Thomas & Friends: Jack & the Pack (2003) in Retrospect - The Thomas Retrospective

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Комментарии • 737

  • @DanGamingFan2846
    @DanGamingFan2846 11 месяцев назад +546

    This series had so much potential. The props are impressive, the humor is great, and I love the characters. It could have easily been a great companion piece to _Thomas and Friends._ if only HIT hadn't interfered.

    • @FortheloveofThomas84
      @FortheloveofThomas84 11 месяцев назад +7

      Me too

    • @splendidredscrapiron
      @splendidredscrapiron 11 месяцев назад +11

      You commented that 32 minutes ago, and this video is 51 mins old and 41 mins long, which means you commented either part way through the vid, or before you watched it

    • @ColdPalmer-200
      @ColdPalmer-200 11 месяцев назад +12

      @@splendidredscrapiron...

    • @penguinmaster7
      @penguinmaster7 11 месяцев назад +21

      HIT absolutely sabotaged the series. an engineered failure top secure BTB as the *only* construction series.

    • @ToastTheThe
      @ToastTheThe 11 месяцев назад +13

      ​@@splendidredscrapironyea he probably commented before watching
      It's kinda a general opinion on the miniseries tho so like eh who cares

  • @matese1912
    @matese1912 11 месяцев назад +270

    I actually really like the voice Brandon gives Patrick. The way he just spouts “CONCRETE”and his overall gruff Irish voice is always amusing

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +20

      Wow I love Michael Brandon when he good voice actor as a narrator and diesel in model and cgi

    • @ToastTheThe
      @ToastTheThe 11 месяцев назад +12

      C O N C R E T E

    • @ItsCarlos563
      @ItsCarlos563 11 месяцев назад +3

      *BUT I'M THE MOST IMPORTANT!*

    • @Autistic-Noice-Panda-2023
      @Autistic-Noice-Panda-2023 10 месяцев назад +2

      I’d say it’s a Scottish accent he gave him but I prefer Michael angiles’ northern ish voice for Patrick

  • @MalWave
    @MalWave 11 месяцев назад +95

    Brandon made Monty and Max basically Beavis and Butthead and I'm into it wholeheartedly

  • @joshuaW5621
    @joshuaW5621 11 месяцев назад +129

    I see Jack and the Pack sort of like a bonus level of the classic era. And now that I think about it, Ned and Oliver’s dynamic has started to remind me of Warrior and Big Mac's dynamic in Tugs.

    • @SparkLizard99
      @SparkLizard99 11 месяцев назад +11

      They also remind of Laurel and Hardy, David Spade and Chris Farley, And other comedy duos

    • @antonioscholten
      @antonioscholten 2 месяца назад +2

      There's 2 Oliver's on sodor i suppose, the train and the other,

  • @Gondarth
    @Gondarth 11 месяцев назад +241

    Two years ago ago, I decided to give The Pack a try. Hadn't seen it in at least a decade and a half, probably since the DVD came out. It was remarkably good, like there was actual care put into it, as opposed to S7, which was decent, but ultimately felt like a cheap contractual obligation.
    So yeah, Pack was a great spin-off, and it's a shame it only got 13 or so episodes...

    • @selinapersaud7629
      @selinapersaud7629 11 месяцев назад +5

      Where did you find it? My friend wants to watch it.

    • @Shyguy624
      @Shyguy624 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@selinapersaud7629I just looked it up it's on RUclips if you search it

    • @Gondarth
      @Gondarth 11 месяцев назад

      @@selinapersaud7629 Either look up the episodes or buy a Jack and the Pack DVD. Those are your best two choices. I found them on RUclips, but that was two years ago, before Mattel purged the website of most Thomas and Friends episodes...

    • @ARG0T
      @ARG0T 10 месяцев назад +2

      Season 7 was great

  • @TrainsAreReallyCool
    @TrainsAreReallyCool 11 месяцев назад +64

    You talking about Kelly makes me realize how much he's like Toby in the railway series. He's old and wise, but instead of talking sense into Jack, he lets him make a fool of himself and then rescues him like a total Chad. He's also similar in the sense that he cares for others, and despite his accident with the wind, he still helps Isabella in a manner like Toby.
    *THIS* is how Toby should have stayed.

    • @bloodmuzzle
      @bloodmuzzle 11 месяцев назад +9

      I love characters like that tbh, it would have been great seeing Toby and Kelly together.

    • @SparkLizard99
      @SparkLizard99 11 месяцев назад +3

      ​@@bloodmuzzleactually Kelly has a very similar character to Edward since they are both wise and are coloured blue, while I think Ned is the steam shovel equivalent to Toby

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад +2

      Especially in CGI Brenner era.

