I really have wanted a Komrad 12 or spets 12 just to replace my lynx 12 because it’s so big but they’re expensive, this on the other hand is kinda in my budget range 🤷🏿♂️
Pretty sweet. The VR series is great. However, I wish there was a semi-auto version of the VRPA because here in California we aren't allowed to have pistol grip on semi-auto rifles w/detachable mags. So a semi-auto, mag-fed, shotgun w/the traditional rifle grip would be the ultimate. Please make it happen!
@@kbikerider8474 not really into hurricanes.I don't need to move across the country for a gun feature that I'll never use in real life. Kinda tempting tho.
@@mofosoto LOL.. I was speaking tongue in cheek. But you are certainly welcome. We take our ownership and 2 nd amdmt. rights seriously. Strange fact is that EVERYTHING to do with GUNS after ww2, was made in Cali. Reloading companies were all west coast. Hollywood Reloading Tools was on Hollywood Blvd. What the heck happened out there.
Brace Town USA! The end cap appears to be the DLG-080. Swap that for the DLG-094 "buffer" tube (commercial spec), and Bob's your uncle. Throw in DLG-076, the left side folding adapter, if you're feelin' fancy. Only problem is the grip itself, little sandpaper to reshape the upper profile a bit should help the ergos.
not yet, it seems like there is a se screw in the back. So, I am guessing it can easily be switch out. if someone can manufacture a 1913 back plate for this, it will get my attention for sure
@@ZZTful yeah thats true too, training and ability are fundamental. But i would rather have every advantage i can get, and become more efficient with a brace. It is more compact without a brace though, so benefits and downfalls to both systems.
You can't put a stock with 14" barrel I think it becomes SBS and needs $200 Registration, I think they will release information about it . This gun can't have stock maybe a brace but nobody knows the legal issues and who makes it. I hear you, sounds like limited.
@@TheDrRJP I don't think so. If Rock Island Armory can do it, Why can't I? If it's illegal for me to do it, it's illegal for THEM to do it! It's LEGAL for any person to build and construct their own firearm. You don't know the law.
You are Wrong! Watch all the other videos of people shooting them they are awesome. I have 14 an 80 and let me tell you what… Extremely fun and reliable just make sure you hold on to the 14 when firing as it has power and could catch you by surprise 😉
Does a Shockwave have a stock? Does a Tac-14 have a stock? A bullpup has its firing grip located in front of the breech of the weapon, instead of it. The magazine is also the trigger group and NOT in front of it like a normal rifle, shotgun or AR/AK pistol.
This is still a knock off and highly doubt anyones wrist can take more than a few hornady 00’s. This isn’t meant for more than buckshot, the bp is still my go to in home defense and much faster and accurate when shooting from the hip. I don’t name call because someone doesn’t like the same things I do, it’s like the argument of ford or Chevy, they both do the same fucking thing…. In that case break down. But that’s my point and my thoughts no fucks given to what anyone else thinks.
I bought one the day after they hit the market. Best buck I could've spent. Super Dope. It's like a legal sawed off shot gun!!!!!
I really have wanted a Komrad 12 or spets 12 just to replace my lynx 12 because it’s so big but they’re expensive, this on the other hand is kinda in my budget range 🤷🏿♂️
Pretty sweet. The VR series is great. However, I wish there was a semi-auto version of the VRPA because here in California we aren't allowed to have pistol grip on semi-auto rifles w/detachable mags. So a semi-auto, mag-fed, shotgun w/the traditional rifle grip would be the ultimate. Please make it happen!
come to Texas - we can have everything :) MAGA2022 and MAGA2024 :)
You live in a communist state! California sucks!
Better yet, move to Florida. "The" Gun state.
@@kbikerider8474 not really into hurricanes.I don't need to move across the country for a gun feature that I'll never use in real life. Kinda tempting tho.
@@mofosoto LOL.. I was speaking tongue in cheek. But you are certainly welcome. We take our ownership and 2 nd amdmt. rights seriously. Strange fact is that EVERYTHING to do with GUNS after ww2, was made in Cali. Reloading companies were all west coast. Hollywood Reloading Tools was on Hollywood Blvd. What the heck happened out there.
Looks like a DLG stock adapter with a brace would work. Seems to be the same design
Brace Town USA! The end cap appears to be the DLG-080. Swap that for the DLG-094 "buffer" tube (commercial spec), and Bob's your uncle. Throw in DLG-076, the left side folding adapter, if you're feelin' fancy. Only problem is the grip itself, little sandpaper to reshape the upper profile a bit should help the ergos.
