@pluemas it's not about what is more interesting, it's about what's plausible. I dont think either are very plausible but the dicynodont idea make slightly more sense. I'd say they just took elements from animals they do know of though- like the tusks of an elephant
I agree with you, see my comments elsewhere in this comment section. The fossil theory is an interesting if slightly out there hypothesis to consider as an alternative to it being an imagined creature, pending any definitive evidence to prove that it was. I don't think the archeologist was suggesting anything more than that.
An Iron Age Celtic image looks for all the world like a Dalek, it is in fact a rather stylised depiction of a vertical weaving loom. Just because an ancient piece of art looks like something that exists for us, does not mean that it depicts what we think it looks like.
Closest thing Google can show me to a dalek using your description is a peice of jewelry with a bunch of chains with triangles on the bottom. And two animals starring at eachother on the top. The triangles have a series of indentations made from the back so they look like spheres arranged in three rows.
Rock paintings are always very sus. Sure they can depict real animals, but they can also depict completely made-up monsters. Humans by definition are creative.
There are cave paintings so detailed that we can tell which species they were referring to, in addition to sex and age. I don’t think it is a 200+ million year old animal but ancient people weren’t STUPID lol
@@prezhenz6969 did I say they were stupid? I said they were creative and that they could have made up fantasy monsters. Just like modern humans love doing.
@@bengreen171 What are you talking about?? It is specfically stated that the drawing may have been inspired by the finding of fossils from 200. m years ago. Not that the socalled Sand People actually saw one a live...Apparently as said there were many fossiled skulls in the rock formations on said island. So all this demonstrates is that the earth is more than 6000 years old & that Noah did not save all kinds of animals. Right??
@@Espinozaize I think you've mistaken me for a creationist. What you said about the story is all perfectly true of course - but the disappointing truth is that if someone like Ken Hamm or Kent Hovind comes across this story, all they will take away from this is 'people in Africa (it's the San, not Sand, by the way - you're thinking of Star Wars) drew dinosaurs' is exactly that - that they must have seen them alive. I can see how my comment could be misleading - I perhaps shouldn't have put quote marks round 'science media' like I did - I didn't mean it to seem like 'science media' wasn't a legitimate thing, or that this video wasn't about real science.
That thing looks nothing like a dicynodont. Walruses also have warts, specially around their necks, as depicted. The tusks are also way more similar to those of a walrus'. Somehow they might have seen one.
The San people have been isolated in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years. Meanwhile walruses never ocurred in the south hemisphere. The dicynodont hypothesis is more likely
@@jksjksjsjks How? Dicynodont remains, including SKIN, are revealed through erosion, while there are no south hemisphere walrus relative. Are you stupid?
I'm guessing you posted before actually watching the relevant part of the video. The claim isn't that it's an actual depiction of a dicynodont, but that it's a fantastical creature inspired by the local people finding dicynodont fossils, which occur locally and are often very well preserved. It's definitely a bit of a stretch, but it's not the first time in history something similar has happened. Dinosaur fossils were traditionally called 'dragon bones' in ancient China, or assumed to be the remains of giants in Europe. Skulls of extinct elephants were thought to be the remains of cyclopses in ancient Greece, due to the large holes in their fronts. It's a very speculative theory that's pretty much impossible to prove, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
That rock art is much more likely to be based on a snake. The fangs are much more like the teeth of a viper than those of the fossil or a walrus. Some kind of snake man/snake with legs drawn in the act of biting would be my bet. The other thing to do is ask some of the San themselves.
This was my thought as well, snakes with legs are a common concept in mythology, and a very easy concept to come up with. Lots of myths explain how the snake lost its legs. As for asking the San, I expect that's been done already, but if the painting is from the 19th century or older it's likely that San today don't know what inspired the piece.
I didn't think of it but yeah, a snake with legs seems like something far more likely based upon the San's surroundings than the reconstruction of a fossilised skull they found. Not that I don't think they might have wondered what an animal laving behind such a skull would have looked like, but it just wouldn't have played a role in their myths being so distant from their daily life.
so where are those supposed sabreteeth. the whole dumb story is based on the assumption that these would be there. But when one looks closely at the photos of the actual cave painting, there is bluish colour everywhere around. It is an artifact of either a later or earlier painting that erosion deleted mostly or mineral formation.
I can't wait for professional young-Earthers to use the dicynodont paintings as "proof" that all animals lived together before the Flood... except I doubt any of them know what a dicynodont is.
I just know that 10 years from now creationists will STILL use it as a point and we are all going to be like "really ? The dicynodont thing in the year of our lord 2077 ?"
