2008 ST1300, the smoothest bike I've ever owned in 50 years of riding. The heat "problem"? It's hit or miss with these; as is the dreaded deadly "wobble." I live in Birmingham AL, and we're no strangers to heat and humidity; my 2008 ST has had no heat issues; it's fine. I don't baby this bike, but I'm no hooligan either; there's no high-speed wobble with mine at any speed, with or without my Givi top box. It is a heavy bike to push around. So don't do it. That's why there is an engine down there. Use it. It IS a very balanced machine, and above 4mph you will not notice the weight while riding it. As you can plainly see, there are ST detractors and there are others who love the crap out of it, the st-owners forum has about 15K members internationally, so yeah... it has a following, as do many other bikes. If there is a "perfect" bike that is all things to all riders, I've never seen it. Despite the reviewer's silly comment about "buttons", his naked hands, and his basic unfamiliarity with this machine, he hit the high points -- comfort, adjustable windscreen, adjustable seat (unless that was a comment here), fuel range, quickness and handling. Look at some videos of police rodeos to see how these bikes can be maneuvered in tight spaces... it's up to you to practice, and it's not hard at all. As an MSF RiderCoach, I can do the U-turn box all day long, and I'm talking the smaller box. Practice. You should do that with every bike you own. It's not for everyone; yeah it could use cruise control (there are several aftermarket options), heated grips / seat (there are options there too), bar risers, lower footpegs, highway pegs, saddlebag protection / tipover bars, RAM mounts, etc. Any or all of these can be added. But you will be hard-pressed to find a legitimate sport-tourer at this price point today, with this level of range and comfort. Don't be afraid of "high-mileage" examples; this V-four engine runs and runs and runs. And runs well, and smoothly. Look at st-owners.com which has been around since the ST1100 was introduced; there is a wealth of information there. The MAJOR thing to be aware of with used models is when they sit for a good while, the Secondary Master Cylinder gets pissy and will likely need to be replaced; it controls the Linked Braking System and will lock up the rear wheel if neglected. All of this and more is discussed and resolved on st-owners. It's a great bike, and one I won't likely sell. Ever.
First, I'm 63, 5' 8, been riding since 10 yrs old, the st is sport touring, not quite a gold wing, not quite a cbr, I own a 2010 with 8k miles, bike is plenty fast for what's it intended. Handling is very good, yea it's a big bike so common sense tells u its especially heavy with full tank of gas in tight spots, adjustable height on seat, adjustable windshield which is phenomenal, wish it had a 6 spd for highway droning, brakes are strong, large tank permits 300 mile adventures before fillip, silky smooth, shaft drive, no cruise control or heated grips, I installed Oxfords which work fine, very comfortable ride, adjustable rear suspension, locking detachable bags, lmo it's a great bike for weekend trips, daytrip, u can carve pretty well but I wouldn't, maintenance is pretty minimal and not a arm and leg, very dependable, if u like a used st bike and not a cruiser type I would go with the honda, although I still like the old concours, I just can't deal with carburetors and storage and sucky fuel, honda is the way to go for this application, hope this helps those that are on the fence choosing.
That's me, one of those on-the-fencers, looking more deeply into alternatives before my final choice. Yes, I would consider slightly older bikes (4, 5 years back but no more) as long as I can trace the maintenance records. I looked hard at the Yamaha FJRs as well as the Contours and Goldwings. I even eyed the BMW R1250 GS but the ones I'd seen up close were older than my targeted age group. They wanted a little over $5k for each of 'em. I know the best way to know for sure when a bike is right for you is to test ride. That'll be the way from now on. Thanks for the heads up on the ST's you've had!!
@@woodie62 I have a 2006 model with about 105,000 miles on it. I love it. It is comfortable, low maintenance and gets the job done. I have done 1000+ miles in a day and use it regularly for commuting. The difference? What you put in the saddle bags! I wish Honda would still make them because I would get another but I don't need too.
I realize the is an old post but heat coming off the engine can be reduced a great deal by installing the rubber trim for the fairing. It is available from Honda and yes, a little bit pricey. It made a big difference on my 2005 ST. Best bike I ever owned. Also, if or when you replace the steering head bearings, do it with tapered bearings. Stable now at 40 mph with no hands. Enjoy until you get so old you have to get something that doesn't weigh as much.
I have over 120,000 miles on my 2003 ST1300. Replaced front wheel bearings and a few batteries and windscreens. These are really good on tire life. The adjustable screen is the best. The motor pulls way better than my 1200 Ducati Monster. Not in the same league (just 2x as heavy). The only downside is no electronic cruise control. If you are coming off sport bikes you will drag the pegs a lot. Once I'm on it a while I don't drag them. I really needed an aftermarket seat. Butt I am heavy. Rocking a used Corbin seat. 2nd best money I ever spent.
Possibly the best bike Honda has ever made. I've had mine since 2010 and it's done more than 70000 miles - still looks fantastic, rides great, super comfortable, totally reliable. My 2005 model was so well engineered it even passes the London emission ULEZ zone - I had to get it independently certified, but it definitely qualifies. Dash and features look a bit dated now but still a fantastic ride.
Thanks Sean, great review. Love my 03 st1300. Owned 5 years. Not a glitch. Delkavic exhausts, heated grips and seat added. Super fast, comfortable, 300 plus range. Lil tall, makes heat. Polarizing looks. You either like it right or not. Self oil change not to tough. Keep brake fluid fresh and ride safe everybody.
I just got a 2009 ST-1300 with 3g on her. Brand new really and I'm looking 4 a 2012, the last year made, because this bike does it all. I started with a ST-1100 back in the day and am hooked!!!
If it's looking good why not. You ain't gonna get a bike in this class for that price anywhere else. Even if you only get 30K more before major work it's worth it.
I'VE OWNED A ST-1100 AND 2 ST-1300. WITH OUT A DOUBT, AND I'VE RODE LOTS OF TOUR BIKES, THIS IS THE BEST SPORT TOURER EVER MADE!!! LAST 4 EVER IF YOU MAINTAIN!!!
I own a 2017 R1200GSA, which I love, but nothing beat my ST1300. I miss that bike so much that I watch videos like this just to hear that engine again... Maybe one day, if I can get a bigger garage.
Jody Hodge hello, do you mind me asking did you get your bike? I’m possibly buying the exact same as you next week. Heard and read a few horror stories about high speed wobble and trying to get an honest opinion from guys like you who have one. Thanks
I’ve had similar bikes (zg1000 concours, various ‘wings) but I’ve never experienced the ST or VFR Hondas, and I would absolutely love to find out what I’ve been missing!
I have my 1100 for years now and tryed the 1300 from a friend for a whyle. All i can say ..........no, i am not selling my 110 for the 1300. My 1100 is way better at higher speeds and with the cornering.. Maybe its just me loving my bike and not wanting to trade it in for another. I ride 700 km in one go and i will have no worry ,backpain or whatever at all. Maybe a little tired lol done it several times.
I just rode to Sturgis and back over the last week from Colorado Springs on my 2006. Fantastic bike and no soreness. 1k miles round trip, plus all the rides in South Dakota, just put about 2k total on it. Mine has 76k and still strong as ever. There are some great upgrades out there too. Anyone looking for a bike in the sport-tour genre, this is definitely a recommendation. Love This Bike!
