Living Fossils, Evolution, and Cryptids
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- Опубликовано: 16 окт 2024
- Sorry for the very long wait! I’m back babe and we are tackling a topic I’ve dealt with a lot of this channel: the evolutionary and cryptozoological relationships of living fossils with biology. Organisms like crocodilians and coelacanths are often called living fossils and everyone from creationists to cryptozoologists use them constantly to prove either dinosaur and man co-existence or to disprove evolution. Today, I plan on dispelling a lot of the confusion associated with this topic by looking at the actual scientific evidence. Hope you enjoy!
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"living fossils" can also be explained like this: If an animal doesn't need to change, it doesn't. (at least not too much)
Organism, remember. Plants can be living fossils too.
if it ain't broke don't fix it!
I was about to say that Lmao
I like to compare it to a hammer. Whether it's 10,000 years old or 10, most people would be able to almost instantly recognize it. Does that mean that humans haven't made advancements with their tools? No, it's just that there's no need to change the design of something that is already really good at it's intended purpose.
HOW ABOUT LIVING DINOSAURS HAVENT YOU SEEN THEM ?
how can coelocanths be "red herrings" when they are clearly coelocanths.
badum tss
*GUN SHOTS*
because evolution cannot be debunked.
It is irrefutable.
sarcasm
@@ianjuarez7335 creationist
@@5spec Dude chill. He's just projecting lmfao
@@ultimateloser3411 bruh
Technically, we do live alongside dinosaurs. I just saw two honking and flying over me while I took the trash out. I saw another eat a worm that was in the grass
The Wolf of Comedy and be cautious, some dinosaurs like to poop in your head
And be especially careful around that one crested blue-faced dinosaur that can jump five feet off the ground and viciously attack you with its talons. I am talking, of course, about the dreaded Cassowary.
My dad keeps a whole flock of Dino’s at his farm. They’re vicious
My grandpa makes houses for them and feeds them he’s one brave man
Yeah, I had dinosaur eggs for breakfast, hard boiled. Now granted this isn't direct evidence, but if dinosaurs aren't around, where does the supermarket get chicken eggs from?
Whether they're "living fossils" or not, the fact that we found living coelacanths _before_ bridging the gap in their fossil record is pretty cool.
its funny that the creationist using living fossils to disprove evolution while Darwin, the father of evolution theory, already predicted it and even said it should happen.
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It's also funny because they don't consider that maybe the animals just had successful survival strategies
When I die I want to be buried in a fossil formation to confuse future paleontologists
Iklalz Yeah lol. That would be pretty funny
Then we will leave a tag somewhere near your grave that says "LOL it's just a prank paleontologists from the future!"
Carbon dated...
But yeah it would confuse the shit out of them when it first dig out.
@@alphakingkilu3537 fossil fuels are ruining carbondating tho (not to the point it would matter that much tho)
(and if you dont know what i mean by fossil fuels are ruining carbon dating it has to do with ruining the balance of some tipes of carbon in the air but if you havent herd of it before i would recomend looking it up)
@Bootiful B other way of telling if the body been buried there is the sediment around it, even if you use the same sediment to cover the body it will still look like it been disturb, and when i say carbon dated im not talking about the carbon date itself, im talking about when they do carbon date on the bone it would shown the there still elements in the bone it self that proof it a bone and not a fossil.
Trey, have you ever herd about Pleistocene Park? It's a park in Russia where they want to recreate the ecosystem of the mammoth steppe. They want to reintroduce many animals such as moose, bisons, horses and other animals that lived in this ecosystem during the ice age. They also want to clone wooly mammoths! I think you should make a video about it.
I love that place!
Sounds very interesting
There’s no place for mammoths anymore. We should work to preserve species that have ecological importance.
𓊈 𝐀𝐬𝐩𝐡𝐨𝐝𝐞𝐥 𓊉 Nothing wrong with a good old mammoth
@@teeps8124 except for imbalance in the ecosystem.
Nowadays a mammoth wouldn't have natural enemies anymore, and they need a huge amount of energy (food) in order to sustain themselves.
Ultimately, over time, they'd end up having a bigger population than their environment can provide food for, while also driving the other species away.
That's what happens with invasive species all over the planet already.
So there are two options: either you abandon the project, and the mammoths keep spreading, or you're literally reviving an extinct species to then hunt it, in order to keep it under control.
Since the project is supposed to be a sanctuary, the second option is pretty much off limits. Mammoths had their shot at life, they didn't quite cut it, just let them rest.
My middle school teacher taught it as, "Survival of the fit enough," which avoids all the semantic issues.
"Evolutionary slow-pokes"
I love it.
Are the slowest slow-kings ;)
Jared Sabatelli I respect you and have appointed you the speaker of your religion.
I think they just found their ecological niche.
Nice Pokémon joke
this video proves why we need scientific youtubers (on biology per say, there are allready lots of youtubers devoted to mechanical engineering, physics and chemistry but very few on paleotology and biology + zoology)
Keep up the good work trey, you're awesome.
I'd say those youtubers don't interest me.
I absolutely agree with you multimedia XL
@@Nitrodino7875 But you are watching this?
@@Nitrodino7875 Then why are you here?
