This !!! They locked active wrestlers, old game modes, caw parts and even music tracks behind a paywall. Their “live service” meant charging for content that should’ve been in the game from day one.
Why would anyone trash it? Nobody bought the game, still played it and/or didn't care about DLC in the first place. Bad DLC practices only matter for games that matter, cause you want the DLC.
Early on when it was actually relevant they were probably worried about horses of AEW stans bothering them (now that the game and AEW are dead not so much)
what killed the game for me was the entrance videos, yes they wanted to make it feel like wwf no mercy, but the reason they had short entrances is due to memory limitation.AEW had no excuse
yeah I understood but disliked that about No Mercy, Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW/NWO revenge had the full entrances...when people have nostalgic fondness for all the aspect of No Mercy...the short entrances are bottom of the list
I think one big problem the game has is that they wanted to make a wrestling game and went “but what if we put Mario party mini games in it” taking up resources and man power to make something that feels like bloat in the game and that no one wants to play. Yeah instead of giving us more characters let’s put more useless mini games in! Yeah as some one who bought day one I was so disappointed.
Nah they used handdrawn models instead of mocap also didnt focus on single player instead focused more on online with the stadium stampede but couldnt release it on time. They should have just contacted the moral kombat devs and make a proper brutal wrestling game
I was one of the people who bought the “Elite Edition” when it got announced and thought all future DLC would be free but for whatever reason it wasn’t. Just wanted to us to spend more money than we already did for buying the most expensive option
Yes. Say what you want about WWE 2K but at least with their DLC, you get your money's worth and once you get a season pass, you get their DLC for free.
@@jeremywilliams5141Yeah I had bought the wrestlemania 40 edition of wwe2k24 that was the first time I bought the most expensive edition and I got my moneys worth every dlc comes free got the game 3 days early every showcase mode superstar was already unlocked and so was the arenas you had to purchase with vc and the superstars plus titles
I always found it funny how AEW fans were happy Yukes were making fight forever because they made no mercy. But somehow they forgot that they also made all the wwe games that they hated.
But the good Games that they made outweigs the bad games by a Lot. For the WWE Games I played from Yukes I played hundreds of hours, because there was a lot to do.
They really released the game 1.5 years too late , had they released it when Wwe 2k20 DISASTERCLASS was still veey fresh , they would have had more Audience but the positive success of Wwe 2k22 onwards really made Market less for them , and they Bombed thd game features also ngl
Even when AEW was at its “peak” I still don’t think they had the audience to justify making this game & they’ve tried to milk anyone who did buy the game with overpriced DLC of wrestler’s who should have originally been in the game .. It’s not like a WWE game where even if you weren’t up to date with the product you can still play with the Legends or HOF guys… When it’s free on PS+ after less than a year you know your in bother ..
I saw this game free on the ps+ store, played half a match where I was pento el zero miedo vs Jon moxley, and deleted the game. It’s absolute garbage. Sorry AEW but your game sucks a$$
@@demonhead1610 yea I wouldn’t even bother it’s terrible. The controls are wonky AF and the button mashing for pins is atrocious. Wwe has mastered the pin mechanic for years now so I have no clue why tf fight forever uses button mashing. The graphics are very poor and look like an arcade game you’d spend 8 tokens on to play. Also they have no franchise mode for some reason and the create your character mode looks boring af. Overall it’s not worth your time. Just play wwe if you wanna play a wrestling game
The irony is that Fight Forever is a microcosm of AEW as a whole. It has good “match types” and “exhibitions” but not a lot of content and nothing is really fleshed out. Then during the matches, they’re poorly executed because of bugs (botches) and the graphics aren’t that good (the physiques of the wrestlers). Then the only “story” you really have had to do with the Elite and it sucks because it’s the same shit for five years and was bad in the beginning it was just new at the time. And much like the game itself, AEW has never been bigger than the first day it showed up.
I think it was genuinely mismanaged that poorly. The company milked TK cause Omega didn't know how to create a game. He was in over his head. By the time they realized this, it was too late
Aside from its story mode basically just being Kenny's otaku Yakuza wet dream, with almost zero actual correct characterization of what the wrestlers themselves are really like, the actual gameplay has the quality of a bad N64 title. Its a demake. Literally the only reason anyone would defend it is for one reason, and one reason only, brand loyalty. And that is a terrible defence for a product being bad.
I knew when I was playing 2K23 and had no AEW fight forever that I probably wouldn't play much of this game, and only 20 hours later I have stopped and kept playing 2K. The game just got added to June's PS plus catalog and heard from a bunch of friends that don't play wrestling games that they think this game sucks.
I still feel robbed Pre-Ordered the game spent $80 for it played it for two days and never touched it again it was honestly the worst experience the worst let down that I've ever had out of a wrestling game
The trailer and pre release footage was awful, fans we're dellusionally hyping it up pretending it was the best thing since Here Comes the Pain when anyone with a brain knew it looked undercooked... they do the same thing when it comes to the weekly shows
the problem with this game and AEW in general is that it was needed when wwe was in a low point, people only liked AEW because wwe was awful at the time in real life and videogames but look how wwe is now
All Kenny had to do was tell Yuke's and Geta to make No Mercy/HCTP with AEW wrestlers. Instead, we got a half-assed game with unnecessary mini games. If I wanted to play mini games, I'd boot up Mario Party.
i heard a theory (and have no reputable proof so don’t quote me on this) that the mini games could’ve been what Omega and Yukes had the disagreements about. specifically, people think Omega REALLY wanted the mini games in the game, but Yukes was against it.