  • @BotherRed
    @BotherRed 11 месяцев назад +64

    The more I learn about cases like this, the more upset I get with the BS of the corporate world and their dealings

  • @TankEngine97
    @TankEngine97 11 месяцев назад +49

    Jack and the pack as a whole had so much potential. The props were impressive and seeing Sodor through a different perspective would've been cool to see.

  • @triplej755
    @triplej755 9 месяцев назад +6

    As a kid these just felt like normal Thomas episodes because Thomas and Percy were used so much. I didn’t know that it was actually a spin off show until I saw your original video on Jack and the Pack.

  • @hiattgrey9161
    @hiattgrey9161 11 месяцев назад +72

    I love the Jack and the Pack miniseries. It's a shame the series never took off, because I love what we got.

  • @TheSpongeBobGuy01
    @TheSpongeBobGuy01 11 месяцев назад +22

    Fun fact: Byron was indirectly mentioned in mines of mystery. And Ned was indirectly mentioned in tale of the brave.

    • @bernarda1247
      @bernarda1247 11 месяцев назад +1

      Can you give me a video of it?

    • @TheSpongeBobGuy01
      @TheSpongeBobGuy01 11 месяцев назад +5

      @@bernarda1247 I can't give you a video of them because Mattel is copyrighting full episodes and movies of TTTE. But what I can tell you is that Thomas indirectly mentioned Ned in the scene where he meets Marion, and he indirectly mentioned Byron in the beginning of mines of mystery.

    • @bernarda1247
      @bernarda1247 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@TheSpongeBobGuy01 oh ok

  • @Deevster
    @Deevster 11 месяцев назад +22

    It's tragic that the creators not only made 1, but 2 sister shows to Thomas that both floundered to some degree. Jack and the Pack had huge potential, and if Hit never bought Gullaine and the team made the full 26 episode lineup to some warm but successful reception, it's possible that the writing team would have more time to flesh out the later seasons of thomas as they continued writing more episodes for the pack, fulfilling that annual release window to some degree.
    I'm glad that the CGi Era never forgot Jack and the Pack, though, and I'm glad they got more attention there than they otherwise would.

  • @donaldscottishengine
    @donaldscottishengine 11 месяцев назад +77

    i like jack and his pack, i would love to have seen the unproduced episodes be produced, wish we got more.
    this is gonna be a good retrospective

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +4

      Well my favorite pack are Jack Alfie Oliver Kelly Max and Monty

    • @bloodmuzzle
      @bloodmuzzle 11 месяцев назад +3

      It would be really cool to see the fans adapt those lost stories using the given episode outlines.

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 5 месяцев назад

      @@bloodmuzzle Especially in CGI style with many things like Trainz.

  • @hyperpowerfulform5132
    @hyperpowerfulform5132 10 месяцев назад +7

    15:16
    For those who don't know, The Importance of Being Patrick is a reference to a farcical comedy of manners by Oscar Wilde entitled "The Importance of Being Earnest: A Trivial Comedy for Serious People". Its a play from 1895 that takes a satirical look at upper-class Victorian society.
    Pretty interesting reference. I can tell that the Jack and the Pack writers had a lot of fun coming up with the original episode titles.

  • @Railroadracer49
    @Railroadracer49 11 месяцев назад +78

    On site with Thomas is easily a classic 😂
    Such a hilarious episode
    I especially love the bricks constantly falling on Oliver and saying OUCH!!
    Never fails to make me laugh
    Also the demolition scene is a masterpiece

    • @matteocaiti4878
      @matteocaiti4878 11 месяцев назад +9

      That episode you're talking about is actually "Thomas' trusty friends"

    • @bloodmuzzle
      @bloodmuzzle 11 месяцев назад +4

      The demolition scene has always struck me as impressive, but the fact it was done all in one take, especially granted how big the building set actually was, has given me an all new appreciation for it.

  • @warsthemarvel8608
    @warsthemarvel8608 11 месяцев назад +12

    20:38 Brandon being a maniac 😈
    No wonder he’s the best Diesel/troublesome trucks voice/laugh.

  • @alaricjaspers6348
    @alaricjaspers6348 11 месяцев назад +13

    The best part of the chimney destruction is that the last wall to fall was the one Oliver was trying to take down. Perfect comedic timing

  • @XYZ_is_taken
    @XYZ_is_taken 11 месяцев назад +7

    i like to imagine Thomas doesn’t get the destruction being fun because of how often he crashes.

