How the Dead Sea Scrolls "Bible" Differs from the Traditional Hebrew Text
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- Опубликовано: 22 ноя 2024
- Of course, we know there is no "DSS Bible" per se, but 40% of the scrolls are from Hebrew Bible texts--but they have significantly different readings, some of which agree with the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and the Samaritan Pentateuch. In this recent on-line presentation Dr. Tabor offers an overview of the topic and introduces resources for further study.
One major point, that most sources have missed, is that representations of the book of Esther--previously thought to be missing from the Scrolls, has now been identified--don't take this Purim find too seriously, but enjoy the read: www.thetorah.c...
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On Purim we read the Megillah of Esther. We also drink wine to the point we cannot distinguish between "blessed is Mordechai" and "cursed is Hamman." Thus it is fitting that the fragment from the book of Esther had wine spilled all over it. Evidently the Essenes really got into the spirit of Purim.
This was actually an April Fool's joke! No such scroll exists.
Abegg DDS Bible is essential .. good recommendation.
I thought the essenes were teatotallers though?
@MZT See the original post and I hope you can figure out by the early paragraphs it is totally "tongue in cheek." Many missed that...and "April Fool" joke is a designation meaning one takes something serious, even nearly believable and plays with the hearer. www.thetorah.com/article/newly-deciphered-qumran-scroll-revealed-to-be-megillat-esther
@MZT still funny
I, accidentally, found you on Utube and have been fascinated with your knowledge and presentations.
I’m a 73 year old Jewish man who is probably defined as almost agnostic but the feelings of the Judeo Christian are so strong in my life.
I find you to be very moving and inspiring. You have rekindled in me something that I have been looking for, for many years.
Hello Stephan, I am curious to hear more about what you are saying here. What exactly do you mean that the Judeo Christian feelings are so strong in your life? And what are you getting from this video. I am so shaken by all the searching I have done and have only today come to this video. I am not sure what he is teaching and what I am to believe anymore. I was raised in a conservative Christian church and walked away from it a few years ago when they couldn't give me real answers to my questions. I do know that I miss believing in Jesus. I wanted him to be real but now I am just not sure. I would appreciate your elaboration on what you know or have learned?
Almost agnostic means “secular”. in the true sense, meaning you look at things sort of like the Sadducees. or like those Jews who had a platonic view of God?
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Thank you for your interest.
I watch you tube all day. I don’t remember what the original video was.
If you please show me the original, I would greatly appreciate it.
@@stephenafromowitz8362 you're the man, Stephen. God bless.
The search for Truth is a lifelong pursuit, and there are many serpents trying to deceive you all along the Way. Jesus was Jewish too. His disciples were Jewish. God intended for His chosen people to bring Christ's Kingdom on earth, by teaching the Gospel to the whole world. That's how the Jews were intended to make the world a better place. It was by producing the Messiah, and spreading His divine Word. There's still plenty of work to do for Christ Jesus.
As a Christian, I find it refreshing to come across a truly non-biased conversation about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Excellent information!!Thank you for your work and your time. I appreciate the recommendations of the books too.
I mean the scrolls prove literary mimesis taken from the teacher in the scrolls, also hellenistic mimesis taken from Greek literature as Dr Denis Mcdonald points out, the true teaching of Jesus would have been a sayings gospel no narrative just jesus said jesus said etc
Not one word mentioned in Dead Sea scrolls about Jesus.
@@stevens8490 the DSS were written before Jesus of Nazareth was physically born. While it doesn’t say “Jesus” anywhere, it prophesies of the Messiah which Jesus was the fulfillment. They ALL expected the Messiah to come within the beginning of the first century A.D./C.E per biblical prophecies like the prophecy of Daniel which literally counted the years until His arrival.
@@shayalynn There were documents also found that were writings that included discussions of Jesus and Paul and the apostles.
And ˹on Judgment Day˺ Allah will say, “O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you ever ask the people to worship you and your mother as gods besides Allah?” He will answer, “Glory be to You! How could I ever say what I had no right to say? If I had said such a thing, you would have certainly known it. You know what is ˹hidden˺ within me, but I do not know what is within You. Indeed, You ˹alone˺ are the Knower of all unseen.
I never told them anything except what You ordered me to say: “Worship Allah-my Lord and your Lord!” And I was witness over them as long as I remained among them. But when You took me,1 You were the Witness over them-and You are a Witness over all things.
( Alamaida, 116,117, Coran)
Alamaida= the Table
Allah=Elaha=Elohim= GOD
Dr. Tabor has such a gentle and wise energy, I could pick this man’s brain for hours and enjoy every minute
Dead sea scrolls give us a window on qumranian essenes, and we might be able to extrapolate something about the galillean essenes. It's not crazy to think they had plenty influence on the formation of early christianity. Many people will be surprised at how fluid the theology has been over time though. The more we learn about history, the weirder religion gets.🕯
Bees monk ! What's up sausage, that's very bad language! You know it's people like you killing religion, people need to have an open mind, sensible debates and arguments, not to just tell people to shut up when something they don't like is mentioned!!!
@@kevingrass6812 sitting down and shutting up is most my religion,tbh
Here is The True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Fluid is an understatement.
Thank you for this scholarly presentation. The stimulus for getting my Bachelor's degree in Comparative Religion from a secular university was because of my quest to learn as much as I could about the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism from an academic perspective rather than simply push the "I believe" button to accommodate a certain theology. I questioned how so many clergies from different denominations and even different churches within those denominations could have such a widely divergent theology when all claim to have the Bible as the foundation of their belief system. My answer came of course in seeing the Bible as a collection of texts written by ancient Jews for ancient Jews and not for modern Christians with little or no critical understanding of the Bible's origins, linguistics, and social and historical context. Professor Tabor, you do a great service to us all with your excellent presentation. I only regret that I did not find your channel sooner.
books also.
I can't work out how nonsecular degrees are given out in some countries. It's not academia. Glad you also did comparative religion, I did that for my post grad after Classic UG. Such an interesting topic isn't it?
@@somniumisdreaming I can’t work out how people that claim to be the arbiters of what is academia and what is not cannot figure out what God is…
What are you using to decide that something is or isn’t academia if not the one true God that is like a tree of knowledge of good and evil (Logic)?
What do you think used logical division to split order and chaos?
What do you think our study of logic observes and reckons with?
@@somniumisdreaming the is no knowledge that exists that did not come from the one true God.
