Playing in 2020 and this mission is kicking my ass. the missions so far have been fairly easy on normal, but then this shit comes up. The game have never teached me how to assault big castle with big troops like this, and now it suddenly expects me to be an expert.
I did it! It took me an absurd number of attempts and a lot of save-scumming+10% speed. After clearing the north two towers, I also took out the third north tower with the 4 crossbowmen. Took a few attempts for archer miss rng and to split the crossbowmen correctly to fight 2 at a time, but meant I had lost far fewer troops while digging the moat. Even with that it was still very hard to storm the castle once the walls are breached.
Nice to finally see a strat not entirely based on exploiting bugs. This mission is incredibly tough and pretty poorly designed altogether, and I really wonder how it got through playtesting like this. Frendly unit AI makes missions that require any degree of micro, like here, extremely frustrating in this game. Units wander off or spread out for no reason, ranged units sometimes can't hit or refuse to attack for no apparent reason, laddermen can't seem to put up their ladders to save their lives, etc. The fact that you can't tell your ranged units to attack move is super annoying as well, as it tends to lead to massive unnecessary casualties as you approach enemy ranged units. Don't get me even started on catapults and how you can can't reload them all at the same time.
Yeah, something I find amusing is how players often complain about how new games have so many frustrating bugs but forget that old classics have the exact same problems. This attack strat btw was first pioneered on RUclips by a small channel called Lord Balder, be sure to give him some love as well. His videos don't have commentary which is an area in which I tried to improve on but I doubt I could have beat this mission without his guidance.
Yeah decided to cheat because this level just isn't worth the frustration. Even all the strats just to beat it on easy have a low success rate. Beating it would just be an empty victory because I had to use a guide anyways. I think the biggest issue is the pikemen standing in front of the keep that completely decimate the last of your forces. The closest I got was reaching to the crossbowmen on top of the keep but the macemen had such low health that the crossbowmen's melee finished them off so I threw in the towel there.
I thoroughly enjoy your commentary, and why i continue to watch your channel my good sir. IMO, It is your delivery that sets you apart from the many others that do the same thing here on you tube... Don't change a thing unless you wish it ; )
I really think the troop amount you have was a Firefly Studios error. It's hard enough on "Easy" difficulty, but definitely doable. The harder you select the difficulty, the less troops you have to start. I really think the amount of troops you have on "easy" was the intended amount on "very hard". Just my thought though.
Well done. Good contribution and way to give credit to the original uploader who showed this strategy. I had a hard time finishing this mission, specifically when I followed how you waited to fight the southern part of the castle until your macemen were done cleaning the north. I followed another youtuber's video and sent a few macemen and all spearmen into the southern base immediately, while running slightly fewer macemen around the northwestern wall. I found it much easier to get to the end with this.
Thanks alot , been a fan of crusader series since childhood but never owned 1st game and as for crusader ive only played superficially , recently bought 1st and decided i will play both campaigns 1st and crusader trails, started with 1 playing very hard and althought struggled with some earlier missions here and there but none just made me hopeless like this one, following this vid i managed to do after couple tries. Cheers!
There is another way to go trough the defences but it requires to sacrifice all of the archers. It's a lot more reckless way but it also works. You gotta use the hill near the left tower where you could shoot the crossbowmen and after that you could use full on assault with all the units. But since it's so reckless you may have less chances to complete the mission with that strategy.
I did this strategy with one difference... I snipped the crossbowmen on the far east side by hiding behind a rock 😂... The result was 75% lost troops, I ended up with about 9 spearmen, 7 macemen, 4 tunnelers and the ram with no engineers 😂... Funny enough I didnt have time to kill all of the archers in the north tower so I send 5 tunnelers and 3 spearmen to deal with them and they survived until the end 😂
Not that it matters but if going to the back of the castle leads to the Fenlands then that would be south east of that county's location, Lincolnshire to Norfolk
A litte bit tips here, use 3 crossbowmen to kill 3 enemy crossbow at the tower, use the hill as the advantage, they will try to refill the tower with normal archer so kill them to, this will save more than enough spearman to destroy the the pig srmy
The other 2 engineers inside the ram were probably "axed" by the game due to the very hard difficulty setting. I am not an expert on SH 1,I mostly played Crusader 1.
All People say for 20 years : 15 + 18 missions are hard. And I dont read main probleme. Firefly studio made horrible job with dig moat. Units select place where they may dig and they go around world to dig most stoopidly place possible. Is realy probleme to made units whos dig on place where you send them and continue digin´ around this place and not run around the world?!?!?! For me, FIREFLY STUDIO MADE BAD JOB HERE ABOUT MOAT, and thats why these missions is hard. And the imaginary height of awkwardness in the production of this mission is that there is no timeline CLEARLY VISIBLE to the player.
I got inside a castle and I killed all pig's troops but still defeated! Why??? Tried many times! there no one left inside a Castle but no Victory! Please help! What I have to do?
This is the worst mission in the entire game. Poorly designed, poorly executed and it doesn't even make any logical sense. If only they gave you a couple more archers.