I got into a huge online debate with a friend that is a creationist. It lasted for several days, in which I think I heard every logical fallacy and bullshit argument in the book. He doesn't really know much about science and was clearly just copying things from a creationist website (even though he denied it). I kept debunking one after another but instead of admitting defeat he just kept going. He finally got to one that I wasn't well versed in at the time. A rather overcomplicated misconception about radio dating. He sensed my reluctance on the subject and wouldn't let it drop. Proclaiming victory and telling me that my position was just as much "faith based" as his. He somehow forgot about the first 50 things I debunked and rode this golden nugget of ignorance to the finish line. This infuriated me at the time and I realized that it's a total waste of time. Even after I read up on the subject I didn't bother pursuing him with the truth because it would just be another endless string of nonsense.
TLDR: Creationists are usually not truth seekers and they don't care about science. They only play the game to spread doubt and muddy the waters.
Trying to change the mind of someone going into a debate with their mind firmly made up is like playing chess with a chicken.
You can have the most airtight and logical defence on earth, but in the end they'll just knock all the pieces over, crap on the board and strut around like they won something.
Aidan Webb a more accurate term like trying to move a steel beam with a hand shovel it doesn't work like that
I had the same thing happen with an islam apologist. They do not want to see truth or logic, only their dogma.
Cosmic Atrophy "arguing with a fool proves there are two"-(I forgot the name of the person)
Cosmic Atrophy anti-creationists are not truth seekers either. They're absolutists JUST as much.
Neckbearded retards.
Dude I am a Christian *BUT* believe in evolution and an old earth, and I'm so glad you've made these videos! Young earth creationism makes me so mad. Thank you!
Good job! Now all you have to do is to drop that silly book! If you do that you will be completely right!
@@5spec hahaha am I allowed to believe there's a man upstairs?
@@spacej0e if it's a magic man that gave us a contradictory book, let us suffer and even let his own believers die then no
I know your comment is a bit old but stay with your beliefs but continue to question things that seem suspicious to you and accept things with evidence
@@5spec you do realize that most creationists don't even believe whats in the bible right? or is nuance too scary for someone who just wants to act smart online.
When there's little change in millions of years, creationists cry "Look! No evolution!". Yet when there is change they shriek "Different kinds! No evolution!". No point arguing with most of the feckers.
No, they say it is micro evolution.
@@statmemento3984 If micro evolution exists, then macro evolution must exist over a long enough period of time or a fast enough rate of evolution.
@@sudonim7552 Exactly, my comment was sarcastic.
It's like how you can't argue with transphobes because they say their bigoted stuff and ask for evidence disproving them, then when you show them something that disproves them they say it's just "transposting propaganda" or something like that
And when you point them out on that they said Micro evolution they said “Evolution doesn’t exist “
I actually don’t know I never talk to One
Using crocodiles are "Living fossils" usually means they haven't seen a fossil of the very earliest crocodilians, and are unaware of the sheer diversity of the Crocodylomorph fossil record. Indeed, it looks like the Triassic ancestors of crocs looked a lot like the Triassic ancestors of dinosaurs; it's even likely that crocodilians LOST endothermy as another adaptation for their aquatic lifestyle.
Yeah when you see how diverse crocodylomorph was the thought that the pitiful remnant still alive today are entirely unchanged is completely ruined.
Crocodylomorphs were fascinatingly diverse during the Mezozoic, it's kind kind of unfair to them when people say they haven't changed.
I agree, all you have to do is to look at some of the marine crocodylomorphs from the Jurassic and Cretaceous Periods (such as: Dakosaurus and Metriorhynchus) to get a glimpse as to how truly diverse this order of reptiles used to be.
Creation scientists: I wonder why these violent killing experts havent been forced to evolve yet!?
Didn't one of them have hoofs at some point?
I showed this to my creationist math teacher again and she told me "don't go watching such garbage, Demitre! " but, then again what does she know?
Demitre Burger I dare u to show her another one
hi
Soon treu
Soo treu
How is she a math teacher?
*H O W*
I a, thinking by fraud.
You gotta admit, those Creationists sure are...
Creative.
*Not in a good way though-*
@@theluckyone9658 hmmm yes
Lol
🤣🤣🤣👍
Creative with their mental gymnastics? Yes
So basically they didn't evolve because they didn't need to.
Sort of, the rate at which they evolved is slower than other organisms because their environments and niches stay pretty consistent throughout time
Bon Bon i think it does, because natura selection doesnt affects us anymore, now a days if you dont reproduce is because you dont want to, or you have a very low self esteem to get a partner that wants to have babies with you. Even the ugliest and weakest human can get a partner
We're still evolving. If you've had to wear braces, blame evolution for making our jaws smaller thanks to our awesomely cooked, genetically improved modern diet.
Bon Bon Expect human evolution to be a lot slower than it used to be before only a hundred thousand years ago. As Lord Turnip said, natural selection doesn't affect us anymore. That is because we have achieved a degree of control over our environments as well as developed tools and methods to survive in environments that wouldn't support us normally (most importantly insulated buildings with interior heating, flowing water systems and methods of preserving food). We can easily accomodate individuals who were born with traits that would have made them unfit to survive even only for a few minutes only a couple hundred years ago.
We will probably still change as some traits are still found to be more attractive than others and people with those traits are slightly more likely to reproduce and other traits that were necessary for wilderness survival have become obsolete. More importantly, ethnicities are mixing more and more, probably to a point where they will have combined into a single one at some point.
Andrew Suryali i dont think that can be considered evolution, just mutation or degradation from the species, but i dont know XD
I am catholic, and I can tell you never have I once thought that Non avian-Dinosaurs and humans coexisted ever. Not even as a kid. I absolutely accept evolution and the fossil record. Great video as always, Trey!