So much promise, they should have just imported the CAW suite base from No Mercy. When they talked about the blocks I thought career mode would be like no mercy where you had over 100 archs depending on W/L.
Right? I swear I hope that company burns down for this, smdh I even payed the season pass only to have two jobbers I never heard of , Matt Hardy and tazz kid , some clown dude with powers and some girl that’s not even in the roster. Sigh don’t get me started with the stupid ass minigames , lack of game modes hell match in menu options, no selling, trash 🗑️, an AKI game this is not.
I knew from the beginning this game was gonna bomb... people thought no mercy sounded fun on paper until people realized the days of that style of gameplay is long over...2k now has the perfect blend of arcade and sim.
It isn't really No Mercy gameplay anyway. It is Yukes' gameplay, and arguably not even one of the better incarnations of that, which has been further altered into some weird AEW interpretation.
The gameplay was fun though atleast in single player. The story mode was atrocious with no branching narratives like those old wwe games had and zero backstage stories too.
@@BainesMkIIPress X/A = Light grapple, hold X/A = strong grapple, that's basically the "No Mercy" system when anyone ever says a game is No Mercy-esque. THE THING IS, everyone hyped this game up as being based on HCTP gameplay and no the hell it isn't.
It was during AEW's honey moon phase when everybody would excuse anything they did. People would excuse their ps2 graphics by saying it was an art style and some would even say they were very realistic.
But sometimes I feel that nowadays we didn't mind much about graphics. And we always miss old retro graphics isn't it ? Always love Mdickie wrestling game.
The irony of a company whose wrestlers’ move sets are largely inspired by the create a wrestler feature in wrestling games, having a terrible create a wrestler mode shouldn’t be understated.
There has to be another game where there's: 1. More fluid and fun gameplay 2. A longer, more interactive Story mode 3. More creations 4. Better online play and features 5. More match types if need be 6. Stadium Stampede is offline 7. No more minigames 8. Yes, even a GM Mode
This game hurt my soul. I have never been more hyped for a game to be so severely let down. I paid the full $60 upon release, and knew I had been hosed within a couple of hours. Lost all respect for Kenny as a gamer too. As a hard-core gamer in charge of the product, he knew it was wrong what they did.
I did had faith in this game in the beginning but when half the roster is not in the game and it pretty much felt it was a rush job and i find it funny in the Playstation store the game has a 2.3 star rating.
Yeah, after I unlocked all the characters the game just was boring. Also to level up your creations you have to play Road to the Elite. Which sucked as it's not that fun after 3 or 4 runs.
Just play WWE2k games and add in AEW, AAA, CMLL, NJPW, TNA, and whoever and whatever else content via content creation downloads. Best way to play a AEW game!
The biggest problem is they have too many gamers that were in Tony's ear and talked him into making a game before their brand was established enough to license out to a game company that'd pay for it all.
I say this without any hyperbole: This is one of of, if not the worst video game(s) of all time. The game fights you the entire time you are trying to play it with some of the worst controls I've ever seen, looks ugly as sin, lacks any soul and seems to exist just to sell DLC. I mean FFS you know you've fucked up when they give away the game as a freebie with your PS5 sub, A YEAR AFTER ITS RELEASE. When I took it to gamestop to get it the hell out of my house, I was legit surprised they offered me money for it, instead of asking for money to take it off my hands.
For all the criticism GameStop gets, it sure seems like they did you a favor. I was also pleasantly surprised at the trade-in I got, I half expected them to tell me "we don't want this s**t."
I remember when this game was announced people were like "this is what wrestling games should be, it's gonna be better than 2k!!" When they said it would be like wwf no mercy I didn't think they would mean graphics wise
It’s better to just get 2K24 if you didn’t get 2K22 or 23. Not only are there some great creations, there’s also stages, arenas, logos, etc. Plus, the game brought back the ramp camera from the earlier SmackDown games.
Worst preorder of my life. I got 38 hrs into it. I love Owen hart and couldn’t stomach enough matches to unlock him. And the dlc prices were predatory as eff. Tony Kahn owes me $80
You're good. Not off topic cause he did mention that. 2k22 wasn't just good it was great. The wrestling video game space is mimicking IRL. This game got the attention it did because WWE games sucked, but now that they're good again, AEW is an after thought.
I told people it was going to be rubbish but they wouldn't listen. Bare bones game and then the audacity to have 4 season passes with barely any extra content is crazy. I had no idea it was free on plus this month as I no longer have plus but I doubt I'd ever play it.
The minute with subtitles popping on the screen was annoying, but the video was pretty solid. I'm pretty sure you can pick up a copy of this atrocity for $5 at Walmart now, if not, Gamestop.
Imagine a AEW Wrestling Game like Smackdown vs RAW with modern 2K Visuals and a good Campaign for every Pillar & a Crazy Womans Campaign. Please try again with Guys who know Gaming, Not Kenny
We shouldve known it was gonna be bad after their first tryout at gaming with elite gm. That was also a disaster and they pulled it from app stores after 1 year.