@@NeilDegrasseTysonWithAKatana Hell evolution has been proven time and time again to the point that evolution has become and inviolable law of life, as concrete as gravity and thermodynamics, but they'll still say they haven't seen a mosquito turn into a donkey and somehow that proves their theory. Like yeah mfer I haven't seen no hill turn into a mountain either but that doesn't mean I deny fucking plate tectonics.
@@NeilDegrasseTysonWithAKatana I am, they're the kind of people that never accept when they are wrong, it just gets tiring after a while and it's a battle not worth fighting, whenever you throw faith into the mix that stuff thickens up like plaster 😔
I think the "horned serpent" of the natives (of many different places) could definitely be based on dinosaur fossils. Everything else is usually a regular-shaped animal and then they'll have one that's just like this which always interested me and then recently I heard about their mythology from an American tribe. They said they were destroyed by thunderbirds in an epic fight and their bones turned to stone!
@@MechaShadowV2 well fossils really aren't that old.. have you seen that cave that turns things to stone? The Smithsonian hides everything.. said the raving lunatic.
@@MechaShadowV2 well fossils aren't really that old.. have you seen that cave that turns things into stone? You're just eating the shit the Satanic Smithsonian feeds you, Love Christ. I am NOT a raving lunatic.. really I'm not haha.
I'd take it as much more likely that these people saw an actual walrus, either from traveling or a vagrant walrus swimming south and being discovered. That, or just a dream animal.
It's certainly possible, but i still wouldn't discount the dicynodont theory considering the area they live does indeed have well preserved fossils, plus the creature in the picture has a lizard like tail an legs where as the walrus has flippers. Also, the locals don't live near the sea, sure word of mouth could had provided a description for the artist but still. It could also just be a fantastical creature.
11:34 can't wait for people to misinterpreted this and completely ignore the "carbon-climate" connection it shows to say "See? Anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist, it's all part of the Earth's natural cycle!"
If that poofy exoplanet were always facing its star that it's so close to, like the moon does to the earth, it would most definitely have a lopsided atmosphere, hell, I could see it being an egg shaped planet at that point.
My thoughts as well. It depends how they define "East" on a (possibly) rotating planet, or, as you say, a tidally locked one. "East" seems a strange term to use.
People who indulge in this pathetic cynicism and misanthropy either tend to be very afraid of actually calling out the specific things or groups of people dragging civilization down, or they are part of the dead weights themselves. But I guess it's easier to say "ughhh everything is horrible... reset the planet... stop everything.... life is worthless...", than risking of saying the truth and being called a "bigot".
@@Lothnar5070 wokeism is and always has been a completely manufactured issue. The word means absolutely nothing and is just a tool used by people to other and trick people that there is some nebulous threat of change.
Several thoughts; Perhaps a seacow? Do the sand people travel in single file to conceal their numbers? Moo Deng AND Emilia in the same video? It's a can't miss combination! How about a Tee with Emilia on it? It'll sell a gazillion shirts! Charge a dollar more and donate that to charity.
I wonder how many people will read the title without watching the video, and not realize that it's suggesting that the people who made the rock paintings found fossils and the painting was depicting what they thought it might have looked like from looking at the skulls, not that they had some ancient knowledge of what the actual animal looked like or something - I mean, weren't there also theories that medieval people found ceratopsid fossils and interpreted their beaked skulls as gryphons? It's not too far fetched
Dunno why people insist thats a dicynodont specifically, and not another animal we don't know or just got very dismprphed during artistic depiction Looks more like a primitive walrus or some pther random sabertooth animal
Verry enjoyable as always. Regarding Orcas' and all inshore marine life and noise pollution. As an ex Fish Farm worker I am writing to call for the public to protest the fish farming industry's currant high tec "Live stock Protection Measures" as they would call this abomination. They place multiple 'Speakers' over unregulated arias each one playing at 500 dB or in English at more than tree times the volume it takes to kill a Human.(dB is a logarithmic scale so probably a lot more). Physics means sound does not moove between water and air or our costliness would be like standing Infront of the speakers at an AC/DC gig every second of the year. I really can't imagine the hell sound sensitive creatures must be exposed to, or for that matter given how much better sound travels under water how far this disturbance reaches.
The SAN PEOPLE rock !!! They have/had peace accords with their local prides of lions ....wow! Even their kids were safe to walk about at night. ..it was always a mutual accord
The cave art reconstruction that makes it look like the animal has tusks is highly questionable, one of the lines appear outside the head in the original, they are not the same length, and appear more like near by damage in both pattern and color then the animal they are being associated with.
I don't think its tusked, the other art showing it more like caught fish or whiskers makes me think its a heavily stylized leopard seal more than anything.
