Did Instagram Just Abandon Photographers?
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- Опубликовано: 11 окт 2024
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Now that Instagram has officially said that it's no longer a photo sharing app, what do we, as photograhy-first creators, do?
Here's my take on it.
Adam Mosseri's tweet: / 1410297743285829632
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here's the tweet in question btw: twitter.com/mosseri/status/1410297743285829632
shopping? !!
I'm a beginner artist on IG and to me it feels like, I finally got into the classroom but the class is already over.. *sobs standing at the door*
Images still work. And you will also figure a way out to present your stuff on video format. No big deal.
I feel you.… 😭
As someone who’s been on IG since 2018, it feels like I just went through 3 years of school, just for the school to close and now I’ve got to go to another one 😂
thats pretty much what you did. You came too late so you fail.lol jk
I relate to this so much😭
Instagram has been a mess the minute FB took over, trying to run before it can walk.it wants to be tiktok, it wants to be Snapchat it wants to be RUclips it wants to be everything at the same time.
the sad thing is that i get it. as a product designer in my last life, it makes perfect business sense to push the app in this way. the sadder thing is that it's abandoning the original community that gave it such initial success. such is the way of the world i guess :(
@@patkay I don't think it is abandoning, but I think it is definitely forcing photographers to diversify. As a stills photographer I've always just dabbled in video. It is now becoming more important. Business is never going to make changes you always like. Any business is going to face these challenges.
So well said!! I haven’t touched my Instagram for a year and I loved it sooo much before. Fb destroyed it. You completely described it 💯. 😞
@@patkay Isn't part of product designing also the UI/UX? They don't even care about user experience anymore. It doesn't seem to make sense to throw away the roots or the individuality of a platform just for money, because it ends up like what we have now. A cesspool of ideas stolen from people that doesn't work together.
@@professionalpotato4764 while that seems like a logical resolution to arrive at, product design is very much about the artful marriage of business priorities and good (overall) UX. the usability of the product *is actually good*, as in, you know how to use it, and use it well. instagram actually knows its users really well and knows that it has many many different types of people using the app. the sad thing is, when you have to pivot or evolve your main personas to something else due to a business priority, you're inevitably going to upset the cohort of people you were moving from (us, as photographers). they wouldn't make this move unless it ultimately made business sense for them. there are a bunch of incredibly smart people working on instagram, so i get it, it's just a shame that so many of us belong to the original cohort of people who grew the app in the first place.
I feel absolutely betrayed. I'm an artist and it's not only my content that is shoved under the bus it's also the content I loved consuming that is gone. I opened my regular feed and it was just reels. There was no photos, no regular posts. I haven't noticed it straight away, only minutes later when I felt anxiety and my eyes started to hurt from all the action happening on the screen - all these clippy flashing short videos.. it felt like eating junk food, or more like someone shoving it down your throat..I exited immediately. I was making piece with the idea I will have to make videos instead of photos now, but not being able to see what I choose to see on my own feed is just sad. After shoving advertisement in every second post on the feed this is just the last nail in the coffin...
Perfectly said....
instagram is just another tool to promote your work as an artist but it isn't the only one. I've been an artist way before the social media era. There will be always be a way to promote your work and to find other people's work. Have you tried magazines like hi-fructose? websites like saatchiart? If instagram is not supporting creators, we should let it die
Come to the Vero community it’s about photos … and you have instantly people who are truly interested in your photography, and its not fake followers on Vero, there is no crazy Algorithm who decides what is shown to you, you decide on your own. Vero is easy and relaxing and without all the pressure of being compared. Its a true community interested in sharing diy arts of all kind. I love posting on Vero.
VSCO Grid: Minimalist design, no image ratio restrictions, chronological feed, no in feed or external ads.
Until they grow.
@@Khanya55 Do both. VSCO has long had this chicken and egg problem where people won't use it because it doesn't have a large enough user base, but it user vase wont grow for the same reason.
gala is pretty cool too.
Yeah try to tell a client "go check my portfolio in vsco" lmaoooooooooooooo
@@erickbrandongarciajimenez687 The web view is cleaner than flickr or IG. Are you not sending people to your website?
