How American Fishermen Lost The Right To Fish
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- A few decades ago, the federal government introduced a misguided, market-based system to conserve our oceans. Now, thousands of small fishermen are going out of business while a lucky few are striking it rich.
When we investigated, police raided our footage.
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Anytime a rich person states that they can self-regulate a troubled aspect of industry, I call BS.
NAILED IT!!
Yeah...a lot of that goes on in the US.
Pharmaceutical companies comes to mind
If you had a bet on it, I don't think you would ever lose.
Oh but didn't notice that "the good guys" have television shows? Didn't you notice that "the really good guys" run foundations?
@@arcanondrum6543you mean they run “tax havens” 😂
Between you and every thing you need in life there is a man who thinks he deserves to get rich off of you
What a great line. Kinda sums everything up right there
That wouldn't be capitalism...what would be a proper name for it?
(Just asking)
@@JusticeAlways you're an MM2?? Nuclear or conventional? what ship? Active??
@@JusticeAlways I guess for me I don't mind the idea of wealth per se, I suppose it's human nature that some people will be very attached to the idea of making money, some people are in love with money, I don't think that's healthy but that is certainly part of our reality, but if everything is profited to the max, people lose.
Removing the excessive profit motive on many things is important.
So at a minimum expanding the not-for-profit sector is vital.
That's where I start. Providing a public alternative to every need and some wants is what I want to see.
@@JusticeAlwayscapitalism meaning has become capitalizing on others at their expense so anything anyone can get away with has become capitalism it's what happens when it's not controlled and runs rampant. It could be controlled by providing business loans by the government and limiting business size but that hasn't happened
Any time lobbyists get involved, the little guy is going to get screwed.
And any time two people meet to discuss business, it ends in a conspiracy against the public
Not for profit, lobby groups. Uncle Bill’s salary $500 k , Aunt Kitty $$400k but we are Not For Profit doing good for the world.
facts
Unless they are pro 2A lobbyists
Rmiller
It’s a pretty screwed up world where you actually need 2a lobbying. In a perfect rational world rights protected by the constitution would be like protected haha.
Just look at the patriot act and all the constitutional rights that were basically destroyed because ya know goat terrorists mean we must destroy American rights to save a few American lives meanwhile strengthening the federal government making it much much more dangerous than previously mentioned goat terrorist.
It’s like some say oh Putin is so dangerous. It’s like no. Biden with dementia, or congress etc is much much more dangerous to me because they literally run the country I’m in.
The "police" weren't there for the fish. They were there to take the footage of your documentary. "We're taking copies of all your footage, because it could potentially show illegal conduct." After they found no evidence while searching through everything that would indicate any "illegal conduct" occurred. They wanted to know what you were saying and showing on that footage. This is why many people are distrustful of police. When the bankers/corporations own literally everything, and they write all the laws that keep the poor poor and the wealthy more wealthy, it is the police that show up to enforce those laws. Even when they explicitly violate the Constitution.
Dude , so succinct , so well stated
except freedom of the press stopped them I betcha
An articulatable suspicion of a crime must be observed first before even considered confiscating the footage.
It's always the same police that we try to defend, who 'just follow orders' to then put the boot down on us whenever real citizens stand up for their rights.
How do you know his competition wasn't making up false allegations to get him in trouble?
"If you're a law abiding fisherman you want to see that"
Oh yeah, I never considered how it's a *good* thing to get randomly held up by five armed guys on my way to drop off a paycheck.
Oh wow now you understand how every American feels ever
@bobdole6691 I get the purpose of the audit and use to do commercial fishing on Lake Michigan so am familiar with those audits in general. I guess my question is why were the cops treating them like criminals instantly, my audits have been by the DNR or USCG they are generally friendly people (even if they gave ya a ticket) who are trying to make sure people arnt poaching and boats are properly equipped. These cops were dicks to people doing nothing wrong.
Cops handling that fish like if they were bricks of cocaine.
Red cocaine
FISH SCALE 😂😂😂😂
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No your right and that’s the point and the problem
The best part about your channel is the wide spectrum of shallowing workers rights, that most people would never know about. Keep up the good work.
Agree
I just recently started watching their videos and this same thought crossed my mind.
Nobody with power cares yet, but they're still doing a good job.
I’m Hispanic female boat owner operator that has been struggling to make a living in this industry for more than 30 years.
WE the fishermen paid these “SEA LORDS” 80% of our hard work.
So thankful that you put these IFQ program in the loop.
WE NEED HELP .
Same thing with the farmers and artists, government doesn't care, you need to unionize somehow and sue these ghouls
Really had to add the race part, didn't ya's???? Couldn't have said I'm a female boat owner who's struggling right now. Sayin, you're a "female Hispanic boat owner" just makes you bad cause no one cares about what race you are.
@@Gamingpandacatunions are just job landlords, they lost all of their effectiveness long ago and are just another non-working group of people (union reps, etc) living off of the labor of actual workers (union members).
Ive been in several over the last 20 years and was always treated worse in union shops than non-union shops
I’m a meat cutter. Our union does not work for us anymore. They’re paid for by the companies.
Damn. That makes indescribably 😢! Lord I didn't know any of this!
But I can tell you just from simply trying to go catch a fish or a crab, they show up. They're not nice. They rummage through everything and make you feel like a criminal. They disturbed your peace. When they are done with you you feel like you have been violated and that there's nothing you can do about it. So yeah it shows up at the docks, on the banks, and a kayak, in a boat. I knew there was something bigger going on I just had no idea!
I’ve seen it firsthand as a Dockside Monitor, the bigger the boat, the less scrutiny they faced.
The small boat fishers were under a microscope while the large corporate vessels basically self policed.
Nope I blame the men who take an oath to the consitution and then enforce this bs for a paycheck
We know how this works. The little guy gets "audited" by people with guns, and the big guys go out drinking with the auditors, who then give them the "courtesy" of an advance phone call before any audit, just to make sure they don't find anything when they get there.