Ps: DARTH VADER DOESN'T EXIST?! AWWWWW!!!!!!
I once wasn't as lucky. I use to believe in many of the things these creationists do and I'm very happy I no longer do. Thanks man!
Arturo García
Darth Vader does exist.
In your heart ♥
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Then you're calling your God a liar.
Open your mind, you will be free
people who call sharks living fossils know nothing of shark evolution
Great whites
Arthropods are living fossils! Because they lived since the carboniferous!
Lol jk
Adventure Fighter eukaryotes are living fossils
@RadioTSM {Operator Teddy Timis} Everything alive today has descended from something that existed at the dawn of time, but at the same time around 99% of all life that has ever lived on Earth at this point has already gone extinct. Statistically speaking there is a very high chance that most of those extinctions left no living descendants to speak of, making way for survivors of other lineages to take their place.
There are absolutely no living descendants of pterosaurs for example. There are living descendants of the basal archosaurs that eventually led to the evolution of the pterosaur in the form of crocodiles and birds, but since neither crocodiles nor birds evolved from pterosaurs, the pterosaur itself has no living descendants in the present day and thus has completely died out.
Wasn't there a shark found to be 500+ years old
The only human that lived alongside dinosaurs is my grandpa cuz he says he's old as dirt!
[Stubborn creationist comment by somebody who has no clue what they are talking about but still tries to use big scary words to sound smart]
yo wtf put the mask back on yeah the paleotolongicigiantoalpathetittycus is debunks his ponys.
Points*
what a load of hot air
@@andrewgan557 adgut9 rhngrthmjuby jkfu6enjy,kj.k
That's what they all do.
You should make a scenario of how dinos would evolve if they did somehow survive secretly
Birds
SpaceTaco 101 they ment non avian dinosaurs
Probably won't change much.
Read Dougal Dixon's "The New Dinosaurs"
Ichigo1423jfk pretty sure they would be a lot smaller because of oxygen, water and food
I commend you for it. This video made my day, as it was about time that someone devoted a video that would punch holes into these pseudoscientific arguments.
Thanks man! I'm happy you really enjoyed it and that my research wasn't for nothing!
This definitely isn't the first, there are many now available thanks to the internet and the advent of youtube. Still, this is a great video compiling and analyzing tons of information in a friendly manner. IMO as long as a few people are entertained or learn something new it is probably worth it.
Hello, CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS, if you mean what you wrote, and were not being a troll, then I write this writ: That is a wicked and ineffective way to defend our Christian faith.
CAVKING19DELTA TEXAS You labeled Dalibor Jovanovic a “dumbass”. I think Jesus Christ would not accept that way of defending Christianity for it is not done in love, but in hate. That’s how.
Additional note on "living fossils": fossils rarely supply DNA! High similarity in phenotype might not necessarily translate into the same high similarity of the genomes. Furthermore, organic structures are hard to compare between "living fossils" and actual fossils. And hormonal / enzymatic differences leading to differences in behavior are also hard to detect. Just because some fossil looks similar to a living life form, doesn't even mean the two could produce offspring, let alone fertile offspring!
And DNA degrades slowly but it DOES degrade. After about a million years, it's just garbage. We're never making Jurassic Park, even if we had t. rex blood (and amazingly enough, we do! Long story short, someone went full retard and was rewarded) and cloning working, we're not cloning a rex. The DNA is far too corrupted to be of any use.
I'd like to say that if giant dinosaurs and other prehistoric animals still existed, they would be found by now. It reminds me of the phrase 'elephant in the room' I sometimes twist it into 'Argentinosaurus in the room.'
I myself have a saying for why things like creationism are false. If what you are saying was true we would not be having this argument
Jeffrey Gao not necessarily. The places they supposedly exist are so vast and unexplored that saying “we would’ve found them by now”, or “we would’ve noticed”, doesn’t cut it. It’s not just environmental factors either that make discovery so difficult. There’s also the political unrest.I say let’s just stick with the fact that we don’t have a lot of evidence. Not because “we would’ve found them by now”
@@vme1111 Sounds like a defense of cryptozoology.
Jeffrey Gao sounds like not being so easily dismissive
@@jeffreygao3956 Yes, damn those people and the system that once claimed gorillas, giant squids, and platypus are real. What nonsense!
Dumbass.
With regard to dinosaurs still existing. How many digital cameras are there in the World today? Yet I have yet to see one plausible photo of one. I should mention I am a retired professional photographer.
Really you must suck at your job then I live in Florida and I see them every single day 😂
I think the problem is that we can't say if non-avian dinosaurs still exist or don't, as we lack any evidence. If a non-avian dinosaur is found to have survived it in the first place wouldn't prove creationists right, as the only thing it proves is that perhaps one non-avian dinosaur managed to survive and adapt to a remote area somewhere in small packs which we haven't explored yet. Can someone explain me why creationists think that this would prove evolution wrong?
Well consider this
As of today right now 95% of America is unexplored or just not widely traveled to
I've seen people with dogs jog past bobcats and coyotes in broad daylight and not even see them, everyday for a full YEAR I saw these people jogging in the Rilito River Wash in North Tucson and not once see these bobcats that were as big as their German Shepherds literally four feet away from them
Over 60% of the world is unexplored even with these cameras and drones flying around every day
But believe what you want
3 y.o. comment yet I couldn't help myself to poke my nose into... 😜
I very much hopes your theories could be proven 'useful' if the so called technology could reveal The Mariana Trench stories and facts. Or better yet, be humble to accept some arguments into consideration by comparing it to the vastness of universe. I second what @Wyatt Guilliams said. The fact of 'undiscovered lands' surely hide many knowledge waiting to be found and studied.
