But it costs less than a 480 at launch! That is the main point people are forgetting. I don't care it's the same, most 3rd party cards were overclocked, this one is overclocked, and it has better cooling - It's a much better 480, and it costs less than 480 would cost just a few months ago... it's a win win for new people interested in upgrading their GPU
My board died after 2.5 years. I found that the two 10A fuses were blown. On debugging the my board, I came across this video. According to this video, the board is supposed to have 6 phase VRM for the GPU BUT Phase 1 (as mentioned on this video) is NOT enabled. If you look carefully at the board components, resistors R5177 & R5178 near the two 10A fuses are NOT populated. One ends of these resistors are connected to the Phase 1 DrMOS SIC632 (it's NOT SIC632A) Vin Pin and the other ends connected to the Fuse NF102 (6-PIN PCI-e connector). Since these two resistors are NOT installed, in effect Phase 1 is not enabled. Thus this board ONLY has 5 phase VRM. It is really strange why Sapphire would do this since they populated the board with all the components for this Phase EXCEPT linking the Phase to 12v Input. Why ? Also, Phase 2 input is via the 6-Pin PCI-e 12v connector and the manual suggests that you do not need to use the 6-Pin connector - just the 8-Pin. In that case, Phase 2 will not be used. So if you JUST use the 8-Pin connector to power the board, then ONLY 4 phases are used to power the GPU chip. BTW, I fixed my board after replacing a shorted capacitor on Phase 5.
ok, it's my first time seeing such a video.. heck, i didn't understand not even half of it... but it's so satisfying! lol, calms you down better than Vivaldi
So I ended up getting two of these (replaced my shitty Powercolor 480s). Slapped a G10+Thermaltake Water C on it with liquid ultra and bam 1580MHz overclock! Just thought I'd let you know hahah
I know you usually don't revisit PCB's but it would be awesome for you to do a side by side comparison of some PCBs. 480 vs 470 nitros and 480 vs 580 nitros would be awesome! Regardless thanks for all the videos man, and this one so soon! As soon as they released the NDA I was hoping to find a breakdown from you, and I did :D
I am wondering about one thing. 180 A is welding current, not to mention 300 A where on welding machine wires are thick as a thumb and even such are heated. What kind of conductor on that tiny board is conducting such huge current? Silver, gold?
Nice PCB and great analysis as always Buildzoid. Between the upgraded PCB, beefier heatsink and extra 6pin do you think it would be able to dethrone XFX?
That's the part I was waiting for. Have a short on bottom of coil which I believe leads to display circuitry. Getting. 83v or may be .89v can't remember on top pad with coil removed
finally this year i upgraded my 1050 to a sapphire rx 570 and couldnt be happier at stock clocks, it does worry me a bit im usually sitting at 75c i have seen 76c but thats the highest it gets to
I have rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro, the fan not spinning. I already swab the fan to another GPU, and it still working the fan. So i suggest the fan didn’t get any signal from the card. So any suggestion which part i must check?
performance isn't much further ahead than the 480 with the cost of higher power usage. it's perfectly fine if you have an old card, but if you already have a 480 or a 1060 it'd be a sidegrade with no real benefit.
My Rx580 nitro+ Special edition , asic quality 71.9% Stock voltage 1.181v (1.131~1.2v real) 1430mhz base I can go @1515mhz With voltage @1.240v (1.1625~1.256v real)
try downclock 1030v 1340 or 1085v 1385 or 1411 1130. ue card wil throttle either way the main bios doesn't allow higher than 75. which is also horrible for the stability. I max out every game 75 hz locked and stream with ez at 720p. custom flash
www.computerbase.de/2017-04/radeon-rx-580-570-test/3/#diagramm-lautstaerke-beim-spielen Sapphire RX 580 performs the best of the current available cards when you look at the noise level and the temperature. Asus is a close second and MSI realy fucks up again, even worse than with the RX 480 from the looks of (much more noise, little difference in temperature, the temperature for Sapphire RX 580 during load is fine). Buildzoid was quite negative about that card if I remember correctly.
Hey really like your vids. Got a question. What you think is the best RX 580? Actually I got a RX 480 Red Devil after I saw your vids on it I wanna get rid of it. What you think of the Powercolor RX 580? Are there also crap? Would be nice to hear your opinion.
hi im Randall from South africa i have a sapphire nitro+ 4gb the problem is where the display drive is just above the chip there are a small cap that has blown now the trace from that cap got a little bit damaged so can you tell me should i try and fix it or should i just throw it away? i know this video is from 7 years ago but you the only one that knows the rx series card inside and out.