I actually didn't know about this at all, very informative video, utterly disgusting people can just somehow marketize the right to fish and act like parasites to people who actually want to do so
Like all of corporate America? One more industry privatized then you get to use others. Privatized utilities chap my butt too. Alaskan girl here watching it play big time in our fishing industry. Look at farming tho, how long ago did the share cropping scam reign?
Just part of our march back into feudalism.
@@mamatrain100 Glad you see the truth love, most are blindsided. Cheers from Ohio.
That's neoliberalism. That's all it is.
i was just watching a video about land value taxes, kinda crazy there are ocean landlords too
Privatized fishing licenses? Every week I learn something as stupid as it is horrifying.
Most states rightly recognize hunting, fishing, and trapping as constitutional rights, but then charge a fee for those 'rights' (like with gun permits too). And apparently some are going a step further still by privatizing the regulation of those rights.
In Michigan, Granholm authorized the licensing of water pumping from the great lakes. Nestle paid $250 for their license then promptly lobbied to have it privatized, specifically so no one else could pump water out.
i have to say as a constitutionalist, if they can take away your "right" you never had that "right"
That's why ppl gotta be aware of where their "rights" cone from. These are at best, privileges
@@tredwayjack5189fishing is a privilege, especially commercial fishing. We ended commercial hunting a century ago.
You lose all of the rights you refuse to defend.
@@Steve-ev6vxah yes, working to provide for your self is a privilege
Wonder how many people considered it a privilege 500 years ago
@@minotaurmikeftwmike7712 I am just saying how the US government views it, not how it should be. You can't do it without a license.
I've seen this same scheme destroy the fleets of Down East North Carolina. And send fishing families to the poor house, snd inland looking for work. 6th and 7th generation fishermen NOT fishing because they cant afford to.
As a child in the 80s, the fleet out of Marshallburg, Harker's Island, Beaufort Morehead 4 other areas were dwindling. The old timers talked about the good old days.
There's no fleet out of Marshallburg now. The fleet out of Harker's Island is tiny. All the houses Down East are closed. The Canneries have been closed a LONG while.
Freaking *sealords* of all things... like landlords weren't enough...
God tell me about it. Will the feudalism never end???? Good god...
Can't even escape the landlords by jumping into the ocean now
Wailords ftw
More like PIRATES
I thought the water tribe was the chill ones.
This just in, Oil lobyists have told us that selling the atmosphere to big oil is the best way to prevent global warming.
US Gov: We’re gonna introduce a conservation effort.
Neat!
US Gov: …and privatize it.
YOU FOOLS!
BULL$HIT
yep, privatization ruins everything.
Not to make light of the situation, but when I read this, I imagined your lines in Gilbert Gottfried's voice, particularly of him on Hollywood Squares.
Strange how unchecked capitalism always seems to ruin everything
Exactly!
This is disgusting. Nobody should have to pay a high fee just to access fishing grounds!!!
Some limitation has to happen or all the snapper disappear, as they were rapidly disappearing when this system was instituted. What would you do?
@@TrogdorBurnin8or were they truly at risk of being overfished??
Okay for sake of argument let's presume they were. In that case then I would try to make it as fair as possible and give everyone a maximum individual quota that's equal for everyone. Large commercial trawlers should also be limited or banned if stock is believed to be at risk.
Certainly there shouldn't be any fees just to access the water though. They already pay their fee for their commercial fishing license so why isn't that enough?
Look at the graph in the video man. They were in catastrophic decline! We were more than a decade beyond maximum harvest and into exponential decay as the last fish died off. Arguably we should still ban fishing of these species entirely until they can make a recovery. You can limit catch in all sorta of ways; I prefer auctioning off catch permits annually, but in this case we've enlisted the private sector to do that. The way we did it in the 90's was to push people to catch as much as possible in an ever-shrinking number of days, and this didn't work very well and was extremely dangerous. The fee for the commercial fishing license right now is trivial compared to the price necessary to reduce harvest.
There are no fees to "access the water". There are fees to catch Red Snapper (in the sense that a private entity holds the rights and will sell/loan them to you), and this is the enforcement mechanism to ensure that those fees were paid (that you have bought rights to catch those fish).@@YourCapyPal_bigupsfor3DPipes
I and every citizen should have the same identical "rights / ownership" don't you think? That slices the parcels to very tiny portions...and make it impossible for just a few to gain control.
(Just my thoughts)
The lack of monopoly concerns would be a feature of an annual government auction. I don't see how the rights to 0.02 pounds of Red Snapper per US resident per year would be practical to distribute.@@JusticeAlways
I had a CO watch me from a half mile away while I fished my private pond on my private property. I keep the 10-12 inch bass and clean them. He watched for a couple hours while I filled a cooler full of little bass. Left the cooler on ice in the barn and left my farm. He pulled me over a mile down the road demanding to search my vehicle… he no longer works for the state.
If you give them another year they will grow another four inches.
@@shyman9023 I don’t want them getting big in this pond. It’s full of massive red ear and channel cats. It also has a few bass over 5 lb. Bunch around 3lb. We don’t keep them when they get that big.
@@buckfutter99 Just making a remark.
@@shyman9023 I’m not poking fun or angry. I’m just passing along my setup. It it a food pond. I’ve always got catfish and sunfish in the freezer. Haven’t bought any type of meat from a store in a long time.
I don’t know the regs in the gulf. But my big issue brought up in the story is the law enforcement aspect. I live in Alaska. I was born here. 50+ years.
Having armed agents of the state on the highways, airways, waterways, and in the forest has sucked the joy out of living here. I don’t hunt or fish anymore than I have too any more. I have friends share their catch more each year. There is an industry of law enforcement that are trying to prove their worth to a system. If I hear the word compliant it make my blood boil. Having an armed enforcer examining your boat and catch looking for anything they can enforce sucks the joy out of fishing. Sport fishing and hunting is in decline. It’s becoming an industry for tourism. The lodges are left alone for the most part because as a business they have too much on the line to not be compliant. The officers destroy what makes sport fishing fun by treating you like a potential criminal for trying to enjoy an afternoon of fishing.
The less wrong doing they find, the harder they look. The citizen can’t win.