I consider every living being knowledge capacity as a drop of water no matter if they are a professor or a cleaner. No one has absolute truth.
Ever think about any dinosaur species could lurk within the Mariana abyss?
Or perhaps any of your job experiences could help me to answer your own question?
I respect your professional exp that you used to make yourliving not blindly condemned you off nothing.
I'm a nobody and Iearned English Language thanks to comment section in many RUclips educational contents. Many thanks to you too for urging me to react thus practicing my english...
@@wyattguilliams9472 if dinosaurs still existed we probably wouldn’t see so many animals occupying their same niches today. It’s the same reason megaladon doesn’t still exist. It’s role in the food chain is entirely taken up by other animals, and the footprint it left on the food web is clearly nonexistent
I learn more on this chanel then I learn in history
XD Happy I can be of service
OffensiveBrandon 711 most people have
OffensiveBrandon 711 True dat
who learns evolution in history class??? wtf????
TheDubstepAddict IKR
The creationists talking about dinosaurs and humans living together just makes me think of the flinstones
wonderful documentary series would highly recommend it.
The myth of Dragon's had to come from somewhere
After all every story of a dragon has a dragon slayer
If someone said that to me I would respond "Oh so you watch the Flintstones too!?"
@@wyattguilliams9472 Coincidences. People found lizards and birds, thought they’d be cool with flight, and then naturally, made them big. We don’t like big, hostile things, so we send out somebody capable of slaying down the dragon. Whether or not it was a group is determined by the odd coincidence that usual it’s a select group and not just a charge.
I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR VIDEOS MAN *APPOSABLE THUMBS UP*
^^ thanks man!
TREY the Explainer I've followed you since I started RUclips your are on my top 3 on my watch list ^-^
Awesome! I'm really happy you like my videos and stuck with me for so long, thank you!
thanks for always making videos.... aslo juarrasic world 2 is comig out next year,........so will you make some videos about it, bucuse its kinda nostigic for me.... it reminds me of a simply time, a time when grafity falls was still on, a time when star vs the forces of evil had just started , and i had a hot student teacher who believed in aliens(she was so cool) wow your channel brings back memories
trey Can you please watch Vegan Gains? He defends animals just like you did in this video.
I am really impressed on how straightforward you are, and how dedicated you are to correcting misconceptions and mistakes surrounding paleontology and fossils.
"There's gotta be dinosaurs out there somewhere" Damn right, in your McChicken.
I've been to a creationist museum out of curiosity and it was a wild ride. My mom and I had a lot o trouble not laughing lmao
I have never liked the term Living Fossil. Every living organism evolves. That is just how life works.
Not sure how we have become polarized on Religion Vs Evolution. Durning the Renaissance The Great Thinkers saw both Science and God in the same. That is the way I see it as a polytheist who chooses to follow Christianity and has Physics and Mechanical Engineering schooling.
A Grand Artwork set in motion by something well beyond our understanding.
I'm not a religious person, but a lot of my family is. Most of them believe that, yes, evolution as we know it is completely true - because of factors set there by God. Which I guess is a fair enough compromise. After all, I can't disprove the existence of an all-powerful being, just like they can't disprove evolution.
I am catolic and I think evolution is correct I dont know why Science and Bible fight against each other
Me neither, man. Creationism is sadly big in america and it seems to be tied to a sense of superiority to the rest of the animal kingdom a lot of people hold. Creationists often find the concept of them being apes insulting and it's almost impossible to argue with someone like that
Yes, And wow you answer me
people always see the bible being the opposite of science. it's just sad
It frightens me as a person who cares about science and the continued funding and recognition of research
This. I'm the same as well. It does sadden me that people think they have to be in opposition when there is no need for it. It's like saying math disproves philosophy.
Here is most creationist comments I found on every evolution video
"It's still a theory not a fact yet!"
They literally don't know what theory in science are
"If evolution is true then if we put frog in a jar why it didn't turn to rock?"
Evolution isn't changing individually but population
"Human and animal are different! We aren't a animal!"
Who did compare human to animal? We also classified as animal because if we not then were plant.
There is only 2 kingdom for living creature. Animals and plants
"We came from Adam and not monkeys!"
Darwin theory never said human came from apes or even monkey.
We just came from same ancestors
"Explain why there is still an apes today and why its not evolve to human yet?"
Noone ever said a Animal would evolve to other animal that already exists
And that's not how evolution work
Actually there are three kingdoms: animals, plants and fungi.
Well, multiversal theory does predict that there is a 100% chance that somewhere out there Darth Vader DOES exist - just not in this particular universe.
Yes, but in no possible universe is he not a whiny drama queen little bitch who cries about sand.
It actually doesn't. Infinite number of universes does guarantee all possibilities. One way of looking at this is there are infinite number of numbers between 1 and 2 and none of them are 3
@@michaelbaird9693 what
Well it said on a LONG TIME AGO IN A GALAXY FAR AWAY
@@macaarrooon sorry, I meant to type does not guarantee. The idea that the multiverse theory predicts everything is possible is untrue and a common misconception. There are different sets of infinity and so even with an infinite number of possibilities not all possibilities are possible. As I said previously, there are an infinite set of numbers between 1 and 2, 1.0, 1.01, 1.001, and so on, but none of those numbers will ever be 3, so even with an infinite set of numbers not all numbers are possible.