Ok stupid question can you switch the bio switch while running to see the differences? I have ten of these but have never tried it and have never really noticed a differance thanks
Hello. I have the same card. I recently saw that in games that use over 3gb of vram(i have the 4gig version with Elpida memories) some small dashes of purple light appear on the screen after some time playing (can barely see them). I thought that the vram might be bad so I installed OCCT to test it. 1 minute into the test and I already have 7k errors. What does this mean? Could the thermal pads be that old? Is my card dying?... What can I do? I bought some thermal pads and plan on replacing them, but I have a feeling it might no be that. Help :(
hello thanks for a great movie, can you explain in a movie how the tensions start on the graphics card and the relationships between them thanks and sorry for my bad english greetings 👋👋👋👍👍👍
less phases = worse voltage, since more ripple voltage is introduced. Die Trägheit beim Laden der Kondensatoren mit Strom wird abgefedert. Es ergibt sich je mehr echte Phasen glattere Spannung. Darüber hinaus sind die Mosfets länger durchgeschaltet, um die gleiche Menge an Strom in die Spulen zu leiten. Entsprend dürften die VRMs heißer laufen, bei gleichen Bauteilen im Vergleich zu mehr Phasen. In einem vollen Zyklus sindwird die Zeit mit je 1/3 durchgeschaltet, während bei vier Phasen der selbe Zyklus die jeweiligen Mosfets nur mit einem 1/4 der Zeit belastet. Oder anders ausgedrückt jeder Mosfet ist im Vergleich zwischen den Phasen um 1/12 mehr Last ausgesetzt.
Hi.. I have a sapphire nitro+ rx580 8gb. Maybe you can help diagnose my graphic card. When I turn on my pc, the vga debug led is lit up, and no signal on the screen. But if I wait few minutes (power is on) and do hard restart, it goes normal like nothing happens. Whats wrong with my graphic card? Thanks.
Hello AHO, good review of this card. What i think AMD did is just a plug and play card. Their cards are just for this purpose. You can't toy with them unless you know what you are doing. Overall good job for this, i hope that more "tech reviewers" see you and ask you to review stuff, technically though. You could benefit more from your audience if you had a better wrighting style though. It's a bit hard to read sometimes, not the color as you could go pink and still have a tremendous style, but the writing is hard to follow. Hope i don't hurt your feelings on this. You are good at what you do, enjoy. :)
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_570_Pulse/images/front_full.jpg on techpowerup site picture it shows it have only 4 vdc phases. Is that OK ? I do not plan to overclock but dont want to buy crap.
I have a sapphire nitro+ 580 8g with sk hynix and I just bought it and dude forgot to put thermal pads on a memory chip and the vrm chips cant clock the memory. Changed bios and still nothing the same. U think the memory chip is bad?
Good stuff, it helped me double check voltages on my RX580, but I noticed you got the AUX and Mem Voltages the other way round. I've measured up on mine. Left is Aux 0.8v and Right is Mem 1.6v. Can anyone help me diagnose no display ? I've already reballed it but still no display.
the xfx is able to overclock to 1500mhz stable on nothing and 9gbps 2250 memory with no overvolting .The fans dont spin till 50c . I expect that on ln2 u might get up to 1600mhz maybe more .
do a teardown of 580 strix!! some high clocked models likes 580 strix top with 1431mhz out of the box arent binned chips?also the strix seems to be able to hit 9000mhz ram speeds,sure behaves like an 480 but with higher clockes,binned gpu, bigger/better cooler and maybe upgraded pcb and ram modules?does it worth the extra cash?
Power Consumption seems to suggest that it is not a 480 in idle, multi-monitor use or video. In everything else, yeah totally a 480 with a better overclock. ;-)
how different rx590 by asrock from 580 is, cause i am facing a problem where my fans stoped spinnig on rx590, fans are working i connected them to other 5 v supply just to test out, so the problem is on gpu, what could go wrong if gpu wont spin them, do u have any idea, gpu is so far working, i undervolted it and put some pc fans on it, until i find decent service for it
Do you think it's possible to lower the switching frequency of the VRM in order to improve efficiency? Does it affect performance if you don't overclock?
4 года назад
Hey bro, what is Area of PWM fan , My card is failure PWM pin on board
Hey man, great video. Just curious if one can find the complete pcb design with an explanation for everything on the board. Recently tried to solder new fans to the gpu which resulted in a bit of spark and smell of smoke. I can see the elements next to the fan controls have been burned. More specific R253 MC209 and B209 MR200 and want to figure out what they specially do on the board and hopefully see if I can repair them.
Hey buildzoid, i have a problem, the thing is, i accidentaly strip out a cmd on the back of the pcb, one that is right under the vcore is, and i'm having problems since then. I tried to find wich cmd uses but i had no luck, and i know those components have specific values and i don't want to just put anything on it Thanks for the video, really great
I guess this is an 8Gb version? Also I wonder if it's the exact same board as the Special Edition, which has higher clocked memory.. is there any physical difference between this and the Special Edition? I know the Limited Edition uses a higher binned GPU..
buildzoid wondering if u chould help me out i got a set of rx480 nitro 4gb cards with no power looks like the 2 10a fuses blew i tesyed for shorts and i cant find any after the fuses wondering if theres a way or test points to test the vrms powered by the 8pin molex also vrms and build is same as this rx580 u are reviewing
So the component quality is worse even compared to strix rx 480? Cause mine cant even reach 1350Mhz and its the OC edition. Maybe i lose the silicon lottery.
