Coding is Not Enough Anymore - (Aaron Jack) Video Response

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  • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
    @martinlutherkingjr.5582 11 месяцев назад +49

    He sounds like more of a marketer than an engineer.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas 10 месяцев назад +3

      He's both so I don't understand the hate

  • @kukaraca
    @kukaraca 11 месяцев назад +37

    You said it right Chris, these tech influencers make videos for the sake of attention and views.
    It's like this other guy made a video not long ago about CSS margins being bad and you should not use them.
    A lot of BS content and fake drama, again made for views and attention.

    • @Koj4
      @Koj4 11 месяцев назад +1

      they're mostly grifters, yeah

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 10 месяцев назад

      You probably mean Theo with the CSS margins, and while I find his style kinda annoying I think he has a point there. CSS behaviour with margins is insanely complex because browsers insist on staying backwards compatible with all the bad decisions of the past.
      Then again I'd just use Tailwind instead of CSS directly, I usually don't like dependencies and build processes but CSS is just worse.

    • @ChrisAthanas
      @ChrisAthanas 10 месяцев назад

      His courses are better than most and very practical
      Have you seen them? I took all of them and found them very valuable and cuts a lot of the bs in most content

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад

      The RUclips way. Thanks google!

  • @nilfux
    @nilfux 11 месяцев назад +15

    I'm a 24 year senior. Unemployed. The salaries offered are 20-40% lower and they want you to know 200-300% more. I have offers but they are all much lower than normal. It's an employer's market.

    • @BharatK-vo9zo
      @BharatK-vo9zo 11 месяцев назад

      Watch the last two livestreams from codingphase he talked exactly about this.

    • @martinlutherkingjr.5582
      @martinlutherkingjr.5582 11 месяцев назад +8

      24 years as a senior dev or a 24 year old senior dev?

    • @nilfux
      @nilfux 11 месяцев назад

      @@martinlutherkingjr.5582 24 years as dev. I'm a principal, Refuse to do management. Managing people is the spiral downward. If you care about tech, you care about learning the new shit. Go and Rust are my new shits. I'm 45. I will never manage people again as my primary focus. People worth their salary don't need to be managed. 1:1'S are for the weak.
      If you are doing 1:1s to get to know your devs, your team sucks.

    • @tenbitcomb
      @tenbitcomb 11 месяцев назад +2

      Yup. Market is very poor right now. So many developers are in the denial stage about it. I think things will improve with time, but there's so much detritus built up in the software industry that needs to get cleared before money gets spent wisely and competent programmers are valued again. Things have to get bad before they become good again. I'm not looking for a job right now, but for years I used to be hounded every day by recruiters calling me and sending me emails. For the last year and a half it's been crickets. I've heard similar from other programmers.

    • @nilfux
      @nilfux 11 месяцев назад

      @@martinlutherkingjr.5582 24 years experience since 1999.

  • @tenbitcomb
    @tenbitcomb 11 месяцев назад +18

    Very few programmers on RUclips today seem to be actual programmers. Maybe they actually do work in the field, I guess, but they seem to only have anything to say about career attainment and hardly anything teaching programming or sharing actual wisdom. In my experience, the more seasoned the programmer is, the more concrete thoughts they'll have to share on a technical level. By that virtue, one might as well not consider these "influencers" to be programmers. There should be far more Chris Hawkes, Jonathan Blows, Web Dev Codys, and Brian Wills, but instead we have an invasion of bros selling hustle culture. When that doesn't work, they'll throw out another "why i quit coding" video for the views. I feel bad for any new programmers right now. Not only is the job market in decline but all the voices floating to the top are providing little to no value. Just get a cofounder and make a startup like it's 2013, bruh! /s

    • @leeoiou7295
      @leeoiou7295 10 месяцев назад +2

      Lol. I agree with you. Everyone these days is an expert in coding and AI. The industry is becoming a joke.

    • @tremolony4924
      @tremolony4924 10 месяцев назад

      Don't forget Hussein Nasser

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад +3

      Pretty much all of the popular ones, aren’t.