Meanwhile, our sport catch is so limited that we can’t come out ahead of the cost to fish. And whole species are closed that used to be abundant. Factory open sea fishing is where the rape of the sea is occurring. It’s not my desire to put food on my table that is depleting the stocks.
We have more law enforcement here for fish, feathers, fur, trees, and the long list of natural resources than we have for people on people crimes.
Even the coast guard that has been here my whole life has become a law enforcement machine. They used to care take the navigation aids and do rescue. Now the pull me over to inspect my boat for safety violations. Further undermining my enjoyment of the sea. When Covid hit. There were less boats to inspect. So it got even worse.
You get the picture. Take their guns. They would be nicer people. I fail to see why they need bullet proof vests and guns and hand cuffs. I know of no arrests ever made in the past 20 years. Much disgust for this industry.
You know how much interaction I have with regular law enforcement? None! If I have a tail light out I understand why I am pulled over. It’s not the same on the water. They just pull you over to inspect you. Or approach you while you are trying to manage taking your boat out of the water or tie up at the dock.
They make damn good money doing this to us. Much disgust for these people
Going out fishing used to be my needed pressure relief valve, it used to be eliminating stress, the water, oceans and forest were places where one could feel free. I always go by laws and regulations but anyone can forget a piece of safety equipment you landed the last time to have it replaced and forgot. A fire extinguisher in perfect working order that has an expired date. I now find going at sea very stressful, add to this the perverts' with their youtube channels filming you launching and retrieving by yourself. Going on my boat was the only place where I would be 100% responsible for anything happening being good or bad with no one interference. The place where I would 100% feel alive.
@@denislaouenan5553 America is a police state.
Listening to the cop illegally state nonexistent laws that he is going to seize pictures and videos without a warrant or exigent circumstances shows where the real criminality is. Some copshop lawyer told him he could do it so he believes he can and threatens to do it in an intimidation tactic. If anyone deserves to be in prison it's that tyrant.
They generally dont know the laws they uphold, this shouldn't be that surprising lol.
That's why apps that upload video in real time to the cloud are important. They can seize and 'accidentally' erase all they want, you or your lawyer will still be able to access it.
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Actually no they can seize cameras, in this situation, the officer explains if they find an illegal catch they can seize the cameras because they likely recorded the catch making it evidence to a crime. One of the exception to warrants if the officer has concerns that evidence can be destroyed. Hence it it completely legal to seize the cameras IF they find an illegal catch however I am not sure if they need a warrant to go through the cameras as I know they if an officer seize a car and finds a locked box a warrant needs to issued to go through the box even if they had a warrant to search the car.
@Heavenly_Fury absolutely not. They have no idea if anything was caught on camera or not. They wanted to illegally seize the camera.In hopes that there was evidence that can later be used to prosecute. They needed a warrant at this point. Hunches and hope alone do not allow you to seize anything. And no judge would allow warren to be issued based on the evidence in this video.
This industry has been so corrupt for so long. Your average Joe can barely bring any decent fish home anymore due to strict regulations, but the commercial guys can keep an unbelievable amount and have a smaller size limit. Most don't even fish with a rod, they drag nets that kill everything that gets caught in them. We call them draggers.
The problem isn’t strict regulations, but HOW it’s done!
It’s possible to have a catch-share system that give a guy like this a decent living!
There’s also ways to use nets that doesn’t destroy seabeds - and the sizes of holes in the nets can help decrease unwanted bicatch!
No one uses drag nets for red snapper...... IT'S ILLEGAL.
Try again, but next time try harder
@@willbass2869you would genuinely be shocked with what people get away with on the open seas (particularly in The Gulf)
It’s like The Wild West on the ocean.
@@willbass2869illegal is negotiable. Just not for us.
@@Lylaris_or_GarukThis right here. Small fry fishers get policed to hell, but Big Business of any type always have ways to skirt the law
Solution is to disallow the leasing of fishing rights. Meaning those sitting at the desk will make nothing
People want to eat fish though.
I say let the government do the leasing instead and use the revenue to fund conservation efforts
correct.
That would only force them to set up an actual company with workers with a minimum-wage fishing it for them. Meaning they still get to sit in their share, but earn even more money than before (because now they get all the fish profits themselves for only the cost of hiring some ppl and buying some boats). Who cares about high turnover-rates? They can just hire new ppl, and if that takes some time it doesn't matter as it seems those shares are still small enough that even one guy can fish his entire quota of 2% with a single boat. So there is no rush.
Hell, even if they don't finish their quota, there's no punishment to the share-holder besides some lost possible profit - and like new york real estate standing empty for years it is still better for them to artificially inflate prices by keeping the shares themselves, than to maximize their profit in the short term.
_Maybe_ your idea would work if there was a fine for _vastly_ under-utilizing the quota without good reason (surely will exists good reasons at times, so best to have that safeguard. but any such excuse would be investigated and vetted), but even then all that leads to is slightly higher wages for the employees if they get off their asses and make a union so they can go on strike. Still keeps the shares with the ones who already have them, because selling them is stupid.
@@feha92a year on year location would go some way to fixing that. If you don't fulfill your quota one year, you lose that portion the next year.
Bias new and redistributed allocations to new entities.
If companies treat thier employees poorly, they will under perform.
Big snag is situations where a small outfit (single boat) suffers breakdowns or illness.
@@feha92 nonody is going to fish for minimum wage and it would be pretty illegal and not hold up in court. Hazard pay and all.
They sold our fishing rights to the Chinese that is what happened
It's never going to change the rich keep getting richer while the poor keep hitting poverty
The other day I saw lobster north of $60 a pound in the cheap grocery store where it was well less than $20 this time two years ago. I hadn't ever thought of it as an actual economic bubble until this very moment but it's really hitting home that the market is reflecting both the depletion and monopolization. When that happened in the fur market people went to wearing silk, wool and felt over the course of just a few years.