The first law of newtonian mechanics:
If the sum of all forces applied in an object equals 0, then the object won't change it's velocity.
In evolution would be: If a population of animals inhabit a constant environment with the same selective pressure, these would keep their characteristics for as long as such environment remains constant. And guess what....
Wait--so Mao was actually...
Pterodactylus gatesii?
Suddenly, so much becomes clear....
Excellent video, Trey. Thank you.
i'm a christian. i find creationists just as exhaustingly ignorant as most people.
As Christian who believes in evolution,
I think those creationists are crazy 😜
same
A Christian believing in evolution is a oxymoron and makes no sense you sir are the crazy one macro evolution and Darwin's evolution are two completely diff things lol look at dogs so many diff kinds but in the end they are all fucking dogs lol if all you had was bones you would think diff species when in fact they are all the same lol idk but digging into this topic with a hour long video instead of thousand of hours of research will lead you to biased unfactual information that will contradict itself around every corner of logical investigation. From what I have found is the truth isn't known and depending on who you ask and what they believe not what they can prove but believe is where all these theories come from that and dogma. If you think for yourself and are unbiased as I have been when I dug into this topic you will come to the same conclusion. The world is a massive huge place but also a small place at the same time and humans just are not ment to know every secret mother nature and this world hides. We are only humans after all and humans lie and manipulate to serve agendas. Wake up from the chains these two ideologies put us into these boxes they place us in and find your own truth.
Josh Rayborn are you suppose to be a creationist?
Same
@@CT7056 thanks for replying. I can finally save that first funny reply I got!
There is a Creationist Museum? I think a field trip is in order lol! Trey you can be our chaperone!
I would have a field day with the ARK Encounter. Did you know they just made an exhibit with giant humans fighting dinosaurs in a gladiator arena?
That sounds amazing and so accurate. We all know that's how that went down, ugh I can't help myself. The sarcasm just flys when we talk about Young Earth Creationist.
dont wear an evolution shirt, or speak about it or they send you away
There totally hasnt been numerous evidence against creationism!
yup, I live in Utah near one of the creation museums and yeah they are quite popular.
this channel is great. Didn't even know how interested I was in paleontology until I found this. Thanks for that. Also, its nice to see someone else with a realistic view and scientific approach and view of cryptids...even if it is a bit heartbreaking. damn you fundamental biology...I want to believe in monsters.
Good video as always Trey!
One question: When is the King Kong profile video going to be? Considering that Kong: Skull Island is now out on cinemas, i think that video would be a great tribute to the all mighty god that is Kong.
#KongisKing
Sebastian Gonzalez
*KingKong2005 rules*
KongSkullİsland was barely mediocre
Even the New design of kong's a failure
What are you even talking about?!?!
Kong Skull Island was one of the most awesome movies i've ever seen on cinema recently.And while i like the Peter Jackson one too, i think the 2017 one was better.Oh, and that new Kong desing you're complaining about? It's supposed to be a throwback to the 1933 King Kong and the King Kong vs Godzilla one.
But opinions are opinions so we must respect them.
I love both 2005 and 2017 Kongs.
Jackson's is a loving tribute to the 33 version
Skull Island is a Kaiju movie, pure and simply. O'Brien and Harryhausen wouldn't like it, but I think Tsuburaya would love it
It's funny when people like you be fickle and throw a fit when it's not the "right" design for a monster.
Seriously, you're as pathetic as the rest of them
I think his complaint is that it's pretty human. Thing is, so is the original Kong. O'Brien and Cooper had arguments over how gorilla vs human Kong should look. '05's Kong is very gorilla. So I think it's okay to make Kong humanoid. It wouldn't be the first time, and the effects look pretty cool.
Love how much evidence is suddenly required by the religious when it comes to science and evolution but put that Bible/Quran/Torah in front of them and they eat it all up with a spoon
No evidence is good enough for the religious.
But no evidence is good enough for the religious.
@@chickenfist1554 You mean evidence is not good enough for the religious, but no evidence is good enough for the religious?
@@terra_727 It means that they won't accept the very best evidence against religion, but they're happy to accept even the worst/zero evidence for religion.
@@chickenfist1554 Confirmation bias in a nutshell
@@terra_727 The best one I heard recently was, "Well if Moses never existed, who parted the Red Sea?" lol
Trey deserves an award of some sort for the amount of effort put into researching this science and teaching the internet
that or like a million subscribers
ya! TREY's back
Trey's back babe!
oh my god you responded
TREY the Explainer:
Hey TREY: So now when are you going to do the several theories of what killed the dinosaurs? I know the asteroid played a huge factor, but they're also on many factors behind dinosaurs Extinction Theory.
Hey Trey, I know you don't do much with modern-ish creatures; I.E, Ice Age time-frame, but could you do a video on Mammoth DNA, and / or the impact of ice on DNA. Or better yet, any Ice Age videos in general.
hey Trey on extend on ice age questions, does earth really covered with snow?, then how cold blooded reptilians survive this event?, and how this event (ice age) occur?, do you think ice age would have a potentialls to happen again?. thank you from your fellow fans.
Found a creationist article today that said "Mutation plus natural selection is not evolution."
Fucking kill me.
XD
Elephant940 Wow, that's like saying "tea leafs plus hot water does not equal tea".