The source of knowledge, proof, proper reasoning and all that is logical is the one true God, also studied as Logic.
Some people simply cannot understand the truth and the source of truth. They backslide into idolatry and worship mythological man-gods rather than the one true God that is Logic itself (the source of our study of Logic).
Interpreting the Dead Sea Scrolls is a fascinating problem. I try to imagine how well we’d understand American culture if it were based on a single torn up newspaper.
Yah, a discarded newspaper section may be a snapshot of a specific point in time, but if the context is lost over time it is relegated to curiosities and mysteries until enough accumulate. Then, scholarly research can hopefully say they were newspaper clips and this is the date. Personally I believe what relegates ancient writings to a category of 'sacred or Holy' would be in preserving the sense of tomorrow will come and it will be better, so that people can hang in there in bad times.
I am so glad Christian's are open to research and analysis of the Word of God. In the end God will ensure His Word will prevail. "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."Mat 24:35
The Righteous Right Hand: can you elaborate on your comment as to why you are glad Christians are open to research and analysis???
@@ddp8972 The Bible which is the Word of God was revealed to His prophets of old, I would say going back 4000 years.
Since then His Word has been continually revealed to His chosen ones. Over the years scribes have recorded and very carefully maintained them with the highest care. God always had a remnant who kept His Word though traditions and laws and storytelling. We are confident that what we read today, which are translations, is a reliable source for our faith, because the scriptural manuscripts have been analyzed, researched, compared with other historical documents and traditions etc
The translations are true copies of the manuscripts they are based on. Between manuscripts itself there is little variation that affect core beliefs and doctrines, considering the 4000 year spread.
Christian's are also open to discussions and are honest enough to identify discrepancies in translations if any. We know this is not mans word because of the prophesies that were fulfilled and God will preserve His Word for all generations.
It's true that God doesn't want us to be dumb non thinking people. He wants us to ponder these things and wrestle with His word. Nothing more but the blood of Jesus the Christ who became sin for us. AMEN
Ahh the 90s. What a great decade. Only I wasn't in the classroom. Great presentation. Thank you Mr Tabor.......
Was very nice to hear from a member of the church speak to us about the Dead Sea Scowls. Thank you.
He’s not a member of the church 😂
Scowls? 😂
Finally, an unbiased-Dead-Sea-Scrolls scholar. I wish, sometime earlier, I would have found your work.
Absolutely
Nehemiah Gordon... worked first hand on the actual scrolls, along with Aleppo Codex and so many of our worlds most ancient scriptures & manuscripts.
@levi we're all biased, the key is to ignore the ones who pretend they aint.
Hah! Unbiased! The whole time he continually refers to his antireligion, anti faith stance... its all biased here and the flock just eats it up. Whats that called?
@@joshuajames972 best comment I have read in a long timd
Interesting confirmations here when comparing the Scrolls and other Texts. Language translation changes and biases account for most of the differences we have.
" Language translation changes and biases account for most of the differences we have". WOW. You really had to waste time and tell us that?!?!?! SHEESH. The sun is hot. Penguins are not delicious. YAH. THANKS BRO.
@@Onemore59
Ha ha! I learned something new about Penguins though. Thank's.
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@@douglasturner6153 I enjoyed your positive response. May the Creator bless you.
I have just found your channel and am utterly fascinated. Thank you for your scholarly research and explanations. I read VanderKam and Flint's Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls over a decade ago and became absolutely rapt with desire to learn about this subject. I find all biblical scholarship fascinating, but the fact we are reading scripture written about 3000-3200 years ago is incredible. Thank you to all of you who put these great works into the lay persons hands and a special Thank You to this channel for explaining the scrolls in lay terms. You are awesome sir, keep up the great work!
@Joe Luda, check out Prophecy Watchers there's more by Ken Johnson. God bless!!!
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God rejected the Jews after they caused Jesus Christ to be crucified!
I agree because I remember in the 60’s the controversy was huge that my dad an agnostic discussed at our dinner table but who had control of those scrolls to prevent the scholars to study as archeological knowledge is important. I just seek knowledge with a constant open mind as closed minds stop growing.
Why isn’t “woman” above all as the “One” since the Greeks consulted the priestesses of Apollo as they received the information from the Gods to give to anyone that required advice from Zeus . Women have never been allowed equality of thoughts, power or leadership except during Greek civilization that women should always ask this question from the moment born.
Thank you so much for this religiously unbiased video presentation. I like how you presented the textual variations, without dogmatically imposing (forcing) your opinion, as to which textual reading is the original. You let the listener see the big picture and this draw their own conclusions.
At some point I want to purchase the English translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I only wish I could read directly from the original Hebrew text of the Dead Sea Scrolls, or Masoretic Text.
And... of course, being able to read the NT Greek would be nice too.
The ESV Bible is updated with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Look at Deuteronomy 32:8 in the ESV.
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.[b]
Here is that note [b]
Deuteronomy 32:8 Compare Dead Sea Scroll, Septuagint; Masoretic Text sons of Israel
A Dr. Michael S Heiser wrote several books. One called The Unseen Realm. Might want to check it out. He just passed away February 2023. Sad only was 60. He has several stuff on RUclips.
Here is The True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
it’s easier to learn to read a language than it is to speak it, just pick one and get started, I learned to read Russian with RUclips and google earth😂
I was enthralled when I discovered at about age 18 the scrolls were found, and I latched on to them as soon as they were successfully translated. Now at 75 years of age I'm still excited about all archaeological discoveries, and I honestly believe the Essenes were sent by Almighty God to be there for the Advent of Jesus of Nazareth, and they mysteriously "Disappeared" after His Divine Holy Appointment. Jesus Yeshua is Lord and King there is NO other.
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Interesting conjecture.
The term "essenes" was meant to be derogatory. Same as "christian".
Thank you Dr. Tabor. I always like comparing the similarities & seeing the differences between the DSS & my Hebrew Tanakh.
This scrolls is is confirming the islamic perspective.Can you look at it
@@galielachmat2087 how is it confirming Islam?
@@christo-chaney connect t he
Connect the dots,look into the story of the prophet like Moses ,coming. As well as the 3 priests.(Prophets).
@@christo-chaney The 40
Years is the rule of Jesus after his return,he will live for 40 years
The people I know talking about the DSS online right now are Dr Tabor, Dr John J Collins, and Dr Kipp Davis. It would be wonderful for a channel like MythVision or Digital Hammurrabi to host all of you at once for a discussion!