Wait a minute, I am so surprised a lot of people never figured out this tactic, I used it like when I was 12 lol.. (But again I had a lot of free time and it was my 1000th try!).
I love this game but it is really flawed. You really need to rethink your game design when players need to resort to this slo-mo, micromanaging fuckery to win.
It is incredible stupid you dont have engineers to begin this mission. Why, if you could build them in the last mission, would you run foward without them (and obviously a small amount of ressources to actually make use of them)? Bullshit.
This is how medieval special operations forces look like
Playing in 2020 and this mission is kicking my ass. the missions so far have been fairly easy on normal, but then this shit comes up. The game have never teached me how to assault big castle with big troops like this, and now it suddenly expects me to be an expert.
My thoughts in 2002 exactly :)
exact same
playing in 2022 for the first time . deleted the game after snakes eyes mission cause of around the same reason.
I'm playing in very hard coz I've come playing in easy since I was kid lol
Pieсe of sнit mission
It’s absolutely ridiculous how few troops you get given on very hard. There’s no way they playtested this mission properly.
After more than 10 years... I did it! :D
Me too... hello from italy
@@sbrodolis Congrats on the Euro Cup!
I got stuck to this mission for 15 years lol
I did it! It took me an absurd number of attempts and a lot of save-scumming+10% speed. After clearing the north two towers, I also took out the third north tower with the 4 crossbowmen. Took a few attempts for archer miss rng and to split the crossbowmen correctly to fight 2 at a time, but meant I had lost far fewer troops while digging the moat. Even with that it was still very hard to storm the castle once the walls are breached.
Nice to finally see a strat not entirely based on exploiting bugs. This mission is incredibly tough and pretty poorly designed altogether, and I really wonder how it got through playtesting like this.
Frendly unit AI makes missions that require any degree of micro, like here, extremely frustrating in this game. Units wander off or spread out for no reason, ranged units sometimes can't hit or refuse to attack for no apparent reason, laddermen can't seem to put up their ladders to save their lives, etc. The fact that you can't tell your ranged units to attack move is super annoying as well, as it tends to lead to massive unnecessary casualties as you approach enemy ranged units. Don't get me even started on catapults and how you can can't reload them all at the same time.
Yeah, something I find amusing is how players often complain about how new games have so many frustrating bugs but forget that old classics have the exact same problems. This attack strat btw was first pioneered on RUclips by a small channel called Lord Balder, be sure to give him some love as well. His videos don't have commentary which is an area in which I tried to improve on but I doubt I could have beat this mission without his guidance.
Yeah decided to cheat because this level just isn't worth the frustration. Even all the strats just to beat it on easy have a low success rate. Beating it would just be an empty victory because I had to use a guide anyways. I think the biggest issue is the pikemen standing in front of the keep that completely decimate the last of your forces. The closest I got was reaching to the crossbowmen on top of the keep but the macemen had such low health that the crossbowmen's melee finished them off so I threw in the towel there.
4:30 the crossbowmen always reach my archers in this spot...
me too... i have 1.41 version. and you?
he make them go on the edge of the tower so that they can't reach his forces watch agian
OMG THANK YOU ! ..my life finally makes sense again..
Every level before this was so relaxing and pleasant to play. Respect to those who completed this without guides. I bet no1 got it on first try!
Figured it out myself, but was about ready to chuck the PC out the window before I got it.
Did it back when I was a kid. Now trying very hard. Def need help
Thank you! This mission was realy hard for no good reason.
This guide is the best. Wouldn’t have gotten through without it.
I thoroughly enjoy your commentary, and why i continue to watch your channel my good sir. IMO, It is your delivery that sets you apart from the many others that do the same thing here on you tube... Don't change a thing unless you wish it ; )
I appreciate the feedback, thanks for letting me know.
This is why I stopped playing back in the day! Thank you for getting me through this!
I really think the troop amount you have was a Firefly Studios error. It's hard enough on "Easy" difficulty, but definitely doable. The harder you select the difficulty, the less troops you have to start. I really think the amount of troops you have on "easy" was the intended amount on "very hard". Just my thought though.
Quite possible
Without abusing version dependent game mechanics this mission is still harder on easy than most missions on very hard.
@@RazingHel aparently it has been tested that there is a random factor too. sometimes crossbowman just hit 2 much
Well done. Good contribution and way to give credit to the original uploader who showed this strategy.
I had a hard time finishing this mission, specifically when I followed how you waited to fight the southern part of the castle until your macemen were done cleaning the north. I followed another youtuber's video and sent a few macemen and all spearmen into the southern base immediately, while running slightly fewer macemen around the northwestern wall. I found it much easier to get to the end with this.
I spend 8 years trying this lol
Keep up good work, rarely someone plays strategy now, also your voice sounds good. +1 sub :)
This mission would have been so much better if we were given a few portable shields so the archers and crossbowmen don't die in 10 seconds.
Thanks alot , been a fan of crusader series since childhood but never owned 1st game and as for crusader ive only played superficially , recently bought 1st and decided i will play both campaigns 1st and crusader trails, started with 1 playing very hard and althought struggled with some earlier missions here and there but none just made me hopeless like this one, following this vid i managed to do after couple tries. Cheers!