I agree, reels content feels like quick, bad junk food compared to content like this...
yeah, there's a side of my integrity that just can't deal with that kind of content 😂. maybe im just getting old haha
I couldn't agree more with what you said here. As an artist/oil painter, I used to think that IG was essential to the growth of my business, but eventually I reached a point where the posting schedule was just too demanding for me. The algorithm kept wanting more in order for me to grow, and I felt like I could never catch up. I eventually started switching over to RUclips, and I haven't looked back since. I completely agree-- videos here on YT feel so much more fulfilling than the sugary filler on Reels and Tiktok.
Yeah, but you'r still doing videos. As a fellow artist (illustration), I don't want to do videos. Just post my finished product as an image.
In this past week I’ve decided to move over to You Tube rather than solely focusing on Instagram. Your comment has lifted me up! 😌
Everybody says do reels, but I've noticed on one of my accounts: we'll make cool reels, they have major reach and likes compared to photo's, yet they never lead to any new follows...
True!
Ye, I put effort into reels then they get 10k+ views and I stay at 200 followers
@@firstname732 same with payed advertising. Lots of likes , no followers. I belive insta and fb advertising is fake.
@@andersistbesser Thats because it plays into peoples psychology. People actually need to find you appealing to follow you. Shoutouts are a better way to gain followers considerably. Even though it could be insignificant sometimes. Make sick Reels? Well nobody cares.
I have 1.2M views on my reel and I gained 1600 followers. That ratio is horrible. No true reward for creating good content, people only cling onto the people that are famous already. It truly sucks.
I quit instagram and facebook 5 months ago (I'm a wedding photographer, everyone told me I was crazy) and it was the best thing I've done for myself, my creativity and my time. I just stopped thinking about that next story, or the best "aesthetic for my grid", I stopped making 4:5 photos that I really don't like, and the greatest of all, I don't have all the unnecessary gossip in my life. It's crazy how much time we waste creating content for a platform that's not even paying us for it.
On another note, I muted all stories and it has been bliss. I've also unfollowed people who post text screenshots (pet peeve of mine) and too many videos. I'm trying to hold on to the image focus at least on my feed.
yeah i do the same thing and only follow specific accounts to keep my own feed as clean as possible!
Yeah I only follow visual artist, illustration, character design and photography, but these artists also feel like it's dropping even tho they are the only one I follow, Imagine if we'd move all at the same time to Vero/tumblr or 500x (tho 500x isnt really for Drawings, well there are very few there)
Very well said Pat. Its kinda hard for us who just start to do photography and want to show it to people, I'm start thinking to just print my photo and put it at my wall, lol ...
it's definitely harder now than it's ever been, but it can still be done!
I just discovered your channel maybe a week or two ago. I love your content on here so much. Love your photos on IG. Looking at them gives me so much happiness.
thanks for watching! enjoy your time :)
RIP Instagram. When they started prioritizing monetization and screwing around with my viewership is when I pulled the plug. It wasn’t worth it anymore for me. They are struggling to catch up to tik Tok with poorly designed interfaces and they won’t get anywhere. They’re trying to overhaul an engine mid-race.
Instead of improving Instagram, Mark Zuckerberg wants to add another feature on Instagram by having paid subscriptions for IG stories. So a content creator can choose to price his or her that IG Story to whoever gullible enough to pay for it. Mark (stole) that idea from Twitter that is also working on that feature for its page. I really don't support that idea because it can be a rip off for viewers to watch meaningless paid stories. The problem with the monetization system in these companies' term, the content creator can be corporately controlled. For instance, if an activist makes a content questioning the establishment, these social media platforms can demonetize the user. It happens a lot on RUclips.
I’ve always admired you not jumping on trends bro!
I was saddened by the news. They could have really held onto what Instagram has been for so many- a place to connect, share and inspire. We do not really need another TikTok. I just wonder where everyone will go now if they don't have a website or blog or youtube to fall back to.
Yes, it's a prime opportunity for a new photo-based platform, and PLEASE ditch the algorithms. Just leave the organic reach alone.
@@Trigger-xw9gq You mean like Flickr? 500px? It's been done and it has failed. Instagram was the last popular holdout for photography. Even stock photography is dying a rather quick death with royalties being slashed across the board. The harsh truth is there's a glut of images right now thanks to smartphones and value is diminishing every day. This will happen to videos too eventually.
