@@keith6706 Horner was 6th author so he had little contribution to the paper. Much of the paleo community is pretty onboard with nano being an adult, way before this paper was published.
nothing new what do u mean? This IS new. Sure we had other skin impressions of hadrosaurs, but this one has cells. And nanotyrannus has been controversial a long time but it looks like the controversy ends here.
This wasn't a real line of research. All these chumps did was study the leg bones of two different Nanotyrannus specimens, MICROSCOPICALLY, and called it a day and time does not always reveal its secrets correctly. Furthermore the man that helped contribute this project is the very same person who knows the least about Tyrannosaurus. So 2020 is starting off pretty idiotic for paleontology if you ask me. Here is a decent piece of research here. www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/93287-the-case-for-nanotyrannus/
to everyone who thinks nano is now invalid for sure, no. I'm not going to get into a flame war about this, but just know that this study only concluded the specimens of nano to be juveniles, and we already knew that. this study in no way proves nano invalid because by the same logic as this, Alioramus should be a juvenile Tarbosaurus.
Also, this is from Jack Horner, he can be wrong at times, been discredit sometimes and I think he came up with the T-Rex vision being based on motion and movement
Brad White The paper is not “from jack Horner” he’s not even the _lead author_ of the paper pioneering the study he’s just one in a team of 6 other paleontologists who collaborated on it.
Jack "Tyrannosaurus Rex was just a scavenger" Horner . . . Yeah, I don't blame you for caution. One of his reasons for Tyrannosaurus Rex being a scavenger were the size of its arms. Carnotaurus was discovered in 1984 and it has much smaller arms in comparison and we know that thing was a hunter so the arm size was demolished by that. The truth is that it did both.
@@maximaldinotrap I'd be more cautious because Horner is notorious for his claiming that multiple genera are really just the same genus at different growth stages. I saw someone point out one time that using Horner's method there's only two or three species of antelope in Africa and all the differences in horn structure and size are just different growth stages.
The paper has multiple authors, jacks not the lead in this. I’d advise just reading the study itself honestly advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/1/eaax6250.full
I still believe in nanotyrannus why you ask because of Dakotaraptor.If a large dromeosaur can live with T. rex why can’t a small tyrannosaur and if Daspletosaurus did evolve into T.rex why can’t gorgosaurus do the same with nanotyrannus?
Yeah, but evidence outside of any of Jack Horner's studies already shows that Nanotyrannus is simply the juvenile of Tyrannosaurus, or the juvenile of another tyrannosaurine
TheRublixCube The study doesn’t exactly “confirm” the synonymization of Nanotyrannus Lancensis and Tyrannosaurs rex. It reinforces older observations of age and skeletal maturity with a more rigorous study. You should read the paper.
Brad White You reply to basically every Nanotyrannus comment on this video trying to discredit Horner. Please stop, your accusations are baseless and misguided. Horner is not even the lead author of this paper. That title would go to Holly N. Woodward. You’re rather ill informed on the subject based on all of what you have said in other comments. You’re only spreading misinformation.
Wow Jack Horner finds more evidence that confirms his preconceived bias...fabulous! I have to say for 13 and 15 years respectively both specimens are still remarkably small and gracile if they are juvenile Tyrannosaurus. According to Horner's growth chart from birth to roughly 13 years of age, Tyrannosaurus put on roughly 1,000 kilograms. However, from 13 to 20 they put on 4,000 kilograms, for a total weight of 5 tons. This is dramatically unlike the growth curve of any other Tyrannosaurid. Oh and the estimated weights of both Jane and the Cleveland specimen is nowhere near 1 ton, more like half that figure. There is no doubt Tyrannosaurus occupied difference niches as they grew, as do Komodo Dragons today. To say Horner's findings definitively rules out the possibility of a second Tyrannosaurid in the Hell Creek is premature. I will still keep an open mind, pending further evidence--preferably from a researcher other than Jack Horner or one of his students.
@Opabinia regalis It's true I had not read the paper when I posted the comment, but I was responding to the video, not the paper. In future before I post on RUclips again I will make sure to have my comments peer reviewed and provide complete references. As for the points you make in your reply---I can't make heads or tails out of them? But from your tone I can deduce you are a complete asshole.
