Anytime the Gospel of Thomas talks about seeds and gardens, it’s talking about the seed (being the hidden portion of God within you) is sewn in the garden (the garden being the mind).
Yea he's definitely not. He's talking about moments and memories. You'll understand when your code comes back to you in the end. Through jesus karma is cut in half and paid for by him. This is the reason you are meant to be thankful. Hypothetically.
@@GrantCondermoments and memories… happen in the garden buddy. Either way neither of you know nor do I. We didn’t write the text or interview the writer.
Unfortunately Gnosotic gospels are fake . all this alternative version of christianity is all fake.. If you really want to know Jesus teachings , look no further than Urantia BOOK , life and teachings of Jesus , is the final chapter. And surprinsingly follows the teachings of the bible when it comes to JESUS teachings almost to the letter. The difference is that there are more stores of Jesus in tha book that in the bible and that it fills the holes in the bible in many areas. explain things in much more details.. For example there is a chapter in the gospels that speak about a naked man ,during Jesus arrest. that was like out of place in the narrative. when you read the Urantia version of Gospels , it turns to be that naked man was one of Jesus followers that the Roman soldiers tried to arrest , and grab him by the tunic. and in the fighting he managed to escape by detaching from his tunic , that they were holding. it also explain all Jesus visits and discourses during his resurrection day , there was hundreds of appearances of Jesus to his followers that day. and there are also travels tales of Jesus through southern Europe. You can find URANTIA BOOK online , is 100% free, a gift to the world. IT does not contradict Jesus teachings in the bible ,it expand them. in reality.
I've always understood what Yeshua meant by saying he is everywhere. We are all part of the energy of the universe and we are also everywhere. But we hold fast to our perception of reality because it is familiar. We are limited by this reality and its petty concerns. He taught that there is more than just this.
That sounds interesting! Could you please explain further what you mean by 'we are part of the energy of the universe' in more tangible terms? I just want to know how to understand this in the context of our everyday reality.
@andrewmarkmusic Yeshua was a Jewish carpenter and rabbi. This "christ" you mention wasn't a name for any particular person, anymore than you calling all your teachers, "Teacher". Look up the word. Get some education. Beware of cults.
@@GeckoHiker Your view is the ANTITHESIS of gnosticism. The foundational tenet of gnostic schools is that Yahweh is the not so nice demiurge (easily proved). Moreover, the GNOSTIC texts clearly state that the Aeon Christ (truth and wisdom) predated and pre-existed Yahweh. IOW’s Yahweh is not the father of Christ So it is YOU that has gnosticism WRONG and any Christian Gnostic worth their salt knows why you are trolling us (Christian Gnostics)...Yahweh is the devil.
Loved this video!!! People like us are out here thirsty for some kind of truth because we can feel in our bones the lies of this world. It is a quest or journey more than a destination. Please keep this stuff coming we love it!
Unfortunately Gnosotic gospels are fake .There is evidence of for example many of this "discoveries" to be fraudulent by people experts in the dating process when it was made. all this alternative version of christianity is all fake.. If you really want to know Jesus true teachings , look no further than Urantia BOOK , life and teachings of Jesus , is the final chapter. And surprinsingly follows the teachings of the bible when it comes to JESUS teachings almost to the letter. The major difference is that there are more stores of Jesus in tha book that in the bible and that it fills the big holes in the bible in many areas. explain things in much more details.. For example there is a chapter in the gospels that speak about a naked man ,during Jesus arrest. that was like out of place in the narrative. when you read the Urantia version of Gospels , it turns to be that naked man was one of Jesus followers that the Roman soldiers tried to arrest , and grab him by the tunic. and in the fighting he managed to escape by detaching from his tunic , that they were holding. So he had to flee the scene naked though the forest to escape . it also explain all Jesus visits and discourses during his resurrection day , there was hundreds of appearances of Jesus to his followers that day. and there are also travels tales of Jesus through southern Europe. You can find URANTIA BOOK online , is 100% free, a gift to the world. IT does not contradict Jesus teachings in the bible ,it expand them. in reality. THe lies in the bible are the Old testament , the first half of the bible are the first books of Judaism religion , that is NOT christianity , a religion that used to believe in many GODS before and the reason why JESUS had the need to promote a new Religion , instead of staying with older prophets scriptures is because of major mistakes of previous prophets in understanding GOD. Part of the reason Jesus came ,was to create a new religion ,that understood correctly the real personality of GOD and a loving compasionanate Father , rather than a vengeful GOD like in the old testament.
This is the polar opposite of the truth. Read the bible for the truth and pray that the holy spirit will reveal the truth to you. These teachings are straight from satan
The early Christian church sought to establish a unified theological doctrine to maintain cohesion and authority. To do this, they needed to define a canon of authoritative texts that reflected their beliefs and teachings. Gnostic Gospels, with their divergent views, were seen as a threat to the doctrinal unity the early church leaders sought to achieve.
Just read the opening in the Book of Thomas, basically saying that many who read these words will not understand them, and then in considering them, will be disturbed, and later true insight will come. I went exactly through those stages, and every time I read them, I get another insight!
Of course they were seen as a threat. They encourage one to set out on their own to find the God within and without. Such teachings would only take away the power that the Roman Catholic church was amassing.
@@Verge63where can I find proof that some of the scrolls tell a different story about jesuses negative harmful sayings, or actions? As opposed to the portrayal of his wise loving spiritual sayings, and acts, of him showing compassionate loving concern, kindness, care, empathy, sympathy, healings, of leadership?
I’m reading the Gnostic Gospels right now and I would highly recommend that people of ALL faiths read them. They are learning of all the Natures of God.
@@IOU1987 That was logical fallacy. He did no such thing. He isn't here to defend his position against theism's misuse. Anyone with a supernatural belief gets to prove it or claim faith is all they have to work with. That's it.
Thanks to provide some clarity and more understanding Gnosticism is general term used to refer to multiple different sects that are similar but Gnostics themselves don’t subscribe to the same beliefs. However a key component about Gnosticism that’s common and not mentioned in this video is that the truth can only be revealed to you if you look within and are guided by Sophia/holy spirit. The same Devine spirit in all of us. This explains why some texts make complete sense to some and no sense to others and this is the hidden knowledge of Gnosis. However always understand Love is the filter, that will remove all that is man and leave what is God in any spiritual teaching. 🙏🏿
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
My understanding is the Gnostics saw the material realm (matter and the world we perceive) as "evil" and to be overcome and transended. As a Buddhist, I see everything as part of whole, and simply different levels of perception. The Gnostics are still an interesting study, and did possess some deep wisdom and understanding.
Thanks for the comment :) some say that gnosticism has its roots in Buddhism and that it refers to the doctrine of reincarnation as the video says in the Coptic Apocalypse of Paul, do you think this is actually true? Would like to hear it from your perspective as a Buddhist.
The Gnostics viewed the essence, the True Self, as a divine spark of creation, as an energetic aspect of pure universal consciousness. Due to the forced reincarnation in a world of suffering (brought on by Demiurgus, a corrupt offspring of Sophia), the Gnostics felt trapped in the illusion of Gaia. They sensed that this world is not "real" or at least less "real" than the higher realms. If you combine a perception of illusion and suffering with forced participation in such a world, you're bound to become mistrustful and frustrated
@@ponglerman Yes, I am familiar with that Gnostic view. My point was, as a Buddhist, I see it as a mistaken perspective. I agree with many other teachings of the Gnostics, but while Maya in Hinduism, and Samara in Buddhism, teach this is the world of illusion, they also teach that the illusion is still part of whole of reality, and that it is not "bad" or "evil" in and of itself. The real illusion, in the Eastern perspective, is our own perceptions of that reality being the ultimate reality when it is in fact only one small, temporary and constantly changing aspect of the whole of reality. It is still real though, and neither good nor bad, not alone evil, as sometimes portrayed in Gnosticism.
@@aubreyekstrom8919 I think their idea of evil is different from how we might consider evil. Their view of evil was anything outside of pure freedom. Any reality that imprisons love (the force of infinity creative capacity, the ability to expand possibility without any restraint) is evil. This is why they considered Yaldabaoth to be evil. They saw it as a parasitic being that cannot create, only capable of imprisonment and subjugation. I believe this to be true. Interestingly though, I consider even the Godhead to be illusory, as it was born out of the cosmic egg of the void (sunyata, ayn/ayn soph/ayn soph aur, source, etc.)
We look back on Gnosticism as a movement to satisfy our need to label them, but, they were individuals and as The Christ came to bring individuals back to The Creator, not groups or congregations. Beyond the next heartbeat is the Spiritual world, but while our hearts beat, we still have to navigate life and love here.
Im 58 now, my bday was yesterday & and jst over 3 months ago.I had never been religious, never owned a bible, didn't have a clue how to pray? Then I was graced by the Holy Spirit after an NDE. I could feel my blood pumping thro every vein around my body like an electric charge & of I went into the vast blackness. I became all knowing I knew everything. I won't go into it, but I was graced seeing Jesus smiling lovingly at me with such compassion, we didn't talk & hes smile was like "I told you I was real" as I stood in awe!Then he graced me with he's essence.I felt everything he felt. It still makes me cry now, Im a mam of 3 with 1 grandchild. The pure compassion, empathy & love he has for us all & how wondrous we are to our Father was outta this world. Since then, Im a full on Christian & I will serve my Lord to my death. I still get messages & dreams that renews my Faith ten fold. He's real & and he's coming soon, so guys repent & seek him before its to late 🕊🕊🕊
@barrylafleur8526 It's not a story it happened & here's a quick flyby....atheist...met Yahshua...euphoric....instant believer God bless you, brother 🙏 ❤️
If you've studied these texts in more depth, you're welcome to share your input/possible interpretations. It takes hours just to begin to grasp this very complex doctrine so I might've missed something here or there. Pretty sure you'll enjoy this one. If you do, please like and subscribe, it kinda helps :) Update: never imagined it would blow up that much! So glad y'all are enjoying it! 🙌😆
@@murielfoucart860 hey Muriel thanks for the comment, I have already included captions in English + 5 more languages for the video. All you need to do is tap the CC button and choose your preferred language!
Its not about studying the texts. The language is clothed and they mean something different to what most people think they do. They are not only revealing about the time particularly the writers, but they also conceal what they need to. In truth they reveal how much people don't listen, while concealing the truth, especially when people jump to conclusions. Sometimes truth hides behind error. Jesus' wife means something completely different than what most people think a wife means. The texts have a purpose, the very least if there is listening then there is learning and that takes time. To take time to listen and learn what is truth and what is error.
After you read Nag Hammadi, go back to gospels, especially Gospel of John. It's basically the gnostic text within the New Testaments, as well as First Epistle of John. I personally believe that this sentence is a path: "If you stay in my teachings you are truly my disciples, you will know the truth and truth will set you free". Now, I don't know anyone who is reading and researching these gnostic gospels but I know myself. I am a sinner and far from perfect but I do live and try to live as much I as I can as Jesus taught. Forgive, help, do good, peace, tolerance and love. I am wondering if anyone else who is researching these writings is living and practicing the same as much as they could in this evil world? If you do those very well might be the teachings that Jesus mentions "if you stay in my teachings, you will know the truth" , and truth very well might be early Christians beliefs and theory. "If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you" Jesus also said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"...
Book of Enoch is esoterical. The books of Enki are superbly interesting human origin story. Uranta is so profound, I have to take breaks but it is the highest explanation of God and the realms. Make more videos.d
Yes I will consider probing these esoteric works sometimes in the future for sure, they sound really interesting. Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video 😇
3:14 The meaning here: not that Jesus is omnipresent, but that the Christ speaking through him, the consciousness, is. All is consciousness, so Christ is all in that sense, because as a consciousness there are no boundaries or separations to the self. I think that means that Christ is a universe-level consciousness
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
Entered this place confused and will exit it in a similar fashion, but it's good to know all of the perceived angles that exist. Everything we experience is up to interpretation, same goes for spiritual belief
Hey brother. There is a way to leave with knowledge and understanding. You must look deep within and study the words of Christ. Good luck on your journey!
I would like to see one where it talks about how ASTROLOGY is the mother of all sciences and how it was prevalent in so many cultures. All major religions have origins in Astrology.
In the greater Dead Sea scrolls there are many references to astrology, some are daily astrology reports by sign . I can’t remember how to search it online, but smarter people can figure it out. I have the book.
The oldest and still the best defined cycle is 20 days, and it does not correlate with planets or stars per say. The 36 decans is the second best and most defined cycle, and planets were assigned to it. The correlation led to a physical way to keep time, but the calendars came first. Astrology has a lot of ambiguity, and often does not work, where the 20 days, combined with the 13 numbers that make the 260 day calendar does. Jung and Freud are born on the same day and number in that system,, and it is simple. Belushi and Farley, both died at the same age, starred in the same show, and had a similar style. they both died specifically from an 8 ball, mixing the heroin and cocaine. They were both born on the same day in the 20 days, but their astrology charts have little in common. learning the 20 days, is the best way for any human to proceed. All cultures had these and ,..the bible also is written using these to a very high degree. Day 12 is the archetype of Jesus. genesis and Exodus (to chap 13) are the best sources and all else copies those. none is history.
THANK YOU, I like the condensed gnostic information - well done !!! As Ex-Rosicrucian and trained medium in contact with spirit world, other dimensions & beings I can only CONFIRM this. Jeshua said: "My people get lost because of LACK OF KNOWLEDGE." WE need to know & then act upon our knowledge, always aiming at SOURCE, the highest LOVE frequency. Blessings, love & light
*To you who read, don't be afraid, God has given you what you need to move forward, look within and you will find the strength and the will you need, don't give up, don't despair, you are a wonderful being with a purpose although I still don't know what that is. You are important ❤💕*
It's a rabbit hole. The more you study it, the deeper it goes, and the more confusing it becomes. Good luck in your endeavors. May you find the truth that would set you free. As Jesus said, the path to the truth is a treacherous and narrow path.
The truth is, that people can get saved without knowing the truth. It's not about knowing the truth. It's about finding the mystery, the secrets. And these are to find even without people even know they found it or not. It's a thing that happens in heart, soul and mind. The pure heart. The lifestyle of the light. It's being a pure soul. No human knows if he/she is or not. Those belong to the light. Even without knowing the truth.
@@Gnosticjesus Yes agreed but those who are saved through shere bliss and innocence are the ones who are easily corrupted or lead astray resulting in fanaticism and extremism. The result of seeking the truth brought us the technology we use today and saved many lives of innocent "witches" from the stakes. Pure hearts and souls requires knowledge of the truth to distinguish right from wrong to keep it remaining "Pure." Finding the mystery is a step taken in result of actively seeking that truth.
It was suggest to me that I stop window shopping spiritual paths. I did. After hunkering down in training for several years in one tradition I now have a greater undetstanding of them all. ❤🙏❤
I actually do believe some of the stuff written in these texts and similar archaic ones was meant by the authors to be taken literally, despite the biased rationalizations of those who believe in them that they intend 'absolute truth' and should be 'interpreted' in a way as to reveal said truths. Such texts reflect the authors' actual scientific and moral limitations back then. But when we look at other parts of these writings, it's more logical to assume that they were written in some sort of coded language. Why? No idea.
Cus most ancient religions are all really just telling us one thing meditate and see the light of the “lord” peace and love will follow everything else is conjecture and frivolous
There is a degree of truth within the Gnostic scriptures. I am a recovered schizophrenic who had a vision of and a confrontation with a serpentine entity with a lion-like face coming out of a portal and entering a cloud that formed in my room back in 1991. After that confrontation, there appeared a beautiful entity with a porcelain like androgenous face and fluttering energetic wings. I had no knowledge of Gnosticism or the notion of Sophia and a Demiurge until 2020. There is definitely something going on beyond the veil, but I'm not quite sure what it is.
