The Uncon in Amsterdam was a genius manifestation of the "Great Melting Feast" from You. Many people have created their own mythologies, few actually made them come true.
i played with daevid. we had two rehearsals at my house then a gig as daevid allen and friends. it was an amazing experience that as a musician i wasnt ready for lol
2:40 to 5:07 [re: comparison with Magma] quite amazing. The same entity but opposite aspects. Dark/light sides. Yin/Yang. Mysticism vs. Occultism. Occultism being about control, mysticism about giving it up. This last point especially insightful. By contrast, Christian Vander, when asked the same question by this interviewer, avoided talking directly about Gong, said he didn't know the music, and went off into anecdotes about how musicians take influences from things very different from their own style. I rather wish Christian had engaged the question more directly, as Daevid did, as there is a deep connection but also a great distance between these bands that is fascinating.
From reading a ton of interviews, it seems Christian almost shields himself from acknowledging his influences (other than Coltrane, but of course he mentions that because he nearly committed suicide because of his death). Perhaps it's to preserve some sort of 'subconscious influence' to his music? There's another interview where he talks quite fondly of Gong but says something along the lines of 'they kind of imposed this duality, I never really saw it.' Same goes for yet another interview where he doesn't see the connection between Magma and Zappa. It could simply be a case of ego getting the best of him, but I think it's more along the lines of acknowledging like "yes, I have these influences, but naming them would diminish the intuitive nature of all of it" or something like that. Sorry if this kinda winds around, these are but musings haha
@@dimethaltryptamine1 Christian Vander is the main dude from Magma. My post was in response to a comment that specifically referred to the part of the video where Daevid talks about Magma. There is no need for all those question marks.
I am great Scott and I've met David Allen twice once in Santa Cruz California and once in San Francisco in San Francisco had 11 beer tab this guy Great Scott yeah!.
Daevid looked in ill health here. I suppose the dreaded cancer was doing its thing but just guessing. Daevid ethos probably felt that it was part of the cycle of life. He was blindingly good and very influential on Glam, Punk,Fusion, Art and Progressive rock scenes. Bowie, Cale,Wyatt,Ayers, Softies, Oldfield, and French rock are grateful to Daevid Allen.
3:01 "Magma seems like the shadow...the dark side" cue epic dark sound effect! Sounds like the horns of jericho...Did yous post-edit that in the video or was it just uncanny timing?
I met Daevid sometime in the mid 90s. After a whole parade a freaks and people who came to the show who never really heard them before and came because of the huge write up in the paper- we chatted and I mentioned Magma- he all of a sudden stopped in his tracks and the Pot Head Pixie got serious and told me some pretty messed up things about Vander. It both bummed me out and confirmed that what I sorta knew. But I never heard it from someone else.. but it came from someone with authority. I drove home with a lot of thoughts in my head… and I still remember him imitating Vander and he told me who Vander was imitating!
i think i know what you're getting at. Daevid was imitating Christian who was imitating Adolf? Sure, the 'rant' at the beginning of the 1989 MDK recording is aesthetically similar to an AH rant, just as Roger Waters' rants during The Wall's In The Flesh were. Lemmy wore an SS uniform as he thought it looked cool.
Håkon Struve Mmm sorry dude twas my first interview and even if he was one of the kindest chap I met, I was pretty intimidated by its presence... What question do you miss?
Ah Daevid, your light being illuminates millions of hearts with your creative wisdom even now beyond your physical form.
Daevid was definitely a mystic ! And a Great rebirth to you Daevid , where ever !
Wow, he comes across as such a sweet and kind individual. What a treasure.
Daevid Allen was aglow with joy, love & wisdom... what a beautiful, lovable, wonderful Hoomin Bean! xoxoxo
The Uncon in Amsterdam was a genius manifestation of the "Great Melting Feast" from You. Many people have created their own mythologies, few actually made them come true.
Quel Plaisir d'écouter Daevid ! Thanks you very very
Great interview. Ive met him myself a few times and he is a charming chap.
i played with daevid. we had two rehearsals at my house then a gig as daevid allen and friends. it was an amazing experience that as a musician i wasnt ready for lol
Daevid Allen est mort.
Vive Daevid Allen.
2:40 to 5:07 [re: comparison with Magma] quite amazing.
The same entity but opposite aspects. Dark/light sides. Yin/Yang. Mysticism vs. Occultism. Occultism being about control, mysticism about giving it up. This last point especially insightful.