  • @LimpBizkitMix
    @LimpBizkitMix 6 месяцев назад +9

    I think he IS saying “auto racetrack” and just saying it weird
    Edit: I told my mom about the plot for The Importance of Being Patrick and she said “yep that’s british humor for ya”

  • @wishbonefan
    @wishbonefan 11 месяцев назад +32

    Jack and the Pack is one of my favorite seasons of Bob the Builder

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +7

      Jack and the Pack are related to Bob the Builder
      Jack - Scoop /Muck
      Kelly - Lofty
      Rolly - George / buster
      Dizzy and tumbler Patrick
      Max and Monty / muck

  • @LegoMiester14
    @LegoMiester14 11 месяцев назад +12

    Anyone else notice how in Percy's Scary Tale, the voice used for the narrator and Monty switched when the owl hoots? Always a funny moment. Also, Jack and Alfie are a little like Ten Cents and Sunshine.

  • @JustARegularTank
    @JustARegularTank 11 месяцев назад +9

    "Wake up, homies. The Unlucky Tug just dropped Jack n Pack episode."

  • @teaoftraffic
    @teaoftraffic 6 месяцев назад +5

    13:23
    Speaking of Thumper, it’s a wonder why no one wrote a fanstory where he gets promoted to work with The Pack yet.
    Or at the very least interact with some of them.

  • @Douglas57647
    @Douglas57647 11 месяцев назад +22

    It's such a shame that this series never really came to fruition. As you said, the props were all amazingly well-made, and the characters had so much potential. My favorite Pack characters were always Max & Monty, and the bit about rowdy truck drivers in real life makes me appreciate these two knuckleheads even more XD

  • @user-ur5lv9el4s
    @user-ur5lv9el4s 5 месяцев назад +6

    I am sure what Michael Brandon really said was "The Sodor Auto Race Track"

  • @StepneyStudios2011
    @StepneyStudios2011 11 месяцев назад +6

    If that Bertie show was made in the hit era. There’d probably an episode about Bertie and say George disagreeing on how useful trains are and theyd call it like Thomas’ argument.

  • @BigLightning4360
    @BigLightning4360 11 месяцев назад +34

    While this can be similar to "Bob the Builder", Thomas the Tank Engine's mini companion series had much more moving model work without using the stop-frame technique and more detailed model sets.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +6

      I got another idea what if unlucky tug could even make episodes about the Bob the Builder history scoop
      2010 cgi bob the builder

  • @harrishyatt6283
    @harrishyatt6283 11 месяцев назад +12

    Around 2013, Irish actor and comedian Ardal O'Hanlon was asked to voice Patrick, however he declined the role, implying that Patrick was at some point intended to return in the CGI series. It is currently unknown what series or special Patrick's return was planned for.

  • @james_fisch
    @james_fisch 11 месяцев назад +9

    You made a good connection to Ned and Oliver making a subtle nod to Laurel and Hardy with their dynamic. I had never thought of it myself, but the original episode title "Another Fine Mess" definitely confirms it. In addition to that, I caught a couple other references to the duo. The bricks repeatedly hitting Oliver is seen in L&H a couple times, notably in "Dirty Work". Then Michael Brandon, I can't help but wonder if he was a fan himself? Those little grunts Oliver the Excavator made by Brandon are very similar in timing and tone to the grunts made by Hardy throughout the series, almost a signature of his performances. Absolutely loved this Retrospective!

    • @SparkLizard99
      @SparkLizard99 11 месяцев назад +3

      I also they are similar to Chris Farley And David Spade, Carl Wheezer and Jimmy Neutron, Greg Heffley, Finn the human and Jake the dog, and other famous duos from Western culture

  • @TheRaykemp
    @TheRaykemp 11 месяцев назад +40

    Yesss finally done with the classic series 1984-2003

    • @gojicrushers
      @gojicrushers 11 месяцев назад +1

      why u want it done so bad?

    • @percythesmallengine62.06
      @percythesmallengine62.06 11 месяцев назад +2

      Why are you so happy with the classics seasons retrospective done?

    • @Eflgoat
      @Eflgoat 11 месяцев назад

      Thats not a good thing

    • @Tyron-fc8wv
      @Tyron-fc8wv 11 месяцев назад

      👍

    • @thisisxavier17
      @thisisxavier17 11 месяцев назад

      It was a good run! 🫡✌️

  • @nintendoguy0342
    @nintendoguy0342 11 месяцев назад +12

    Imagine if Jack and the Pack had the classic series music and was released during 2003 with Season 7. It would hit so much different. I’m really excited for your review on Season 8.

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +3

      Jack and the Pack are before s8 and after s7

    • @ambrm
      @ambrm 11 месяцев назад +1

      @@vanessasandoval96that’s when it takes place, but it was released in between season 9 and 10

  • @mellojoe9421
    @mellojoe9421 8 месяцев назад +3

    The lady at 14:14 is actually the owner of the grand piano, it’s stated in particular in the episode.

  • @mryoungandbrave1
    @mryoungandbrave1 11 месяцев назад +7

    I love the moment from Kelly saying that Jack needs to learn the hard way, it reminds me of Toby, tell me he wouldn't let a younger engine make a mistake, embarrass themselves and learn their lesson, so long as no one was in danger of getting really hurt.