🇬🇧 I remember reading a couple of books quite a few years ago with many references to Gnosism But werent per se about it. One book was by a Reverend Bouquet ( written in the 1920s or 30s) & addressed many strange & odd tales, this book was simply titled Comparative Religions Another book that i forget the title of but was written by Mircea Eliade & again i picked up on similarities between both books. Therefor i cant say for definate which story this came from But it depicts the Goddess ( Noria or Norea ?Im not sure) who is envious of the creators manifestation of material things She decides to have a baby from her own creation By this i took it to mean she didnt create a child with male sperm but as the words stated She conceived of herself?? And hid herself away from the creator as she hadnt asked him for permission to self create Anyway she bore a male child who was hideous in appearance but to her he was beautiful & she loved him & therefor wove round him a Glamour or spell so that he appeared beautiful to all who saw him Tall, muscular, blonde & blue eyed & very handsome but it was only his mother ( & the creator ) who saw his real image She called him Samael I cant remember what transpired next but think Noria the Goddess was banished with her son for her transgressions Next thing, Samael is a bit of a rotten egg! His activities match his real hidden face of abomination! He decides to become a god or akin to God, he creates his own adoring minions or human kind but he cannot make them animate, these beings lie flat & crawl about on their bellies floppy & useless. He rushes to his mother bewailing his situation & because she can refuse Samael nothing she agrees to help him However she is very angry with him for creating these Beings against the wishes of the creator God. But since she disobeyed the God when self creating her son she has to help him. She tells him shes angry & is only helping him because she feels pity for the Beings hes created She takes the humans & breathes into them her divine breath. ( its interesting to note that the proper meaning in the Adam & Eve creation story where Eve was created from Adams rib the word Tau was used, but the origional spoken hebrew word Tau meant divine breath, not rib) The Beings became animated from the Goddess's divine breath & stood upright & walked about & talked to each other. I dont remember what transpired after this but think, the Goddess had been tolerated by the creator god & she kept to herself & did her own thing. But Samael made his creations the humans, devote themselves to worshipping him, he loved the adoration & was boastful & vain & cruel too. All of this put me in mind of Yarweh & his attitudes & vanity & cruel acts Im not sure if it was my own thinking or if either of the 2 authors ive mentioned above also put this notion into my mind. Its a pretty " out there" story but its nothing ive made up Ive never forgotten the story as it was so outrageous & although i read about this a few decades ago & dont have either of those books ive quoted, in my library anymore. Im sure they can both be looked up & the story verified somewhere! Id personally love to read them again as there was so much info id never heard about before, like this story. Many years later i read the definitive book on The Gnostics by Elaine Pagles which is a must read for anyone interested. Thank you for your video, i enjoyed it Peace 🇬🇧👧
Wow what a story! Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. It bears such a striking resemblance to the creation myth of Sophia and the Demiurge but with different names. And btw, I too get a rush of excitement whenever I hear the words "comparative religions" haha, big fan of this field of study! I can definitely try to look these two books up. And so glad you enjoyed this video 😇 stay tuned for the next one dropping soon!
@@lore.keeper Re reading what id written i think the 1st book i mentioned " Comparative Religion" could have been written by the Reverend Bosanquet & not Bouquet... its so long ago since i read it but im sure it was published by Penguin Books too. Mircea Eliade writes books on all topics of religious history & ancient texts so any of his books are brilliant to read! I thought his name was female when i first read one of "her" books & thought Mircea Eliade perfect for a female child! I was quite surprised when i discovered the name was male! I cant remember his nationality but his books are very informative & cover topics ive not seen from other such writers! Do hope you find the books & they Are still in print! I recently found a pristine copy Including perfect condition dust jacket, written by the famous British Spiritual Investigator from the 1940s 50s & 60s Harry Price. Its even signed by him & is a first Edition! Its got printed hand mounted photographs of his trances & ectoplasm! I found it in a charity shop or as Americans call them thrift stores My book cost me 40p, less than half of one English pound £. According to google its a very rare book & of a limited print! A tatty old copy without dust jacket sold for £150! Wow imagine what my copy would fetch! But its amazing what can be picked up in junk shops, jumble sales etc! My Comparative Religion book was in a church jumble sale & i bought it for 10p but since it was published in the 1920s it could very well be out of print now! Plus i lent my copy out & never got it back! Grrr. Books are so WONDERFUL 📚 Cheerio for now Peace 🇬🇧👧
More recently Edgar Cayce gave very good descriptions of the creation of Adam and Eve. Proper forms that would help souls trapped in matter to now incarnate into these type of human bodies only...and begin the long journey home.
That is so amazing last night. My friend that I was watching she's my other half like a twin I mean this girl is exactly like me even feeling we feel of each other. And she said yesterday I'm going to see a spark and start a fire and that's what really happened it was a profound experience yesterday that made total sense of the experience. Thank you Most High for this whole awesome experience father Amen
This was a good vid. I subbed. I have heard of sakla before. I wouldn’t be surprised if the church suppressed certain truths to push their agenda. It wouldn’t surprise me at all. Especially when you start looking into the history of the Vatican. These men and women were anything but holy.
I've always believed that organized religion has a lot to do with politics, some suppression of ideas must take place in order for new faiths to arise, perhaps that was the case. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the sub! 🙌
I agree with your comments from my research I found that many books were removed from the Bible and much of the bible was altered and added too, to keep us from the truth. These books are said to be hidden in the depths of the Vatican along with other things.
That Gospel of Thomas quote "for every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven" reminds me of a passage in the Lotus Sutra in which a female child only eight years old and the daughter of a dragon, makes herself a male in order to achieve enlightenment. Apparently it is meant to make the statement that enlightenment is possible, not just for human adult males, but for females, children, and non-human beings to attain.
"The flaw in the subordinate" concept reminds me of the beginning of The Silmarillion, a novel by Tolkien that predates The Lord of the Rings. At the beginning of everything, a choir of celestial beings is singing, but then one begins to sing out of key, and earthly evil then ensues, or something like that.
Wow what an interesting narrative for the beginning of evil haha 😆 And as for the verse from the gospel of Thomas, I actually tried to look for some sort of hidden interpretation behind the apparent misogyny and found something similar to this. It might have been revolutionary for its time to allow females to attain enlightenment, but to us now it's still definitely misogynistic, I don't know. That's the most puzzling thing about this doctrine, tons of metaphors that can have a wide range of different interpretations.
@@lore.keeper Thank you for your reply! The passage certainly does sound misogynous to modern readers. A woman must turn male to be equal to men?! 🙄 Although up until recent times, even in modern western societies, male political and religious authority over women was still predominant, and women's role in society was still seen as mostly restricted to home and family. Therefore many centuries ago, to merely question the social order was seen as very radical, even in early Christian churches in which, alongside the men, many women disciples were evangelizing, teaching, and prophesying, as reflected in the authentic epistles of Paul. In the canonical gospels, Jesus says nothing about challenging patriarchal authority, so his silence implied he consented to it, just as he never questioned slavery. So maybe the Gospel of Thomas was intended by gnostics to at least begin changing that attitude. Apparently since the Roman Church hierarchy deeply feared the effects of women teaching men, they felt a need to forge the "pastoral epistles" and add them to the canon to make it look like Paul had shared their viewpoint and wanted women in churches forbidden from even speaking or asking questions.
I agree that I can't think of an instance where Jesus directly challenged the patriarchal society back then and I too totally abhor many of Paul's teachings regarding the silence of women, the covering of their hair, them being unfit for pastoral roles etc..., but on the other side some people argue that Jesus still showed uncommon treatment towards women that is definitely regarded as favorable. For instance, Mary Magdalene was a major figure in his inner circle at a time where a woman was not supposed to be seen in public company of 13 men, he also forgave and defended the woman accused of prostitution from being stoned to death, and the fact that the very first witnesses of the alleged "resurrection" were women is also an uncommon gesture towards a better depiction of women, being the first witnesses to the most significant event in Christianity, in a society that viewed them as inferior and whose testimony held no weight. Were the gnostic teachings another step further in promoting a better depiction of women? Perhaps. That would be great and quite revolutionary just like you said. But the point is, are we sure that this is the correct interpretation of verse 114? I personally hope it is :D
I often noticed that the concept of 'female' in ancient texts is used to denote that which is creative/created/inspired; whereas, 'male' often denoted that source from which all that is created springs eternally. It is not about gender per se, but a way of expressing fundamental duality within what is WHOLE in ways that are mirrored in the physical world. All women and men are of the same source, sister and brother,...EVERYTHING springs out of and within NOTHING kinda thing...
I believe you're saying that the woman becomes a man literally. But what the gnostics say, as I got from the comments, is that it's all metaphorical. The text doesn't mean a literal change of gender. I don't know for certain what the author meant to be honest but this is at least what the comments here agree on
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The same way the serpen appeared to Eve and told her lies. According to Galatians 1:8.. "Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you". Let's keep our eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.
If you are not Gnostic, then you will not translate correctly. It's just that simple. Some things that are hidden will always remain secret because they must. Unfortunately, those who would style themselves as the corrupt leaders of this world are also spiritually blind, (though they see themselves as being enlightened) and they have taken this verse literally, which explains the present push towards transgenderism and transhumanism among them. They are all in for a rather rude awakening when they wake up for real.
What is St. Irenaeus famous quote? Probably the most famous quote from Irenaeus, and one maybe you've seen floating around social media, is often given as "The glory of God is man fully alive."
I'm deeply amused. Even a broken clock reads correctly twice a day, so it's fitting that this purveyor of mistaken translations was actually right for once.
Very interesting, and enlightening synopsis. Thank you for your efforts, and for sharing the manifestation of them! Heartfelt gratitude. An intrigued new subscriber here! :)
About females becoming male, I've read that quote differently years ago as I was looking for the explanaition as to why some christians say women don't have souls. The way it was written then, was women were not allowed to read, and Jesus asked for women to be able to read so they too could gain access to the knowledge to find the way to the kingdom (or something like that, I'm going by my memory here). So it was about becoming like men, to get access to books.
I always wondered how the "perfect words of a god" can be interpreted so many different and contradictory ways to the point that there are literally thousands of different offshoots to the "original" religion. With all claiming to be the "true translation". If this god cared what we thought, wouldnt it be more efficient to just exist?
Love this comment. In my opinion this is the Achilles heel of the idea of religion as a whole. The existence of thousands of religions, all conflicted, all borrowing from each other, is actually the perfect sign that no god exists.
@@lore.keeperI would argue that it’s the perfect example of how God does exist. The reason most religions share insight, philosophy, stories, events, etc. all encapsulated in different ways is because we as humans all perceive things differently. It doesn’t mean it’s not the same thing. The creator doesn’t care what you call it or how you conceptualize it. It exists far beyond our understanding yet ties all of us together. It is the observer that allows our universe to exist, or perhaps is our universe. It is the consciousness present within every fiber of the atom, every piece of matter in the universe perceivable and more importantly imperceivable. All of the religions are wrong and yet in a way they’re all right. All talking about the same thing that no one can quite get, because how could we. It’s not the point.
The idea is that nothing given all circumstances and environments can be perfect all the time. And so the idea of God really shouldn't be perfection but instead evolving and ever expanding through experiences. And what better way to do so then through our additions our experiences in different creations. Now multiply that by a magnitude of universes... most in which you are aware that you can freely leave. Paul was right in what he claimed.
What is so conflicting about Gnosticism is that on one hand it promotes decentralization of the a larger religious organization, definitely a thing that should come back, but on the other hand is the antisemitic subtext is (as we zoomers say) cringe. A book carrying ideals of the nomads in secular form, but also secularly-strict fascists, those are opposite sides of the political compass (just the bottom and top sides respectively). Also to clarify I don't see the analysis or even promotion of Gnostic text as antisemitism, though it is meant to be taken more spiritually than fiction, it can have the Lovecraft value in the horror genre of literature, you just unfortunately have to glance past those almost obviously racist undertones in certain stories and texts. Because Gnosticism has been proven as great for worldbuilding magic/power systems, Japanese media uses this a lot, and creators behind most of those series have shown they are not antisemitic (because it is an actual concern I can understand), like Tetsuya Takahashi's stories in the Xenogears/saga/blade video game series, Hiromu Arakawa's Fullmetal Alchemist manga series, but TBF in non-Abrahamic media inspired by Abrahamic values there can already be a critical lens inherent. It's like how non-Indians got inspired by Hinduism around the mid-20th century, sometimes the idea of understanding others’ wisdom who never experienced the same echo chamber. After all, nobody could truly know what God is all about nor His mysterious ways, all text is inherently limited and still inked by bias perception of humans, He never possessed humans to write this all down.
90% of the gospel of Thomas is about the fact that Christ is within you. Verse 114 is talking in metaphors, male being the spiritual matter (aka semen) that is the basis of creation and female being the manifested “birthed” reality. Only females can give birth. To make female male isn’t about sexism, it’s saying to return the the corrupted/manifested reality to its true form or source, being the spiritual substance of the creator.
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ. Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
*As the prefix **_"Uni"_** indicates, "one", if there are actually twelve universes instead of only one, then shouldn't it be called the, **_"Dodecaverse",_** instead of, "twelve universes?"* 🤔
"Split a rock, I am there. Crack open a piece of wood, you will find me.' This could be taken to be an allusion the the act that the kingdom Jesus speaks of is not accessed through any fancy buildings full of relics with various officers standing between oneself and the Monad. "The Kingdom of Heaven is inside you and all around you; not in buildings of wood and stone." I've been taught an interpretation of Jesus' statement that he can manifest the masculine in the female so that she might enter the kingdom of Heaven, too, but that explanation as it is from a Gnostic perspective is available online all over the place and I'd probably muck it up trying to explain it. It isn't what most might think, though. Not at all. Oh, right, then there's the Mary and Jesus sitting in a tree bit. The strongest historical evidence to support a potentially consecrated marriage between those two would be Mark 16:9-11 where Jesus reveals himself to her first after the big nasty and then John 20 when she finds the empty tomb. Historically, it would have been the wife's responsibility to attend to her buried husband, as far as I've been able to extrapolate from reading I've done on the subject. And to call something antisemitic ought to be interpreted properly. "Semitic" refers to a linguistic grouping including and Arabic Hebrew, not a race, culture of religions. The world would be a much better place if we were to stop abusing that word.
@@miguelruiz3324 aka UNALIVED!! by way of the old pagan ritual of the wooden cross. early christianity had alot of vibes with eastern views. like more on souls and like no harm to animals that noah says...
When the disciples complained about Mary attending their meeting because she is a woman- Jesus's reply - to them was that unless they too become ' like a woman ' they cannot enter the kingdom. A reference to the chemical wedding - a balance of male/female within that makes us whole.
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I give them that, extremely mystical! I don't know if the authors intended the words to be understood differently by everyone or is there a certain meaning that is yet to surface. I guess that's why their mystery endures till today
The teachings are really neat, but I have issues with the gnostics at the highest level seeing matter and life lived as being based evil to the point that they could not handle a set of certain foods, and they werecommitted to not procreating because Light becoming based in matter to them was life based in needless suffering. Something to think about. If our parents were truly gnostic, we wouldnt have been borne~
@@skelicles You are ignoring the memory erasure of the past lives; our spirits (consciousness) nearly infinite existence, and that it's immortal, indestructible, *plus does not suffer at all, and has great creative abilities, when not in a trap system like this.* Earth is a realm of hell and one of the worst worlds in existence. That's why life here has to eat another life to prolong it's own, why there is so much horror and suffering etc. You are also ignoring, that the demiurge is evil and flawed. What the heck is wrong with you?.
@@skelicles The ancients understanding of evil was different back then from now. They saw matter as evil because matter is coruptable, subject to the laws of change and transformation. This body won't stay like this forever, it will grow old and die, the matter will decay, so will every atom in this existence, hence the refference to the "flawed creation". So when gnostics say that matter is evil they refer to that whitch is subject to change and decay as opossed to the perfect, permanent and unchanging reality of the spirit. That life is suffering is true, but knowledge brings understanding whitch can deliver us from suffering, so life can be redeem, thats salvation. The abstaining from procreation has to do with a special practice that conserves the seed (the sperm) and transmutes it so it gains other functions in the human body. Alot of the knowledge of the gnostics js twisted or misinterpeted.
Verse 77 about the wood and stone, it’s saying that the “son” being all things derived from the father creator have a portion of the creator within them. Thomas places an emphasis on the fact that this truth is hidden in plain sight in many of the the verses. So to say “split a piece of wood and I am there” is saying that within that substance of wood, is hidden a piece of the creator. Hidden under a rock, you see nothing, yet all around you are the works of God. It’s saying that all manifested reality contains a portion of the spiritual substance of the creator, in the myriad forms (called the sons or offspring) of God.