My question is: Is this Sapphire a reliable and long-lasting card? I've read users in newegg complain that the sapphire Nitro + died after 3 months, for example. I need a good card since I am going to import it from Amazon to Venezuela and I will not have a direct guarantee. I'm between the MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X for $304 and this one for $289. Thanks in advance...
We have an XFX GTS RX580 and an RX580 GTR-S. So, is like, the GTS the successor to the RS and the GTR-S the successor to the GTR? And which of the two has what VRM setup? Afaik the RX480 RS didn't have that good of a VRM setup/cooler.
xfxforce.com/en-us/products/amd-radeon-rx-500-series#* The RS still exists it's probably still trash. The GTS is a middle ground between the GTR-S and the RS.
That's the RX570. That never had a GTR-like version with the RX470. Would like to see a PCB breakdown of said RX570 RS to see what makes it not that good then.
@actuallyhardcoreoverclocking I know this video was awhile ago but if you had time it would be awesome if you could test rgb led header on this board to see how it outputs and if it is a standard 3 pin or 4 pin l ask as I have the 570 version of this card which is exactly the same minus a few cores but sapphire trix software is the only way to control the rgb and it is terrible so if the led uses a standard header it could be adapted to run on a regular rgb controller only current have slight oc on my card as my psu is a bit small for my system
Samsung gddr5 ICs are still better. They have a better process than hynix limit is IMC as you guessed. 580 clocks better under ln2 ;). not by much but enough to beat the 15720 FS of the RX480 on the bot. 1750~
Actually Hardcore Overclocking the msi board has 8100 mhz vram supposedly
7 лет назад
Hey, great video (first as well :D), can you tell me how much current can be pushed throu on 3phase semiconductor 4C9N (its used for both hiside and lowside) vrm (@1.6v) ? Thanks
SK Hynix memory chips ? Now I know how they saved those additional 10$ on the MSRP... from personal experience those chips suck. Can't go over 7Ghz memory on my RX 470 because over that frequency the BIOS sets timings which are so bad that even @7.5GHz the memory is slower than before...
Yea, I did some testing with 3DMark graphics score and it's the same crap... i'm just keeping my memory locked on 7ghz and try to push the core as high as it can go (1350 so far, haven't really raised the voltage tho)
it depends if the memory chips can actually sustain tighter timing without stability issues... anyways for now i'm not gonna mess with the BIOS since the card is less than 2 months old and i want it to last for a while ;)
hi i see your in the uk im looking for someone to look at 2 faulty cards i have one for spares just wondering if you could point in the direction to some to help may be
Do you mind doing a walk through of a gigabyte 580 8gb? (gigabyte rx 580 8gb gaming / gaming8g) How big of an overclocking difference would I be getting with 8+6 instead of the 8 pin 580 8gb? I can hit 1411 on gpu with a 50mv increase but i can't seem to get it stable over that no matter the voltage. Is this the limit of these cards? The xfx model seems. To have the highest base oc.. I haven't bothered to push the memory as the difference seems nominal but I set it to 2100 at the stock voltage. I saw on gamers nexus they hybrid modded a 480 8gb and he only cooled the outer rows of Mosfets leaving the entire middle row of vrms Un-sinked. How big of a deal is this? Is it OK to just cover most of them? I attempted to hybrid mine with a kraken g10 and a custom modded antec 620 with a 240mm rad and res and the flow is good but I've heard that cpu cold plates are bad for gpus.. Do I need to get a clc with a specific cold plate designed for a gpu or is the difference nominal? I have copper sinks for the vrams from my 290x kit but the thermal tape is shot and the 290x had one row of vrms so the heatsink won't cover two rows.. I tried with just fans blowing directly on the vrms on both sides of the die but it throttles immidiately even though the gpu core is at 30c or so. Hwinfo seems to occasionally show vrm temps but I can't figure out why I can't see them in gpuz or any other sensor software and I've tried them all. It looks like it could be a conflict perhaps but I've disabled everything and I can't see the vrm Temps in any other app and in hwinfo it shows it sometimes but the reading is slightly grayed out but seems to be stuck at like 45C and then I can't get it to show again.. I'm using the Asus software for fan control on the mobo (z170 pro gaming/aura with a 7700k and 16gb 3000mhz Cl15 for reference) so maybe that's what's conflicting? Nonetheless, the backplate on the other side of the vrms is burning hot with the stock cooler but the gpu core temp doesn't exceed the high 70s with the stock cooler. I just like liquid more.. Lol I've had cards in the past that didn't need any vrm cooling but I realize all cards are different and amd seem to be quite hot and power hungry from what I've seen in the past. Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated and thanks for making these videos. Some of the best tech content I've seen.definitely subbing. Ty
And I'm an idiot for not looking in the description first... Thanks for replying anyways. Yup, it's right there in plain sight, don't even have to hit show more. ^facepalm^
Do you think that flashing this bios on a Sapphire nitro RX480 could give issues because of the extra 6 pin? and extra phase? the obvious answer is a yes but I'm hoping for a no.