@@colinm1325 yes I do, though may be selling. I have a Sargent seat that is beyond comfortable, I have crash bars for my bags just in case, upgraded exhaust, and risers on the handlebars. I also have a 12v outlet so I can charge stuff or power stuff on the road, and I just installed a battery cable for a quick hook up to a trickle charger. The cable also tells me the status of the battery with a green or red light.
I have a 2007 that is pristine and just magnificent,,, its powerful and handles like a sport bike, when honda did this bike the let a VFR and a Goldwing mate and they made a ST. its just an insane machine. its gonna stay with me til we die...
I owned this bike for 3 years. Super smooth nimble on its feet very easy to ride awesome horsepower for the highway. It’s more of a two wheel car than a visceral motor cycle
My dad had a 2006 st1300. Psycho would wheelie that tank at 10oclock no problem. He put over 150,000 miles on it as a daily commuting bike for work. Unfortunately he passed away in 2019, now the bike is sitting in my garage. Needs some work.
I've had mine since 2004. Done lots of touring but also up in the twisties keeping up with the pure sports bikes. It kind annoys them as they see me as a tourer!! Great bike. Wish Honda would upgrade and release a new version with updated displays. Other than that, this is the bike for long distance. Very comfortable in all weather!!
The ST1300 was supposed to be an improvement over the popular ST1100. Honda was hoping the 1100 owners would buy the new 1300. The ST1100 was so popular owners did not jump on board.as expected. I own an ST1100 with 345000 miles on it, at 100 mph it feels like you are doing 70 mph.
@@joshcarlson8284 For real these V4 engines are solid build with the Timing Belt which should be chamge at 90.000miles. ST1300 however have Timing chain,so no service needed. There are ST1300 that even had no valve set even after 85.000miles. The speed wobble fix comes with front springs changed with some aftermarket advanced. ST1300 is reliable bike, same as ST1100.
Rode mine up to 140mph on UK roads, managed to get the back wheel to slick. An awesome bit a machinery, although rode Blackbird faster I will go back to one of these.
I have a 2009 - and love it. 71,000km's, OEM Honda Pan European top box, OEM Honda heated grips. Only wish I could ride it 12 months of the year! (Canada...)
LoL!!! Dude, I was watching this video to get some pointers about my new purchase and was getting motion-sick as Hell!!! I was finding myself tilting my head into the turns, and looking for visual and auditory clues of traffic and threats around me. if I hadn't scrolled down to the comment section...there would have been regurgitated grilled cheese,and minestrone soup EVERYWHERE. It was like being on a roller-coaster. And that one-sided audio only magnified the effect. Man- GREAT video, and it confirmed i made the right purchase. Now I've go find me a SPRITE or GINGER ALE to settle my stomach. GREAT VIDEO, Sean (as Usua)l. Peace Out to my Fellow Riders! God Bless! Everybody stay Healthy & Safe!
I used to have a VFR 800. Rode an ST 1300 the other day and it BLEW the VFR out of the water. Unbelievable pull in every gear. Very comfortable seat and handlebars.
Don't you suppose the extra 500cc had something to do with it? Honda got the VFR's VTec boost all wrong as well, as it doesn't come on until you are way out of normal RPM cruising range, like 6000.
I have a 03 and can only imagine I'll buy another later model of this bike. It has 53,000 miles now,not a single problem. There are other more sporty and faster sport touring bikes,but nothing as refined and comfortable. Ride one and you'll buy one!!
In Switzerland it has 126 hp. Maybe with more open exhaust it may have more. Above 4000 rpm it gets really sporty. And you can lean into the cornerblike a sportbike.
There are FJRs , Connies and R1200RTs but imho ST1300 are the kings. Had two of them, first was an '06, sold that one with 72k miles on it and sold it only to get one with abs, so I found an '09 with abs and so far this one has 65k miles on it. Yes, they are heavy, need 6th gear, bluh bluh bluh but I tell you, they are fun, very, very reliable, fast and awesome bikes. I came across couple of st1300 riders while back, one with 180k and other with 280k miles and they were going to Alaska from somewhere in the Midwest I think without any worries as far as high mileage. These bikes will run 90 mph all they long, great on curvy roads, great brakes, decent gas mileage (40-45mpg), not a drop of oil loss/burn between 5k miles oil changes. Some complain they are running hot, high speed wobble etc. I've been in 100 deg weather rides and never ever noticed any issues (besides being 100 deg outside of course) and I always wear all gear, had both bikes well past 100 mph and no wobble whatsoever ( both with tour packs on them). There are so many choices out there but for me and many others, ST1300 are it.
From what Ive read, the wobble story came from the Police bikes which had all this extra gear mounted to them which upset the balance of the bike. And also mismatched tyres apparently don't help.
I love, love, love my 07 ST! Honda put some true genius into designing it. I’ve said I’d never sell mine, but I’m considering doing so this spring and putting a Wing F6B in it’s place.
Pan weave is very well documented. I have the 1100 and discovered the top box to be the culprit on my bike. Driving home after buying it 15 miles from home it was very difficult to control. I thought I bought a defective bike, so went online and found a suggestion to remove the top box. I thought it had to be much more than that but it wasn't. Cruised to Colorado and back shortly thereafter with no more weave action.
I leave my top box on but only put light items in it , mainly use it for a helmet lock box when i`m walking about. Never had a weave but i`m a steady eddie.
My friend just bought this bike. His first bike is a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 classic and he said he took this thing on the highway and did 120mph and it felt like he was going 70 on the other bike. He absolutely loves it and is gonna sell his Vulcan. He told me it cuts through the wind like a hot knife through butter
That's funny. I have a Vulcan 900 and am trading up to a ST1300. Can't wait to pick it up. I'm buying a well-maintained, dealer serviced 04 model with 42k miles. hopefully I will not need another bike for another 5 or 6 years (I ride about 15k a year)
I have the Triumph Trophy absolutely love it, sports tourers are the best bike for long distances at good speed and comfort. Honda should make this bike with the new gold wing flat 6 and give BMW a run for their money for the GT 1600. I see the ST everywhere when I am out on my bike, ridden by really sensible mature adults, I always pop over and say hello to those type of riders, this bike seems to have their own cult following, a great bike.
I bought one, my third bike. I was only 140 pounds at the time. Riding it was never an issue. Picking it's 720 pounds up off the pavement was. Loved it when I had it. I will say it was kind of soulless though - kind of like driving a Honda Accord.
Soulless... That's a good comment. I've ridden one and it was so sublime I didn't even feel like I was on a motorcycle. I found it to be extremely boring, and nothing close to my BMW K1200rs.
I owned an 03, lots of power but puts off a TON of heat. Also not great around town, too heavy. If you have a long commute on open roads, great choice. Suspension does have lots of adjustment for various weights.
I have had a ST100 AND NOW HAVE A 2009 WITH 3 THOUSAND MILES AND 2 ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON SPEED WOBLES; I FLY ON MINE AND NEVER HAD PROBLEMS. HAVE FUN THIS SUMMER.
Always i had sport bikes as Hayabusas, Gsxr, and always love to do wheelies e,t.c., but now in 50's i deside to buy St-1300 to be easy rider, i hope to not regret buying Paneuropean 1300.Will see!!!
