How to Move to the UK After 2020 | Post-Brexit Immigration
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2024
- The UK Home Office have officially released an update on how EU and non-EU migration will change after 2020 when free movement ends. What does it all mean? How can one move to the UK after 2020? Let's dive in!
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"News article the government put out themselves", it's called a press release Evan...
Yeah I noticed I said that in the edit but I CARRIED ON 😅
Evan Edinger i don’t think you should hide this fact in the comments. I think you need to make it clear in the description or a pinned comment.
@@evan but were you calm while you carried on?
At least "news articles the government put out themselves" is self-explanatory, unlike "press release". This does help people who aren't as well versed in English.
No need for the condescendence.
I'm sitting here in South Africa and i cannot wait to move to England. I had a university exchange there for half a year and made so much friends for life. I will move there permanently. It will be hard, but i will accomplish it.
Good luck
you got it.
And wish to move to South Africa 🇿🇦 temporarily
I hope all works out for you
I want to as well in about half a year but it seems very confusing, especially about paying tax for personal goods....
Me born in the uk: very interesting and very useful
Marry moi
you won the lottery my friend
@@dhaferbenmimoun7050 me a Brit: are you SURE about that?
@@luigiwoo4469 as someone from third world country i confirm that yes you have won the lottery to be born in uk. Corruption, poverty , moral balance and intolerance is thriving in my country and i want to leave as soon as possible before i lose my life or anyone of i care about.
@@bendover-bz4bc sorry to hear that. I am aware of how lucky I am I was just making a very British joke.
I hope your immigration plans go well, any nation would be lucky to have you :)
From what I understand, after 2020 university international students will now actually have 2 years to find sponsored employment, not just 3 months.
Wow that’s amazing! Toughest 3 months of my migrant life we’re trying to snag a sponsor after graduation
One silver lining. My girlfriend was destroyed by the stress of having to find a job in 3 months. Bear I'm mind jobs that will sponsor a visa are pretty damn rare, and plenty of places turned her away once she applied or even added an extra line to the job description after she'd been turned away. Perfect example of how little the average UK person knows or cares about expats who aren't from the EU or people who need visas.
Spencer Walther
No. Who is going to support them? If you think the taxpayer will allow this, you’re crazy.
@@6thi874 I have to disagree with you here because I am pretty sure that people can still support themselves on wages lower than Visa thresholds demand... I have done for the majority of my working life, I still don't earn a fortune but support myself just fine.
One of my good friend's partners (now husband) is from the US and after completing a Masters in the UK could not find a job with a high enough income, it was around £35K if I am not mistaken, that's insultingly high! Neither of them now live in the UK because they couldn't feasibly acquire the necessary VISA in time, it will most likely take them year's to get to the required situation.
Unfortunately, I don't believe any changes to immigration legislation post-Brexit are going to have any benefit to the big picture, this country still under appreciates immigrants, especially low skilled workers who do a lot of work which UK nationals wouldn't dream of doing.
Lewi Jinks
It doesn’t matter if you disagree or not. Those, are the RULES. The Laws of the land.
It’s not for you, to decide whether they apply to you, or not.
The rules DO apply to you.
You’re not special.
This topic has me bothered since Brexit was first being talked about. I always planned to finish university in Germany and move to the UK right after which would be this summer.
Thanks for this video!
It's not gonna be that easy anymore.
@@VAMPIREBoyTHEBloodyMinecraft Well, as long as you get in before December (which they are) you'll be fine.
same :)
Zack E why?
am I a joke to you? He is being racist
It’s difficult to hear that basically your dream will never happen
I’m so sad I can’t even cry ...
Mr Odia2 scumbag scammer
Same here
Exactly what if I’m a musician and I want to work as a sale assistant or waiter in a restaurant and when I have free time I can focus on my music and my dreams of being a musician in London?
Your dream is to live in the UK? For real? Why? It's not doing so well anymore. It's on a decline.
The EU settlement scheme wasn't free initially, the fee was scrapped after pressure.
The proposal is only a "white Paper" I think a lot will change when it comes before Parliment as a Bill and then through the Committe stage and The House of Lords. Very few Goverment Bills escape unchanged in some way or other.
Alex Wright
Yes so instead of the applicants paying a few quid, the British taxpayer picked up the bill.
Nice.
And you wonder why there is an hostile environment for migrants in the UK.
Yellow Bic
You hard faced fucker.
Everyone in my family has paid into the NHS for FIVE GENERATIONS, since the NHS started.
Court? Why would I go to court?
There is no legal aid now. Legal advice is not and never has been free.
Besides, my Great Grandfather, Grandfather, two uncles, one aunt and my own father died for this country in wars. Against EUROPEAN Continentals.
Yeah. We love immigration. 🖕🏼
Ass
Stef
Sure you have.
You come here, pay a bit of tax, claim tax credits or other benefits and/or benefits scams, then you block up our hospitals having babies and demanding millions of pounds worth of medical treatments.
Good job.
Your taxes wouldn’t pay for a terms schooling. You use the roads, bins, busses, trains, utilities and housing don’t you?
If six million people buggered off back home, maybe we, the British, could actually get a doctors appointment.
Cheerio.
Stef
Not to mention all of those EU citizens DARING to try to overthrow a British Referendum result.
It was none of your damn business. The vote was by the British, for the British, and Great Britain WON.
