Care leavers - what happens when they turn 18? | 5 News
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► For any young person, leaving home and starting to live independently is a huge milestone. But what if your childhood has been spent in different foster placements or children's homes? How do you learn to manage if your early life has been so disrupted?
That's the reality for more than 10,000 young people coming out of care every year. Having been looked after - sometimes by many carers - suddenly, they're expected to become adults overnight.
A 5 News investigation has found local authorities are struggling to pay for support for care leavers - and that's having a damaging effect on those teenagers at the sharp end.
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I was dumped by social services at the age of 18, they told me I had to move out of my foster home a week after I turned 18, if it wasn’t for my amazing foster mother I really don’t know what I would have done, or I wouldn’t be the person I am today 😊
They let me out at 15 when I wasn’t even old enough for a hostel. When I was 18 and old enough for a hostel room it was around £1500 rent and minimum wage for my age was about £2 or £3 per hour. We’re f*ck from the start. I’m 27 and still struggling because of this sh*t start. No one seems to understand how bad it is and it’s happening right under peoples noses.
Army would be a good choice. My pal who grew up in foster care got all university, rent, allowance paid for until he left education.
@@MrJeffHeadthe problem is why the hell would we fight to protect a country that doesn't even care about us?
I've thought about it long and hard. If the government is able to pay foster carers up to 18k a year per child, why couldn't that money be spent on actually helping low income single mothers rather than scrutinizing and demonising them.
I’m a care leaver and this hits me so hard..
keep up the music bro
I am care leaver to maybe we should start our own chat online group that people like us can log on and talk about their experience
after 14 years of foster care i was put into supported accomodation on the other side of manchester when i turned 18. i'm now 19 and its my second week where ive gone without food. i feel so isolated and relate to all these people so much. wish i could talk to more people who knows what this feels like.
@@sleepybeats. hey I’m also care leaver has it got any better
respect to you connor
I hate the idea if santions, it comes from old Victorian/workhouse mindsets of punishing the poor with worse poor situation, and call it "motivation/encouragment". Makes me so angry that we can do this to the most vunerable in our society. The whole narrative of poor people being blamed for being poor is nonsense, as if it's a personal failing not a situational or structural failing. In a fair society no one would need to worry about food or housing.
Very well said indeed, I 100% agree with you.
Omg 18 is so young to just get thrown out into the world ALONE!! 💔💔💔
Omg Jamal and his sisters should never have been taken. That’s disgusting. How can the people who did that live with themselves.
I am so lucky this didn’t happen to me and my daughter and 16 years later she’s just passed all her GCSE and she’s off to college to become a criminal psychologist don’t underestimate a mothers love and determination to brake the cycle
I wish all these young soles the very best fortune
What about the children that are removed from loving birth families falsely and the parents want them back age 18 ? that would save the local authority thousands of pounds so give the support back to parents
You have a good point. This is what happened to me at 14 years old i was taken away from my parents and put in foster care all because my parents had refused medical treatment for me. I know this sounds strange but I did end up returning back home will fully and kind of regret it because I want to move into my own place but its much harder but if I had stayed in foster care I think the process would've been faster...
Exactly that's what happened to me as well, I'd been in care myself and my children well 2 of them got taken into care because I had a breakdown I'm still fighting to get my son back, my eldest got dropped like a stone when she was 16 from her Foster mother because she didn't go to college, so I helped her out (obviously) She's now 19 with her own place and job
This is why people who leave care go to dangerous routes to get money when universal credit don’t do what they are supposed to and help us
Job is the best choice. Don't rely on universal credit
@@MrJeffHeadit’s extremely hard to gain employment after being in the care system
This has to change. Having experienced living next to a care leaver I can honestly say these kids are far too young to be living in their own. There needs to be long term care plans for after they leave care to slowly allow them to adapt to living independently. Just being responsible for bills as well as working and running a home is often far too much responsibility for these youngsters to handle. Often they have mental health issues from their upbringing that need addressing. This often impacts their ability to manage day to day. Aside that Surly allowing these kids to fend for themselves makes them extremely vulnerable to predators and abusers. Why can we not assign life long social workers for those who want or need them? Why is there no life long term care plan in place for these kids? It’s so sad to think they’re left to fend for them selves by the councils. These kids /young adults need someone behind them, to believe in them and to help steer them from the bumps and tribulations life throws at us. I can only imagine the system in place must make these kids feel like their on their own. This must bring up so many buried emotions. We must do better that this! How is this preventing any chance of future damage leaving these kids to fend for them selves.
They are not abandoned. Try reading the Leaving Care Act 2000 before you comment. There is a lot of help out there for care leavers. Many do not want the support as they want to do their "own thing" and blame everyone else when "their own thing" goes wrong. I know this from personal experience. You have one side of the story here!
Facts I’m a care leaver myself in Ireland I’m in a semi independent place but I’m still kinda just left to do things myself
@@kelliejackson3563 we are abandoned
My heart ❤️ goes out to this teens that are literally on their own at 16! There still babies! In the US it’s 18 years old and they are not thrown out of their homes! Their parents are helping them and supporting them to get ready for college! For 4 years they are still under their parents care!