@Opabinia regalis Scary? "What we have here is a failure to communicate." I might have been willing to engage with you in an honest debate from the beginning, but your pissy tone turned me off, and quite frankly it was not worth the effort. Now please go away.
Characteristic of "efficient" distributed computer systems. They just don't care if the statistics are accurate. So when a new video is released, there is no guarantee that your results include all the effects of what is happening on different servers.
Rich Dobbs yes especially since the youtube servers are regional and they might receive as well as publish the video at different times. Most of the metadata is supposed to align eventually.
BS! Horner and others spouted off about immature Tyrannosaurus, years ago. With insufficient evidence. Nano tyranus has distinct features in jaw, tooth sockets, and arm bones that take it out of the taxa. Very bad show for established academics bullying new discoveries. While mature T-Rex undoubtedly had similarities, the arm bones and differences in structure described make Nano tyranus valid! Arms don't shrink. And the one Nano tyranus that preserved this feature, if it had been an immature T-Rex, would have meant its adult size would have nearly doubled the established sizes for nature specimens. Not reasonable!
Here's a thought: Was T-rex a pack hunter (as in a family group) or like monitor lizards, an opportunistic hunter? We get the impression that some dinosaurs nested and possibly cared for their young at an early stage that others opted more for a, "Okay, you're outs the shell. Now, get lost!!" This particularly possible for the large titanosaurs, whose young hatched from eggs the size of softballs. If T-rex and other theropod carnivores did not achieve adulthood till they were around twenty, is it more or less likely for them to have achieved a grouping habit? Or did they separate to avoid cannibalism and to compete for food sources?
You know it’s funny is that it’s been a year or two since I gave up that debate I do agree that it’s a juvenile tyrannosaurus but for 13 years I think I thought it was a species of its own and then like I said two years later I gave up
So honestly I'm curious so maybe someone can educate me. How exactly do cells fossilize? I didn't even know that was a thing. And how do they stay so we'll preserved for millions of years like that?
Pretty much the same way bones do. It has got a lot to do with the type of sediments involved in preservation. Although I haven’t read it yet, I’d recommend reading the paper. Link in the description. It will likely answer your questions more thoroughly.
Why does seemingly NO paleontologist have a clue about what a SPECIES is and what a GENUS? Why is there a freakin`debate about Nanotyrannus (GENUS!) and Tyrannosaurus (GENUS!) if the discussion actually is if they are the SAME SPECIES and therefore (almost) certainly the SAME GENUS in any case? .. same thing in certain Triceratopsians
@@enderman_666 Baby Bob" has 12 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 4 years old. CMNH 7541 a.k.a "Cleveland Skull" has 16 dentary teeth and is estimated to be somewhere between "Baby Bob" and "Jane" in age given size, but closer to "Jane". KUVP 156375 in the KU collection is of comparable age to "Jane" and has 12 maxillary teeth. "Jane" a.k.a BMRP 2002.4.1 has 17 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 11 years old. LACM 23845 doesn't have a complete jaw but appears to have has 12-14 dentary teeth if you reconstruct the missing parts and is estimated to be 14 years old. MOR 555 has 12 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 16 years old. "B-Rex" a.k.a MOR 1125 has 14 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 16-20 years old. MOR 008 has 13 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 22 years old. "Sue" a.k.a FMNH PR2081 has 13 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 28 years old.
Happy New Year, dudes, thanks for the edification and all the very best for 2020...um...nope...NanoTees are a separate species on the basis of nothing but 'I want it!'...*mutter*...I know they are...er...cos I want them to be...*mumble*...bloody bugger...
No worries, have hope, maybe in video games, they have the Stigy in the movies, Dracorex and Torosaurus in JW Evolution game so there might be a possibility, Also this came from Jack Horner who had been disproven many times and also worked on the Jurassic Park movies, so yeah
Wasn't Nanotyrannus as an actual animal buried long before this? At least we do have a confirmed medium sized predator of the time period in Dakotaraptor. I'm extremely biased towards T.rex but I never bought the idea that it solely occupied the niches of large and medium sized predatory theropod in its ecosystem.
Dakotaraptor has a bit of controversy behind it as well, supposedly elements of the holotype and referred specimens were later found to belong to extinct turtles.