BTW the seat height is adjustable. It is a great riding bike ( I have the police version) but fuel economy is mediocre puttering around town. Still it is a great ride, massive tank, great luggage and an engine that lasts a long time. Big buckets of power.
I have a 2002 st. I'm 5ft 7 and cannot flat foot it on the lowest seat setting. Although this bike is real heavy with a full tank and packed bags as long as you think before you pull in somewhere as to how you are going to get out again like a semi driver does its perfectly fine. I commute every day and just love this machine. I actually enjoy going to work because of the ride. As for the heat problem... i wrapped my headers and its solved it!
Thanks for the vid! I don't know anything about the ST aside from what I've learned here... but I would assume the ST would be just as dependable as an old Goldwing, and I've seen old 1300/1500 GWs with over 140,000mi.
I have a 2003 ST 1300 first year they came out with the redesign I knew the owner of the dealership he told me I had one of 500 in the United States at the time I bought it. It was an eye Turner at poker runs and guess what I didn't have to stop and get fuel every other stop like the other bikes did. The thing is awesome only have 29,000 mi on it wish I had time to ride. Five and a half gallons up top and another two and a half gallons of fuel below the seat. 125 horsepower only thing I did to mine was put handlebar risers on it. If you turn the knob on the dash it raises and lowers your headlights if you have someone on the back and the lights are too high.
took a hard hit from a merc from the back and this bike took it well. the electric screen is epic just below eye level i get no wind noise or crank it down to stay cold the front pockets are great. only real negative being some do get very warm
I found a cheapest ST selling for 7000usd (average used price in my country is around 1000 usd converted price). A 2003 with 121k mileage on it. ST is known for a bulletproof engine and I wonder if it can survive for another 80k before major engine top build. What maintenance on the engine should be done first before enjoying the full potential of the ST and should I be worry about the reported wobble? My highway speed with Yamaha Royal star is always above 160kmh and Im planning to do more with the ST. Fall in love with the looks of it and the police and firefighter here still using it and they still even use the cbx750.
It’s direct competition was the BMW R 1150 at the time - I’ve owned both. The BMW is nice but my tall frame is better on the ST1300 - it only lacks cruise control but that’s easily fixed. 😎
Just bought a nice candy red one after a spell with a BMW K1600gt. Did not like the bmw after years of a pan , too big / heavy/ silly electronic throttle / difficult to remove top box / reverse gear was useless , slightest incline and would not move, i can go on. Service light came on ,dealer wanted £200 turn it off , nope . sell it. Back on a ST again , it`s like back home. It`s old school so i can fiddle with out a laptop to make things work. As with the heat problem , my old 2002 one was red hot on my legs , this later one i have and just used in traffic is much better, did not notice it at all really, maybe they cured on later ones ? Can`t wait to book a French trip soon.
Hey Shaun, ever ridden a VFR1200f? Mine has akrapovic, power commander, de restricted in 1st / 2nd and I loooove it. I cannot understand why it never took off sales wise? I'd be keen to see what you say?
Yeah, you might find one of those as a 2012 model sitting in inventory somewhere, but in their current line up the VFR 1200 is an X model, as in, adventure bike. I’m afraid if you are looking into a super sport tourer, Yamaha still makes the FJR 1300 ES, Kawasaki has the Concourse 1400, BMW makes a R1200 RT and RS.
Patrick Callahan rather have the K1600 BMW despite being expensive for labour and parts Honda do a VFR1200F which is the UKs replacement for the ST1300 even our police have them as unmarked but I prefer the older Vtec 750
Here in California, we have only the products that sell well here. I’m still waiting for the release of the new CB1000R, which has yet to arrive in the states. The VFR 800 is a nice bike, but hasn’t sold well, the VFR1200X is what your guys call the CrossTourer, but yeah, the K1600GT is sweet!
Not religious but love the words of wisdom on this one. Mid 30s setting personal bests in the gym and getting compliments for the salt in my beard. Love the ST can’t wait till one near me goes for sale in the right colour
I have a 2005 with 100000 miles 160000km..and stil running smooth,,maintenace easy change the batterie once and brake twice..change oil seal front fork once....
@@EnergyXyz No reported wobble on FJR at 130 mph with windscreen in low position, no tuck, side cases on...not that I would know that from personal experience.
Had a 650 V-Strom, but felt I needed a bigger bike to keep up with my buds on long (600+ mile) rides. Wife said "No" to two bikes, but couldn't wait. Rode the ST to Tail of the Dragon with said buds ... the ST ate it up, but would have been so much more fun on the V-Strom. They both do the same thing, except for premium fuel and a few MPG less on the ST. I owed $$ on the ST, the wife still wasn't comfortable with two bikes, so I prayed, "Lord, don't need two bikes, and I don't care which one goes." Two days later the ST was driving off into the sunset, making someone very happy. I would have been extremely happy with either, and ST ownership, for even a year or so, was a great blessing.
@@colinm1325 yes. I still have it. It already came with heated grips and the tank/knee pads. I installed a larger windscreen and currently have Pirelli angel Gt tires and bought a used Spencer seat.
Honda makes great bikes....period . I've had four VFR 800's . Bought them all used ( excellent shape ) and sold them for as much or just a couple of hundred under what I paid for them . Amazing machines...took one from Tulsa to Chicago another from Tulsa to Orlando FL. Not a hiccup , b*+ch or complaint . LOVE my vfr's.
I don't need no stink'n radio, I have my music piped right into my helmet speakers thanks to Bluetooth and Sena SMH-10. :-D The ST's from any generation are sweeeeeeet bikes.
My way of thinking. I can get a ram mount to fit the gps and smart phone I have. Then I can take them with me when I’m not on the motorcycle and use them in the car
Just saw this and had to pop in. I had an ST1100 for a couple years. Had a low speed slide into a muddy ditch. Had some minor cosmetic damage I could’ve fixed myself. After detailing it and riding it for a couple days it started running worse and worse till it died. My local Honda dealer wouldn’t work on it. They wanted to total it which the insurance company did. I miss that bike.
I had a 2001 VFR800. Very amazing sound with GPR exhaust, but uncomfortable as fuck. Sold that. Soon gonna buy an ST1300, has a V4 also but worlds different in terms of comfort. Can't wait!
I'm 59, 6 foot 1. St 1300 fits well. Fjr too low, Concours too buzzy. Honda got it right, once you remove back box, lower screen from full height to near full, and adjust rear suspension. Tyre pressure has to be correct, and if tank is full it will lean over a little fast. But it is very safe very smooth and very capable. Lots of them are for sale by people who don't fully appreciate its abilities. It's cheap enough to allow you have a 2nd or 3rd bike. I'm keeping mine. Would replace only for a newer or lower miles version. Great bike.
Can you tell me if you can look at a title of a bike and tell how many owners have owned the bike. Years ago I thought there is a number on the title number that showed that? Thank you for your time.
Some say the FI map from factory is abhorrent, and that the high speed death wobble is a real problem. I have heard of a lot of ST1100 owners who were sorry they switched to the ST1300 in the end. One I read, even sold the 1300 and went back to the 1100.
My dream bike has always been a BMW R100RS. I am a sport touring guy but I love my 2006 Model. It's not pristine and has had a hard life but she gets down the road. She is a big girl but she can dance.