Do you think the lower power consumption is worth getting a 480 instead of the 580? I was planning on getting a 480 until rumors of the 500 series started swirling. Now I want a 580 but I'm afraid that my 500W PSU won't be enough.
Hey, Buildzoid - I have a good Sapphire nitro RX480 OC, Reached 1470 on air without any modding to the cooling, do you want it as a loan for some OC testing and results?
Timothy Lindblom you talking about using a ryzen system? cuz that's just come down to updating the BIOS and most recent updates the new AMD power profile for Windows. if you're using Intel switch to the performance profile the maximize core usage and then increase priority of the program being used everything else is going to be Hardware dependent so like what graphics card and motherboard you're using... I mean this is literally the most vague question ever hahaha
What I said is the basic way of doing just that, but an "optimized" overclock is done manually uefi side and windows doesn't play a huge part in that - windows is just the os the user friendly interface that allows you to use your computer for stuff like internet and games. optimize the power profile to allow for 100% CPU usage and maybe dedicate more resources to just the task at bay(which can actually cause crashes). But knowing whether youre using ryzen or Intel is kinds key here cause the optimization you speak of is really done mostly by windows itself and you just set a couple of settings based on what they've given you to work with...
Rx480 ghz edition
Lawrence Timme 1.5 ghz edition this time lol
Sanus Hydra The nitro+ has a boost clock of 1450Mhz maybe it squeeze out a extra 50Mhz and be stable
Mine's at 1580MHz on water :D
gonna try and hit 1600 on air
Thanks for these videos. You have made me understand how things work in GPU in a level i doupt i could get from anywhere else.
But it costs less than a 480 at launch! That is the main point people are forgetting. I don't care it's the same, most 3rd party cards were overclocked, this one is overclocked, and it has better cooling - It's a much better 480, and it costs less than 480 would cost just a few months ago... it's a win win for new people interested in upgrading their GPU
My board died after 2.5 years. I found that the two 10A fuses were blown. On debugging the my board, I came across this video. According to this video, the board is supposed to have 6 phase VRM for the GPU BUT Phase 1 (as mentioned on this video) is NOT enabled. If you look carefully at the board components, resistors R5177 & R5178 near the two 10A fuses are NOT populated. One ends of these resistors are connected to the Phase 1 DrMOS SIC632 (it's NOT SIC632A) Vin Pin and the other ends connected to the Fuse NF102 (6-PIN PCI-e connector).
Since these two resistors are NOT installed, in effect Phase 1 is not enabled. Thus this board ONLY has 5 phase VRM.
It is really strange why Sapphire would do this since they populated the board with all the components for this Phase EXCEPT linking the Phase to 12v Input. Why ?
Also, Phase 2 input is via the 6-Pin PCI-e 12v connector and the manual suggests that you do not need to use the 6-Pin connector - just the 8-Pin. In that case, Phase 2 will not be used. So if you JUST use the 8-Pin connector to power the board, then ONLY 4 phases are used to power the GPU chip.
BTW, I fixed my board after replacing a shorted capacitor on Phase 5.
ok, it's my first time seeing such a video.. heck, i didn't understand not even half of it... but it's so satisfying! lol, calms you down better than Vivaldi
Hey! PCB analysis on launch day!
easy card to do and being late cost more views than what I'm willing to give up for convenience.
So I ended up getting two of these (replaced my shitty Powercolor 480s). Slapped a G10+Thermaltake Water C on it with liquid ultra and bam 1580MHz overclock! Just thought I'd let you know hahah
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking can u pls do a pcb breakdown of sapphire nitro+ rx 590?
I know you usually don't revisit PCB's but it would be awesome for you to do a side by side comparison of some PCBs. 480 vs 470 nitros and 480 vs 580 nitros would be awesome! Regardless thanks for all the videos man, and this one so soon! As soon as they released the NDA I was hoping to find a breakdown from you, and I did :D
I am wondering about one thing. 180 A is welding current, not to mention 300 A where on welding machine wires are thick as a thumb and even such are heated. What kind of conductor on that tiny board is conducting such huge current? Silver, gold?
excelente!
Nice PCB and great analysis as always Buildzoid. Between the upgraded PCB, beefier heatsink and extra 6pin do you think it would be able to dethrone XFX?