Doesn't disprove Dakota as a valid genus, almost definitely some unlucky turtle just died/got fossilized at the same spot as Dakotaraptor coincidentially. Still, dakotaraptor remains are pretty fragmentary, and I heard some talk it might just be misidentified Anzu (a hell creek oviraptorid) bones, rather than misidentified turtle bones. But it's still a valid genus. The Hesperornithoides matrix found Dakotaraptor as an unenlagiine, but this position is to be taken with a grain of salt.
There’s been quite a bit of formal research arguing for and against the validity of “Nanotyrannus” up til now but given I’ve almost always found contentions for the latter more convincing this news isn’t really that surprising to me, if anything it’s kind of mundane and a little boring www.researchgate.net/publication/299602802_Dentary_groove_morphology_does_not_distinguish_'Nanotyrannus'_as_a_valid_taxon_of_tyrannosauroid_dinosaur_Comment_on_Distribution_of_the_dentary_groove_of_theropod_dinosaurs_Implications_for_theropod_
i actually read a biochemistry paper last year about the formation of LIPID bubbles around volcanic vents that suggested they couldnt have formed in salt water so 👀
I really find this vid extremely interesting especially at the 0:37 mark of where 10 sunscreen ingredients are banned containing oxybenzone in Palau This ban would be extremely useful especially in the Florida Keys. It is the third largest coral barrier reef system in the world (after the Great Barrier Reef and Belize Barrier Reef).The coral lies a few miles seaward of the Florida Keys, is about 4 miles wide and extends (along the 20 meter depth contour) 170 miles from Fowey Rocks just east of Soldier Key to just south of the Marquesas Keys.
Nano! NOOOOOOOOOOOO...! It's just a Horner's opinion anyway. Skulls are completely different, comparing to those of juv. T.rex (such as Bucky, Baby Bob... i still must compare it to Tufts-Love) . However, there are also quite huge differences between all 3 known Nano skulls. Probably tommorow i'll make a lil research, assumming that 'Jane', 'Bloody Mary' and Nano holotype are juv T-rexes. Let's see if it could be possible :) Individual variation needs to be considered too...
The Trikes controversial as well as Dracorex and the Stigymoloch thing as well, he is the Hollywood go to Palentologist, of course fame has gotten to his head a this point
Nano deserves his own Jurassic Park song- Or maybe as the intelligent commander of the new Troodon army? "He's Jurassic goose, and his feathers, chartreuse, and he likes to chase the humans, for he's groom'in them to serve in his pen, and..."
It came in seconds before I was about to publish the video, so we had to quickly redo it. I thought I'd add a little urgency given the recency of the news
All I can ever think about is how people would freak out if you started finishing intros for a while
Legend has it, if he does the world would end.
LMA....
im calling this for april fools 2020
RIP Nanotyrannus
he died so young
Young because he was actually a juvenile
@@kategrant2728 Jane who was a She: *Hold my Validity*
The problem is that it's from Horner, and Horner is notorious for being a lumper when it comes to classification.
@@keith6706 Mr "Torosaurus is an ADULT triceratops, despite the evidence against it".
@@keith6706 Horner was 6th author so he had little contribution to the paper. Much of the paleo community is pretty onboard with nano being an adult, way before this paper was published.
So far 2020 started off good in paleontology, a skin impression with cells and nanotyrannus confirmed as a juvenile trex.
nothing new what do u mean? This IS new. Sure we had other skin impressions of hadrosaurs, but this one has cells. And nanotyrannus has been controversial a long time but it looks like the controversy ends here.
nothing new So hadrosaur cells and the huge nannotyrannus controversy being solved is nothing new?
Yeah,i hope next year we finally found a fresh dinosaur dna so we can see them in flesh for the first time.
This wasn't a real line of research. All these chumps did was study the leg bones of two different Nanotyrannus specimens, MICROSCOPICALLY, and called it a day and time does not always reveal its secrets correctly. Furthermore the man that helped contribute this project is the very same person who knows the least about Tyrannosaurus. So 2020 is starting off pretty idiotic for paleontology if you ask me.
Here is a decent piece of research here. www.thefossilforum.com/index.php?/topic/93287-the-case-for-nanotyrannus/
@@anakinskywalker2707 "Fresh DNA that is 65 million years or older."