I had this bike for about 4 years and absolutely loved it. The electric mirrors and windshield were the tits. Ultimately - I had to get rid of it because it was just too god damned heavy. 750 lbs with the rider and fluids. It fell against me one time at a gas pump and that was not fun. Great bike though and I cherish my memories with it.
There is a fix, front springs change and back also and you are good to go. That was pretty easy solution for most of the people that had same problem. Not every ST1300 has high speed weave.
You can reduce pretty much all of it by removing or reducing the weight of the payload of the top accessory box, and or cranking up the rear suspension preload. I only notice a slight weave when l am passing a semi after leaving its slipstream until l get to some clean air. Nothing scary at all, no mater what the speed. I use my top box all the time, l just keep light stuff in it. Police bikes on the other hand, are loaded to the hilt with radio’s, med kits, paperwork, rescue equipment etc... that’s when we first heard about the wobble.
Hey man, great video. I have a 2004 ST1300, Love the bike, mine must be geared different that the newer ones. Red line in first gear is 110KPH (almost 70MPH) and YES the front wheel comes of the road with ease. Freaked my friends out when they saw it for the first time. When the time comes I'll be buying a newer one. Cheers
Will never, ever understand why anyone would ride a motorbike with no gloves on! If you ever saw photos of someone’s hands after they’d slid down 75 yards of asphalt you’d see my point.....smh!
The good points, great weather protection, great riding position, great brakes, bad points, handling issues with the front end, easily upset on rough roads, the dreaded pan weave caused by poor design by Honda who refused to accept there was an issue which was actually caused by too much air flow over the front screen and pushing down on the rear of the bike, said to be cured many riders who refused to accept that this was the best Honda could produce as a flagship tourer...... And the solution was .....increase the air flow between the front screen and and fairing by moving the bracket's holding screen further out from the fairing, thus increasing down pressure on the front, then there's the generator alternator which go the same as the previous model st1100, try getting a used one any where scarce to say the least, ok yes I know other manufacturers have issues too but at least they updated their model's to cure and improve them like fjr1300 who started life at the same time but continued to address issues from incarnation to incarnation ,then there's the gtr1400 again does all st1300 does but better, all in all Honda missed the boat with an opportunity to improve and or replace the the model i.e their answer was vfr1200 which never hit the mark as a replacement or as a sports tourer in its own right, well that's my two cents worth as some who had experience of some of the above, I've met some happy st1300 owners down the year's who had little or non of these issues maybe you'll be one too.
You make some good points, mori mori, and a couple inaccurate ones. The original ST had a 28amp alternator, so that obviously went tits-up at the first installation of anything pulling serious current, like electric clothing. '96 models and later had a 40amp alternator, which completely cured that problem. The dreaded "Pan Weave" was caused by insufficient weight on the front tire, aggravated by the ST13 being a shorter wheelbase than the ST11 and the use of a topbox, which caught the wind at speed. Lean backwards a bit in the cockpit and that's just enough change to the front tire contact patch friction to start the process. You're certainly correct that the VFR12 missed the target, but I don't think that target was replacement of the ST line. Honda always made room for both a SPORT tourer and a sport TOURER in their line, until recently. I agree about the lack of updates...Honda has always been an arrogant company, from the standpoint of saying, "Here's our best shot, live with it," rather than accepting customer input and continuously improving their models throughout their lifespan. I currently own an 2001 ST1100 and an 2013 FJR1300, and the FJR is very obviously the flagship of Yamaha's line, with every iteration showing constant improvement and tuning. If Honda had any interest in keeping the ST13 relevant, they would've eventually offered it with cruise control and heated grips, two features which are pretty much required in any touring bike today. But ST's were never major sellers...in my dealership in the 90's, we would likely sell only one ST1100 per year. And with every buyer looking to purchase ADV-style bikes now, it's not hard to see why the ST line never got any attention from the Honda beancounters.
2008 ST1300, the smoothest bike I've ever owned in 50 years of riding.
The heat "problem"? It's hit or miss with these; as is the dreaded deadly "wobble." I live in Birmingham AL, and we're no strangers to heat and humidity; my 2008 ST has had no heat issues; it's fine. I don't baby this bike, but I'm no hooligan either; there's no high-speed wobble with mine at any speed, with or without my Givi top box.
It is a heavy bike to push around.
So don't do it. That's why there is an engine down there. Use it. It IS a very balanced machine, and above 4mph you will not notice the weight while riding it.
As you can plainly see, there are ST detractors and there are others who love the crap out of it, the st-owners forum has about 15K members internationally, so yeah... it has a following, as do many other bikes.
If there is a "perfect" bike that is all things to all riders, I've never seen it.
Despite the reviewer's silly comment about "buttons", his naked hands, and his basic unfamiliarity with this machine, he hit the high points -- comfort, adjustable windscreen, adjustable seat (unless that was a comment here), fuel range, quickness and handling.
Look at some videos of police rodeos to see how these bikes can be maneuvered in tight spaces... it's up to you to practice, and it's not hard at all. As an MSF RiderCoach, I can do the U-turn box all day long, and I'm talking the smaller box. Practice. You should do that with every bike you own.
It's not for everyone; yeah it could use cruise control (there are several aftermarket options), heated grips / seat (there are options there too), bar risers, lower footpegs, highway pegs, saddlebag protection / tipover bars, RAM mounts, etc. Any or all of these can be added.
But you will be hard-pressed to find a legitimate sport-tourer at this price point today, with this level of range and comfort.
Don't be afraid of "high-mileage" examples; this V-four engine runs and runs and runs. And runs well, and smoothly.
Look at st-owners.com which has been around since the ST1100 was introduced; there is a wealth of information there.
The MAJOR thing to be aware of with used models is when they sit for a good while, the Secondary Master Cylinder gets pissy and will likely need to be replaced; it controls the Linked Braking System and will lock up the rear wheel if neglected. All of this and more is discussed and resolved on st-owners.
It's a great bike, and one I won't likely sell.
Ever.
First, I'm 63, 5' 8, been riding since 10 yrs old, the st is sport touring, not quite a gold wing, not quite a cbr, I own a 2010 with 8k miles, bike is plenty fast for what's it intended. Handling is very good, yea it's a big bike so common sense tells u its especially heavy with full tank of gas in tight spots, adjustable height on seat, adjustable windshield which is phenomenal, wish it had a 6 spd for highway droning, brakes are strong, large tank permits 300 mile adventures before fillip, silky smooth, shaft drive, no cruise control or heated grips, I installed Oxfords which work fine, very comfortable ride, adjustable rear suspension, locking detachable bags, lmo it's a great bike for weekend trips, daytrip, u can carve pretty well but I wouldn't, maintenance is pretty minimal and not a arm and leg, very dependable, if u like a used st bike and not a cruiser type I would go with the honda, although I still like the old concours, I just can't deal with carburetors and storage and sucky fuel, honda is the way to go for this application, hope this helps those that are on the fence choosing.
That's me, one of those on-the-fencers, looking more deeply into alternatives before my final choice.
Yes, I would consider slightly older bikes (4, 5 years back but no more) as long as I can trace the maintenance records. I looked hard at the Yamaha FJRs as well as the Contours and Goldwings. I even eyed the BMW R1250 GS but the ones I'd seen up close were older than my targeted age group. They wanted a little over $5k for each of 'em. I know the best way to know for sure when a bike is right for you is to test ride. That'll be the way from now on. Thanks for the heads up on the ST's you've had!!
