more stable Rustler. The Maverick is pretty stiff for how light it is and that usually does not indicate stability. Rustler, though, has a denser feel to it while still remaining playful due to the rocker and splay of the tips and tails. I'd lean to the Rustler.
Always appreciate y’all and your in depth reviews. Very interesting. Your experience is invaluable. I’m looking at both the 24 Blizzard Rustler 9 and the 24 Stockli SR 95. Could you briefly compare those two skis for me. I’m 6ft tall 165lbs, not a real hard charger but do enjoy a little turn and burn now and then. Could you comment on the comparison regarding how demanding in variable conditions, off piste, moguls, trees, chop and deeper snow. Irrespective of price. Thanks much.
If you look at the profiles of each ski in our 2024 ski test, it's pretty clear how different they are in the tips and tails. The Rustler is significantly more rockered and splayed than the Stormrider, making it more playful and composed in softer snow, especially when trying to stay afloat. Stormrider prefers to cut through the muck and carve clean turns on the bottom, and it does so with exceptional precision and acumen. There's not much smoother out there than the Stockli. That said, the performance of the Rustler in moguls, trees, and deeper snow is probably more in line with what you're looking to do.
This was really helpful! I’m an advanced skier (no expert by any means), 179cm tall and about 185lbs, always very aggressive on groomers looking to go faster. Upgrading from my 2011 Salomon X Wing 6, skiing about ~75% groomers and 25% bumps/powder/trees. Looking for a one ski quiver that floats a lot better than my X Wings when there’s a powder day, sturdy at higher speeds, won’t get bogged down and fun to carve with, was thinking one of the Enforcer, Ripstick Black or the Mantra, in that 177-180 length range. Also open to other suggestions. Any recommendation would be appreciated!
The nice thing about the Ripstick Black is that it has a high performance ceiling but it isn't as demanding as the Enforcer or Mantra. If you don't mind a heavier ski, the Enforcer/Mantra world is great, but if you want something that's a bit more accessible for most days, I really like the Ripstick Black for this application. I'd go 180 in that ski.
Hi team! I ski since I'm 5 years old (on average 1 week per year). I'm from the Netherlands, so not a local but I feel I'm an advanced skier (I can tackle all conditions). I've always rented my stuff and want my own skis for years but really struggling what to choose. I've done some research and I feel like a mid 90mm ski would fit me. I like to go off-piste but its really 50/50. Also much depending on conditions, 2 years ago it was not possible to go off-piste so for those years I also need a ski that is good on piste. On piste I like medium to high speed, I like carving (but not all the time). After some research I was thinking about the Elan Ripstick 96 (black edition) but after looking into reviews at other websites I really dont know. Some say its 'too much' if its your first set. What would you recommend me?
they make the regular Ripstick 96 as well--less carbon and more approachable than the Black Edition, so I'd at least check that one out. K2 Mindbender 96C is also a great option for a first set--easy to use and will not hold you back!
the problem for the Maverick... there are better options for just about every other type of skiing on the wall, and better overall skis that don't punish you for mistakes
Interestingly, you could say something like that for a lot of skis on this wall, it just depends on your impression of the ski on snow, and what type of application you're going to be using it for most of the time.
Thanks for the great videos! I’m an advanced intermediate aspiring to improve and ski the whole mountain. I ski out west and clock in at 6’ 170lbs. I’m trying to decide on a ski with a good mix of characteristics, but I find damper/smoother skis more confidence inspiring. Do you think the Sender in 178 or Stance in 176 would work for me? Or should I size down? Thanks for answering all these comments, it’s really helpful and I’m sure time consuming.
In the mid-90's those are two of the most well-rounded of the directional skis for sure. I'd say the Rossignol has a bit of an advantage when it comes to dampness and smoothness while the Stance is more energetic. That ski in the 178 would be great. Have fun!
If you can only own one pair, this is the do it all size you want. I've had a 96 for several years and I'm starting to think that owning two pairs is even better... something like an 88 for groomers, and 100-106 for those powder days. Sometimes the mid 90s just compromises all of the characteristics you need. Of course, do we get enough powder days to own that pair on the east?
We talk about that all the time. I own Enforcers 88 and 100, and I'd probably trade them for a 94--I'm more of a simplistic guy. For the snowy days around here, it's pretty rare that something over 100 is imperative, and when it is, it only lasts a few runs. But yes, if a ski can do a lot of things reasonably well, it likely doesn't excel in one particular area. That's the tradeoff.