  • @wattsink2009
    @wattsink2009 11 месяцев назад +19

    If model Thomas ever gets rebooted, we need more Jack And The Pack to go with it!
    😎
    …and Tugs too!

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +4

      Do heard about Trainz Adventure of Thomas and tracks to big adventure Trainz Adventure is half model/cgi it’s even cool better then AEG so what if we could pretend Trainz Adventure and tracks to big adventures are season 25 26 27 28

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 11 месяцев назад +6

      Model Thomas will never get rebooted. I'm sorry but since models were getting too expensive to continue, CGI took over to keep the show going so the show can only continue or rebooted in CGI. We all know that models cannot last in shows forever.

    • @danielferrovias
      @danielferrovias 10 месяцев назад

      Tugs is a product of it's time... So it wouldn't take off nowadays

    • @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967
      @DavidBContentExtravaganza3967 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@danielferrovias That doesn't mean people could try to have it take off even in the present time.

  • @tugs_man
    @tugs_man 11 месяцев назад +27

    I’d like to believe Jack and the Pack would’ve still failed even if HiT didn’t buy out Gullane. Because Bob the Builder was so popular in terms of sales and evidently the clear winner when it comes to the market for talking construction vehicles. The Builder had a number 1 single, you can’t let go of a franchise at that level

    • @HeartCloud
      @HeartCloud 11 месяцев назад +1

      You aren't wrong.

    • @vanguardtrainer924
      @vanguardtrainer924 11 месяцев назад +8

      Not to mention Bob the Builder was a lot easier and cheaper to produce as it was animated. It just would have been too expensive to produce both Thomas and Jack or any other spin offs they wanted to do.
      It would have been fun to see them attempt a whole Jack season in CGI though when it would have been easier to produce.

    • @e-122psi3
      @e-122psi3 11 месяцев назад +5

      That is likely, still I think it would have been cool if Jack and the Pack at least got a fair chance, even just getting the full 26 planned launch episodes would have been nice to show everything off. Could have possibly made a nice cult classic with just enough episodes to binge through.
      Never been big on the 13 episodes limit it and TUGS and so many other early cartoons that didn't take off got stuck with, just never seems enough.

    • @scotthodgson3557
      @scotthodgson3557 10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah Bob the builder does 😊

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@vanguardtrainer924I don’t think so, because there’s a clear chance that Jack and the Pack is related to Thomas, so basically kids will be more glued to Thomas than any other kids show?

  • @Randomstuffs261
    @Randomstuffs261 11 месяцев назад +18

    Good luck reviewing the HIT era, Tug. You're gonna need it my man

    • @wishbonefan
      @wishbonefan 11 месяцев назад +2

      I did a re-watch of the HiT era last month. It had an alright-ish start but went downhill pretty fast. It also got very annoying having very long streaks of episodes with ONLY Thomas as the main character. The new characters from the era were pretty neat, I just wish they got more than like 2 episodes each. Oh, and if you thought season 12 was the worst season of this era... then you sure won't like season 10.

  • @dikkekipgaming
    @dikkekipgaming 11 месяцев назад +7

    Quite cool that my country, the Netherlands, is one of the only countries where the mini-series released

  • @SonicJrandSarah
    @SonicJrandSarah 11 месяцев назад +8

    I understand how you reacted to seeing the Jack and the Pack episodes as a return to Classic Thomas. I was expecting Season 10 to be pretty much the same, but it turns out that wasn't the case. What a shame. It would have been a great comeback.

  • @benjamincopelin3795
    @benjamincopelin3795 11 месяцев назад +33

    I'm already putting this on my Best Thomas Fan Content Playlist because that's how much I love your videos!

  • @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933
    @Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933 11 месяцев назад +8

    I actually owned the 'On Site With Thomas' DVD when I was a kid too. Never had the rest of the DVDs though, so I never got the full Pack experience.
    But speaking of Thumper at 13:25, it took me years & becoming a major history buff to realize that the chassis for his model was made using a model kit KV-1 tank.

    • @liladoodle
      @liladoodle 11 месяцев назад +4

      Not to mention some tractors in the background through some of the early seasons were based on the chassis of the M3/M5 Stuart.

  • @Nic_2751
    @Nic_2751 5 месяцев назад +3

    Such a shame this little spin off was snubbed at the last second, wouldn’t mind it being a little one season story that sets them up as a crew and continue to keep them more prevalent and involved in the show forward, but I’m glad it wasn’t lost entirely either

  • @adventuresofamtrakcascades301
    @adventuresofamtrakcascades301 3 месяца назад +5

    The OG names of the episodes are so hilarious and classic, and it was so infuriating that they changed them

  • @alessandroscidone5271
    @alessandroscidone5271 11 месяцев назад +20

    And with that, Unlucky Tug has once again given all of us a wonderful Thomas Masterpiece on RUclips. I really enjoyed this video and can’t wait for whatever Thomas content comes to the channel next!

