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  • Опубликовано: 12 янв 2025

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  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад +11

    Gotta love E-Tec. Better fuel economy than 4-strokes, more power, less weight.

  • @greatlakespowerstrokefx4
    @greatlakespowerstrokefx4 Год назад +1

    I really wish they would offer the 650 and 850 etec in can am atv’s. How cool would that be

  • @YINGAI1995
    @YINGAI1995 12 лет назад

    That is one of the most beautiful models of an engine

  • @fidelcatsro6948
    @fidelcatsro6948 9 лет назад +12

    wow I hope they make a super sport 600 2 stroke motorcycle with their engine!

    • @schwanzelstock1071
      @schwanzelstock1071 7 лет назад +2

      Rotax builds better engines. This wasn't compared to their best engines. ( Rotax builds aircraft engines ) I' ll trust those. 2:32 is like Honda's HPP. This is nothing more than a shitty commercial no numbers you can trust in this video.

    • @fidelcatsro6948
      @fidelcatsro6948 7 лет назад +1

      Looks on...

    • @philkennedy8683
      @philkennedy8683 7 лет назад +1

      Rotax aircraft engines are hardly the paragon of engine design. not sure where you got that opinion from

  • @wrangleding9302
    @wrangleding9302 7 лет назад +8

    (At 2:40)
    Since when is 8,000 calculations per second powerful? Intel 4004 did 92k, 40 years ago!

    • @wickedalpaca2343
      @wickedalpaca2343 7 лет назад +3

      Thrasher9905 bexause it dosent calculate zeros and ones its calculating presice valve timing intervals due to a variety of variables such as throttle input, air/fuel mixture etc, and each one of those is a calculation

    • @markleblanc7918
      @markleblanc7918 6 лет назад +2

      Thrasher9905 but keep in mind you aint playing fortnite. your running a engine lol

    • @sc0llay
      @sc0llay 6 лет назад +4

      Wickedalpaca23 it still works on binary, running an engine is much easier than running an operating system

  • @thomasmahoney9748
    @thomasmahoney9748 5 лет назад +2

    Rotax is known for unreliability in the aircraft industry. Your 2 stroke looks wonderful!

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад +3

    @quincee33 Yeah. The 2-strokes match and beat 4-strokes now. And with DI there is a lot of untapped technology for stop/start, cylinder deactivation, and while cruising running like a 4-stroke in order to reduce emissions and increase fuel economy more.

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад +1

    @TheOfficialKC cool. so what are your thoughts on diesel engines in cars? i'm a big fan, but for some reason Europe seems to warm up to them more than north america. also, where do u live?

  • @evanverret3150
    @evanverret3150 9 лет назад +51

    But the smell and smoke is the best part!

    • @vectraB97
      @vectraB97 5 лет назад +1

      These e-tec 2strokes has less smoke than many 4strokes at cold start. I got the 900 ace 4stroke. It's far from smoke less when starting in my cold garage. Still much less smoke than my old fan cooled Polaris. New Polaris sleds still runs very dirty.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 4 года назад

      I love the smell of 2 stroke. Diesel too... but man nothing smells better than a stroke.

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад +1

    @TheOfficialKC quick question: do those new style speedometers light up at night.....someone told me they are just in black digits or something like that......i noticed something between the speedo and tach. is that the temp gage or fuel gage? .....on all new sleds in general i mean....

  • @nepaoutdoors8536
    @nepaoutdoors8536 3 года назад

    Bought a sled yesterday with those black things on the heads and didn’t know what they were . Now i know, RAVE is cool

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад +2

    @TheOfficialKC how bout emissions?

  • @kazantipa
    @kazantipa Год назад

    Привет! У меня Skandic SWT 600 E-TEC. Как часто, на каком пробеге необходимо менять, добавлять смазку Isoflex B52 в подшипники коленвала?

  • @pz7252
    @pz7252 8 лет назад +12

    please put this 2 stroke technology back into the Aprilia motorcycles!!!

  • @pierrelemens8436
    @pierrelemens8436 11 лет назад +2

    800 e-tec very reliable engine 22000 km no probleme very good on fuel better than 4 stroke!