I'm Catholic, and it bothers me that people like creationists make the entirety of their religious groups, as well as other religions, look like morons. STOP SAYING THAT THERE'S NO EVOLUTION. EVOLUTION IS A PROVEN FACT, CAN IT.
If you could reason with religious people they would no longer be religious.
It's funny seeing creationists in these comments try to use whatever excuses and wordplay they can muster to convert people.
Why does religion hate science so much?
I believe it has something to do with a lot of religions' claimed inerrancy. The Bible, Quran, and other holy books were created in a scientifically illiterate time period and as a result give largely mistaken views of history and science. On top of that, most holy books claim to be the infallible word of God and thus cannot be wrong. Some religious folk get hung up on these scientifically inaccuracies that should be expected from their given time periods and instead claim science itself is the thing that is wrong.
In other words, science is seen by some religious folk as a threat to their religion's authority as science reveals flaws in their teachings and promotes the questioning of dogma.
Why does Science hate Religion.?
@@robinconkel-hannan6629 No
@@HugoMSola ?
@@robinconkel-hannan6629 I mean, science does not hate religion, and religion does not hate science :v
Evidence of nonexistence is illogical, for evidence is left as a side-effect of existence.
That essentially sounds like a rephrased version of “absence of evidence is not evidence of absence”. With that said, if you’re using this as an argument to prove the creationist thesis (and correct me if I’m mistaken about that), then you’re out your mind and clearly didn’t listen to this video.
@@johannesaskehov No, you're not getting it dude. 'Evidence of absence' as he said is not invalid, what makes it illogical is when people use that as a support for their arguments, which is also illogical. A better way to put it would be 'absence of evidence is not evidence of absence nor is it a form of evidence itself'. The creationist position is poorly reasoned not because you said so, and not because an authority figure said so. It is poorly reasoned because it is not logically valid in such that it is impossible for the conclusion to false when the premises are true. A perfect example is the creationist argument at 02:50 in the video.
LAM Alien That was a mouthful haha, but thanks for trying to explain it.
I always wonder how a hoooooman process the information left intact by a natural formation or phenomenon of centuries deep in the ground or many that yet to be found at High Sea or Deep OceanTrench, by voice out their inner thoughts. Bravenly.
As if they had lived that loooooong and saw everything before their own googly eyes.
I do believe science helps many religions and believers live a better life by understanding more of the past for a better tomorrow.
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Well, when you have the toes a fossilized footprint pointing in a direction, it only makes sense to assume the animal went in that direction, so of course you would not have needed to been there back then to know which way the animal went.
You forgot to mention the Tuatara
Tuatara lives in New Zealand - an island with not alot of predators and competitors - thats why they have retained many ancient characters like the pineal body because they simply make do with them.
As I'd like to phrase it: Significant evolutionary change is the deviation rather than the rule. Most evolution is just small tinkering to adjust a creature to slightly varying circumstances. Major innovations only occur with major changes to the environment, newly opened up niches or perhaps a novel mutation. Also, Stephen J Gould's drunken man's path comes to mind: There's a lower limit to complexity, but not so much an upper limit. So even waddling around, for evolutionary change the only way is up!
coelacanths are soooo cool :)
I agree! Very beautiful looking fish indeed!
A Swedish Fish proved there are fossils of Coelacanth between the KPG and now.
Actually two coelacanth fossils including the one you speak of was found.
TREY the Explainer Oh sorry
@@TREYtheExplainer no the second one is crap, I have comment explaining it
To be honest, its kinda funny to watch creationists react when you give them the statistics of it all, its like watching a rainbow multihued loading screen that can't decide if its done yet
And then after they're done loading they say that "it's just propaganda" just like transphobes saying that any pro trans results to studies are "just propaganda"
I wrote this so long ago i didnt even remember posting this.
Or the context
"But derz like humen and dino trax in the same layer and the reason you don't hear aboot it is cuz conspiracy."
Ian Juby, kinda.
Illegal Alien ikr that’s literally all of the creationists right now 😂
Great video as always Trey. I loved how you explained that living fossils are just animals/plants at a slower rate of evolution. I also loved the Darth Vader bit and that it is theoretically possible for non-avian dinosaurs to still be alive despite there being zero evidence to support that. I personally view "dinosaur" cryptids similar to the bizarre alien cryptids that are essentially impossible to have evidence to support and are solely based on eye-whiteness reports. I feel that the "if it's not broke don't fix it" factor with living fossils is becoming less meaningful with the rapid change of human interaction with environment. Before humans, species like crocodiles didn't have to evolve as much. However, with the rapid change and destruction inflicted by humans, many species can't adapt fast enough. It would be awesome if you did a video comparing the destruction caused by human advancement to a mass extinction event of some sort. I'm not sure how it would compare, but human activity has brought some significant extinctions. Just an idea I had for fun, but this video was great as always. Please let me know if you've already made a video already on human destruction of environment compared to a mass extinction; I'd love to see it.
Love your content! Very interesting to listen to. And I like your laid back attitude while debunking false claims. Good on you for calling out creationism as false and not backing down. You call it false while not being condescending or insulting (which is not easy I know
Scientists:
'Living Fossils are another proof for evolution'
Creationists:
'BUT WHAT ABOUT [insert deity]?!??!!?!?!??!???!!!!??!11ß1ß??!?!ß1ß1ß!?!?1?!?'
i think this topic is intresting
Me too!
U from the great and bustling nation of Kekistan?