@@woodie62 I have a 2006 model with about 105,000 miles on it. I love it. It is comfortable, low maintenance and gets the job done. I have done 1000+ miles in a day and use it regularly for commuting. The difference? What you put in the saddle bags! I wish Honda would still make them because I would get another but I don't need too.
are you sure it's got 6 speed? I got my 1300 Pan which is 2005 model and got 5 speed 🤔
Hee said he’d like a 6 speed. 👍👍
8000 miles, my man you still don't know how your own st handles. Go put 1000 miles on it in a day, then you'll know your bike.
I realize the is an old post but heat coming off the engine can be reduced a great deal by installing the rubber trim for the fairing. It is available from Honda and yes, a little bit pricey.
It made a big difference on my 2005 ST. Best bike I ever owned. Also, if or when you replace the steering head bearings, do it with tapered bearings. Stable now at 40 mph with no hands. Enjoy until you get so old you have to get something that doesn't weigh as much.
No cruisecontrol such a misstake from Honda on great bike
I have over 120,000 miles on my 2003 ST1300. Replaced front wheel bearings and a few batteries and windscreens. These are really good on tire life. The adjustable screen is the best. The motor pulls way better than my 1200 Ducati Monster. Not in the same league (just 2x as heavy).
The only downside is no electronic cruise control. If you are coming off sport bikes you will drag the pegs a lot. Once I'm on it a while I don't drag them. I really needed an aftermarket seat. Butt I am heavy. Rocking a used Corbin seat. 2nd best money I ever spent.
Possibly the best bike Honda has ever made. I've had mine since 2010 and it's done more than 70000 miles - still looks fantastic, rides great, super comfortable, totally reliable. My 2005 model was so well engineered it even passes the London emission ULEZ zone - I had to get it independently certified, but it definitely qualifies. Dash and features look a bit dated now but still a fantastic ride.
Actually, the ST 1100 was the best made! I own one!
Easy to adjust valves and replace sparkplugs?
@@Winterstick549 yep the heads are hanging out the sides. Side panel and your there..
Thanks Sean, great review. Love my 03 st1300. Owned 5 years. Not a glitch.
Delkavic exhausts, heated grips and seat added. Super fast, comfortable,
300 plus range. Lil tall, makes heat. Polarizing looks. You either like it right
or not. Self oil change not to tough. Keep brake fluid fresh and ride safe everybody.
2006 with 147000 miles on her still my favouite touring machine
I just got a 2009 ST-1300 with 3g on her. Brand new really and I'm looking 4 a 2012, the last year made, because this bike does it all.
I started with a ST-1100 back in the day and am hooked!!!
2003 130000 miles for $950!! Should I buy it??
@@Group_Anonymous did u buy it? If so how's it running?
If it's looking good why not. You ain't gonna get a bike in this class for that price anywhere else. Even if you only get 30K more before major work it's worth it.
Took mine home today
I'VE OWNED A ST-1100 AND 2 ST-1300. WITH OUT A DOUBT, AND I'VE RODE LOTS OF TOUR BIKES, THIS IS THE BEST SPORT TOURER EVER MADE!!!
LAST 4 EVER IF YOU MAINTAIN!!!
I own a 2017 R1200GSA, which I love, but nothing beat my ST1300. I miss that bike so much that I watch videos like this just to hear that engine again... Maybe one day, if I can get a bigger garage.
Glad to hear. I am picking up my 2006 ST 1300 tomorrow.
Jody Hodge hello, do you mind me asking did you get your bike? I’m possibly buying the exact same as you next week. Heard and read a few horror stories about high speed wobble and trying to get an honest opinion from guys like you who have one. Thanks
I beg to differ...
Then, Any reason as to why HONDA stopped making such a " BEST SPORT TOURER EVER MADE!!!"?
Seriously?!
I own a 2011 ST1300. I'm hooked. Will never own another model. I just love riding it.
What other bikes have you owned or compare it with? I am really into this bike...
I’ve had similar bikes (zg1000 concours, various ‘wings) but I’ve never experienced the ST or VFR Hondas, and I would absolutely love to find out what I’ve been missing!
I have my 1100 for years now and tryed the 1300 from a friend for a whyle. All i can say ..........no, i am not selling my 110 for the 1300. My 1100 is way better at higher speeds and with the cornering.. Maybe its just me loving my bike and not wanting to trade it in for another. I ride 700 km in one go and i will have no worry ,backpain or whatever at all. Maybe a little tired lol done it several times.
stephan devriesere I agree with you Stephan I ride 1500k every 2 weeks to work and I just love it what a bike
I just rode to Sturgis and back over the last week from Colorado Springs on my 2006. Fantastic bike and no soreness. 1k miles round trip, plus all the rides in South Dakota, just put about 2k total on it. Mine has 76k and still strong as ever. There are some great upgrades out there too. Anyone looking for a bike in the sport-tour genre, this is definitely a recommendation. Love This Bike!
Hey Jordan,
Do u still have your ST13? What were the upgrades you were talking about?
Thanks.
@@colinm1325 yes I do, though may be selling. I have a Sargent seat that is beyond comfortable, I have crash bars for my bags just in case, upgraded exhaust, and risers on the handlebars. I also have a 12v outlet so I can charge stuff or power stuff on the road, and I just installed a battery cable for a quick hook up to a trickle charger. The cable also tells me the status of the battery with a green or red light.
@@Maverick_cogx
Thanks 4 th reply, but what will u replace it with? A Goldwing?
@@colinm1325 at the moment nothing. We will see on the future.
I have a 2007 that is pristine and just magnificent,,, its powerful and handles like a sport bike, when honda did this bike the let a VFR and a Goldwing mate and they made a ST. its just an insane machine. its gonna stay with me til we die...
I owned this bike for 3 years. Super smooth nimble on its feet very easy to ride awesome horsepower for the highway. It’s more of a two wheel car than a visceral motor cycle
My dad had a 2006 st1300. Psycho would wheelie that tank at 10oclock no problem. He put over 150,000 miles on it as a daily commuting bike for work. Unfortunately he passed away in 2019, now the bike is sitting in my garage. Needs some work.
Did you get that puppy on the road?
I've had mine since 2004. Done lots of touring but also up in the twisties keeping up with the pure sports bikes. It kind annoys them as they see me as a tourer!! Great bike. Wish Honda would upgrade and release a new version with updated displays. Other than that, this is the bike for long distance. Very comfortable in all weather!!
I have a 2004 ST1300, fricken love it and that nearly 8 gallon tank is just a beast! Great as a touring bike with a sporty flair.
The ST1300 was supposed to be an improvement over the popular ST1100. Honda was hoping the 1100 owners would buy the new 1300. The ST1100 was so popular owners did not jump on board.as expected. I own an ST1100 with 345000 miles on it, at 100 mph it feels like you are doing 70 mph.
345? 4 Real?
@@joshcarlson8284 For real these V4 engines are solid build with the Timing Belt which should be chamge at 90.000miles. ST1300 however have Timing chain,so no service needed. There are ST1300 that even had no valve set even after 85.000miles. The speed wobble fix comes with front springs changed with some aftermarket advanced. ST1300 is reliable bike, same as ST1100.