Do you guys know when you will guys continue the Scientific Accuracy of Walking With Dinosaurs?
hopefully this Sunday as that is the usual upload day
They do take like a year to make
Thank god u asked it from past few videos I thought that I m the only guy who remembered the series.
Hell, even I m asking the same thing
What do you guys think is the reason they stopped the series?
This just in:
*PALAU IS THE FIRST COUNTRY*
"happy new year everyone, welcome to nude-"
@Atheistrix yeah I know, it just sounds especially funny in this one
I mean, the whale WAS nude
You seem to have cut off at the end of the intro, first time I've heard that in like, a year! Did you say new d----
I got Dougal Dixon's After Man as a late Christmas present! And happy New Year!
Awesome gift!
@@BenGThomas thanks!
I got all yesterday’s and proceeded to freak our my entire family on the section about beastiality
Blame Jurassic Fight Club for the Nanotyrannus controversy.
It was alive and well far before then.
@@Dynotop1a It's been alive ever since that first skull that Robert Bakker dubbed Nanotyrannus was discovered.
Yes
@@kevinnorwood8782
I guess only Nigel Marven can answer the question ...
@@cottoncatt1186 BRING BACK PREHISTORIC PARK! Or any Nigel Marven dinosaur documentary. The man is among the greatest!
Article about Nanotyrannus validity : _I sleep_ 💤 🛏
New Hadrosaur skin : *REAL SHIT?!!?!?* 👀
His intros are actually juvenile videos, and therefore not their own thing
You are....
.... *_Invalid_*
@@SpinoAdri2001 Yes
@@monkeytime3169 You did good in the end -Troodon- oh jeez I mean _Stenonycosaurus_
@@SpinoAdri2001 Give me your socks
@@monkeytime3169 what!?
I think The Fossil Thanos snapped his fingers.
First Troodon, now nanotyrannus, what other beloved genus will bite the dust?
"Beloved"
Miquel Escribano Ivars haha I mean well known and popular
Wait, what happened with Troodon?
@@Sebastian-tm6hk A study came out recently that shows the genus Troodon is no longer valid
The Two Medicine troodontid NEEDS to be named Troodon or 'Eutroodon'!
I can’t take anything Jack Horner says seriously. He’s the worst palaeontologist ever.
I'm more of a Robert Bakker guy myself
I don't know anything about him but I can't take him seriously because:
Little Jack Horner
Sat in the corner...
@@trainjackson63 lol
to everyone who thinks nano is now invalid for sure, no. I'm not going to get into a flame war about this, but just know that this study only concluded the specimens of nano to be juveniles, and we already knew that. this study in no way proves nano invalid because by the same logic as this, Alioramus should be a juvenile Tarbosaurus.
Also, this is from Jack Horner, he can be wrong at times, been discredit sometimes and I think he came up with the T-Rex vision being based on motion and movement
Brad White The paper is not “from jack Horner” he’s not even the _lead author_ of the paper pioneering the study he’s just one in a team of 6 other paleontologists who collaborated on it.
That is so true, there is so much bias towards alioramus
100% They can’t support one thing being valid and be bias towards the other being invalid
Alioramus have a spiky crest on its head which Tarbosaurus did not. Therefore, it is valid
It's sad, but hearing Jack Horner was involved always makes me sceptical...
Yup, when I heard that I lost all credibility, he was involved with the Jurassic Park movies, so yeah
@@bradwhite5884 How much power did he have in the making of that film again?
Well, you're more than welcome to challenge his assumptions if you know something that he doesn't.
Jack Horner? Ehhh....I'll take a little caution on this.
Jack "Tyrannosaurus Rex was just a scavenger" Horner . . .
Yeah, I don't blame you for caution.
One of his reasons for Tyrannosaurus Rex being a scavenger were the size of its arms. Carnotaurus was discovered in 1984 and it has much smaller arms in comparison and we know that thing was a hunter so the arm size was demolished by that.
The truth is that it did both.
@@maximaldinotrap I'd be more cautious because Horner is notorious for his claiming that multiple genera are really just the same genus at different growth stages. I saw someone point out one time that using Horner's method there's only two or three species of antelope in Africa and all the differences in horn structure and size are just different growth stages.
