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And before any Muslims say, "Well, the Bible has numerous variations, how can you criticize the Quran!" Remember: A) Even IF the Bible were horribly corrupted, (it's not) that would not prove anything about the Quran. B) Christians do not claim perfect preservation, so we have nothing to prove. We believe the Bible was written by MEN inspired by God. Muslims are the ones that claim their scripture was dictated to Muhammed by God via Jibril. C) Christians have access to each generation of ancient manuscripts so that we can test modern versions against them. We know where variations exist and can compare them to older manuscripts. Our Book, that we don't claim perfect transmission for, is more reliable than the Quran which DOES have textual variations (even though your preachers lie that it doesn't) but you have no way to test these variations because your leaders have burned or misplaced the ancient manuscripts.
not to mention that the manuscripts demonstrate our ability to reconstruct the original - which only has 2% minor variation, showing amazing preservation. The Bible is historically trustworthy and morally superior when compared to the Quran and always will be.
The Bible is a collection of books compiled and transmitted by the Church from generation to generation as a single historical document. There are over 31,000 verses in the Bible and only 40 of them are in dispute. That's less than 1% of the total corpus. That in itself is a miracle. Every historical document will have inconsistencies in them because they are preserved by men. Even the koooran that mohemadans claim to have been perfectly preserved has thousands of variants in its manuscripts. I haven't come across a single academician, historian or research scholar who has said that the koooran has been perfectly preserved. I have challenged many mohemadans to name me one such reputed scholar but none have succeeded.
@AKIVE Those are classical attempts of revising a narrative from without. The narrative becomes more trustworthy when the original locations of both are identified. Both the shifts were instigated by the Caliph in whom vested both the temporal and spiritual leadership of the ummah .The first shift was a reaction to an uprising that demanded that Masjidul Haram be the capital of political Islam as well and violently opposed shifting it to the more convenient Damascus. The Caliphate solved the problem through a series of moves during a lengthy civil war by the end of which it was relocated to a place that was conveniently remote such that it could never aspire to dethrone Damascus ! Having discovered the political benefits of historical translocation ,the Caliphate played the same trick with translocation of Al Aqsa to add prestige to itself and declare Islam's suzerainty over Christianity and Judaism at the very heart of their religious geography !
The fun fact is that the translocations that worked so well for the religion for centuries have outlived their shelf life and dangerously work in the direction opposite to what they were intended for . The discovery of oil in the region have given the guardians of the present Al -Masjid Al-Haram unimaginable clout. Seeing the present Mecca will you be able to imagine that this is the same place that lived it's days in as late as the early decades of the 20 th century on such mundane handouts as chairs and tables from distant empires such as Hyderabad? (All the Caliphates with their capitals elsewhere meant to keep matters that way till qayamat day .)Today the spiritual centre once again aspires to be the political centre too ! The upheavals and uprisings wherever Islam is present around the world is a reflection of this reborn Islamic civil war .To blame it on outside forces is wrong and irresponsible.
I watched the entire video. The only conclusion to draw is: The Quran has been perfectly preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Funny how in Anthony's video that you recently published he does something similar. Seems there's an issue with Muslims not wanting to be exposed to the evidence by watching these videos, yet they're "refuting" us in the comments anyway.
@@smk1189 How is that a contradiction? Show me where the Romans verse say that anyone who confesses Jesus and is saved could keep on blaspheming the Holy Spirit of God and remain saved! Next, those who were blaspheming the Holy Spirit in Matthew never confessed Him. Therefore, the words of Jesus was true that they will never receive forgiveness. So, foul ball! Try again!
"You have a CLEAR contradiction in the Bible"..."Sorry but if one is saved by faith in Jesus they won't blaspheme the holy spirit. Case closed." ...guess that wasn't such a clear contradiction after all. It's almost like S MK doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
@@TeyvatTraveler12 Your comment doesn't negate all of church history. Sorry dude. It just shows that a very minute part of the bible was not part of the original manuscripts. And I mean less than 1%. But church history still stands strong. The original Quranic manuscripts were destroyed...at least Christians have an idea from current manuscript evidence, what the originals all said. You don't have that with the Quran because contradictory ideas were systematically eliminated. Even after Uthman.
Yes, you started with my favorite hadith story. Indeed, he couldn't find anyone who had the Qur'an memorized completely, but instead had to compile it from fragments. How much more proof you need?
@Youssef Elfathi _"This guy said absolutely nothing and proved not facts whatsoever. "_ A perfect description of your post... I imagine you didn't even watch the video based on the fact you don't even seem to know the content. My are you so afraid to watch?
@Youssef Elfathi LOL. You made a baseless assertion about the content of the video. You either didn't watch it or have no answers, as if you had an actual counter argument you would give it.
@Youssef Elfathi If it's "nonsense" and "false claims" you should be able to give examples. But instead you sit there calling names. Again, either you didn't watch or are just posturing, or most likely both.
@Youssef Elfathi All you have is rhetoric. If the Quran was true, you could actually defend it, but it seems you can't. I suspect you know deep down Islam is false and are desperately deflecting because you are afraid of leaving it. Stop living in fear and seek truth.
You obviously didn't watch the video. I remember David Wood calling commentators like you keyboard-jihadis. I also didn't read your comment. #SorryNotSorry
Moses pbuh, Jesus pbuh and Muhammad saw worship Allah. Allah is a name to the divine essence (HU sounds in Arabic) Hu is the divine essence, beyond our logic to understand. The first without beginning the last without end. Robbi is the attribute to HU Allah HU Robbi. Allah is the lord and the servant to HI's slaves. May Allah SWT bless us. Amenn .
@@sayedf11 It's amazing how brainwashed you must be to keep defending Islam with all the evidence presented to you that it isn't from God or an angel. is - sun & muddy water.
*J _An* Zirr ibn Hubaish reported: "Ubay ibn Ka'b said to me, 'What is the extent of Suratul-Ahzab (Sura 33)?' I said, 'Seventy, or seventy-three verses'. He said, 'Yet it used to be equal to Suratul-Baqarah (286 ayat) and in it we recited the verse of stoning'. Ubayy ibn Ka'b, one of the four names Muhammad said to take (learn) Quran from. His claim means 213 ayat are missing from Sura al azab. Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.524
Oh my! I had never thought through the lunacy of committing this book to memory which would immediately expose Uthman's corruption of any of the texts. That's why we need YOU, Colin! Every element of this cult makes me think of a county fair bumper-car arena. All running in different direction, smashing into each other, but at least people enjoy themselves at the fair. No enjoyment in this Arab abattoir.
My view on Muhammad, he is a merchant and he travels a lot. He hears stories about God from the Jews and Christian then later make his own religion base from his own understanding of God.
@R. Jau We worship ONE God of the Universe who manifests himself as Father Creator, Spirit which is Omnipresent and Son who is our Redeemer. They are all one and the same YHWH. You on the other hand, whether you realize it or not, worship Muhammad, the black stone, the Kaa'ba, and Allah and his Qur'an. So there's 5 in your deity. Hahahhahahahah!