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад +2

    @quincee33 Their plan was to kill the 2-strokes before the technology came. But the 2-strokes stuck around long enough until the technology is available to make them superior again. Their plan didn't quite work out. It worked in dirt bikes(mostly).
    When people start seeing what these are capable of either Yamaha better start making 2-strokes or suffer problems. I heard Polaris might go all 2-stroke(like Evinrude boat engines) but don't know if that is true.

  • @ilLUZiiVeGaming
    @ilLUZiiVeGaming 11 лет назад

    what happens with the fuel, is there any need for premix? or does the piston get lubed from a sump

    • @g8ymw
      @g8ymw 10 лет назад

      Cannot be premix or the bottom end would seize up, the oil is injected into the bearings, just a more advanced, targeted lubrication system based loosely on what Yamaha, Suzuki and Kawasaki have been doing since the early 70's.
      Air is drawn into the crankcase then forced (with oil from the lubrication system) Then forced up through the transfer ports to the cylinder blowing the burned (and some fresh) air out the exhaust port. When the exhaust port is closed ONLY then is petrol injected (No unburned petrol out the exhaust hence better economy) Lubrication is still "Total Loss"

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад

    @TheOfficialKC cool, but what are the laws in north america? are 2 strokes gonna be outlawed? hope not, but i've heard that this might happen.

  • @Kareggan
    @Kareggan 4 года назад

    "Virtually no 2-stroke smoke". 1 sec later there's smoke all over the place 1:22

  • @ryans6280
    @ryans6280 Год назад

    Pre Audi Lambo sound tho 😍

  • @stevemcmillan4044
    @stevemcmillan4044 7 лет назад

    So how many pistons does a average snowmobile engine have?

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад +2

    @quincee33 I don't know. I know a lot more about the engine technology than the features. I don't live in an area where I can get into the sport.

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад +1

    @TheOfficialKC say what? are you into dirt bikes or ATV's? u seem to know alot about the engines.... are u into PWC?

  • @АртемВараница-э2р
    @АртемВараница-э2р 3 года назад

    Ничего не понял но интересно как рев клапана работают.

  • @Aviator1681
    @Aviator1681 11 лет назад

    Is lubrication oil reclaimed from the crank case after used? If not, I wonder how much oil is injected for each cycle. The video says that 1Q of oil per season. Any one know how many hour of use is that equivalent to?

    • @philkennedy8683
      @philkennedy8683 7 лет назад

      oil injected engines use under 100:1 and often close to 200:1

  • @tylerbaldwin1633
    @tylerbaldwin1633 7 лет назад +6

    rotax the only engine you have to change crank and recoil every season

    • @nsa6790
      @nsa6790 4 года назад +1

      When you’re pushing out more power through your engines than every other competitor you tend to blow the parts made for those lesser powered sissy sleds.

  • @SCROGY
    @SCROGY 13 лет назад +1

    @rdyjur I don't know where you got that from but it's false. Two strokes definitely hit harder and make more power. 4 strokes do not generate better power through the whole RPM range (their RPM range is wider). They don't hit as hard and thus just feel like they have a wider power band. Why do you think 4 strokes with double the cc were allowed to compete against 125's (250 4 strokes) and 250's (450 4 strokes) in AMA motocross? Because a two stroke essentially makes twice as much power.

    • @patamaran
      @patamaran 8 лет назад

      which would matter, if you were comparing the same displacement motors, but you arent.

  • @jetli8703
    @jetli8703 6 лет назад

    Ski doo doesn't mention the engines are designed AND built in Austria.

  • @rdyjur
    @rdyjur 13 лет назад

    @SCROGY
    a 4 stroke engine generates better power through the whole rpm range whereas a two stroke there is a slight delay in the power until you hit your max rpm. 4 strokes are waay snappier!yes motor has much more to it making it heavy and hard for guys like you to figure out. and once u learn to use compression braking u will rarely have to use your brakes unless you're flying down the mountain at mach 1. suspension is meant to be set up for your style when u buy it, with basic tools

  • @65bug519
    @65bug519 8 лет назад +3

    the 600 two stroke etec uses less oil over its life than the 4 stroke and gets better fuel mileage and therefore less pollution

    • @patamaran
      @patamaran 8 лет назад

      yeah...because its life is a quarter the length of a 4 stroke haha.