Why should aliens that managed to travel the stars, and have the ability to read our memory crystals and recreate biological life, attempt to recreate humans in the case that humans have gon extinct? I mean, in this case the aliens could clearly see that humans were incapable of acting responsibly and prevent their self-inflicted extinction.
Hunter gatherer's would have had intimate knowledge of the anatomy of local animals, I'm sure seeing skeletons of animals nobody had even seen in flesh would be fascinating and lead to folklore. To all the Walrus people, what walrus has four legs?
I wouldn't put it past cave people to dig up fossils but that painting could have easily been of a walrus, medieval people would attempt to draw animals they had never seen
Exactly. I guess if they found such a skull, sure they would have wondered what the animal might have looked like. But still it played no role in their daily life and myths are usually ways to explain the world surrounding the people, not some interesting but ultimately irrelevant question. Oral tradition (and the drawings originate from oral traditions) has a limited volume of data to store, so the irrelevant usually gets sorted out.
Being a resident of Cyprus the past few decades I was fortunate enough to meet one of the few paleontologists on the island! I met GC on fb who, very politely invited me to his house to show me his collection of rocks and bones,who just happened to have a complete dwarf elephant skeleton in his hall,absolutely awesome experience!! 😊💛💛💛
3:04 the fish population that is primarily preyed on by the southern resident orcas is also different than the northern residents, and is heavily impacted by dams on the snake and columbia rivers (particularly the four dams on the lower snake river). studies have found that the whales can adapt to ship noise if the fish populations are at healthy levels, and breaching the lower snake river dams would do that. also of note is that the southern resident orcas were more heavily impacted by live-capture in the 60s and 70s (and poaching/“pest control” killing prior to that) than other populations, which wiped out an entire generation of animals and worsened the inbreeding issue.
Good luck recreating humanity from that crystal. A sufficiently advanced theoretical future civilization would have other means if they could use that sparse information presented in that crystal in itself. It will be a pendant or a religious atrifact. (If they are like baseline archaeologists today.) "Strange that these _(insert their name for humans)_ had some basic grasp of genetcs yet they were on such a prinitive level making religious pendants with it." "Nah, Glorgggh, I still think those are religious depictions on top and primitive musical notes on the bottom. See, I can play it. Sounds horrible, but they were dumb and alien." "You mean the first human pair you proposed, the ladder to the gods next to them then astrological signs? Maybe."
The video itself has plenty of integrity considering they passed the dycinodont theory as only a theory, and that there's a possibility based off of the local fossils.
That painting is very clearly some kind of ancient pennepid perhaps an extinct relative of the modern walrus that existed in possible inland waterways rather than marine environments, these people lived fairly long ago it's entirely possible that ancient walrus existed in south africa
That is just as much of a reach as the fossil theory. Speculating that it's an extinct undiscovered walrus relative off of the art requires way more variables and new information than the idea that they found fossils that are known to be nearby and made art from it. Occums Razor and all that. Walruses are extremely localised to the northern seas, the theoretical existence of an inland waterway relative would be unlikely and would require significant evidence to justify as being the cause. I trust the published archeologist to have had a well researched and reasonable take.
@@LibeliumDragonfly yes but that's not really relevant? The point they were making in the article, if you read it, is that it is possible that the people who drew this saw a fossil of a creature that is similar in appearance and that is known to have lived in the area which has been shown to be good for collecting fossils. They're not saying "this is definitely what happened", they're just suggesting an interesting hypothesis. Its also way more likely than what OP is wildly speculating.
Walruses are the only surviving species of the once very wide spread Odobenidae family. So its not certain the drawing (which looks so much like a walrus) isn't of a walrus like creature that may have lived in the area, or that people had a distant folk memory of.
For those who think that it's a stretch that the painting is meant to represent a dicynodon, I would like to remind yall just how bizzare 19th century reconstructions of fossils were like.
Rhis is the rock art i was hearing about that dipicted it? Ive read about this painting before and it was suggested to be some kind of seal or walrus. It looks more like that. Although i suppose they could have found a fossil and based it on that, rather than a living animal.
i dont understand how the orca arracks on boots are still dubbed a mystery. orcas are clearly smart enough to know where the noise is coming from and to elliminate the noise to make hunting easier. case solved.
In that memory crystal there should be encrypted that if humans are extinct it’s better for everyone to leave it that way. Humans aren’t good pets and they are very good at destroying things.
African walrus sounds interesting like they are native to north pole, what if it's convergend evolution and some prehistoric seal specie evolved same tusk as walrus.
Always a joy. Just the right amount of informality and information. Was cynical (pun not intended) about the title, but if it's from observing fossils it could make sense, analogous to Cyclops and ancient elephant skulls.