TREY the Explainer I would be interested to know what you think about the discovery/suggestion that Ediacaran lifeforms may have survived still live in the oceans today
the thruster 69 long live kekistan
the thruster 69 Pepé?
Every time I see your video in my feed I automatically turn off the lights and get popcorn
Didn’t expect to see you here fellow stop motioner!
Could you make a video about plants evolution. I'm just curious about and too damn lazy to look it up.
Imagine trying to introduce the idea of birds to aliens.
*points to human*
“What did that evolve from?”
- “apes”
*points to dog*
“What did that evolve from?”
- “wolves”
*points to birb*
“ what DID tHat EvolVe frOM??”
- “ Oh WhY of course GianT LiZARds”
Trey: The Breaker of Weak Minds
Creepy Closet So true, I love this channel!
Creepy Closet just found him and yeah he hits the facts hard.Love it.
Hell yeah!!!!
Everything he says about fossilisation is wrong as well as large scavengers there are small scavengers and microbes that will devour the animal, that is way we don't see fossils forming in the mass numbers today, if at all. Fossils must form instantly yet they are not rear we have massages of them, even of things like soft tissue jelly fish.
@@faithtruth8036 no he is still correct. We literally find fossils every day. For some species like jellyfish it is harder to find because of them not having any bones but for something like the coelecanth, we found fossils AFTER discovering live specimens. Meaning that those fossils always existed but we hadn't found them at the time
Trey, i realy want you to make a video that corrects the inaccuracies of Far Cry Primal
I really want Ubisuck to correct the existence of Far Cry Primal.
And Far Cry 5.
And Far Cry New Dawn.
Why are people so obsessed with dinosaurs surviving? They actually did: birds
It's cool that I stumbled upon this video just a couple weeks after that new study being published everywhere discovered that the coelacanth did evolve atleast somewhat over it's history. It's cool to see
How dare you to say such things! How dare you to even try to shake my faith?! My faith in Darth Vader existance! XD
Awesome vid, man. Keep up your great, inspiring work )))
yayy welcome back Trey!!! i only just started watching ur vids but man paleo stuff is more interesting than i gave it credit for
Thank you! It's great to be back. Yeah, I'm happy to see others just as interested in it as me, the study is very fascinating
+TREY the Explainer love the vid. also I'm giving a speech on paleontology any tips?
TREY the Explainer no it isn't, also you scared me I didn't expect a reply.
Thanks man! What I love most about paleontology is the fact it is very much like history; you are able to see the grand picture, but also see the everyday lifestyles of individuals. Big Al the Allosaurus died of a foot infection likely trying to catch prey, other dinosaurs died of brain cancer, some animals are found right next to their young showing they cared deeply about them. Paleontology is as much about personal stories from ancient relatives as it is about knowledge and research.
TREY the Explainer and the allo that got the worlds (probably first ever) nut shot by a stego.
I thought the lack of fossils for coelacanth was caused by the freshwater varieties being displaced by ray finned fish.
Deep water fish might be as easily fossilized as river or shallow ocean fish, but the fossils are much less likely to be discovered.
I love how when people bring up Creationism, they’re usually Christian, Muslim, or some other newer religion.
Meanwhile the Jews, Hindus, and Buddhists are like, “Shhhh, you poor thing…”
Then the pagans vibing in the corner with their *P I N K S A L T*
Jews are mostly quiet about judaism, converting people is actually disapproved.
You also don’t need to believe in judaism to go to heaven, you just need to be a decent person.
You know shit gets serious when Trey threatens to talk about Darth Vader twice!
XD
Have you ever done a video about the austroraptor?! because i cant find a video about it? or will you not do a video about it?
Lmao remember when 2 people went to a island for almost a year to disprove evolution and ended up watching a new species evolve in front of their eyes
They didn’t go there as creationists, it’s just the best science in support of a hypothesis is done when trying to reject said hypothesis. They fully intended to prove that evolution can happen in minor but noticeable ways within a short amount of time.
17:47
Trey: I plan to talk about islands
Ducks in the background: Let’s go boys
I go to a Catholic school, and even we learned evolution in fourth grade! Who even believes in creationism nowadays anyways?
An unfortunate amount of people. Some are brainwashed and dumb (Ken Ham), and others are just simply brainwashed.
My favorite living fossil is marble. It’s been around since the beginning of the world and still hasn’t evolved one bit.
"My humble straw man". Damn, TREY, let 'em have it.
XD
I really love these informative videos. They are slightly mocking and funny but not so much that it becomes the focus. They also do a good job of explaining both sides of the debate fairly
"Living fossils prove humans existed alongside dinos."
"What about the countless ancestors of humans that _just_ started popping up long AFTER dinos?"
i made a school asignment about how evolution didnt happen a few months ago. so i wrote all the stuff you said about the creationists while knowing its fake. maybe i should go to other schools
Nobody is saying that there aren’t undiscovered creatures or creatures from the past that slipped through. That’s pretty universally agreed upon. The problem with stuff like Dinosuars and cryptids being around is... well... their size and needs. The megafauna Dinosuars were all large in size and had to subsist on large quantities of food. At this point, in this day and age, we would’ve found something. A corpse, droppings, more recent bones, some scrap of evidence to show they died sooner than we thought or may still be around.
The United States is 95% unexplored... but that statistic is in accordance to, from what I can tell, international tourism. Not that it’s totally undocumented, just that most people don’t actively choose to go out there. But that doesn’t mean people flat out don’t go looking for stuff. If these creatures do exist in our ever shrinking world, and continue to have a breeding population, then we would’ve found something, anything of these beast. And there’s another problem...