My heart breaks for Calum, i understand his anxiety about going outside 💔
Thank you for this documentary !
Government need to make help more accessible for young people, I'm so grateful the support workers and teachers I've had were really helpful, They would spend their own money for essentials and food.
The government helped create this problem. You can’t honestly think the government will help fix this problem.
Saunya Harris as someone who’s had a bad experience in care, I only had one good staff member.
The company I live with are shit, they only see u as a document
I’m a care leaver myself I can relate to this a lot man I been through a lot myself I’ve seen a lot of fake friends aswell
Bless you Jade n family...you keep on fighting darling - you WILL WIN.♡♡♡
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They wanted me to live with the person who was emotionally abusing until 19 . Put my foot down and she almost put me on the streets because I had enough and threatened to go back to my birth family who actually wanted me
Please say you went back to your birth family 😢
@@emmaevans4919 nope but the good news is I found them and I’m never ever going to let go of them again
Social services don't see a young person needing help they just see a case that's being dealt with and move on to the next case it's disgusting
So the system hasn't changed at all I still get nightmares and I'm alot older then these poor kids to this day the system is still letting me down
We Need More Women Like These & Hope These Young People Are In Better Places Now
Too many people getting rich off this system, while the young people who need structure and facilities are left behind.
My heart breaks for jamal he’s trying hard to change his life but the system makes it hard for him to succeed 😭😭😭
my god this is hart breaking, my situation is so much different than the kids who have being in the care system. I was born middle class and grow up in a good home but when it comes to access services because of my background my mum who was a snr staff nurse and my dad who was in a high paid job in London mental health workers dont want to help you
I was in care but got adopted but that didn't work out I ended up back in care then got my first flat when I was 14 going on 15 due to special circumstances, social services literally gave me a weeks worth of food then left me to it ,I was lucky I managed on my own I'm now 41
That was heart breaking
All children deserve the best start in life ❤🍞🍶
Lot of care leave can't keep there new Bron baby . It had to me . I never had this helps when I leave care age 16
Universal credit is broken system not good at all
Seems they system hasn't changed there is no support for care leavers there wasn't 20 years ago when I left and there isn't now
For Libertys case the social workers are supposed to provide the money for him till he gets his payment
Could be different with different local authorities financial policies
The system has always been broken!
The government barely helps us survive thats the harsh truthe after leaving care and turning 18
Mild bipolar never heard of it I'm bipolar split personality attachment disorder ptsd and add I never heard mild bipolar learn something new every day hope all go well jade with your beautiful boy
Mild bipolar is just another way to describe Bipolar type 2
18 years old is far too young to be let go, there needs to be job training so they learn to be independent and also help along the way, if this was done there would be far more problems down the road but government has to care first
Sweet fanny Adams that what happens they ment to give u help get flat exsetra but most time they dont u end up in ymca or some bed sit or on streets and UK social can use ur files even when they say they lost them to justify takeing ur kids off u insted of giving help if needed
The new solution now is "stay put" with the carers i dont agree with it as some children dont wish to stay put some wish to return home some wish for their own place but this method saves the councils thousands of pounds in accommodation and unfairly pushes youngsters onto benefits so they can pay the carers lodge
Removing children while the mother is in the shower......wowwwww they were so at risk......I wonder what her crime was?? Feeding her children strawberries perhaps or a malicious referral - LISTEN TO THE CHILDREN he says his mother raised him properly; why then were they removed??
oh dear, you are very easily manipulated. NO way was he telling the truth ffs!
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What time is the curfew for 16 year olds in care?
about ten depends where you live mine was between half 9 and 10
The law has recently changed before the law changed mine was 10 n now I don’t have one
Its 11 where I live
Mine was whenever the fuxk I want
@@framclean7910 hahaha me aswell...bless bro
The key thing that so many people seem to miss, is don't miss an appointment! Call up and check regularly when your appointments are. 🤷♀️
Rachel B •Farmiga Fan• I think that’s a little close minded for you to just make that comment
A lot of the appointments are online journal. I’m lucky I have a smartphone with internet or I’d be screwed if they changed my appointment and I didn’t know about it. Or if they don’t have a phone/access
Peoples thoughts on child trafficking?
They dont give a shit about care leavers i should know as i am one
take care : care take @ then now
Does this shit happen in the us
Yes. When a child reaches a certain age they are no longer part of the care system. Which is stupid because they still need help before they can be independent
yes. it does.
all and same in boat my hall same all ann hall me rowing it thoe
Can't go in tesco because of anxiety but had no problem with going on TV and speaking to the presenter about his life. And saying as so many care leavers he's starting his life off in debt?? That's a lie. From the date you make your application for universal credit you have to wait 5 weeks but get that backdated so your first payment is more than double. Also you get a leaving care grant of £2500 for essential items for a new place and anything left over is yours to do with as u like. You also have the social services that can give you emergency money and support upto the age of 25 even paying for any course you find and having to relocate you if necessary. . I'm a care leaver and was in hostels from 16 to 21 and then when I got my first flat I lost it within 2 years but that was down to my own fault. I think the council I was under do more than enough. And it's normally down to the people who they hang around with and lack of motivation.