When you say "it appears that the author thought the communion was literal" you forget to mention the catholics say to this day that the communion is the literal body of christ.
Yup I get what you're saying but since not all Christian denominations believe this (most of them don't) I considered it not to be a universally Christian fact when comparing gnosticism to Christianity as a whole. But I get your point 👍
@@lore.keeper According to Pew Research (2013), Catholics are the majority of Christians in the world. I think it is safe to use their doctrine as standard.
Of course it was they actually ate of the body and blood. The practice is apparent when you look at Catholic relics such as fingers of saints preserved in oil filled vials. There was some sort of macabre connection and curiosity that was created to the death and life of those viewed as touched by divinity.
Thank you, glad to hear that! I'll have to look into it and try to understand it well first because as you know, gnostic texts can be a bit difficult to comprehend 😄 and may consider covering it in a future video!
The only question is what is truth? The real truth, about our lost memory of where our spirit comes from and how we can find the way back to our true plane of existence once we take our clothes off (physical body) at the end of the journey.
To me our existence will end peacefully and we won't feel anything once we die, just like we were in the womb, no consciousness, no sense of oneself, non existence. To me that is somehow comforting. What do you think will happen once our physical bodies die?
It's a perspective shift you lose yourself from a complex macro of many what you might consider consciousness into a defined microcosm of one. Imagine if I turned you into an electron what capacity would you have of your perception as a person ? None although in a sense you gain a different perspective over what is now above and beneath you. So basically don't expect to keep who you are as a conscious entity. For a collective to harmonize you simply can't be an individual.
i think its a metaphor when gnostics said material universe is created by yaldabaoth, its meant to say after the creation of matter ego came arise and separate it self from the source by its separate identity which leads to chaos and evil.
@@rexmagi4606 well, the major 3 abrahamic religions are full to the brim with absurd sht, they are all the same, with each one stealing stuff from the previous one(s) and adding its own hocus pocus plot twist
@@jessicahay9305 haha yup I'm aware of the war that took place between the early church and the "heresies". But yeah basically it's humans who ultimately decided what is to be called "canon" and what is not. I don't know on what basis to be honest, haven't dug deep into it. Religion in general I believe is, for a big part, about political affairs and to govern/control the masses, although it sometimes serves some good purpose for some people on a personal level but overall it shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Universes or Planets ? I believe at one time our universe hailed 12 , and today we are still looking for for three of these . each has its pull on our planet, and in mythology deity / angels etc. are connected to these , even in Astrology we are connected .
In tradition a rabbi is married. He was a rabbi, we forget this. There is NO cultural support for him being celibate, that is a separation from reality. "And, historically, many communities traditionally included in their bylaws that they would only accept married candidates as their rabbis" --Since marriage is a central institution of Judaism, it is appropriate that a communal leader lives in accordance with this ideal, and his obligation to marry is thus greater than a layman’s.
Well, historical Jesus is assumed to have been a preacher, not sure if he was a rabbi specifically. There's no cultural support for him being celibate, but on the other hand there's too little historical support for him being married. Plus, the majority of scholarly consensus both Christian and secular maintain Jesus was celibate. This Wikipedia article is great, it delves deeper into the topic en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_bloodline
Jesus' story follows a monomyth pattern. A very common one. He didn't exist any more than King Arthur. It's just written in a genre to keep sheep penned and provide tribal control over people who are more earful than factual.
Welcome to the collective psyche. Mental desire creates a gap filled by knowledge. Seek and knock and all that sort of stuff. God not required but serves as a mental placeholder for those who need it.
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"The soul is our mother, and she gives birth to us." --Gospel of Philip "They alienate with simulations and appearances; they make a free person into a slave." --Gospel of Philip
Could you please interpret the second verse? I'm having a hard time grasping what it's specifically referring to. Who are 'they' and who do they alienate?
Many folks seeking truth *fail to find* 'cos they're easily led astray by worldly logic, high sensuality, vain imagination or specious mysticisms. I know I was. I'm an ex neo-vedantic (hindu roots) new ager. I used to be into so much "spiritual" stuff: trance channelings, ancient wisdom, *gnosticism,* hindu gurus and buddhist mystics. I was illuminated by the *kundalini (serpent) spirit* then 7 years ago I got properly enlightened by the *Holy Spirit* which showed me what a fool I was before. Spirit led me to the real *Jesus Christ* and everything changed - paradigm shifted. This is being *BORN AGAIN* and it's an ongoing surprise to me 😁 It escapes the notice of our self-absorbed, glamour-saturated world that we're in a spiritual war for souls. The immensity of ignorance is astonishing: the dark powers bedazzling the minds of the masses (Ephesians 6:12). We've inherited ancient spiritual subversion: the earth is fallen. The holistic fields of nature are fallen state. Life kills and feeds upon itself. Mankind is a spiritually fallen race highly prone to deceit and delusion. Frankly, we need a *Saviour* and by Jesus Christ we have a *Glorious One* As a new ager I couldn't believe it but in the *Light of Spirit* Jesus really is the *Way, the truth and the Life* just like He said: no one comes to God except through Jesus, there's no other way (Matthew 7:13-14). As a neo-vedantist I wasn't convinced (I was damn sure I knew better) but turns out the Bible is Spirit breathed, written by men inspired by the *Holy Spirit.* Jesus is vividly portrayed and endorsed in the new testament, in fact he's apparent in the old testament too (Luke 24:27 & 44) and by the *Light of Spirit* we're allowed to *see* that and *know Him.* Any previously perceived discrepancies or contradictions are ironed out and the supernatural narrative flows most beautifully. The Bible is the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Thanks Darren for taking the time to share your personal experience! While I won't argue with any supernatural claims, the only part I can strongly disagree with here is the persistent view that humans are inherently corrupt and always dependent on an external force, without which they are doomed to fail or 'stay lost'. This to me is quite unfair and counterproductive and in the long term, even *lethal* . I believe we as a species are intelligent enough and capable of awesome things, both moral and scientific. We *DO have our problems* , but we are slowly evolving to better solve them, especially when it comes to morals. I personally think we don't need any outside force to make us good and 'uncorrupt'. Instead of seeing ourselves as weak and fallen, if we believe that we have it in us, and that we are the only ones who can collectively shape our future in a positive way, then we can achieve amazing things. Again, to each their own, just sharing with you my own belief regarding this specific part of your comment, otherwise glad to see your belief is bringing you a sense of fulfillment on a personal level. Thanks again and hope you enjoyed the video 🙌😇
Rubbish...He is not apparent in the O.T. which has absolutely nothing to do with the Aeon Christ. In fact, your Christ lied to the patriarchs via the sin of omission by not directly telling them he was the 2nd aspect of a Trinity. Something they could have easily understood as the trinity idea was ubiquitous in Egypt...Not to mention that David was Tuthmosis the 111 and Solomon was Amenhotep. Read Mustafa Gadalla on that point and google a picture of the Egyptian temple as the so called Hebrew temple is an exact replica. Enough of the spiritual BS as true GNOSIS is the fact that the O.T. and N.T. are incompatible! Even Marcion understood this...
You do not understand what the New Age is and truly means. It is NOT the hodge-podge of what you described. The imminent New Age/Era is that which Christ will usher in at His promised Second Coming. It will be a time of elucidation that goes far beyond what the New Testament offers/ed. Also, the NT has been misinterpreted, misunderstood , misused and parts of it deleted. I have 'been there, done that ' where you are now. At the age of 12 through to my late 20s I was a member of a church, when and where I repented , was baptised and (supposedly) received the Holy Spirit. (not so!). I left that religion and its rigid, unenlightened mode of thinking and emotional centeredness as I was frustrated with the lack of wisdom there. In my search for better explanation, meaning and understanding of spirituality, I discovered the Ageless Wisdom Teachings which are a precurser to the new and ageless teachings that Christ will bring in with His Second Coming. The Laws and Principles of the New Age will be concerned with the individual and group development of the Soul (which/Who is/of and/ on, the higher, abstract mental plane). These Laws and Principles to live by, very briefly are : Right Human Relations, Goodwill, Group Endeavour, Unanimity, Spiritual Approach and Essential Divinity. The Holy Spirit is grossly misunderstood. It is the third energy which/Who is Active Creative Intelligence and Adaptability. Its purpose is Divine mental perceptions through which Divinity manifests. Its qualities are : the power to manifest, mental illumination, the power to produce synthesis on the physical plane, scientific investigation, balance. "His work is more closely linked to matter and He works in cooperation with the Lord of the second ray*. He is the motivating impulse in the initial work of creation ... through the medium of matter he provides humanity with a vast field of experiment and experience." Source - 'Esoteric Psychology,' p. 23, from the over 20 books by Alice Bailey, the amanuensis for the Ascended Spiritual Master, Djwhal Khul. *The second ray/radiation of energy is Love-Wisdom, which this ray, Christ and Buddha head. Christ with the Love aspect and Buddha with the Wisdom aspect. For an extraordinary, deeper and insightful explanation and understanding of the life of Jesus Christ, read, 'From Bethlehem To Calvary'-The Initiations of Jesus, by Alice Bailey. Also, as an introduction to the Ageless Wisdom Teachings, read, 'Ponder On This, a compilation of/on various topics from the Bailey books on spiritual and other topics. Check out more on The Lucis Trust channel on You Tube. PS. I too, have had the kundalini experience when I was in my early 20s. I was expressing loving forgiveness to someone who has wronged me when a fiery, cleansing, electric current ran up my spine, through my chakras and wonderfully exploded in and around my head at the crown chakra. I was on a spiritual 'high' for days. This was even well before I knew what it was! It was a ' baptism of fire' experience. Goodwill Blessings.
I don’t think the separations that you and others throughout time have put on the different mystical aspects of religions really exist It’s all the same
After reading Carl Jungs work, A lot of the gnostic texts seem to be active imaginations. And the meanings require a cypher that only one's own connection to the depths provides.
Anything can be Pygmalion people can convince themselves of just about anything and self validate. The real questions are what things exist constantly regardless of ourselves. Why do things balance within our universe does that in itself prove the need for conservative rules ? If this universe that you inhabit had a creator capable of true creation would it need to be conservative ?
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This is the Roman Catholic approved translation and presentation of the Nag Hammadi codices (the "gnostic gospels" are found in this collection of writings but do not compose even 1/3 of it). These writings taken all together represent a scholars study library and personal works of interpretation and decryption. Many of the the 'gospels' have notes written in the liner and are heavily damadged. If you want a full translation and a breakdown on the disinformation campaign surrounding the Gnostic Gopels (and its a seriously hectic and mind blowing report) read 'Not in His Image' by John Lamb Lash.... The Sophianic Myth is a story to correct the species, and this video unknowingly echos the anti-life deception of the true Mysteries of the Telestic Gnostics... happy to answer questions or disagreements.
@@Ron_DeForest I only call the shit i have experienced or have sufficient knowledge of "bull shit", and only a portion of what i experience qualifies it as such. There is a metric fuck ton of bs on the topic of the soul, the topic of god, and the topic of everything...I think that speaks to pelethora of mistakes it takes to glean the truth from the accidental b.s. and the intentional b.s. the nag hamadi contains some of the craziest shit ive experienced, but there are few who would risk their academic careers in doing so. its some of the best shit ive come across in a world littered with bs. John lamb lash not in his image is a book/youtube topic that tackles that well imho.
What I dont understand about texts and teachings such as gnosticism or other spiritual knowledge is why was it written and taught in such a closed-off, hidden, codefied, cryptic and secretive way? Like is their some inherent harm or risk in knowing this stuff objectively? If a person understood "too much" then would it be dangerous in some way? How come most other forms of knowledge arent closed-off in secret in the same way spirual teachings are?
Yes I ask myself the same question. You'd think that the easier people understood the doctrine the better. Why would they want only a select few to understand it? It's a strange logic indeed
@freethinker79 I'm aware everything "speaks" in symbols and concepts but what bothers me is the vagueness and nuance of the interpretation of these symbolic concepts within mysticism, spiritualism, esotericism when compared to other forms of knowledge.
@@mrwillard95 "Heed these words, you who wish to probe the depths of Nature: If you do not find within your Self that which you seek, neither will you find it outside. If you ignore the wonders of your own House, how do you expect to find other wonders? In you is hidden the Treasure of Treasures. Know Thyself and you will know the Universe and the Gods." --Oracle of Delphi
@@freethinker79 Did an AI write this? Because I dont see how this vague comment is relevant to my original post, or maybe I'm just to ingornat to understand the wisdom here. Also can you describe what constitutes as the "treasures of treasures" and how "knowing oneself" leads to it?
I really did enjoy your video as I was very interested in NHT's purchasing both versions - one called the NH library the other same if I remeber but the reader has to peice together missing parts using scholars interpretations listed at bottom of page, on their thoughts regarding the possible meanings of missing texts peices. Blessings of Love Light from Australia
Yes it was really fun to research this topic too and try to think up possible interpretations! To be honest a few made sense to me personally but other interpretations had some credit. It's a fascinating doctrine to study, very complex and can be understood in many ways. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! 🙌🏻 Blessings and peace to Australia 🙏🏻
Please tell me I'm not the only one who got IMMEDIATELY distracted by the Skyrim screenshot at 10:55! XD Great video, but that took me right out of it (though if intentional, that is hilarious and amazing!)
I’m a therapist and spiritual director that uses Gnostic ideas in my therapy. What I get out of “making Mary male” is the breaking of gender stereotypes as women find their masculine side. In the message is also a conviction for men to find their feminine side. Humans are more spiritually and psychologically sound when they find the balance between HARD and SOFT. As for the Demi-urge: I see this metaphorically as an intellectual deficient way of seeing the Creator as was described in the Old Testament. And with Sophia behind the creation, it seems as if there’s a practical lesson in understanding the fine line between intuition and distortion. In the end, the message is for each of us in our lives to know ourselves..and Love ourselves. We are balanced, happier, and able to live healthier lives when we do so. And if the world as a whole can do this, it would be an entirely different world indeed. That’s what I, personally, take from it.
This is a great take on the text but I ask myself, is that what the writers actually meant? With intensely esoteric texts like Gnosticism, basically a multitude of meanings could be possible. Everyone interprets them in their own way, but the mystery still remains, what did the writer actually mean!
The "flaw" in matter is personal, not impersonal or cosmic. Each of us creates our own experience of reality. Please note I didn't say each of us creates our own reality, I said each of us creates our own experience of reality. The difference is crucial to understand because each of us has elements in our experience of reality that we don’t want, and those things are there because of a fatal flaw in our human psychological make-up. That flaw primarily takes two forms: 1. The belief that there’s no divinity and we’re alone in this world. 2. The belief that there is a divinity, but we’re disconnected from it. We each have a responsibility to ourselves and to the entire human race to become fully conscious of divinity and our oneness with it. We must remove the flaw, individually and collectively.
Am beginning to believe that to those who find the path to these writings, who read from them and absorb them into their own consciousness , are willed or meant to take their own interpretation from them. When first reading Secret book of John, I thought the writer had been partaking massive psychedelics. My mind tried to explain them away. Thibk the purpose is to not let the ego do that. Each time reading or listening to I take a new meaning away. 🕉️
take this verse from the Gnostic gospels. The Gospel of Thomas is a manuscript containing a collection of sayings of Jesus that was discovered among a hoard of ancient manuscripts at Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945114 Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life." Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males. For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven." However, if it is understood as a metaphor drawn from the culture of the day, it fits well with the Gnostic world view.
@@michaelbartlett6864 whoa space travel?! Um not aware of that, I haven't delved too deep into the book of Enoch to be honest, can you please tell me a verse that you think refers to space travel so that we can evaluate it?
Power and wisdom can not be if it's not through the struggle of knowing what power is and what wisdom is. This Aeon is the ground in which power and wisdom are developed. With time being relevant and also not relevant.