MythVision 🖕🖕🖕 #FreeDrPrice
@@HistoryandReviews Are you drunk and lost yet again?
Thank you for your references!!!💓
Ken Johnson also does a great job on the Dead Sea Scrolls
@@HistoryandReviews intelligent comment...
46:50 Only through the suffering of his soul, can any man see the light and satisfaction should translate as final happiness. This should be used more often to explain how we are supposed to learn from all those sufferings which occcur upon the earth, and rather than accuse God of allowing suffering, we should praise God for providing us the opportunities to learn and enlighten.
Wonderfully said. I needed to hear that today.
@@katherinebruce500 The real help is understanding that Cain never ever killed Able and that story explains the delusional creation of our imagination being separated and disconnected from biology
The only suffering that takes place is when a baby copies mums swollen (she is terrified) Amygdala
What's the Amygdala ?
That's Able
@@gratefulkm To each his own. I believe the Bible's theory.
It just gets so horrifically painful sometimes. Victor Frankl said that if you can find a good reason for suffering,you can bear it,but too often it's just senseless.
Just ordered the book. This is a great example of excellent YT content. Thanks for posting.
Great Content.
Love how you show us the books & not just talk about them.
Thankyou
From what I learned it gave credence to the apocryphal writings related to the Septuagint as compared to the Masoretic Text.
I’m thankful to be able to watch these
I found Dr Tabor through watching all these different documentaries, and especially the Simcha Jacobovici ones. One of the things that I love is the ability to be neutral on this stuff.
Simcha denies Christ's blood
@@jacobchristian6429 ..... And???
@@jacobchristian6429
the Jesus story starts right off the bat with a lie !!!
the Virgin birth, his birthday belongs to other deities before him ???? and fake risen body ... Greek myth mixed in with Hebrew reinvent religion Jesus is actually Joshua/ Yehoshua except Joshua died in battle laying by a rock ..
the fake Jesus died , forsaken on the cross by God
@@3wolfsdown702 wrong. But I'll pray for you. For your eyes to open and see. I went through all of my doubts and faced my unbelief to the point where I tore a bible..... but then I read the Bible "for myself" from page one.
Instead of listening to others catch phrases talking points and repetitive sermons. Instead of saying," well my grandmother goes to church every Sunday all her life and the pastor says,".
Blah blah blah
Misleading the multitude away from yes Yesuah...
Jesus the Mischa
@@jacobchristian6429
Joshua /yehoshua was a mortal man he saved the people in the wilderness not their souls LOL read the book of Joshua
This is one of the best videos I've seen in awhile, not that I agree or disagree, just good information....food for thought with outstandibg references. Thank You!
You don't get to agree or disagree with information someone finds. It is INFORMATION. You live in the new world where YOU think that YOU can decide what information you think is suitable for your delicate brain. YOU are part of the problem.
@@Onemore59 it's called judgment......hmmmm wonder if that word can be found in the scrolls. Peace
@@Onemore59 Jeff, did you remove your post? Yes, we can judge information as we see fit....of course! We should examine and judge! The information should follow scripture and if it doesn't we can listen and analyze for ourself, tell me you believe everything these folks say? Peace!
I am so glad that I found you in the last couple of days. I have been binging on Dr. Michael S Heiser for a few months and it has been transformative. Also, thank you for your work on the apostle Paul, Paul’s gospel. I don’t know how New Testament writings can speak about alcohol in light of Jewish traditions. it seems that so many Christian RUclipsrs get twisted up like pretzels over so many issues as a result of Paul.
This was a fantastic presentation full of useful information and beautifully presented. Thank you
Would love to see a discussion between Professor Tabor and The God Culture RUclips Channel about Dead Sea Scrolls.
Thank you.
1993 was a good year for us restoring Sanctuary Service in Jerusalem and Waco.
4:14 I have that too. I was actually disappointed that there was no new information in it. I am very glad I found this. I didn't know that book existed, I didn't think there was a translation available. Thank you for sharing your work 👍
@M H praise the lord
@M H So does that mean the New Testament should be tossed out , or at least viewed under heavy skepticism ... and we need to add their writings reforming the bible (word of God) ?
Since clearly the NT seems to have a pacifist view towards iniquity compared , which one can get the view it is Romes adoption of the "Sons of Light" views ... but flipped. Or maybe just what people then came up with , because being angry and exclusionary with Rome and it's rule was to exhausting and ultimately proved fatal . So I guess a concept of ... If you can't beat them , then join them ... which did lead to christian concepts then taking over. Albeit with the conundrum of ... is it still pure , and how much does that purity really matter ?
IDK ... just some obvious questions that come to my mind if in fact Jesus was their teacher of righteousness.
@M H Are you sure that is what is being shown here? Because I am very confused at what he is trying to say. My faith has been severely shaken. I don't feel like I am up for the taks to figure all this out. I don't think I am smart enough to do it. Can you tell me what you are seeing that I seem to be missing here?
@@TCgirl I have not done a deep study on this teacher of righteousness. But I've been in your shoes of struggling with faith when doing all of this research. But I've learned that the biggest issue is Paul and his false gospel. The folks at Qumran were definitely connected to John and Jesus. I understand that doing all of this research is rough. But if I can help answer your questions, I'll try. So ask away.
@@MinisterRedPill are you a believer in Yahowsha or however you say his name? I the guy doing this video a believer or is he trying to prove its all just made up nonsense?
Raised Roman Catholic with High Mass in Latin daily, that blatant programming became obvious to me when I was forced to "confess sins" I had to make up bc I had nothing to confess as a child. God bless their pointed heads... I've found my God and that pure energy is embodied in everything, and not just one human. Now I go to any church or service I want to bc they all eventually lead their followers to their salvation...its ALL THE SAME.
Phenomenal video. Spent the first 30 years of my life studying this stuff as a devout believer. Was also a long time subscriber to BAR. Been an atheist the last 20 but still find this subject endlessly fascinating. It's the study of our cultural history, very important to understand where we came from and how we got here culturally.
You must not have really known or understood God if you went from that to atheist. How sad that it. You know when this happens, it’s not GOD who is the one who failed… I really try to not be actively mean or rude. But it is a particular trigger for me to hear such rubbish. After all Jesus has done for me, and the miracles He has done for others I know, it’s like a slap in the face to all believers.
I wouldve never guessed that the Dead Sea Isaiah Scroll read differently than both the Greek Text AND the Samaritan Pentateuch. Im curious as to what the discrepancies are between it and the Samaritan text.