The paper has multiple authors, jacks not the lead in this. I’d advise just reading the study itself honestly advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/1/eaax6250.full
Jack "Vision based on movement"/"Triceratops and Torvosaurus are the same species" Horner?
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internet: NEW GROUNDBREAKING STUDY
Me: YESSSS
Internet: ...Made by Jack Horner
Me: ...Fuck.
3:00 dont tell me that scribble behind the juvenile rex’s legs is a signature
More walking with dinosaurs please
"Happy new year everyone, welcome to a nude"
Saucy
I still believe in nanotyrannus why you ask because of Dakotaraptor.If a large dromeosaur can live with T. rex why can’t a small tyrannosaur and if Daspletosaurus did evolve into T.rex why can’t gorgosaurus do the same with nanotyrannus?
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So when’s that next Walking with Dino’s video gonna be out?
This cutting off of the narration in the intro can be fixed if you simply con---
So nanotyrannus is just a juvenile t-Rex
Yeah, this isn't anything new, just the study confirms it.
By Jack Horner who has been disproven a couple of times and does not know anything about the T-Rex
Yeah, but evidence outside of any of Jack Horner's studies already shows that Nanotyrannus is simply the juvenile of Tyrannosaurus, or the juvenile of another tyrannosaurine
TheRublixCube
The study doesn’t exactly “confirm” the synonymization of Nanotyrannus Lancensis and Tyrannosaurs rex. It reinforces older observations of age and skeletal maturity with a more rigorous study.
You should read the paper.
Brad White
You reply to basically every Nanotyrannus comment on this video trying to discredit Horner.
Please stop, your accusations are baseless and misguided.
Horner is not even the lead author of this paper. That title would go to Holly N. Woodward.
You’re rather ill informed on the subject based on all of what you have said in other comments.
You’re only spreading misinformation.
Wow Jack Horner finds more evidence that confirms his preconceived bias...fabulous! I have to say for 13 and 15 years respectively both specimens are still remarkably small and gracile if they are juvenile Tyrannosaurus. According to Horner's growth chart from birth to roughly 13 years of age, Tyrannosaurus put on roughly 1,000 kilograms. However, from 13 to 20 they put on 4,000 kilograms, for a total weight of 5 tons. This is dramatically unlike the growth curve of any other Tyrannosaurid. Oh and the estimated weights of both Jane and the Cleveland specimen is nowhere near 1 ton, more like half that figure. There is no doubt Tyrannosaurus occupied difference niches as they grew, as do Komodo Dragons today. To say Horner's findings definitively rules out the possibility of a second Tyrannosaurid in the Hell Creek is premature. I will still keep an open mind, pending further evidence--preferably from a researcher other than Jack Horner or one of his students.
@Opabinia regalis It's true I had not read the paper when I posted the comment, but I was responding to the video, not the paper. In future before I post on RUclips again I will make sure to have my comments peer reviewed and provide complete references. As for the points you make in your reply---I can't make heads or tails out of them? But from your tone I can deduce you are a complete asshole.
@Opabinia regalis What are you the sheriff of RUclips? I will come and go at my pleasure. Thank you.
@Opabinia regalis Scary? "What we have here is a failure to communicate." I might have been willing to engage with you in an honest debate from the beginning, but your pissy tone turned me off, and quite frankly it was not worth the effort. Now please go away.
@Opabinia regalis The only thing I would like to cut is any further contact with you. Later much.
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I *knew* Nanotyrannus was just a juvenile T-Rex; fossil studies suggested its bones weren't dense enough for it to be a full grown animal.
Sgrinwaipwr Nanotyrannus isn't a juvi rex though...
Woo! One of my favorite holiday presents to be sure
I know no one cares but I just got full adult rex in the isle...
That’s it.
Communist chameleon cool, i have become an adult rex on isla nycta 3 a few times
Congrats my man
Happy 2020! Long live Ornithoscelida!
I'll Now Be Scared for My Life, Due to COPPA Taking Action.
The 5 dislikes are from Nanotyrannuses lol
And radical creationists/religious people
And apparently two Nanotyrannus shills, mr. N and some Casey guy
@@enderman_666 and me!
If you look into the bones it should show if young or adult
They need to buy baby bob before anything else
Agree
@@lukeskywalkerjediknight2125 yup
Are you sick???