This is the crucial flaw of hyper-capitalistic policy. When the long term debt cycle nears its end, the bubbles become so large they suffocate. We did away with all the regulation over the previous decades as they seemed the logical solution to stopping other, smaller bubbles from bursting. We kick the can down the road for generations, until the bubbles burst. Capitalism makes us wealthy and gives us the quality of life we have today, but this is what happens when the concept is not managed well. When pragmatism is overshadowed by greed and reductive ideas like 'freedom' and 'liberty' which can be interpreted in oh so many convenient ways.
What kind of super rare lobster is that? I can still get it under $10 here in Houston, TX @ HEB.
I know a guy who catches seafood on a commercial license in Florida. Fish prices skyrocketed in the last couple years. His salary: stayed exactly the same. It’s a full blown scam. They literally just steal profits from the people who actually do the work.
You were on the right path until you called liberty and freedom "reductive."
Corporations don't deserve the same levels of freedom as individuals... don't confuse personal liberty with corporate overreach.
Yep, it's a meeting of corporate and government power. ......fascism......and its coming from The Left as was predicted in the 1960s when people knew that fascism is leftist totalitarianism. Just look up MalcolmX & the Black Panthers and who they said were the fascists
" we want to protect our profits....i mean oceans...."
Job that has gotten worse: education. As a science teacher I can tell you horror stories from when I started in 1997 until now.
Where do you teach ?
I blame the unions.
As someone who fishes, not as career but just to have fun and maybe catch some dinner, I do NOT like a bunch of law enforcement hanging around and pestering me, I don’t do anything illegal, but law enforcement being able to just “audit” me and my stuff at any time, is all they have to do to make fishing not worth doing anymore for me, because fishing is supposed to be a peaceful escape and nothing pisses me off more than law enforcement being at every lake in my area. The little guy loses every way you turn now days, you can’t do anything without all kinds of licenses, permits, and within certain parameters set by the state and it has turned hunting and fishing into pay to play and it’s no longer a cheaper option than the supermarket. Not even saying it’s law enforcement’s fault, I moreso blame people who don’t know how to behave and ruin everyone else’s freedoms.
I sold my boat because of this. I could fish out of swansboro without being pulled over sometime by three different agencies and treated like a criminal. Spent a ton of money to come from Raleigh to fish and I could keep one redfish. They shutdown flounder so only commercial fisherman could catch them. Now recreational fisherman don’t feel sorry for the commercial guys who just kill everything.
And I’ve seen these same cops walk away from a group of Latinos, Asians with buckets full of illegal fish.
@@WebedunnI’m going to call cap on that, when I see the game warden pull up they get everyone they can. I don’t see them letting anyone go.
@@marcuslarwa9098 my work partner told me why they let them go. It’s a waste of time. They give them fake names and cry, “I not know what I do!” It’s a waste of paperwork cuz they’re not allowed to pressure them cuz their libtard bosses will reprimand them for going after the poor immigrants.🙄
I’ve literally had DNR walk right past a family of 6-7 and come right over to me and my wife and I always catch and release. They be tryna get skates and Toad fish, they’ll eat anything so I gave them all the Puffer fish I caught.
@@marcuslarwa9098I’ve only ever seen agents give a warning here in RI. Buckets full of short fish, netting squid, all of a sudden no one speaks English.
I’m glad the DEM is out there though, if only to give the poachers a pause and a hassle.
As an avid fisher it’s disgusts me that I have to put back like 80% of the fish I catch. In conjunction to that I also have to bring a measuring tool, be able to identify pregnant fish, and keep in with the countless changing laws. Now a days of you teach a man to fish he’s more likely to get arrested than to be able to eat and he’s even more likely to be spending around 300 for all marked up equipment.
WE NEED TO REMOVE ALL HIGH END COMPANIES COMPLETELY!!!! THE SMALLEST FISHERMEN GET THE PERMIT
just like houses, companies shouldn't be able to own them at all. individuals only.
Decentralization is always the answer
And then what? Now the small fishermen have exclusive rights, giving them a monopoly. Effectively barring anyone else from fishing and making them the biggest operations.
Do we just recursively take fishing rights away, endlessly, until the heat death of the universe?
@@Telmach tha-thats not what a monopoly is... A thousand small fishermen having a certain quota they can fish to is better than some dude sitting back and collecting money off of 1000 fishermen
@@roscojenkins7451 Okay, and what happens when those '1000 fishermen' decide to retire? Do we allow them to sell their fishing rights then?
Or do you prose that the federal government which "misplaces" $2 Trillion a year manages the fish with their superior accounting abilities?
This is insanity! It’s like the same system of a limited number of licenses for taxi cabs!
Uber fish
Care to guess why it’s absolutely necessary to have a limited number of licenses for taxi cabs?
Because otherwise it becomes hard to make a living!
If you live in a city that can sustain let’s say 200 licences - and all make a living - what do you think will happen if a large company that can afford losing money for a longer period of time then add 200-300 cars?
Remember that fish for consumers market are in high risk of overfishing - so it need to be regulated!
However, there are other ways to regulate it, that benefits smaller single owner vessels and larger co-op vessels!
Just as it can be done in the cab business by limiting the numbers of licences a single company can own!
@@gorillaguerillaDK I get that to a point. But I saw the same problem happen with the taxi cab industry. It became super expensive to buy one of the limited licenses. But Uber and Lyft destroyed that whole system anyway. I can see why Taxi people were upset. And I u sweat and the need for conservation. If taken care of, fish are literally a renewable resource; they make more of themselves. But this method just seems ripe for corruption, consolidation, and exploitation.
@@mediabreakdown8963
That's why some countries, such as mine, don't allow Uber or any similar services.
And licenses for cabs are kept at a fair price.
Unfortunately overfishing really is a thing - and combined with climate change it puts a lot of pressure on some of the very popular consume fish.
Here, in my neck of the wood, we have issues with both.
Climate change causes temperatures to change and some fish are very sensitive to even relative small changes.
We also have to deal with combinations of climate change and environmental factors, especially in coast near fishing where lack of oxygen basically kills everything.
Add to this, not all fish can just migrate and thrive - aside from temperature they're used to different levels of salt saturation.