Basically masoretic Hebrew text.
Only 10 percent of Dead Sea scrolls are written in Aramaic.
Only 10 percent or less are written in koine Greek.
For most of its history they have been under control of Roman Catholic and Vatican connected gate keepers.
Are they 100 bc or are they John the Baptist? 30 AD to final hiding from Vespasian and Titus 68 AD?
Was the synagogue language and Jewish Judea daily spoken vernacular actually Greek? With some Hebrew and almost no Aramaic like the new theory.
And the pre Babylonian Talmud text was a Hebrew Masoretic that contained basically the Septuagint additional readings? With the current Orthodox Jewish Masoretic text conspiratorially modified from the Septuagint readings after Titus and Bar Kobcha as the new theory states.
Genesis 11: 12 And Arphaxad lived a hundred thirty five years, and he procreated Cainan. From the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and the Samaritan Pentateuch. While the KJV says Arphaxad was only 35 when he begot Cainan, and lops 100 years off the rest of the post flood generation. I would like to know where the Dead Sea Scrolls put these figures, as I believe the Masoretic text was changed deliberately to shorten those days after the flood.
After watching this and reading many of the comments, one thing is certain. Religion as it pertains to the DSS is as decisive as ever. Be that as it may, thank you Dr Tabor for your efforts. This is a great vid.
It is meant to be that way. It separates those who are children of God from those who reject that just as Jesus Christ said it would be over 2000 years ago.
Do you mean divisive?
@@younggrasshopper3531 Yes, damn autofill. Thx
Eventually, everyone will know the truth
@@fredziffle5219 I appreciate your faith in Me. When I Am ready I will reveal Myself to them.
TY for the video. May we be found worthy and striving to figure it all out at the coming of our King.
The variations in the book of Isaiah and in other books of the Torah should not be surprising. Originally the teachings were passed verbally from generation to generation. It is normal that when the authors had to put these teachings in writing different individuals may have used different words or phrases.
I stumbled upon your RUclips podcast and found you amazingly interesting. Thank you!
Dude YOU SOLVED IT FOR ME !!
I read that Bible code in the 90s when I was a True Believer.. I was also into Math and Fibonnaci sequences etc...
I wanted to believe in the Noble Code because that would be FACT ENOUGH for me...
Anyway something didn't quite sit right with me then because I knew just how easy it was to manipulate "unseen" variables !! But i still liked the whole idea 💡
AFTER 25 YEARS I NOW KNOW ... They just used whatever version that fit the math best 👌 👍 😍
So does that mean you no longer believe in Yeshua or Jesus? What do you believe now? I'm so confused with all the information. I miss Jesus.
@@TCgirlDont worry about it, Jesus says none of this matters if you accept him into your heart
Even if God exists, he need not behave like a human to favour believers and show displeasure over non believers, regardless of their righteousness. Can a good CEO be displeased with you and disregard your talents just because you do not know his name?
If God only favour believers regardless of their righteousness, then he needs to have an egoistic and nepotic character like worldly tyrants and corrupt politicians.
The idea that one can go heaven without cultivating himself to higher spiritual standard is as silly as cramming unrefined squatters into premium residential estate and still expect it to remain a premium property.
Anyone claiming their religion is the only true religion needs to first prove that only their believers were continuously blessed by God since antiquity. Cheers.
Modern research on Near Death Experience by Raymond moody, reincarnation memories by Ian Stevenson/Jim trucker and past lives regression by Brian Weiss all independently but coincidentally show that our consciousness survive death, we live many lives and our thoughts and actions matter in the hereafter.
So be kind and helpful to others, be virtuous, meditate and cultivate ourselves to higher spiritual levels. Cheers.
Religious cults. Members making up nonsense justifications for being in them.
not 2 messiah's, but 2 figures in 1 messiah, like father/son
ie. John 14:10
Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me? The words I say to you, I do not speak on My own. Instead, it is the Father dwelling in Me, performing His works.
I believe the suffering servant is referring to all the Jewish people and how we must endure the suffering inflicted upon us by our fellow men and women, for the sake of following the Torah and Hashem. As a nation of priests, that is our job.
Talpiot tomb: "If I'm being given a new suit why would I wear my old clothes" (Tabor). I really liked that statement. Thanks
Why do I like it? What it means?
Thank You for this Video. First time I have seen your Extensive work.. I have studied some Greek but not Hebrew. Being 86and a Christian all my life, I find your work very interesting & inspiring. GOD’S Blessings to you.🙏😃🙏
I could help with Hebrew. I am using Hebrew NT . It is fascinating.
I love the information you’re giving us. Appreciate you very much
Ditto
So very important and interesting subject, and it's surprising implications for us Believers.
I am tending to see merit in these interpretations and understanding of all that is being said.
As an Orthodox Christian, I find it hard to understand how anyone can be bothered by the discovery new variant textual traditions. Each new discovery of a text tradition gives us one more witness to the autographs. That's exciting, not disturbing.
10:36 "The 10 Words" , correct. It's not the ten laws.... it's also called "Testimony." So regardless of any variant, I think it's key to understand that the written testimony of God is different than the laws that Moses rights based on the ten commandments, and that transition from one to the the happens in Exodus 34.
Absolutely great information. Could you please post the names of the books and authors as well please they are hard to see with the glare 🙂🙏🕊💞
Could you please list these books in the comment section? Thank you !
Was the wine spilling a recent event or did it happen way back in the community that used the text?
Great content. I plan on ordering some of the recommended books. RIP Dr. M. Heiser.
I'm a believer, but I think I'll subscribe anyway because I find the Dead Sea Scrolls topic fascinating:-)
Gracias doctor, vivimos en tiempos en que los conocimientos bíblicos son mas difíciles de entender y contextualizar, muy substanciosa su plática y estoy haciendo un resumen. Soy estudiante de idiomas antiguos y del traslado de las ideas bíblicas a dichos idiomas, aun en uso.
Hola soy yo mismo 11Q13 Melchizedek...
This makes sense the Saul / Paul saw Christianity as another dead Messiah cult and went after the church. This is why Paul made such a huge impact as he was a skeptics of Christianity until he said he meet the risen Christ. Paul said what he did he did out of ignorance believing he was doing God's will.
God not only prepared the Jews to accept Jesus Christ but also the gentiles. All the other "messiahs" made no impact on the Roman Empire.