@R. Jau It's all over the scripture! Have you READ the Old Testament? Hahahahaha! "The Spirit of God moves across the water", "Our Father who art in Heaven", "for unto us a child is born, a son is given, and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace". The word for God, "Elohim" is a pleurality of MORE than 2. Read Muslim READ!
@R. Jau No, not debunked silly. It's HEBREW. You can't debunk a word. Hahahhahaha! El is singular, Eloh is 2 and Elohim is more than 2. The word "Tawhid" isn't in Qur'an either. Just because a word doesn't show up in scripture, doesn't mean the CONCEPT isn't there. How do you explain Isaiah 9:6 then? MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE? Who is that talking about? WHICH Son is that talking about Muslim? Answer the QUESTION!
@R. Jau Talking with you is like talking to a BRICK WALL! What part of GOD CAN BE ANYTHING HE WANTS, don't you understand? But YOUR god, Allah, CAN'T do anything he wants. Let that sink in. If Allah needs a WIFE to have a son, then Allah isn't all-powerful.
@R. Jau Oh Muslim. Do you have ANY idea how many ignorant Muslims I've had this same verbal exchange with? It cracks me up! You never answer any question, just keep slamming one stupid question to ME, and our conversation is pretty much ONE SIDED. So answer me this one Question: "Oh believers! Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day, nor forbid that which Allah and his Messenger forbid, even if they are the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya and feel themselves subdued." WHAT KIND OF DEMONIC GOD WOULD COMMAND THIS. Your fake god sucks, Muslim. And your prophet is dead and turned to dust. No before you go to hell, because Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life- no one comes to the Father except through me", it is your responsibility to read my book, the Bible.
Quran is Historically Incorrect They had lots of meanings changed... Great video my dear brother Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your works... Amen....
And yes of course.. the bible is very correct historically and it doesnt have any contradictions and nothing is changed..😒 The bible literally has many versions with many many different content, false histories and even pornography.. go check your own bible and then come critisize the Quran
@@harsadqanit6344 Oh dear kid you haven't grown Yet ? Allah *himself* said to Muhammad Go and bang your daughter in law By causing his adopted son to divorce her *Quran 33 ; 37* Bible is pornograhy??? Bible says Lord Jesus is God Torah Says Lord Jesus is God . So what's the confusion in that ?? Or let me teach you .. Quran is made from umars Vomit.. Should I prove you that ??
@@RoarT19 here you go.. enjoy reading pornography from your holy bible And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father. And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. - Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 5 - 8. And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. - Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 11 - 21.
haha reference to "The Messenger of Allah said: 'For cleaning yourself you need three stones, no one of them being dung.' sunnah.com/urn/1253140 What a wise man this mo was: 'dung is not for cleaning your ...'
Not much to say on this beside, watched all of the video and became more convinced that Quran, the eternal word of Allah, start being preserved dot by dot, letter by letter, word by word, sound by sound from 703, yet full preservation of the quran completed, dot by dot, letter by letter, word by word, sound by sound in 1984.
“If there are any differences write it in the Quraysh dialect” But the vowelization dots necessary to show dialect differences did not get exist in Uthman’s time!
Islam Critiqued IIRC I read from Tom Holland’s ‘In the Shadow of the Sword’ that it was the same Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf Al-Thakafi (governor of Baghdad) who is credited with adding the diacritical marks and more than 1000 Alif. It is possible that this probably true event was conflated or redacted back onto Uthman’s alleged recension.
By the way, P. Casanova suggested they were one and the same awhile ago: "la recension d’al-Ḥadjdjādj a existé; celle de ʿOuthmân est une fable” (Mohammed et la fin du monde, 2éme fasc., vol. 1 (1913), pp. 110 and 121-129)
A couple of redactions? I suppose, if you had them all here, then you'd be year till the ends of your life. And we definitely don't want that. Your channel is amazingly informative.. Thanks..
I watched the entire video and I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I really appreciate your hard and sincere work brother. I request if possible for you to make a video on “Allah” being the name of the Islamic God and not a title which implies that Muslims openly disrespect even their own God by referring to him by his name when they don’t even take the names of their fathers and call them “Abba” or something similar simply out of respect
4. fiction about oral preservation, it wasn't happening or at all, or in parts, and wasn't affecting preservation at any helpfull way. Oral preservation of the koran is fiction.
If i may, what are the original sources for the accounts of textual changes be Hajjaj? The only report i find is from Kitab Al-Mushif with a deficient Isnad, and a couple Christian sources that you mentioned where the authenticity is apparently questioned.
Some of redactions we're also done to the KJV Bible by the Vatican. Not surprised the Quran had the same issue. Not including texts/ books 📚. Changing the constitutional skeleton of certain words can change an entire message. Good work brother. There are some principles that base a way of thinking/being. Some things are needed, some aren't. IMO that really kind of destroys the timeline of why? It's like having a history of war, peace and land treaties. You figure out what was done and why. How the issues were reconciled or not at all. Who was the antagonist or protagonist. Who was the peace keeper or mediators. Track record. That's why even when you have the most idiotic events in history....there is always a reason or sense of dynamics in the time to reflect on. Gives depth. If you add up treaties and cross reference other countries it makes a difference. No matter how good or bad. Quran Talmud Torah Tafid Dhamapadda Bhramavad Gita Mahabharat Veda Jubilees Apocryphas Maccabees etc. Not disincluding the KJV Bible but there is history prior to it. B.C. Most of manuscripts and documents paved "the way". Requirements in reading. Example: Comprehension of Gaza's recent incidents was easy. Land treaties dispute. A country primarily living in really old testament and parts living Jewish/Yiddish Kabbalah and Talmud. Big differences. Palestinians dress like Mary of Magdalene. Jewish and Muslims amongst Christians. Time traveling just going to the country. Sociological differences don't work there. They aren't based on economic and clothing. It's all tribal lineage(tribes of men/women) based on holy texts. They are just looking at the bigger picture a little too closely without stepping back. Muslims are technically Christians. Rabbi's and the Jewish forget Moses wrote most the books. There are parts of Quran in the KJV Bible. Same with the Talmud/Torah. Jesus had to study all of it.... prior to KJV Bible construction. Abdullah in Cave Yemen. Prophet Muhammad in Cave Hira studying with Jibril/Gabriel for 40 years. Jesus in Cave Bethlehem. Seeing the pattern? Have to recognize each books details in bringing up people. Critiques in ways of life. Fine tuning spiritual warfare. Christ had to pilgrimage every where so there are reminence of Persia, Asia and the Middle east. Studying spiritual warfare you go where the talent is and learn from the best or their pupils. Principals help you manage contradictions or situational dynamics. Even if they are completely against you (dynamics). Most books are written and forged in the desert 🏜️🐪. 🤔"Why'd you pray for rain?" 😶"We're in a desert dude, no water 💧...🌾". What's divination? Looking/searching for water! ☁️ ☁️ 🌧️☁️ 🤔☝️🙄🐪🏜️"Found it". Where there are clouds... Soon as it hits the sand...you can't drink it. 😶🐪"Alamos...I found water over there👉 in that swamp....1 day away! 😶"This friggin🤦 guy.... Pathogens or Rain water"?!? "Go look for a cave with an underground spring." "I AM working on this". 😶🐪🧕👳👳🧕😁🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪"Okay". 🐪🧕😶🐪👳😶😶🐪🤔🐪"TAKE YOUR SCIMITARS...JUST IN CASE (Self Defense)". 🐪🧕😶🐪👳😶😶🐪🤔🐪🐪"Those don't work on Djinn Alamos." 🤔🐪"They are not for Djinn Muhammad". My friend Sammi's real name is Muhammad...so 👍 yeah. Moving on. Days of Kaballah and Rosecrutianism. Cross reference Library of Alexandria. 🐪🤔"You notice whenever you're direct you sound really stern"?! What do you call a two humped 🐫 camel? "Bactrian". "Want to hear something funny... everyone wears burka's and hijabs here....😶🐪🐫 Even the English. Americans are no different." "Hasalam Walakum"
So the answer to your question was "Al Hajjaj" , a govoner under Abd al Malek. I guessed Abd al Malek. I was nearly there , but nearly never won a race.