Ok that dinosaut skin is something else for creationist to blown out of proportion and miss represent to hell and back
Yep
The Nanotyranos were just the Italian/manlets of the dinosaur community.
The video was uploaded 3 minutes ago but some of the comments
Were posted 4 minutes ago?! Go home RUclips, you’re drunk...
Characteristic of "efficient" distributed computer systems. They just don't care if the statistics are accurate. So when a new video is released, there is no guarantee that your results include all the effects of what is happening on different servers.
Rich Dobbs yes especially since the youtube servers are regional and they might receive as well as publish the video at different times. Most of the metadata is supposed to align eventually.
Tom Scott has a video about this
I honestly don't think this proves nanotyrannus as juvenile rex, rather that it provides more evidence that it is.
I know right. The answer to this debate is unfortunately in private hands (Baby Bob)
Aww, I was hoping that the mini tyrant would be it’s own.
It is.
Eh, it's Jack Horner. If he had his way, at some point we would just have one genus encompassing all of dinosauria.
i know right
Jack Horner...
He sat in a corner
@@ScionStorm1 Eating his Christmas pie;
He put in his thumb,
And pulled out a plum,
And said, "What a good boy am I!"
Interesting video and happy New Year 🥳👍🎇
Happy new year everyone, welcome to a nude?
BS!
Horner and others spouted off about immature Tyrannosaurus, years ago. With insufficient evidence. Nano tyranus has distinct features in jaw, tooth sockets, and arm bones that take it out of the taxa. Very bad show for established academics bullying new discoveries. While mature T-Rex undoubtedly had similarities, the arm bones and differences in structure described make Nano tyranus valid!
Arms don't shrink. And the one Nano tyranus that preserved this feature, if it had been an immature T-Rex, would have meant its adult size would have nearly doubled the established sizes for nature specimens. Not reasonable!
I feel like I get 2 videos in one every time - I look forward to your intros as much as to the main video. Thanks, guys!
Do you ever find yourself dramatically saying "Ben G. Thomas!"
Is this the first time we’ve ever found a baby T. Rex? I feel like I remember hearing before today we’d never found babies or eggs.
Can jack caronavirus so nanotyrannus can be valid again
Here's a thought: Was T-rex a pack hunter (as in a family group) or like monitor lizards, an opportunistic hunter? We get the impression that some dinosaurs nested and possibly cared for their young at an early stage that others opted more for a, "Okay, you're outs the shell. Now, get lost!!" This particularly possible for the large titanosaurs, whose young hatched from eggs the size of softballs. If T-rex and other theropod carnivores did not achieve adulthood till they were around twenty, is it more or less likely for them to have achieved a grouping habit? Or did they separate to avoid cannibalism and to compete for food sources?
Palau has had huge problems in recent years with tourists damaging their natural treasures. The sunscreen ban is a good first step.
No surprise that the Nanotyrannus is pictured about to eat Jack Horner's nemesis: Bob Bakker. :D
Jack Horner 😧.
Give me a break m8.
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Nice video
If Jack Horner is involved, it must be wrong
Breaking News my foot, just told us what anyone with half a brain figured out years ago. Confirmation is nice I guess but still.
Lion Heart confirmation is the difference between a theory and a law, it’s pretty important
I read this as your foot telling you things and I was momentarily concerned you were talking to your feet.
I remain neutral for now.
That is awesome Nanotyrannus is part of Tyrannosaurus tree AWESOME to no about Learn something new for the new year
Loralee Loomis Nanotyrannus isn't a juvi rex though
What happened to the voice?
I'm afraid I'm still a bit ill, but should be fine next week!
Hope you recover soon!
You know it’s funny is that it’s been a year or two since I gave up that debate I do agree that it’s a juvenile tyrannosaurus but for 13 years I think I thought it was a species of its own and then like I said two years later I gave up
and spino walked on 4 legs
that theory was disproven, Spino did have very short legs, but it walked on only the hind legs.
any proves ?
@@therublixcube3052 Source?
@@prixe12 Ibrahim et al 2020 on the new spinosaurus tail fluke. The tail fluke places the center of mass comfortably above the pelvis.
NanotyranEpstein didn't kill himself
So honestly I'm curious so maybe someone can educate me. How exactly do cells fossilize? I didn't even know that was a thing. And how do they stay so we'll preserved for millions of years like that?