June 30, 1604, King James had approved a list of 54 revisers, although extant records show that 47 scholars actually participated. They were organized into six companies, two each working separately at Westminster, Oxford, and Cambridge on sections of the Bible assigned to them. The Bible was finally published in 1611. The Dead Sea Scrolls sat, undisturbed until discovered.
And as a king, he wanted the new Bible to confirm that power travels from the top down, and that people should be glad to serve those above them.
@@garywheeler7039 And James also had a thing about “witches” so he had them included in the banned groups (replacing the original spiritualists and poisoners in the Hebrew text).
I suppose the original text, compiled in 382 in Rome, is...invalid? Even though for 12 centuries that was The Bible?
The KJV is just another translation. There are numerous problems with it ( such as translating 'I am A Son of God' as 'I am THE Son of God' Matthew 27:43) and although for some reason millions think the English translation in 1611 is somehow "authorized", it is anything but.
@@timothyblazer1749most English bibles have The non have A
It is authorised by King James! The reigning monarch commissioned it.
The British were willing to protest Rome even unto martyrdom to translate the Hebrew Scriptures into English for all people.
Taking away illegitimate power from a non New Covenant priesthood (1 Tim 4 v 1-4).
I'm agnostic but I find the dead sea scrolls to be such a fascinating topic.
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this. It’s really helpful to get a balanced perspective on this.
Thank you for this information Dr. Tabor!!! I have heard you speak as a guest, but never looked at your site. I'm just fascinated with the information you provide. I am a follower of The Way, repenting and returning to the first works (Rev. 2:5), including honouring His Shabbaths and feasts, and your knowledge of the Dead Sea Scrolls is truly opening my eyes further! Thank you so much!!!
I’m listening to your book The Jesus Dynasty. It’s excellent. I hope your other books get translated into Audible books too. They are so interesting I don’t notice how tired I am when on my bike!
Really enjoy your talks. Thanks for your Insight
These videos are really worth watching!
James do you know Dr Ken Johnson?
Discovering the profound teachings of the Bible has been a revelation, especially when I reflect on the unfolding events in the world. The alignment with ancient prophecies is striking, highlighting the divine wisdom embedded in the scriptures. My love for the word of God deepens as I navigate through the challenges, realizing the need for His presence in my life. Thank you, Father, for your boundless love and mercy. AMEN AMEN AMEN 📖🌏🙌
I remember seeing you on Zola Levitt presents talking about the scrolls that were just released great program
Gosh there is a blast from the past. I haven’t heard his name in a decade.
If the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest extent of the Hebrew Text what do you have to compare it to?
are ANY...any at all...any of the commenters below going to comment on the fact that the Dead Sea Scrolls DO DIFFER than what "your " bible says??? uh, this sounds like that is kind of important. This is why although I respect the bible and revere it a bit, IT IS NOT THE INFALLIBLE, total inspired Word of God. Amen?
Terrific talk, James. I learned a lot. Thank you!
How accurate are the Dead Sea scrolls to the Bible?
The Masoretic manuscripts among the Dead Sea Scrolls are astonishingly similar to the standard Hebrew texts 1,000 years later, proving that Jewish scribes were accurate in preserving and transmitting the Masoretic Scriptures.
The BIGGEST problem is that the things that are lost in translation are beyond our comprehension and I believe are the key elements to understand the truth of our past.
So, go learn Hebrew...the language of the Torah 3460 years ago is the language we teach our 3 (three) year old children since Abraham 3750 years ago. "We NEVER Lost It"
@@RasMajnouni 100% guarantee there has been true meanings lost in translation over the centuries- even if it’s ‘the same language’
@@RasMajnouni if this was something either of us could prove beyond a reasonable doubt - we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
@@chexterkat I could easily PROVE what I said, but those of us who have learned the SAME Torah ever since it was Given and revealed by The Infinite One G-d 3460 years ago as a GIFT to humanity don't have that problem. IF (for example) my favourite author was the American John Steinbeck, and I had been reading him for 60 years in Hebrew, and YOU mentioned to me: "How do you understand this passage in "East of Eden"? And I relate to you what i read in HEBREW, and you said "I think you haven' read the essence of his message in TRANSLATION...."I wrote down 3 words, one is a 2 letter word in Hebrew that is in 6700 VERSES, one a 3 letter word found in many verses...okay: the word is אמת , which is always MIStranslated to be the word "Truth"...but that is the simple meaning. The first letter of "EMeT" (truth) is the first leter of the first ever Aleph-Bet (Hebrew) It is the language that G-d used to CREATE the Universes. The middle letter is the MIDDLE of the Aleph bet and the last letter is the LAST letter in the hebrew Aleph Bet....now, does that detract from the word "truth"? Of course, look up how many OTHER English words are there for "Truth". Worse: today people say "Well this is MY Truth". How can their be a "My" truth. True is true and in Hebrew there is ONE word. The Infinite NAME of G-d (HE revealled it) is 4 letters. Each letter stands for a word written by each letter. YWEH means "{G-D} Always was, {G-d} Always IS, and {G-d} Always Will Be, but in Holy Hebrew (G-d's Building Bl ocks of truth) It has deeper conotations, we understand the CREATION from that word, we notice how each letter in Hebrew is in DIRECTION, how it is written we see that the first letter is a seminal flash of Infinite Light which comes down into physicality and BROADENS and then the next letter is like a ladder that from the broadening of Creation (The Big Bang) it goes from broadening the cosmos into a downward level further and further until Spirit becomes physical. Light, stars moons Earth, galaxies and further down into Mineral Kingdom, Plant, Animal,Human.......souls in bodies...This is not even the TIP of the hidden iceberg...look, you can search any subject you want here:www.chabad.org/search/results.asp?searchWord=aleph+bes+building+blocks#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=aleph%20bes%20building%20blocks&gsc.page=1, /BETTER here:ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=rabbi+manis+friedman&sp=CAM%253D
@@RasMajnouni you’re doing it again, I’ve gone through this circular argument countless times - you simply cannot quote the Bible as a source of evidence or proof for anything related to the Bible. You do NOT have access to the absolute earliest versions of the Bible or Quran or any of them. It’s like the telephone game - it’s been written and rewritten countless times. They’re not the same and you cannot prove that they are.