@@balajiquiz So as you conclude, it is saturation that is the problem, not a focused platform. In addition, your point is for "sales", not pure enjoyment & sharing.
@@Trigger-xw9gq No, not just sales. Flickr was/is a pure photo sharing platform for the most part. It still exists but it's a pale shadow of what it once was with an ever declining base and struggling to make ends meet. My point was regarding the value of images for younger, newer users using these platforms. Clearly more of the Gen Z'ers like to express themselves with video and ordinary cellphone photography than with genuinely great photography. So there are limitations to how much a photography platform grow and if it doesn't grow, it's consigned to just stagnate and die at some stage like so many have. That's why we aren't seeing more such platforms right now. It's just not trendy enough.
@@balajiquiz I see what you mean.
It's too bad that young people with short attention spans are dictating how these platforms must go.
Great video Pat. I really felt that when you said reels/tiktok is 'sugary' content.
Can we go back to 2014 Insta? 😂
lmaooo i hear ya
create a new apk like Instagram from 2014 haha
pre-2012, honestly
You mean before Facebook bought it. Back in 2014, Facebook already owned it.
I miss the days when I could see the photos of the people that follow me. Now, I'm hit with near endless purchase links to stores.
So agree with the either play the game or be at peace with what makes you happy at a photographer.
Yes I agree, and I'm not going to reduce my precious creativity time by having to spend hours shooting and editing footage. I am just not cut out for chasing the hamster-wheel of international popularity. It,s exhausting just thinking about it. I think it will be great for some, but not for others. I like your perspective on this.
as always, to each their own :)
That's what makes Instagram frustrating. It's no longer the same app when they shift to content creation/influencer culture. It wasn't about popularity before. Now people are just so obsessed on creating the perfect shot or making things as if they were perfect.
Thank you so much Pat for letting us know about all this. I went to his tweet and to my surprise there are more than 8k of comments. Too many of them concerned about this change. Not a good one for an old photographer, like me. Regards from Uruguay!
Well put. I’m excited to expand and explore what to create. But like you, I get some much more satisfaction from creating still images. 📸💯🏆
i dont think i'll ever not love photos tbh!
I had been spending less effort and time on Flickr, but with what I've been seeing on IG, I'm just going to stick with it because, like you Pat, I much more prefer still photography.
flickr is such a great place to show off your breadth of your photography. i honestly hate having multiple accounts to show what i'm like, but it is what it is i guess
I've been on Flickr for years and the platform is attempting a revival/renewal. Wishing it good luck.
Flickr should improve its interface to attract more subscribers.
I mean unless they are going to stop allowing photography I just keep posting and have always ignored all these other features.
Adapt or don’t adapt. I’m glad you’re transparent and also honest about your style.
that's it!
I rather not adapt to 1 minute video stupidity. I rather have my art never be seen than having to spend time doing these idiotic video bites. I don't have tiktok for that reason, and except TODAY, I had never, ever clicked on the Reels button on IG. Only after watching this I decided to click it. And I don't care about it at all. I don't like consuming such content, and even more so, creating it. I rather paint.
interesting...many photographers on RUclips posting how they no longer focus on Instagram. They also say Twitter is actually a friendlier community for photographers.
to each their own. tbh all these platforms are big enough that realistically, you can do and be on whever you want and still find success.
Twitter was great when I first started and I made quite a following there but after a while there, it became an incredibly toxic community. Mostly full of depressed teens seeking attention, asking for followers. Lot's of gatekeepers who think they know what photography is actually about. What I found to be annoying the most is seeing photos I don't have any interest in because someone retweeted it and I see the photo 20 times throughout the day. It's not a photography platform just like Instagram isn't. Twitter is making these updates because they are trying to grow too and they know people will flock to Twitter now. I almost bet you that someday Twitter is start pushing video too.
Adam came out on Twitter and clarified that photos will ABSOLUTELY still be important . The crazy part, is IG said it wanted to focus on video years ago but tiktok beat them to the punch for short form video. :)
I hardly ever post to Instagram anymore. I still like creating still images; I print for myself; and I use specific Facebook groups, Flickr, and my own RUclips channel to share them. Even as an amateur, I want to grow my audience but IG seems not to be very viable, especially with all the really repetitive content that seem to get the most views.