John Silliker Both good bikes have ridden both - on Balance I’ll take my 1300
Rode one but found the steering heavy - and the ugly stovepipe exhaust put me off - otherwise good
Me too - 😎
Whew! Had to check my garage to make sure my 2012 ST was still there. Love my ST-1300!
Rode mine up to 140mph on UK roads, managed to get the back wheel to slick. An awesome bit a machinery, although rode Blackbird faster I will go back to one of these.
I’m so glad you started wearing gloves in newer vids.
Thanks Mom
I have a 2009 - and love it. 71,000km's, OEM Honda Pan European top box, OEM Honda heated grips. Only wish I could ride it 12 months of the year! (Canada...)
LoL!!! Dude, I was watching this video to get some pointers about my new purchase and was getting motion-sick as Hell!!! I was finding myself tilting my head into the turns, and looking for visual and auditory clues of traffic and threats around me. if I hadn't scrolled down to the comment section...there would have been regurgitated grilled cheese,and minestrone soup EVERYWHERE. It was like being on a roller-coaster. And that one-sided audio only magnified the effect. Man- GREAT video, and it confirmed i made the right purchase. Now I've go find me a SPRITE or GINGER ALE to settle my stomach. GREAT VIDEO, Sean (as Usua)l. Peace Out to my Fellow Riders! God Bless! Everybody stay Healthy & Safe!
I used to have a VFR 800. Rode an ST 1300 the other day and it BLEW the VFR out of the water. Unbelievable pull in every gear. Very comfortable seat and handlebars.
Don't you suppose the extra 500cc had something to do with it? Honda got the VFR's VTec boost all wrong as well, as it doesn't come on until you are way out of normal RPM cruising range, like 6000.
Still have great memories of riding on the back of my dads st1300. He got it from sold old guy for 10k with like 5k miles in 2003
I have a 03 and can only imagine I'll buy another later model of this bike. It has 53,000 miles now,not a single problem. There are other more sporty and faster sport touring bikes,but nothing as refined and comfortable. Ride one and you'll buy one!!
I ride a CTX 1300. Detuned for torque. Wonderful motor.
In Switzerland it has 126 hp. Maybe with more open exhaust it may have more. Above 4000 rpm it gets really sporty. And you can lean into the cornerblike a sportbike.
I have an 05 and love it, I will be taking it on a 1500 mile trip next summer. Super comfortable and stupid fast.
There are FJRs , Connies and R1200RTs but imho ST1300 are the kings. Had two of them, first was an '06, sold that one with 72k miles on it and sold it only to get one with abs, so I found an '09 with abs and so far this one has 65k miles on it. Yes, they are heavy, need 6th gear, bluh bluh bluh but I tell you, they are fun, very, very reliable, fast and awesome bikes. I came across couple of st1300 riders while back, one with 180k and other with 280k miles and they were going to Alaska from somewhere in the Midwest I think without any worries as far as high mileage. These bikes will run 90 mph all they long, great on curvy roads, great brakes, decent gas mileage (40-45mpg), not a drop of oil loss/burn between 5k miles oil changes. Some complain they are running hot, high speed wobble etc. I've been in 100 deg weather rides and never ever noticed any issues (besides being 100 deg outside of course) and I always wear all gear, had both bikes well past 100 mph and no wobble whatsoever ( both with tour packs on them). There are so many choices out there but for me and many others, ST1300 are it.
From what Ive read, the wobble story came from the Police bikes which had all this extra gear mounted to them which upset the balance of the bike. And also mismatched tyres apparently don't help.
I love, love, love my 07 ST! Honda put some true genius into designing it. I’ve said I’d never sell mine, but I’m considering doing so this spring and putting a Wing F6B in it’s place.
"Got tons of buttons..." There's a selling feature. ;)
"You've got clock, you've got buttons..." Love the videos!
2005 still rocking it at 73k miles. Can't get anything I like better.
Pan weave is very well documented. I have the 1100 and discovered the top box to be the culprit on my bike. Driving home after buying it 15 miles from home it was very difficult to control. I thought I bought a defective bike, so went online and found a suggestion to remove the top box. I thought it had to be much more than that but it wasn't. Cruised to Colorado and back shortly thereafter with no more weave action.
I leave my top box on but only put light items in it , mainly use it for a helmet lock box when i`m walking about. Never had a weave but i`m a steady eddie.
My friend just bought this bike. His first bike is a Kawasaki Vulcan 900 classic and he said he took this thing on the highway and did 120mph and it felt like he was going 70 on the other bike. He absolutely loves it and is gonna sell his Vulcan. He told me it cuts through the wind like a hot knife through butter
That's funny. I have a Vulcan 900 and am trading up to a ST1300. Can't wait to pick it up. I'm buying a well-maintained, dealer serviced 04 model with 42k miles. hopefully I will not need another bike for another 5 or 6 years (I ride about 15k a year)
@@GaryGarfole
Hey Gary, how hav the last 3yrs gone on the st?
R u gunna keep it longer than 4-5 yrs?😂
I have a 2005 St1300. No complains. I really enjoy it.
I have the Triumph Trophy absolutely love it, sports tourers are the best bike for long distances at good speed and comfort. Honda should make this bike with the new gold wing flat 6 and give BMW a run for their money for the GT 1600. I see the ST everywhere when I am out on my bike, ridden by really sensible mature adults, I always pop over and say hello to those type of riders, this bike seems to have their own cult following, a great bike.
I've only ever seen one or two ever while riding, not popular at all
I bought one, my third bike. I was only 140 pounds at the time. Riding it was never an issue. Picking it's 720 pounds up off the pavement was. Loved it when I had it. I will say it was kind of soulless though - kind of like driving a Honda Accord.
I’m 125lbs and ride this. Can’t even get it on the stand.
Soulless... That's a good comment. I've ridden one and it was so sublime I didn't even feel like I was on a motorcycle. I found it to be extremely boring, and nothing close to my BMW K1200rs.
I owned an 03, lots of power but puts off a TON of heat. Also not great around town, too heavy. If you have a long commute on open roads, great choice. Suspension does have lots of adjustment for various weights.
Just bought a 2004 1300A with 72,000 km on the clock after having an 1100A (which I still have) for the last 12 years.
I like it, thank you for uploading!
I have had a ST100 AND NOW HAVE A 2009 WITH 3 THOUSAND MILES AND 2 ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON SPEED WOBLES; I FLY ON MINE AND NEVER HAD PROBLEMS.
HAVE FUN THIS SUMMER.
Always i had sport bikes as Hayabusas, Gsxr, and always love to do wheelies e,t.c., but now in 50's i deside to buy St-1300 to be easy rider, i hope to not regret buying Paneuropean 1300.Will see!!!
BTW the seat height is adjustable. It is a great riding bike ( I have the police version) but fuel economy is mediocre puttering around town. Still it is a great ride, massive tank, great luggage and an engine that lasts a long time. Big buckets of power.
It'll fill your thrill for speed but also be a nice cruiser. Best of both worlds IMO.
Did you regret it? Or has it been a good bike?
Very special motorcycle. Fast, looks good, huge gas tank, 7.7 gallons. Love my 2003.
I have a 2002 st. I'm 5ft 7 and cannot flat foot it on the lowest seat setting. Although this bike is real heavy with a full tank and packed bags as long as you think before you pull in somewhere as to how you are going to get out again like a semi driver does its perfectly fine. I commute every day and just love this machine. I actually enjoy going to work because of the ride.