Thankyou so much, legit never beat this as a kid
we need a remake version of this amazing game !
@MysteriousMustacheMan I installed Stronghold 2 ...But I couldn't play it more than 4 times! it wasn't interesting to me at all
well there you go we got an excelent remaster
@@KingToniaaS Yeah I've already installed it :D great
There is another way to go trough the defences but it requires to sacrifice all of the archers. It's a lot more reckless way but it also works. You gotta use the hill near the left tower where you could shoot the crossbowmen and after that you could use full on assault with all the units. But since it's so reckless you may have less chances to complete the mission with that strategy.
You deserve more subs
Thanks for the vote of confidence, I do my best.
Well done friend, this was a super interesting watch
22:38 brilliant
Still can’t do it haha
heey nice vid, nice commentary and nice strat!
If you've got a bunch of guys heading through a gate or stairway etc, the ones at the back see that root as "blocked" so they choose another way.
Thank a lot dude, im playing in 2021 and, i lost my patience try win this chapter.
i just used this strategy on very hard and won with one maceman left on a sliver of health
I've noticed that if the ram is pretty sick when you exit the engineers, you only get two.
Thanks, just beat the hard level at the 17th attempt!:)
Useful. Thanks
I did this strategy with one difference... I snipped the crossbowmen on the far east side by hiding behind a rock 😂... The result was 75% lost troops, I ended up with about 9 spearmen, 7 macemen, 4 tunnelers and the ram with no engineers 😂... Funny enough I didnt have time to kill all of the archers in the north tower so I send 5 tunnelers and 3 spearmen to deal with them and they survived until the end 😂
Not that it matters but if going to the back of the castle leads to the Fenlands then that would be south east of that county's location, Lincolnshire to Norfolk
i never liked these kind of "siege" missions. crusader doesnt have it but they went and re-introduce it on stronghold 2
actualy some missions does havee a kind of similar siege missions
@@dradonie Well somewhat yeah but its not a part of the main campaign (crusader trail) where in SC1 you have to beat these missions to progress
Crusader LITERALLY has an entire historical campaign based on siege missions.
A litte bit tips here, use 3 crossbowmen to kill 3 enemy crossbow at the tower, use the hill as the advantage, they will try to refill the tower with normal archer so kill them to, this will save more than enough spearman to destroy the the pig srmy
I'm constantly unintentionally pressing spacebar to elevate the walls during this video
Thanks, ive tried to go forward on very hard mode
Hey man, would you consider doing a playthrough of Age of Mythology campaigns?
nice vid btw, keep up the good work!
Thanks for the words of encouragement, in regards to AoM, I'd consider it but only after I'm finished playing through the Stronghold franchise.
Thanks for the words of encouragement, in regards to AoM, I'd consider it but only after I'm finished playing through the Stronghold franchise.
atleast it's not a no, hehe. :p okay man!
The other 2 engineers inside the ram were probably "axed" by the game due to the very hard difficulty setting. I am not an expert on SH 1,I mostly played Crusader 1.
Interesting theory.
You only get two on hard as well.
Just fine! Thanks for the help.
This mission became so easy with this tactic... damn
Nice video
All People say for 20 years : 15 + 18 missions are hard. And I dont read main probleme. Firefly studio made horrible job with dig moat. Units select place where they may dig and they go around world to dig most stoopidly place possible. Is realy probleme to made units whos dig on place where you send them and continue digin´ around this place and not run around the world?!?!?! For me, FIREFLY STUDIO MADE BAD JOB HERE ABOUT MOAT, and thats why these missions is hard. And the imaginary height of awkwardness in the production of this mission is that there is no timeline CLEARLY VISIBLE to the player.
Awesome job! This is very unbalanced mission actually.
I'm here cuz this one is really difficult and I gave up, had to figure out how to do it.
Capo!!!
I god damn hate attaking this castle
I got inside a castle and I killed all pig's troops but still defeated! Why??? Tried many times! there no one left inside a Castle but no Victory! Please help! What I have to do?
Either the timer is up, or you are still missing someone 😅
I downloaded the mod and with this mission they cut the time down by at lest half. I believe it's absolutely impossible to beat!
I'ts Mission Impossible
play mount and blade
nothing was fixed in this misison with the definative edition...the dogshyte controls and bad AI still plague this mission
Hanya gua orang indonesia di sini, btw misi ini susah gila
stupid mission
This is the worst mission in the entire game. Poorly designed, poorly executed and it doesn't even make any logical sense.
If only they gave you a couple more archers.
Wait a minute, I am so surprised a lot of people never figured out this tactic, I used it like when I was 12 lol.. (But again I had a lot of free time and it was my 1000th try!).
I love this game but it is really flawed. You really need to rethink your game design when players need to resort to this slo-mo, micromanaging fuckery to win.
It is incredible stupid you dont have engineers to begin this mission. Why, if you could build them in the last mission, would you run foward without them (and obviously a small amount of ressources to actually make use of them)? Bullshit.
I have a very simple technique for this mission that makes it very easy.
Какой хардкор, пздец
You talk so much... Let us hear the game at least.