  • @Fullflexno
    @Fullflexno 10 месяцев назад +4

    "Coding is all that matters!"
    Thank you for your words of wizdom over the
    years, Hawkes! And i think that in this case, you are 100% percent right.
    Coding has been enough, and "always will be".
    Hoping for more content from you!

  • @jason_v12345
    @jason_v12345 11 месяцев назад +15

    Yeah, there is no 5-year developer who's a genuine senior. No way.

    • @leeoiou7295
      @leeoiou7295 10 месяцев назад +1

      That exactly what I was telling some guy the other day. 5 year "senior" is a joke

  • @marjomedved5318
    @marjomedved5318 10 месяцев назад +4

    I am at a point where I cannot understand what I am doing as developer anymore. I feel like everyone is just leaning on non-code web development. There are plugins coming out that can just transform figma design into actual code... idk man... Furthermore, designs that previously weren't even looked at, now are top notch with emphasized typography, fonts that in my own opinion are unreadable and color palette that makes no sense but ok, i guess that's where we are at nowadays. I just don-t understand this world.
    Really thought coders are here to code solutions to real world problems, but I don't know if that's the case anymore. Feel like the only people appreaciated are the designers - art people.
    If I take a look at portfolios all are similar, probably from javacript academy, just with some twists / changes, but everybody talks about themselves as they are so good designers. like I said, I don't understand anymore.

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад

      Yeah, most design is just whatever everyone else is doing.

  • @Graedahl
    @Graedahl 11 месяцев назад +3

    You're spot on; teams need individuals that can look at the new tech, take what they need from it, and add to their toolkit where relevant.

  • @Dean-zi5bj
    @Dean-zi5bj 11 месяцев назад +3

    Chris, thank you for the video. Aaron Jack is a cool guy and tries to do his best to help. He lives in Ukraine last I checked. I've found both of your content to be useful. I really like both of you and hope we can all be friends sometime!

  • @mytechnotalent
    @mytechnotalent 11 месяцев назад +3

    Good to see you Chris and great advice as always! Yes ChatGPT will change the landscape but not remove all Engineers from the equation.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 10 месяцев назад +2

      GPT is a tool like Google and IDE autocompletion. It'll be important to know how to use it but it's still useless by itself.

    • @DarrenJohn10X
      @DarrenJohn10X 10 месяцев назад +2

      ChatGPT = glorified autocomplete (looks ahead a few sentences or paragraphs, instead of just letters) -- like a microwave oven instead of oven burners, you can save time but still gotta know how to use the tool or it will blow up in your gface!

  • @ChrisAthanas
    @ChrisAthanas 10 месяцев назад +3

    I took his courses on scraping and Shopify and react and honestly I found it quit valuable and useful
    I'm not paid to say this and have been a developer for over 20 years. I found his takes to be useful and his content to be above average quality
    Just my two cents

  • @LalienX
    @LalienX 8 месяцев назад

    Ironically enough, excessive swiping on dating apps pushes down in the algorithm

  • @juanmacias5922
    @juanmacias5922 11 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for pointing this out! That video of his really didn't sit right with me.

  • @jovan_script
    @jovan_script 11 месяцев назад +1

    Chad Chris Hawkes destroys Virgin Aaron Jack with FACTS and LOGIC.

  • @niksatan
    @niksatan 11 месяцев назад +2

    I watch lot of yt, thank god there are gems like yours channel.

  • @mikechung7316
    @mikechung7316 11 месяцев назад +1

    This based and real, would say this is actually advice as a former staff engineer

  • @albirtarsha5370
    @albirtarsha5370 11 месяцев назад +1

    "Coding is all that matters." Yes, basically. You can bluff into getting an interview, but once you get the coding interview, that's where you will sink or swim.

  • @daple1997
    @daple1997 8 месяцев назад +1

    What kind of GitHub would you want?

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  8 месяцев назад +2

      Not one that makes spam clicks on a dating website. That is weak as hell.