I think everyone should just go to Flickr or Tumblr
Can someone develop a medium to display quality photography?
Vero...
@@lengordon2375 There is nobody on Vero. They do not have the mass of users to attract people to the app.
@@simonfernandes6809 Maybe we should all move to Vero... but 500x is a good app for photography.
Not on phones. I put my images up on a big screen the other day. I was blown away. I also can see how shooting for sm has changed my framing as well
@@kurbverobel2112 500x is owned by a state-owned media corporation in China that sell your images for advertising inside China. Get off that platform asap.
I am 💯 with you because all this “content creators” following the current trends are building their business and following on a trend, so what’s gonna happen when the next train and come up around the corner? I reckon everyone should do what they feel is right for them and for me tick-tock and reels are NOT my thing! And yes IG is still he place to post photos, thanks senpai! 🙌🏽
thanks for watching :)
Not being able to easily block streams it’s one of the biggest indicators that Instagram doesn’t care at all about the user.
Good point!
That would be a good feature. A way to customize your own experience and spend more time on the platform. More time watching/reading the things are interesting to you.
i don't know if omitting one single feature means that they don't care about the user in a wholesale fashion. it's just that their primary persona has changed, and unfortunately, it's no longer us as photographers :(
"sugary content!" thank you that's exactly how I would label the content also the reason I don't want to be on tik tok although its booming now. refreshing to see others feel the same, thanks for the great content keep up the great work James- the visual van.
I think Eric Kim has made good points about it in the past. I wouldn’t quite agree with him that one needs to delete their Instagram.
I think he talked about being in other places that people look for inspiration or information like RUclips and providing value and reasons for people to visit your website: Blogs, courses, ebooks, workshop dates etc.
these days, you can really find an audience almost anywhere if you try hard enough! Eric Kim's blog-only approach is a great example of this; one of the best and most trafficked photography blogs out there
I appreciate you talking about what fulfills you. I've run into that problem so many times over the past few years. I actually got to a point where I gave up trying to create photos for Instagram and it seems that's not a bad thing with where the platform is headed. I prefer making videos on youtube, as well, instead of elsewhere.
yeah, creating photos "for instagram" definitely is a difficult thing to put yourself through, and now, in 2021, you definitely need to have a strong reason and resolve to push through the challenge. RUclips is also a very difficult platform to push through too, but as I mentioned in the video, better than the alternative 😂. glad you're diversifying :)
I see a lot of content creators who initially were photogs really enjoying youtube. Once you unlock the community and stories you can actually share photos to subs between videos.
I miss the old Instagram and the older original filters.
ohh man! I'm a beginner at photography and Instagram helped me become a little more "accountable" and excited to share my shots with other people! Im an introvert damn it! we don't do videos!
Very well and thoughtfully put together! Totally agree with the diversification idea and just the whole notion of either not caring/doing your thing = don't complain or play the game and adapt! Love the video as always!
thanks for watching, Mike!
Switching back to posting on Twitter, ARTstreet and maybe Deviant ART. Instagram just isn't worth it anymore. They're more focused on trying to compete with TikTok and follow trends. They're basically falling down the same rabbit hole RUclips is falling down. And now, they're mass-censoring random accounts. I was almost close to hitting 400 followers on Instagram, then the update happened and i went back down to 300. For years, I've been struggling to get my artwork noticed. This just upsets me.
gotta agree...was trying to make a reel today fo Instagram and I just did not have the motivation to grow through this kind of work. GREAT VIDEO!
yeah, feels a little icky, doesn't it?
I was wondering why my photos aren’t getting that much exposure lately, this is horrible.
same! it's frustrating...
@@lylarna6968 I'm such an introvert and don't think I look good in front of a camera. That's why I share my photography work because it's a way for me to showoff my work. now it's all about video because of tik tok. smh
Exactly...all this hard work and hardly any views comments likes etc...
Why bother anymore..
@@TashaJen82 Exactly!!!!
This is a wonderful, concise synopsis Pat. Really appreciate the work you put into making this digestible and comprehensive at the same time.
With that competition I'm not surprised they decided to change the focus. People love video content and we all gotta adapt the new situation!