    • @Noah-ey5zf
      @Noah-ey5zf 11 месяцев назад +3

      Same over here! I mean it when I say it but the unlucky tug is like our god for the Thomas Fandom

    • @TheSpongeBobGuy01
      @TheSpongeBobGuy01 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@Noah-ey5zf Isn't Wilbert Awdry the god of the fandom?

    • @Noah-ey5zf
      @Noah-ey5zf 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@TheSpongeBobGuy01 well yes he created the franchise but I meant the unlucky tug is a god for just how good his work is in video

  • @MrTrainerProductions
    @MrTrainerProductions 11 месяцев назад +6

    In all honesty, I love all the Pack episodes, even Jack Owns Up because it teaches the moral of the owning up to mistakes. Speaking of Max and Monty having the most leads making them standouts, Max and Monty, themselves, are my favorite Pack members because they're both great comedy duos and they represent how even the truck drivers can be careless in real life.
    I can imagine George, Butch, Thumper, Elizabeth, or, maybe, The Horrid Lorries having 'Jack'-Scaled models built. It's because I think all the Pack vehicles would interact with others outside The Pack, most notably Max and Monty interacting with The Horrid Lorries, Isobella interact with Elizabeth, and Kelly interact with Butch.

  • @jordanlowman6924
    @jordanlowman6924 6 месяцев назад +2

    I always used to think the episode “Thomas’ Trusty Friends” as a fun and active episode when I the TTF DVD back in the day.

  • @frantasramota1359
    @frantasramota1359 11 месяцев назад +3

    32:57
    Guy: I spend two weeks build that, What will you do with it?
    Producer: Demolish it.
    Guy: What?

  • @emersoninfinitystone5785
    @emersoninfinitystone5785 11 месяцев назад +10

    Bob The Builder: *"They do exactly what we do!."*
    Jack And The Pack: *"But better."*

  • @sulaimaanazoor
    @sulaimaanazoor 11 месяцев назад +7

    It's funny that both "Tugs" (1989) and "Jack & the Sodor Construction Company" (2003) had only 1 season of episodes and sadly didn't get another series of episodes. Both spin off series deserve another chance.
    I hope that the Unlucky Tug speaks about the Cars spin off series "Planes" because that is unrated and is the only Pixar films series that was made by DisneyToon studios before it closed down.

  • @jacobunderwood5206
    @jacobunderwood5206 11 месяцев назад +5

    When I was still really young, I never even thought these episodes would were supposed to be their own series. I just thought they were an extension of the main series, just like the Narrow Gauge episodes. Like, they were a special “every now and then” group of characters

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад

      In episode was called
      Operation S.K.A.R.L.O.E.Y. Aka Sir Handel Knows As Rheneas Likely On Every Year
      What if unlucky tug talks about facts about narrow gauge engines the episodes what narrow gauge episodes are Tallylynn version

  • @arbytv5139
    @arbytv5139 11 месяцев назад +6

    Something tells me that the whole Jack and the pack sideseries was made out of Bob the Builder envy

  • @chargoesboom6990
    @chargoesboom6990 11 месяцев назад +7

    i miss the intro in the retrospectives, such beauty in the transitions with the music

  • @fenrirslip
    @fenrirslip 11 месяцев назад +7

    I just watched "Thomas' Trusty Friends" before listening to what you had to say about the episode and I've got to say, it's pretty comedic despite having no real moral behind it. Sometimes these "slice of life" episodes can be good if done properly and this episode is one of very few. Not to mention, the practical effects are stunning to boot. Dare I say this episode could fit right into a compilation of Season 5 and spills and thrills episodes with the chimney falling on top of the warehouse.

  • @David_Mattox
    @David_Mattox 11 месяцев назад +3

    “And we weren’t released in a lot of countries, had a promo DVD at Woolworths… I don’t know, Everett, was it the one branch or all of them?”
    I cannot hear Woolworths and not think of that film XD

  • @eddiethefriendlytenderengine
    @eddiethefriendlytenderengine 2 месяца назад +2

    One thing I find really fascinating about this spinoff is the human figures. In the main series, there were always large scale human figures exclusive to close-up shots as they couldn’t be as detailed in wide shots, given the scale of the engine props. However, because of how big the Pack props are, the human figures are just plain large scale all the time, with the exception of on the Gauge 1 sets that are shown in the spinoff.