Jesus fought with the Scribes and Pharisees, and called them white-washed walls, filled with dead men's bones, despite telling his disciples to love their enemies, as he obviously learnt to do, by his trial. And, if the Gospels didn't record this, then we would hardly believe that Jesus could utter such shocking phrases, considering how loving he was. Likewise, Jesus could have fought with Mary, and said such shocking things about her, because he obviously had a short fuse, early in his ministry. And, since Mary sabotaged his perfect dreams, by making him turn water into wine, in defiance of God's will, to cause John the Baptist to lose faith in him, why wouldn't Jesus try to excuse his mother, by blaming her shocking mistake on being a weak-minded woman, to justify defying his own moral code? Eventually, Jesus forgave everyone who sabotaged his perfect dreams. So, why would people promote these derogatory statements, instead of realizing that Jesus learned obedience, by the things which he suffered, like Hebrew 5:8 makes obvious?
so satisfying and resonating understanding - is your comment at about 3:01 a light hearted appraisal? the cannon as it is ... could be ...more.. (as it is has been the impetus for my search outside it) a deep heartfelt thank you for your skill and understanding putting this video out here. more anytime - Thank you
Of course I didn't mean to say that the "current Christian canon" is more "right" or anything, thank you for understanding. And I'm so happy you found the video entertaining! Blessings 🙌🏻
Great, thank you for responding - it is the current cannon i dont completely trust. I look forward to your take on other gnostic text in future. Top of the day!@@lore.keeper
@@nunyabinnus yes I agree that the current cannon should be distrusted seeing that the 4 synoptic gospels too were written by anonymous authors. I will also be doing a part 2 of this video later down the road. Thanks again for tuning in!
The 1st century Christian monk Marcion of Sinope made the observation that the character of the god of the Old Testament was very different from that of Jesus. His conclusion was that the god of the OT was not the same true God who was the Father of Jesus. The OT god purportedly proclaimed that gay people and adulterers should be stoned to death, where as Jesus taught "let ye who is without sin cast the first stone." Once I heard the notion that a lesser "demiurge" created the material universe, that always made sense to me. It makes more sense than to believe that God decreed "thou shalt not kill", but whispered "except for THESE people". Nobody knows for sure, but this is a truly interesting idea/concept, that the world was a mistake. It seems so, if you look at it in totality, and the forces that influence it most heavily.
I totally agree with you that the god of the old testament is DEFINITELY not the same as Jesus of the new testament, no matter how much biased believers try to reconcile the two by jumping through impossible logic hoops. They are just irreconcilable. Anyone who's objective enough can easily see this. Perhaps the whole demiurge thing was the gnostics trying to come up with a more logical(?) solution. Being atheist, I don't believe in both, but it seems to me the gnostics spotted these irreconcilable deities early on.
@@RealRawRecoveryRedemption In 1 Samuel 15 it said that God called for the murder of women, children, and animals. Any human being that did that would be labelled a psychopath. If anybody hears a voice telling them to kill women, children, and animals, it's probably not the voice of God, bro. You want to endorse that, b/c God is "just"? I don't believe Jesus was a hypocrite. Philip asked Jesus what God was like, and Jesus replied "If you've seen ME, you've seen the Father." If selective murder was what God is truly like, then Jesus would have preached the same. Jesus said the two most important commandments were to love God, and love thy neighbor as thyself. He said to love your enemies. You cannot love someone and then murder them. Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the very beginning. That's the voice that anybody is hearing when telling them to commit murder, not the voice of God/Christ/Holy Spirit. No two people are going to have the same beliefs about everything related to God and the Bible, even Christians. I think we will agree to disagree, I wish you peace and a Merry Christmas.
Thank you so much for this video. This opens my eyes somewhat Because I am a Born again Christian and an ex leader of the Freemasons. In dreams I was told that I was a bridge between these two organizations because they both feared and hated each other and myself because of who I served and believed in. Early in my life I knew without of a shadow of doubt that I would seek out and find God within my lifetime, that is why I go by the name "RMooreofGod".
Did you mean your dream said you’re a bridge between Freemasonry and Christianity? Have you found that to be an accurate description of a pattern in your life?
Do you mean that *all* the Bible is symbolic? Because there are definitely portions that claim to describe actual history even if part of these stories may be historically inaccurate or didn't happen, but I personally don't think it should all be treated as symbolism 🤔
@lore.keeper Maybe not all of it. I'm sure there's alot of mysticism, myth, allegory, parables and even some based on real events. Take into consideration translation and the way people spoke in those times. Then also take in consideration each author is filtering through thier own perceptions and experiences.
Well that's an interesting proposition, perhaps this is the case, given the old misconceptions about abortion. I for one understood it in the sense that they literally kill their children after giving birth to them. Yet it could also be something else altogether, like a symbolism that's not meant to be taken literally. That's the confusing thing about gnostic texts, multiple possible interpretations but we don't know which one is supposed to be intended.
I came to that conclusion at first, but the preceeding sentence regarding sleeping around in my name, {paraphrased}, kind of threw that off as concerning this day and age.
Murdering children is referring to the common practice of infanticide. Today it’s still practiced if you birth a girl and wanted a boy in say India, where girls are despised until they can be a workhorse, but boys bring ‘honor’. Might make that ‘I can become a man and therefore holy’ passage a lot clearer. You pro-birth freaks are nutty. You worry so much about a fetus but do so little to care for living children.
@@lore.keeperplease decipher : for millennia they have seen the light of all humanity so they ask why don't these have a light , but now they know the light of the Elect is hidden by their image and the Elect now walk among them . they understand the Elect weren't locked in this realm with them - they are locked in this realm with the Elect , they only have one place to flee as they can't stay here because this real is about to roll up like a scroll in the fire . make your way you need not fear the sabbath he has nowhere to go and is trapped but he too shall join the All but has no claim to you for you join the All before him . the Scorned shall become the Honoured and the Blind God Whom the Saviour calls the Kind God and Whom He loves as Himself will walk as The Great King amongst Kings so go in Peace rest in Peace and be in Peace with Him for is your Creator enjoy a thousand years of Peace with Him
@lore.keeper, thank you so much, and thank you for your timely response! I had originally typed a question about why you used the image of Abraxas a few times, when in my knowledge it was simply an initiating symbol for a Roman cult, not necessarily associated with the Christian Gnostics, but I watched a few more videos and I'm starting to realize the significance (I think, lol).
@@PoFFizdaMan you're most welcome! Yes I've seen references to the abraxas in almost every article related to gnosticism on Wikipedia, there's definitely some connection there 😆
Verse 114 in the Gospel of Thomas is not referring to the physical female form but the union of opposites. Yeshua means that Mary is missing the Sacred Male aspect of her Self, one of courage and wisdom. She has the divine care and intuition of the Sacred Mother, however she exists out of balance with the phallic archetype
women and men have had negative church attitudes against them. I just read the literature and it's better to follow Jesus not just other people who preach. We have false prophets
Actually they were the opposite of horrendous results. Suppressing the female chaotic force is basically step 1 for a chance of any sort of advanced civilization to develop. you know it's not really a coincidence that our own (western) civilization is on a decline since liberal movements of 20th century - it happened to the Romans as well.
where izlam borrows some stuff from too. i guess... same treatment to women. 😦😁 cant believe jesus agreed with petey tho. smh... males only in heaven?? lol ill gladly pass then.
12 main cranial nerves 12 tribes 12 disciples Christ was crucified at 33 There are 33 vertebrae in your spinal column 33 degrees to free masonry 33 main Hindu gods Christ was crucified between two thieves The right and left brain hemispheres Christ was crucified in Golgotha Golgotha literally translates as skull When you are ready it will unfold for you
😂😂😂...this is funny as hell. Once again, Italy Rome put their European KJV Bible together from other Sumarian texts & cave drawings for specific reason. Color... it's to divide, conquer, & control. Continue doing your research & observation. Peace ❤
Yup, and this is exactly what all other religions do throughout history, not just Christianity to be fair 😆 they all borrow from other ancient texts that came before them, and then add their distinguishing element to suit their own political and cultural context. Religion evolves from previous forms like any other thing on earth. It's a fascinating look into how creative our species is. Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video 💙🙌
imagine if there had been copyright laws and lawyers back then. Humanity would have had better things to think about rather than plagiarised, doctored and corrupt "holy" texts and might have progressed further.
As I understand the KJV of the bible was edited by a Freemason under supervision of the Masonic order. Does that make Freemasonry a malevolent organization in your estimation? I only ask out of curiosity, I have no particular opinion one way or the other... yet. I'm just trying to piece together this extremely complex puzzle of different secret societies, their purposes, influences on society and whether they are acting out of good or ill will.
@@wesleypipes5673Octagon controls all, they are all organizations. They are all the ISMs. In the name of the last human city in the Matrix, you will find your answer.
@@lore.keeper if Jesus (god) is everywhere, in a piece of wood, under a stone, there is no need to pray or worship in a certain place. This sentiment is also backed by the idea of praying in a closet, in private. (Matthew 6:6-7)
@@lore.keeper I would also go further and say, if all things are imbued with God, that makes the Eucharist redundant. All food we put on our mouths has been consecrated, so there's no need for a middle man. I believe that's the real reason these texts were excluded / repressed.
@@darkhorsiesmedia well, that's definitely another way to look at it! But I guess that to Christians, the eucharist is more of a remembrance of Jesus' crucifixion than anything else although it may have further theological implications too
Sophia is the first daughter of God's creations. She desired to impress her Father/Mother, secretly hidden in a dark cloud in heaven. Where she failed ,is she was not willing to give from herself, the true compassion of creation which her Father/Mother gives all life. Her creation was deficient of compassion, which in turn became the evil we experience upon this earth. The evil ones who claim to be the gods of man. Sophia felt remorse and regret and guilt for those are the natural components' of God's creations. So in repentance, Sophia manifested into 4 earths. which we are on the second earth at this moment. Each earth higher then the other, a stairway to heaven. This earth is not evil, humanity is. Chosen with their own free will, believing liars who claim authority and to be the god's of man, till this day.
But why, why didn't God just have males like Simon and Peter and all the males all over the universe wanted, a world without females? Seems like God wasted his time creating us, now I see where men got their hatred for us after so many years.
@@annt.7785 There are good women and good men. Also there is bad Men and bad women, it is a choice of free will. Not a waste of time for when the Male and female come together in harmony they become something wonderful. beyond this kind of world. Where mankind chose to be evil.
@@annt.7785 This world is ruled by evil intentions. For mankind is too cowardly to serve true justice and prevent evil from ruling this earth. It is an occult which rules this earth, this is the age of occults. Only because no one has the compassion or courage to serve true justice, at this time. soon.
Specifically, thought, multiverse?, many more … dragon ball z. I had to correct the grammatical errors. You’re probably a child or a foreigner just helping out.
christians dont exist in the world of dbz tho and they have angels and gods and demi gods and one supreme god who is a child... also demons too. which are drawn in traditional japanese oni style u see in paintings. its prob inspired from asian or hindu spiritual stuff which is in dbz lore. like reincarnation. also there were i think 18 originally before zeno erased em. lol love dragonball.
Anytime the Gospel of Thomas talks about seeds and gardens, it’s talking about the seed (being the hidden portion of God within you) is sewn in the garden (the garden being the mind).
How do you know ?
AND when the two, become ONE❤, that is, in-DEED, YAHsome! 🔥♥️🌞
Yea he's definitely not. He's talking about moments and memories. You'll understand when your code comes back to you in the end. Through jesus karma is cut in half and paid for by him. This is the reason you are meant to be thankful.
Hypothetically.
@@GrantCondermoments and memories… happen in the garden buddy. Either way neither of you know nor do I. We didn’t write the text or interview the writer.
You are of your FATHER the devil u liar
Who loves learning these things, passing time, learning more, hearing them again then the story makes so much more sense ❤
It always made sense. We have just learned to hear, perhaps hear with a heart...
Unfortunately Gnosotic gospels are fake . all this alternative version of christianity is all fake.. If you really want to know Jesus teachings , look no further than Urantia BOOK , life and teachings of Jesus , is the final chapter. And surprinsingly follows the teachings of the bible when it comes to JESUS teachings almost to the letter. The difference is that there are more stores of Jesus in tha book that in the bible and that it fills the holes in the bible in many areas. explain things in much more details.. For example there is a chapter in the gospels that speak about a naked man ,during Jesus arrest. that was like out of place in the narrative. when you read the Urantia version of Gospels , it turns to be that naked man was one of Jesus followers that the Roman soldiers tried to arrest , and grab him by the tunic. and in the fighting he managed to escape by detaching from his tunic , that they were holding. it also explain all Jesus visits and discourses during his resurrection day , there was hundreds of appearances of Jesus to his followers that day. and there are also travels tales of Jesus through southern Europe. You can find URANTIA BOOK online , is 100% free, a gift to the world. IT does not contradict Jesus teachings in the bible ,it expand them. in reality.
Always!! ❤
It definitely answers at least one major question that cannot be explained by other religions or versions of Christianity.
@26MECH
I've always understood what Yeshua meant by saying he is everywhere. We are all part of the energy of the universe and we are also everywhere. But we hold fast to our perception of reality because it is familiar. We are limited by this reality and its petty concerns. He taught that there is more than just this.
That sounds interesting! Could you please explain further what you mean by 'we are part of the energy of the universe' in more tangible terms? I just want to know how to understand this in the context of our everyday reality.
Christ wasn’t a Jewish carpenter as that is a fiction of the archons created to protect the demiurge (yahweh)...
@andrewmarkmusic Yeshua was a Jewish carpenter and rabbi. This "christ" you mention wasn't a name for any particular person, anymore than you calling all your teachers, "Teacher". Look up the word. Get some education. Beware of cults.
We're all lil candle lights of the sun
@@GeckoHiker Your view is the ANTITHESIS of gnosticism. The foundational tenet of gnostic schools is that Yahweh is the not so nice demiurge (easily proved). Moreover, the GNOSTIC texts clearly state that the Aeon Christ (truth and wisdom) predated and pre-existed Yahweh. IOW’s Yahweh is not the father of Christ
So it is YOU that has gnosticism WRONG and any Christian Gnostic worth their salt knows why you are trolling us (Christian Gnostics)...Yahweh is the devil.
Loved this video!!! People like us are out here thirsty for some kind of truth because we can feel in our bones the lies of this world. It is a quest or journey more than a destination. Please keep this stuff coming we love it!
So glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you and of course I will keep uploading great content for you guys to enjoy, stay tuned 😃
Agreed, 100%
Unfortunately Gnosotic gospels are fake .There is evidence of for example many of this "discoveries" to be fraudulent by people experts in the dating process when it was made. all this alternative version of christianity is all fake.. If you really want to know Jesus true teachings , look no further than Urantia BOOK , life and teachings of Jesus , is the final chapter. And surprinsingly follows the teachings of the bible when it comes to JESUS teachings almost to the letter. The major difference is that there are more stores of Jesus in tha book that in the bible and that it fills the big holes in the bible in many areas. explain things in much more details.. For example there is a chapter in the gospels that speak about a naked man ,during Jesus arrest. that was like out of place in the narrative. when you read the Urantia version of Gospels , it turns to be that naked man was one of Jesus followers that the Roman soldiers tried to arrest , and grab him by the tunic. and in the fighting he managed to escape by detaching from his tunic , that they were holding. So he had to flee the scene naked though the forest to escape . it also explain all Jesus visits and discourses during his resurrection day , there was hundreds of appearances of Jesus to his followers that day. and there are also travels tales of Jesus through southern Europe. You can find URANTIA BOOK online , is 100% free, a gift to the world. IT does not contradict Jesus teachings in the bible ,it expand them. in reality. THe lies in the bible are the Old testament , the first half of the bible are the first books of Judaism religion , that is NOT christianity , a religion that used to believe in many GODS before and the reason why JESUS had the need to promote a new Religion , instead of staying with older prophets scriptures is because of major mistakes of previous prophets in understanding GOD. Part of the reason Jesus came ,was to create a new religion ,that understood correctly the real personality of GOD and a loving compasionanate Father , rather than a vengeful GOD like in the old testament.
@@annetteturley4252😊😊
This is the polar opposite of the truth. Read the bible for the truth and pray that the holy spirit will reveal the truth to you. These teachings are straight from satan
The early Christian church sought to establish a unified theological doctrine to maintain cohesion and authority. To do this, they needed to define a canon of authoritative texts that reflected their beliefs and teachings. Gnostic Gospels, with their divergent views, were seen as a threat to the doctrinal unity the early church leaders sought to achieve.