In the Baltic Sea the average is around 0.8%, in Kattegat, (straight between the Baltic Sea and the Atlantic Ocean), its 2%, and as you go from Kattegat to Skagerrak and into the North Sea, (Atlantic Ocean), it rises to 3.3%
Fish only replenish if they're having the right conditions for it, and if there's enough of them.
And people are greedy and we constantly have to keep an eye with fishing vessels that breaks the laws, both in regards to where they're allowed to fish, and in regards to when they catch more than they're allowed to - or species they're not allowed to catch!
@@mediabreakdown8963fish are renewable until you drive them to extinction
I am a recreational fisherman in the South Atlantic with a small boat and every one of my friends will tell you there are way more red snapper than the regulators tell you. Every time I go I have to leave several fishing spots because all you can catch are red snapper. They are actively trying to discourage recreational fishing for the benefit of these large corporations.
To keep people slaves to greedy corporations for food.
It's a protection racket for the rich so they can profit while the poor starve.
That’s the thing, when they get hard to find that’s already population collapse
In the Gulf of Mexico the Red Snapper population is down. The size is minimal. We need a catch and size limit and a restriction stating you have to actually catch your own fish, for the Gulf not a futures market. The Walton’s suck. All they do is sell Chinese made products in their stores.
Fantastic piece.
You should come to Kodiak and do a feature on the trawl industry there.
I’m a new entrant (2010) worked my tail off for 9 years and purchased my own vessel and permit in 2019.
The values of our fisheries have plunged 50% in the last few years, with processors flat out refusing to buy some of our traditional species.
We are receiving 50% less for pollock per pound than the Bering Sea fleet is. For bigger fish with better roe content.
Our processors routinely tell us they can’t afford to pay more. Yet, they continue to beat us down further and further.
We’re struggling to survive with no end in sight.
Our processors claim the only way to raise the value of our fisheries is to rationalize them… and then they’ll own 20% of our fish…
You have the right to remain silent.
You should.
You have the right to be secure in your papers and effects.
You should.
Never give consent.
Never speak to police.
Always record.
I'd be interested in seeing you cover the bicycle industry, especially the decline of small local bike shops as they struggle to compete with nationwide franchises and corporate consolidation.
Unfortunately corporate dominance seems to be the cancer in every industry. I'm sure bike shops are no exception.
One solution is for local county supervisors to limit corporate expansion within their jurisdiction. But will they? I highly doubt it.
God they suck so hard
The gigantism of everything will eventually be our downfall. Giant corps and giant government.
I always thought the tragedy of the commons was about unmanaged resources, not collectively managed resources.
Agreed. That appears to be a mistake in the video. Both systems described in the video are managed systems. No unmanaged system where a Tragedy of the Commons would take place is even discussed.
You are right. She is wrong.
I say that the entire Wal ton family fortune should be confiscated save 2% and redistributed in equal shares to everyone under a certain income threshold in this country. They are nothing but robber barons and I just think it's disgusting that we allow single families and single individuals and single companies to amass the kind of wealth that we do. It's it's literally beyond insane.
It's a madness that seems to have no end.
It's almost as if feudalism never ended... As if the kings and queens of old never went away but simply rebranded themselves as "capitalists" and continued business as usual 🤔
I mean sure, a few new families get to join the exclusive .01% club, but still feels like it's all one giant sham...
Who's going to confiscate it?
Do you really believe that any one would share their money with you? Do your family members share their money with you, no strings attached?
No.?
How much of your money do you share with strangers?
Why? Because they'll take advantage....and you'd get nothing out of it.
Same idea.
$$$$ "IT'S ALL MINE!!!" $$$$$$ BAWAAHAHAA!
Agreed! To force a majority of your workforce to apply for government welfare because you refuse to pay a living wage should eliminate your ability to profit. Honestly stores like these should have government competition, so we could have a chance at controlling the prices and securing a sense of security.
@@judylandry302 (abc) you ok there??? Obviously this is something that's unlikely to happen in our lifetime but yes under certain circumstances I would certainly support the confiscation of excessive private wealth and the redistribution along lower income lines.
Will it happen? Almost certainly not, but what I would support it? Uh yeah.
And I'm not even against wealth per se but I am against excessive wealth and I'm def against Walmart, that fkg cancer of a megastore chain that has put half of the country out of business and makes untold zillions yet has scumbag floorwalkers literally run after desperate homeless people or poor people taking formula or basics home to their babies (or themselves).
2% is too generous.
Great to see "federal" agents making sure americans dont break the law by fishing. Meanwhile thousands of immigrants crossed our southern border everday and are welcome with open arms and benefits. Good job federal agents.
This channel gained a lot of credibility with me in this video.
Appreciate, focusing on not just conservation, but also also the livelihood of people
12:00 im a law abiding fisherman and uh no, i dont want to be hassled by a bunch of loose trigger cops who like harassing poorer folk. He's basically giving us the good ol' "if you've got nothing to hide why are you worried?" accusation
Yeah I'm with you on this one. They can fuck right off
Exactly. We should all be happy and thankful we are being forced to abide by arbitrary rules turned into laws by rich men for even richer men and backed up by thugs with guns just doing their jobs and threatin with taking your livelihood and freedom. Then labeled unpatriotic and a left wing liberal for not backing the "blue" who are happily destroying our rights.
Hey maybe if the rest of the country didn’t also experience this everyday some of us might care about you
Could big business not ruin things for ONCE
big business that doesn’t ruin things can’t stay big, cuz other big business that does ruin things will then proceed to scrap and gobble up that “restrained” big business
Sure, if the people ensure they are kept in perpetual fear of consequences.
There are a few. Costco refused to raise prices for their consumers even after Wall Street clowns demanded they do so.
They only have that control through government regulation. You vote for them to have MORE control.
It's against their interests. Organisations always have built-in self-preservation, and capitalism is an eat-or-be-eaten system.
Another thing that needs to be socialized. Privatization is failing.
What is privatized exactly?
Huh? I think you have it backwards. Only big companies can survive Covid, workers don’t make enough to live
@@RUclipscensoredmyusernamethat's because big companies get bailed out by our tax dollars, they need workers or they die.