Dr Jay Smith’ most resent video on the Arabian coins and when they were minted also confuses the Muslim claims on when and where their their religion started.
Few years ago , so many times LORD JESUS Saves my Life from suicide 🙏 ! Ten months before : LORD JESUS was on white horse , in the Air , here on Earth 🌍 in my vision ! Today i Preach in the Street for JESUS ❤️ ADONAI ❤️ ! Greetings from Macedonia ❤️ Shalom ❤️ .
I've noticed you're subscribed to Dan Gibson. Would you ever do a video on the potential for Petra being the original Mecca and other related theories/do some sort of collaboration with Gibson, or do you find another methods of apologetic more potent?
No, his material is widely available. I don't see any need to comment on it. For me personally, it's a closed case. If you take the geography in the Quran and Hadith seriously, as well as the archeology, the evidence for Petra is overwhelming.
Dan Gibson has done sterling work there. Professor Tom Holland was an atheist who investigated the archaeological evidence for the foundation of Islam. He searched scripts, historical accounts, etc.. And then he wrote "In the shadow of the Sword". For him, this became personally life changing because.... He returned to the Church of England. His latest book concerns St. Paul, and his role in history - a book which counters one of the obsessions in Islamic teaching. A case of an atheist studying Islam and becomming a fervent Christian as a result.
Great video I can't believe i use to think Muhhamed himself wrote the Quran or dictated it to a scribe. Im reality we dont even know how much of the Quran we have to day goes back to what he "claimed" was divine revelation.
Have you observed that hadith abrogated Qur'an regarding number of daily prayers? Quran mentioned three times and hadith mentioned five. Today Muslims sticks to five (Hadith's).
I watched the whole video! Great questions from the material. Another I would like to add is: Why did Uthman burn other dialects of the Quran? According to Muslims the answer to variants in the Quran is the various qira'at (readings). Supposedly Allah revealed the Quran to Muhammad in 7 different ways (ie dialects). Uthman would have been burning variant readings sent by Allah!
Were you raised in the South by any chance? You sound a bit like my buddy from Georgia. (btw I'm terrible at distinguishing Southern accents so I'm not even gonna try to guess lol). Great vid, I really like how in-depth you get with research, and your copious citations to Islamic sources. It's the kind of non-Muslim critical scholarship we need more of.
Watched the entire vid! And not a Muslim: but I did have an interesting thought. In the back-and-forth between Christian or Atheistic apologetics channels (atheists may not prefer the term 'apologetics' for their defense of their belief, but it's not to demean whatsoever), I tend to see some level of resistance. 'Here's what you said, here's why I think you're wrong, here's some research why I think that,' etc. Mistakes can be made, of course, but it seems like a good-faith attempt even if one or more parties are misunderstanding either the argument or their answer to it. Thinking of the recent back-'n-forth between Paulogia and Cameron when I type the above, for example. This doesn't seem to happen with Islamic apologetics, does it? Not even the token effort of research: just a bare-bones deflection, if anything. (Or a copy-paste from some random website without even reading the text or watching the vid you're posting it on, but come now) And the thing is: all you're doing is showing them Islamic history. Keep simply digging up Islam's history and shining a light on it. The stench coming off of it will hopefully continue to drive more folks away from it and into the light of truth. Keep it up: been praying for ya.
_"This doesn't seem to happen with Islamic apologetics, does it? "_ Correct. Islam is all about authority, so Islamic "apologetics" mostly focuses on attacking the person (not a scholar, doesn't know Arabic, etc) instead of the argument. Only a tiny, tiny percentage put any real effort in and the rest just copy and paste that.
Surah 85.21 & 22 is about as close as I could find to the "preserved tablet". It seems to be in competition with the tablets Moses brought down from the mountain, but when Muhammad emerged from that cave in Hira, he had no tablet, only a great fear that he'd encountered a demon.
I would love to see you shredding "Dr." Craig Considine in a public debate!! Dr. Considine should be embarrassed with his lack of knowledge about Islam.
If you don’t mind, I will repeat my comment posted on Pfander films a few hours ago. Given the fragmentation of original material, how many of these originate from 6th century Christianity? And then got later on completely deformed, misunderstood and reinterpreted ( adding diacritics happened much later often leading to complete new meanings). For instance the many wives of Muhamed: what if the original intent was related to the many brides (believers) of the bridegroom ( Jesus)? The abolition of adoption in the Quran? What if this was a rejection of this core Christian principle ( the adoption into Sonship, into the body of Christ). Can it be linked to the doctrine of some of these monotheistic splinter groups of early Christianity in the region? I’m sure there are many more.
Uthman could only recover 73 verses? That's an extremely charitable interpretation, considering their reciters still lived. The more likely interpretation is Uthman simply eliminated verses he didn't like. Did Uthman also order the murder of people who recited the "missing" verses, as he ordered the destruction of them in written form?
Ex MUSLIM EEEEEAHHHH!!! ALHAMDULILLAH! ALHAMDULILLAH! I was very deapth muslim in religion, i've learned much of different Islamic sciences: Hadith, Tafsir and so on . But people doesn't even know the real Story of Islam. That's why people believe it. . Chehen writing, by the way. . I love you all. Your working does an amazing work. Islam very very weak. The trouble is a Muslim's conscious. But Islam and Koran has a lot of ( A LOT OF, ALL-OVER QURAN) contradictions. People don't believe it and have a fear of disbelief. . THEY SHOULD KNOW THE REAL STORY OF ISLAM AND KHADITH FOR THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS the Islamic version relies on KHADITH...