In Africa we have our own Cryptids that supposedly live in the forests, they are described as dinosaur like and there are some who believe they are actual dinosaurs that somehow survived. I have even spoken to farmers who claim to have seen a dead one. Interesting because most cryptids have roots in mythology and old shaman folklore. (Wendigo, Bigfoot, Yetti, Yowie)
Bit of a speculative idea What if we were to release pygmy hippos and potentially bornean pygmy elephants to try and restore the ecosystem in Cyprus with it's "native" large herbivores? Given that the species actually manage to survive and breed there
I love lystrosaurus specifically, and dicynodonts in general. I think they're ugly cute and apparently so do the San of the South Karoo Basin. Well, maybe not that they're ugly cute.
Looks like a walrus
I was thinking the same...🤔
A walrus would be arguably more interesting, as walruses are only native to the north pole on the other side of the planet.
Yep
@pluemas it's not about what is more interesting, it's about what's plausible. I dont think either are very plausible but the dicynodont idea make slightly more sense. I'd say they just took elements from animals they do know of though- like the tusks of an elephant
I agree with you, see my comments elsewhere in this comment section.
The fossil theory is an interesting if slightly out there hypothesis to consider as an alternative to it being an imagined creature, pending any definitive evidence to prove that it was. I don't think the archeologist was suggesting anything more than that.
An Iron Age Celtic image looks for all the world like a Dalek, it is in fact a rather stylised depiction of a vertical weaving loom. Just because an ancient piece of art looks like something that exists for us, does not mean that it depicts what we think it looks like.
how would I find this Celtic Dalek? google image is shit now
You fools! This can only mean that the Daleks truly exist!
@@ulture I saw it illustrated in a book many years ago. I have not seen it since, I think it was Hallstatt, rather than La Tene in date.
Clearly a case of time travel.
Closest thing Google can show me to a dalek using your description is a peice of jewelry with a bunch of chains with triangles on the bottom. And two animals starring at eachother on the top.
The triangles have a series of indentations made from the back so they look like spheres arranged in three rows.
Rock paintings are always very sus. Sure they can depict real animals, but they can also depict completely made-up monsters. Humans by definition are creative.
Agreed.
Unless they were damn lucky enough to find such remains to create art like this, I find that hypothesis to be quite unlikely.
There are cave paintings so detailed that we can tell which species they were referring to, in addition to sex and age. I don’t think it is a 200+ million year old animal but ancient people weren’t STUPID lol
Its not unlikely someone was breaking interesting looking rocks or happened upon it and decided to draw it
@@prezhenz6969 did I say they were stupid? I said they were creative and that they could have made up fantasy monsters. Just like modern humans love doing.
Yeah and a lot of us are pretty janky artists too, lol.
Whether or not art by definition even had a standard of quality back then...
Oh, boy. The creationists will have a field trip with that indigenous painting.
fortunately they don't imbibe much in the way of 'science media', so they hopefully won't see it.
@@bengreen171 What are you talking about?? It is specfically stated that the drawing may have been inspired by the finding of fossils from 200. m years ago. Not that the socalled Sand People actually saw one a live...Apparently as said there were many fossiled skulls in the rock formations on said island. So all this demonstrates is that the earth is more than 6000 years old & that Noah did not save all kinds of animals. Right??
@@Espinozaize
I think you've mistaken me for a creationist. What you said about the story is all perfectly true of course - but the disappointing truth is that if someone like Ken Hamm or Kent Hovind comes across this story, all they will take away from this is 'people in Africa (it's the San, not Sand, by the way - you're thinking of Star Wars) drew dinosaurs' is exactly that - that they must have seen them alive.
I can see how my comment could be misleading - I perhaps shouldn't have put quote marks round 'science media' like I did - I didn't mean it to seem like 'science media' wasn't a legitimate thing, or that this video wasn't about real science.
@@bengreen171 May the Force be with you
@@Espinozaize
and also with you.
That thing looks nothing like a dicynodont. Walruses also have warts, specially around their necks, as depicted. The tusks are also way more similar to those of a walrus'. Somehow they might have seen one.
The San people have been isolated in South Africa for hundreds of thousands of years. Meanwhile walruses never ocurred in the south hemisphere. The dicynodont hypothesis is more likely
@@Carlos-bz5ooThen it's possibly an undiscovered animal that looks similar
@@Carlos-bz5oo Honestly still more likely than it being an animal thats been extinct for 200 million years though
@@jksjksjsjks How? Dicynodont remains, including SKIN, are revealed through erosion, while there are no south hemisphere walrus relative. Are you stupid?