Exactly, that's perhaps why they faced such fierce resistance and sometimes oppression from the mainstream branch of the faith
Just read the opening in the Book of Thomas, basically saying that many who read these words will not understand them, and then in considering them, will be disturbed, and later true insight will come. I went exactly through those stages, and every time I read them, I get another insight!
Of course they were seen as a threat. They encourage one to set out on their own to find the God within and without. Such teachings would only take away the power that the Roman Catholic church was amassing.
Some of those gnostic were showing bad sides of Jesus.
@@Verge63where can I find proof that some of the scrolls tell a different story about jesuses negative harmful sayings, or actions? As opposed to the portrayal of his wise loving spiritual sayings, and acts, of him showing compassionate loving concern, kindness, care, empathy, sympathy, healings, of leadership?
“Don't ever take a fence down until you know the reason it was put up.”
Chestertons fence……..
Always leave a farmers fence as you find it.
Fear builds fences
We know the reason.
Wise saying!
I’m reading the Gnostic Gospels right now and I would highly recommend that people of ALL faiths read them. They are learning of all the Natures of God.
What's the best way to read them? Is there a single book that compiles all of it together?
@@Wealthwardidk if its all of them but theres a gnostic bible
Baruch Spinoza - Nature God.. Some say he was rationalising the Creator out of existence, actually he allegorically unveiled Creator.
@@IOU1987 That was logical fallacy. He did no such thing. He isn't here to defend his position against theism's misuse. Anyone with a supernatural belief gets to prove it or claim faith is all they have to work with. That's it.
@@Wealthward It's called the Nag Hammadi Library." It's all in one book.
Thanks to provide some clarity and more understanding Gnosticism is general term used to refer to multiple different sects that are similar but Gnostics themselves don’t subscribe to the same beliefs. However a key component about Gnosticism that’s common and not mentioned in this video is that the truth can only be revealed to you if you look within and are guided by Sophia/holy spirit. The same Devine spirit in all of us. This explains why some texts make complete sense to some and no sense to others and this is the hidden knowledge of Gnosis. However always understand Love is the filter, that will remove all that is man and leave what is God in any spiritual teaching. 🙏🏿
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV
Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
Have you ever done an autopsy? No "divine spirit" in us, and thank satan for that!
Nonsense.@@specilegg
@@siriusfun we shouldn't turn from the gospel given to us by the apostles
My understanding is the Gnostics saw the material realm (matter and the world we perceive) as "evil" and to be overcome and transended. As a Buddhist, I see everything as part of whole, and simply different levels of perception. The Gnostics are still an interesting study, and did possess some deep wisdom and understanding.
We are souls warping through emotions, everybody and everything has its own perception.
Thanks for the comment :) some say that gnosticism has its roots in Buddhism and that it refers to the doctrine of reincarnation as the video says in the Coptic Apocalypse of Paul, do you think this is actually true? Would like to hear it from your perspective as a Buddhist.
The Gnostics viewed the essence, the True Self, as a divine spark of creation, as an energetic aspect of pure universal consciousness. Due to the forced reincarnation in a world of suffering (brought on by Demiurgus, a corrupt offspring of Sophia), the Gnostics felt trapped in the illusion of Gaia. They sensed that this world is not "real" or at least less "real" than the higher realms. If you combine a perception of illusion and suffering with forced participation in such a world, you're bound to become mistrustful and frustrated
@@ponglerman Yes, I am familiar with that Gnostic view. My point was, as a Buddhist, I see it as a mistaken perspective. I agree with many other teachings of the Gnostics, but while Maya in Hinduism, and Samara in Buddhism, teach this is the world of illusion, they also teach that the illusion is still part of whole of reality, and that it is not "bad" or "evil" in and of itself. The real illusion, in the Eastern perspective, is our own perceptions of that reality being the ultimate reality when it is in fact only one small, temporary and constantly changing aspect of the whole of reality. It is still real though, and neither good nor bad, not alone evil, as sometimes portrayed in Gnosticism.
@@aubreyekstrom8919 I think their idea of evil is different from how we might consider evil. Their view of evil was anything outside of pure freedom. Any reality that imprisons love (the force of infinity creative capacity, the ability to expand possibility without any restraint) is evil. This is why they considered Yaldabaoth to be evil. They saw it as a parasitic being that cannot create, only capable of imprisonment and subjugation. I believe this to be true. Interestingly though, I consider even the Godhead to be illusory, as it was born out of the cosmic egg of the void (sunyata, ayn/ayn soph/ayn soph aur, source, etc.)
We look back on Gnosticism as a movement to satisfy our need to label them, but, they were individuals and as The Christ came to bring individuals back to The Creator, not groups or congregations. Beyond the next heartbeat is the Spiritual world, but while our hearts beat, we still have to navigate life and love here.
Thanks for taking the time to comment your opinion 🙌😇
Im 58 now, my bday was yesterday & and jst over 3 months ago.I had never been religious, never owned a bible, didn't have a clue how to pray?
Then I was graced by the Holy Spirit after an NDE. I could feel my blood pumping thro every vein around my body like an electric charge & of I went into the vast blackness. I became all knowing I knew everything. I won't go into it, but I was graced seeing Jesus smiling lovingly at me with such compassion, we didn't talk & hes smile was like "I told you I was real" as I stood in awe!Then he graced me with he's essence.I felt everything he felt. It still makes me cry now, Im a mam of 3 with 1 grandchild. The pure compassion, empathy & love he has for us all & how wondrous we are to our Father was outta this world. Since then, Im a full on Christian & I will serve my Lord to my death. I still get messages & dreams that renews my Faith ten fold. He's real & and he's coming soon, so guys repent & seek him before its to late 🕊🕊🕊
What a wonderful experience!
Thanks for sharing.
Thank you for taking the time to share your story :)
That story makes no sense at all.
@barrylafleur8526 It's not a story it happened & here's a quick flyby....atheist...met Yahshua...euphoric....instant believer
God bless you, brother 🙏 ❤️
@@KingOfKings1000yrs I am not buying it.
If you've studied these texts in more depth, you're welcome to share your input/possible interpretations. It takes hours just to begin to grasp this very complex doctrine so I might've missed something here or there.
Pretty sure you'll enjoy this one. If you do, please like and subscribe, it kinda helps :)
Update: never imagined it would blow up that much! So glad y'all are enjoying it! 🙌😆
The physicists Klee Irwin and Nassim Haramein can help with Gnosis
Not GIA CHANNEL..
New world religion agendas
Please make subtitles available
@@murielfoucart860 hey Muriel thanks for the comment, I have already included captions in English + 5 more languages for the video. All you need to do is tap the CC button and choose your preferred language!
Its not about studying the texts. The language is clothed and they mean something different to what most people think they do. They are not only revealing about the time particularly the writers, but they also conceal what they need to. In truth they reveal how much people don't listen, while concealing the truth, especially when people jump to conclusions. Sometimes truth hides behind error. Jesus' wife means something completely different than what most people think a wife means. The texts have a purpose, the very least if there is listening then there is learning and that takes time. To take time to listen and learn what is truth and what is error.
After you read Nag Hammadi, go back to gospels, especially Gospel of John. It's basically the gnostic text within the New Testaments, as well as First Epistle of John.
I personally believe that this sentence is a path: "If you stay in my teachings you are truly my disciples, you will know the truth and truth will set you free".
Now, I don't know anyone who is reading and researching these gnostic gospels but I know myself. I am a sinner and far from perfect but I do live and try to live as much I as I can as Jesus taught. Forgive, help, do good, peace, tolerance and love. I am wondering if anyone else who is researching these writings is living and practicing the same as much as they could in this evil world?
If you do those very well might be the teachings that Jesus mentions "if you stay in my teachings, you will know the truth" , and truth very well might be early Christians beliefs and theory.
"If you love me, keep my commands. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever- the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you"
Jesus also said "I am the Way, the Truth and the Life"...
BULLSHIT
@boriskatic7910 You have no eyes to see or ears to hear. I would have said the same thing years ago but then I found the truth.
@@boriskatic7910 rekose to i farizeji... i objesise Isusa.
@@ChadAltDelete YOU are full of shit. YOU are sanctimonious ,self delusional wanker.
Book of Enoch is esoterical. The books of Enki are superbly interesting human origin story. Uranta is so profound, I have to take breaks but it is the highest explanation of God and the realms. Make more videos.d
Yes I will consider probing these esoteric works sometimes in the future for sure, they sound really interesting. Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video 😇
Urantia is very interesting
3:14 The meaning here: not that Jesus is omnipresent, but that the Christ speaking through him, the consciousness, is. All is consciousness, so Christ is all in that sense, because as a consciousness there are no boundaries or separations to the self. I think that means that Christ is a universe-level consciousness
Humans are still stuck and haven't figured it out only I could have.
Insert references to quantum mechanics of the universe
You got any to throw in, or are you insinuating something for some reason@@fireteamomega2343
Absolutely wonderful. Please dive deeper in these text and share with us.
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV
Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
@@specilegg😊
Entered this place confused and will exit it in a similar fashion, but it's good to know all of the perceived angles that exist. Everything we experience is up to interpretation, same goes for spiritual belief
Hey brother. There is a way to leave with knowledge and understanding. You must look deep within and study the words of Christ. Good luck on your journey!
Amen. Father I choose you over the enemy! I trust, believe, and surrender my life to you and your Son, Jesus Chtist!
Idol worship is so creepy sounding.
I would like to see one where it talks about how ASTROLOGY is the mother of all sciences and how it was prevalent in so many cultures. All major religions have origins in Astrology.
I can work on that! May consider making a video about this in the future 🙌
In the greater Dead Sea scrolls there are many references to astrology, some are daily astrology reports by sign .
I can’t remember how to search it online, but smarter people can figure it out.
I have the book.
The oldest and still the best defined cycle is 20 days, and it does not correlate with planets or stars per say. The 36 decans is the second best and most defined cycle, and planets were assigned to it. The correlation led to a physical way to keep time, but the calendars came first. Astrology has a lot of ambiguity, and often does not work, where the 20 days, combined with the 13 numbers that make the 260 day calendar does. Jung and Freud are born on the same day and number in that system,, and it is simple. Belushi and Farley, both died at the same age, starred in the same show, and had a similar style. they both died specifically from an 8 ball, mixing the heroin and cocaine. They were both born on the same day in the 20 days, but their astrology charts have little in common. learning the 20 days, is the best way for any human to proceed. All cultures had these and ,..the bible also is written using these to a very high degree. Day 12 is the archetype of Jesus. genesis and Exodus (to chap 13) are the best sources and all else copies those. none is history.
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THANK YOU, I like the condensed gnostic information - well done !!! As Ex-Rosicrucian and trained medium in contact with spirit world, other dimensions & beings I can only CONFIRM this. Jeshua said: "My people get lost because of LACK OF KNOWLEDGE." WE need to know & then act upon our knowledge, always aiming at SOURCE, the highest LOVE frequency. Blessings, love & light
Most welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻 I plan on making a second part to this video too
I recently purchased the nag hammadi scriptures. After watching this, i think ill crack it open and get to reading today!
They are interesting reads indeed! Loads of strange stuff in there, so yeah enjoy :)
*To you who read, don't be afraid, God has given you what you need to move forward, look within and you will find the strength and the will you need, don't give up, don't despair, you are a wonderful being with a purpose although I still don't know what that is. You are important ❤💕*
Thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts 😇
what she said❤
THANKS❤
It's a rabbit hole. The more you study it, the deeper it goes, and the more confusing it becomes. Good luck in your endeavors. May you find the truth that would set you free. As Jesus said, the path to the truth is a treacherous and narrow path.
It certainly does
The truth is, that people can get saved without knowing the truth. It's not about knowing the truth. It's about finding the mystery, the secrets. And these are to find even without people even know they found it or not. It's a thing that happens in heart, soul and mind. The pure heart. The lifestyle of the light. It's being a pure soul. No human knows if he/she is or not. Those belong to the light. Even without knowing the truth.
@@Gnosticjesus Yes agreed but those who are saved through shere bliss and innocence are the ones who are easily corrupted or lead astray resulting in fanaticism and extremism. The result of seeking the truth brought us the technology we use today and saved many lives of innocent "witches" from the stakes. Pure hearts and souls requires knowledge of the truth to distinguish right from wrong to keep it remaining "Pure." Finding the mystery is a step taken in result of actively seeking that truth.
and Somerset Maugham said in the razor's edge (in the character of the guru)--"the way to salvation is as hard as passing over the edge of a razor."
@@Gnosticjesus "Getting saved" from what?
It was suggest to me that I stop window shopping spiritual paths.
I did.
After hunkering down in training for several years in one tradition I now have a greater undetstanding of them all. ❤🙏❤
I think the question we should be asking ourselves at this point in time is this, “ why are we not taking it literal?”
I actually do believe some of the stuff written in these texts and similar archaic ones was meant by the authors to be taken literally, despite the biased rationalizations of those who believe in them that they intend 'absolute truth' and should be 'interpreted' in a way as to reveal said truths. Such texts reflect the authors' actual scientific and moral limitations back then. But when we look at other parts of these writings, it's more logical to assume that they were written in some sort of coded language. Why? No idea.
Another question might be, why was it hidden from us? To protect us or to control us.
Cus most ancient religions are all really just telling us one thing meditate and see the light of the “lord” peace and love will follow everything else is conjecture and frivolous
Such as JESUS CHRIST CRUCIFIXION
There is a degree of truth within the Gnostic scriptures. I am a recovered schizophrenic who had a vision of and a confrontation with a serpentine entity with a lion-like face coming out of a portal and entering a cloud that formed in my room back in 1991. After that confrontation, there appeared a beautiful entity with a porcelain like androgenous face and fluttering energetic wings. I had no knowledge of Gnosticism or the notion of Sophia and a Demiurge until 2020. There is definitely something going on beyond the veil, but I'm not quite sure what it is.
That's good... But you reminded me that I never got rid of my schizophrenia 🤨🤨
THANK YOU MY BROTHER!!!!
You're welcome! So glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻 😇
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🇬🇧 I remember reading a couple of books quite a few years ago with many references to Gnosism
But werent per se about it.
One book was by a Reverend Bouquet ( written in the 1920s or 30s) & addressed many strange & odd tales, this book was simply titled Comparative Religions
Another book that i forget the title of but was written by
Mircea Eliade & again i picked up on similarities between both books.
Therefor i cant say for definate which story this came from
But it depicts the Goddess ( Noria or Norea ?Im not sure) who is envious of the creators manifestation of material things
She decides to have a baby from her own creation
By this i took it to mean she didnt create a child with male sperm but as the words stated
She conceived of herself??
And hid herself away from the creator as she hadnt asked him for permission to self create
Anyway she bore a male child who was hideous in appearance but to her he was beautiful & she loved him & therefor wove round him a
Glamour or spell so that he appeared beautiful to all who saw him
Tall, muscular, blonde & blue eyed & very handsome but it was only his mother ( & the creator ) who saw his real image
She called him Samael
I cant remember what transpired next but think Noria the Goddess was banished with her son for her transgressions
Next thing, Samael is a bit of a rotten egg! His activities match his real hidden face of abomination!
He decides to become a god or akin to God, he creates his own adoring minions or human kind but he cannot make them animate, these beings lie flat & crawl about on their bellies floppy & useless.
He rushes to his mother bewailing his situation & because she can refuse Samael nothing she agrees to help him
However she is very angry with him for creating these Beings against the wishes of the creator God.
But since she disobeyed the God when self creating her son she has to help him.
She tells him shes angry & is only helping him because she feels pity for the Beings hes created
She takes the humans & breathes into them her divine breath.
( its interesting to note that the proper meaning in the Adam & Eve creation story where Eve was created from Adams rib the word Tau was used, but the origional spoken hebrew word
Tau meant divine breath, not rib)
The Beings became animated from the Goddess's divine breath & stood upright & walked about & talked to each other.
I dont remember what transpired after this but think, the Goddess had been tolerated by the creator god & she kept to herself & did her own thing.
But Samael made his creations the humans, devote themselves to worshipping him, he loved the adoration & was boastful & vain
& cruel too.
All of this put me in mind of Yarweh & his attitudes & vanity & cruel acts
Im not sure if it was my own thinking or if either of the 2 authors ive mentioned above also put this notion into my mind.