How are we not going to end up as "experts" of mohammedan history, text criticism and theology? You are condemning us to only recieve one answer from muslim apologists: "BUT THE BIBLE...."
All religions have reached where they are today because the religious texts were not made available to the common man. Historically, layman followed what and how their religious leaders interpreted the texts and impressed upon them. And, the common man may not have been smart enough, educated enough or maybe they don’t have time enough to pour their heads into the complex religious texts and connect the dots. I strongly believe people like @IC should create reading material which is clearly understood by the layman. Internet still doesn’t reach the layman in every part of the world. So every possible mode of communication should be used to reach them - books (online and printed), youtube, trained apologists etc. @IC I keep insisting this because I am impressed, very impressed by the material you put on RUclips to debunk Islam and to strengthen Life with Christ. You should write books and you should help in creating more apologists. I am impressed with David Wood’s initiative to create a Apologetics Empire.
I watched the entire video. As a Christian I can only think the memorization of a book as screwed up as the Quran would certainly cause some degree of brain damage. It's like they took much of the Judaeo Christian texts and ran them through a paper shredded then tried to piece them back together.
@@ReasonedAnswers lining in India and seriously not fluent in Hindi or Urdu, I could translate in Kannada bit its a language that is spoken by south Indian Hindus. I'm trying to get someone to help with Urdu.
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God bless you my brother. Left to our own struggles me and you would likely be at each other's throats in our internecine Christian fights. While we fight amongst each other, we need the brothers who fend off the attacks. I might have Christian difficulties with your Christianity. But I appreciate your work. Keep going, my brother. I might think you're a heretic, but you're my heretical brother
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@islam Critiqued if it's expensive pig bone related research we can talk moolah
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@@paynedv stop listening to them, you'll be a regular Einstein in no time 😉
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And before any Muslims say, "Well, the Bible has numerous variations, how can you criticize the Quran!" Remember:
A) Even IF the Bible were horribly corrupted, (it's not) that would not prove anything about the Quran.
B) Christians do not claim perfect preservation, so we have nothing to prove. We believe the Bible was written by MEN inspired by God. Muslims are the ones that claim their scripture was dictated to Muhammed by God via Jibril.
C) Christians have access to each generation of ancient manuscripts so that we can test modern versions against them. We know where variations exist and can compare them to older manuscripts. Our Book, that we don't claim perfect transmission for, is more reliable than the Quran which DOES have textual variations (even though your preachers lie that it doesn't) but you have no way to test these variations because your leaders have burned or misplaced the ancient manuscripts.
not to mention that the manuscripts demonstrate our ability to reconstruct the original - which only has 2% minor variation, showing amazing preservation. The Bible is historically trustworthy and morally superior when compared to the Quran and always will be.
The Bible is a collection of books compiled and transmitted by the Church from generation to generation as a single historical document.
There are over 31,000 verses in the Bible and only 40 of them are in dispute. That's less than 1% of the total corpus. That in itself is a miracle. Every historical document will have inconsistencies in them because they are preserved by men.
Even the koooran that mohemadans claim to have been perfectly preserved has thousands of variants in its manuscripts. I haven't come across a single academician, historian or research scholar who has said that the koooran has been perfectly preserved. I have challenged many mohemadans to name me one such reputed scholar but none have succeeded.
@AKIVE Islam is an intellectual coffin; Muslims are forbidden to think [s 33.36].
@AKIVE Those are classical attempts of revising a narrative from without. The narrative becomes more trustworthy when the original locations of both are identified. Both the shifts were instigated by the Caliph in whom vested both the temporal and spiritual leadership of the ummah .The first shift was a reaction to an uprising that demanded that Masjidul Haram be the capital of political Islam as well and violently opposed shifting it to the more convenient Damascus. The Caliphate solved the problem through a series of moves during a lengthy civil war by the end of which it was relocated to a place that was conveniently remote such that it could never aspire to dethrone Damascus ! Having discovered the political benefits of historical translocation ,the Caliphate played the same trick with translocation of Al Aqsa to add prestige to itself and declare Islam's suzerainty over Christianity and Judaism at the very heart of their religious geography !
The fun fact is that the translocations that worked so well for the religion for centuries have outlived their shelf life and dangerously work in the direction opposite to what they were intended for . The discovery of oil in the region have given the guardians of the present Al -Masjid Al-Haram unimaginable clout. Seeing the present Mecca will you be able to imagine that this is the same place that lived it's days in as late as the early decades of the 20 th century on such mundane handouts as chairs and tables from distant empires such as Hyderabad? (All the Caliphates with their capitals elsewhere meant to keep matters that way till qayamat day .)Today the spiritual centre once again aspires to be the political centre too ! The upheavals and uprisings wherever Islam is present around the world is a reflection of this reborn Islamic civil war .To blame it on outside forces is wrong and irresponsible.
I watched the entire video. The only conclusion to draw is: The Quran has been perfectly preserved, right down to the letter, from the time it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad (PBUH).
Funny how in Anthony's video that you recently published he does something similar. Seems there's an issue with Muslims not wanting to be exposed to the evidence by watching these videos, yet they're "refuting" us in the comments anyway.
@@gunnerboy169
Thanks man
@@smk1189
How is that a contradiction?
Show me where the Romans verse say that anyone who confesses Jesus and is saved could keep on blaspheming the Holy Spirit of God and remain saved!
Next, those who were blaspheming the Holy Spirit in Matthew never confessed Him. Therefore, the words of Jesus was true that they will never receive forgiveness.
So, foul ball! Try again!
@@smk1189
Sorry but if one is saved by faith in Jesus they won't blaspheme the holy spirit. Case closed.
"You have a CLEAR contradiction in the Bible"..."Sorry but if one is saved by faith in Jesus they won't blaspheme the holy spirit. Case closed."
...guess that wasn't such a clear contradiction after all. It's almost like S MK doesn't have a clue what he's talking about.
Beware of Quranovirus...stay safe guys
Thank goodness quranovirus is counteracted by the vaccine known as history.
No 72 virgins for you again.
Allahu snackbar 🤣🤣🤣
@@prayunceasingly2029 No more like the Bible is the anti-virus vaccine.
@@deonliberator8953
Muslims claim the bible was corrupted by man. History shows us it wasn't
@@TeyvatTraveler12
Your comment doesn't negate all of church history. Sorry dude. It just shows that a very minute part of the bible was not part of the original manuscripts. And I mean less than 1%. But church history still stands strong.
The original Quranic manuscripts were destroyed...at least Christians have an idea from current manuscript evidence, what the originals all said. You don't have that with the Quran because contradictory ideas were systematically eliminated. Even after Uthman.
Yes, you started with my favorite hadith story. Indeed, he couldn't find anyone who had the Qur'an memorized completely, but instead had to compile it from fragments. How much more proof you need?
His job should have been incredibly easy. Just some occasional writer’s cramp.