How dare foreigners get involved?
Feet way too far under our tables. The welcome mat has been put away.
Evan: It's not so bad!! You only need a PhD!
Also Evan: 70% of people who came to the UK before 2004 would not be eligible.
lol.
@Dale Gribble do you have a PhD Dale?
@Dale Gribble what does this mean? this sentence is indecipherable
sarcasm
@Dale Gribble would you like to have meet the rules on this new 'points' based system,? Do you earn over £25.600, do you have a PhD? Are you the very top of your field of work in a STEM subject that is backed up by leading professionals?
It’s a troll, just stop engaging. Cmon guys.
I am a UK citizen, but if I wasn't I wouldn't qualify to live here despite me having a specialised 'career' job in a sector that is a healthy contributor to the UK economy. 25k is a high wage in a lot of key industries and a PHD is pretty exclusionary to most. The loss of freedom of movement with the EU makes my heart hurt.
Same. My entire Brit family doesn't meet the 70 points requirement checklist.
@JB Markowicz Why are you glad?
@JB Markowicz Geez, It's always nice to generalize a whole population of people.
@JB Markowicz Please stop. Unless you've somehow managed to go out and meet "all the British" (who are most likely descended from immigrants at some point in history so not really that "British" after all), the comments you're making hold no sway here.
Your generalisations are sweeping, prejudiced and frankly quite hurtful :)
JB Markowicz personally someone who wanted to remain in the EU and I don’t buy into the anti-immigration scepticism, but every country has an immigration policy. It doesn’t mean the economy will plummet
Well done Evan. This video is very good and really does highlight some of the pros and cons of the new system. Every single article I read online from various news outlets had their own particular slant on this, depending on the political leaning of the publication.
These videos are the reason I quickly subscribed. You are incredibly likeable, thoroughly entertaining, and incredibly informative in a fun way. As a UK citizen, you're able to teach me about my country, America, and the fun comparisons between the two. One of the greats, and one of my favourites! Such an underappreciated and underrated RUclipsr, one of only a select few keeping me watching the platform!
Damn that’s very kind! Thanks! I’ve got a big series I’m working on for Q2 I hope ya like too! :)
"£16 pounds for biometrics!"
*laughs in $85 biometrics*
*Everyone in 2019:* pfffft Brexit will never happen it'll be a stalling game for the rest of time
*official Brexit announcement happens Jan 31st 2020*
*Everyone in 2020:* surprisedpikachuface.jpg
I had faith 🇬🇧🤗🇬🇧🥳🇬🇧
but it actually didn t happen. everything is the same
Except now there's an entire year's worth of transition period where nothing actually happens
(edit: I'm kinda happy about this. If we lose the chance to veto EU laws for a year we might actually get decent paternity leave/ working conditions for our doctors)
The only thing that has changed currently is that all the MEPs we had in the European parliament have now left, we still currently have to abide by all the previous and any new European laws/rules until a deal has been signed and agreed as we are now in the transition period. UK is now nothing but a sitting duck while leaders run around trying to make arrangements.
@@gohfi ok ok so it was ANNOUNCED to be offical in Jan 2020 lol
Thank you, Evan, for explaining this in words that I understand.
I don't live in the UK, but I've been curious, so thank you for explaining.
I love this video because it puts people’s minds at ease as you have went through it and you are very educated through personal experience and research!
this was a fascinating watch! i never knew a lot of this, really interesting info evan!
Always nice to see an objective view on these things, great vid :D
Thanks for clearing up any confusion about moving to the UK after Brexit. As a fellow South Jersey native, I have always wondered what it's like to move to the UK. I think London is a magnificent city, but I know now that there are good and bad things about living in London after watching your pros and cons of living in London video. Thanks again and have a great day!
Wow, this video was very helpful, will most definitely be using this in my modern studies assignment, great video Evan x
I love how you explained this whole thing! im panamanian ( From Panama and my native language is Spanish... however, i studied/lived in uk for a few months) . I love uk so much, that i might put all my savings and try to move permanently this year after the pandemic. Thank you for the videos 👏🏻💃🏻
The salary threshold does not take into account that salaries in, for example, NI are way lower than England.
Raffaela E Rubbish if you work for a British company or even the Civil Service your salary is the same. Teachers also start on the same pay grade.
@@letitiakearney2423 yes, but what about the private sector? Anyway... It will be interesting to see how they will fill the gap for the low skilled jobs.
The Civil Service has a London weighting, and a lot of de facto public sector employment is through agencies.
Academies don't always pay teachers very much either.
@Kim Bardgett The number of people not working are students, parents/carers, pensioners and people on benefits. Not all people on benefits are cheating the system but you cannot really force people to do a job they are not cut out for. Forcing someone with zero empathy to become a carer is not the solution. Sure, some might go back into the workforce but if someone has a degree I doubt they will go pick fruit and veg.
@Kim Bardgett so you mean that the attitude of a whole generation needs to change. Sure I agree with that. The welfare system in the UK created the problem in the first place. Thankfully there was freedom of movement. It will be interesting to see how it will work without it.
I just want to get out of the us. Kinda hard to do that having a work limiting disability :/
Yes, the most interesting video on RUclips! How did you know what I was waiting for, Evan? 😂
That actually reassured me so much, thank you!