That's the part I was waiting for. Have a short on bottom of coil which I believe leads to display circuitry. Getting. 83v or may be .89v can't remember on top pad with coil removed
hey they brought back the 6th power faze :)
wakesake TFW you have a 6 phase 480 nitro but apparently it's disabled...
Great video, i wish you would do more of these
finally this year i upgraded my 1050 to a sapphire rx 570 and couldnt be happier at stock clocks, it does worry me a bit im usually sitting at 75c i have seen 76c but thats the highest it gets to
I have rx 580 8gb sapphire nitro, the fan not spinning. I already swab the fan to another GPU, and it still working the fan. So i suggest the fan didn’t get any signal from the card. So any suggestion which part i must check?
is this PCB the same as in sapphire limited edition?
edit: acctualy is limited edition PCB "derp!"
Why do people hate the 580? The clocks differences are huge and it doesn't cost more.
performance isn't much further ahead than the 480 with the cost of higher power usage.
it's perfectly fine if you have an old card, but if you already have a 480 or a 1060 it'd be a sidegrade with no real benefit.
pSyk
Because we all I want Vega, fuck this shit. Even Nvidia is bored and wants Vega out.
Game Maker it isnt aimed at 480 and 1060 owners.
My Rx580 nitro+ Special edition , asic quality 71.9%
Stock voltage 1.181v (1.131~1.2v real)
1430mhz base
I can go @1515mhz
With voltage @1.240v (1.1625~1.256v real)
very unstable
try downclock 1030v 1340 or 1085v 1385 or 1411 1130. ue card wil throttle either way the main bios doesn't allow higher than 75. which is also horrible for the stability. I max out every game 75 hz locked and stream with ez at 720p. custom flash
i am getting on to replace my hd7950
580 = better binned 480. Reference 480s clock way lower than 580s, mine doesn't want to break 1340 Mhz
480s come stock between 1.1 and 1.15V. RX 580s are shipping around 1.2V. On 1.2V most 480s do 1360-1450
Actually Hardcore Overclocking mine doesn't, the (early?) AMD reference cards are bad in that regard
My ref 480 did 1480mhz core on 1.25V
Actually Hardcore Overclocking looks like I lost the silicon lottery.
Do you have Compatibility Mode turned off, if it's still a thing?
www.computerbase.de/2017-04/radeon-rx-580-570-test/3/#diagramm-lautstaerke-beim-spielen
Sapphire RX 580 performs the best of the current available cards when you look at the noise level and the temperature. Asus is a close second and MSI realy fucks up again, even worse than with the RX 480 from the looks of (much more noise, little difference in temperature, the temperature for Sapphire RX 580 during load is fine). Buildzoid was quite negative about that card if I remember correctly.
Interesting that the XFX cards are not represented. The GTR was the best of the bunch for 480's
XFX came latest with the RX 480 as far as I know, many months later than the other companies.
These videos are great! Thank you for making those!
i got one of these for $130 on ebay!
Hopefully i can get a response here, What are the R47 cubes under the PCI power connectors, I have 2 rx580s burn/desauder those chips from the board.
Do you think that Sapphire RX 570 Nitro + 4GB has the same PCB?
I think it does. The Pulse has the cheaper one
Could you give your opinion on why AMD opted to use and extra 6pin power connector?
Great video!
planning on doing the new powercolor cards?
What would be a "boot pin"? i have a crashing issue and ive read somewhere about "boot pin of a power stage"
thank you so much for all your videos. very informative
Hey really like your vids. Got a question. What you think is the best RX 580? Actually I got a RX 480 Red Devil after I saw your vids on it I wanna get rid of it. What you think of the Powercolor RX 580? Are there also crap?
Would be nice to hear your opinion.
hi im Randall from South africa i have a sapphire nitro+ 4gb the problem is where the display drive is just above the chip there are a small cap that has blown now the trace from that cap got a little bit damaged so can you tell me should i try and fix it or should i just throw it away? i know this video is from 7 years ago but you the only one that knows the rx series card inside and out.
Ok stupid question can you switch the bio switch while running to see the differences? I have ten of these but have never tried it and have never really noticed a differance thanks
Hello. I have the same card. I recently saw that in games that use over 3gb of vram(i have the 4gig version with Elpida memories) some small dashes of purple light appear on the screen after some time playing (can barely see them).
I thought that the vram might be bad so I installed OCCT to test it. 1 minute into the test and I already have 7k errors. What does this mean? Could the thermal pads be that old? Is my card dying?... What can I do? I bought some thermal pads and plan on replacing them, but I have a feeling it might no be that. Help :(
hello thanks for a great movie, can you explain in a movie how the tensions start on the graphics card and the relationships between them thanks and sorry for my bad english greetings 👋👋👋👍👍👍
Vega sapphire nitro+ board next?
This card has a 6+8 pin layout. Must both be used if not OC? My PSU only has x1 VGA 8 pin. Thanks!
are the boards the same ? I have a nitro =rx 570 and its hard finding a waterblock there all for 580s are the heat sinks interchangeable ?