Must be nice sitting on your high horse looking your nose down at people.
@@shanfarco1574 👍
As a care leaver who is a qualified social worker in Northern Ireland and mainland Britain you are WRONG on so many levels here
Every trust has different policies and procedures in regards to finance
Universal credit ARE meant to back date the payment but this persons relevant trust ISNT required to
Instead of judging people who are raising awareness to the difficulties that care experienced kids faced like you and me try to have some empathy
I can almost guarantee you pushed away the service and didn’t accept the help you could’ve gotten from 16-21
Crack on mate your time until 25 is running out fast
Kids in Northern Ireland only get until 21 to make it into uni
@Andrea Falstead to tom the original poster
Literally everything you said here is LIES I know this as a Care leaver myself you should be ashamed of yourself why lie and say you're a care leaver whe you're clearly not ?
the 18 year old girl with the new baby had a pack of cigarettes on her coffee table. I no longer have any sympathy for her. She will continue to make stupid decisions. The child will suffer. How dare she buy cigarettes when she can not afford her own bills.
She needs educated, not criticised. The stick approach will not work when they have never known any other life.
Children are commodities unfortunately. The money they accumulate whilst children and funding they get all of these entities can only be continued if they get these people to become commodities in their adult age either through criminalisation or mental health. At which point, these children re enter the system and the planned for institutionalised cycle completes and starts again with the children of these childrens children.
Sanctioning an 18 year old is like telling them to go and sell drugs or their body. Well done Gov! 🤦🏻♀️
what happens when dole money stops men like me and brothers having naturally healthy kids the way thay r made x is a gift from G like my self had a car crash wake up year missing
People need to be screened for breeding.
Could they go back to they parents
No never
@@nadzworld698 Yes they can actually, if they want to or if their parents allow them. The only reason they cannot go back is if there are safety issues concerning any young siblings in the house. But once a care leaver turns 18 then yes, they can go back to their parents as they are deemed "adults"
@@kelliejackson3563 you realise that some care leavers literally dont have parents?
They are dead.
No because the parents are usually shit parents
God almighty.. the system damaging this young adults.. universal creadit should give him advance money so he can buy food and fare .. that's why you see the young ppl jumping train gates the have no mone to pay a tickets. God help out children 🙏
Callum also gettng pip so when not sanctioned he on over grand month even in cost living u can survive on half that bet doesn't get panic attacks scoring spice also universal credit can come to u
g rant money grant money care full you say may become sum others credit your words when con text are twisted in 2 grants g rants
watt womans monthly sacrifice is paying him dole ? the job center my center job being tortured to pay dole health social care act 2012 our anniversary from that year sacrifice our social life working to pay peep holes our kids our work energy because they live a life of luxury all because po box fines a way
they dont care its a load off bull shi
The girl will lose her baby. Social workers are devil incarnated. They are cruel and destroy families and traumatise adults and children. Most the kids were removed from their parents unnecessarily and unlawful. What the social workers or any one can do? These care leavers had been treated without love most of their lives and separated from the ones they love.
Yeah true, I’m going back to my family and leaving this shithole
Social workers saved me from repeated rape and violence. You don't know what you are talking about.
Simply false
@@tomatofeind2019 thank you! As a social worker so many people view us as child snatchers
What they don’t tell you is that they have been neglecting their kids
I hope you’re recovering well
bullshit!
Its not all about abuse families its the lies admitted to being illegally taken yet as a parent your name is blackened illegally.all to do with late husbands mother who didn't want her own.lied conived stole.
Where do they live at 18
Hostels/semi independent living or the streets.
@@ShionAkasuki Supported living is another
@@danielgoff7078 supported living is also called semi independent.
@@ShionAkasuki so so so false
If you are on a pathway to university they pay for the entirety of your rent which could be private land lord or student halls
The kids who live in hostels often reject support available and are happy enough to stay on UC
@@Jnigo It's not false. And I'm on about people who leave care. So care leavers, I'm not on about university some people can't even get it so yeah.
As someone who's lived in semi independent I wanted help but there was none provided the one I use to go to was poorly set up so I packed what I needed to take with me left by letting them know sofa surfed a couple of times and eventually settled into my own home with my partner and son so I guess it's different for everyone.
Twenty one, playing video games when that time should be used to improve your life. Then when labels are placed on someone that make the situation worse. Why must we open our minds? Why don’t the victim open their minds?
Have you missed the part saying that he has been regularly beaten as a child? He is not a functional adult. He is broken. Some people are not privileged enough to have a normal start in life. It is our job to help them and it is horrible to say that it is his fault.
I agree with you Inerys well said 😊
as a care leaver all i can say is stfu and stay in your lane you know f all about what being in the system does to your mind...they took me from my ma put me in care with a women who abused me sexually along with her son.tell me that after something like that could you just carry on as if nothing happened??...bet you couldn't you pos.
@@joeking7707 you'll always be a victim then.
Easy to judge when your own life and upbringing was so nice, isn't it?
*Disgusting poor breeding rabbit fest .*