I definitely got to get me one of them
I have one I put a twenty round drum bag and I pushed a grip on the front work screen
The rail underneath the forearm on mine is so out of spec, I can't find an angled grip that will tighten down on it.
Does this require a pistol purchase permit or nah
I really want one, but I live in Kommiefornia and it's illegal here
Can I add a vertical grip to this without committing a felony
Can i get this shipped to a ffl in Colorado
Do I need a sbs to buy it ? I’m in Michigan
People it does not get any better
What's the cost?
250 + tax at PSA. Rarely in stock though
What ammo? Mine jams
No way to put on a "pistol brace"?
not yet, it seems like there is a se screw in the back. So, I am guessing it can easily be switch out. if someone can manufacture a 1913 back plate for this, it will get my attention for sure
I gotta get one of these before it becomes illegal! Naturally and if possible, I'd put in stock on this and get a SBS tax stamp.😁
I really hope it is magpul or fab defense compatible.🙏🏽
Would make more sense to add a laser and shoot it from the hip.
My home is defended by a VRF 14.
WOW !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
HOW IS this not a shotgun?
For the same reason the Mossberg Shockwave and tge Remington Tac-14 are not shotguns. They are classified as an AOW or Any Other Weapon.
Whom ever is crying about a brace..
Put a sling on it and push forward....problem solved
Thats not why we want a brace, and have you shot anything with the sling push method? Very unstable with the sling only
@@bullpupper yes you have more purchase with a brace but if your a good shot your good. Peoples abilities is what it comes down to
@@ZZTful yeah thats true too, training and ability are fundamental. But i would rather have every advantage i can get, and become more efficient with a brace. It is more compact without a brace though, so benefits and downfalls to both systems.
I have one. The back has this wrench screw that maybe in the future you might he able to. Imma read the manual
@@ZZTful put a foregrip on it. according to the video above thats legal.
I would never buy one without a brace or stock. This is just sad.
You can't put a stock with 14" barrel I think it becomes SBS and needs $200 Registration, I think they will release information about it . This gun can't have stock maybe a brace but nobody knows the legal issues and who makes it. I hear you, sounds like limited.
Sad is not understanding that you’re quicker to fire from the hip with an attached laser for that accuracy.
That’s a shame. It’d fit perfectly in your purse. 👛
Save money, buy a VR 60, chop off the stock, shorten the barrel, instant VRF 14!
Instant illegal firearm
@@TheDrRJP I don't think so. If Rock Island Armory can do it, Why can't I? If it's illegal for me to do it, it's illegal for THEM to do it! It's LEGAL for any person to build and construct their own firearm. You don't know the law.
@@SmegHedd117 sawing off the barrel of a shotgun is not the same as 'building and constructing' your own firearm.
@@virgiljohnson4260 Whatever, then put a folding stock on it then. Badda Boom, Badda Bing! Problem solved.
@@SmegHedd117 I JUST ORDERED MINE!
Vs. Kalashnikov USA Komrad
Краса
Needs a stock…….
you would have to register it as an aow
Nope, SBS.
AOW cannot have a stock at any point in it's lifetime.
@@JoeUglyFatMama 😵💫
SOME videos of yahoos firing this one handed like a pistol. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME. YOU'LL BE SORRY.
Daddy want!
It’s funny they don’t show them shooting it in their video. It’s because the original is junk and unreliable and so is this one
You are Wrong! Watch all the other videos of people shooting them they are awesome.
I have 14 an 80 and let me tell you what… Extremely fun and reliable just make sure you hold on to the 14 when firing as it has power and could catch you by surprise 😉
@@whistlingrock3157 dont hold it in front of your NUTS!!!
That's funny it looks like a cheap bullpup, so cheap in fact they couldn't afford the stock.
Does a Shockwave have a stock? Does a Tac-14 have a stock? A bullpup has its firing grip located in front of the breech of the weapon, instead of it. The magazine is also the trigger group and NOT in front of it like a normal rifle, shotgun or AR/AK pistol.
This is still a knock off and highly doubt anyones wrist can take more than a few hornady 00’s. This isn’t meant for more than buckshot, the bp is still my go to in home defense and much faster and accurate when shooting from the hip.
I don’t name call because someone doesn’t like the same things I do, it’s like the argument of ford or Chevy, they both do the same fucking thing…. In that case break down. But that’s my point and my thoughts no fucks given to what anyone else thinks.
Junk and unreliable