As for the heat problem... i wrapped my headers and its solved it!
Hey Sean what's up with the audio in one ear buddy I'm losing my mind here
Right! I'm listening on my brand new bose headphones.....thought they were defective at first. Was going to send them back.
Excellent vid, regards from Australia ..
Thanks for the vid! I don't know anything about the ST aside from what I've learned here... but I would assume the ST would be just as dependable as an old Goldwing, and I've seen old 1300/1500 GWs with over 140,000mi.
Curious what the original owner bought when this was traded 🤔
Probably bought a Goldwing
I would prefer to see you wearing a good quality pair of leather gloves while you’re riding. Great review of my favourite motorbike.
Maybe he doesn't want to wear a pair of leather gloves.
He falls on his knee.
Thanks Mom
@bill….you’re grounded! 😂
I have a 2003 ST 1300 first year they came out with the redesign I knew the owner of the dealership he told me I had one of 500 in the United States at the time I bought it. It was an eye Turner at poker runs and guess what I didn't have to stop and get fuel every other stop like the other bikes did. The thing is awesome only have 29,000 mi on it wish I had time to ride. Five and a half gallons up top and another two and a half gallons of fuel below the seat. 125 horsepower only thing I did to mine was put handlebar risers on it. If you turn the knob on the dash it raises and lowers your headlights if you have someone on the back and the lights are too high.
I have a ST1100 Pan
Off course I'm looking for the 1300.
took a hard hit from a merc from the back and this bike took it well. the electric screen is epic just below eye level i get no wind noise or crank it down to stay cold the front pockets are great. only real negative being some do get very warm
As Always, Great Review Shawn!
I found a cheapest ST selling for 7000usd (average used price in my country is around 1000 usd converted price). A 2003 with 121k mileage on it. ST is known for a bulletproof engine and I wonder if it can survive for another 80k before major engine top build. What maintenance on the engine should be done first before enjoying the full potential of the ST and should I be worry about the reported wobble? My highway speed with Yamaha Royal star is always above 160kmh and Im planning to do more with the ST. Fall in love with the looks of it and the police and firefighter here still using it and they still even use the cbx750.
It’s direct competition was the BMW R 1150 at the time - I’ve owned both. The BMW is nice but my tall frame is better on the ST1300 - it only lacks cruise control but that’s easily fixed. 😎
Just bought a nice candy red one after a spell with a BMW K1600gt.
Did not like the bmw after years of a pan , too big / heavy/ silly electronic throttle / difficult to remove top box / reverse gear was useless , slightest incline and would not move, i can go on.
Service light came on ,dealer wanted £200 turn it off , nope . sell it.
Back on a ST again , it`s like back home.
It`s old school so i can fiddle with out a laptop to make things work.
As with the heat problem , my old 2002 one was red hot on my legs , this later one i have and just used in traffic is much better, did not notice it at all really, maybe they cured on later ones ?
Can`t wait to book a French trip soon.
Dude you have the best job, riding and reviewing motorcycles. Mad jealous
Im an Asian with Pan European ST1300 proudly by my side..
I love my 09 ST1300. Best bike I ever bought.
Had my '07 for 17 months and hit 17 States. Amazing scooter!
Was unaware you could "floor" a motorcycle. 🤣🤣
That many miles on a Harley time for a overhaul i seen one with 265000 on it still runs great
Hey Shaun, ever ridden a VFR1200f? Mine has akrapovic, power commander, de restricted in 1st / 2nd and I loooove it. I cannot understand why it never took off sales wise? I'd be keen to see what you say?
Ive gone deaf in my right ear???. Great vid 👍
Too bad they don’t make this model any longer. It was heavy but didn’t feel heavy. Honda replaced this with the CTX 1300 (barf)
Patrick Callahan I asked Honda and they said the VFR1200F was the replacement or get the 2018 gold wing
Yeah, you might find one of those as a 2012 model sitting in inventory somewhere, but in their current line up the VFR 1200 is an X model, as in, adventure bike. I’m afraid if you are looking into a super sport tourer, Yamaha still makes the FJR 1300 ES, Kawasaki has the Concourse 1400, BMW makes a R1200 RT and RS.
Patrick Callahan rather have the K1600 BMW despite being expensive for labour and parts Honda do a VFR1200F which is the UKs replacement for the ST1300 even our police have them as unmarked but I prefer the older Vtec 750
Here in California, we have only the products that sell well here. I’m still waiting for the release of the new CB1000R, which has yet to arrive in the states. The VFR 800 is a nice bike, but hasn’t sold well, the VFR1200X is what your guys call the CrossTourer, but yeah, the K1600GT is sweet!
Patrick Callahan like you call the Kawasaki a concourse we call it the GTR1400 or GTX1400 depending on the package it comes with
States "test driving 15 bikes today", no prior knowledge of this bike, no insight into this bike beyond a brief ride. Why?
You must be new here
Not religious but love the words of wisdom on this one. Mid 30s setting personal bests in the gym and getting compliments for the salt in my beard.
Love the ST can’t wait till one near me goes for sale in the right colour
In Germany these things are extremely sought after. The cheeper ones have 100.000km and cost 4000€ upwards. Great bikes for fast Autobahn touring.
who wants to tour on an autobahn?
Have '09, great bike, after watching this, I'm going for a ride.
I have a 2005 with 100000 miles 160000km..and stil running smooth,,maintenace easy change the batterie once and brake twice..change oil seal front fork once....
Would this bike be good for someone that is 5 ft 4? I've seen an 05 model and I like the look of it
I’ve criss crossed the continent on my ST and on Goldwings. The ST is way more fun! Love the friggin thing.
Yes, the ST 1300 is in a class by itself!!!
Dang, I own a 2012 wing. I want a smaller bike
Choice between st1300 2011 model or fjr1300 2010 model
Need help can't choice one. Gawd it's hard choosing a bike.
I have the 2010 FJR 1300 (Liquid Silver). Faster and taller. The ST1300 mirrors and dashboard look like they belong to a Civic.
FJR1300 way better bike, no ST-wobble at high speed fx.
@@EnergyXyz No reported wobble on FJR at 130 mph with windscreen in low position, no tuck, side cases on...not that I would know that from personal experience.
Had a 650 V-Strom, but felt I needed a bigger bike to keep up with my buds on long (600+ mile) rides. Wife said "No" to two bikes, but couldn't wait. Rode the ST to Tail of the Dragon with said buds ... the ST ate it up, but would have been so much more fun on the V-Strom. They both do the same thing, except for premium fuel and a few MPG less on the ST. I owed $$ on the ST, the wife still wasn't comfortable with two bikes, so I prayed, "Lord, don't need two bikes, and I don't care which one goes." Two days later the ST was driving off into the sunset, making someone very happy. I would have been extremely happy with either, and ST ownership, for even a year or so, was a great blessing.
i just bought an 08 non-abs and truly love it. extremely comfortable and a blast to ride. very glad i bought mine. Now about that seat...
Hey, do u still hav ur st? Did u change the seat? Any other upgrades?
Thanks.
@@colinm1325 yes. I still have it. It already came with heated grips and the tank/knee pads. I installed a larger windscreen and currently have Pirelli angel Gt tires and bought a used Spencer seat.