John the immerser was 6 months older than Yeshua. When Herod gave the decree to kill all the boys 2 years old and under, John would have been under that decree. Yah had already warned Joseph to take Yeshua and flee to Egypt. John was most likely hidden in Qumran, in the wilderness. Yeshua talks about Zechariah being killed at the temple altar. Josephus also mentioned the priest who was killed because he would not give up his son. People knew John had a miraculous birth, Zechariah could not speak until John was named. They probably figured John was the child they were looking for. They killed Zechariah, John's father. Most likely they did the same with Elizabeth as his mother was not mentioned again. John remained in Qumran and that is most likely where he came from in the wilderness.
Where could I find more information on this
@@r.m.7743 most of it is in Josephus, but I don't know which book. He talks about Zechariah the priest being killed in the temple. The baby boys being killed, 2 years old and under, is in the Bible. It's a situation of piecing the story together. Also, look up information on how the Essenes lived. They would allow orphan children to stay in their community and learn to work for the priests who lived there.
This is very interesting. I am joining this thread so as to be notified of any further comments
Very helpful. Thank dear
Not Yeshua but Yahusha! Yeshua is the Amaraic word for anointed, but not anointed by a specify being! Yahusha on the other hand has his Father's name Yah as the first syllable of his name.
I believe "Miles" in the movie "Sideways" was the broken, Vav (Numbers 25:12) because I believe Numbers 25:11 was read at the end of the movie
See Strongs #2511 (to smooth, divide)
The Dead Sea Scrolls are a collection of Hebrew writing.
Hebrews wrote down the details of their lives and beliefs and hid them in caves during the Roman invasion.
For those who are searching, they offer hope for answers to the unanswered questions of who am I, how did I get here and where did I come from.
This was an excellent video. A lot of good information and it's inspired me to dig even deeper when I have time. I was especially intrigued about the two messiah's, I've read about that belief before so it was fascinating hearing it from the dead sea scrolls
Only one messiah
On replay 👍🏽
I’ve been debating even bothering to get into the Dead Sea Scrolls…. sincerely seeking the truth but I don’t want to incorporate lying, faked garbage if that is the case.
Have you read/researched the Dead Sea scrolls?
I don’t mean to be indifferent to the two Massiahs thinking. Although if we can put our mind back to that Period of time.. we might see a large amount of anxiety. By that time, in Fear, they would be Grasping for something good. Which could have been two or more scenarios. At a time when several Religions may have been Practiced. Different God for different situations. Pagan Religions had several god’s they expect to save them from various types of problems. So two Messiahs would not be out of the way for a Prophet or Scribes to Record. Just a thought.😃🙏
@@masonwright7700Paul. Absolutely
Motivated by this video I've purchased a copy of the DSS Bible. There is an aspect of the bible that I'm a bit confused about and that's how the words translated to English are shown as fragmented, IE 'fac[e of the dee]p'. Since the language of the fragments is Hebrew, or Aramaic , translation to English is typically done on a 'word by word' basis, or done by phrasing the meaning of passages. This confuses me a little because in the first instance in my sample, 'fac' is considered to be intact, and 'e' is added because it's missing, and also 'dee' is missing, where 'p' is added. I know of no translation to English from any language that is a letter for letter translation, so what am I to understand? That the first three letters of the Hebrew were in tact and the following letter or letters are missing?
Not having the DSS in the orignal language as well as not knowing how to read it, I can't really look for myself.
If anyone can offer some insight I would appreciate it.
Probably because of holes in the manuscripts. In the gospel of Judas translations was the same problem.
@@ioneltorac I assumed it was due to missing letters in the Aramaic, Hebrew. However how would those missing letters in another language actually equate to showing missing letters in the English translation, and interestingly enough they tend to be at the beginning or end of the English words as I'm reading them?
In translation it's never a 'letter by letter' translation of the words, but rather the meaning of the word instead, and as such this brought about my question. It cannot be a precise transition, so my best guess not knowing any different is that it's representative of the original language word having it's beginning or it's end missing so maybe the publishers represented this by clipping off the beginning or end of the English words.
very interesting and enlightening teaching ! Thank you Doctor Tabor ! This is exciting stuff fir us non Scholars !
Goodmorning Dr Tabor, I am from SA...how grateful I am today to open your site and see that my wish came true by seeing the deathsea-scroll Bible in front of my eyes... I always wanted to have the Truth of Father Almighty and His Son by having the writings out of the deathsea scrolls.... is there a way to contact you personally....forgive my Englisch, I am German, but think my writing is understandable.....regards out of a bittery cold town in SA...
I have known this for years especially since about the first year I was with saved and nobody has ever found the text before it needs to put it out in the original text
The LXX and the Masoretic texts each present a Patriarchal period from Adam to Abraham that differs by well over one thousand years, with the LXX showing the longer of the two. Does Genesis in the DSS agree with either of them?
It is perhaps interesting to note that whenever Jesus quoted the Scriptures, he mostly used the LXX.
While this may sound weird, the Septuagint was the dominant version of the Jewish Bible in circulation in the 1st century. Remember, most literate Jews in this era either lived in the greater Roman Empire (which spoke Greek) or were educated in Greek schools and had Greek names even if they lived in Israel. In fact, the very Sadducees who controlled the Temple and were considered the preeminent teachers of the Bible and many of the Pharisees (like Josephus himself) were either promoting Greek or were primarily speaking Greek themselves. The writers of the gospels were writing to actual Greeks and Hellenized Jews, so of course they would have transcribed Jesus' quotes in the form their audiences would have been familiar with, and that's the Septuagint.
Also, the Masoretic text didn't exist yet.
@@andrewsuryali8540 everything you said is lies. Josephus proved that Jews didn't really know Greek. How is someone 2000 years removed from that period going to tell us what took place? Jesus didn't quote the LXX. The LXX was corrupted to conform to the midrash interpretations in the NT.
The Jews read from scrolls when in the temple. Jesus read from scrolls. Not a LXX or Masoretic.
40:35 what book is that?
Is it Scrolls from Qumrân cave I?
Very informative and interesting. Thank you for sharing 🙏
"AMAZING,"
very educational, +.
I've never heard of Mr, DR, PROFESSOR Tabor.
I "shall" = [future tense]
I shall be back to receive more EXCELLENT, EXUBERATING, KNOWLEDGE, +.
God bless the memory of all the people who gave their lives to bring us God's word 🙏
I've read lots of different Bibles. They all say about the same thing.