The Fact that AEW fight forever Made WWE2k20 looked a little cooler by comparison I mean 2k20 had tons of glitches heck they even had the Seasonal Pass that looked cool For my opinion for AEW I wish they could have done 1. They could've made entrances longer and more exciting 2. More backstage areas like brawls outside the ring like in the crowds or hell even go everywhere 3. More Arenas 4. Longer and better road to elite storylines that made sense 5. Updates wrestlers 6. Have a better pin Meter instead of just pressing buttons hoping and the chances of kicking out 7. A better stadium stampede
I was so hype to play this game since its release but always talked myself out of it due to high DLC prices and large backlash. Snagged it for free last week on PS5. For a free game, its extremely entertaining for about 30 minutes. I just could not imagine paying more than $15 for the game in its current state though. Add the damn DLC wrestlers in for free geezuz) I also compared it to another game that released horribly with bugs, being Fallout 76. The MAJOR difference though, is that Bethesda never gave up in trying to add to that game and get players back. Even to this day that game is loaded with content that I did not have to pay extra to use. (FARRR from perfect, but very enjoyable) This game though, has doubled down on trying to sell you content as if it was the best and most anticipated game of all time. You would think they would want to get this game in everyone's hands and keep dumping content updates on them. Just does not add up.
It's clear they didn't try. Probably why WWE had drop Yuke's in the first place. Most of the time when you play some of the old games from Yuke's they have the same customization and nothing really felt different. It took them over a year with 2k to make the customization better and they had to skip over a year just to fix everything. AEW made a decent game but they really drop the ball.
I bought the elite edition thinking I would get all the dlc like a season pass. When I found out I was sadly mistaken I deleted the game and never went back 😂
As someone who has been involved in game development, AEW Fight Forever feels very half-baked, and I have a hunch things fell through, cause let's be real, building a game engine from the ground up costs a lot more than use an existing engine like Unreal to create your dream game ideas. And how ironic that only the gameplay is decent, cause that reflects AEW all so well. Another reason why this game failed, I think the hype machine may have also backfired in this aspect. WWE 2K was in a slump, and the thought of an AEW game hitting it out of the park, that was the perfect situation for any AEW hardliner fan. They get an enjoyable game, but more importantly, they get to flip WWE a massive middle finger, which honestly is the only thing these hardliner fans care about these days. The game's lackluster presentation, combined with the resurgence of WWE 2K with its 2023 iteration, talk about a massive hit to the egos of these hardliners. In summary, what I think contributed to the failure of Fight Forever is the undercooked state of the game, combined with overhyped expectations from its audience. Honestly, I personally believe the game should be given another year to polish up the game engine first, and with the benefit of hindsight, seeing WWE 2K 2023 work so well could have allowed them to take notes and further touch up on their own game project. Although even so, these AEW hardliner fans are most certainly the hardest people to please, so the game project was probably doomed from the start.
I think I played it for about 10 hours - I bought the most expensive edition, wanted the Hardyz etc. Uninstalled it after 10 hours and not touched it since. Was really excited for it.
i wrote a parallel world fanfiction about AEW Fight Forever on the N64 where it uses the N64 GBC connector and the Gameboy Card Reader to get new fighters from trading cards and they suggest a battle mode where two people buy a pack and draft a team and run a tournament on an episode of Dynamite.
I’ve been playing universe mode with my myplayer, and if I’m being honest I’m still not bored of it😭❤️💯. Since they added more things since release , like the little things example Samantha as a ring announcer. Dawg when she says my character name *chef kiss* azreal “the anarchist” black😈🔥. Can’t forget about community creations either. Wwe definitely did their job on 2k24. Now aew imma be honest I played the game for a cool month then deleted it so I can free up storage 💀
This game even if given more time could not have matched WWE creation suite which was built upon for a decade if not more. They should’ve just nixed it altogether and provided a wardrobe feature where updated attires could be obtained from a downloadable shop thus given players access to new attires for people like Jungle Boy, Christian, Luchasaurus etc. they also shouldn’t have wasted resources on mini games which was not needed. Instead they needed more match types, a backstage brawl, more wrestlers, added announcers and more resources into their career or a universe mode. The foundation of the game is solid there just isn’t enough to do
Yukes made the best games WWE ever had. 2K just has good graphics other than that, their games are kinda boring. AEW FF Sucks but don’t put that stink on yukes cause they definitely gave us classics
i remember two of my friends saying we should all buy fight forever the day it drops. i didn't. i don't know if they did but they never brought it up again. recently i saw the disc version at walmart for $10
Considering production started before wwe 2k22 came out, people were pretty excited since the last 2k game was buggy and just overall not fun, and the 2k battlegrounds was just awful. So yeah people were really excited for this
Game really lacks content that you'll get easily bored by the game in under a day or two. It didn't help that they put some of their high profile wrestlers in a freaking paywall, like holy hell! Imagine wwe putting guys like drew, sami, seth as dlc in a wwe2k game. Also what's with the dumbass minigames that has nothing to do with wrestling? They could have use that time and resources adding match variety instead.
The amount of people who didn't trash AEW for their DLC practices was way too low.
This !!! They locked active wrestlers, old game modes, caw parts and even music tracks behind a paywall. Their “live service” meant charging for content that should’ve been in the game from day one.
Because nobody cared enough to buy it lol
Why would anyone trash it? Nobody bought the game, still played it and/or didn't care about DLC in the first place. Bad DLC practices only matter for games that matter, cause you want the DLC.