I'm guessing you posted before actually watching the relevant part of the video. The claim isn't that it's an actual depiction of a dicynodont, but that it's a fantastical creature inspired by the local people finding dicynodont fossils, which occur locally and are often very well preserved. It's definitely a bit of a stretch, but it's not the first time in history something similar has happened. Dinosaur fossils were traditionally called 'dragon bones' in ancient China, or assumed to be the remains of giants in Europe. Skulls of extinct elephants were thought to be the remains of cyclopses in ancient Greece, due to the large holes in their fronts. It's a very speculative theory that's pretty much impossible to prove, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility.
That rock art is much more likely to be based on a snake. The fangs are much more like the teeth of a viper than those of the fossil or a walrus. Some kind of snake man/snake with legs drawn in the act of biting would be my bet. The other thing to do is ask some of the San themselves.
This was my thought as well, snakes with legs are a common concept in mythology, and a very easy concept to come up with. Lots of myths explain how the snake lost its legs.
As for asking the San, I expect that's been done already, but if the painting is from the 19th century or older it's likely that San today don't know what inspired the piece.
I didn't think of it but yeah, a snake with legs seems like something far more likely based upon the San's surroundings than the reconstruction of a fossilised skull they found. Not that I don't think they might have wondered what an animal laving behind such a skull would have looked like, but it just wouldn't have played a role in their myths being so distant from their daily life.
I'm really hoping the digital time capsule includes Nyan Cat.
Future archeologists would lose their minds. "It must be a REAL animal!!!"
@@thinkbolt Hours of video proof that Nyan cat is real
Did a dubble take, as I somehow I read "nude cat"...
How can it “the nyan cat mistery: real animal or ancient humana just ate rainbow cats with bread? Tonight in history channel”
@@bodan1196 Maybe you spent too much time on the internet?
I think the painting is more likely to be a depiction of a extinct sabertoothed cat of some kind more than a dicynodont
it could even be an extinct animal we havent discovered yet
Sabertoothed cats were endemic to North America. An African hominid wouldn't have seen one.
so where are those supposed sabreteeth. the whole dumb story is based on the assumption that these would be there. But when one looks closely at the photos of the actual cave painting, there is bluish colour everywhere around. It is an artifact of either a later or earlier painting that erosion deleted mostly or mineral formation.
.. I could draw a cat on a rock .. its a walrus ...
@@tanmaz8006there aren’t walruses in South Africa, definitely not a walrus
I’m just gonna assume an anomaly opened, a Dicynodont came through, and the indigenous peoples saw it & painted it because its a weird looking animal.
Next on ITV: Primeval: South Africa
I would watch that. Primeval was a good part of my childhood.
@@ericlipton7640
Well no, this kind of thing was a plot point in Series 3
@@duneydan7993
Well this was a plot point in Series 3
You just cracked it, my man.
Then San Witchers were created who hunted all temporally displaced species to extinction.
I can't wait for professional young-Earthers to use the dicynodont paintings as "proof" that all animals lived together before the Flood... except I doubt any of them know what a dicynodont is.
Oh you just know it, I give it a month or two before that shit appears on a Miniminuteman short.
I just know that 10 years from now creationists will STILL use it as a point and we are all going to be like "really ? The dicynodont thing in the year of our lord 2077 ?"
@@NeilDegrasseTysonWithAKatana Hell evolution has been proven time and time again to the point that evolution has become and inviolable law of life, as concrete as gravity and thermodynamics, but they'll still say they haven't seen a mosquito turn into a donkey and somehow that proves their theory. Like yeah mfer I haven't seen no hill turn into a mountain either but that doesn't mean I deny fucking plate tectonics.
@@dud3655 you seem (rigthfully) done with their bullshit 😭🙏
@@NeilDegrasseTysonWithAKatana I am, they're the kind of people that never accept when they are wrong, it just gets tiring after a while and it's a battle not worth fighting, whenever you throw faith into the mix that stuff thickens up like plaster 😔
I think the "horned serpent" of the natives (of many different places) could definitely be based on dinosaur fossils. Everything else is usually a regular-shaped animal and then they'll have one that's just like this which always interested me and then recently I heard about their mythology from an American tribe. They said they were destroyed by thunderbirds in an epic fight and their bones turned to stone!
Since you specified fossil, I will agree and give you a thumbs up
@@MechaShadowV2 well fossils really aren't that old.. have you seen that cave that turns things to stone? The Smithsonian hides everything.. said the raving lunatic.
@@MechaShadowV2 well fossils aren't really that old.. have you seen that cave that turns things into stone? You're just eating the shit the Satanic Smithsonian feeds you, Love Christ. I am NOT a raving lunatic.. really I'm not haha.