  • @WrestlingCompilations
    @WrestlingCompilations 11 месяцев назад +10

    I'll admit, I liked the idea of having a spin off series within the Thomas franchise. Not just Jack & The Pack but other railway characters too

  • @e-122psi3
    @e-122psi3 11 месяцев назад +10

    It's a shame more of those funny visual gags the series had didn't carry over into Hit era Thomas more often, could have really added a fun redeeming quality to those seasons while keeping to the more light hearted format that period aimed for.

  • @NewController01
    @NewController01 11 месяцев назад +6

    13:27 that's a point, why WASN'T Thumper made part of the pack? it would've at least given him more screen time

  • @Poltergeist-vm8wq
    @Poltergeist-vm8wq 10 месяцев назад +2

    Wait, I just had a fun theory
    The reason why Thomas acts so weirded out about the pack enjoying knocking down buildings is because the events of Thomas comes to breakfast

  • @kevin-2.1
    @kevin-2.1 11 месяцев назад +5

    I love that Oliver keep saying ouch, 😂 & I’m looking forward for the next retrospective of season 8 of Thomas and friends. As well as part 2 of Star Wars focusing on the prequel era.

  • @rmn070
    @rmn070 11 месяцев назад +10

    Can we all agree that the face on the large scale Thomas that appeared in Season 6 before this series happened looks really creepy?

    • @TrainsCatsOtherStories
      @TrainsCatsOtherStories 10 месяцев назад +2

      Admittedly a little bit.

    • @TrainsCatsOtherStories
      @TrainsCatsOtherStories 8 месяцев назад +1

      I mean I personally was never creeped out by it as a kid but I understand your feelings. Looking back it is.... Weird looking.

  • @tobythetramengine0732
    @tobythetramengine0732 11 месяцев назад +6

    Toby actually had 13 faces on his Series 6 face reference sheet.

  • @Nephalem2002
    @Nephalem2002 7 месяцев назад +2

    I was very surprised that Jack and The Pack wasn’t more popular. Construction shit was very popular cause of all the sandboxes at playgrounds.

  • @DillianTrainzStudios
    @DillianTrainzStudios 11 месяцев назад +7

    Jack & The Pack looked like an interesting spin-off series for Thomas. Shame HiT never got around to letting Gullane go through with it.

  • @KalaschniKlown
    @KalaschniKlown 11 месяцев назад +5

    Now that Project Tiger Moth has proven to be a success, y’never know we could have another various of “Jack & the Pack”
    Honestly though, if I was in charge, I would call it “Jack’s Crew” due to practicality and simplicity

    • @TufteMotorsport
      @TufteMotorsport 8 месяцев назад +2

      I wish they had a made an episode where Jack quits in front of people. It should be named "Jack's off publicly".

  • @Pikminer-5087
    @Pikminer-5087 11 месяцев назад +6

    I find it funny that "On Site With Thomas" was actually one of if not my first pieces of the show I watched as a kid. To learn of it's history and production here is pretty cool

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +1

      I love on site with Thomas it starts out with Patrick being most important so the whole pack were making rumor who is most important and Max and Monty are arguing who is Patrick and makes Patrick cause an accident getting dipped into the concrete

  • @davidmolin8944
    @davidmolin8944 11 месяцев назад +5

    I remember watching jack and the pack when I was really little and I loved all the action scenes and sounds they made, so glad you made a retrospective on it

  • @dmancluster2631
    @dmancluster2631 11 месяцев назад +5

    I definitely lament that Jack & the Pack never got a proper chance, but we still have some amazing props and good characters that came out of it.

  • @WEM2016
    @WEM2016 11 месяцев назад +9

    I think a Bob the Builder retrospective series would be cool. Other than Thomas, it was my go-to show when I was little.

  • @CaptainCat101
    @CaptainCat101 11 месяцев назад +9

    It's always the best shows that are short lived

  • @ThomasROBLOXAdventures2007
    @ThomasROBLOXAdventures2007 11 месяцев назад +13

    This series is so great!

    • @Gator-ts6hg
      @Gator-ts6hg 11 месяцев назад +4

      Totally Agree man

  • @diabeticman2194
    @diabeticman2194 11 месяцев назад +6

    I have a lot of nostalgia for Jack and the Pack (Thomas’ Trusty Friends in the UK where I’m from), loved the DVD and the two season 6 episodes. Such a cool concept with some fun episodes!

  • @ScottMalkinsonisW
    @ScottMalkinsonisW 11 месяцев назад +11

    I was kinda in a way just as surprised that some members came back. As much as this show was like Bob the Builder I both enjoyed them in their own ways I also kinda noticed that if Jack has a snowplough he would be like Scoop since Scoop has also been shown to have a snowplow and another comparison David Menkin voiced Scoop in Ready Steady Build in the US same as how he voiced Jack in the US of the CGI series.