I think, from what I’ve read, it seems like a pretty good system, and although everything has its flaws (as a UK citizen), I believe it will benefit us quite a bit.
Interestingly from what I’ve read they aren’t changing the Visa I’m on. I am an Australian living in the UK on an Ancestral Visa. It has 3 requirements. Be 18, be a commonwealth citizen, and have at least 1 grandparent be born in the UK it gives you unrestricted working and studying capabilities in the UK for 5 years.
I don’t know how I feel about these changes I think no matter what the UK will now struggle to get skilled European workers because they have so many easier options.
I'm really jealous of people who can get this VISA. I would have to go back to great great grand parents to find a UK citizen.
@@jwb52z9 they should expand it to include great grandparents.
If your Australian then you should recognise the points system because it is based on the Australian Points Immigration system.
This was so useful, you made it so easy to understand. Thank you!
On that 70% figure, based on the median income and growth of insecure employment it's likely most British citizens wouldn't qualify to live here if they had to apply under this new system either.
That’s the fucking point of controlled immigration you twat, it’s meant to restrict the amount of people that come into the country, so only SKILLED immigration is allowed, if most people in the U.K. who aren’t in skilled labour (as this is where there is a shortage, hence the immigration policy) it would defeat the whole fucking purpose of the immigration policy, what is so hard to understand?
Except they're British, so it's their birthright 🤷♂️
Your Friend If unskilled workers “stole” your jobs, imagine what the skilled ones will do lol, lazy Brits
The British are Britain's problem. Foreigners need to add value or not come.
@@eldorado6332 The British aren't lazy, but there needs to be jobs for them that aren't being undercut by people who who will fit 20 of them in one house.
I was almost given pre-settled status even though I've been in the UK for over 18 years now. I just had to submit extra documents and then I was given a settled status. It's a good thing that we have this scheme because I don't wanna go back 😅
That sounds like typical Home Office incompetence and/or sadism from what I've been hearing.
@@alexwright4930 Incompetance sounds about right.
Same happened to me, but it's almost 10 years for me now and I just gave up, I guess that'll do and then I get an email about getting a settled status, idk what happened, happy to have it done ^^
Both me and my dad easily got settled status but my mum had to send in a ton more different documents to not get pre settled status even though we’ve all been living here for 13 years. Although the eu settlement scheme is a pretty good thing it still could be improved so much
@@alexwright4930 It's an automated system, it has to be when it's dealing with millions of applications, there are always going to be erroneous results because they can't have programmed in every possible eventuality. It was a bit silly that the system assumed no-one would be over 100 though, like with the Italian guy who was born in 1919 and seen by the system as a 1 year old child.
This system DOESN’T take into account those low skilled workers who come to the uk to do jobs that most drifts DON’T want to do. Yes there are job’s out there that almost all the employees are foreigners- job’s that most brits would turn their nose up at. Such as working on farms. They will need to add these to their shortage jobs list in the future otherwise these things could struggle. Not all farm jobs can be automated. Some fruit /veg has to be picked by hand as it is too delicate to have a machine do it or machines wouldn’t work in amongst certain plants etc. So this system although good for bringing more jobs to brits in the future also will put businesses out of businesses and could cause problems unless they create a shortages list where unneeded low skilled jobs get exceptions and so extra points.
Of course it does not. Do you really think the Tories want low skill workers coming from eastern Europe. Of course they don't. They Tories hope the poor Brits do all these low paid jobs while they they take away their workers rights.
The British need low skilled jobs too moron, all this means is less unemployment and higher salaries for British people. I agree, it sucks for people in less developed countries but it is NOT our job to sort out their problems, it is the job of their governments.
@MrStephen182 what’s wrong with unemployed people doing low paid jobs? Everyone starts somewhere ? I don’t think you’re able to contribute to this discussion at hand you seem to post anti-Tory comments rather than offering any substance to the discussions at hand and yes this is coming from someone who voted Green Party, before you go off on an ad hominem rant.
@@moonshot9056 Plenty of jobs are already shortage but not on the shortage list. Why is that...? It's a political statement not a serious policy based on economic need.
Who wouldn't "turn their nose up" at a job that pays minimum wage for only one season a year??
You can't build a career on doing farm work for a few months and being unemployed the rest of the year.
Your state requires season workers for seasonal work.
This video was really interesting! Admittedly, I hadn’t read the government document, I’d mainly just seen the headlines, and the two sectors that, as far as I know, will potentially suffer from the changes (because of the view the government has that the highest paid jobs are the most skilled) are health/social care and agriculture. As someone from a rural area of the UK, we know that the farms would potentially not survive without the EU citizens that come for seasonal work. That is not going to be above the pay threshold or require qualifications, so unless farms manage to recruit enough British people they just won’t have enough people to do the work. The same with social carers, a large percentage of whom are also EU citizens who would face the exact same problem. This system (like government proposals in general) appears to have a bias towards people moving to London (who will automatically be paid more due to the higher cost of living) and those entering into either corporate jobs, research, or academia: pretty much the only jobs that would require a PHD. I hope some more nuance is added into the system when they flesh it out a bit more, because it could end up actually being not too bad, like you said, but I think a lot of British people find it hard to not be cynical about the government - particularly about Boris...