Thank you guys. Love these reviews. You convinced me to go with the Ripstick over the Black version since I want to get better at quick turns and more moguls. That said , I currently have the Rustler 9 which has the same 96ish underfoot. Thoughts on whether I would see a huge difference if I switch to Elan? Or is my money better spent adding a 100mm to my quiver ?
I'd go wider and look to something in the 100mm range. I think there's too much overlap here. Any options interest you in the wider range?
@@SkiEssentials excellent! Love it. I am thinking the Black Crows (I think the Aptis? Whichever has the wider underfoot). But leaning towards the Faction 3.0. 100 mm. Thanks!!
@@50yearoldskier the Atris is the 105 underfoot ski and it's awesome. I think it has a bit more pop and pep than the Faction while the Faction is more symmetrical and freestyle-oriented.
Hey guys, first of all thank you for this nice comparison. I really cannot decide between the Maverick and the Serpo… I love carving, love being a bit of playful with my skis and enjoy a lightweight ski, but also enjoy some off piste all mountain capabilities - Both seem to be pretty good but which one would you prefer? I live in Europe and we got mixed snow conditions from ice to 20-30 of powder. Or do you even think the Camox or Bent could have enough edge grip while being more playful than both?
Thanks in advance!
I personally prefer the Serpo. There's fantastic energy out of the turn and a wonderful feeling from tip to tail. I kind of find the Maverick to be a bit more jittery. If you love carving and playfulness, I'd stick to Serpo and steer away from the Camox or bent--they do not operate the same way on groomers, and if you're in deeper snow, they're all pretty similar.
Been loving the videos, always enjoyable listening to the two of you talk. Quick question, been trying to decide between the new rustler 9s, serpos, or maybe 104 frees. A more freeride oriented ski that will be relatively maneuverable in steep moguls / trees, have good edge hold on hard pack, and still be decent enough on groomers. Leaning towards the new rustlers, I'm on the lighter side (150lbs 5'8") and ski in the east. Or if there are some other skis I should consider. Heading to killington on Sunday to demo a few of them and buy one through you guys!
I think you're right about the Rustler. The Serpo will have a bit more grip and energy on the groomers while the Enforcer moves to the other side of being heavier and more powerful. The Rustler is right in the middle. While we're now past Sunday, I am curious as to what you found in your demo!
@@SkiEssentials Was only able to demo the rustlers and 104, but surprisingly I liked the 104 frees the most especially with the choppy cruddy conditions. The rustlers were nice in the trees and less work overall for carving and just weight in general. The enforcers just inspired so much confidence and even edge to edge I feel like they didn't feel that wide. Got to mess around with mount point on both skis as well and I liked +2 from factory recommended on both.
Look forward to your ski reviews every year. I am 5’8” 180lb 62 yr old skier. Probably off trail 60%. I am currently riding the Bonafide (172cm) and have an old Volkl Gotama (178) for snow days. I am looking for a pair of skis for backside that are not as demanding as the Bonafide but would still like to have some carving ability. Was wondering about Blaze 94 ? What length do you suggest for the Blaze given the Rocker profile? Any other suggestions, even down to a 88 width is a possibility? Appreciate all the advice you guys provide. Thanks and keep doing the videos!
Love the Blaze! Great ski for on and off-trail. I'd go 172 in that ski. While the rocker is long, it's never that dramatic, so it doesn't really affect the feel of the length. On the narrower end, I'd take a look at the Elan Ripstick 88 in the 172 as well--a bit more pop and energy than the Blaze, but still very versatile and fun to ski.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks for reply. On the narrow end how would you compare the Ripstick 88 to Stormrider 88 ,as came across used SR 88?
Jeff used the term flickable. Which one on the wall would be flickable for trees but still damp and stable? I have the green Ripstick; definitely flickable but not damp or stable and the Declivity 92Ti which felt catchy; at least for the 2 days I used them so far. My initial thought was the Rossi.
Rossi's not bad--it's not really that quick or agile, so it's not like it's super flickable. But certainly damp and stable! I'd say the Serpo has a lot going on for it here because it's energetic and easy to get from one turn to the next while also still having metal for power.
Love the Review, best all mountain ski review I have seen! Iv been looking at the Atomic Maverick 95 TI, Ripstick 96, and the Head Kore 93 to pick up. Had the opportunity to demo the Maverick 88 TI and definitely enjoyed them but want to see what else is out there. Looking for a great overall ski that I can get into anything with, any advice for a beginner to intermediate that's 6'3 225?