Its a pretty " out there" story but its nothing ive made up
Ive never forgotten the story as it was so outrageous & although i read about this a few decades ago & dont have either of those books ive quoted, in my library anymore.
Im sure they can both be looked up & the story verified somewhere!
Id personally love to read them again as there was so much info id never heard about before, like this story.
Many years later i read the definitive book on The Gnostics by Elaine Pagles which is a must read for anyone interested.
Thank you for your video, i enjoyed it
Peace
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Wow what a story! Thank you so much for taking the time to share this. It bears such a striking resemblance to the creation myth of Sophia and the Demiurge but with different names. And btw, I too get a rush of excitement whenever I hear the words "comparative religions" haha, big fan of this field of study! I can definitely try to look these two books up. And so glad you enjoyed this video 😇 stay tuned for the next one dropping soon!
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Re reading what id written i think the 1st book i mentioned
" Comparative Religion" could have been written by the
Reverend Bosanquet & not Bouquet... its so long ago since i read it but im sure it was published by Penguin Books too.
Mircea Eliade writes books on all topics of religious history & ancient texts so any of his books are brilliant to read!
I thought his name was female when i first read one of "her" books & thought Mircea Eliade perfect for a female child! I was quite surprised when i discovered the name was male! I cant remember his nationality but his books are very informative & cover topics ive not seen from other such writers!
Do hope you find the books & they
Are still in print!
I recently found a pristine copy
Including perfect condition dust jacket, written by the famous British Spiritual Investigator from the 1940s 50s & 60s Harry Price.
Its even signed by him & is a first
Edition!
Its got printed hand mounted photographs of his trances & ectoplasm!
I found it in a charity shop or as Americans call them thrift stores
My book cost me 40p,
less than half of one English pound £.
According to google its a very rare book & of a limited print!
A tatty old copy without dust jacket sold for £150!
Wow imagine what my copy would fetch! But its amazing what can be picked up in junk shops, jumble sales etc!
My Comparative Religion book was in a church jumble sale & i bought it for 10p but since it was published in the 1920s it could very well be out of print now!
Plus i lent my copy out & never got it back! Grrr.
Books are so WONDERFUL 📚
Cheerio for now
Peace
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More recently Edgar Cayce gave very good descriptions of the creation of Adam and Eve. Proper forms that would help souls trapped in matter to now incarnate into these type of human bodies only...and begin the long journey home.
Yeah Samael is Lord God.. he is blind.
Art work included is great! Interesting topic.
That's awesome to hear, thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
That is so amazing last night. My friend that I was watching she's my other half like a twin I mean this girl is exactly like me even feeling we feel of each other. And she said yesterday I'm going to see a spark and start a fire and that's what really happened it was a profound experience yesterday that made total sense of the experience. Thank you Most High for this whole awesome experience father Amen
This was a good vid. I subbed. I have heard of sakla before. I wouldn’t be surprised if the church suppressed certain truths to push their agenda. It wouldn’t surprise me at all. Especially when you start looking into the history of the Vatican. These men and women were anything but holy.
I've always believed that organized religion has a lot to do with politics, some suppression of ideas must take place in order for new faiths to arise, perhaps that was the case. Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for the sub! 🙌
I agree with your comments from my research I found that many books were removed from the Bible and much of the bible was altered and added too, to keep us from the truth. These books are said to be hidden in the depths of the Vatican along with other things.
That Gospel of Thomas quote "for every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of heaven" reminds me of a passage in the Lotus Sutra in which a female child only eight years old and the daughter of a dragon, makes herself a male in order to achieve enlightenment. Apparently it is meant to make the statement that enlightenment is possible, not just for human adult males, but for females, children, and non-human beings to attain.
"The flaw in the subordinate" concept reminds me of the beginning of The Silmarillion, a novel by Tolkien that predates The Lord of the Rings. At the beginning of everything, a choir of celestial beings is singing, but then one begins to sing out of key, and earthly evil then ensues, or something like that.
Wow what an interesting narrative for the beginning of evil haha 😆
And as for the verse from the gospel of Thomas, I actually tried to look for some sort of hidden interpretation behind the apparent misogyny and found something similar to this. It might have been revolutionary for its time to allow females to attain enlightenment, but to us now it's still definitely misogynistic, I don't know. That's the most puzzling thing about this doctrine, tons of metaphors that can have a wide range of different interpretations.
@@lore.keeper Thank you for your reply! The passage certainly does sound misogynous to modern readers. A woman must turn male to be equal to men?! 🙄 Although up until recent times, even in modern western societies, male political and religious authority over women was still predominant, and women's role in society was still seen as mostly restricted to home and family. Therefore many centuries ago, to merely question the social order was seen as very radical, even in early Christian churches in which, alongside the men, many women disciples were evangelizing, teaching, and prophesying, as reflected in the authentic epistles of Paul. In the canonical gospels, Jesus says nothing about challenging patriarchal authority, so his silence implied he consented to it, just as he never questioned slavery. So maybe the Gospel of Thomas was intended by gnostics to at least begin changing that attitude. Apparently since the Roman Church hierarchy deeply feared the effects of women teaching men, they felt a need to forge the "pastoral epistles" and add them to the canon to make it look like Paul had shared their viewpoint and wanted women in churches forbidden from even speaking or asking questions.
I agree that I can't think of an instance where Jesus directly challenged the patriarchal society back then and I too totally abhor many of Paul's teachings regarding the silence of women, the covering of their hair, them being unfit for pastoral roles etc..., but on the other side some people argue that Jesus still showed uncommon treatment towards women that is definitely regarded as favorable. For instance, Mary Magdalene was a major figure in his inner circle at a time where a woman was not supposed to be seen in public company of 13 men, he also forgave and defended the woman accused of prostitution from being stoned to death, and the fact that the very first witnesses of the alleged "resurrection" were women is also an uncommon gesture towards a better depiction of women, being the first witnesses to the most significant event in Christianity, in a society that viewed them as inferior and whose testimony held no weight. Were the gnostic teachings another step further in promoting a better depiction of women? Perhaps. That would be great and quite revolutionary just like you said. But the point is, are we sure that this is the correct interpretation of verse 114?
I personally hope it is :D
I often noticed that the concept of 'female' in ancient texts is used to denote that which is creative/created/inspired; whereas, 'male' often denoted that source from which all that is created springs eternally. It is not about gender per se, but a way of expressing fundamental duality within what is WHOLE in ways that are mirrored in the physical world. All women and men are of the same source, sister and brother,...EVERYTHING springs out of and within NOTHING kinda thing...
First and second John warns of the Gnosticism. The bit about the women becoming a man to get to heaven should ring some serious alarm bells 😢
I believe you're saying that the woman becomes a man literally. But what the gnostics say, as I got from the comments, is that it's all metaphorical. The text doesn't mean a literal change of gender. I don't know for certain what the author meant to be honest but this is at least what the comments here agree on
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Embrace your Present.
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"Before I start, I must see my end.
Destination known, my mind’s journey now begins.
Upon my chariot, heart and soul’s fate revealed.
In time, all points converge, hope’s strength re-steeled.
But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain,
We must see all in nothingness...
Before we start again."
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Women were denied Devine knowledge and no one should be denied this. Nothing should stop you from finding God
The same way the serpen appeared to Eve and told her lies. According to Galatians 1:8.. "Let God’s curse fall on anyone, including us or even an angel from heaven, who preaches a different kind of Good News than the one we preached to you". Let's keep our eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.
If you are not Gnostic, then you will not translate correctly. It's just that simple. Some things that are hidden will always remain secret because they must.
Unfortunately, those who would style themselves as the corrupt leaders of this world are also spiritually blind, (though they see themselves as being enlightened) and they have taken this verse literally, which explains the present push towards transgenderism and transhumanism among them.
They are all in for a rather rude awakening when they wake up for real.
What is St. Irenaeus famous quote?
Probably the most famous quote
from Irenaeus, and one maybe
you've seen floating around social
media, is often given as
"The glory of
God is man fully alive."
I'm deeply amused. Even a broken clock reads correctly twice a day, so it's fitting that this purveyor of mistaken translations was actually right for once.
Very interesting, and enlightening synopsis. Thank you for your efforts, and for sharing the manifestation of them! Heartfelt gratitude.
An intrigued new subscriber here! :)
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About females becoming male, I've read that quote differently years ago as I was looking for the explanaition as to why some christians say women don't have souls. The way it was written then, was women were not allowed to read, and Jesus asked for women to be able to read so they too could gain access to the knowledge to find the way to the kingdom (or something like that, I'm going by my memory here). So it was about becoming like men, to get access to books.
I always wondered how the "perfect words of a god" can be interpreted so many different and contradictory ways to the point that there are literally thousands of different offshoots to the "original" religion. With all claiming to be the "true translation".
If this god cared what we thought, wouldnt it be more efficient to just exist?
Love this comment. In my opinion this is the Achilles heel of the idea of religion as a whole. The existence of thousands of religions, all conflicted, all borrowing from each other, is actually the perfect sign that no god exists.
@@lore.keeperI would argue that it’s the perfect example of how God does exist. The reason most religions share insight, philosophy, stories, events, etc. all encapsulated in different ways is because we as humans all perceive things differently. It doesn’t mean it’s not the same thing. The creator doesn’t care what you call it or how you conceptualize it. It exists far beyond our understanding yet ties all of us together. It is the observer that allows our universe to exist, or perhaps is our universe. It is the consciousness present within every fiber of the atom, every piece of matter in the universe perceivable and more importantly imperceivable. All of the religions are wrong and yet in a way they’re all right. All talking about the same thing that no one can quite get, because how could we. It’s not the point.
The idea is that nothing given all circumstances and environments can be perfect all the time. And so the idea of God really shouldn't be perfection but instead evolving and ever expanding through experiences. And what better way to do so then through our additions our experiences in different creations. Now multiply that by a magnitude of universes... most in which you are aware that you can freely leave. Paul was right in what he claimed.
Which of the 12 universes are we in?
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What is so conflicting about Gnosticism is that on one hand it promotes decentralization of the a larger religious organization, definitely a thing that should come back, but on the other hand is the antisemitic subtext is (as we zoomers say) cringe. A book carrying ideals of the nomads in secular form, but also secularly-strict fascists, those are opposite sides of the political compass (just the bottom and top sides respectively).
Also to clarify I don't see the analysis or even promotion of Gnostic text as antisemitism, though it is meant to be taken more spiritually than fiction, it can have the Lovecraft value in the horror genre of literature, you just unfortunately have to glance past those almost obviously racist undertones in certain stories and texts.
Because Gnosticism has been proven as great for worldbuilding magic/power systems, Japanese media uses this a lot, and creators behind most of those series have shown they are not antisemitic (because it is an actual concern I can understand), like Tetsuya Takahashi's stories in the Xenogears/saga/blade video game series, Hiromu Arakawa's Fullmetal Alchemist manga series, but TBF in non-Abrahamic media inspired by Abrahamic values there can already be a critical lens inherent. It's like how non-Indians got inspired by Hinduism around the mid-20th century, sometimes the idea of understanding others’ wisdom who never experienced the same echo chamber.
After all, nobody could truly know what God is all about nor His mysterious ways, all text is inherently limited and still inked by bias perception of humans, He never possessed humans to write this all down.
90% of the gospel of Thomas is about the fact that Christ is within you. Verse 114 is talking in metaphors, male being the spiritual matter (aka semen) that is the basis of creation and female being the manifested “birthed” reality. Only females can give birth. To make female male isn’t about sexism, it’s saying to return the the corrupted/manifested reality to its true form or source, being the spiritual substance of the creator.
Jizz?
Hmm, I think he was being literal about the apple biters. It could be they suffer an eternal damnation for that act, we don't know anything for sure.
Semen is the fertiliser, everything is in the egg
Amazing content! More on gnosticism please!!!
Thanks a lot, glad you're enjoying the content! 😇🙌 Will definitely consider making a sequel to this video later about the other gnostic texts!
@@lore.keeper awww what a legend!
I marvel that you are turning away so soon from Him who called you in the grace of Christ, to a different gospel, which is not another; but there are some who trouble you and want to pervert the gospel of Christ.
Galatians 1:6-7 NKJV
Gnosticism is a redoing of modern day Freemasonry. People have always been trying to make up their own doctrine even rejecting Christ, but the apostles witnessed Jesus and he was the Messiah the Son of God. Nor is there salvation in any other.
*As the prefix **_"Uni"_** indicates, "one", if there are actually twelve universes instead of only one, then shouldn't it be called the, **_"Dodecaverse",_** instead of, "twelve universes?"* 🤔
Yup that does make sense. The thumbnail is just a quote from one of the gnostic gospels discussed in the video
"Split a rock, I am there. Crack open a piece of wood, you will find me.' This could be taken to be an allusion the the act that the kingdom Jesus speaks of is not accessed through any fancy buildings full of relics with various officers standing between oneself and the Monad. "The Kingdom of Heaven is inside you and all around you; not in buildings of wood and stone." I've been taught an interpretation of Jesus' statement that he can manifest the masculine in the female so that she might enter the kingdom of Heaven, too, but that explanation as it is from a Gnostic perspective is available online all over the place and I'd probably muck it up trying to explain it. It isn't what most might think, though. Not at all.
Oh, right, then there's the Mary and Jesus sitting in a tree bit. The strongest historical evidence to support a potentially consecrated marriage between those two would be Mark 16:9-11 where Jesus reveals himself to her first after the big nasty and then John 20 when she finds the empty tomb. Historically, it would have been the wife's responsibility to attend to her buried husband, as far as I've been able to extrapolate from reading I've done on the subject. And to call something antisemitic ought to be interpreted properly. "Semitic" refers to a linguistic grouping including and Arabic Hebrew, not a race, culture of religions. The world would be a much better place if we were to stop abusing that word.
The big nasty?
@@miguelruiz3324 aka UNALIVED!! by way of the old pagan ritual of the wooden cross.
early christianity had alot of vibes with eastern views. like more on souls and like no harm to animals that noah says...
When the disciples complained about Mary attending their meeting because she is a woman- Jesus's reply - to them was that unless they too become ' like a woman ' they cannot enter the kingdom. A reference to the chemical wedding - a balance of male/female within that makes us whole.
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I agree with most of the Gnostic teachings, mystical and mysterious
I give them that, extremely mystical! I don't know if the authors intended the words to be understood differently by everyone or is there a certain meaning that is yet to surface. I guess that's why their mystery endures till today
The teachings are really neat, but I have issues with the gnostics at the highest level seeing matter and life lived as being based evil to the point that they could not handle a set of certain foods, and they werecommitted to not procreating because Light becoming based in matter to them was life based in needless suffering. Something to think about. If our parents were truly gnostic, we wouldnt have been borne~
@@skelicles You are ignoring the memory erasure of the past lives; our spirits (consciousness) nearly infinite existence, and that it's immortal, indestructible, *plus does not suffer at all, and has great creative abilities, when not in a trap system like this.*
Earth is a realm of hell and one of the worst worlds in existence. That's why life here has to eat another life to prolong it's own, why there is so much horror and suffering etc.
You are also ignoring, that the demiurge is evil and flawed.
What the heck is wrong with you?.
@@skelicles The ancients understanding of evil was different back then from now. They saw matter as evil because matter is coruptable, subject to the laws of change and transformation. This body won't stay like this forever, it will grow old and die, the matter will decay, so will every atom in this existence, hence the refference to the "flawed creation". So when gnostics say that matter is evil they refer to that whitch is subject to change and decay as opossed to the perfect, permanent and unchanging reality of the spirit. That life is suffering is true, but knowledge brings understanding whitch can deliver us from suffering, so life can be redeem, thats salvation. The abstaining from procreation has to do with a special practice that conserves the seed (the sperm) and transmutes it so it gains other functions in the human body. Alot of the knowledge of the gnostics js twisted or misinterpeted.
Which ones?
Verse 77 about the wood and stone, it’s saying that the “son” being all things derived from the father creator have a portion of the creator within them. Thomas places an emphasis on the fact that this truth is hidden in plain sight in many of the the verses. So to say “split a piece of wood and I am there” is saying that within that substance of wood, is hidden a piece of the creator. Hidden under a rock, you see nothing, yet all around you are the works of God. It’s saying that all manifested reality contains a portion of the spiritual substance of the creator, in the myriad forms (called the sons or offspring) of God.