  • @MSCPictures64
    @MSCPictures64 11 месяцев назад +9

    I wish we get to see the lost episodes of Jack and the pack

    • @tre-engines
      @tre-engines 11 месяцев назад +4

      I wonder if any of the canceled episodes had any shots filmed

  • @romansgalaxy9093
    @romansgalaxy9093 11 месяцев назад +5

    I seriously thought that you were going to re-release the old Jack and the pack review, but this is even better!

  • @MrMcJohnsonII
    @MrMcJohnsonII 11 месяцев назад +6

    Michael Brandon makes Max and Monty laugh like Beavis and Butthead

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +3

      I love Michael Brandon deep voice as diesel max and Monty

  • @alfiee.8
    @alfiee.8 11 месяцев назад +5

    When I was younger, I probably watched this show more than Thomas when it came out simply because my name was Alfie and there was a character with the same name as me

  • @davindean6780
    @davindean6780 11 месяцев назад +2

    I swear I’m getting a sense of deja vu with this video

  • @Tophams_No.6
    @Tophams_No.6 11 месяцев назад +3

    "Jack and the Sodor Pack" How did none of the people at HiT come up with this name??

  • @vexstenxv3480
    @vexstenxv3480 11 месяцев назад +5

    Oh I remember this! I think I had the DVD of Jack & the Pack if I recall. I think I still have it somewhere, I just don’t remember where it is.

  • @able_archer01
    @able_archer01 11 месяцев назад +4

    18:50 This right here is probably my favourite bit of narration in any Thomas media.

  • @JayPumabomb56
    @JayPumabomb56 11 месяцев назад +3

    Excited for the chaos that follows after here lmao

  • @ryanfuller912
    @ryanfuller912 3 месяца назад +3

    I remember watching the pilots on New Friends For Thomas, and I never knew they were from Season 6.

  • @thewitchbasket
    @thewitchbasket 5 месяцев назад +2

    As soon as you mentioned the buyout, I was immediately like “Do I smell corporate sabotage??”

  • @zachbarclay2791
    @zachbarclay2791 10 месяцев назад +3

    19:37 That is the scariest thomas has ever looked imo

  • @elmasterdezoologia6641
    @elmasterdezoologia6641 11 месяцев назад +2

    Love how you put Max/Monty's snicker as a post credits scene

    • @vanessasandoval96
      @vanessasandoval96 11 месяцев назад +2

      What if George was joined the pack and be friends with Max and Monty

    • @elmasterdezoologia6641
      @elmasterdezoologia6641 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@vanessasandoval96 An official puzzle depicts George and Elizabeth in the pack instead of Buster and Isobella

  • @HenryFan1911
    @HenryFan1911 11 месяцев назад +3

    We’ve come a long way throughout the retrospective series. I choose to see Jack and the Pack as in between S6 and S7, like S6.5. I feel like Thomas first appearing in Nelson Gets Carried Away would be more special and impactful. What if he wasn’t going to appear much in the second half of this spinoff season.
    Buster by Michael Brandon sounds like Goofy lol. I love how Brandon is so enthusiastic during his narration. That chimney falling stunt I never knew was only able to do do one take of it. This series had an insane amount of potential, if HiT hadn’t interfered.
    A little later, the retrospective continued. As they approached the next episode, they saw Season 8. “Here we go,” said Henry’s driver.

  • @DisneyMatthewSkunk
    @DisneyMatthewSkunk 11 месяцев назад +5

    I was born in 2004 , so this holds a special place in my heart since i owned the classic and hit eras on Dvd , and the big switch to Cgi happened when i was in kindergarten. Now I'm 18 years olds 😅

  • @ryleeculla5570
    @ryleeculla5570 Месяц назад +3

    The hit era loved their crashes almost every crash they did was dramatic and badass

  • @dadocta5168
    @dadocta5168 11 месяцев назад +10

    And with that, we have entered the Hit Era. I don't know how TUG will tackle each season since (aside from 12) they are all the same.
    Nonetheless I look forward to each Restrospect!

    • @TrainsCatsOtherStories
      @TrainsCatsOtherStories 10 месяцев назад

      Oh I don't know... even the hit era model series had its moments. I'd argue season 8, with a few changes made here and there could easily be on par with season 6 & 7. It was easily the best out of that era.

  • @reasonablebutcrazy
    @reasonablebutcrazy 2 месяца назад +2

    The Jack and the pack episodes were my favorite episodes growing up

  • @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle
    @NeidhardtDerBlitzschnelle 11 месяцев назад +2

    10:38 I'd like to point out that the German Release skipped "Jack owns up" and "Percy's Scary Tale" for unknown reasons.

  • @georgeheaps4944
    @georgeheaps4944 11 месяцев назад +6

    Great video

    •  11 месяцев назад +2

      how could you say so its just 2 minutes online dude....