Lexa Fox I think this could be good for the people working in the care and farming sectors as employers now will have to increase their wages or offer more benefits if they want to keep hold of these workers, or invest in technology to increase their productivity which should be good for the economy as a whole. I would like to see smaller salary thresholds for jobs outside of London to make those areas more competitive and reduce the strain on services in the capital.
Well actually I know there are initiatives in place to get more people up north! For tier 1 specifically :)
Farm workers might be part of the in demand work section?
The government did mention some kind of seasonal agricultural work scheme in passing I think.
Or I suppose it's possible we'll in practice end up like the United States where apparently a lot of the agricultural sector relies on people working illegally?
I ve heard in the news that seasonal agricultural work will be an exception.
Why am I watching this , I'm British 😂
Paddle On Drew Well aren’t you lucky....
Paddle On Drew ahahaha why dont you marry with me 😂😂
@@xhuljavlora5544 I knew I would find my Albanians here 😂
Lucky ppl
@@hawk6856 where are you from?
Never been this early for a vid before!~
As a student who just got accepted into a bfa program in the UK this was super helpful! I’ll be moving in the fall, and I’m seriously hoping to get a tier two visa once I graduate. The only thing that scares me is that the profession I want to go into is freelance based. Do you think you’d be able to go into more detail about how you work as a freelance artist in the UK?
Thanks so much!
How is life now? Are you in the UK?
as someone who wants to eventually move and go to school in the UK, this is very helpful. thank you evan!! ♥️♥️♥️
How old are you? same here i want to go to uni there :(
@@elifdemircan1061 where do/did you study at university now?
Thanks mate! A very cool video:))
As several people pointed out, most jobs at the NHS are under 25k, but they want 20.000 new nurses.Where should they come from?
I'm pretty sure that nurses would be included as a designated shortage occupation.
@@ev-l you would hope so
I know several nurses. They are making more than 25k in a town in the midlands not london. I would imagine the vast majority of nurses are on more than 25k
@@Sean-tn5nv starting wage is under, NHS shared that on twitter
@@librasgirl08 Yeah just googled. the basic falls a few hundred under for new nurses. they make a lot in overtime and bank shifts though I doubt this counts as its not base salary. A couple of years experience and they should be good though.
£25k is an established wage in most site engineering / site investigation roles outside London. My first job post grad (bearing in mind I have a masters degree...) paid £14k. That was in 2011 but it took me a long time before I worked my way up past £25k.
That’s your problem, there are 18 year olds doing apprenticeships earning more than that, you just got scammed.
@@josephnicholsonI mean not quite, the national apprenticeship wage works out at about £8k a year however I get your point. I've found it's the same story in Ecology and Geotechnical roles (amongst others). All require degree level education but you're out working long hours in the field for less money than site staff with a few years experience out of school. At least once you're up and running you've got slightly (though not much!) greater career prospects.(edit, I checked the national apprenticeship wage)
@@josephnicholson Not very many at all.
This was a very interesting video Evan and I leant something today thank you. You always upload very interesting videos and I in joy them but fantastic video Evan and I can't wait for you to become a British citizen
Very interesting channel. I am born and bred in the UK. You’ve got yourself a new sub. 😁
I'm glad that you have taken an impartial stance on the proposed immigration plans Evan! I appreciate everyone has their own opinions and it's such a shame that everyone is in such a divided state over brexit still despite it being in the final stages.
I honestly do hope that the changes in immigration system are for the better. I would like to think that companies start to take better care of their uk employees and consider giving more people a chance by putting more into training and assisting less experienced workers to develop their skills whilst also making it easier for non-EU citizens to live and work here :)
This is kinda silly but my mum is TEFL (teaching english as a foreign language) teacher in Ireland. She is quite happy, the harder it is for people to come into Britain, the more business for her sector.
Yeah Irish universities are definitely gonna get a lot more demand from EEA/Swiss citizens who want to study in an Anglophone country now.
Love your videos man. I'm also a migrant living in London and your videos are super useful ! Gucci
You always make intriguing videos keep it up
It is horrible how the government rhetoric is to blame the EU systems, (which we voluntarily joined) as there were more stringent immigration rules available to the UK whilst in the EU, which we didn't subscribe to, which countries like the Netherlands use... The blame game is what is so sad about the whole thing, either way the UK has to live with it's choice now, no more blaming something else and we'll see how it goes...
Ali Mudd The UK had no control over EU nationals coming to live in the UK. While many are good for the UK economy many were not, they suppressed wages, contributed little and were and are a burden on the UK
@@MrRawMonkey that is because we choose not to. The regulation's of the EU allow more control over the free movement of people than the UK ever used, EU citizens were free to come to the UK as we are free to go to EU, but the length of stay can be controlled much more dramatically than the UK implemented. For example one such regulation, that the Netherlands, Belgium and Italy uses, is, if a person travels to your country and is not in full time employment within 3 months you can deport them. They use this to repatriate thousands of people each year, but this is not well known by the British people
"“Where admission is permitted, an EU citizen may remain in the UK for up to three months from the date of entry, provided they do not become a burden on the social assistance system of the UK.
If an EU citizen does not meet one of the requirements for residence set out in the Directive [employed, self-employed, self-sufficient, student] then they will not have a right to reside in the UK and may be removed.”
The Free Movement Directive
@@MrRawMonkey not to mention the fact:
"Each EU migrant, on average, contributes £2,300 more to the exchequer than the average British-born adult, supporting not just themselves but others who rely on the NHS and the UK welfare system."