The world they live in isn’t the Mesozoic anymore. It’s a completely new environment with new creatures and new sources of food. The sizes they were can’t be supported. The forms they had would need to change and adapt. If non avian Dinosuars or the like do still exist... it’s not gonna look like a T-Rex or Brachiosaur. It’ll be some brand new kick ass creature.
Eeeeee
T-rex is avian dinosaurs
yay! i've been binging your videos since i found your channel earlier this week. Your logical arguments, facts, and sarcasm make me happy. XD
ive never understood creationists using the bible nor with dinos living together. God's "days" in the bible could easily be representative of millions or billions of years. a belief in evolution is perfectly compatible, in my opinion, with religion.
I mean, hell, most religious scholars split the bible into Mythos, Legends, and History. Genesis is Mythos (closer to Zeus), David and Goliath is Legend (closer to king Arthur; there was a Jewish king david), and Jesus is Historical (e.g. non-religious sources prove he existed)
and for muslim creationists its simply mixing the error-ridden English/Arabic biblical books mixing on with God/Allah's book of the Qur'an. most of the Qur'an is religious advice and human stories.
Yes it is
Anyways becareful if there are Muslim creationist see your comment
I see a lot of them are very toxic
. ___ .
If there even WAS a species of thought extinct dinosaur living on earth, it wouldn't be a massive plesiosaur or tyrannosaur, it would half to be something super small and super quick, to be able to adapt to smaller prey and to hide from human eyes for so long.
So birds
Lungfish are living fossils too.
I grew up as a Dino kid in a creationist family. The problem with people arguing using broken logic is that they will blatently disregard any fact that flies in the face of what they believe. Therefore you can never convince them. Much love! Thanks for your content.
2:50 Because I was born when Freddy Mercury still alive, Freddy Mercury is also still alive somewhere.
Off topic but thank you for having Peridot at 16:41 love that
I believe that Coelacanth haven't evolved because it doesn't need to evolve it's built perfectly to its environment and I wrote it his before Trey said it i promise
I agree with you
Well you you were close to what Trey said, as these forms like coelacanths have indeed evolved, just not very fast, because they did not need to in their environment niche. That was also about what Trey said.
Not to mention natural selection is purely a reactive force. If the environment that an animal is specialized to hasn't changed, then there's no pressure.
Tareltonlives - True.
The Angry Gameing Banana nope. Turns out they were not cause it turns out the living coelacanths are last surviving members of a once diverse group of fishes which not only lives in deep sea but also on shallow sea, brackish and even in rivers.
I have a story about someone questioning evolution. I had a nice respectful conversation with my uncle about how giraffes evolved long necks over time. He didn't bring up his religion in the topic, but he wanted to point out how strange it was that a species, such as those long-necked antelopes that serve as giraffe ancestors, could be driven out by a mutation such as long necks. He didn't believe the selective pressure could be strong enough to do that. And he was right! It wasn't exactly a swift transition, where the s. major species before giraffes was around 6 million years ago, modern giraffes didn't show up until 1 million years ago. We had tons of transitional fossils of giraffes, and there is a multitude of genuses that I had no idea about. Thanks to him, I discovered so much about Giraffidae! I love it when people ask these kinds of questions, and bring up the holes with evolution. It's good that people don't just accept it, but are open to it and continue asking questions. A silly amateur biologist like me often gets too complacent with evolution. That conversation was so refreshing to me, and I hope I was able to give him something to think about too. I hope to have more like it.
Coelacanths do not disprove evolution but look flipping awesome
Great vid. Though technically it's incorrect to say that dinosaurs went extinct after the K/Pg boundry. Because we do live together with dinosaurs to this day. Namely, birds. As they are a subset of Theropod dinosaurs. Dinosaurs never went extinct. Only Ornithisichians did.
Though perhaps that would have been too much information for this one video.
Love it!
So now when are you going to do the several theories of what killed the dinosaurs? I know the asteroid played a factor, but they're also many factors behind it.
TheyTheExplainer!
Awesome! Happy you enjoyed it ;)
Oh man, I've been working on that video for probably around a year now just trying to figure out how to approach it. I will definitely make one in the not so distant future
TREY the Explainer thank you for putting my nation in the video, the Coelacanth Nation.
XD problem your highness
So there will be mention of the Deccan traps?
I think volcanic activity played an important role, with high CO2 levels and acidic gases especially at the ground. The eggs of avian dinosaurs which nested up in the trees were protected from suffocation and acids that would attack the eggshells. Whereas, non-avian dinosaurs had their nests at the ground with fairly no protection. The crocodilia that survived maybe due to the point that they already laid their eggs in molds covered with layers of sand. Just some thoughts from me. It still doesn't explain why pterosaurs died out unless they also had their nest sites at the ground and not at an elevated spot.
I expected a video that gives an in-depth look at all, or the most prominent, species generally considered "living fossils".
Instead I got an essay on creationism and cryptids.
Both of these are in the title
Yeah Mista Trey! Yeah science!
I like how people constantly search for a way to prove humans and dinosaurs coexisted simply because it would've been dope and dinosaurs look cool.
Before I die me and my friends are gonna get tusk implants and all die in a cave together to confuse future archeologists
The idea of dicynodonts surviving into the Cretaceous period was really exciting for me, but unfortunately a study released a few years after this video seems to confirm that it was a mistakenly identified diprotodontid fossil