Early on when it was actually relevant they were probably worried about horses of AEW stans bothering them (now that the game and AEW are dead not so much)
@@orangeblitz4786 cause no one actually cared to buy it
Fact is, you could just download the entire AEW roster as CAWs on WWE 2K and have better looking models and then you have more match types.
I felt the exact same way. Better entrances too
Plus the game already has most of the entrances of AEW talent in the game plus Punk is in 2k24
Fight Forever has better gameplay. You can't download that on community creations.
@@EliteEasyE I guess that's why it's so popular
@@EliteEasyEgameplay is so good that no one want to play it
>Lacked a good story mode
That's so poetic
if you ask me, that's spot on to the actual AEW. Props to them for the realism.
@@juanperaza3054yeah but there's no backstage brawls in the game, which is just criminal
@@TimeBomb014X The Fire Pro Wrestling series game by SpikeChunsoft don't allow wrestlers to go backstage either.
@@chrisw5654 Yeah but AEW is famous for its backstage brawls
@@chrisw5654Fire Pro also has a killer creation suite, something Fight Forever doesn’t have
The arenas being almost empty was such a nice detail by the devs. Spot on
what killed the game for me was the entrance videos, yes they wanted to make it feel like wwf no mercy, but the reason they had short entrances is due to memory limitation.AEW had no excuse
This is 100% why i dropped it after a few days.
yeah I understood but disliked that about No Mercy, Wrestlemania 2000 and WCW/NWO revenge had the full entrances...when people have nostalgic fondness for all the aspect of No Mercy...the short entrances are bottom of the list
true i started playing it a few days ago and i wondered what this was about, WWE 2k is a masterpiece against this AEW game, no need for keeping it
I’m probably in the minority but I love the short entrances. They should at least have the option for long ones I guess
They should just do their own game instead of reviving an old game.
Wrestling Empire > Fight Forever. Mat won't shut up about it .... but then again I can't blame him💁🏽♂️
I have been playing MDickies games for 20 years now.
@@prufrock1977 Glad to hear from a fellow cult member🤝🏽
I think one big problem the game has is that they wanted to make a wrestling game and went “but what if we put Mario party mini games in it” taking up resources and man power to make something that feels like bloat in the game and that no one wants to play. Yeah instead of giving us more characters let’s put more useless mini games in! Yeah as some one who bought day one I was so disappointed.
Nah they used handdrawn models instead of mocap also didnt focus on single player instead focused more on online with the stadium stampede but couldnt release it on time. They should have just contacted the moral kombat devs and make a proper brutal wrestling game
they also had Kenny Omega, a man who has only played video games and has never done any actual work on one, leading the project
i still dont know how to unlock all of them
@@CharizardMaster69 DUDE i forgot Kenny was leading in the game holy s**t
KENNY IS THE GUY WHO WANTED MINI GAMES, THERE IS A VIDEO OF HIM TALKING ABOUT IT.😂😂😂😂
Screw it. Back to "Here comes the Pain" on PS2.
I’m playing as the hurricane on season mode now 😂😂😂
I'm playing WWF WrestleMania 2000 on Nintendo 64 with a Retro Fighters controller.
@@Curlyheart You don't have the third handle to jam up your butt while you play with the other two?
I´m playing Smackdown vs Raw 2007 because ist was the last Game who has Chris Benoit in it and because for me it plays better than its successors.
100% "Here Comes The Pain" should of been AEW's target for gameplay.
You can make the aew whole roster in 2k24 as well as make collision. Pretty ironic
And a universe mode
At least they will get a full packed arena in there
@@kalpeshrawat418 bruuuuuhhhh...thats good one
I was one of the people who bought the “Elite Edition” when it got announced and thought all future DLC would be free but for whatever reason it wasn’t. Just wanted to us to spend more money than we already did for buying the most expensive option
It wasn't free because they made a loss on the game and needed to charge DLC is to break even.
Yes. Say what you want about WWE 2K but at least with their DLC, you get your money's worth and once you get a season pass, you get their DLC for free.
@@jeremywilliams5141Yeah I had bought the wrestlemania 40 edition of wwe2k24 that was the first time I bought the most expensive edition and I got my moneys worth every dlc comes free got the game 3 days early every showcase mode superstar was already unlocked and so was the arenas you had to purchase with vc and the superstars plus titles
Charging for all things that should’ve been in the game day 1. Edge was the only true DLC
Season Pass usually means you do get all the extra content. What does the Season Pass do if you buy it and still have to pay for the content?
Failure is ALL ELITE
This game pretty much describes just how talentless Tony Khan is let alone how terrible Omega is in directing this game
@@BeyondDaX Shows TK and KO are just mainstream wanna be
fun fact: WWE 2K20 has around 11 players a month, AEW FF has 7-8🤣🤣
Chill 😂😂😂
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
that is indeed a fun fact lol
Wait you fr 😂?
Thats when you know the game bombed hard
I personally will never grow tired of hearing of and analyzing this game’s rapid downfall lol
Same 😂
It should disappoint you, not please you.
Kenny Omega doing a Steve Jobs impression.
Sometimes watching a video about a failure of anything is way more entertaining then hearing about it success@@dhenderson1810
It’s like hearing about Rocksteady with Suicide Squad Kill The Justice League
I always found it funny how AEW fans were happy Yukes were making fight forever because they made no mercy. But somehow they forgot that they also made all the wwe games that they hated.