It’s not privatization, it’s government collusion with the rich to turn us back into serfs. We own nothing and they rent it to us, and we work for them and they jack the rent and cut our pay. Since at least Mesopotamia it has been this way..
@@ChrisWijtmansprivate ownership of fishing rights as opposed to government regulation. It is another chip out of our freedom. Selling us to the rich and powerful. You own nothing, have no rights and must work for and pay the elite for your daily bread. Nice little trap…serfdom, slavery?
Without even watching the video, the problem is government..... far to much government...
Its greed of the individuals too!
The government should never be in charge of anything.
I thank you so much for exposing the corruption 👍❗
You call it "corruption". I call it "Capitalism" because it been made "legal" by the ones with the most money so they can make even MORE money. Funny how that works, right?
What corruption? Did they accuse anyone of taking bribes? Was anyone assassinated? Did anyone have their property stolen?
@@Telmach i dont think you understand what corruption is
this is a conservation program... that then was turned into a profit oriented business to control the lives of workers and to consolidate power in the hands of a few rich people
i dont know how much more you could corrupt that original purpose
@@Telmach Yes, fisherman got their rights to fishing stolen
@@yuri0001 So the fishermen had their right to fish stolen, and they are going out into the ocean and tacking fish from the water, putting it into their boats, and delivering that cargo to the land. Yeah that's the worst kind of corruption, let our fishermen fish!
Those dastardly fiends!
The netflix documentary series rotten covered this story really well with the codfather in new hampshire. I was the exact same story of prizatization screwing over local fisherman. Its a great watch.
Are “Marine Police” different than regular police? They look and sound very similar.
And are they at all related to the U.S. Marine Corps., or do they just call themselves "marine" because it sounds cool?
@@InventorZahran “Aqua Rangers” wasn’t cool? “Sea Guardians!”?
I guess it sets a bad precedent to include exclamation points in law enforcement agency names…
@@InventorZahran🤦♂️
Fish Dicks
Most states have state law enforcement like a "marine patrol" in charge of bodies of water, including lakes, rivers and coastal water, since regular cops don't usually have boats. There are also fish and game officers/wardens who make sure you are hunting/fishing legally
Let's get this straight. As a citizen, you have to buy your rights yearly and could lose them. As an American National, you NEVER lose your rights nor pay for them! FACTS!
A wildlife officer came on my family property and tried to ask us for our hunting and fishing license at the private lake. Yea, it turned into extreme craziness when he called for backup from more wildlife officers. Good a sheriff deputy who understood private land came, cuz somebody had went to sniper positions.
They were gonna Ruby ridge you over a license? No wonder why this country's fucked
In Virginia they still cite some 1600s bullshit colonial law to justify trespassing as "conservation officers" for any reason without a warrant
Thank you for this! As someone who has lived on the Gulf Coast my entire life, I’ve seen this play out with disastrous results for freedom. Catch Share has turned fishermen into share croppers, and the Gulf is now owned by the aristocracy with the peasants required to buy from the aristocracy to make a living.
Capitalism working as intended.....
@@Backinblackbunny009 this isn’t capitalism. This is oligarchy.
@@bigrich6750 No it's capitalism. Oligarchs love capitalism; they're the ones who have the capital to 'win' at it.
@@wasd____ oligarchy is not capitalism, and no one owns the natural resources. They should be controlled to avoid overfishing, but control is not ownership. The catch share is more communistic than capitalistic. To pay someone to harvest something they don’t own is not just an injustice - it is evil.
@@bigrich6750 No it's still capitalism.
RUclips won't let me say this straight forward, so let me try it like this...an American revolution like the one they had in France in 1789 is something that sounds a little better every day and something Americans should give serious thought to.
You do realize the aftermath, right?
@@ProfAzimov worth it
We really should and we have the guns to do so but we're still arguing over ideologies
Itd be so funny if he was like "oh yea the aftermath, i forgot about that, nevermind then."...
@@kingkazuma2239according to plan
You don't know many commercial fishermen if you think two guys with clipboards will be able to get that done in all situations 😂
This people made me laugh they made it sounded like SWAT raided them so dramatic
Please publish it on the National news for the people to know how our corrupt government works .
yeah, WalMart wants to make the world a great place, except for its employees!! pay them AS LITTLE AS LEGALLY ALLOWED. such a sweet & generous family!
People can tell youre wildly out of touch with the real world by your comment. Walmart has been hiring people at a significantly greater rate of pay than minimum wage for many years now. There are plenty of reasons to dislike walmart, but this particular reason is an actual out of touch lie
What walmart pays minimum wage??
Intimidation. Nothing more, nothing less.
i love how some people aren’t upset that the system is rigged for the top % they just wish they got there first
Yep…great comment.
Do you feel that way, or do you want to actually change things like reset the licensing system so that moneyphagging families that are in on this scam will lose their generational cash cows 😈
Oh you don’t like that kind of thinking huh 😂
It's happening everywhere in every costal state not to mention them selling quotas to foreign countries just unacceptable !!!! There's more two it!!!!
It all comes down to greed, my father was a fisherman in the FL Keys, now the majority of restaurants are owned by one corporation and that monopoly is the reason that keeps prices high for everyone and the profits all in the pocket of one.. buy and shop local know who owns the businesses.
You don’t own anything in America as long as you live here. You always have to pay either the government or the corporations and if not then you’re made homeless and land or property seized.
Yes!!!! I hate this!!!!!!
I want an alternative!!!
paying both is fine, but too much privatization and consolidation is terrible for everyone but the elite
@@grimaffiliations3671 do not call them elites call them leaches
Property and land taxes are there to pay for essential services. They also are a check against the formation of monopolies. Without such taxes, there is no downside to consolidation of property ownership, which causes an ever-smaller number of real estate corporations to own all land and forces everyone else to be renters.