Like newspaper hacks say 'if you can't find a story, then make one up'!!
There are over 80 million Muslims around the world who have memorised the Quran and this fool can't find one 😂😂😂
This is one of your best and most important videos to date. I will be sharing it far and wide.
@Youssef Elfathi _"This guy said absolutely nothing and proved not facts whatsoever.
"_ A perfect description of your post... I imagine you didn't even watch the video based on the fact you don't even seem to know the content. My are you so afraid to watch?
@Youssef Elfathi LOL. You made a baseless assertion about the content of the video. You either didn't watch it or have no answers, as if you had an actual counter argument you would give it.
@Youssef Elfathi Why do Muslims lie about "perfect preservation" of the Quran?
@Youssef Elfathi If it's "nonsense" and "false claims" you should be able to give examples. But instead you sit there calling names. Again, either you didn't watch or are just posturing, or most likely both.
@Youssef Elfathi All you have is rhetoric. If the Quran was true, you could actually defend it, but it seems you can't. I suspect you know deep down Islam is false and are desperately deflecting because you are afraid of leaving it. Stop living in fear and seek truth.
Welldone sir, once again delivering a good content.
I watched the entire video. Of course, I’m not a Muslim so I want to know the truth.
@@sayedf11 how come muhammad was zo immoral if he was a prophet of God?
You obviously didn't watch the video. I remember David Wood calling commentators like you keyboard-jihadis.
I also didn't read your comment. #SorryNotSorry
@sayedf11
@sayedf11 nice copy and paste.
Moses pbuh, Jesus pbuh and Muhammad saw worship Allah.
Allah is a name to the divine essence (HU sounds in Arabic)
Hu is the divine essence, beyond our logic to understand. The first without beginning the last without end.
Robbi is the attribute to HU
Allah HU Robbi.
Allah is the lord and the servant to HI's slaves.
May Allah SWT bless us.
Amenn .
I love the smell of book burning in the morning.
sayedf11 boy o boy you must have a massive book fire where you are if you expect me to smell it soon. I’m on the other side of the world.
@@sayedf11
It's amazing how brainwashed you must be to keep defending Islam with all the evidence presented to you that it isn't from God or an angel.
is - sun & muddy water.
@@sayedf11 levantine dog
@@sayedf11 uthman was the first quran-burning man, do you disagree with his work?
Especially when it's a Satanic book of lies and corruption.
Stones , leather, bone's etc.. was "preserved" in Islamic heaven . I've heard it all brother 😁🔜✝🔥 KZN South Africa👏💞🎸🇮🇱💪🇿🇦
Earth shattering to Muslims who firmly believe the Koran had never changed. Brilliant work
I hope Indonesians watch this till the end
Good job I did not know that chapter 33 is missing over 100 verses until watching this 💪🔥🔥
Or more...who knows.
Also sura 9 is almost same as albaqara
@@anadion6257 Oh I missed that part 🤦😂
*J _An* Zirr ibn Hubaish reported: "Ubay ibn Ka'b said to me, 'What is the extent of Suratul-Ahzab (Sura 33)?' I said, 'Seventy, or seventy-three verses'. He said, 'Yet it used to be equal to Suratul-Baqarah (286 ayat) and in it we recited the verse of stoning'. Ubayy ibn Ka'b, one of the four names Muhammad said to take (learn) Quran from. His claim means 213 ayat are missing from Sura al azab. Suyuti, Al-Itqan fii Ulum al-Qur'an, p.524
@@FreeRadical7118 Thank you 💯
Thank you for again a great insight in truth. Be blessed!
Colin is excellent again. It is amazing how he manages to pack in so much material and study in such short succinct videos.
"complete fiction/nonsense" Yep, that about sums it up quite nicely.
I have a chair that I sit in to watch these videos.
What a coincidence! I have a chair I sit in when I’m producing them.
@@IslamCritiqued lol
Oh my! I had never thought through the lunacy of committing this book to memory which would immediately expose Uthman's corruption of any of the texts. That's why we need YOU, Colin! Every element of this cult makes me think of a county fair bumper-car arena. All running in different direction, smashing into each other, but at least people enjoy themselves at the fair. No enjoyment in this Arab abattoir.
My view on Muhammad, he is a merchant and he travels a lot. He hears stories about God from the Jews and Christian then later make his own religion base from his own understanding of God.
Destroying Islam, one Islamic text at a time! ❤️
@R. Jau We worship ONE God of the Universe who manifests himself as Father Creator, Spirit which is Omnipresent and Son who is our Redeemer. They are all one and the same YHWH. You on the other hand, whether you realize it or not, worship Muhammad, the black stone, the Kaa'ba, and Allah and his Qur'an. So there's 5 in your deity. Hahahhahahahah!
@R. Jau It's all over the scripture! Have you READ the Old Testament? Hahahahaha! "The Spirit of God moves across the water", "Our Father who art in Heaven", "for unto us a child is born, a son is given, and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, the Everlasting Father and the Prince of Peace". The word for God, "Elohim" is a pleurality of MORE than 2. Read Muslim READ!
@R. Jau No, not debunked silly. It's HEBREW. You can't debunk a word. Hahahhahaha! El is singular, Eloh is 2 and Elohim is more than 2. The word "Tawhid" isn't in Qur'an either. Just because a word doesn't show up in scripture, doesn't mean the CONCEPT isn't there. How do you explain Isaiah 9:6 then? MIGHTY GOD, EVERLASTING FATHER, PRINCE OF PEACE? Who is that talking about? WHICH Son is that talking about Muslim? Answer the QUESTION!
@R. Jau Talking with you is like talking to a BRICK WALL! What part of GOD CAN BE ANYTHING HE WANTS, don't you understand? But YOUR god, Allah, CAN'T do anything he wants. Let that sink in. If Allah needs a WIFE to have a son, then Allah isn't all-powerful.
@R. Jau Oh Muslim. Do you have ANY idea how many ignorant Muslims I've had this same verbal exchange with? It cracks me up! You never answer any question, just keep slamming one stupid question to ME, and our conversation is pretty much ONE SIDED. So answer me this one Question: "Oh believers! Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the last day, nor forbid that which Allah and his Messenger forbid, even if they are the people of the book, until they pay the Jizya and feel themselves subdued." WHAT KIND OF DEMONIC GOD WOULD COMMAND THIS. Your fake god sucks, Muslim. And your prophet is dead and turned to dust. No before you go to hell, because Jesus said, "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life- no one comes to the Father except through me", it is your responsibility to read my book, the Bible.
Quran is Historically Incorrect
They had lots of meanings changed...
Great video my dear brother
Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your works...
Amen....
@R. Jau
Yeah yeah.
I worship the only creator who is capable of taking me to Eternity.
Not idol or cube
And yes of course.. the bible is very correct historically and it doesnt have any contradictions and nothing is changed..😒
The bible literally has many versions with many many different content, false histories and even pornography..
go check your own bible and then come critisize the Quran
@@harsadqanit6344
Oh dear kid you haven't grown Yet ?