Classic AEW die hards.
But the good Games that they made outweigs the bad games by a Lot. For the WWE Games I played from Yukes I played hundreds of hours, because there was a lot to do.
I thought AKI made No Mercy?
@@Curlyheart yeah no mercy is from aki
Yuke’s made the Smackdown games
They really released the game 1.5 years too late , had they released it when Wwe 2k20 DISASTERCLASS was still veey fresh , they would have had more Audience but the positive success of Wwe 2k22 onwards really made Market less for them , and they Bombed thd game features also ngl
Even when AEW was at its “peak” I still don’t think they had the audience to justify making this game & they’ve tried to milk anyone who did buy the game with overpriced DLC of wrestler’s who should have originally been in the game ..
It’s not like a WWE game where even if you weren’t up to date with the product you can still play with the Legends or HOF guys…
When it’s free on PS+ after less than a year you know your in bother ..
Nah they had the audience. The game was just mediocre and bland. It has the bones of a good game but the muscle and organs are missing.
They honestly should have just done a DLC deal with Fire Pro World
The creation was terrible that’s why a lot of us didn’t buy it
it was even worse than smackdown just bring it CAW creation
I saw this game free on the ps+ store, played half a match where I was pento el zero miedo vs Jon moxley, and deleted the game. It’s absolute garbage. Sorry AEW but your game sucks a$$
Same here bro; I saw it on PS+ too and added it to my library but I haven't downloaded yet....
@@demonhead1610 yea I wouldn’t even bother it’s terrible. The controls are wonky AF and the button mashing for pins is atrocious. Wwe has mastered the pin mechanic for years now so I have no clue why tf fight forever uses button mashing. The graphics are very poor and look like an arcade game you’d spend 8 tokens on to play. Also they have no franchise mode for some reason and the create your character mode looks boring af. Overall it’s not worth your time. Just play wwe if you wanna play a wrestling game
@@demonhead1610 I honestly don’t have anything positive to say about this game. So glad I never spent money on it
I wanted to like this game so much.
The irony is that Fight Forever is a microcosm of AEW as a whole. It has good “match types” and “exhibitions” but not a lot of content and nothing is really fleshed out. Then during the matches, they’re poorly executed because of bugs (botches) and the graphics aren’t that good (the physiques of the wrestlers). Then the only “story” you really have had to do with the Elite and it sucks because it’s the same shit for five years and was bad in the beginning it was just new at the time. And much like the game itself, AEW has never been bigger than the first day it showed up.
Absolute money laundering OP. No way it cost 20 mil to make💯
It actually costed more
I think it was genuinely mismanaged that poorly. The company milked TK cause Omega didn't know how to create a game. He was in over his head. By the time they realized this, it was too late
@@RealSquares thanks for the most sensible response I've had in ages💯👌🏿
Agreed, don stevens and Kenny omega probably kept all of that money
Aside from its story mode basically just being Kenny's otaku Yakuza wet dream, with almost zero actual correct characterization of what the wrestlers themselves are really like, the actual gameplay has the quality of a bad N64 title. Its a demake.
Literally the only reason anyone would defend it is for one reason, and one reason only, brand loyalty.
And that is a terrible defence for a product being bad.
I knew when I was playing 2K23 and had no AEW fight forever that I probably wouldn't play much of this game, and only 20 hours later I have stopped and kept playing 2K. The game just got added to June's PS plus catalog and heard from a bunch of friends that don't play wrestling games that they think this game sucks.
It does, mainly because I couldn’t even get into a online match and I tried every mode 😂
I still feel robbed Pre-Ordered the game spent $80 for it played it for two days and never touched it again it was honestly the worst experience the worst let down that I've ever had out of a wrestling game
The trailer and pre release footage was awful, fans we're dellusionally hyping it up pretending it was the best thing since Here Comes the Pain when anyone with a brain knew it looked undercooked... they do the same thing when it comes to the weekly shows
Easiest thing in the world knowing FF would flop. All the evidence was right there to know
the problem with this game and AEW in general is that it was needed when wwe was in a low point, people only liked AEW because wwe was awful at the time in real life and videogames
but look how wwe is now
All Kenny had to do was tell Yuke's and Geta to make No Mercy/HCTP with AEW wrestlers. Instead, we got a half-assed game with unnecessary mini games. If I wanted to play mini games, I'd boot up Mario Party.
THIS
i heard a theory (and have no reputable proof so don’t quote me on this) that the mini games could’ve been what Omega and Yukes had the disagreements about. specifically, people think Omega REALLY wanted the mini games in the game, but Yukes was against it.
So much promise, they should have just imported the CAW suite base from No Mercy. When they talked about the blocks I thought career mode would be like no mercy where you had over 100 archs depending on W/L.
Right? I swear I hope that company burns down for this, smdh I even payed the season pass only to have two jobbers I never heard of , Matt Hardy and tazz kid , some clown dude with powers and some girl that’s not even in the roster. Sigh don’t get me started with the stupid ass minigames , lack of game modes hell match in menu options, no selling, trash 🗑️, an AKI game this is not.
I knew from the beginning this game was gonna bomb... people thought no mercy sounded fun on paper until people realized the days of that style of gameplay is long over...2k now has the perfect blend of arcade and sim.
