Hehe yes, Athenians were hardy fellows, they rebuilt Ancient Athens a couple of times in the course of history, although at one time, they threatened the Spartans that if they did not join them in the fight against the Persians, they would get on their ships, abandon Athens and re-establish the city in southern Italy.
I have always been fascinated with and captivated by the concept of the "City-State"... as the idea seems both austere, fascinating and maybe even a bit spooky all at the same time... and I think is partly because when I think of the word "city-state"... my mind immediately conjures up images of a fortified, walled fortress-city that is leery and suspicious of outsiders (i.e., perhaps a bit like the ancient city of Troy... though that image is most likely pushing the point). Also... if there is one vibe that I seem to be picking up on about a city-state above all others (particular so about the ancient Greek city-states) is that they appear to be extremely grounded in who they are as a collective identity. That is... it appears that the people thought of themselves a bit less as individuals and a bit more as a collective citizen of a city-state first and foremost. For example... even the various Greek city-states were all ethnically and culturally Greek and all spoke the Greek language... the Greek people thought of themselves less as Greeks (as a collective Hellenic nation) and much more by their respective Greek city-state first and foremost. In summary... the ancient Greeks were collectively 'united' (albeit, very loosely) by ethnicity and language but that is where the "similarities" appear to both begin and stop. The ancient Greek city-states appear almost clannish or tribal in their respective identities... though it seems to be a bit more complex and/or sophisticated than just that... though not completely or entirely far off from it, either. Hmmmmm??🤔 Here in the USA... we are all united by a somewhat common culture and, of course, the English language that most US citizens speak... but as far as I know, we have no modern concept of the city-state. I think the closest entity that we "might" have here in the USA that may come closest in comparing to an ancient Greek city-state... would be a University college-campus. American university college campuses have their own collective identity... complete with their own bylaws, charters, constitutions, identities, mascots, traditions, "anthems / fight songs" as well as the years that they were founded and by whom (ie, their institutional 'founding fathers' not unlike how the ancient city-states had their own founding fathers). Furthermore... these universities even have their own 'fighting men & women / gladiators' in the form of athletes who 'go to war' in the form of fierce athletic competitions against other university teams... often in colosseum-like arenas and fields. And last but certainly not least... most university campuses have 'Greek-life'... that is, various fraternities and sororities that identify themselves with various letters from the Greek alphabet. If those are not the hallmarks of an ancient Greek city-state... than I don't know what is. Outside of the U.S. and in the modern western world... I think the only modern city (that I am aware of) that would most or best compare to an ancient or classical Greek city-state would the Vatican City in Rome... though I think the Vatican is more accurately described as a modern "nation-state" that is the approximate size of a small town.
My family comes from the Sparta area, possibly my ancestors were Spartans, but much more likely they were Messenian helots (slaves)! Oh well, no claims to ancient glory here.
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Hey man, this video is such a great summary. Great job!
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Great video!!
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You even get your Greek plurals right, impressive!
Something that amazes me, is that Athens was, re-made. Like the people in that settlement were like:
"Yeah... we're not moving from here, are we?"
Hehe yes, Athenians were hardy fellows, they rebuilt Ancient Athens a couple of times in the course of history, although at one time, they threatened the Spartans that if they did not join them in the fight against the Persians, they would get on their ships, abandon Athens and re-establish the city in southern Italy.
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Wll well, that last fact took me by surprise.
I know everyone says Hop-light, but Hop-li-tee is correct. Greek never had that silent final E like English.
I have always been fascinated with and
captivated by the concept of the "City-State"...
as the idea seems both austere, fascinating
and maybe even a bit spooky all at the same time...
and I think is partly because
when I think of the word "city-state"...
my mind immediately conjures up images
of a fortified, walled fortress-city that
is leery and suspicious of outsiders
(i.e., perhaps a bit like the ancient city of Troy...
though that image is most likely pushing the point).
Also...
if there is one vibe that I seem to be
picking up on about a city-state above all others
(particular so about the ancient Greek city-states)
is that they appear to be extremely grounded
in who they are as a collective identity.
That is...
it appears that the people thought of themselves
a bit less as individuals and a bit more as a
collective citizen of a city-state first and foremost.
For example...
even the various Greek city-states were all ethnically
and culturally Greek and all spoke the Greek language...
the Greek people thought of themselves less as Greeks
(as a collective Hellenic nation) and much more by
their respective Greek city-state first and foremost.
In summary...
the ancient Greeks were collectively 'united'
(albeit, very loosely) by ethnicity and language
but that is where the "similarities"
appear to both begin and stop.
The ancient Greek city-states appear almost
clannish or tribal in their respective identities...
though it seems to be a bit more complex
and/or sophisticated than just that...
though not completely or entirely
far off from it, either.
Hmmmmm??🤔
Here in the USA...
we are all united by a somewhat common culture
and, of course, the English language that most US citizens speak...
but as far as I know, we have no modern concept of the city-state.
I think the closest entity that we "might" have here in the USA
that may come closest in comparing to an ancient Greek city-state...
would be a University college-campus.
American university college campuses
have their own collective identity...
complete with their own bylaws, charters, constitutions,
identities, mascots, traditions, "anthems / fight songs"
as well as the years that they were founded and by whom
(ie, their institutional 'founding fathers' not unlike how
the ancient city-states had their own founding fathers).
Furthermore...
these universities even have their own
'fighting men & women / gladiators'
in the form of athletes who 'go to war'
in the form of fierce athletic competitions
against other university teams...
often in colosseum-like
arenas and fields.
And last but certainly not least...
most university campuses have 'Greek-life'...
that is, various fraternities and sororities
that identify themselves with various letters
from the Greek alphabet.
If those are not the hallmarks
of an ancient Greek city-state...
than I don't know what is.
Outside of the U.S. and in the modern western world...
I think the only modern city (that I am aware of)
that would most or best compare to an ancient or
classical Greek city-state would the Vatican City in Rome...
though I think the Vatican is more accurately described as a
modern "nation-state" that is the approximate size of a small town.
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Thank you for your kind words!
My family comes from the Sparta area, possibly my ancestors were Spartans, but much more likely they were Messenian helots (slaves)! Oh well, no claims to ancient glory here.
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