7:25 "sugary content" that is so perfect, i could not agree more....
Photography still will evolve! I'm doing video too, but on RUclips only.
awesome vid Pat! I too feel I am most fulfilled when creating still images as opposed to video, glad I'm not the only one!
photos forever!
I am sad Instagram is making that move, not really because now I don't have any reach at all, I am just a guy with a cam with no ambitions, but mostly because a lot of great photographers are moving away and I am missing their contents.
ultimately, change is good, even if it's uncomfortable to start with. i'm sure the community will resolve itself soon :)
I think Instagram is trying to compete with Tik Tok and other video apps. I follow many photographers on IG. I hope they don't leave the app. In not trying to grow my channel but I did use the app to post photos. I also have a Flickr account but not everyone does. It seems that fb is ruining everything they get their hands on.
As a photographer/cinematographer this really sucks bc just I started my page in December.. & I mean I’d probably have to focus more on my cinematography but then again if I want to grow I’m probably gonna have to make shitty trendy videos 98% of people watch to grow (cough cough tik tok). But that being said I won’t change the way I make media to please the media. It’s my style & my style only & I’m proud of it.
The problem with photographers on youtube is that you are all youtubers, so you ARE doing video already.
In all these youtube videos you tell use to expand into video, what if we just love photography?
I was using 500px few years ago, then because there were very bad changes on 500px I decided to diversify into 500px/instagram/Deviantart.
In 2021 I am not happy with any of these platforms, I was hoping over the years there will be some new platforms but I don't see them. Facebook was never good idea for photography, twitter is advertised a lot (...by youtubers) but I just don't see it. So I am uploading my photos to 500px/instagram slowly observing death of photography and wonder why free market doesn't work and nobody is creating new photo sharing platform.
Tried Unsplash yet? A bit more fulfilling tbh.
because there's no money in photos. I used to put at least 2 hours of work into every photo only for it to be stolen by repost accounts. the sooner IG dies, the better. you can become a millionaire on TikTok with one right silly video. I have hundreds of good tech photos and didn't make a dime. I don't like working for free, I'd rather not do anything.
So...no more higher Megapixels war Smartphone then 😅🙈
There's a 3rd option: you use it for business but you don't care if it disappears tomorrow.
I stopped caring about growth or creating an audience on Instagram when it became obvious NONE of my jobs ever came from Instagram. I use it to find models or locations or to be tagged in my client's work.
I spent a lot of time trying to grow and following the whole "create value for others" bit. But my effort on Instagram was wasted. People weren't following me because they liked my images, they were following me to get value from me for free. Now I let other people market me instead. Otherwise I become a person who is a full time Instagrammer, not a photographer. Huge difference.
As an artist that just wants to post drawings I am mainly wondering if Instagram will take into account when analyzing accounts if the user prefers image contant as producer but also as consumer. So in my simple mind it would be a good enough option if I am as an image creator would get matched with accounts who want to see image content. And I would also think that would serve Instagram, too, so they could keep both directions.
Interesting approach. I personally endorse your thoughts on this and as a relative newcomer to Instagram, those are sad news. The algorithm is gonna be even more tweaked in favour of reels/ video format and that will make static content (single images, carousel, etc.) scarce on everybody's feeds. I'll probably try to adapt to use reels to show some curiosity stuff like editing process and timelapses at the same time I'll have to build a site or move portfolio somewhere else. Cuz' "that's the way the cookie crumbles" or, as we say here in my country "that's how the band plays". Nice work, Pat! ❤️ from Brazil
'that's how the band plays'. nice, haven't heard that one before! thanks for watching :)
Thanks Pat. Finally started on IG yesterday
good luck on your journey!
I understood his point but I don’t agre with that because the people need choose what is better for them, is not him because as a photographer we make this app grow up, so now is the time to we create a good app for photos
The money is where the general public is. Art-specific social media, geared for artists, don't work. It has to be general interest to get lots of followers and sales.
I might think that "instagram is no longer squared-photos app" Is because they won't update their feature in photo sharing, they're gonna develop video feature instead (add more effrcts, add more filters, add more song lists).
Which means we could still upload photo (and photos carousel) but there won't be any update on the features.
CMIIW
So what platform should painters and photographers move to?