@@radishpineapple74 property taxes support public schools, which should be generously supported, but not through property taxes alone, but through a combination of federal funding and other monies from the general fund. If PT should exist, and I'm not so sure they should, they should be less than what they are now, no more than 1%, and become optional after 5 or 10 years. At a minimum, no authority should ever be able to take your primary home if you can't or won't pay them; at _least_ if you cant. Think about it, for perhaps a claimed debt of $10,000 they're going to take a home worth $400,000? I presume they then auction it and give you back the difference, but it's still a cruel inhumane process. And what if they don't give you back the difference? I haven't researched it specifically yet, so I'm not even sure if they do, which makes it all the more evil and criminal. But for the moment, for the sake of argument, let's say they do. Let's say you received the difference in money that they received from the sale. So you're not left completely penniless but I doubt you received the full value of what that home is worth from said sale, so now in addition to being temporarily homeless you have lost some value of your home most likely in some level of excess from your original alleged tax debt. IE, if your home was fully worth $400,000 but only sold for $310,000 and your tax debt was only $10,000, you have lost $80,000 above and beyond what you ever legally owed.
If you owe me $500 would I be justified in taking your car worth $20,000, selling it and then giving you back the difference? That wouldn't be moral. Or even worse, not giving you the difference back at all? So that essentially I stole your car from you??? I took a huge asset from you for a tiny fraction of its actual worth- now that's a crime.
People want to be out here literally screaming about poor people taking toothpaste and baby formula from Walmart or clothes from some random big box store, stores that could give away 80% of their inventory and still make a profit, absolutely minor meaningless street level petty theft from multi-millionaire stores and billionaire chains, but people don't seem to realize the massive amounts of government theft and crime that we have to live with every day.
Even if those rules exist for the purposes you claim, it hasn't stopped anything. Billionaires and mega millionaires can still easily buy as much land or property as they want, and they are. Bill Gates owns more land than 60% of the population put together. Corporations own the rest.
So if that was its purpose, it's not working. There are plenty of land monopolies out here. There are quasi- monopolies of property in rental housing, including SFDHs, by mega corporate bodies like Black Rock. The corporate mega-consolidation of all our essential resources is well underway.
Land taxes may be fair if they are progressive and rise as a proportion based on the value and amount of land, but I would have to look into them further. Again, the same principle applies- they have no right to take the land if you're unable to pay these taxes. The land might be worth 2m, the tax that on it may be 20,000; they are in no way equal and then no moral universe does one equate to the other.
Seizing your two most important assets, your land and/or home, is just another way publicly-funded criminals (govt bureaucrats) destroy you for sport and profit. It's certainly inhumane and causes a lot of harm to people. I imagine most people who haven't paid their recent property or land taxes do so more out of lack of ability than personal opposition. Anything to keep government thugs out of our lives is probably an expense most people would be willing to pay IF they could afford it. What hardship programs exist for those who literally just don't have the means at the moment? Are there any? I don't know the answer to this but I'm willing to bet the answer is no. How easy it is for a megabank to foreclose on one's home??? All too easy, as too many good people found out in the wake of 2008, and this is by design.
Human well-being and personal property rights are a joke in a society administered by bloodthirsty tyrants who want material accumulation by any means necessary. It's far too easy to evict a rental tenant and with a little extra effort, a homeowning family, and this is very MUCH by design. Families' lives can be upended for years and years, their future renting or home purchasing ability can be seriously affected, so they stay in the cycle of homelessness and destabilization sometimes for decades but certainly for some years, unless they are fortunate and have a family to reach out to or get lucky in some way.
As a humane person I find this wrong, I find this unjust, and I demand a different system of laws which haven't been bought-and-paid-for by big banks and corporate rental landlords, and supported by greedy ruthless local municipal government officials.
We can discuss tenant and rental reform later but at a minimum homeowner and land-owning reform seems urgently needed.
Would love to see you cover the game industry, where ceos and managers exploit the players and developers, all the mass firing going on in the game industry and how greedy game monetization is turning young kids into gamblers. Also how Ai is legit stealing people's creative works in the industry.
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"There were men forcibly conducting an armed raid, that seems excessive and unnecessary"
"Oh well thats actually good because you see the fear keeps people in line 😊"
They served and protected the hell out of that fisherman.
Lots of good information, as someone who has recreationally fished the Gulf of Mexico my whole life I refuse to spend a dollar at any business the Guidons own. If it were up to "Buddy" he'd own every red snapper in the Gulf of Mexico. Their briefly aired show was ridiculous, luckily it didn't last very long and the family was sued for keeping a deck hand at sea while the guys hand was basically rotting.
We've militarized the game warden now. Every one of these guys have a degree and $100K a year salary. They are there to generate revenue. Be mindful and absolutely exercise your right against self-incrimination and never volunteer to waive any of your rights.
After watching this I’ve come to two conclusions
1. Shit is fucked up
2. I’m not smart enough to understand it
Mississippi is an open carry state, so the fishermen could have guns on their belts too. The cops might treat you differently though.
They'll blow you away like a dog and get away with it. Cops are only there to protect the property and assets of the 1%
These policies absolutely ruined my hometown; and it has never recovered.
There's millions of places to fish where you don't need a permission slip from Walmart just to fish. In fact, if you're sustaining your life, you don't need a permission slip to take anything from nature that nature freely provides. Almost the entire west coast of America has free fishing for anybody...no permission slip or anything. If you obey government then there's your problem. George Washington even said obeying any government, especially the American one, wasn't appropriate. Humans shouldn't obey people who are actively trying to poison and murder them.
If the government worked as hard to find fentanyl, we'd be drug free.
This happened in New York City with taxis - most of the drivers were renting but some had bought the cabs at insane mortgage rates- then Uber and Lyft came in and undercut everyone.
I’m very satisfied that we made Uber and similar companies illegal here in my country!
@gorillaguerillaDK uber and lyft helped kill a monopoly system that had poor service, long wait times and extremely high prices
Those coins were a retirement plan for NY cabbies
The Tragedy of the Commons always comes about when the resource is exploited by self interest. Collective management has always been a viable solution.
Agreed. I have always understood Tragedy of the Commons to describe what happens when something ISN'T collectively managed, allowing individuals to act according to their own self-interest. The "derby days" were still a form of management meant to avoid a Tragedy of the Commons.