    • @akintolashekoni4600
      @akintolashekoni4600 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@there's a thing called so far or he has patreon and commented today on full release like think for a second.

    • @nanispy1818
      @nanispy1818 11 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@akintolashekoni4600yep

  • @AndriuV2
    @AndriuV2 11 месяцев назад +3

    *We all waited for this...*

  • @carterschulte7997
    @carterschulte7997 11 месяцев назад +1

    I've never seen an episode of Thomas, but your enthusiasm for the entire series makes me also feel disappointed they never did more with Jack and the Pack.

  • @ZakZStack
    @ZakZStack 11 месяцев назад +2

    23:51 Mike O'Donnell confirmed that he and Junior did indeed compose their own music for the series, but due to the HiT buyout, it never happened

  • @lnerengine2644
    @lnerengine2644 11 месяцев назад +2

    Tbh, I always thought that the Narrow Gauge Engines should have had their own spin-off, but that's just me.
    I vaguely remember watching these episodes many years ago, the large scale props of Thomas and Percy were fascinating to me.
    Great video as usual

  • @thesudriana016
    @thesudriana016 11 месяцев назад +3

    It's incredible by all the facts, info and all the model techniques the crew had with these gigantic construction characters, combined with extra detail. On behalf of Jack & the Pack as a spinoff of its time, I'd say it has some similarities with TUGS and Theodore Tugboat. No not just b/c it had 13 episodes of the former, but of the characters each. Jack and Alfie are like Ten Cents and Sunshine/Theodore and Hank, Byron as George the Valiant, Oliver as Foduck, Ned as Warrior, Kelly as Hercules, Isobella as Top Hat/Emily, etc.
    Max & Monty are two of my favorite Pack characters mainly because I always love dumptrucks. In my childhood, I sometimes watch some kid-construction tapes that are educational with real live action machines at work (There Goes a Bulldozer/Dump Truck, Hard Hat Harry's Construction Equipment, I Love Big Machines, etc.). Their personas really are spot on reflecting the carelessness of real truck drivers are, especially nowadays. So they definitely stand out among the others, combined with their insane bickering and antics. Would've loved to see what would've happen if Safety First was made, then we would've seen of what makes them venerable members and how they can put others in their place being more careless as them like George the Steamroller (like how MrTrainer1110Productions did in his series with a few episodes centered around them).
    Favorite episode-wise, my favorite is Who's the Boss because not only do I like seeing the Pack members bickering together, but also has an insanely awesome crash. Also love the Irish accent Michael Brandon gave to Patrick who only appeared once (despite him being American alongside Byron). My least favorite is The Lightning Tree. If you'd all remember what Thomas once said in S3, "We cannot mend broken trees!" And here, the Pack are like "We'll pretend we didn't hear that" and broke that logic out the window. Cancelled episode-wise, I would've loved to see Bossy Byron, Jack's Snow Rescue, Isobella Gets Steamed and Importance of Being Patrick get made. I'm not really a fan of Alfie Has a Secret, Treasure Hunt, or Kelly's Heroes cause the latter retcons Jack's character even though he should've learned that from Jack Jumps In when it comes to being safe. I take Jack Owns Up and Thomas Tells a Lie (better examples of admitting your mistakes more than Who's Geoffrey?).
    And finally, and I know this might sound as an unpopular opinion, but I'm not really fond of Bob the Builder. Granted, I used to like it as a kid and I still have some nostalgia memories in my heart, I just never cared for it as a show as I got older. Just not one of my cup of teas. So yeah, the Pack wins me over.

    • @MrTrainerProductions
      @MrTrainerProductions 9 месяцев назад

      He's right about Max & Monty putting George in his place. I depict their dynamic with them being bitter enemies just because George hates railways, which would just annoy the twins and the three would get into heated arguments and vicious fights.

  • @spencermurphy1004
    @spencermurphy1004 11 месяцев назад +5

    Well done on this one Nick this retrospect stuff about Thomas & Friends, Star Wars, etc. good work on all of this I love Thomas & Friends and I have had it in my life since I was little!!

  • @TopHatTITAN
    @TopHatTITAN 11 месяцев назад +7

    I wish there was more fan made stories for the Pack. I think they deserve it.

  • @Numpey
    @Numpey 8 месяцев назад +3

    Honestly, the Gullane Era of Thomas, regardless of writing quality, is very entertaining

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 7 месяцев назад +1

      The writing ain’t that bad.

    • @Numpey
      @Numpey 7 месяцев назад +1

      @@rmgilyard it’s not even bad it’s just like mediocre

    • @rmgilyard
      @rmgilyard 7 месяцев назад

      @@Numpey I disagree, but aight.