It isn't really No Mercy gameplay anyway. It is Yukes' gameplay, and arguably not even one of the better incarnations of that, which has been further altered into some weird AEW interpretation.
AEW Fight Forever is not No Mercy gameplay. It's a cheap imitation of it.
FF lacks basic modes and features. The gameplay was never a core problem.
The gameplay was fun though atleast in single player. The story mode was atrocious with no branching narratives like those old wwe games had and zero backstage stories too.
@@BainesMkIIPress X/A = Light grapple, hold X/A = strong grapple, that's basically the "No Mercy" system when anyone ever says a game is No Mercy-esque. THE THING IS, everyone hyped this game up as being based on HCTP gameplay and no the hell it isn't.
i don't understand why people were so hyped for this. The graphics looks like PS2 game.
It was during AEW's honey moon phase when everybody would excuse anything they did. People would excuse their ps2 graphics by saying it was an art style and some would even say they were very realistic.
@@charliebrown6648Also me personally it also looked like an arcade game and I thought it'd be over the top and fun. It was neither.
Well, the ps2 was one of the most popular systems released, sooo...........
But sometimes I feel that nowadays we didn't mind much about graphics. And we always miss old retro graphics isn't it ?
Always love Mdickie wrestling game.
Even Project Zero/Fatal Frame had better graphics.
The irony of a company whose wrestlers’ move sets are largely inspired by the create a wrestler feature in wrestling games, having a terrible create a wrestler mode shouldn’t be understated.
Only 1 year? I thought this came out in 2020. It feels sooo outdated.
Thats the most true thing I’ve heard. For 2023 it almost feels like an indie game.
I didn't know how bad it was until it was free and I played it. Almost hilariously bad and mismanaged. Full of bugs. Trophies wouldn't unlock
Which trophies were bugged? They all unlocked fine for me, but I only played it recently so maybe they patched the issue?
There has to be another game where there's:
1. More fluid and fun gameplay
2. A longer, more interactive Story mode
3. More creations
4. Better online play and features
5. More match types if need be
6. Stadium Stampede is offline
7. No more minigames
8. Yes, even a GM Mode
Nah get that fornite shit out of wrestling games, an actual 5v5 backstage area should’ve been implemented, no excuses
says a lot when No Mercy (nearly 24 years old btw) is still better. shit, even wrestlemania 2000 is better
This game hurt my soul. I have never been more hyped for a game to be so severely let down. I paid the full $60 upon release, and knew I had been hosed within a couple of hours. Lost all respect for Kenny as a gamer too. As a hard-core gamer in charge of the product, he knew it was wrong what they did.
I did had faith in this game in the beginning but when half the roster is not in the game and it pretty much felt it was a rush job and i find it funny in the Playstation store the game has a 2.3 star rating.
So basically I bought this game that was recently on sale for nothing?😮
I didnt even wanted it as a gift, got this on PS plus cuz im itching to play a wrasslin game but i really didnt liked anything bout it lol
Brand new copy is $10 at Wal-Mart. I'm just gonna leave it right here.
Bought it for 15 USD just to have it and play it little bit eventually, can't miss wrestling game from Yuke's.
Wow who knew being a gamer and not a game developer where massively different
Kenny used to be a game dev
@@EmpireZzzzno he wasn’t
@@juliotorres3147 he did
@@EmpireZzzz Nope. He didn’t. I’ll gladly accept proof of this if you have it though.
Yeah, after I unlocked all the characters the game just was boring. Also to level up your creations you have to play Road to the Elite. Which sucked as it's not that fun after 3 or 4 runs.
Just play WWE2k games and add in AEW, AAA, CMLL, NJPW, TNA, and whoever and whatever else content via content creation downloads. Best way to play a AEW game!
That moment when you realize that TNA IMPACT from the 360 is a far superior game.
It’s the free monthly game on PlayStation and I am not downloading it 😂
I wouldn’t disrespect my PlayStation by adding this in my library 😅
The platinum isn't overly difficult, that's about the only thing that might tempt people to download it
@@davidjsaul Yeah, I platinumed it in under a day.
Uninstalled it, will never touch it again.
Just from the gameplay I saw from the content creators like DenkOps, I had no desire to ever play Fight Forever.
Even denkops buried the game when they half assed put him in it.
The fact that the video game is more entertaining than the actual AEW shows really says something.
The biggest problem is they have too many gamers that were in Tony's ear and talked him into making a game before their brand was established enough to license out to a game company that'd pay for it all.
I say this without any hyperbole: This is one of of, if not the worst video game(s) of all time. The game fights you the entire time you are trying to play it with some of the worst controls I've ever seen, looks ugly as sin, lacks any soul and seems to exist just to sell DLC. I mean FFS you know you've fucked up when they give away the game as a freebie with your PS5 sub, A YEAR AFTER ITS RELEASE. When I took it to gamestop to get it the hell out of my house, I was legit surprised they offered me money for it, instead of asking for money to take it off my hands.
For all the criticism GameStop gets, it sure seems like they did you a favor. I was also pleasantly surprised at the trade-in I got, I half expected them to tell me "we don't want this s**t."
@@asurlybarber3620 I wouldn't be surprised if they just sent it to goodwill for the tax write off, because no one is buying that piece of garbage.
why tf you talk like a 2010 game reviewer
@@kamiloalvarez5800 Just how my brain works I suppose.