Pretty much the same way bones do. It has got a lot to do with the type of sediments involved in preservation. Although I haven’t read it yet, I’d recommend reading the paper. Link in the description. It will likely answer your questions more thoroughly.
The clipped intro trope is getting old and detracts from the high quality of your videos.
Good for the prohibition, makes sense I think anyway.
I like the drawings of the Nano T- Rex with the bird legs.
Onus Cronus its a drawing of Saurian's old T. rex baby
fuckin jurasic park but how are these discoveries so great now but not back then
I wish nanotyrannus it's it's own genus
Jurassic Floy it's not a baby/juvi rex
Wait what it's not I thought it was
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@@caseythorne7552 Casey, go home and blame other for their true mistakes.
Communist don't care about dinosaurs
Of course the study was from Jack Horner.
Why does seemingly NO paleontologist have a clue about what a SPECIES is and what a GENUS? Why is there a freakin`debate about Nanotyrannus (GENUS!) and Tyrannosaurus (GENUS!) if the discussion actually is if they are the SAME SPECIES and therefore (almost) certainly the SAME GENUS in any case? .. same thing in certain Triceratopsians
@Art Neihaus xD
Hell yeah! First video of the year!
The Nanotyrannus debate is far from over I'm afraid.
yep, i have seen a skeleton of an actual juvi rex, looks similar but have alot of differences compared to nano
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@@lukeskywalkerjediknight2125
Then go write a paper on it? Oh, that's right, you aren't a paleontologist, just some YT Nanotyrannus shill.
@@enderman_666 Baby Bob" has 12 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 4 years old.
CMNH 7541 a.k.a "Cleveland Skull" has 16 dentary teeth and is estimated to be somewhere between "Baby Bob" and "Jane" in age given size, but closer to "Jane".
KUVP 156375 in the KU collection is of comparable age to "Jane" and has 12 maxillary teeth.
"Jane" a.k.a BMRP 2002.4.1 has 17 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 11 years old.
LACM 23845 doesn't have a complete jaw but appears to have has 12-14 dentary teeth if you reconstruct the missing parts and is estimated to be 14 years old.
MOR 555 has 12 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 16 years old.
"B-Rex" a.k.a MOR 1125 has 14 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 16-20 years old.
MOR 008 has 13 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 22 years old.
"Sue" a.k.a FMNH PR2081 has 13 dentary teeth and is estimated to be 28 years old.
@@enderman_666 And Tarbosaurus the closest Rex relative have the same tooth count as adults
You gotta love the dinosaurs. !:- )
Happy New Year, dudes, thanks for the edification and all the very best for 2020...um...nope...NanoTees are a separate species on the basis of nothing but 'I want it!'...*mutter*...I know they are...er...cos I want them to be...*mumble*...bloody bugger...
You COULD just keep calling them nanotyrannus. After all, many species have different names for their young.
Common Pepe...oh, I'm gonna, hehe! Happy New Year, all the best to you
Looks like my hopes of seeing a nanotyranus in a jurassic park type movie are moving ever closer to being complwtely dashed.
No worries, have hope, maybe in video games, they have the Stigy in the movies, Dracorex and Torosaurus in JW Evolution game so there might be a possibility, Also this came from Jack Horner who had been disproven many times and also worked on the Jurassic Park movies, so yeah
Wasn't Nanotyrannus as an actual animal buried long before this? At least we do have a confirmed medium sized predator of the time period in Dakotaraptor. I'm extremely biased towards T.rex but I never bought the idea that it solely occupied the niches of large and medium sized predatory theropod in its ecosystem.
Dakotaraptor has a bit of controversy behind it as well, supposedly elements of the holotype and referred specimens were later found to belong to extinct turtles.
@@seandewar47 Well, shit.
Doesn't disprove Dakota as a valid genus, almost definitely some unlucky turtle just died/got fossilized at the same spot as Dakotaraptor coincidentially.
Still, dakotaraptor remains are pretty fragmentary, and I heard some talk it might just be misidentified Anzu (a hell creek oviraptorid) bones, rather than misidentified turtle bones. But it's still a valid genus. The Hesperornithoides matrix found Dakotaraptor as an unenlagiine, but this position is to be taken with a grain of salt.