    • @kayteeemm45
      @kayteeemm45 7 лет назад +2

      ya ok buddy , at 10 000 km all u have to do is change the spark plugs, they are as reliable as it gets , haven't ever had a problem with a etec , if u do its cause ur moding it and doing somethings stupid, leave it stock and throw a ggb mountain can on it and it will never let u down, mines started all winter in right cold weather no problem, push the button and it instantly starts.

    • @joshw313
      @joshw313 7 лет назад

      Thats impossible it lets out some of the lower dens clean air mix each time on its stroke impossible not to because both ports are open at the bottom of the powerstroke. I do agree on one thing they are alot cleaner then the older models for sure really theyre getting to where theyre both going to put out same emissions only a matter of time. Cant beat the smell of a two stroke tho

    • @nate0031
      @nate0031 6 лет назад

      Which motor does the 3D have? 787?

    • @3DPeter
      @3DPeter 6 лет назад

      the RfI has a 782cc enginge and the Di versions have a 951cc

  • @vampov
    @vampov 13 лет назад +1

    @rdyjur "whereas a two stroke there is a slight delay in the power until you hit your max rpm"....the word you are looking for is Powerband and it doesn't occur at the max RPM. And scrogy is correct a 2 stroke will always produce more power and torque (yes I said torque on purpose) than a 4 stroke for the same displacement normally aspirated. It's physics.

    • @patamaran
      @patamaran 8 лет назад

      which is why there will never be competing 4 strokes in the same displacement, my thought was always that this would matter if you could only get 4 strokes in the same displacements as 2 strokes but since the 4 strokes are always made in much higher displacements its a moot point.

  • @TWLML420
    @TWLML420 Год назад

    So a heavier more complicated engine than I had in the early 2000s? I’ve got a 2000 formula deluxe 700 that will keep up with any modern Ski Doo for like 1/10th the price.

  • @mclaynebalzly1739
    @mclaynebalzly1739 5 лет назад +1

    Who else thinks that they should start putting two strokes like this in cars instead of trying to boost little engines like an ecoboost

    • @danielmook3953
      @danielmook3953 3 года назад

      Or a 2 stroke moto like 79 Kawasaki H2. How great would it be to smoke out a red light then blow away a R1 with a 600 twin.

    • @mclaynebalzly1739
      @mclaynebalzly1739 3 года назад

      @@danielmook3953 yasss

  • @Steph-qg4bu
    @Steph-qg4bu 7 лет назад +8

    But i was raised with 2 stroke smell

  • @jonathanmagaknak5220
    @jonathanmagaknak5220 6 лет назад

    Bombardier should bring back the ZX Chassis Everyone hates the Rev Chassis up North
    like Polaris brought back Indy 600

  • @Tchristman100
    @Tchristman100 7 лет назад +3

    Sure sounds like a converted Evinrude outboard engine.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 4 года назад +1

      Didn't Bombardier buy Evinrude to use their technology? Or were u being kinda sarcastic?

    • @Tchristman100
      @Tchristman100 4 года назад +1

      @@quincee3376 Any of the 2 stroke engines in the snow mobiles are basically the Evinrude outboard engines converted. Now that Bombardier has cancelled the Evinrude outboard engines (big mistake in my book), I'm curious at their next step in marine propulsion.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 4 года назад

      @@Tchristman100 ahhhh. I gotcha. Thx. Btw, do u like 4 strokes in sleds? Or are u more into boating?

    • @Tchristman100
      @Tchristman100 4 года назад +1

      @@quincee3376 4 stroke are always good. A little tricky in cold weather with oil sump.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 4 года назад

      @@Tchristman100 thanks. Happy Holidays to you and your family!

  • @youarebeautiful23
    @youarebeautiful23 11 лет назад

    Our family bought four 2014 800 etec's and they all over heat @ -20 C and conditions that other sleds don't over heat in. 1st new machines in 6 years for us and we are pissed off. All dealerships & Doo's head office claim they have not heard of this problem. Yet it has been going on for years only to get worse this year after their BS fix. The machines are great in every other way, BUT...If you can't ride them for more than 15 minutes without overheating.