I'd take it as much more likely that these people saw an actual walrus, either from traveling or a vagrant walrus swimming south and being discovered. That, or just a dream animal.
Whats the likelyhood of a far travelling walrus with the global tempretures lower then, seen as theyve made it to spain in the modern day
It's certainly possible, but i still wouldn't discount the dicynodont theory considering the area they live does indeed have well preserved fossils, plus the creature in the picture has a lizard like tail an legs where as the walrus has flippers. Also, the locals don't live near the sea, sure word of mouth could had provided a description for the artist but still. It could also just be a fantastical creature.
She enunciates so well.
11:34 can't wait for people to misinterpreted this and completely ignore the "carbon-climate" connection it shows to say "See? Anthropogenic climate change doesn't exist, it's all part of the Earth's natural cycle!"
Cycle* not cicle...
@@MaoRatto alright, fixed it
@@konnanina It's mandatory due to English uses etymology instead of any reasonable rules. xD I am guessing it doesn't use y in your native tongue?
@@MaoRatto I knew, just forgot/mistyped.
My native tongue isn't English at all (Greek) lol
that is anything except a dicynodont
Why would anyone want to recreate humanity with our history?
I'll never forgive Humans for causing the extinction of Dwarf Elephants
If that poofy exoplanet were always facing its star that it's so close to, like the moon does to the earth, it would most definitely have a lopsided atmosphere, hell, I could see it being an egg shaped planet at that point.
My thoughts as well. It depends how they define "East" on a (possibly) rotating planet, or, as you say, a tidally locked one. "East" seems a strange term to use.
A civilization advanced enough to recreate human civilization as it is today would be smart enough not to.
Well the woke lot and politicians would obviously be avoided.
People who indulge in this pathetic cynicism and misanthropy either tend to be very afraid of actually calling out the specific things or groups of people dragging civilization down, or they are part of the dead weights themselves. But I guess it's easier to say "ughhh everything is horrible... reset the planet... stop everything.... life is worthless...", than risking of saying the truth and being called a "bigot".
@@Lothnar5070 wokeism is and always has been a completely manufactured issue. The word means absolutely nothing and is just a tool used by people to other and trick people that there is some nebulous threat of change.
Why?.... Why would such a civilization care?
Or just for research
"She's so gorgeous, I love her" (the hippo ofc ;) )
Several thoughts;
Perhaps a seacow?
Do the sand people travel in single file to conceal their numbers?
Moo Deng AND Emilia in the same video? It's a can't miss combination!
How about a Tee with Emilia on it? It'll sell a gazillion shirts! Charge a dollar more and donate that to charity.
I wonder how many people will read the title without watching the video, and not realize that it's suggesting that the people who made the rock paintings found fossils and the painting was depicting what they thought it might have looked like from looking at the skulls, not that they had some ancient knowledge of what the actual animal looked like or something - I mean, weren't there also theories that medieval people found ceratopsid fossils and interpreted their beaked skulls as gryphons? It's not too far fetched
Dunno why people insist thats a dicynodont specifically, and not another animal we don't know or just got very dismprphed during artistic depiction
Looks more like a primitive walrus or some pther random sabertooth animal
The Powerpuff Girls as planets
666k followers, ooh
It looks like a very stylized depiction of a Sabertooth cat
Verry enjoyable as always.
Regarding Orcas' and all inshore marine life and noise pollution.
As an ex Fish Farm worker I am writing to call for the public to protest the fish farming industry's currant high tec "Live stock Protection Measures" as they would call this abomination.
They place multiple 'Speakers' over unregulated arias each one playing at 500 dB or in English at more than tree times the volume it takes to kill a Human.(dB is a logarithmic scale so probably a lot more).
Physics means sound does not moove between water and air or our costliness would be like standing Infront of the speakers at an AC/DC gig every second of the year.
I really can't imagine the hell sound sensitive creatures must be exposed to, or for that matter given how much better sound travels under water how far this disturbance reaches.
The SAN PEOPLE rock !!!
They have/had peace accords with their local prides of lions ....wow!
Even their kids were safe to walk about at night. ..it was always a mutual accord
The cave art reconstruction that makes it look like the animal has tusks is highly questionable, one of the lines appear outside the head in the original, they are not the same length, and appear more like near by damage in both pattern and color then the animal they are being associated with.
I don't think its tusked, the other art showing it more like caught fish or whiskers makes me think its a heavily stylized leopard seal more than anything.