Dr. Tabor, I have the Dead Sea Scrolls The Oldest Known Bible Translated for the First Time into English by Abegg, Flint, and Ulrich... I am enjoying it to some degree, however, it does not include the Apocalypse Scroll???, Community Scroll, etc. Is there any book you can recommend with all the texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
If you haven’t found it by now, try finding the book called “the other Bible”
It’s a compilation of a bunch of apocryphal texts and pseudepigraphal texts
Awesome discussion. Love all your videos. I wonder what was in those other jars in that cave.
I think the graves at Qumran are buried in a special pattern. Maybe you can find some time to study the positions a little bit more. It looks like some of the graves block entrances and exits. It's clearly evident that there is a specific pattern of some sort. Don't think the placing of each grave was random.
never heard the location of the graves of Qumran is significant but love the new topic to research. Do you know where you learned of this? Do you know which time frame the graves are from, like from the Roman siege? thanks
Answer the question, please, sir...
(Messaging this bc it's been a few weeks, and my guess is you missed the other person's comment 🙃)
Mr. Tabor as a layman with a keen interest in early christianity and ancient history I absolutely love your content and way of explaining! Zero dogma, just the facts, presenting dissenting opinions, and clarity of expression. I appreciate you!
You inspired me to read Isaiah 53 from the Dead Sea Scrolls. When I do that, the few differences actually do add to the Messianic interpretation. For the Malachi change to plural, makes perfect sense. It is talking about who can endure the message delivered by John The Baptist and JESUS - they are the only two on the planet at that time (in the future) who have the same message. John's message is all about JESUS. JESUS'S Message is all about JESUS. The DSC version is more Messianic again than the traditional, because in the very next verse it goes right into mentioning only JESUS, which is The Way GOD Wanted It To Be.
Regarding the Elohim stuff around 40 minutes.. I was reading this at the same time and found it connected An eternal bond has been established for us.
Ashshur has established (it) for us,
and all the divine beings
and the majority of the group of all the holy ones,
through the bond of heaven and earth for ever, ...[18]
However, Cross (1973, p. 17) translated the text as follows:
The Eternal One ('Olam) has made a covenant oath with us,
Asherah has made (a pact) with us.
And all the sons of El,
And the great council of all the Holy Ones.
With oaths of Heaven and Ancient Earth. NOTE Asherah, along with Astarte and Anath, was one of the three great goddesses of the Canaanite pantheon. In Canaanite religion her primary role was that of mother goddess. Canaanites associated Asherah with sacred trees, an association also found in the Israelite tradition. Israel’s association of Asherah with sacred trees is repeated over thirty times in the Bible; many of these citations are stereotypically used by the biblical writers to describe sites of idolatrous worship, implying that the worship of Asherah was an apostate behavior in Israel and improper for followers of YHWH. Despite these and other references associating Asherah with apostasy, contemporary discoveries have further indicated that, at least in the opinion of some ancient Israelites, YHWH and Asherah were appropriately worshipped as a pair. This might be more striking for hardcore bible is perfect people Why was Asherah removed from the Bible?
Asherah as a tree symbol was even said to have been "chopped down and burned outside the Temple in acts of certain rulers who were trying to 'purify' the cult, and focus on the worship of a single male god, Yahweh," SO it is important to understand that the books of the bible were written as a chronology not at one time.. and that the religion and practices changed so references in older parts of the bible may not corespond to newer parts of the bible including the worship of a pantheon instead of monotheistic god. Deuteronomy 16:21 commands: You shall not plant any tree as a sacred pole [asherah] beside the altar that you make for the Lord your God… And 1 Kings 14:23 states: For they also built for themselves high places, pillars, and sacred poles [asherim] on every high hill and under every green tree… This was however after the Babylonian exile. The ancient Israelites worshipped Canaanite gods because they themselves were actually an offshoot of the coastal Canaanites ... in fact there was quite a mixing of gods and god names worshiping the same protosemetic religion that links with other identities but where language differed worshiped under different words with slight cultural differentiation. Overtime however the way in which God was viewed changed, and was edited and modified to suit the cultural beliefs of the groups that were acculturing that god and their understanding of the language and past cultures meanings. Humans are not beyond time we live in time, and so the development of religion has developed with time for whatever reason. El
Children Anat Ashtar Baal Mannu-ki-ili Mot Shahar Shalim Shapash Yam (Ugarit religions) Athtart? Dagon? Hadad? Helel 70 Sons in Total
Equivalents
Greek equivalent Cronus, Zeus
Mesopotamian equivalent Anu or Enlil
7 more row
Hypostasis of the Archons is worth a read. Easily found online.
A. Are the scrolls in Hebrew or Aramaic? I can read Hebrew but when Daniel turns to Aramaic I can read it but I'm lost for most b part. But I'd like an inter linear version. I've always said the Samaritans and us Jews are "Hebrews". And it's time to bury the hatchet over the differences.
Im a "reform Jew" and I like how he handles the different variations issue!
Sounds like the Dead Sea scrolls was more polytheistic than monotheistic, yet they proclaim that the scrolls was the part of the bible, when they took very important parts out that highlighted the polytheism.
I wish someone would put the LXX in a regular bible format. Your choice now is a very large book or a book with tiny print that is still large. Love the information!
Like a personal size large print
Sorry but what does LXX means? Acronym for what?
@@rakelscada5576 Septuagint translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into the Greek language 200 years or so before Jesus was born. They have it in English. It’s most likely what the apostles and Jesus used.
LXX is the Latin numerals for 70 (50+10+10). 70 Scribes wrote down the text, each independent of the others. The collective results of their labours are known as the Septuagint (70) @@rakelscada5576 That's it in a nutshell and you will find much more information online. :)
Hello Professor,. are either of the books you introduce & recommend at the beginning of your video or any other books you use in your lectures endorsed by Professor Robert Eisenman? I've read several of his books. They are very comprehensive and I consider them to be outstanding.
Thanks for your contributions as well. I'm brand new to your channel.
I'd be very interested in your point of view regarding the popular theory held by most Orthodox Rabbinic Jews that Enoch that comes down to us today are not Holy books at all but are in fact forgeries. In fact, the parts of Enoch that I have read are highly Christological which along with mainstream Judaism I am convinced supports the completely false and highly plagiarized and misappropriated religion of Christianity.
Do you think the book of enoch from dss is fake?
@@lissaa7819 up until the finding of (the fragments, mind you) Enoch in the DSS, it has been widely believed the the Books of Enoch were forgeries. Now they can make comparisons with the Ethiopic because they, theoretically at least, would be more reliable.
@@bobbycottonwood000 Wow!!!!