    • @maxboisvert6738
      @maxboisvert6738 10 лет назад +2

      we all have etecs 800/600s we don't have any overheating problem even at 0 celcius

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад +1

    @quincee33 I haven't been a fan of diesel cars. They never seemed worth it for the price just to save some gas money although if it was that or hybrid I would get a diesel. Diesel is definitely not good for performance cars.
    What I would like to see is DI 2-strokes in cars. It would make them cheaper and more efficient.

    • @quincee3376
      @quincee3376 4 года назад

      Thx for replying!! Not sure if i saw your reply from 9 years ago. Different email account. So thank you for answerimg my many questions, lol. Happy holidays!

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад

    @quincee33 I ride dirt bikes mainly. I also ride street bikes and my uncle has a sick boat. I am also just very interested in the technology(I am a mechanical engineer). I have always wanted to go snowmobiling though.

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад

    @quincee33 The only thing that the laws ban are sleds with high emissions. And like I said before the 2-strokes with DI have better emissions than 4-strokes.
    The same happened to boats a few years ago. Everyone said 2-strokes were getting banned, but you can't ban technology. They just set a emissions cap so the companies developed 2-stroke Direct Injection and now you see them everywhere.
    Now the tech is being passed on to snowmobile. Hopefully motorcycles are next.

  • @dylanengland4113
    @dylanengland4113 5 лет назад

    Nice

  • @philllsxga.7737
    @philllsxga.7737 7 лет назад +2

    My buddies and I have gotten anywhere from 265 to 4800 miles on skidoo engines.. that between 6 different sled's. One of them had 2 yes 2 engines with in 4800 miles. Ski doo would do NOTHING about any of these machines!! JUNK!!!! Never again!!!

  • @MrMaze.
    @MrMaze. 7 лет назад +2

    vittu minä en eetekillä aja mänkööt vaikka kymmen litroo enemmän liberty möyryää minun pellin alla ja piste.

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад

    @TheOfficialKC i guess Yamaha made a mistake putting all their eggs in one basket. i heard they are gonna go back to some 2 strokes after going all 4 stroke.

  • @MnDeerHunter09
    @MnDeerHunter09 13 лет назад

    Now if they could just get there 2 strokes to last longer.

  • @ovalwingnut
    @ovalwingnut 7 лет назад

    155 HP, seriously? That may be fine for my grandma, but what do you have for the hardcore rider? :)

    • @sled_neckx9972
      @sled_neckx9972 5 лет назад

      155hp is a ton, look up power to weight ratio. Maybe you will learn something

  • @SCROGY
    @SCROGY 13 лет назад

    2 strokes - More power per cc. More SUDDEN response (They hit harder). Simpler design. Easier to work on. Less compression braking. The only advantages 4 strokes have come BECAUSE they make less power per cc. 4 strokes blow. I hate 'em.
    And Honda did this Di two stroke thing 20 years ago. It was called the Honda EXP. It had two injectors on the head and shot raw fuel and raw gas into the combustion chamber. They used in on a Baja dirt bike and then it disappeared.

  • @darlansampaio8767
    @darlansampaio8767 8 лет назад

    muito bom

  • @dandee3032
    @dandee3032 Год назад

    wild !!

  • @Fishing38Irkutsk
    @Fishing38Irkutsk Год назад

    🎉

  • @bikemx423
    @bikemx423 12 лет назад

    noooo doubt

  • @direxsleds6364
    @direxsleds6364 9 лет назад +1

    the design for the rave valves with the springs going around the bellows for the e-tec motors is probably the biggest pile of shit Rotax has ever decided to make. The engineers working on the valves definitely didn't graduate first in their class

  • @rc8rsracer
    @rc8rsracer 14 лет назад

    relating to quads your motor sucks im sorry but it has no bottom end and it has blown up already in my quad after 20 hours and thats a huge problem but you sleds are awesome...

  • @quincee33
    @quincee33 14 лет назад

    @TheOfficialKC awesome. i guess Yamaha screwed up big time going all 4 stroke...lol...that's what happens when u put all your eggs in 1 basket.