Could also be a stylized monitor lizard with prey on the mouth
Why should aliens that managed to travel the stars, and have the ability to read our memory crystals and recreate biological life, attempt to recreate humans in the case that humans have gon extinct? I mean, in this case the aliens could clearly see that humans were incapable of acting responsibly and prevent their self-inflicted extinction.
Hunter gatherer's would have had intimate knowledge of the anatomy of local animals, I'm sure seeing skeletons of animals nobody had even seen in flesh would be fascinating and lead to folklore.
To all the Walrus people, what walrus has four legs?
All walruses have four legs.
@@bonniemob65 Four legs and a tail??
@@bonniemob65well yes, but he meant land based legs, walrus legs are flippers and the art doesn't seem very flipper like. Plus there's the long tail.
I wouldn't put it past cave people to dig up fossils but that painting could have easily been of a walrus, medieval people would attempt to draw animals they had never seen
Exactly. I guess if they found such a skull, sure they would have wondered what the animal might have looked like. But still it played no role in their daily life and myths are usually ways to explain the world surrounding the people, not some interesting but ultimately irrelevant question. Oral tradition (and the drawings originate from oral traditions) has a limited volume of data to store, so the irrelevant usually gets sorted out.
9:48 is that a picture of Moo Deng?
Well the creationists are going to go nuts over this one.
This headline is going to set off the pseudoscientists. A tactical error?
Looks like a walrus.
in South Africa?
Wait, how did they know it was a bridge? The pictures don't make it look like it couldn't be a natural formation.
Why should humanity be recreated, we are bad for the planet and ourselves
We need more Moo Deng cameos
I want to see them in a Jurassic world movie, they could play a really good role, people will like them more than Chris Pratt and the other ones too.
look, i'll click on a Ben G. Thomas video even without a sensational title
is it April 1st or what?
Being a resident of Cyprus the past few decades I was fortunate enough to meet one of the few paleontologists on the island!
I met GC on fb who, very politely invited me to his house to show me his collection of rocks and bones,who just happened to have a complete dwarf elephant skeleton in his hall,absolutely awesome experience!! 😊💛💛💛
Looks more like a walrus to me
Doesn't look ANYTHING like what you suggest. Looks like a walrus to me
3:04 the fish population that is primarily preyed on by the southern resident orcas is also different than the northern residents, and is heavily impacted by dams on the snake and columbia rivers (particularly the four dams on the lower snake river). studies have found that the whales can adapt to ship noise if the fish populations are at healthy levels, and breaching the lower snake river dams would do that.
also of note is that the southern resident orcas were more heavily impacted by live-capture in the 60s and 70s (and poaching/“pest control” killing prior to that) than other populations, which wiped out an entire generation of animals and worsened the inbreeding issue.
Strange blob drawn on a cave wall? It must be a secret extinct monster!
I love pachycephalosaurs
Good luck recreating humanity from that crystal. A sufficiently advanced theoretical future civilization would have other means if they could use that sparse information presented in that crystal in itself.
It will be a pendant or a religious atrifact. (If they are like baseline archaeologists today.)
"Strange that these _(insert their name for humans)_ had some basic grasp of genetcs yet they were on such a prinitive level making religious pendants with it."
"Nah, Glorgggh, I still think those are religious depictions on top and primitive musical notes on the bottom. See, I can play it. Sounds horrible, but they were dumb and alien."
"You mean the first human pair you proposed, the ladder to the gods next to them then astrological signs? Maybe."
Title and thumbnail seems like pseudo archeology. Puts into question the rest of this videos integrity, right off the bat.
The video itself has plenty of integrity considering they passed the dycinodont theory as only a theory, and that there's a possibility based off of the local fossils.
How long before Creationists are using this cave-painting to argue for the co-existence of humans and dicynodonts ?
Imagine all the fossil that our ancestors could have seen but were destroyed or lost to time like how the tarbo skin impressions was lost
That painting is very clearly some kind of ancient pennepid perhaps an extinct relative of the modern walrus that existed in possible inland waterways rather than marine environments, these people lived fairly long ago it's entirely possible that ancient walrus existed in south africa
That is just as much of a reach as the fossil theory. Speculating that it's an extinct undiscovered walrus relative off of the art requires way more variables and new information than the idea that they found fossils that are known to be nearby and made art from it. Occums Razor and all that.
Walruses are extremely localised to the northern seas, the theoretical existence of an inland waterway relative would be unlikely and would require significant evidence to justify as being the cause.
I trust the published archeologist to have had a well researched and reasonable take.
@@pluemasI like to think it's a mustachioed seal
@@pluemas I mean, 2 million years and 200 million years are two completely different idea
@@LibeliumDragonfly yes but that's not really relevant? The point they were making in the article, if you read it, is that it is possible that the people who drew this saw a fossil of a creature that is similar in appearance and that is known to have lived in the area which has been shown to be good for collecting fossils. They're not saying "this is definitely what happened", they're just suggesting an interesting hypothesis.