Brother i have problem on my sapphire rx 580 running only 130 watt, vcore 0.91volt. If i oc to 1.15v my pc hang.
less phases = worse voltage, since more ripple voltage is introduced. Die Trägheit beim Laden der Kondensatoren mit Strom wird abgefedert. Es ergibt sich je mehr echte Phasen glattere Spannung. Darüber hinaus sind die Mosfets länger durchgeschaltet, um die gleiche Menge an Strom in die Spulen zu leiten. Entsprend dürften die VRMs heißer laufen, bei gleichen Bauteilen im Vergleich zu mehr Phasen. In einem vollen Zyklus sindwird die Zeit mit je 1/3 durchgeschaltet, während bei vier Phasen der selbe Zyklus die jeweiligen Mosfets nur mit einem 1/4 der Zeit belastet. Oder anders ausgedrückt jeder Mosfet ist im Vergleich zwischen den Phasen um 1/12 mehr Last ausgesetzt.
Hi.. I have a sapphire nitro+ rx580 8gb. Maybe you can help diagnose my graphic card. When I turn on my pc, the vga debug led is lit up, and no signal on the screen. But if I wait few minutes (power is on) and do hard restart, it goes normal like nothing happens. Whats wrong with my graphic card? Thanks.
i have rx580 4gb hynix when i start miner my system held freeze when i disconnect rx580 4gb my mining working OK
What do you think about the variability of the silicon? The RX 480 had high variability and OCing was all over the place.
I need to see more results
It would be interesting to see if the RX 580/570 can hit the reference boost clocks of the RX 480/470 at lower voltages.
Are there actually other youtubers that create/make videos like this?
Hello AHO, good review of this card.
What i think AMD did is just a plug and play card. Their cards are just for this purpose. You can't toy with them unless you know what you are doing. Overall good job for this, i hope that more "tech reviewers" see you and ask you to review stuff, technically though.
You could benefit more from your audience if you had a better wrighting style though.
It's a bit hard to read sometimes, not the color as you could go pink and still have a tremendous style, but the writing is hard to follow.
Hope i don't hurt your feelings on this. You are good at what you do, enjoy. :)
how Sapphire nitro+ compare tu pulse line of cards ?
www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Sapphire/RX_570_Pulse/images/front_full.jpg
on techpowerup site picture it shows it have only 4 vdc phases. Is that OK ?
I do not plan to overclock but dont want to buy crap.
I don't think PCB's of 570 and 580 are the same. Somebody correct me if Im wrong.
I have a sapphire nitro+ 580 8g with sk hynix and I just bought it and dude forgot to put thermal pads on a memory chip and the vrm chips cant clock the memory. Changed bios and still nothing the same. U think the memory chip is bad?
do you have the boardview of this videocard model?
Good stuff, it helped me double check voltages on my RX580, but I noticed you got the AUX and Mem Voltages the other way round. I've measured up on mine. Left is Aux 0.8v and Right is Mem 1.6v.
Can anyone help me diagnose no display ? I've already reballed it but still no display.
the xfx is able to overclock to 1500mhz stable on nothing and 9gbps 2250 memory with no overvolting .The fans dont spin till 50c . I expect that on ln2 u might get up to 1600mhz maybe more .
do a teardown of 580 strix!!
some high clocked models likes 580 strix top with 1431mhz out of the box arent binned chips?also the strix seems to be able to hit 9000mhz ram speeds,sure behaves like an 480 but with higher clockes,binned gpu, bigger/better cooler and maybe upgraded pcb and ram modules?does it worth the extra cash?
300A for the gpu chip? Why do they use high amp,low voltage instead of the other way around? Higher current would need thicker conductors, right?
Please please please do the sapphire pulse
Power Consumption seems to suggest that it is not a 480 in idle, multi-monitor use or video. In everything else, yeah totally a 480 with a better overclock. ;-)
AMD could have just fiddled with the power states a bit to get idle power draw down.
how different rx590 by asrock from 580 is, cause i am facing a problem where my fans stoped spinnig on rx590, fans are working i connected them to other 5 v supply just to test out, so the problem is on gpu, what could go wrong if gpu wont spin them, do u have any idea, gpu is so far working, i undervolted it and put some pc fans on it, until i find decent service for it
Goob job! :) Keep it up!
Do you think it's possible to lower the switching frequency of the VRM in order to improve efficiency? Does it affect performance if you don't overclock?
Hey bro, what is Area of PWM fan , My card is failure PWM pin on board
I could listen to a british person swearing all day.
Hey man, great video. Just curious if one can find the complete pcb design with an explanation for everything on the board. Recently tried to solder new fans to the gpu which resulted in a bit of spark and smell of smoke. I can see the elements next to the fan controls have been burned. More specific R253 MC209 and B209 MR200 and want to figure out what they specially do on the board and hopefully see if I can repair them.
just tap from main fans
they have stated it is re-branding and never claimed it was new
So, there`s a way to reduce power consumption? Can i use just the 8-Pin PIC-E?