  • @dylanspencer3662
    @dylanspencer3662 3 года назад

    I’m good I’ll stick with my 800 p-tek that doesn’t feel like a dog on the throttle

  • @rdyjur
    @rdyjur 13 лет назад

    @SCROGY
    I am definitely a 2 stroke guy but i've rode a lot of both in mountains, trails, ditches, praires, etc. you're argument against 4 strokes was awful. stick to your 1980s dirt bikes

  • @MoSDawidson
    @MoSDawidson 7 лет назад

    almost as perpetuum mobile

  • @alvinregular5929
    @alvinregular5929 7 лет назад

    My 2015 summit carb is better then any 600 etec I’ve ever drove

  • @RegondiMusic
    @RegondiMusic 4 года назад

    They should be making cars

  • @SCROGY
    @SCROGY 13 лет назад

    Sorry Ski Doo but you can't tailor a sleds suspension to everyone. Riders of different weights and skill levels need different set ups. That's just physics and you can't solve that problem without adjusting. FACT.

  • @AngryHybridApe
    @AngryHybridApe 5 лет назад

    Not to be confused with "Rotec". A bad name in aviation motors.

  • @SCROGY
    @SCROGY 13 лет назад

    @rdyjur It's is not awful. It's physics dude. You can't argue against it. And it has NOTHING to do with being a bike or a snowmobile. It's about the laws of nature. When there's combustion on every turn of the crank you're going to develop more power and a harder hitting power. You need to learn what a logical fallacy is and quite frankly you also need to go back to physics 101.

  • @TheOfficialKC
    @TheOfficialKC 14 лет назад

    @quincee33 If you weigh the advantages of each there is no reason to go 4-stroke now.
    An 800cc 2-stroke is cheaper to buy, cheaper to maintain, makes 25% more power and weighs 80lbs less than a 1200 4-stroke. And gets the same MPG and emissions.
    A 600cc 2-stroke is much cheaper to buy and maintain, weighs 100lbs less, gets better gas mileage and lower emissions than an equal power 1200 4-stroke.

    • @patamaran
      @patamaran 8 лет назад +1

      and maintain? so when it blows up every 5000miles and the 4 stroke keeps going and going and going......

  • @김김정길-v6e
    @김김정길-v6e 6 лет назад

  • @gavinboot4810
    @gavinboot4810 2 года назад

    That was pathetically self praising,,

  • @tinolino58
    @tinolino58 4 года назад

    Thats 10 years old. Delete it please.. :-)

  • @jarretfournier7346
    @jarretfournier7346 7 лет назад

    E-tecs blow up easly do not buy!!!!

  • @hemihead2626
    @hemihead2626 8 лет назад

    You obviously haven't driven a e-tec !

  • @edstrom980
    @edstrom980 11 лет назад +1

    Rotax the best engines? Are you serious

    • @jondoe6618
      @jondoe6618 11 лет назад +1

      yup!!

    • @swemt2940
      @swemt2940 10 лет назад +3

      well they are in many ways
      1 lowest fuel consumption
      2 lowest oil consumption
      3 most horsepower and torque

    • @TheRealFobican
      @TheRealFobican 9 лет назад

      +swemt Proof?

    • @kayteeemm45
      @kayteeemm45 7 лет назад +2

      are u serious? yes rotax is the best engine in a snowmachine ......by far, you going to try and prove to us why its not, let me guess u own a artic cat , ya that's reliable....lol fuck off

  • @crissd8283
    @crissd8283 8 лет назад +3

    2-cycle engines should be phased out. I know they have more hp per lb but they are nasty, harder on the environment, and don't get the fuel economy of a 4 cycle. With forced induction and build quality a 4cycle and outperform a 2 stroke and be cleaner and more reliable.

    • @BambiOnDayZ
      @BambiOnDayZ 8 лет назад +7

      No, just no. Nothing comes close to the feel of a 2 stroke.

    • @philkennedy8683
      @philkennedy8683 7 лет назад +4

      please do some research. you are comparing old tech two stroke to latest tech four stroke. apples for apples and the discussion is much more even

    • @joeneault785
      @joeneault785 6 лет назад

      no they get BETTER fuel economy dummy,,research shit before spouting off.

  • @nepaoutdoors8536
    @nepaoutdoors8536 3 года назад

    Bought a sled yesterday with those black things on the heads and didn’t know what they were . Now i know, RAVE is cool