The Ripstick is nice and light--totally mobile and easy to ski yet with a nice performance level that will allow for progression. I also really like the Salomon QST 92 for a pure all-mountain ski.
are the kore 93s and the maverick 95 TIs too stiff of a ski for progression? Should I also look at Ripstick 96 black edition?@@SkiEssentials
Always find your videos are so informative and honest. How would this K2 Mindbender C 96 compare in performance and suitability to the K2 Mindbender Ti 89 which you guys have already reviewed but not demoed? Thanks
Thanks! The 96C has more flex in the shovel, so it's a lot easier to turn and engage. The 89 has a stiffer tail, so that ski is going to want to stay locked in the carve a lot more. If you are spending more time in soft snow, bumps, and trees, the 96C is more likely to deliver a better performance, but if you are mainly an on-trail skier who's looking to carve cleaner, the 89 is a smooth ski.
thanks an Ontario skier so seems like the 89 is my best bet!@@SkiEssentials
Hey guys, Loved the video!
I am looking mainly at the Stance 96 as they suit what I like to ski and I have used previous years. However, I generally ski 180 would you recommend going up or down? Or any other recommendations? I learnt old style so on piste I do short turns with my feet close together and I find too much rocker or head width leads to my ski's catching. So an advanced all mountain ski with not too larger a rocker or tail would be best. I am 183 cm, 160 pounds. Any feedback is really appreciated! (I have also looked at Maverick Rustler Enforcer Ranger and Mantra)
I'd go with the 182 in that ski if you're used to the 180's. It's a great ski, more similar to the Maverick 95, but a lot more interesting!
Thank you very much guys! Incredibly helpful@@SkiEssentials
Hi guys! Thank you for yet again another great video. Following you reviews last year I got a Fischer Ranger 96 173 cms (I am 173 tall 70 kgs 50 yrs old aggressive skier) and like it tons (off-piste I am always smiling). Notwithstanding, I miss stability at speed on semi groomed runs (vibration issues; tip seems too loose) and lacking grip on steep icy surfaces (won't get the edge to hold). I am looking for another great all-rounder but with more stability at speed. A very fast skiing friend with love for off-piste as on-piste recommended the Mavericks Ti (88 and 95...?). What would you recommend??
I think the 88's are a great place to be. If you're looking for a bit more Stability, the Volkl Kendo is a perennial favorite in the 88 range.
Thank you for this superb video!
I'm really struggling to choose between the Rustler 9, the Enforcer 94, and the Stance 96... Objectively, I do a lot of on-trails and love to carve at high speed but I also love not asking questions and going headlong into bumpy piste edges, between trees, small jumps, etc (have fun basically). And I also don't want to lag behind or have too much trouble on days when the fresh snow conditions are superb. I know, it's a lot. I'm about 6'' and weigh 175 lbs. This is my first pair of skis (always rented before) but I think I'm a confirmed skier and I want to progress to the advanced level (I'm only 20yo). What would be your choice? Maybe even another model I've missed? I ski in europe (france) by the way
I think I'd take the Rustler 9s for versatility. But what size to choose? As I'm 182cm tall, I'm hesitating between the 180 and the 186. The spatulas are well raised, so I'd go for the 186, but you say in the video that this doesn't really influence and that they fit their size so I don’t really know
I'd probably at least take the Enforcer off the list, especially if you're leaning Rustler. The Stance is still interesting because it does carve at high speed a lot better than the Rustler does. You're missing out on a bit of maneuverability and softer snow performance in the trees with the Stance, but maybe that's worth the trade for you? If you go Rustler, I'd go 180 over 186.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you so much for your answer. I finally went with Rustler 180 as you recommended. I prefer to start on a more fun ski and it's not likely to be my only pair for much longer anyway :)
What would be your suggestion for a low end intermediate who is buying their first pair? Doesn't need to go fast and likes to be able to turn on a dime.
Maybe go a bit narrower? Rossignol Experience 86 Basalt or Head Shape E-V10 are great skis for this style and application.
BEST TOP 2 SKIS ON THIS WHOLE WALL ARE 1 STOCKLI SR 95 and 2 KASTLE FX 96 TI . THESE ARE WAY BEYOND ANY OF THE OTHER SKIIS. ❤❤❤❤❤
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Which of these do you think would fall most directly in the middle of a blaze 94 and a bonafide? My own both. I'd like to replace the bonified with something lighter and more agile.