.....been waiting on this answer for a while now???
Yeah, good riddance. A social site that forces me to use an app to upload my images, and don't even allow me to use the most important format (3:2) is DOA to me.
if that's your requirements, then yeah for sure, instagram isn't a good fit for you and you're probably better off without it :)
I definitely agree with the things you mentioned. Read the comments as well and I would agree to most who say that Facebook kinda ruined this platform... Likewise, I also believe that this is part of their strategy for growth but they should have at least considered those who are sticking to this app to grow. Let's just hope for better things to come in the future
Too many platforms nowadays and that's why I believe sticking to 1 or max 2 as a creator is better.
Instagram killed my love for photography. Too much stupidity and barely any likes on my photos... so what's the point?
I wonder what will happen to the 500 photos i have uploaded since 2015. Will they be all deleted….should people start saving all their photos on ig now
But photographers in Instagram make their own community even without reels. Naturally.
good point.
Twitter works fairly well. Chronological feed. Active photography community. Much better option than Instagram.
yeah, im considering getting more active on there myself... but i feel kind of stretched thin already 😂
Twitter…the most toxic, vile, disgusting place on earth? The place where you say the wrong thing and a mob attacks you and ruins your life? That Twitter?
@@ferretapocalypse I haven't had that experience at all. It's been positive. I don't follow any political channels just photography.
Twitter is so toxic!!!
@@ferretapocalypse 👆 This.
Instagram is not a good app to share photos any longer. Since Facebook got it, it’s more of a gossiping kinda app. They mess with our photo resolutions and sizes.
hard truths but very good points to be totally honest , I think I will have to assess what I want from instagram if growth isnt the fundamental indicator to personally determine success with my work
sitting with yourself and asking those tough questions are always worth it in the end :)
As a model I love taking photos, not making quick video content. But I do want to grow to work with brands… there’s no winning for me right now lol
Thanks for telling it like it is Pat. IG is no longer an app for still image photographers.
Hmmm 🤔 ... Funny how I'm still sharing photos on IG, and don't watch video on IG, and I also don't use Facebook for posting photos.
It's also funny how I don't notice this "slow death", and notice more people using IG for posting photos.
Is this "slow death" like the death of analogue photography and the "slow death" of DSLRs ?
Let's revitalize the VERO app
Ok reels is one thing, but what about regular feed now..? If IG favorites video on Reels what do you think we should post on feeds..? Videos also?
Thank you for talking about this! 💛
thanks for watching :)
Photography isnt going out of style, its how you use it and finding a good outlet media site which lately is lacking. I see potential for a new social media outlet🤔
See I feel the same way. I always think still photography. When I go out shooting, I almost never think about video and I do try it sometimes to make videos but like you, I never feel fulfilled doing those little reels/tiktok videos. Sometimes I feel fulfilled when I make RUclips videos, maybe because Google actually pays me to use their platform rather than Instagram/Twitter. But I never get the same enjoyment when I try to make videos. I mean don't get me wrong, I think video is cool with all the crazy things you can do with it and like you said, the process of it but its just not fulfilling as still photography is. Seeing all these headlines made me worry that still photography is dying and photography will just become videos and that made me really sad but I don't believe that. I think photography as us photographers know it will continue to live on forever and there will always be people who enjoy a good ol' fashioned still photo and not some stupid tiktok video. Haha. Thanks Pat for speaking the truth!
Too be honest, as a hobbyist, I'd love for photography to become a niche hobby once again and not be caught up in this social media hype bubble. I feel like the media for keeping memories, from photo albums, to online albums, instagram, videos, is the thing that inevitably evolves over time. But photography as an art form, much like paintings and sculpture, will stay for much longer.
I really appreciate you sharing your perspective and advice regarding the change that's been happening, and the further change to come, to Instagram. Thank you.
"Not Fur filling" is the best way to describe it. I finally made the decision to just go the RUclips route. Sad day for sure.
YT defintely is better than the alternatives out there, but i still wish there was something specifically dedicated for photography :(
I joined Instagram in 2021. It’s poetic really. I have wanted to do more video though… meh I don’t know. Nice insights.
Damn I deleted IG off my phone awhile ago and once I wanted to download IG again. Everything is changed haha. But great tips and also this video gave me some motivation to film content🙏🏼
hope you enjoy the film man!