Jesus simply is the only way to God our Father..
All the Bible in hundreds of examples proves Jesus is JHWH they are one. Only God alone Father Is our Savior. God alone our Rock.. yet clearly Paul tells us Jesus is that Rock .. which OT clearly spells out Jehovah.
Jesus is only way brother..the narrow door.
See Jewish girl visit to heaven , she met Jesus , H e is who he says He is . NDE
I use the ethiopian bible. Its way different from the "standard" version.
there is no ethiopian bible it's translated copy by christian arabs when they started missionaries there
@@messianic_scam i guess i should just throw mine away then.
Grow up and get past the lies and dogma of the crap they have been feeding you
you stupeed ngro it was translated copy by the christian arabs in geez
@@messianic_scam it's in Geez
SMH
I think it's clear that the "messenger" is John the Baptist who was a Temple priest by birth , The son's of Zadok. Still just one Messiah who showed himself resurrected to more than 500 people.
Thank you very much for this interesting video! Reading different versions of the bible makes us stronger in the Word of God. When i begun to read the bible, I did 'nt umderstand most of it, but after many years of reseaches and prayers, GOD gave me the holy gift of his SECRET by the HOLY SPIRIT, so the Word became a new understanding very very different than intellectual meaning.I hope you will have this mighty gift because God could use you in another way that you cannot imagine.God bless you by His SPIRIT above all spirits!
True, I have read the KJ, NASV, NIV, but it was in the MSG reading the major and minor Prophets that the return of Jesus leaps out at the reader in so many places.
The law came through Moses, but GRACE & TRUTH came through Christ Jesus. John 1. Jesus could NOT SIN because He is God.
I thought he was the son of God.
Or, God's only begotten son.
@@rosssmith8481 read John 14. Father, Son, Spirit are ONE.
Actually grace and truth came through Moses, Jesus would rebuke you. Nothing you said here is truth.
Actually grace has been on the table since the beginning before Moses, and correct Christ is the only God we have known. He is the one that gave Moses the law from his father:
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them. But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
Genesis 6:7-8 KJV
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; and did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. But with many of them God was not well pleased: for they were overthrown in the wilderness.
1 Corinthians 10:1, 4-5 KJV
But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me. And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
John 5:36-37 KJV
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: but made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: and being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
Philippians 2:5-8 KJV
For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, But a body hast thou prepared me: In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure. Then said I, Lo, I come (In the volume of the book it is written of me,) To do thy will, O God.
Hebrews 10:4-7 KJV
Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
John 8:56-58 KJV
And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.
Exodus 3:14 KJV
For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Malachi 3:6 KJV
Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
Hebrews 13:8 KJV
He is the Rock, his work is perfect: For all his ways are judgment: A God of truth and without iniquity, Just and right is he.
Deuteronomy 32:4 KJV
Merriam Webster:
grace noun
\ ˈgrās \
Definition of grace (Entry 1 of 2)
1a: unmerited divine assistance given to humans for their regeneration or sanctification
b: a virtue coming from God
c: a state of sanctification enjoyed through divine assistance
2a: APPROVAL, FAVOR
stayed in his good graces
barchaic : MERCY, PARDON
c: a special favor : PRIVILEGE
each in his place, by right, not grace, shall rule his heritage
- Rudyard Kipling
d: disposition to or an act or instance of kindness, courtesy, or clemency
e: a temporary exemption : REPRIEVE
Peace and Blessings in Jesus Mighty Name 🙌🏿
@@TommyStahr
You mean a trinity?
The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god.
Sumeria
"The universe was divided into three regions each of which became the domain of a god. Anu's share was the sky. The earth was given to Enlil. Ea became the ruler of the waters. Together they constituted the triad of the Great Gods"
India
The three gods, Brahma, Vishnu, and Siva [or Shiva], becoming manifest to him, replied, 'Learn, O devotee, that there is no real distinction between us.
Egypt
"The Hymn to Amun decreed that 'No god came into being before him (Amun)' and that 'All gods are three: Amun, Re and Ptah, and there is no second to them. Hidden is his name as Amon, he is Re in face, and his body is Ptah.' . . . This is a statement of trinity, the three chief gods of Egypt subsumed into one of them, Amon.
Many other areas had their own divine trinities. In Greece they were Zeus, Poseidon and Adonis. The Phoenicians worshipped Ulomus, Ulosuros and Eliun. Rome worshipped Jupiter, Neptune and Pluto. In Germanic nations they were called Wodan, Thor and Fricco. Regarding the Celts, one source states, "The ancient heathen deities of the pagan Irish[,] Criosan, Biosena, and Seeva, or Sheeva, are doubtless the Creeshna [Krishna], Veeshnu [Vishnu], [or the all-inclusive] Brahma, and Seeva [Shiva], of the Hindoos" (Thomas Maurice, The History of Hindostan, Vol. 2, 1798, p. 171).
Christianity picked up on the trinity in the third century after much debate at the council of Nicea. Since people were used to to Trinities is was easier to convert the Roman Empire.
Why do you think Jubilees and Enoch was brought to the surface? The Zadok Priest knew what they were doing when they hid those prescious scrolls. Because the Pharhsees wanted them to stay hidden because it would expose them as hypercrtites and liers who wanted to create their own religion. That's why Jesus kept rebuking them. He knew that the temple was infiltrated with strangers after the 12 Tribes were exiled♥️🙏
Interesting 🤔 concept!
@@gabrielleangelica1977 2 Kings 17:23 through 26
2 Kings 17:30
The twelve tribes were present in Judea, Samaria and Galilee at that moment. And they are still present in the DNA of modern jewish populations and also levantine populations like Druze, Palestinians, Lebanese people.
Pharisees were not strangers, they were genetically descendants of the israelites
If you we’re going to hide text from enemies, would you hide them near to where you live, far from there or somewhere in between?
B"H
It is not Chapter 53 in Yishayahu which should be our consideration overmuch, but Chapters 52 and 54, in which the Messianic vision is described in the Feminine. See also Micha 4. Mashiach is a *Feminine Collective* term. I'll prove that in the Hebrew below with HaShem's Help.
ב"ה
משיח = 358 = בכל אשה
I love seeing and hearing these adoptions that some of us were waiting to be found for a very long time. As a child I knew things that were against what had always been known. I knew these things unlike we know the alphabet or how to add and subtract, but I knew like how I knew when to breathe. I do hope people give up the race one day. What happens at the end of a race?