I have a 2005 ST1300 the best .
Looking at a 1998 st 1100? 6000 miles $ 2.000 are good bikes?😁
Honda makes great bikes....period . I've had four VFR 800's . Bought them all used ( excellent shape ) and sold them for as much or just a couple of hundred under what I paid for them . Amazing machines...took one from Tulsa to Chicago another from Tulsa to Orlando FL. Not a hiccup , b*+ch or complaint . LOVE my vfr's.
I don't need no stink'n radio, I have my music piped right into my helmet speakers thanks to Bluetooth and Sena SMH-10. :-D
The ST's from any generation are sweeeeeeet bikes.
COYOTE ADVENTURES Some came with a factory radio.
My way of thinking. I can get a ram mount to fit the gps and smart phone I have. Then I can take them with me when I’m not on the motorcycle and use them in the car
Just saw this and had to pop in. I had an ST1100 for a couple years. Had a low speed slide into a muddy ditch. Had some minor cosmetic damage I could’ve fixed myself. After detailing it and riding it for a couple days it started running worse and worse till it died. My local Honda dealer wouldn’t work on it. They wanted to total it which the insurance company did. I miss that bike.
Mono audio? Really? This is 2018.
116hp and 85ft lbs torque.
Bike is clean..that's all I heard.
I had a 2001 VFR800. Very amazing sound with GPR exhaust, but uncomfortable as fuck. Sold that. Soon gonna buy an ST1300, has a V4 also but worlds different in terms of comfort. Can't wait!
I wanted to see a "ST Valkyrie". That would be MY style.
I'm 59, 6 foot 1. St 1300 fits well. Fjr too low, Concours too buzzy. Honda got it right, once you remove back box, lower screen from full height to near full, and adjust rear suspension. Tyre pressure has to be correct, and if tank is full it will lean over a little fast. But it is very safe very smooth and very capable. Lots of them are for sale by people who don't fully appreciate its abilities. It's cheap enough to allow you have a 2nd or 3rd bike. I'm keeping mine. Would replace only for a newer or lower miles version.
Great bike.
Can you tell me if you can look at a title of a bike and tell how many owners have owned the bike. Years ago I thought there is a number on the title number that showed that? Thank you for your time.
Some say the FI map from factory is abhorrent, and that the high speed death wobble is a real problem. I have heard of a lot of ST1100 owners who were sorry they switched to the ST1300 in the end. One I read, even sold the 1300 and went back to the 1100.
The 2014 CTX has the Honda V-4 engine. Unfortunately it was only made that one year.
They could have designed that better i love that bike except the bumper car front look .
Now that the ST1300 is out of production what is its Honda replacement?
My dream bike has always been a BMW R100RS. I am a sport touring guy but I love my 2006 Model. It's not pristine and has had a hard life but she gets down the road. She is a big girl but she can dance.
I had this bike for about 4 years and absolutely loved it. The electric mirrors and windshield were the tits. Ultimately - I had to get rid of it because it was just too god damned heavy. 750 lbs with the rider and fluids. It fell against me one time at a gas pump and that was not fun.
Great bike though and I cherish my memories with it.
What about the infamous Panweave issue? Some police forces apparently banned the bike because of it.
Never mind the wobble, going fast enough for it to happens scares the pants off me. :-)
There is a fix, front springs change and back also and you are good to go. That was pretty easy solution for most of the people that had same problem. Not every ST1300 has high speed weave.
You can reduce pretty much all of it by removing or reducing the weight of the payload of the top accessory box, and or cranking up the rear suspension preload.
I only notice a slight weave when l am passing a semi after leaving its slipstream until l get to some clean air. Nothing scary at all, no mater what the speed. I use my top box all the time, l just keep light stuff in it.
Police bikes on the other hand, are loaded to the hilt with radio’s, med kits, paperwork, rescue equipment etc... that’s when we first heard about the wobble.
@@raymondeddy3733 .
Hey man, great video. I have a 2004 ST1300, Love the bike, mine must be geared different that the newer ones. Red line in first gear is 110KPH (almost 70MPH) and YES the front wheel comes of the road with ease. Freaked my friends out when they saw it for the first time. When the time comes I'll be buying a newer one. Cheers
Looking for one of these. Been looking for awhile for the one I want. Want low miles. Hard to find because they’re fun to ride.
28300 on my 2007. MAP sensor failed. Replaced and it failed again 40 miles later. What gives?
Will never, ever understand why anyone would ride a motorbike with no gloves on! If you ever saw photos of someone’s hands after they’d slid down 75 yards of asphalt you’d see my point.....smh!
I can’t ride without them. Feels weird.
Someone who wants to wheelie an st😂
Is it automatica or manual 🤔
The good points, great weather protection, great riding position, great brakes, bad points, handling issues with the front end, easily upset on rough roads, the dreaded pan weave caused by poor design by Honda who refused to accept there was an issue which was actually caused by too much air flow over the front screen and pushing down on the rear of the bike, said to be cured many riders who refused to accept that this was the best Honda could produce as a flagship tourer...... And the solution was .....increase the air flow between the front screen and and fairing by moving the bracket's holding screen further out from the fairing, thus increasing down pressure on the front, then there's the generator alternator which go the same as the previous model st1100, try getting a used one any where scarce to say the least, ok yes I know other manufacturers have issues too but at least they updated their model's to cure and improve them like fjr1300 who started life at the same time but continued to address issues from incarnation to incarnation ,then there's the gtr1400 again does all st1300 does but better, all in all Honda missed the boat with an opportunity to improve and or replace the the model i.e their answer was vfr1200 which never hit the mark as a replacement or as a sports tourer in its own right, well that's my two cents worth as some who had experience of some of the above, I've met some happy st1300 owners down the year's who had little or non of these issues maybe you'll be one too.
You make some good points, mori mori, and a couple inaccurate ones. The original ST had a 28amp alternator, so that obviously went tits-up at the first installation of anything pulling serious current, like electric clothing. '96 models and later had a 40amp alternator, which completely cured that problem.
The dreaded "Pan Weave" was caused by insufficient weight on the front tire, aggravated by the ST13 being a shorter wheelbase than the ST11 and the use of a topbox, which caught the wind at speed. Lean backwards a bit in the cockpit and that's just enough change to the front tire contact patch friction to start the process.
You're certainly correct that the VFR12 missed the target, but I don't think that target was replacement of the ST line. Honda always made room for both a SPORT tourer and a sport TOURER in their line, until recently.
I agree about the lack of updates...Honda has always been an arrogant company, from the standpoint of saying, "Here's our best shot, live with it," rather than accepting customer input and continuously improving their models throughout their lifespan. I currently own an 2001 ST1100 and an 2013 FJR1300, and the FJR is very obviously the flagship of Yamaha's line, with every iteration showing constant improvement and tuning. If Honda had any interest in keeping the ST13 relevant, they would've eventually offered it with cruise control and heated grips, two features which are pretty much required in any touring bike today. But ST's were never major sellers...in my dealership in the 90's, we would likely sell only one ST1100 per year. And with every buyer looking to purchase ADV-style bikes now, it's not hard to see why the ST line never got any attention from the Honda beancounters.
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Range of fjr?
Will met any st owner with my fjr with 500. In pocket any place any time, any where.