Your videos are very substantial. Love them. Very informative and constructive.
Really love the the way you look at social media platforms. Very good video. Agree with you much.
Flickr is much better for photographers than Instagram. They do not butcher your beautiful photos like the popularity contest of instagram.
My problem with Instagram is I can never get certain pictures to fit in the square without cutting parts out. Then I have to use a app called squarefit but I feel that takes away from the photo. Any advice
Great vid Pat! Always loved your tips and insights. Any thoughts on Tiktok being the new way for photographers to create content like how film makers show behind the scenes of their work?
in that specific case, personally i wouldn't call them photographers anymore lol. just content creators. yes, the distinction is important (i'll probably talk about this in a future video), but if you/those people feel fulfilled by doing said content, then go for it! no wrong answers here
I have made a commitment to really learn photography this year. I want to becoming a better photographer and possibly make an income from it in the future. If you are photography first creator what platform do you recommend to share photos?
as i mention in the video, still Instagram. but in 2021, try to have an eye on supplementary platform as well!
do videos/videography instead, photography is oversaturated, no one needs another photographer.
do you think they would accually not allow you to post a photo on ig eventually? i dont think so. i still see alot of photos daily, if so they need to make flickr or somethimg popular again
We get onto VERO
It’s for Artist and photographer
Since instagram wants to promote reels then start doing BTS reels from photo shoots. I think making BTS videos and showing the process of creating your photos instead of just the result or final photo is going to be more important. Tiktok and reels would be good for quick b roll style sequences of BTS from photoshoots.
Nailed it dude. Very well said
ty brah! look at us non-tiktokers lel
I'm a new artist that hates Instagram so the news for me is a relief that it suddenly more acceptable to not use it for my photography. And yet I feel for everyone that put in so much effort into their channels and then get this giant slap in the face from Instagram.
I’m also new but wished I had known this at the start of 2021 before I actually start IG. It’s even harder for artists that takes 24+ hours on a piece of art work and now they have to record and edit just to help IG beat a Chinese app? I’m ok with video but I rarely interact with them on IG and TikTok. I prefer RUclips for videos. As a result I plan to have multiple platforms, like RUclips or Pinterest. not throwing all my eggs in one basket.
I’m 7 minutes into this video and just subscribed. I believe I will enjoy your content! 💜💜💜
i have found out that behance is good for me to upload a series the way i want to show it.
So as a photographer who uses Instagram what does this mean? Is here other popular apps that respectfully appreciate photography?
Hey, I just started doing instagram and here are these news.
Nice video. Can you share on what platform you'll switch to or tell us what is the photo first platform (instagram is still no.1) next to instagram??
i'll still be on instagram for sure. as for the second, well, i honestly have no idea unfortunately!
I post behind the scenes stuff on my feed mainly, and it is a way of speaking to an audience that already knows me. I don't get more work from it, so if it should tank, meh.
Pat, can you share some examples of photography first creators who have taken up reels successfully?
yk
@@breaddddd Saw his profile, he's doing so good. Thank you.. Any others?
@@anshbka1 Yea yk is really the big example in my mind of someone whose account has absolutely blown up. No other photographers I follow have really widely adopted reels. Maybe just 2 a month or something, if that. Kohki and Jerometraveller might be two others on a smaller scale?
@@breaddddd I see, thank you for the names, going to check them out!
Very insightful look at the situation
Brilliant vid Pat, do you see another app coming into the game soon in the future which will take only photography and video?
Pexels
honestly, probably not. at least not in a meaningful way in the next couple of years. too many apps and tried and failed, been and gone. instagram time and time again just proves how big it really is
@@patkay the problem is that if you launch an app you are playing against the big fishes. The main thing is that you don't want an app for photographers, you want an application which shares photos of photographers also to people which are basically far from this way of communication and art. I have been honestly thinking to something but I do not have the knowledge to develop an app
@@tommydee7806 That’s exactly right. The appeal of IG is everyone uses it. If you create a photographer focused app for photo sharing, you might get 0.5% of the potential audience you might get on IG
The whole reason I never joined Instagram for the longest time (until I started photography) was because it WAS a photo sharing app, 😂.