It was a game based on a game from 2001. Like how did no one see that issue?
I loved the early Smackdown games as much as anybody but don't want to play them in 2023 or 2024.
@@ymca4547 Exactly... I agree
Fight forever is an insult to games like No mercy.
I remember when this game was announced people were like "this is what wrestling games should be, it's gonna be better than 2k!!" When they said it would be like wwf no mercy I didn't think they would mean graphics wise
We live in a era of being prisoner of the moment and crowning things prematurely
It’s better to just get 2K24 if you didn’t get 2K22 or 23. Not only are there some great creations, there’s also stages, arenas, logos, etc. Plus, the game brought back the ramp camera from the earlier SmackDown games.
Worst preorder of my life. I got 38 hrs into it. I love Owen hart and couldn’t stomach enough matches to unlock him. And the dlc prices were predatory as eff. Tony Kahn owes me $80
Off topic but I’ve realized 2k22 was lowkey good
You're good. Not off topic cause he did mention that.
2k22 wasn't just good it was great. The wrestling video game space is mimicking IRL. This game got the attention it did because WWE games sucked, but now that they're good again, AEW is an after thought.
I told people it was going to be rubbish but they wouldn't listen. Bare bones game and then the audacity to have 4 season passes with barely any extra content is crazy. I had no idea it was free on plus this month as I no longer have plus but I doubt I'd ever play it.
The minute with subtitles popping on the screen was annoying, but the video was pretty solid. I'm pretty sure you can pick up a copy of this atrocity for $5 at Walmart now, if not, Gamestop.
I wonder if the game actually put them in the black and out of the red like Tony said it would
I was going to get it for free but I went with streets of rage 4 instead
What really killed online for me is the people quitting all the time cause they didnt want to lose.
Like an AEW mark who rage quits an argument when the talking points they get from Uncle Dave don't work.
That’s exactly why I stopped playing online. It got obnoxious extremely quickly and then I was over it.
I thought wrestling was supposed to be pre-determined? Maybe instead of a fighting game style you should try to use psychology to move the crowd.
@@asurlybarber3620y'all just say shit
It's now free from the PS Store as one of the free monthly games
Only for a couple more days. But still, free is too much.
@@truthseeker1867 wow, is it leaving PS Plus already? Glad I platinumed it when they added it. Well, sort of glad. It's not a good game 😂
Fight Forever more like Flop Forever
They even gave it to us for Ps plus one this month too 😂😂
Not even for free I’d played this 🤣🤣
Walmart had it on clearance for $3.00
Great job Kenny! Turns out people didnt like No mercy after all 😂🤣 should have stuck to HCTP gameplay physics instead.
Imagine a AEW Wrestling Game like Smackdown vs RAW with modern 2K Visuals and a good Campaign for every Pillar & a Crazy Womans Campaign.
Please try again with Guys who know Gaming, Not Kenny
Once again AEW should behave like an indie instead of a mainstream because that's their biggest downfall
We shouldve known it was gonna be bad after their first tryout at gaming with elite gm. That was also a disaster and they pulled it from app stores after 1 year.
My problem is that the explodes barrier wire match was so rushed you barely had time to even play the match a good match type wasted
Yeah they should have let the player decide how long the timer was before the explosion happens, instead of just having it locked to sixty seconds
Really enjoying retro mania. Can’t wait for the midnight express dlc coming soon.
Good story with Johnny mundo 👍🏼
The Fact that AEW fight forever Made WWE2k20 looked a little cooler by comparison I mean 2k20 had tons of glitches heck they even had the Seasonal Pass that looked cool For my opinion for AEW I wish they could have done
1. They could've made entrances longer and more exciting
2. More backstage areas like brawls outside the ring like in the crowds or hell even go everywhere
3. More Arenas
4. Longer and better road to elite storylines that made sense
5. Updates wrestlers
6. Have a better pin Meter instead of just pressing buttons hoping and the chances of kicking out
7. A better stadium stampede
I was so hype to play this game since its release but always talked myself out of it due to high DLC prices and large backlash. Snagged it for free last week on PS5. For a free game, its extremely entertaining for about 30 minutes. I just could not imagine paying more than $15 for the game in its current state though. Add the damn DLC wrestlers in for free geezuz)
I also compared it to another game that released horribly with bugs, being Fallout 76. The MAJOR difference though, is that Bethesda never gave up in trying to add to that game and get players back. Even to this day that game is loaded with content that I did not have to pay extra to use. (FARRR from perfect, but very enjoyable) This game though, has doubled down on trying to sell you content as if it was the best and most anticipated game of all time. You would think they would want to get this game in everyone's hands and keep dumping content updates on them. Just does not add up.
It's awful it's free to download on PS5 now I can't believe how much people lied saying it was good
What did they spend all that money on? Did Yukes just bend Tony over and severely overcharge the money mark?
The same as the people on the roster do to him.
Wwe 2k24 is a better aew video game than aew fight forever.
It's clear they didn't try. Probably why WWE had drop Yuke's in the first place. Most of the time when you play some of the old games from Yuke's they have the same customization and nothing really felt different. It took them over a year with 2k to make the customization better and they had to skip over a year just to fix everything. AEW made a decent game but they really drop the ball.
I bought the elite edition thinking I would get all the dlc like a season pass. When I found out I was sadly mistaken I deleted the game and never went back 😂
It just now hit me that Omega was dressed like Steve Jobs for his on stage product releases.