Hey buildzoid, i have a problem, the thing is, i accidentaly strip out a cmd on the back of the pcb, one that is right under the vcore is, and i'm having problems since then. I tried to find wich cmd uses but i had no luck, and i know those components have specific values and i don't want to just put anything on it
Thanks for the video, really great
Forgot the display driver
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That's a serious cold you caught at the beggining of the video mate
I guess this is an 8Gb version? Also I wonder if it's the exact same board as the Special Edition, which has higher clocked memory.. is there any physical difference between this and the Special Edition? I know the Limited Edition uses a higher binned GPU..
buildzoid wondering if u chould help me out i got a set of rx480 nitro 4gb cards with no power looks like the 2 10a fuses blew i tesyed for shorts and i cant find any after the fuses wondering if theres a way or test points to test the vrms powered by the 8pin molex also vrms and build is same as this rx580 u are reviewing
:D dat intro.
So the component quality is worse even compared to strix rx 480?
Cause mine cant even reach 1350Mhz and its the OC edition.
Maybe i lose the silicon lottery.
thanx bro!!!
I wonder if I could just buy a broken one of these RX 580s and put the cooler on my RX 480 Nitro+?
My question is: Is this Sapphire a reliable and long-lasting card? I've read users in newegg complain that the sapphire Nitro + died after 3 months, for example. I need a good card since I am going to import it from Amazon to Venezuela and I will not have a direct guarantee. I'm between the MSI GTX 1060 Gaming X for $304 and this one for $289. Thanks in advance...
We have an XFX GTS RX580 and an RX580 GTR-S. So, is like, the GTS the successor to the RS and the GTR-S the successor to the GTR? And which of the two has what VRM setup? Afaik the RX480 RS didn't have that good of a VRM setup/cooler.
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The RS still exists it's probably still trash. The GTS is a middle ground between the GTR-S and the RS.
That's the RX570. That never had a GTR-like version with the RX470.
Would like to see a PCB breakdown of said RX570 RS to see what makes it not that good then.
Is there an rx 580 with an fuse (?) if that what the limiter is called, that limits it to 75 watts
Why does it have an 8+6 pin power input? I don't really see any scenario where a single 8-pin wouldn't be enough power for a 480/580.
xXxNoScopeMLGxXx just in case..
Do someone know which Buck Converter is used on the Disp VRM?
@actuallyhardcoreoverclocking I know this video was awhile ago but if you had time it would be awesome if you could test rgb led header on this board to see how it outputs and if it is a standard 3 pin or 4 pin l ask as I have the 570 version of this card which is exactly the same minus a few cores but sapphire trix software is the only way to control the rgb and it is terrible so if the led uses a standard header it could be adapted to run on a regular rgb controller only current have slight oc on my card as my psu is a bit small for my system
Samsung gddr5 ICs are still better. They have a better process than hynix limit is IMC as you guessed.
580 clocks better under ln2 ;). not by much but enough to beat the 15720 FS of the RX480 on the bot. 1750~
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Actually Hardcore Overclocking the msi board has 8100 mhz vram supposedly
Hey, great video (first as well :D), can you tell me how much current can be pushed throu on 3phase semiconductor 4C9N (its used for both hiside and lowside) vrm (@1.6v) ? Thanks
Do you think 4gb vram is enough for 1080p i mean for 2 or 3 years like getting a rx580 4gb now or just go 8gb?
aren't they sic632 not sic632a? please explain me how you figure it out. the chips writed part number sic632
By measuring voltage on pin 1 (pwm)? Cmiiw
Are you sure its SiC632A and not SiC632 as it says on a chip
Someone quick!!!
SK Hynix memory chips ? Now I know how they saved those additional 10$ on the MSRP... from personal experience those chips suck. Can't go over 7Ghz memory on my RX 470 because over that frequency the BIOS sets timings which are so bad that even @7.5GHz the memory is slower than before...
Yea, I did some testing with 3DMark graphics score and it's the same crap... i'm just keeping my memory locked on 7ghz and try to push the core as high as it can go (1350 so far, haven't really raised the voltage tho)
it depends if the memory chips can actually sustain tighter timing without stability issues... anyways for now i'm not gonna mess with the BIOS since the card is less than 2 months old and i want it to last for a while ;)
hi i see your in the uk im looking for someone to look at 2 faulty cards i have one for spares just wondering if you could point in the direction to some to help may be
Do you mind doing a walk through of a gigabyte 580 8gb?