And considering there are members of my family who are these EU migrants, contributing a lot more than some British people it's insulting to suggest they are a drain. People do not move their entire lives, leave their friends and family and try to integrate into a whole new culture in order to take advantage, they are here to make a life and a living, and broadly, they do!
@@almudd they might contribute £2,300 more, but they are still a net defecit of £0.3 billion. Context is important.
@@leighduxbury3864 how is that the case? Can you copy your sources please
home office: well, when we were in the EU we had to make it awful for non-EU citizens bc of free movement. now we get to make it awful for everyone!
Exactly.
Except it's more they chose to make it awful for non EEA/Swiss citizens and weren't allowed to for EEA/Swiss migrants.
Now the Home Office is free to treat everyone like crap, except the Irish.
By "awful for everyone" do you mean "in line with literally every country not in the EU"?
@@matthewevans5486 uh yeah that's exactly what I said. not sure what you're getting at tbh.
@@AJ-uo5zl just checking
@@alexwright4930 "except the Irish"
Baby steps!
Very informative thanks 👍🏻
I recently (as in yesterday) migrated over on a UK ancestry visa and all I can say is thank goodness I had that option as meeting the minimum salary range for my line of work is very difficult! This is even after I completed my masters in the UK last year on a tier 4 visa! Unfortunately, it is quite difficult going through the tier 2 visa route depending on your career.
hey Eryn, my mum's considering moving to the UK on an ancestry Visa soon - is there anything you wish you'd known before you started the application? any tips/good things to know? thanks x
I did my law degree on a tier 4 visa, and couldn't find a job that meet the criteria (mostly the sponsorship) so I just went back to america. I'll take my educated butt and pay taxes elsewhere! hahaha
Dom Yates I recently graduated so I had no issue proving my intent to work, that may be a difficulty for others. Other than that, they don’t specify the financial requirements which is quite frustrating. Ohhh and it is very expensive.
@@AJ-uo5zl
That's expected though. It's shitty, but there's so many people who do law degrees here that it's really difficult for most people to find a job in law because it's so competitive. If an employer could choose between two people of the same degree, one of which was a uk citizen and the other you had to go to the extra effort of sponsoring, you would go with the most convenient option unless there were exceptional circumstances that make the extra effort worth it.
I always found the "everyone's going to get deported if you vote for brexit" stuff kind of hilarious, like "bold of you to assume that the British government could actually organise itself enough to deport large portions of the population within the next millenia"
There are many aspects of the current immigration process that is a pain to deal with and I'm hoping that this new process would improve this. I'm a non EU citizen on a tier 2 work visa and the company that hired me spent around a few thousand pounds for the visa sponsorship process and on top of that they have a small and limited quota of work visas they can sponsor each year.
All these barriers currently make it really difficult to get a job. Most companies only see it to be worth the hassle of spending thousands of pounds, and using up their limited quota if they're hiring for senior level roles, unless you happen to be really lucky like me.
If the new system doesn't make it cheaper or get rid of visa quotas for each company, lowering the salary requirements isn't going to do that much as companies will only want to sponsor really senior roles anyway, making the salary threshold meaningless.
I'm lucky enough to be a dual citizen of the US and UK and am attempting to obtain citizenship in Ireland. For me, my concerns lie with not being able to travel freely in the EU anymore. I want to work in the global sector for the environment and now the hoops to jump through to do so is unreal. Something you'll come to experience Evan if/when you get a UK citizenship, if you keep your US one every single country wants to check both. When I tried to renew my British passport I couldn't because my US one had expired (the renewal process is dreadful in the US). Now when I apply for visas I have to do twice as much in order to get through. But it goes both ways, by the UK closing its border many people who many not be technically qualified but want to come make a life here will be deterred. It's a shame but it's going to make work between countries difficult and will prohibit people who may just want to try and better their lives through other means of productivity to come here. I think there's a way of tightening immigration without completely bottlenecking the process but I just don't know what that is. Regardless very informative video and I hope more updates come out soon.
“ Not technically qualified”.
Aka, not qualified.
@@lesserspottedmugwump.363 Aka not having a job offer but having qualifications and ecperience in a shortage occupation( teachers, nurses for example)
Breanna Murtagh I worked for an American company based in the U.K. and travelled all over Europe, before the EU was established. Never had any issues or problems with it. Also travelled in USA & Canada without any issues. As a student I picked grapes every summer in France without problems. It will be fine.
I'm from Canada getting my MSc in Edinburgh, then off to London to get my PhD so I can stay! Love your videos. And yes, you ARE the fastest speaker on RUclips.
I got my BA in London but as an American I couldn’t stay in London (I wanted to) as I couldn’t find any jobs to meet the requirements to stay. I hope that now it’s changing I’ll be able to go back and work there.
@@Jennyeq oh fuck off.
Belén Vargas you fuck off the country is fucking full this island is meant to comfortably fit 50 million and the population keeps growing past 70 million, too densely populated.
or you could go somewhere that actually wants you! I did my law degree in the uk, but I'm taking my taxes somewhere that appreciates my educated a** lol
@@josephnicholson Utter rubbish
The UK is not full by any scientific or evidence based standard. That's just a stupid excuse to cover the fact that you dislike foreigners. Be honest.