When you say "it appears that the author thought the communion was literal" you forget to mention the catholics say to this day that the communion is the literal body of christ.
Yup I get what you're saying but since not all Christian denominations believe this (most of them don't) I considered it not to be a universally Christian fact when comparing gnosticism to Christianity as a whole. But I get your point 👍
@@lore.keeper According to Pew Research (2013), Catholics are the majority of Christians in the world. I think it is safe to use their doctrine as standard.
Of course it was they actually ate of the body and blood. The practice is apparent when you look at Catholic relics such as fingers of saints preserved in oil filled vials. There was some sort of macabre connection and curiosity that was created to the death and life of those viewed as touched by divinity.
Great video, loved it! Please share the video commentary about one of the Nag Hammadi text codex The Origin of the World.
Thank you, glad to hear that! I'll have to look into it and try to understand it well first because as you know, gnostic texts can be a bit difficult to comprehend 😄 and may consider covering it in a future video!
The only question is what is truth? The real truth, about our lost memory of where our spirit comes from and how we can find the way back to our true plane of existence once we take our clothes off (physical body) at the end of the journey.
To me our existence will end peacefully and we won't feel anything once we die, just like we were in the womb, no consciousness, no sense of oneself, non existence. To me that is somehow comforting. What do you think will happen once our physical bodies die?
It's a perspective shift you lose yourself from a complex macro of many what you might consider consciousness into a defined microcosm of one. Imagine if I turned you into an electron what capacity would you have of your perception as a person ? None although in a sense you gain a different perspective over what is now above and beneath you. So basically don't expect to keep who you are as a conscious entity. For a collective to harmonize you simply can't be an individual.
i think its a metaphor when gnostics said material universe is created by yaldabaoth, its meant to say after the creation of matter ego came arise and separate it self from the source by its separate identity which leads to chaos and evil.
That's like the most interesting biblical fan fiction ever
Haha yeah it totally is!
Still makes more sense than mainstream Christianity or Judaism.
@@rexmagi4606 well, the major 3 abrahamic religions are full to the brim with absurd sht, they are all the same, with each one stealing stuff from the previous one(s) and adding its own hocus pocus plot twist
Except it's not fan fiction, it was part of the scrolls excluded at the council of nicea for political reasons. My bad,not all of it.
@@jessicahay9305 haha yup I'm aware of the war that took place between the early church and the "heresies". But yeah basically it's humans who ultimately decided what is to be called "canon" and what is not. I don't know on what basis to be honest, haven't dug deep into it. Religion in general I believe is, for a big part, about political affairs and to govern/control the masses, although it sometimes serves some good purpose for some people on a personal level but overall it shouldn't be taken so seriously.
Gives me major Legend of to Obverse vibes. Such a profound work and only a few years old. Scary stuff.
Universes or Planets ? I believe at one time our universe hailed 12 , and today we are still looking for for three of these . each has its pull on our planet, and in mythology deity / angels etc. are connected to these , even in Astrology we are connected .
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In tradition a rabbi is married. He was a rabbi, we forget this. There is NO cultural support for him being celibate, that is a separation from reality. "And, historically, many communities traditionally included in their bylaws that they would only accept married candidates as their rabbis" --Since marriage is a central institution of Judaism, it is appropriate that a communal leader lives in accordance with this ideal, and his obligation to marry is thus greater than a layman’s.
Well, historical Jesus is assumed to have been a preacher, not sure if he was a rabbi specifically. There's no cultural support for him being celibate, but on the other hand there's too little historical support for him being married. Plus, the majority of scholarly consensus both Christian and secular maintain Jesus was celibate. This Wikipedia article is great, it delves deeper into the topic en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_bloodline
Jesus' story follows a monomyth pattern. A very common one. He didn't exist any more than King Arthur. It's just written in a genre to keep sheep penned and provide tribal control over people who are more earful than factual.
Come on, do one on basic Gnosticism now. Love your videos, please try to post more often. Subscribed.
I'm so glad to hear you're enjoying the videos! Next video is in the making stay tuned!
Ask for Knowledge in Sincerity
GOD will Answer
Welcome to the collective psyche. Mental desire creates a gap filled by knowledge. Seek and knock and all that sort of stuff. God not required but serves as a mental placeholder for those who need it.
Beautiful presentation.
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"The soul is our mother, and she gives birth to us."
--Gospel of Philip
"They alienate with simulations and appearances; they make a free person into a slave."
--Gospel of Philip
Could you please interpret the second verse? I'm having a hard time grasping what it's specifically referring to. Who are 'they' and who do they alienate?
@@lore.keeper The Rulers, The Authorities, The Archons, The Planetary Powers...
@@lore.keeper "Who do they alienate?" Humanity
@@freethinker79 OK and how does that make a free person a slave?
@@lore.keeper I have my ideas. But I would like to hear what you think first.
Many folks seeking truth *fail to find* 'cos they're easily led astray by worldly logic, high sensuality, vain imagination or specious mysticisms. I know I was. I'm an ex neo-vedantic (hindu roots) new ager. I used to be into so much "spiritual" stuff: trance channelings, ancient wisdom, *gnosticism,* hindu gurus and buddhist mystics. I was illuminated by the *kundalini (serpent) spirit* then 7 years ago I got properly enlightened by the *Holy Spirit* which showed me what a fool I was before. Spirit led me to the real *Jesus Christ* and everything changed - paradigm shifted. This is being *BORN AGAIN* and it's an ongoing surprise to me 😁
It escapes the notice of our self-absorbed, glamour-saturated world that we're in a spiritual war for souls. The immensity of ignorance is astonishing: the dark powers bedazzling the minds of the masses (Ephesians 6:12). We've inherited ancient spiritual subversion: the earth is fallen. The holistic fields of nature are fallen state. Life kills and feeds upon itself. Mankind is a spiritually fallen race highly prone to deceit and delusion. Frankly, we need a *Saviour* and by Jesus Christ we have a *Glorious One*
As a new ager I couldn't believe it but in the *Light of Spirit* Jesus really is the *Way, the truth and the Life* just like He said: no one comes to God except through Jesus, there's no other way (Matthew 7:13-14). As a neo-vedantist I wasn't convinced (I was damn sure I knew better) but turns out the Bible is Spirit breathed, written by men inspired by the *Holy Spirit.* Jesus is vividly portrayed and endorsed in the new testament, in fact he's apparent in the old testament too (Luke 24:27 & 44) and by the *Light of Spirit* we're allowed to *see* that and *know Him.* Any previously perceived discrepancies or contradictions are ironed out and the supernatural narrative flows most beautifully. The Bible is the Revelation of Jesus Christ.
Thanks Darren for taking the time to share your personal experience! While I won't argue with any supernatural claims, the only part I can strongly disagree with here is the persistent view that humans are inherently corrupt and always dependent on an external force, without which they are doomed to fail or 'stay lost'. This to me is quite unfair and counterproductive and in the long term, even *lethal* . I believe we as a species are intelligent enough and capable of awesome things, both moral and scientific. We *DO have our problems* , but we are slowly evolving to better solve them, especially when it comes to morals. I personally think we don't need any outside force to make us good and 'uncorrupt'. Instead of seeing ourselves as weak and fallen, if we believe that we have it in us, and that we are the only ones who can collectively shape our future in a positive way, then we can achieve amazing things. Again, to each their own, just sharing with you my own belief regarding this specific part of your comment, otherwise glad to see your belief is bringing you a sense of fulfillment on a personal level. Thanks again and hope you enjoyed the video 🙌😇
Rubbish...He is not apparent in the O.T. which has absolutely nothing to do with the Aeon Christ. In fact, your Christ lied to the patriarchs via the sin of omission by not directly telling them he was the 2nd aspect of a Trinity. Something they could have easily understood as the trinity idea was ubiquitous in Egypt...Not to mention that David was Tuthmosis the 111 and Solomon was Amenhotep. Read Mustafa Gadalla on that point and google a picture of the Egyptian temple as the so called Hebrew temple is an exact replica.
Enough of the spiritual BS as true GNOSIS is the fact that the O.T. and N.T. are incompatible! Even Marcion understood this...
You do not understand what the New Age is and truly means. It is NOT the hodge-podge of what you described. The imminent New Age/Era is that which Christ will usher in at His promised Second Coming. It will be a time of elucidation that goes far beyond what the New Testament offers/ed. Also, the NT has been misinterpreted, misunderstood , misused and parts of it deleted.
I have 'been there, done that ' where you are now. At the age of 12 through to my late 20s I was a member of a church, when and where I repented , was baptised and (supposedly) received the Holy Spirit. (not so!). I left that religion and its rigid, unenlightened mode of thinking and emotional centeredness as I was frustrated with the lack of wisdom there.
In my search for better explanation, meaning and understanding of spirituality, I discovered the Ageless Wisdom Teachings which are a precurser to the new and ageless teachings that Christ will bring in with His Second Coming. The Laws and Principles of the New Age will be concerned with the individual and group development of the Soul (which/Who is/of and/ on, the higher, abstract mental plane). These Laws and Principles to live by, very briefly are : Right Human Relations, Goodwill, Group Endeavour, Unanimity, Spiritual Approach and Essential Divinity.
The Holy Spirit is grossly misunderstood. It is the third energy which/Who is Active Creative Intelligence and Adaptability. Its purpose is Divine mental perceptions through which Divinity manifests. Its qualities are : the power to manifest, mental illumination, the power to produce synthesis on the physical plane, scientific investigation, balance.
"His work is more closely linked to matter and He works in cooperation with the Lord of the second ray*.
He is the motivating impulse in the initial work of creation ... through the medium of matter he provides
humanity with a vast field of experiment and experience."
Source - 'Esoteric Psychology,' p. 23, from the over 20 books by Alice Bailey, the amanuensis for the Ascended Spiritual
Master, Djwhal Khul.
*The second ray/radiation of energy is Love-Wisdom, which this ray, Christ and Buddha head. Christ with the Love
aspect and Buddha with the Wisdom aspect.
For an extraordinary, deeper and insightful explanation and understanding of the life of Jesus Christ, read, 'From Bethlehem To Calvary'-The Initiations of Jesus, by Alice Bailey.
Also, as an introduction to the Ageless Wisdom Teachings, read, 'Ponder On This, a compilation of/on various topics from the Bailey books on spiritual and other topics. Check out more on The Lucis Trust channel on You Tube.
PS. I too, have had the kundalini experience when I was in my early 20s. I was expressing loving forgiveness to someone who has wronged me when a fiery, cleansing, electric current ran up my spine, through my chakras and wonderfully exploded in and around my head at the crown chakra. I was on a spiritual 'high' for days. This was even well before I knew what it was! It was a ' baptism of fire' experience.
Goodwill Blessings.
Each to there own,, all inner paths to experience. The soul is naturally immortal.. So just what do we do with all this time
I don’t think the separations that you and others throughout time have put on the different mystical aspects of religions really exist
It’s all the same
After reading Carl Jungs work, A lot of the gnostic texts seem to be active imaginations. And the meanings require a cypher that only one's own connection to the depths provides.
This was a phenomenal comment, sir. Thank you for taking the time ti share it with us.
Anything can be Pygmalion people can convince themselves of just about anything and self validate. The real questions are what things exist constantly regardless of ourselves. Why do things balance within our universe does that in itself prove the need for conservative rules ? If this universe that you inhabit had a creator capable of true creation would it need to be conservative ?
May the river of abundance wash away financial challenges, leaving behind a landscape of prosperity. May the garden of health be resplendent with wellness, and may each step be graced by the gentle touch of divine blessings, guiding us through life's journey. 🌊💖🌈
This is the Roman Catholic approved translation and presentation of the Nag Hammadi codices (the "gnostic gospels" are found in this collection of writings but do not compose even 1/3 of it). These writings taken all together represent a scholars study library and personal works of interpretation and decryption. Many of the the 'gospels' have notes written in the liner and are heavily damadged. If you want a full translation and a breakdown on the disinformation campaign surrounding the Gnostic Gopels (and its a seriously hectic and mind blowing report) read 'Not in His Image' by John Lamb Lash.... The Sophianic Myth is a story to correct the species, and this video unknowingly echos the anti-life deception of the true Mysteries of the Telestic Gnostics... happy to answer questions or disagreements.
Or we can just accept it’s all bullshit and accept true spirituality is found within yourself. Your soul is apart of everything including god.
@@Ron_DeForest I only call the shit i have experienced or have sufficient knowledge of "bull shit", and only a portion of what i experience qualifies it as such. There is a metric fuck ton of bs on the topic of the soul, the topic of god, and the topic of everything...I think that speaks to pelethora of mistakes it takes to glean the truth from the accidental b.s. and the intentional b.s. the nag hamadi contains some of the craziest shit ive experienced, but there are few who would risk their academic careers in doing so. its some of the best shit ive come across in a world littered with bs.
John lamb lash not in his image is a book/youtube topic that tackles that well imho.
I didn't know this (first line). From my comments, would I love it or hate it?
Ive had this exact feeling from a very early age. Just learned about Gnostics very recently.
What I dont understand about texts and teachings such as gnosticism or other spiritual knowledge is why was it written and taught in such a closed-off, hidden, codefied, cryptic and secretive way?
Like is their some inherent harm or risk in knowing this stuff objectively? If a person understood "too much" then would it be dangerous in some way?
How come most other forms of knowledge arent closed-off in secret in the same way spirual teachings are?
Yes I ask myself the same question. You'd think that the easier people understood the doctrine the better. Why would they want only a select few to understand it? It's a strange logic indeed
Imitation of the Sacred (mimesis). Mother Nature speaks in symbols.
@freethinker79 I'm aware everything "speaks" in symbols and concepts but what bothers me is the vagueness and nuance of the interpretation of these symbolic concepts within mysticism, spiritualism, esotericism when compared to other forms of knowledge.
@@mrwillard95 "Heed these words, you who wish to probe the depths of Nature: If you do not find within your Self that which you seek, neither will you find it outside. If you ignore the wonders of your own House, how do you expect to find other wonders? In you is hidden the Treasure of Treasures. Know Thyself and you will know the Universe and the Gods." --Oracle of Delphi
@@freethinker79 Did an AI write this? Because I dont see how this vague comment is relevant to my original post, or maybe I'm just to ingornat to understand the wisdom here.
Also can you describe what constitutes as the "treasures of treasures" and how "knowing oneself" leads to it?
I really did enjoy your video as I was very interested in NHT's purchasing both versions - one called the NH library
the other same if I remeber but the reader has to peice together missing parts using scholars interpretations listed at bottom of page, on their thoughts regarding the possible meanings of missing texts peices.
Blessings of Love Light from Australia
Yes it was really fun to research this topic too and try to think up possible interpretations! To be honest a few made sense to me personally but other interpretations had some credit. It's a fascinating doctrine to study, very complex and can be understood in many ways. I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! 🙌🏻 Blessings and peace to Australia 🙏🏻
Those who know, do not speak. Those who do not know,
speak too much.
Please tell me I'm not the only one who got IMMEDIATELY distracted by the Skyrim screenshot at 10:55! XD
Great video, but that took me right out of it (though if intentional, that is hilarious and amazing!)
Nope, it wasn't intentional, didn't think it would be *that* distracting though haha 😆 glad you loved the video! 🙌🏻
@@lore.keeper No worries! :D Great educational video, and honestly loved the reference! (Been playing Skyrim since it came out in 2011. lol)
You sound like Fat Tony from the Simpsons and I love it.
Heard the exact same thing before in the comments, looks like there's consensus 😆 thanks anyways bro 🙌😂
@@lore.keeper it's a wonderful thing and a great attention grabber for folks like myself.
Actually, I wrote the later Gnostic books... They only get more insane 🤔🤨
I’m a therapist and spiritual director that uses Gnostic ideas in my therapy. What I get out of “making Mary male” is the breaking of gender stereotypes as women find their masculine side. In the message is also a conviction for men to find their feminine side. Humans are more spiritually and psychologically sound when they find the balance between HARD and SOFT. As for the Demi-urge: I see this metaphorically as an intellectual deficient way of seeing the Creator as was described in the Old Testament. And with Sophia behind the creation, it seems as if there’s a practical lesson in understanding the fine line between intuition and distortion. In the end, the message is for each of us in our lives to know ourselves..and Love ourselves. We are balanced, happier, and able to live healthier lives when we do so. And if the world as a whole can do this, it would be an entirely different world indeed. That’s what I, personally, take from it.