Rustler? Stance 96? Fx 96? Maverick 95?
I think Rustler is the easy and quick answer here. The other skis have some more directional shape to them, and if you're looking for agility, the Rustler 9 is amazing and still has some pop to it for sure.
Between the 2024 Rustler 9 or the 2024 Bent 90s which ones would you pick for the best all mountain for east coast Canada?
I like the metal in the Rustler to handle the firmer conditions. Bent is great, and a lot of fun in the bumps and trees, but if you don't have anything else that has better edge grip, it can feel a bit loose when things get hard around here.
Amazing reviews as always. Would you say the K2 Mindbender 96 C is similar to the QST 98 seeing as they have no metal, have a decent amount of rocker and early taper?
Yes, but there are some differences, too. The QST has a pretty short turn radius and a stiffer flex, especially in the shovel. If you're heavier or more aggressive, I'd lean to the QST just because it has more of a substantive feel and will hold up to more powerful skiing. I'm 225 pounds and definitely felt the K2 flex a bit too much in the shovel for my taste.
Hi guys, I am considering acquiring a new pair of skis. I'd like to ask you what pair of skis you would choose, taking into account my skiing profile. I consider myself more of an advanced than intermediate kind of skier; I weigh 80 kg (175 lbs), I'm 185 cm (6'1") tall, and I'm more of an on-piste skier than off-piste.
I was thinking about picking either the M6 mantra, the Blizzard Rustler 9, or the Volkl Blaze 94. Which one of those would you guys recommend choosing, and how high would that ski be? I think a 179cm Blaze 94 (2023) would suit me best. What do you guys think?
BTW, I watch a lot of your videos; you guys are doing such great work. Greetings from Spain!
Thanks!
You have three interesting options here, with the Mantra as the strongest carver of the group with the Blaze on the other end. Rustler lies in the middle, having enough metal to handle firmer snow while enough shape to take on softer conditions and more versatile terrain. I'd narrow focus to either the Rustler or the Mantra based on your on-piste preference, and then choose depending on how hard you want to work--the Mantra does require a bunch of effort to attain the top end of the performance ceiling while the Rustler is more mid-level in terms of demand. I'd lean to the Rustler in the 174 for a good mix of performance and versatility.
Excellent review. You are great! I have a question.
What is the advantage of mantra m6 compared to say Deacon 84. It is constantly mentioned that mantra is not really something in soft snow, and that it needs a lot of hard work. Mantra is surely not a better carver than Deacon, and does that 12mm contribute to anything more/better? I tried Deacon last winter and they really blew me away.
There's no arguing with actual results. If you ski and like the Deacon, then the Mantra really has no place. Some skiers really enjoy having more substance underfoot, especially when it comes to surface area. The Mantra is a great ski in this regard as it provides those skiers with a larger platform to stand on. In softer snow, the wider ski will be able to create higher edge angles and carve cleaner turns with greater confidence. Mainly, with the case of the Mantra, this is on the feet of skilled and strong skiers. If you lack the power or ability to make the ski turn and bend in softer snow, it's going to feel a lot more difficult than the narrower Deacon. But on firm snow, the advantage certainly leans to the narrower ski.
Loved the video! When will the twin tip version be releasing?
The plan is to do a few more all-mountain and freeride sets before getting into twins.
As always... great videos. Best in the business. Stormrider 95 or Enforcer 94? Price is not relevant. I am 45 years old and like to ski hard but am kinda lazy. Ski out west only. I have a powder ski, so looking for a on piste ski that can also go off piste if there is 1-3" of frsh snow. Something good in the trees and not a hassle to jump turn on the steeper stuff. But mostly will be on piste. Thanks in advance.
I forgot to mention that dampness is important to me. I cannot stand the chatter vibrations. Also, I find it annoying when the snow gathers into small sporatic "moguls" later in the day on a groomer. Which one is better with that? Lastly... are they both similar with dampness or is the Stormrider way better? I like to consistently ski between 40-55 mph on groomers.
The Enforcer is a stronger on-piste ski but the Stormrider is more versatile. If you are really consistently between 40 and 55, then the Enforcer will hold up better. That said, the Stockli has a quieter overall sound to it with minimal vibrations and chatter.
As always... thanks@@SkiEssentials
What about the Salmon QST 92 in this likeup? - though free ride you seemed to love this ski for everywhere on the mountain with your reviews
That one made it into our ~90mm ski comparison video! It was my first pick!