I'm sure there's people who will be more than willing to employ you... What BA do you hold? I'd like to help if I can.
Excellent vid. What worries me is that the care industry, in which I work and which uses many immigrant workers, is amongst the poorest paid sector in the country. Our wages are pennies (literally) above national minimum and that's for UK born (as I am) and non-UK citizens. This means that, as workers change and up-grade their jobs, the pool quality will be diluted. I work along with three European people - they are exceptionally hard and dedicated workers but under the new arrangements they wouldn't be allowed in. Also, what hasn't been mentioned (I haven't read the press release used in this vid, so it may be there) is the 'London balance' - i.e., people who work in London get around 20% higher wages to cover the extra cost of living in the Capital, so shouldn't there be two sets of minimum wage requirements?
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Bla bla bla... And not a word about the most important facts, like the NHS /Care Sector, where min. 20% of the workers are overseas. Shame.
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Hey man ! Loved the video ! Super useful and you def made this boring immigration stuff interesting !
Is there a video you made about differences between applying before or after? I'm French but live in NL so wondering what that would really change for me....
Do they still have the requirement that a job must be advertised for 30 days before a non-EU resident can be considered?
This new immigration plan is going to be be devastating for the hospitality, construction, and care industry. A sad time for Brits who valued the rights to freely to live, love, and work across 30 other European countries without hindrance.
Businesses might actually have to raise wages to attract staff....heaven forbid you’re deprived of foreign slaves to cut your grass.
@@stevenpaddybwoy That is incredibly naive. They will not. They will pay the minimum wage whenever they can and nothing more. People are unwilling to work some of those jobs because they think they are beneath them, not because it doesn't pay what they want. The rhetoric was "our jobs have been stolen", not "we won't get paid enough for those jobs".
@@Mr0011011 right, so when people refuse to work for minimum wage, and businesses cannot get people to work for them anymore, what's going to happen?
@@Mr0011011 Then they'll shut down, and honestly fuck em. Bartender/waiter for 10 years and that industry is toxic, I've seen the budgets and profits from the East Anglia area for Stonegate, Revolution, and M & B, Fact is they make enough to pay their employees more; but they don't. So if a staff shortage is what it takes to get them to re think that then good. As an extreme example with numbers I know I worked at a building 5 bars over four floors; in their record week they made 160k, one of the days alone was 40k. The labour for that week was around 25k or ~15%. This is an extreme but labour budgets in the industry are around 20% depending on the area, when a site does well only the company profits the staff are left drained, Christmas kills. Site based overheads tend to be around the same 20%. Profit margins are around 60% Staff in that industry work on average. Management contracts are about 25k a year assistant, 30-35k management. Contracts are generally 48hours minimum with everyone I know in the industry pulling more and having at least a few 70+ hour weeks, contracts do not include overtime these extra hours are unpaid.
@junior "all that at the expense of our culture being completely diminished"
How exactly has EU membership diminished British culture? Go from the UK, to Italy, to Finland, to Portugal and you'll find a widely different array of culture.
" no meaningful role in the world whatsoever."
We had massive influence both in terms of a political level and a regulatory level in the EU. The UK had been the leading voice for Alanticism and free trade, and pushed hard for expansion and free movement. The EU would be unrecognisable without UK membership.
" the justification for all this free roaming bs was so that country’s could snatch low skilled workers from poor countries, not out of empathy or mutual respect for other European countries. plus everyone who has ever worked in construction in the uk knows that brits are most efficient at it."
The actual leaders of the construction industry have been telling the country that Brexit (and especially this form of hard Brexit with no FOM) will be very damaging.
I’m trying to be able to move to UK. I’m from US, and it is challenging. This was very helpful. Thanks for sharing.
This is so helpful since I am trying to immigrate there. My first step is doing school there which starts next week
As a UK citizen living in the EU, can confirm literally everything is on fire.
I think it'll get worse going towards Dec 31. Best of luck m8. Hope everything works out alright for you.
I'm studying in Germany at the moment (UK citizen) and it doesn't seem to bad? Just have to get a residence permit in the next year
Yeah they may round you up and put you in concentration camps OH NO or in the real world i can literally confirm the only thing that has changed for you is you may have to fill out a form for gods sake.
@@hbrown4637 Situation is different depending on which country you live in.
@@P.G.Wodelouse Thank you for telling ME how MY life is going xD get fucked
I’m planning on moving to Scotland for college so this really helped
Aoibh O brien hello wishing you all the best luck from Scotland do you know which uni you want to go to?
Photography _scenery_15 probably Edinburgh Napier
Aoibh O brien Edinburgh’s awesome what are you going to study?
me too! i was really worried that if i accept my offer i might not get a student visa but this video helped me soothe my fears a little bit
@@aoibhobrien1049 My mum teaches at Napier! It's a great uni, with loads of international students - and NONE of us wanted Brexit over in Scotland so hopefully we can fight it and make it easier for immigrants.