There’s been quite a bit of formal research arguing for and against the validity of “Nanotyrannus” up til now but given I’ve almost always found contentions for the latter more convincing this news isn’t really that surprising to me, if anything it’s kind of mundane and a little boring www.researchgate.net/publication/299602802_Dentary_groove_morphology_does_not_distinguish_'Nanotyrannus'_as_a_valid_taxon_of_tyrannosauroid_dinosaur_Comment_on_Distribution_of_the_dentary_groove_of_theropod_dinosaurs_Implications_for_theropod_
@@jasonvoorhees5180 I just really hope Baby Bob gets into a museum. A true juvenile Rex and looks nothing like Nanotyrannus
I keep wondering why the announcer keeps getting cut off at the beginning. 😂
Running gag
It's a deadly killer as tall as a human... I dunno if "nano" is totally justified.
'Manotyrannus"
@@ScionStorm1 Nanotyrannus*
why does the intro always cut out
In every video you've put out lately your intro is cut short, is everything okay?
It's always cut short. It's a running gag the channel has been doing for a long time.
@@ScionStorm1 ohh
Well happy new year guys!
lol watching jan 1st 21 whoop whoop
NONO-tyrannus
Happy new year everyone, welcome to a new-
i actually read a biochemistry paper last year about the formation of LIPID bubbles around volcanic vents that suggested they couldnt have formed in salt water so 👀
Jordanius Tritcat got a link?
@@JoJoZaka ugh i wish, i can try to find it though, will keep you posted if i find it
@@JoJoZaka found it! onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/ar.10154
Nonotyrannus indeed.
Happy New Year to you too, B---
Hah! Already new about the recent Nanotyrannus study!
The awful study about Nanotyrannus and Rex being the same?
2020 and we're still perpetuating visions of feathered T-Rexes...
I really find this vid extremely interesting especially at the 0:37 mark of where 10 sunscreen ingredients are banned containing oxybenzone in Palau This ban would be extremely useful especially in the Florida Keys. It is the third largest coral barrier reef system in the world (after the Great Barrier Reef and Belize Barrier Reef).The coral lies a few miles seaward of the Florida Keys, is about 4 miles wide and extends (along the 20 meter depth contour) 170 miles from Fowey Rocks just east of Soldier Key to just south of the Marquesas Keys.
Welcome to a new d to you too.
Hi can you do an Animal of the Week about the siphonophore? They're incredibly interesting animals!
So this means Tyrannosaurus was also cannibalistic given Nanotyrannus used to be said to prey on younger Rexes.
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Nano! NOOOOOOOOOOOO...! It's just a Horner's opinion anyway. Skulls are completely different, comparing to those of juv. T.rex (such as Bucky, Baby Bob... i still must compare it to Tufts-Love) . However, there are also quite huge differences between all 3 known Nano skulls. Probably tommorow i'll make a lil research, assumming that 'Jane', 'Bloody Mary' and Nano holotype are juv T-rexes. Let's see if it could be possible :)
Individual variation needs to be considered too...
It’s not an opinion. This is a genuine scientific study. It’s a good paper, you should read it.
@@Dynotop1a To be fair we do tend to be cautions whenever Jack "Tyrannosaurus was just a scavenger" Horner is involved with anything.
@@Dynotop1a I know :) i will :D
The Trikes controversial as well as Dracorex and the Stigymoloch thing as well, he is the Hollywood go to Palentologist, of course fame has gotten to his head a this point
@@bradwhite5884 Triceratops is not controversial. Torosaurus has practically been proven to be a different genus and species than Triceratops.
Nice, what about Wallace ll submissions?
Nano deserves his own Jurassic Park song-
Or maybe as the intelligent commander of the new Troodon army?
"He's Jurassic goose, and his feathers, chartreuse,
and he likes to chase the humans, for he's groom'in them
to serve in his pen, and..."
smol-boi™
Moist
Dayum, Nanos got pondered.
ruclips.net/video/6YSbM0fr59k/видео.html
noice
You were so passionate about the nano-tyrannous news
It came in seconds before I was about to publish the video, so we had to quickly redo it. I thought I'd add a little urgency given the recency of the news
Ben G Thomas it's my favourite news of the week. Thanks for replying bruh