    • @doublesushi5990
      @doublesushi5990 5 месяцев назад

      @@realchrishawkes idk who u r, just discovered u but "weak as hell" coming from u is hilarious.. def gonna watch ur stuff.

  • @user-td5gy2fh3p
    @user-td5gy2fh3p 10 месяцев назад +1

    can you make a video on what we would need in terms of github profile, etc, to get a job? i think this would help a lot of people. thanks.

  • @1MinuteFlipDoc
    @1MinuteFlipDoc 10 месяцев назад +2

    Keep going Chris!! Love your take!

  • @LukeAvedon
    @LukeAvedon 11 месяцев назад +2

    Chris throwing shade!!

  • @Astronomad
    @Astronomad 10 месяцев назад +1

    Keep preaching bro.

  • @WoWbob396
    @WoWbob396 10 месяцев назад +1

    I also was really put off by the GitHub profile flex.. like, okay? Seemed just immature and irrelevant really.

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад

      It’s probably just content he does. Seems to be working for him.

  • @QWACHU
    @QWACHU 7 месяцев назад

    5 yrs exp... and Senior Dev... Hahah, so true Chris.

  • @dhavewala
    @dhavewala 10 месяцев назад +2

    Laughing my a$$ off watching this 😂
    I'm unsure why you quit mate, but RUclips requires more straight talking people like you to be on it

  • @maniac50ae14
    @maniac50ae14 10 месяцев назад +1

    I always thought he was someone that took a coding course and went straight into marketing. His knowledge of coding always seemed shallow. I also noticed that he has the appearance of an addict, very pale, frail(especially after his channel took off), thinning hair that isnt MPB, and i can tell hes fighting to hide teeth grinding

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад

      Hopefully not, being addicted to drugs or alcohol is hell.

  • @steelwolf180
    @steelwolf180 11 месяцев назад +2

    Hey Chris, it's been awhile, yeah I kind of agree he's a marketer than a coder. Tbh it just feels like a another "techlead" channel that ppl who knowly subscribe to.

  • @alexey_3155
    @alexey_3155 10 месяцев назад +2

    Hey man, you look pretty tired and burned out 😥
    I'm sorry for offering unsolicited advice, but maybe consider working a bit less and do more physical activity?

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад +1

      I’m actually not, just getting older I guess. I have 2 kids, I don’t rest.

  • @PankajDoharey
    @PankajDoharey 11 месяцев назад +1

    AI is doing really good, so there is future for that, but more importantly system design is also required these days. The market is not good for new programmers but for us experienced programmers the market is still very very good.

    • @realchrishawkes
      @realchrishawkes  9 месяцев назад

      I haven’t looked in a long time now, I’m glad to hear that though.

  • @RysioACF
    @RysioACF 10 месяцев назад +1

    Sup Chris, how you doin. I enjoyed your talk, take care.

  • @13thxenos
    @13thxenos 11 месяцев назад +1

    I think "Coding" is not enough, and never have been. You should be a problem solver. Coding is a part of that for decades now, but if you only know how to code some algorithms, that could not be enough.

  • @christiangirl2222
    @christiangirl2222 10 месяцев назад

    Was a legitimate now nobody channels seem to be incinerated before people get to see them for nothing I have done but TRUTH

  • @karl4813
    @karl4813 10 месяцев назад +1

    Bro if you dropped a little bit of weight(not that you have to or anything) you would look exactly like that bay area rapper G-Eazy.

  • @sdhetan3hetsa
    @sdhetan3hetsa 10 месяцев назад +1

    5 years developers are joke

  • @kuge5694
    @kuge5694 11 месяцев назад +4

    There is truth to what he is saying in the video. If you jump out of the framework of thinking working as a software dev in the corporate world is the only way to use your coding skills, what he says makes a lot of sense. If you want to criticize, try to be more specific and respond to what exactly he said that you disagree with instead of just attacking his character and playing the senior dev card. All I'm seeing is rambling and personal attacks. Just my 2 cents