This is a great take on the text but I ask myself, is that what the writers actually meant? With intensely esoteric texts like Gnosticism, basically a multitude of meanings could be possible. Everyone interprets them in their own way, but the mystery still remains, what did the writer actually mean!
Excellent production
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
Well done. You did a good job of being neutral and just presenting the facts without taking any side. I like that.
Thank you so much, that's amazing to hear! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌
The "flaw" in matter is personal, not impersonal or cosmic. Each of us creates our own experience of reality. Please note I didn't say each of us creates our own reality, I said each of us creates our own experience of reality. The difference is crucial to understand because each of us has elements in our experience of reality that we don’t want, and those things are there because of a fatal flaw in our human psychological make-up.
That flaw primarily takes two forms: 1. The belief that there’s no divinity and we’re alone in this world. 2. The belief that there is a divinity, but we’re disconnected from it.
We each have a responsibility to ourselves and to the entire human race to become fully conscious of divinity and our oneness with it. We must remove the flaw, individually and collectively.
Am beginning to believe that to those who find the path to these writings, who read from them and absorb them into their own consciousness , are willed or meant to take their own interpretation from them. When first reading Secret book of John, I thought the writer had been partaking massive psychedelics. My mind tried to explain them away. Thibk the purpose is to not let the ego do that.
Each time reading or listening to I take a new meaning away. 🕉️
I did read that where John lived it was common among the people to use drugs, has anyone else come across anything like this in their readings?
take this verse from the Gnostic gospels.
The Gospel of Thomas is a manuscript containing a collection of sayings of Jesus that was discovered among a hoard of ancient manuscripts at Nag Hammadi in Egypt in 1945114 Simon Peter said to them, "Make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life." Jesus said, "Look, I will guide her to make her male, so that she too may become a living spirit resembling you males.
For every female who makes herself male will enter the kingdom of Heaven."
However, if it is understood as a metaphor drawn from the culture of the day, it fits well with the Gnostic world view.
Does this mean Christians once supported trans rights?
The twelve or ten universes mentioned here sound like the extra dimensions of "String Theory" in physics!
Honestly I really doubt the original author meant this! 😆
@@lore.keeper Yeah, me too, but what about the book of Enoch?
@@michaelbartlett6864 it's a quite interesting book, I think I may cover it sometime down the road! Need to delve in it a little deeper first
@@lore.keeper That could be quite interesting, especially the references to space travel that I have heard about in it.
@@michaelbartlett6864 whoa space travel?! Um not aware of that, I haven't delved too deep into the book of Enoch to be honest, can you please tell me a verse that you think refers to space travel so that we can evaluate it?
Thank you for this. It only adds now to my ongoing pursuit of Gnosis
So glad you enjoyed the video! Good luck on your journey 🙌🏻
Power and wisdom can not be if it's not through the struggle of knowing what power is and what wisdom is. This Aeon is the ground in which power and wisdom are developed. With time being relevant and also not relevant.
Liked it enough I subscribed 🤷♂️😁✨️✨️🙏
Haha thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
Jesus fought with the Scribes and Pharisees, and called them white-washed walls, filled with dead men's bones, despite telling his disciples to love their enemies, as he obviously learnt to do, by his trial. And, if the Gospels didn't record this, then we would hardly believe that Jesus could utter such shocking phrases, considering how loving he was. Likewise, Jesus could have fought with Mary, and said such shocking things about her, because he obviously had a short fuse, early in his ministry. And, since Mary sabotaged his perfect dreams, by making him turn water into wine, in defiance of God's will, to cause John the Baptist to lose faith in him, why wouldn't Jesus try to excuse his mother, by blaming her shocking mistake on being a weak-minded woman, to justify defying his own moral code? Eventually, Jesus forgave everyone who sabotaged his perfect dreams. So, why would people promote these derogatory statements, instead of realizing that Jesus learned obedience, by the things which he suffered, like Hebrew 5:8 makes obvious?
so satisfying and resonating understanding - is your comment at about 3:01 a light hearted appraisal? the cannon as it is ... could be ...more.. (as it is has been the impetus for my search outside it) a deep heartfelt thank you for your skill and understanding putting this video out here. more anytime - Thank you
Of course I didn't mean to say that the "current Christian canon" is more "right" or anything, thank you for understanding. And I'm so happy you found the video entertaining! Blessings 🙌🏻
Great, thank you for responding - it is the current cannon i dont completely trust. I look forward to your take on other gnostic text in future. Top of the day!@@lore.keeper
@@nunyabinnus yes I agree that the current cannon should be distrusted seeing that the 4 synoptic gospels too were written by anonymous authors. I will also be doing a part 2 of this video later down the road. Thanks again for tuning in!
Man creating AI is a simile of God creating man.
I personally disagree but to each their own! 😆 Thank you for taking the time to comment your thoughts! I do hope you enjoyed the video 🙌
This was great!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed the video 🙌😇
The 1st century Christian monk Marcion of Sinope made the observation that the character of the god of the Old Testament was very different from that of Jesus. His conclusion was that the god of the OT was not the same true God who was the Father of Jesus. The OT god purportedly proclaimed that gay people and adulterers should be stoned to death, where as Jesus taught "let ye who is without sin cast the first stone." Once I heard the notion that a lesser "demiurge" created the material universe, that always made sense to me. It makes more sense than to believe that God decreed "thou shalt not kill", but whispered "except for THESE people". Nobody knows for sure, but this is a truly interesting idea/concept, that the world was a mistake. It seems so, if you look at it in totality, and the forces that influence it most heavily.
I totally agree with you that the god of the old testament is DEFINITELY not the same as Jesus of the new testament, no matter how much biased believers try to reconcile the two by jumping through impossible logic hoops. They are just irreconcilable. Anyone who's objective enough can easily see this. Perhaps the whole demiurge thing was the gnostics trying to come up with a more logical(?) solution. Being atheist, I don't believe in both, but it seems to me the gnostics spotted these irreconcilable deities early on.
@@RealRawRecoveryRedemption In 1 Samuel 15 it said that God called for the murder of women, children, and animals. Any human being that did that would be labelled a psychopath. If anybody hears a voice telling them to kill women, children, and animals, it's probably not the voice of God, bro. You want to endorse that, b/c God is "just"? I don't believe Jesus was a hypocrite. Philip asked Jesus what God was like, and Jesus replied "If you've seen ME, you've seen the Father." If selective murder was what God is truly like, then Jesus would have preached the same. Jesus said the two most important commandments were to love God, and love thy neighbor as thyself. He said to love your enemies. You cannot love someone and then murder them. Jesus said that Satan was a murderer from the very beginning. That's the voice that anybody is hearing when telling them to commit murder, not the voice of God/Christ/Holy Spirit.
No two people are going to have the same beliefs about everything related to God and the Bible, even Christians. I think we will agree to disagree, I wish you peace and a Merry Christmas.
The simulation is an accidental oversight of celestial project managers?
That tracks.
Thank you so much for this video. This opens my eyes somewhat Because I am a Born again Christian and an ex leader of the Freemasons. In dreams I was told that I was a bridge between these two organizations because they both feared and hated each other and myself because of who I served and believed in. Early in my life I knew without of a shadow of doubt that I would seek out and find God within my lifetime, that is why I go by the name "RMooreofGod".
Christ was a mason it's called a Tekton.
RMooreOfGod, severely cool name.
@@AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 Wow, never heard that before.
Did you mean your dream said you’re a bridge between Freemasonry and Christianity? Have you found that to be an accurate description of a pattern in your life?
Read Cosmic consciousness, bucke
The Bible is symbolic. It never made sense to me until i started watching William Donahue's videos on youtube. Highly recommended.
Do you mean that *all* the Bible is symbolic? Because there are definitely portions that claim to describe actual history even if part of these stories may be historically inaccurate or didn't happen, but I personally don't think it should all be treated as symbolism 🤔
@lore.keeper Maybe not all of it. I'm sure there's alot of mysticism, myth, allegory, parables and even some based on real events. Take into consideration translation and the way people spoke in those times. Then also take in consideration each author is filtering through thier own perceptions and experiences.
What if murdering children was referring to abortion?
Well that's an interesting proposition, perhaps this is the case, given the old misconceptions about abortion. I for one understood it in the sense that they literally kill their children after giving birth to them. Yet it could also be something else altogether, like a symbolism that's not meant to be taken literally. That's the confusing thing about gnostic texts, multiple possible interpretations but we don't know which one is supposed to be intended.
I came to that conclusion at first, but the preceeding sentence regarding sleeping around in my name, {paraphrased}, kind of threw that off as concerning this day and age.
Murdering children is referring to the common practice of infanticide. Today it’s still practiced if you birth a girl and wanted a boy in say India, where girls are despised until they can be a workhorse, but boys bring ‘honor’.
Might make that ‘I can become a man and therefore holy’ passage a lot clearer.
You pro-birth freaks are nutty. You worry so much about a fetus but do so little to care for living children.
@@lore.keeperplease decipher
: for millennia they have seen the light of all humanity so they ask why don't these have a light , but now they know the light of the Elect is hidden by their image and the Elect now walk among them . they understand the Elect weren't locked in this realm with them - they are locked in this realm with the Elect , they only have one place to flee as they can't stay here because this real is about to roll up like a scroll in the fire .
make your way you need not fear the sabbath he has nowhere to go and is trapped but he too shall join the All but has no claim to you for you join the All before him . the Scorned shall become the Honoured and the Blind God Whom the Saviour calls the Kind God and Whom He loves as Himself will walk as The Great King amongst Kings so go in Peace rest in Peace and be in Peace with Him for is your Creator
enjoy a thousand years of Peace with Him
Excellent presentation, I would like to know the origin of the ethereal background music used in the beginning, it's quite beautiful. Thank you. 🙏😔
Thank you! So glad you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
The intro track is 'Godsend' by composer Johannes Bornlöf, it's heavenly!
@lore.keeper, thank you so much, and thank you for your timely response! I had originally typed a question about why you used the image of Abraxas a few times, when in my knowledge it was simply an initiating symbol for a Roman cult, not necessarily associated with the Christian Gnostics, but I watched a few more videos and I'm starting to realize the significance (I think, lol).
@@PoFFizdaMan you're most welcome! Yes I've seen references to the abraxas in almost every article related to gnosticism on Wikipedia, there's definitely some connection there 😆
@@lore.keeperis it because they considered Abraxas one of the Archons?
@@PoFFizdaMan yes I've just read that a couple minutes ago when I checked again, they considered it the 'Great Archon'.
Verse 114 in the Gospel of Thomas is not referring to the physical female form but the union of opposites. Yeshua means that Mary is missing the Sacred Male aspect of her Self, one of courage and wisdom. She has the divine care and intuition of the Sacred Mother, however she exists out of balance with the phallic archetype
I would love to see any material you have referring to "THE LAW OF ONE".
I honestly haven't heard of it before until now, I searched it up and it seems like an intriguing topic, will definitely consider having a go at it!
Wow, that makes sense of a lot of the negative cultural church attitudes against women. Horrendous results.
Yes. We should speak if female & I will tell you some of what came to me that was hidden about wo men 4.5 years ago
women and men have had negative church attitudes against them. I just read the literature and it's better to follow Jesus not just other people who preach. We have false prophets
Actually they were the opposite of horrendous results. Suppressing the female chaotic force is basically step 1 for a chance of any sort of advanced civilization to develop. you know it's not really a coincidence that our own (western) civilization is on a decline since liberal movements of 20th century - it happened to the Romans as well.
where izlam borrows some stuff from too. i guess... same treatment to women. 😦😁
cant believe jesus agreed with petey tho. smh... males only in heaven?? lol ill gladly pass then.
12 main cranial nerves
12 tribes
12 disciples
Christ was crucified at 33
There are 33 vertebrae in your spinal column
33 degrees to free masonry
33 main Hindu gods
Christ was crucified between two thieves
The right and left brain hemispheres
Christ was crucified in Golgotha
Golgotha literally translates as skull
When you are ready it will unfold for you
😂😂😂...this is funny as hell. Once again, Italy Rome put their European KJV Bible together from other Sumarian texts & cave drawings for specific reason. Color... it's to divide, conquer, & control. Continue doing your research & observation. Peace ❤
Yup, and this is exactly what all other religions do throughout history, not just Christianity to be fair 😆 they all borrow from other ancient texts that came before them, and then add their distinguishing element to suit their own political and cultural context. Religion evolves from previous forms like any other thing on earth. It's a fascinating look into how creative our species is. Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video 💙🙌
imagine if there had been copyright laws and lawyers back then. Humanity would have had better things to think about rather than plagiarised, doctored and corrupt "holy" texts and might have progressed further.
As I understand the KJV of the bible was edited by a Freemason under supervision of the Masonic order. Does that make Freemasonry a malevolent organization in your estimation? I only ask out of curiosity, I have no particular opinion one way or the other... yet. I'm just trying to piece together this extremely complex puzzle of different secret societies, their purposes, influences on society and whether they are acting out of good or ill will.
@@wesleypipes5673Octagon controls all, they are all organizations. They are all the ISMs. In the name of the last human city in the Matrix, you will find your answer.
The lifting a stone quote from Thomas I have always interpreted as there being no need for a church.
Could you please elaborate? I can't quite get the link
@@lore.keeper if Jesus (god) is everywhere, in a piece of wood, under a stone, there is no need to pray or worship in a certain place. This sentiment is also backed by the idea of praying in a closet, in private. (Matthew 6:6-7)
@@darkhorsiesmedia aha I get what you mean now
@@lore.keeper I would also go further and say, if all things are imbued with God, that makes the Eucharist redundant. All food we put on our mouths has been consecrated, so there's no need for a middle man. I believe that's the real reason these texts were excluded / repressed.
@@darkhorsiesmedia well, that's definitely another way to look at it! But I guess that to Christians, the eucharist is more of a remembrance of Jesus' crucifixion than anything else although it may have further theological implications too
Sophia is the first daughter of God's creations. She desired to impress her Father/Mother, secretly hidden in a dark cloud in heaven. Where she failed ,is she was not willing to give from herself, the true compassion of creation which her Father/Mother gives all life. Her creation was deficient of compassion, which in turn became the evil we experience upon this earth. The evil ones who claim to be the gods of man. Sophia felt remorse and regret and guilt for those are the natural components' of God's creations. So in repentance, Sophia manifested into 4 earths. which we are on the second earth at this moment. Each earth higher then the other, a stairway to heaven. This earth is not evil, humanity is. Chosen with their own free will, believing liars who claim authority and to be the god's of man, till this day.
Thanks for the extra explanation! 😇
But why, why didn't God just have males like Simon and Peter and all the males all over the universe wanted, a world without females? Seems like God wasted his time creating us, now I see where men got their hatred for us after so many years.
@@annt.7785 There are good women and good men. Also there is bad Men and bad women, it is a choice of free will. Not a waste of time for when the Male and female come together in harmony they become something wonderful. beyond this kind of world. Where mankind chose to be evil.
@@annt.7785 This world is ruled by evil intentions. For mankind is too cowardly to serve true justice and prevent evil from ruling this earth. It is an occult which rules this earth, this is the age of occults. Only because no one has the compassion or courage to serve true justice, at this time. soon.
Great video. Thanks for the education.
Thank you! Happy you enjoyed the video 🙌🏻
never knew in gnostism had 12 universes pacificaly, always thught if multable there would be meany more, but in DBZ theres also 12 universes.
Specifically, thought, multiverse?, many more … dragon ball z. I had to correct the grammatical errors. You’re probably a child or a foreigner just helping out.
Maybe dbz got this from Gnosticism
christians dont exist in the world of dbz tho and they have angels and gods and demi gods and one supreme god who is a child...
also demons too. which are drawn in traditional japanese oni style u see in paintings.
its prob inspired from asian or hindu spiritual stuff which is in dbz lore. like reincarnation.
also there were i think 18 originally before zeno erased em. lol love dragonball.