As someone who has been involved in game development, AEW Fight Forever feels very half-baked, and I have a hunch things fell through, cause let's be real, building a game engine from the ground up costs a lot more than use an existing engine like Unreal to create your dream game ideas. And how ironic that only the gameplay is decent, cause that reflects AEW all so well.
Another reason why this game failed, I think the hype machine may have also backfired in this aspect. WWE 2K was in a slump, and the thought of an AEW game hitting it out of the park, that was the perfect situation for any AEW hardliner fan. They get an enjoyable game, but more importantly, they get to flip WWE a massive middle finger, which honestly is the only thing these hardliner fans care about these days. The game's lackluster presentation, combined with the resurgence of WWE 2K with its 2023 iteration, talk about a massive hit to the egos of these hardliners.
In summary, what I think contributed to the failure of Fight Forever is the undercooked state of the game, combined with overhyped expectations from its audience. Honestly, I personally believe the game should be given another year to polish up the game engine first, and with the benefit of hindsight, seeing WWE 2K 2023 work so well could have allowed them to take notes and further touch up on their own game project. Although even so, these AEW hardliner fans are most certainly the hardest people to please, so the game project was probably doomed from the start.
I think I played it for about 10 hours - I bought the most expensive edition, wanted the Hardyz etc. Uninstalled it after 10 hours and not touched it since. Was really excited for it.
i wrote a parallel world fanfiction about AEW Fight Forever on the N64 where it uses the N64 GBC connector and the Gameboy Card Reader to get new fighters from trading cards and they suggest a battle mode where two people buy a pack and draft a team and run a tournament on an episode of Dynamite.
It’s seriously been a very long year for this game. Seems like it came out and died 5 years ago.
Man, I could go for some Wrestling Empire.
Everything King Midas touched turned to gold, everything Tony Khan touches turns to dust.
I’ve been playing universe mode with my myplayer, and if I’m being honest I’m still not bored of it😭❤️💯. Since they added more things since release , like the little things example Samantha as a ring announcer. Dawg when she says my character name *chef kiss* azreal “the anarchist” black😈🔥. Can’t forget about community creations either. Wwe definitely did their job on 2k24. Now aew imma be honest I played the game for a cool month then deleted it so I can free up storage 💀
When Kenny removed himself from aew games. Alarm bells went off
This game even if given more time could not have matched WWE creation suite which was built upon for a decade if not more. They should’ve just nixed it altogether and provided a wardrobe feature where updated attires could be obtained from a downloadable shop thus given players access to new attires for people like Jungle Boy, Christian, Luchasaurus etc. they also shouldn’t have wasted resources on mini games which was not needed. Instead they needed more match types, a backstage brawl, more wrestlers, added announcers and more resources into their career or a universe mode. The foundation of the game is solid there just isn’t enough to do
They pumped this game up like crazy, acted like it was revolutionary, and it was a dud from the jump
I was really looking forward to the release of this game. I played it and I hated the controls and how the game played. Iv never played it again
wwe stopped working with yukes for a reason lol
Blame the people in charge of aew for constantly interfering with yukes vision for the game not them
Yukes made the best games WWE ever had. 2K just has good graphics other than that, their games are kinda boring. AEW FF Sucks but don’t put that stink on yukes cause they definitely gave us classics
Nothing wrong with yukes. It's 2k!! Now look at there Franchises. NBA 2k Decline. Wwe declining.
Soon to be mafia as well
@@mcburn344? WWE2K24 is widely considered one of the best wrestling games and is selling great
I pirated this game to try it before purchase and i feel sorry that i shortened my SSD R\W capacity because of it. So i still feel ripped off.
If you like wooden puppets fighting you get fight forever.
Wwe 2k20 kept servers open until wwe2k22 came out and over time ironed all those glitches.
I'm still waiting for a cage match and backstage access
How do you ship without even a basic cage match?
AEW Fight Forever was just a failure like AEW is self in 2023!
i remember two of my friends saying we should all buy fight forever the day it drops. i didn't. i don't know if they did but they never brought it up again. recently i saw the disc version at walmart for $10
"It's going to be like classic AKI games" they said...I don't understand why they don't just pay for the license to MOD the old 64 games...
the cod zombies round start music for June 29th 2023 killed me
0:29 WHO THE HELL THOUGHT THAT?! YEAH I'M SURE AFTER THE THIRD DELAY EVERYONE WAS CHEERING HERE COMES THE SAVIOR!🤣
Considering production started before wwe 2k22 came out, people were pretty excited since the last 2k game was buggy and just overall not fun, and the 2k battlegrounds was just awful. So yeah people were really excited for this
Ironic they called it fight forever when the matches last about 3 minutes or so
Well done Alanis
Kinda reminds me of TNA impact from 2008.
Tiny Klown needs to go back to the old 2019 look.
Game really lacks content that you'll get easily bored by the game in under a day or two. It didn't help that they put some of their high profile wrestlers in a freaking paywall, like holy hell! Imagine wwe putting guys like drew, sami, seth as dlc in a wwe2k game. Also what's with the dumbass minigames that has nothing to do with wrestling? They could have use that time and resources adding match variety instead.
Perhaps announcing the game in a big wink wink nudge nudge joke press conference should’ve told us everything