Allah *himself* said to Muhammad
Go and bang your daughter in law
By causing his adopted son to divorce her
*Quran 33 ; 37*
Bible is pornograhy???
Bible says Lord Jesus is God
Torah Says Lord Jesus is God .
So what's the confusion in that ??
Or let me teach you ..
Quran is made from umars Vomit..
Should I prove you that ??
@@RoarT19 here you go.. enjoy reading pornography from your holy bible
And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, and lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose. Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.
And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours, Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses. Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself. Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her. - Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 5 - 8.
And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms. She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men. Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way, And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion, Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea. And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them. So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister. Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt. For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses. Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth. - Bible : Ezekiel (23) : 11 - 21.
@@harsadqanit6344
That's what I said
Show me a statement
Where did God himself
Told them to do this ???
Cant you understand english ??
God bless you brother!
Keep revealing the TRUTH.
Slowly Islam will crumble to its demise.
They gathered "stones" to compile the quran?! I hope they didn't use any stones they found in groups of 3!!
I see what you did there!
haha reference to "The Messenger of Allah said: 'For cleaning yourself you need three stones, no one of them being dung.'
sunnah.com/urn/1253140
What a wise man this mo was: 'dung is not for cleaning your ...'
NICE!
Not much to say on this beside, watched all of the video and became more convinced that Quran, the eternal word of Allah, start being preserved dot by dot, letter by letter, word by word, sound by sound from 703, yet full preservation of the quran completed, dot by dot, letter by letter, word by word, sound by sound in 1984.
I enjoy the charts and spreadsheets on facts presented it helps to create a synopsis of your findings.
I watched the entire video. Thankyou so much.
I watched the entire video. Thank you, Colin, for bringing so many things together in one place.
Mohammad had a secretary, so why wasn't the quran written down as it was revealed.?????????
@Elisha Very informative, thankyou
Great work, brother! Keep it up!
“If there are any differences write it in the Quraysh dialect”
But the vowelization dots necessary to show dialect differences did not get exist in Uthman’s time!
So many anachronisms...
Islam Critiqued IIRC I read from Tom Holland’s ‘In the Shadow of the Sword’ that it was the same Al-Hajjaj ibn Yusuf Al-Thakafi (governor of Baghdad) who is credited with adding the diacritical marks and more than 1000 Alif.
It is possible that this probably true event was conflated or redacted back onto Uthman’s alleged recension.
I have considered that. There are some similarities between the two.
By the way, P. Casanova suggested they were one and the same awhile ago: "la recension d’al-Ḥadjdjādj a existé; celle
de ʿOuthmân est une fable” (Mohammed et la fin du monde, 2éme fasc., vol. 1 (1913), pp. 110 and 121-129)
Excellent idea, having the questions as text on the screen. It's easy to ignore them when they are just spoken.
A couple of redactions? I suppose, if you had them all here, then you'd be year till the ends of your life. And we definitely don't want that. Your channel is amazingly informative.. Thanks..
This should be the end of islam and the idea that the quran was perfectly preserved.
@James Hall Tell him.
Ah, sayed, argumentum ad populum. You truly are full of fallacies
Woohoo! Another video....this stuff is like crack.
ITS BETTER THAN CRACK!
Brilliant. I love this guy)))
Thnx for your work!
Great work ..God bless !
What is it with this religion and the destruction of information and history?
It's not just the Quran either. Muslims frequently burn the books of their own scholars when an opposing view becomes dominant.
@@IslamCritiqued
It begs the question, though, what kind of cultural malady could render a religion so utterly averse to knowledge?
You could say it’s part of the “shame/honor” culture but there has to be more to it.
Islam Critiqued. Didn’t they burn texts or toss them in the Nile after the 1924 version was written down?
Yes.
Always. Very informative.
God bless to our warrior in CHRIST!!!
He really doesn't like it lololol....the name of the pig bone user...Al-Hajjaj...Thanks that is a whole lot of change for an unchange Quran wow
I mean he REALLY didn't like it.
@James Hall
So why did 9 year old aisha keep a pig in her bed?
“So why did 9 year old aisha keep a pig in her bed?” She was nine. She didn’t have a choice. What’s she supposed to do, kick Muhammad out?
@@IslamCritiqued 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jxcess3891 source please.
The way that the Quran was assembled is so odd.
If Christians did this, they’d be obliterated and mocked 😂
There is a serious double standard, has been especially since the 10th century.
I watched the entire video and I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I really appreciate your hard and sincere work brother. I request if possible for you to make a video on “Allah” being the name of the Islamic God and not a title which implies that Muslims openly disrespect even their own God by referring to him by his name when they don’t even take the names of their fathers and call them “Abba” or something similar simply out of respect
Just want to say that Allah in arabic language means the god
You realize Arab Christians, the oldest Christians... Say Allah as well. Fake Christian you are
Keep up the "Good News" mate!
4. fiction about oral preservation, it wasn't happening or at all, or in parts, and wasn't affecting preservation at any helpfull way. Oral preservation of the koran is fiction.
Brilliant!! Thank you!
I watched the whole video. 😂 Thank you for all your efforts. Your videos are fantastic.
Thanks for this!
If i may, what are the original sources for the accounts of textual changes be Hajjaj? The only report i find is from Kitab Al-Mushif with a deficient Isnad, and a couple Christian sources that you mentioned where the authenticity is apparently questioned.
Email me. I’ll send you an article that might help.
Awesome video! Thank you for your work.
I watched the entire video.
17.5 now brother. you're growing!
Some of redactions we're also done to the KJV Bible by the Vatican. Not surprised the Quran had the same issue. Not including texts/ books 📚. Changing the constitutional skeleton of certain words can change an entire message.
Good work brother.
There are some principles that base a way of thinking/being. Some things are needed, some aren't. IMO that really kind of destroys the timeline of why?
It's like having a history of war, peace and land treaties. You figure out what was done and why. How the issues were reconciled or not at all. Who was the antagonist or protagonist. Who was the peace keeper or mediators. Track record.
That's why even when you have the most idiotic events in history....there is always a reason or sense of dynamics in the time to reflect on. Gives depth.
If you add up treaties and cross reference other countries it makes a difference. No matter how good or bad. Quran Talmud Torah Tafid Dhamapadda Bhramavad Gita Mahabharat Veda Jubilees Apocryphas Maccabees etc. Not disincluding the KJV Bible but there is history prior to it. B.C.
Most of manuscripts and documents paved "the way". Requirements in reading.
Example:
Comprehension of Gaza's recent incidents was easy. Land treaties dispute. A country primarily living in really old testament and parts living Jewish/Yiddish Kabbalah and Talmud. Big differences. Palestinians dress like Mary of Magdalene. Jewish and Muslims amongst Christians. Time traveling just going to the country.