Hey Evan! I wondered how much you know about the U.S. work visa system? I work in digital marketing and have a Masters in Maths, but it seems like to make the reverse version of your move and get a job in the States is almost impossible and most job listings say they do not sponsor visas. Should I just give up?
this is comforting to hear... this brexit stuff has been stressing me out
It’s great to see someone provide a balanced view in light of all the Brexit chaos
@gohfi so your comment is to label a certain political perspective as the equivalent of being a flat earther. I’m assuming your own political perspective is that of the scientist, how very humble of you.
gohfi Your complete inability to comprehend the other side of the argument is only proving your ignorance. If you were a scientist, you’d be able to understand the complexity of the issue at hand.
chaos? says the foreigner, yeah
what w BS in this article :D Before skills people could easly come without paper work (now my IT friends prefer other placec without all that bs articles and papers) and UK need sooooo low skills people , too - to work on farms etc you waste so much products because there is no one to pick
Important to note that Irish citizens are still being treated nearly the same as British citizens under the Common Travel Area too. Edit: Oh I see you mentioned that.
Some lovely flowery language there to try and sell the removal of freedom of movement rights in the EEA and Switzerland (exc Ireland) from Brits and the removal of FOM rights in UK from Europeans as being "fairer", as though it was somehow Europeans' fault that the Home Office chose to be so nasty to everyone else in the world.
You say that As if free movement between countries is the norm? Can you name 3 non-EU countries that have something similar to the EUs freedom of movement policy?
Is it required that you register at your home address at your local city council in
the UK to qualify as being a resident of the UK if you are a EU-citizen and want
to qualify for pre-settled status in the UK? I hope not because I plan to rent only
a room in a shared house and I probably will move houses i.e. rooms quite
frequently too.
You’re the best for making this!
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Evan Edinger oh my gosh I love you. I didn’t think you’d reply!!
Won't lie this scares me, as a UK citizen, to see this kind of level of immigration restriction. Always thought of the UK as a country that accepts as many people in as possible but as I have grown up I have come to realise that it was not the case and there are many people who don't share my welcoming opinion.
your pic says it all
@JB Markowicz It's so ironic that you call us all disgusting, shortsighted, and narrow-minded whilst YOURSELF being shortsighted and narrow-minded by generalising an entire nation of people haha. Perhaps you should apply some critique to youself before levying it at others, hmm?
Cyfrin thank you. Someone with common sense
@@maurcy804 He is a troll, he is going through the comment section with the same bullshit comment, probably someone with a lot of time in their hands.
You should not be worried as if you watch the video or read the press release you will realise it is now easier for people to come from the rest of the world, there is no-one who with a tiny bit of effort can't pass this points now. if you like immigration this is better for you.
Thank you for such an objective view of the new system. The new system is significantly fairer and better than FOM. Looking forward to the other opportunities which lie ahead post Brexit!
No it's not. the U.K. is going to have a massive shortage of “low-skilled workers” (basically just less valued, still highly important) in 10-15 years time. Who do you think puts the food on your table? It's the low skilled workers that do the farm labour jobs from Eastern Europe that Brits don't wanna do.
@@MrStephen182 Completely disagree, British people are more than happy to do such jobs if they are paid a fair wage. For too long wages have been surpressed due to unskilled migrants from afar willing to work for a cheaper rate. I am more than happy paying slightly more for my food if the money is going to a British worker and not to a foreign migrant who will likely send the money back to his or her's home country.
Thanks for the video! Very well explained. As for your poll, no. They should give points for having a degree from the UK, shouldn't they? I'll be doing my Masters this year in London, will that mean nothing?
Thank you. This was helpful.
Glad it was helpful!
The zero fee is ironically actually an EU law. Max allowed charge is £50 so its easier to make it free than managing the invoicing.
UK native here. I hope the immigration system will be fairer as a result of this. I'm not sure of everything but it seems it may well be going by this video.
Thank you for your videos, very informative and helpful. I'm curious about how much it takes to live in the U.K, England specifically, both gross income and net. I'm also curious with regard to double taxation--if you are within the tax credit of +/-100k, do you then not owe any taxes to the U.S. (unless you fail to do the notifications about 10K in the bank, or sell a house abroad)? And, is it fiscally doable to buy a house as a regular expat, w/ U.K cost of living and house prices (would love info on real estate pricing, too--in cities like London, Cambridge, and smaller towns/country. Been seeing a lot of RUclipsr Brits restoring French buildings...
very helpful. thanks
I’m a non Eu immigrant in the UK and I really think this is a good change and makes it fair for the more skilled and deserving people to come from any part of world.
@@moonshot9056
Like it or not low skilled workers coming from abroad (less valued work, still highly important) are the backbone of the UK. There is going to be a shortage of them in 10 to 15 years time as British people don't wanna do the work they do. It is a long term disaster in the making. Those people who come from abroad to do low skill work (they are just happy to have a job) put in much more than they ever take out. The Brits will not do the low paid work they done (especially after their workers rights are slowly taken away by the Tories) after we told them all to fuck of and then the UK will find out just how much they miss them.
Being living in the UK for a couple months now, and getting jobs for family members, I think the 70% number is missleading.
My family members are working either in cleaning or as a caretaker, both those works get reported bellow the 20k pounds mark due to how bonus work / multiple companies wiring the same person.
And what I've found is 1: UK citizens DONT WANT to do those jobs. 2: companies only pay minimum amounts and so UK citizens (again) dont want to take those jobs
I think the criteria will change over time, in response to the needs of the economy. Also NHS will be a separate VISA scheme which will be fast tracked and very easy to navigate for those applying.