(gigabyte rx 580 8gb gaming / gaming8g)
How big of an overclocking difference would I be getting with 8+6 instead of the 8 pin 580 8gb? I can hit 1411 on gpu with a 50mv increase but i can't seem to get it stable over that no matter the voltage. Is this the limit of these cards? The xfx model seems. To have the highest base oc.. I haven't bothered to push the memory as the difference seems nominal but I set it to 2100 at the stock voltage.
I saw on gamers nexus they hybrid modded a 480 8gb and he only cooled the outer rows of Mosfets leaving the entire middle row of vrms Un-sinked. How big of a deal is this? Is it OK to just cover most of them?
I attempted to hybrid mine with a kraken g10 and a custom modded antec 620 with a 240mm rad and res and the flow is good but I've heard that cpu cold plates are bad for gpus.. Do I need to get a clc with a specific cold plate designed for a gpu or is the difference nominal?
I have copper sinks for the vrams from my 290x kit but the thermal tape is shot and the 290x had one row of vrms so the heatsink won't cover two rows.. I tried with just fans blowing directly on the vrms on both sides of the die but it throttles immidiately even though the gpu core is at 30c or so. Hwinfo seems to occasionally show vrm temps but I can't figure out why I can't see them in gpuz or any other sensor software and I've tried them all. It looks like it could be a conflict perhaps but I've disabled everything and I can't see the vrm Temps in any other app and in hwinfo it shows it sometimes but the reading is slightly grayed out but seems to be stuck at like 45C and then I can't get it to show again.. I'm using the Asus software for fan control on the mobo (z170 pro gaming/aura with a 7700k and 16gb 3000mhz Cl15 for reference) so maybe that's what's conflicting? Nonetheless, the backplate on the other side of the vrms is burning hot with the stock cooler but the gpu core temp doesn't exceed the high 70s with the stock cooler. I just like liquid more.. Lol
I've had cards in the past that didn't need any vrm cooling but I realize all cards are different and amd seem to be quite hot and power hungry from what I've seen in the past. Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated and thanks for making these videos. Some of the best tech content I've seen.definitely subbing. Ty
Vmem and VDDCI are the wrong way around in this video, it's flipped
I'm just wondering WHY did they waste the 5xx series like that... For fuck's sake AMD.... Should've called it the 480/470 GHz edition.
Just curious, where do you get such detailed PCB pictures to use in the videos?
I put the source in the description.
And I'm an idiot for not looking in the description first... Thanks for replying anyways. Yup, it's right there in plain sight, don't even have to hit show more. ^facepalm^
Aorus please because it looks really nice for it's price.
Do you think that flashing this bios on a Sapphire nitro RX480 could give issues because of the extra 6 pin? and extra phase? the obvious answer is a yes but I'm hoping for a no.
Sankanyu I have the same question
I just got a 580 what you think is the safe max vcore for OC?
i hope Powercolor come up with better power design
I hope SAPPHIRE pull something great with VEGA. Just good is not good enough.
Do you think the lower power consumption is worth getting a 480 instead of the 580? I was planning on getting a 480 until rumors of the 500 series started swirling. Now I want a 580 but I'm afraid that my 500W PSU won't be enough.
Unless you have a 9590 a stock clock 580 will be just fine on a 500W PSU.
Sweet, I'm unfortunately running an FX-8370, but I'm upgrading to Ryzen next year. Thanks!
Hey, Buildzoid - I have a good Sapphire nitro RX480 OC, Reached 1470 on air without any modding to the cooling, do you want it as a loan for some OC testing and results?
Thanks for the offer but I don't do loans from viewers. Too much risk of card being broken in shipping or something.
I have a good shipping company that covers that, And as far as no LN2 involved I am taking the responsibility for the tests. I like your contect.
Still no. I just really don't like borrowing things or loaning my stuff out to others.
I'm curious. What does this man do for a day job (if any)?
Hope you can review asus 580 o8g, asus' 580 and 480 pcb look no difference to me
its not SIC632A, its SIC632
can someone tell me what tweaks you can do to Windows to improve scores
Timothy Lindblom you talking about using a ryzen system? cuz that's just come down to updating the BIOS and most recent updates the new AMD power profile for Windows. if you're using Intel switch to the performance profile the maximize core usage and then increase priority of the program being used everything else is going to be Hardware dependent so like what graphics card and motherboard you're using... I mean this is literally the most vague question ever hahaha
Sam M. Atherton no im talking about optimizing my OS for overclocking
What I said is the basic way of doing just that, but an "optimized" overclock is done manually uefi side and windows doesn't play a huge part in that - windows is just the os the user friendly interface that allows you to use your computer for stuff like internet and games. optimize the power profile to allow for 100% CPU usage and maybe dedicate more resources to just the task at bay(which can actually cause crashes). But knowing whether youre using ryzen or Intel is kinds key here cause the optimization you speak of is really done mostly by windows itself and you just set a couple of settings based on what they've given you to work with...
Download more ram and overclock your kernels and youll be screeaming
@@SuperCaptain4 specs?
Why did your RX480 died?