Sociological differences don't work there. They aren't based on economic and clothing. It's all tribal lineage(tribes of men/women) based on holy texts. They are just looking at the bigger picture a little too closely without stepping back.
Muslims are technically Christians. Rabbi's and the Jewish forget Moses wrote most the books. There are parts of Quran in the KJV Bible. Same with the Talmud/Torah.
Jesus had to study all of it.... prior to KJV Bible construction.
Abdullah in Cave Yemen.
Prophet Muhammad in Cave Hira studying with Jibril/Gabriel for 40 years.
Jesus in Cave Bethlehem.
Seeing the pattern?
Have to recognize each books details in bringing up people. Critiques in ways of life. Fine tuning spiritual warfare.
Christ had to pilgrimage every where so there are reminence of Persia, Asia and the Middle east. Studying spiritual warfare you go where the talent is and learn from the best or their pupils. Principals help you manage contradictions or situational dynamics. Even if they are completely against you (dynamics).
Most books are written and forged in the desert 🏜️🐪. 🤔"Why'd you pray for rain?" 😶"We're in a desert dude, no water 💧...🌾".
What's divination? Looking/searching for water!
☁️ ☁️ 🌧️☁️
🤔☝️🙄🐪🏜️"Found it". Where there are clouds...
Soon as it hits the sand...you can't drink it.
😶🐪"Alamos...I found water over there👉 in that swamp....1 day away!
😶"This friggin🤦 guy.... Pathogens or Rain water"?!? "Go look for a cave with an underground spring." "I AM working on this".
😶🐪🧕👳👳🧕😁🐪🐪🐪🐪🐪"Okay".
🐪🧕😶🐪👳😶😶🐪🤔🐪"TAKE YOUR SCIMITARS...JUST IN CASE (Self Defense)".
🐪🧕😶🐪👳😶😶🐪🤔🐪🐪"Those don't work on Djinn Alamos."
🤔🐪"They are not for Djinn Muhammad". My friend Sammi's real name is Muhammad...so 👍 yeah. Moving on.
Days of Kaballah and Rosecrutianism.
Cross reference Library of Alexandria.
🐪🤔"You notice whenever you're direct you sound really stern"?! What do you call a two humped 🐫 camel? "Bactrian".
"Want to hear something funny... everyone wears burka's and hijabs here....😶🐪🐫 Even the English. Americans are no different." "Hasalam Walakum"
Absolutely fantastic research done IC! There is no doubt any more of this book.
So the answer to your question was "Al Hajjaj" , a govoner under Abd al Malek.
I guessed Abd al Malek.
I was nearly there , but nearly never won a race.
you are the best - sharing
Dr Jay Smith’ most resent video on the Arabian coins and when they were minted also confuses the Muslim claims on when and where their their religion started.
ruclips.net/video/wJuXukY4QNU/видео.html
Few years ago , so many times LORD JESUS Saves my Life from suicide 🙏 ! Ten months before : LORD JESUS was on white horse , in the Air , here on Earth 🌍 in my vision ! Today i Preach in the Street for JESUS ❤️ ADONAI ❤️ ! Greetings from Macedonia ❤️ Shalom ❤️ .
@@sayedf11 stay there
Please share your testimonies... Spread the kindness of Lord Jesus Christ ☝🥰🤗
I've noticed you're subscribed to Dan Gibson. Would you ever do a video on the potential for Petra being the original Mecca and other related theories/do some sort of collaboration with Gibson, or do you find another methods of apologetic more potent?
No, his material is widely available. I don't see any need to comment on it. For me personally, it's a closed case. If you take the geography in the Quran and Hadith seriously, as well as the archeology, the evidence for Petra is overwhelming.
@@IslamCritiqued Thanks for the response. Good to know. Keep up the good work, God bless.
Dan Gibson has done sterling work there.
Professor Tom Holland was an atheist who investigated the archaeological evidence for the foundation of Islam. He searched scripts, historical accounts, etc.. And then he wrote "In the shadow of the Sword". For him, this became personally life changing because.... He returned to the Church of England.
His latest book concerns St. Paul, and his role in history - a book which counters one of the obsessions in Islamic teaching.
A case of an atheist studying Islam and becomming a fervent Christian as a result.
Great video I can't believe i use to think Muhhamed himself wrote the Quran or dictated it to a scribe. Im reality we dont even know how much of the Quran we have to day goes back to what he "claimed" was divine revelation.
Not even the Caliph knew what was in the Quran 😂
It still boggles my mind why obviously no muslim in Muhammad's time remembered the ayat that were eaten by Aisha's sheep (or goat).
@Abdullah Ibn Umar Still it cannot be recited as all other ayat are.
Excellent. 👍
Have you observed that hadith abrogated Qur'an regarding number of daily prayers? Quran mentioned three times and hadith mentioned five. Today Muslims sticks to five (Hadith's).
Yep, and it's not an isolated example. I estimate 80% of Islamic teaching and practice comes from the hadith alone without any Quranic support.
Thanks brother i'm downloading it and God bless you and your family in Jesus name Amen.
Just found out that the Hadith about 200 verses missing is weak and the narrator is rejected…
I watched the video untill the end,and enjoyed it very much.
I watched the whole video! Great questions from the material. Another I would like to add is:
Why did Uthman burn other dialects of the Quran?
According to Muslims the answer to variants in the Quran is the various qira'at (readings). Supposedly Allah revealed the Quran to Muhammad in 7 different ways (ie dialects). Uthman would have been burning variant readings sent by Allah!
Good question. 7 "different dialects" which somehow existed before the diacritical marks were added to Arabic, no less.
The 7 readings weren't canonized until the 10th century. This was forced because of...what was it...oh yeah. VARIANTS IN THE QURANS.
Were you raised in the South by any chance? You sound a bit like my buddy from Georgia.
(btw I'm terrible at distinguishing Southern accents so I'm not even gonna try to guess lol).
Great vid, I really like how in-depth you get with research, and your copious citations to Islamic sources. It's the kind of non-Muslim critical scholarship we need more of.
Could you do a show with Lloyd de Jongh?
I watched the whole video 😡
I’m a Christian and I approve 😊
I only understand english little bit..😔😔can somebody make malay@indo subtitles?help me.
muhamMAD was good in copy and paste..
Watched the entire vid!
And not a Muslim: but I did have an interesting thought.
In the back-and-forth between Christian or Atheistic apologetics channels (atheists may not prefer the term 'apologetics' for their defense of their belief, but it's not to demean whatsoever), I tend to see some level of resistance.
'Here's what you said, here's why I think you're wrong, here's some research why I think that,' etc.
Mistakes can be made, of course, but it seems like a good-faith attempt even if one or more parties are misunderstanding either the argument or their answer to it.
Thinking of the recent back-'n-forth between Paulogia and Cameron when I type the above, for example.
This doesn't seem to happen with Islamic apologetics, does it? Not even the token effort of research: just a bare-bones deflection, if anything.