I’m wanting to apply for a civil partnership visa, but it says I have to live inside the UK for 2 years and I’m from outside the UK. Have they worded it differently?
As an American, this was fascinating to watch and learn about. That being said, I failed to see how saying that 70% of people that came before 2004 wouldn't qualify could be viewed as a positive. Then again when you pair that with the settled status thing, I guess it makes more sense. However, this could be bad because it cuts down the number of people going in, which might be the point... I mean you could argue that makes everyone happy. Where was I going with this?
They're trying to cut down on immigrants and make the UK an ethnostate.
Me:Okay this is great to learn when I become 18 to follow my dream
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Thank you for this great video. Would appreciate you posting more on how US Citizens can move and become employed in the U.K. I have only a general associates of arts degree, but with a strong desire to move to London. I have a hard time fully comprehending the steps I can take just through reading the U.K. government website, so it’s nice to hear you effectively communicate it in a video.
Peter S good to know thanks Peter!
You're going to need at least a Bachelors degree most likely. The UK doesn't even have or award Associate Degrees.
THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS! My husband and children are British but I am not. It's been so complicated trying to become British myself, almost impossible financially. You made this so clear for me!!
I don't see why it should be so complicated.
25 k is a ridiculous wage. Basically no one could Immigrate here to Wales on that wage.
That’s wrong, my dad earns like 160k and he works in Cardiff and we live in Bridgend, we don’t need immigrants who can’t speak English to work in McDonald’s which 18 year olds can do part time.
@K probably a petit bourgeoisie up and coming business man who thinks he is better than the common british prole.
This video is just seeing if my family, friends and myself make 70 points. So far none of us. And my parents who were immigrants not citizens wouldn't of been able to make it. Not even when my mum was a nurse did she make over 25000 or have a phd.
My friend from Europe wants to work here but she doesn't make over 25,000 or have a phd.
Hazelcrisp - I think they should of lowered the wage. It’s hard to make £25k . They should of gone for £23k. Not everyone lives in London. So this wages are hard to get.
@@jesskhan09 I would say lower personally. Maybe £18k, seeing as that what some UK graduates start off at
@@_scatterbrains 18K is minimum wage lol, that would mean any full-time job would meet this.
@@jesskhan09 That's the point. They want to restrict it, and that is the clearest and easiest way of doing it.
@@jesskhan09 I agree, I guess the plan could be that the economy would benefit from Brexit sooo much that the salaries would go up that much?
very good! thankyou
I lived in the UK from 2011-2015 on a Tier-2 ICT Visa (US Citizen). Am curious about self-sponsoring a return. Was there any language in the update about that? You didn't really comment on that very much (or perhaps I simply missed it). Cheers.
Thanks for this Evan, people need to look at the facts of this policy before they start scaremongering. The reality is that our previous policy was unfairly pro-european vs the rest of the world, What this does is bring Europe into line! Understandably people aren’t happy about it but that is what people voted for and it had to be respected.
No Views and 5 Likes... 3 times in 3 days! Also, If I could give multiple likes, I would for 'Migrate Aunt'.
Do you have a more current version of this vid on moving to uk in 2022?
I love your videos Evan. Can't wait for you to become a British citizen
I started learning German after seeing your "How to get fluent whit Duolingo." Thanks!
i'm not sure how some sectors are going to cope. Things like agriculture, building and nursing need lots of people but aren't high paying jobs. I would've said sectors like taxi driving too but this is heavily crowded as it stands!
Salaries will have to go up
70 points is easy to get as a nurse - the NHS will offer you the job thats 20 points you will be paid over £23,040 so that is another 10 points - speak decent English another 10 - nurses are classed as job shortage so another 20 and a basic PHD in a nursing role - is another 10 (20+10+10+20+10 = 70)
@K well im not gonna be having kids for a very long time so i don't need to worry about that. And a lot of work in the UK, high skilled or low skilled, is done by immigrants. This change in law affects everyone, including you
@@gohfi For the same reason they would want to now ?
@@gohfi Hey if you want to have a RUclips comment argument at least bring some facts or actual sentences rather than some random words that make no sense ttyvm
I'm an American that desperately wants to move to the UK in the next 10 years, so this video was very helpful. I have been a bit...worried...about Brexit but keep forgetting to look it up-
Your videos are great! Could you please do similar video about conditions to get the US green card? Maybe with some friend of yours that has experience with it? Thanks a lot! I'm looking forward to the next video
This video served as a reminder of how complicated being a human is.
Can I just never exit my room please?
NHS, civil service and agriculture which are some of the sectors most in need won't sponsor your visa and even if they would are unlikely to pay you more than 25600 which means you would need a PhD anyway. Now why would anyone with a PhD choose to work there? Am I wrong?
NasTheWild NHS is a totally different VISA scheme and it is fast tracked. This is for not specialised migration. There is also a separate VISA scheme for seasonal workers.
@@deirdrewalsh4177 It seems you are right there are different schemes. I did some research though and I came up on loads of barriers. For instance the visa application fee is quite hefty. More than a month's salary for many eastern European countries which is where most seasonal farm workers come from. And from my understanding that visa only lasts for 6 months and you still need to have a job waiting and be sponsored. So why would they choose to come to the UK then when they can just go to some other EU country for free with no hassle and constraints. For the NHS the process seems to be a bit more complicated and I'm still trying to figure it out
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very informative