Yeah, more $$ for the rich and scraps for the poor 😢😅😂
How the hell did the government take ownership of the ocean? The ocean was a gift to all of us from the powers above
I can't stand the terms "compliant" and "law abiding" as if all of our rights aren't being stripped by adding more laws like these
The more I learn about how our country has set up even the simple things the more anger I get at the blatant corruption
If you haven't already done it, an episode on teachers or nursing would be interesting.
Thank you so much for covering this. It has been an issue for my whole life and I hope this helps get the attention it needs.
“Searching citizens by threat of force is a “good thing,” cuz if you’re compliant you want to see that.” That’s a guy who’s never worked a hard day and then been searched at gun point. Gfy
So here's a question....How often do they do a "fish audit" on the big guy? I'll bet they leave him alone
Public school teachers in most states. Huge class sizes and reduced planning time reduces the amount of time teachers can spend with and planning for each child and their unique learning needs. Many experienced teachers have left the field because of the poor conditions, so not only are there more newer inexperienced teachers, but also less experienced teachers to mentor the new ones. A teaching brain drain. It's really a travesty for the students, teachers, and society in general. Thanks for the work you're doing.
THANK YOU. This is a HUGE. Problem
The working conditions of elementary teachers is horrible
The public education system is working exactly as intended to produce a population of ignorant slaves that can't see through the lies of the elites.
The colleges of education at our universities are a huge part of the problem. They are the ones who keep publishing bullshit research and pushing for equity-based programs.
The biggest need right now is to separate lower performing and anti-social kids like they used to.
Blame the Unions. They have complete control.
Stop with your bs. most teachers today don’t educate, they indoctrinate. The more funding the schools get the worse the outcomes for students are. Prime example is Ca. which spends the most per capita and has nearly the worst graduation rates The federal government has no authority to be involved in education and it needs to be governed localized once more.
I've started working in the public school districts, managing the finances. And it isnt pretty. The percentage of school budgets that pay teacher salaries has been growing each year as cuts are made to everything else.
Legislature keeps compounding the complexity of accounting.
When schools received a lot of money during the pandemic they got the money to spend on things like sanitation or technology to make learning safe. But they got the money long before they got the rules for how to spend it. After the fact law makers are saying what it should be spent on and its a nightmare.
But the biggest threat to schools is charter school programs, taking what little public funding we have and moving it to private businesses that do not have to adhere to the same rules.
The Department of Education is administered by the United States secretary of education. It has 4,400 employees - the smallest staff of the Cabinet agencies[5] - and an annual budget of $68 billion.[6] The President's 2023 Budget request is for $88.3 billion.
MPU should investigate internet service providers...on how the lack of competition is embraced. I just found out how AT&T has exclusive service rights for a newly developed community that recently opened.
You left out how the fishing industry has almost completely cut out Red Snapper limits for sport fishermen
This is a ridiculous way of doing this but then any time the government is involved you get ridiculous!
I’m all for quotas, in fact it’s a necessity for sustainable fishery - but it has to be heavily regulated!
No one should be able to buy up most of the catch share!
Here in Scandinavia where I live we have quotas as well, but we try to limit how large a share each fisherman/vessel can own!
If you’re the owner of a single vessel, you will in general have a slightly higher share than someone who owns five ships of similar size will have pr ship!
Some fishermen then goes together in small cooperations and buy a much larger vessel, and because they’re maybe three or four owners, they will still have a much higher share than someone buying a large vessel on their own!
If someone have two small old vessels, they can dismantle them and build a brand new larger vessel, the two shares can be combined into one larger share.
Of course there’s always people who try to find loopholes, and sometimes they do so successfully and/or in a manner where they get to benefit from cases falling under statute of limitations!
And much more need to be done to stop these "quota-kings" and make it easier for others to get their own ship!
Currently, on the top 100 of the richest persons in my country, there’s two if not three of these "quota-kings", and one of them was recently involved in a major court case, because he had registered family members as owners of some of his ships to increase the catch-share….
So yeah, it’s not perfect here, but far more is still being done to make sure that small vessels can get a share that makes it a viable income to be a fisherman - especially small coastal fishers that solely fish for the consumers market, they’re in a bracket of their own, where larger ocean going vessels that often have a higher need for also fishing for industrial used fish, (fish oil, fishmeal, etc.), are in a bracket on their own as well….
Good work! Always film the police!
A criminal search warrant for what crime????
“ I’m with the government and I’m here to help you” …… you should fear those words.
I’m a small time fisherman. We are struggling with low dock prices for our fish and political pressure to close the fishing.
Take a look at the recovery industry. Working as a behavioral health associate in a high level treatment facility has changed over the years with cost reductions and profit focused changes. Ratio, patient meals, safety training, crowding, medication management and incident procedures.
It's CRAZY that it's legal to rent out something like that
Not really, but a better solution is definitely needed.
This whole selling of shares in fishing rights reminds me so much of taxi medallions in New York.
Same thing happened in Newfoundland, Canada. A rich billionaire from a different province took over our FPI. That is basically the whole fishing unit in Newfoundland. John Risley of Clearwater milked it dry and then amalgamated it with his own company. Thousands of fisherman, and plant workers lost their jobs while John Risley is fishing in it like there is no limit. Most of the fishing companies in Newfoundland are not even Canadian. And now they want to move us all from our homes. The Newfoundland Government calls it "The Big Reset". You can easily find it online.
It was never about conservation, it was about controlling market shares from the start.
The bit at the end about the tragedy of the commons and privatization not being the solution... I've seen manufacturing plants and the machines inside them run into the ground because management would rather run the machines broken than stop production to fix things before it becomes significantly bad.
I can understand that Wall Street loves being able to buy and sell fishing rights and that probably makes it easier for bad actors to profit, but how is a direct quota system going to make Ryan’s life better or protect his “right to fish”? You glossed over that part.
11:06 No way that was a coincidence, someone didn't like you being there and made a call.
100%%%
We went charter fishing off the coast of Washington and when we returned to the dock THREE wildlife game officers were there at the dock waiting to document our catch.
You can’t identify intimidation? They know he is making waves by fighting back. He better cross all his T and dot every I.
The rich get richer.