(Or a copy-paste from some random website without even reading the text or watching the vid you're posting it on, but come now)
And the thing is: all you're doing is showing them Islamic history.
Keep simply digging up Islam's history and shining a light on it. The stench coming off of it will hopefully continue to drive more folks away from it and into the light of truth.
Keep it up: been praying for ya.
_"This doesn't seem to happen with Islamic apologetics, does it? "_ Correct. Islam is all about authority, so Islamic "apologetics" mostly focuses on attacking the person (not a scholar, doesn't know Arabic, etc) instead of the argument. Only a tiny, tiny percentage put any real effort in and the rest just copy and paste that.
Who made the earliest claims of the Quran's perfect preservation? Did early Muslims make this claim? Or did that happen later?
I correspond occasionally with a specialist in this area. This is the only question I've asked him that he doesn't know.
Oh, note that this was not an early claim. This is in contrast to the Quran's "inimitability".
Surah 85.21 & 22 is about as close as I could find to the "preserved tablet". It seems to be in competition with the tablets Moses brought down from the mountain, but when Muhammad emerged from that cave in Hira, he had no tablet, only a great fear that he'd encountered a demon.
I would love to see you shredding "Dr." Craig Considine in a public debate!! Dr. Considine should be embarrassed with his lack of knowledge about Islam.
Thank you so much , God bless you
After watching one of your video, you tube asked me what I thought about your video. You are on their red list
Why Uthman burnt all the quran manuscripts
Prophet Islam Critiqued pbuh I’m amazed with your psychic power 🤩 MashallaT bruddar ! Did your shaytan command you for good today?
If you don’t mind, I will repeat my comment posted on Pfander films a few hours ago.
Given the fragmentation of original material, how many of these originate from 6th century Christianity? And then got later on completely deformed, misunderstood and reinterpreted ( adding diacritics happened much later often leading to complete new meanings).
For instance the many wives of Muhamed: what if the original intent was related to the many brides (believers) of the bridegroom ( Jesus)?
The abolition of adoption in the Quran? What if this was a rejection of this core Christian principle ( the adoption into Sonship, into the body of Christ). Can it be linked to the doctrine of some of these monotheistic splinter groups of early Christianity in the region?
I’m sure there are many more.
Where is the comment to this video about the authors of the Koran knowing it was false but used it to control people? I can’t find it.
I had a question.. is the Kalam Cosmological Argument the only positive contribution Islam has given to the world? WLC uses the KCA all the time..
Colin maybe I've missed them but you ever tackle the so called Quran science claims?
That is, in my mind, below Zakir Naik level stupidity. I have a hard time justifying the time and effort.
@@IslamCritiqued I have to admit it will lower your IQ. Personally I love tackling the so called quran scientific miracles with Muslims.
Uthman could only recover 73 verses? That's an extremely charitable interpretation, considering their reciters still lived. The more likely interpretation is Uthman simply eliminated verses he didn't like. Did Uthman also order the murder of people who recited the "missing" verses, as he ordered the destruction of them in written form?
Where are the Manuscripts at? Huh? YOU DESTROYED THE EVIDENCE
Ex MUSLIM EEEEEAHHHH!!!
ALHAMDULILLAH! ALHAMDULILLAH!
I was very deapth muslim in religion, i've learned much of different Islamic sciences: Hadith, Tafsir and so on
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But people doesn't even know the real Story of Islam. That's why people believe it.
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Chehen writing, by the way.
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I love you all. Your working does an amazing work. Islam very very weak. The trouble is a Muslim's conscious. But Islam and Koran has a lot of ( A LOT OF, ALL-OVER QURAN) contradictions. People don't believe it and have a fear of disbelief.
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THEY SHOULD KNOW THE REAL STORY OF ISLAM AND KHADITH FOR THAT. BUT THE PROBLEM IS the Islamic version relies on KHADITH...
Can we then conclude then that the Quran we have today is essentially man made and nothing divine. Period.
0:46 Did Muhammad not believe in having his Quran written on paper?
Correct. It is an innovation... and you know what Islam says about innovations.
How are we not going to end up as "experts" of mohammedan history, text criticism and theology?
You are condemning us to only recieve one answer from muslim apologists: "BUT THE BIBLE...."
Why should Quran be written in the dialect of Qureish, unless Quran was in Leventine Arabic?
All religions have reached where they are today because the religious texts were not made available to the common man. Historically, layman followed what and how their religious leaders interpreted the texts and impressed upon them. And, the common man may not have been smart enough, educated enough or maybe they don’t have time enough to pour their heads into the complex religious texts and connect the dots. I strongly believe people like @IC should create reading material which is clearly understood by the layman. Internet still doesn’t reach the layman in every part of the world. So every possible mode of communication should be used to reach them - books (online and printed), youtube, trained apologists etc.
@IC I keep insisting this because I am impressed, very impressed by the material you put on RUclips to debunk Islam and to strengthen Life with Christ. You should write books and you should help in creating more apologists. I am impressed with David Wood’s initiative to create a Apologetics Empire.
(Muslims) "We want the TRUTH"
(Collin) "You can't handle the TRUTH"
(Lord Jesus Christ) "I am the TRUTH"
I watched the whole video. You where right. Also I'm a christian and not a muslim. XD
Your video had 666 likes. I corrected it, mate 👍
I watched the entire video. As a Christian I can only think the memorization of a book as screwed up as the Quran would certainly cause some degree of brain damage. It's like they took much of the Judaeo Christian texts and ran them through a paper shredded then tried to piece them back together.
I watched the entire video, I think you are the man.
I think you are...dannzman. Glad you enjoyed!
Your videos should be translated for non English speaking people, Urdu and Arabic would be fruitful
That's being considered by some.
If you are able, please consider translating some yourself.
@@ReasonedAnswers lining in India and seriously not fluent in Hindi or Urdu, I could translate in Kannada bit its a language that is spoken by south Indian Hindus. I'm trying to get someone to help with Urdu.
Hmm I have recently been mysteriously unsubscribed from islam critiqued, apostate prophet, ab sameer & acts17 not by my decision! how many other people are experiencing this?
That's odd!
"I would love to be unsubscribed from Islam Critiqued and then re-subscribe and then get unsubscribed, and then re-subscribe again and then get unsubscribed and then re-subscribe again and..." :)
@@ReasonedAnswers Did you plagiarise that?
@@fredsanford7136 Allah revealed it to me... so yes.
Allah revealed something else to me, so mine abrogates yours.
Allah , Muhmmad, Gibrail, Shatan all one and only .
I watch the entire videos & bear witnesses that koran is unpreserved... ☝✊🎖 Thank you @Islam Critiqued, carry on 🙏🥰🤗
God bless you my brother. Left to our own struggles me and you would likely be at each other's throats in our internecine Christian fights. While we fight amongst each other, we need the brothers who fend off the attacks.
I might have Christian difficulties with your Christianity. But I appreciate your work. Keep going, my brother. I might think you're a heretic, but you're my heretical brother