Its also way more likely than what OP is wildly speculating.
@@LibeliumDragonflyEither way it involves people finding fossil skulls and drawing a creature for it to belong to
Walruses are the only surviving species of the once very wide spread Odobenidae family. So its not certain the drawing (which looks so much like a walrus) isn't of a walrus like creature that may have lived in the area, or that people had a distant folk memory of.
For those who think that it's a stretch that the painting is meant to represent a dicynodon, I would like to remind yall just how bizzare 19th century reconstructions of fossils were like.
Rhis is the rock art i was hearing about that dipicted it? Ive read about this painting before and it was suggested to be some kind of seal or walrus. It looks more like that. Although i suppose they could have found a fossil and based it on that, rather than a living animal.
7 days of fun!🎉
I wonder if the DNA record also includes a copy of mitochondrial DNA, would be hard to make a human without knowing about those.
9:25.... "Sann people" or "Sand people"??
I listened to that 3 times and I am not sure what I heard, but subtitles say "Sand"....
Thumbnail looks like a walrus in any mundane children’s book
i dont understand how the orca arracks on boots are still dubbed a mystery. orcas are clearly smart enough to know where the noise is coming from and to elliminate the noise to make hunting easier. case solved.
If they mandated toroidal propellers, they noise level could be reduced and fuel consumption would be reduced.
I would love paleozoic depictions of paleeozoic animals be found - made by dinosaur-people! 😃
Never heard of an animal called Stegaceros or Stegazaros before. Please do a video on them. Thank you 🙏
BATTLE STATIONS! BATTLE STATIONS! BATTEN DOWN THE HATCHES!
YOUNG-EARTH CREATIONISTS INCOMING!!
In that memory crystal there should be encrypted that if humans are extinct it’s better for everyone to leave it that way. Humans aren’t good pets and they are very good at destroying things.
Ive only just come back to this channel after a couple of years whats happened to ben he's changed a bit
I love this so much, these 7DOS videos always bring me joy
Get a girlfriend that looks at you, like Emilia looks at Moo Deng...
Recreate humanity? Why in the hell would any intelligent lifeform want to do that!?
Keep pushing that co2 propaganda...your bills need to be paid
I recently did an article on that: "The Dingonek is a Dicynodont!"
That walrus looks nothing like Dicyodont.
that rock painting looks more like the cryptid dingonek.
Its an extinct manatee.
The one that didn't make it to melancholy hill.
Recreating humanity? Sounds like a mistake to me
The sand people will be back, and in greater numbers
That painting looks like an elephant drawn by a child
I was having such a bad day until now 🥰
Looks like a big lizard. Like a rock monitor.
African walrus sounds interesting like they are native to north pole, what if it's convergend evolution and some prehistoric seal specie evolved same tusk as walrus.
I think it’s obviously a walrus
1:23 this reminds me of subnautica
What about Labocania?
0:25 is that Joe Brennan?
Something about that cave with all human data reminds me of pchycohistory
So where's the Second Foundation?
Always a joy. Just the right amount of informality and information. Was cynical (pun not intended) about the title, but if it's from observing fossils it could make sense, analogous to Cyclops and ancient elephant skulls.
I thought Earth was the strange planet.
Cool
Omg Ben congrats on the transition
CHEETO PLANET CHEETO PLANET!
I know it's way of topic, but who is the precenter/host..?? She memorizes me, every time I see her face, and hear her voice on this channel...
Read the Description
@@AndrewTBP Thanks mate, I found what I was looking for...
Thats a walrus.
In Africa we have our own Cryptids that supposedly live in the forests, they are described as dinosaur like and there are some who believe they are actual dinosaurs that somehow survived. I have even spoken to farmers who claim to have seen a dead one. Interesting because most cryptids have roots in mythology and old shaman folklore. (Wendigo, Bigfoot, Yetti, Yowie)
thats clearly a walrus.
Nice smile Miss Evans
666k special when
Bit of a speculative idea
What if we were to release pygmy hippos and potentially bornean pygmy elephants to try and restore the ecosystem in Cyprus with it's "native" large herbivores?
Given that the species actually manage to survive and breed there
Unexpected Moo deng
I love lystrosaurus specifically, and dicynodonts in general. I think they're ugly cute and apparently so do the San of the South Karoo Basin. Well, maybe not that they're ugly cute.
I would assume part of the reason for the asymmetry in WASP 107B's atmosphere is that the planet is tidally locked.