By contrast, Christian Vander, when asked the same question by this interviewer, avoided talking directly about Gong, said he didn't know the music, and went off into anecdotes about how musicians take influences from things very different from their own style.
I rather wish Christian had engaged the question more directly, as Daevid did, as there is a deep connection but also a great distance between these bands that is fascinating.
From reading a ton of interviews, it seems Christian almost shields himself from acknowledging his influences (other than Coltrane, but of course he mentions that because he nearly committed suicide because of his death). Perhaps it's to preserve some sort of 'subconscious influence' to his music? There's another interview where he talks quite fondly of Gong but says something along the lines of 'they kind of imposed this duality, I never really saw it.' Same goes for yet another interview where he doesn't see the connection between Magma and Zappa.
It could simply be a case of ego getting the best of him, but I think it's more along the lines of acknowledging like "yes, I have these influences, but naming them would diminish the intuitive nature of all of it" or something like that. Sorry if this kinda winds around, these are but musings haha
what a load of shite....but I do love Gong..peace!
@@designate_om Who on earth is this Christian fellow you mention as this interview is with Daevid Allen???????
@@dimethaltryptamine1 Christian Vander is the main dude from Magma. My post was in response to a comment that specifically referred to the part of the video where Daevid talks about Magma. There is no need for all those question marks.
True, very few (if any) artists explain concepts with such deep philosophical and quick replies.
Also, everything he says is true, in my opinion.
I am great Scott and I've met David Allen twice once in Santa Cruz California and once in San Francisco in San Francisco had 11 beer tab this guy Great Scott yeah!.
Thankyou for this interview - I met Daevid last year too. Beautiful person....
Bon voyage dans les étoiles , Daevid ...
Our pleasure !
Truly true, he's a very, very kind man.
I miss Daevid ...
i love that he was Australian.R.I.P Daevid.
Can't blame him for that
This is really an effort to explain the inexpressible.
Lovely man.
I would had luv to had seen some bay araea shows from years past
Nice. Didn't need any of the graphics or flashing messaging.
Daevid looked in ill health here. I suppose the dreaded cancer was doing its thing but just guessing. Daevid ethos probably felt that it was part of the cycle of life. He was blindingly good and very influential on Glam, Punk,Fusion, Art and Progressive rock scenes. Bowie, Cale,Wyatt,Ayers, Softies, Oldfield, and French rock are grateful to Daevid Allen.
+Kris Scanlon yes.
You know your stuff,well said.
@@tommytippee5900 thank you
@@lanabanana68 yes
I'm doing the same space travel tonight :)
Something in the mind....succinct response x
Gong n'est pas un groupe franco / anglais !
Mais australo / anglo / français.
your french is perfect, mon ami
3:01 "Magma seems like the shadow...the dark side"
cue epic dark sound effect! Sounds like the horns of jericho...Did yous post-edit that in the video or was it just uncanny timing?
4:33 ffs lads, that was horrible
Yes it is, yes he is, remarkably remarked.
Pretty good, isn't it ?
I met Daevid sometime in the mid 90s. After a whole parade a freaks and people who came to the show who never really heard them before and came because of the huge write up in the paper- we chatted and I mentioned Magma- he all of a sudden stopped in his tracks and the Pot Head Pixie got serious and told me some pretty messed up things about Vander. It both bummed me out and confirmed that what I sorta knew. But I never heard it from someone else.. but it came from someone with authority. I drove home with a lot of thoughts in my head… and I still remember him imitating Vander and he told me who Vander was imitating!
don't leave us hanging....what did Daevid say about Vander?
i think i know what you're getting at. Daevid was imitating Christian who was imitating Adolf? Sure, the 'rant' at the beginning of the 1989 MDK recording is aesthetically similar to an AH rant, just as Roger Waters' rants during The Wall's In The Flesh were. Lemmy wore an SS uniform as he thought it looked cool.
@@dhollsynthmusic What's your point? There are several other berks out there?
Beware 4:32 earrape
thanks me of the past
The guy who is interviewing him should speak in the goddamn mic!!!!!!!! Cant hear what he is asking about.
Håkon Struve Mmm sorry dude twas my first interview and even if he was one of the kindest chap I met, I was pretty intimidated by its presence...
What question do you miss?
@@MiseRecords 😊
reporter not at the same level....
indeed
j,ai toujours prefere gong , que magma ( trop serieux , )
:)
BUT dAEvid was the best.
what a geezer
sod
periodista no al nivel de deavid
sorry not a good interview
No problem it was his first!
And be assured he's still as lame, we really don't understand why people love being interviewed by him !!!