How the Dead Sea Scrolls "Bible" Differs from the Traditional Hebrew Text
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 13 мар 2022
- Of course, we know there is no "DSS Bible" per se, but 40% of the scrolls are from Hebrew Bible texts--but they have significantly different readings, some of which agree with the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and the Samaritan Pentateuch. In this recent on-line presentation Dr. Tabor offers an overview of the topic and introduces resources for further study.
One major point, that most sources have missed, is that representations of the book of Esther--previously thought to be missing from the Scrolls, has now been identified--don't take this Purim find too seriously, but enjoy the read: www.thetorah.com/article/newl...
For more on this topic with lots of free and downloadable materials, see Dr. Tabor's blog: james tabor.com.
Just do a search for any topic that interests you. Also please subscribe to the blog--emails secure and never shared--and also subscribe to this RUclips channel.
On Purim we read the Megillah of Esther. We also drink wine to the point we cannot distinguish between "blessed is Mordechai" and "cursed is Hamman." Thus it is fitting that the fragment from the book of Esther had wine spilled all over it. Evidently the Essenes really got into the spirit of Purim.
This was actually an April Fool's joke! No such scroll exists.
Abegg DDS Bible is essential .. good recommendation.
I thought the essenes were teatotallers though?
@MZT See the original post and I hope you can figure out by the early paragraphs it is totally "tongue in cheek." Many missed that...and "April Fool" joke is a designation meaning one takes something serious, even nearly believable and plays with the hearer. www.thetorah.com/article/newly-deciphered-qumran-scroll-revealed-to-be-megillat-esther
@MZT still funny
I, accidentally, found you on Utube and have been fascinated with your knowledge and presentations.
I’m a 73 year old Jewish man who is probably defined as almost agnostic but the feelings of the Judeo Christian are so strong in my life.
I find you to be very moving and inspiring. You have rekindled in me something that I have been looking for, for many years.
Hello Stephan, I am curious to hear more about what you are saying here. What exactly do you mean that the Judeo Christian feelings are so strong in your life? And what are you getting from this video. I am so shaken by all the searching I have done and have only today come to this video. I am not sure what he is teaching and what I am to believe anymore. I was raised in a conservative Christian church and walked away from it a few years ago when they couldn't give me real answers to my questions. I do know that I miss believing in Jesus. I wanted him to be real but now I am just not sure. I would appreciate your elaboration on what you know or have learned?
Almost agnostic means “secular”. in the true sense, meaning you look at things sort of like the Sadducees. or like those Jews who had a platonic view of God?
@@johnschuh8616
Thank you for your interest.
I watch you tube all day. I don’t remember what the original video was.
If you please show me the original, I would greatly appreciate it.
@@stephenafromowitz8362 you're the man, Stephen. God bless.
The search for Truth is a lifelong pursuit, and there are many serpents trying to deceive you all along the Way. Jesus was Jewish too. His disciples were Jewish. God intended for His chosen people to bring Christ's Kingdom on earth, by teaching the Gospel to the whole world. That's how the Jews were intended to make the world a better place. It was by producing the Messiah, and spreading His divine Word. There's still plenty of work to do for Christ Jesus.
As a Christian, I find it refreshing to come across a truly non-biased conversation about the Dead Sea Scrolls. Excellent information!!Thank you for your work and your time. I appreciate the recommendations of the books too.
I mean the scrolls prove literary mimesis taken from the teacher in the scrolls, also hellenistic mimesis taken from Greek literature as Dr Denis Mcdonald points out, the true teaching of Jesus would have been a sayings gospel no narrative just jesus said jesus said etc
Not one word mentioned in Dead Sea scrolls about Jesus.
@@stevens8490 the DSS were written before Jesus of Nazareth was physically born. While it doesn’t say “Jesus” anywhere, it prophesies of the Messiah which Jesus was the fulfillment. They ALL expected the Messiah to come within the beginning of the first century A.D./C.E per biblical prophecies like the prophecy of Daniel which literally counted the years until His arrival.
Dr. Tabor has such a gentle and wise energy, I could pick this man’s brain for hours and enjoy every minute
Greetings friend. What was the Lxx's source for Psalm 14:3 (13:3 in Lxx), and what happens if said source actually postdates the Lxx? Blessings.
Thank you for this scholarly presentation. The stimulus for getting my Bachelor's degree in Comparative Religion from a secular university was because of my quest to learn as much as I could about the Bible, Christianity, and Judaism from an academic perspective rather than simply push the "I believe" button to accommodate a certain theology. I questioned how so many clergies from different denominations and even different churches within those denominations could have such a widely divergent theology when all claim to have the Bible as the foundation of their belief system. My answer came of course in seeing the Bible as a collection of texts written by ancient Jews for ancient Jews and not for modern Christians with little or no critical understanding of the Bible's origins, linguistics, and social and historical context. Professor Tabor, you do a great service to us all with your excellent presentation. I only regret that I did not find your channel sooner.
books also.
I can't work out how nonsecular degrees are given out in some countries. It's not academia. Glad you also did comparative religion, I did that for my post grad after Classic UG. Such an interesting topic isn't it?
@@somniumisdreaming I can’t work out how people that claim to be the arbiters of what is academia and what is not cannot figure out what God is…
What are you using to decide that something is or isn’t academia if not the one true God that is like a tree of knowledge of good and evil (Logic)?
What do you think used logical division to split order and chaos?
What do you think our study of logic observes and reckons with?
@@somniumisdreaming the is no knowledge that exists that did not come from the one true God.
The source of knowledge, proof, proper reasoning and all that is logical is the one true God, also studied as Logic.
Some people simply cannot understand the truth and the source of truth. They backslide into idolatry and worship mythological man-gods rather than the one true God that is Logic itself (the source of our study of Logic).
Dead sea scrolls give us a window on qumranian essenes, and we might be able to extrapolate something about the galillean essenes. It's not crazy to think they had plenty influence on the formation of early christianity. Many people will be surprised at how fluid the theology has been over time though. The more we learn about history, the weirder religion gets.🕯
S TFU
Bees monk ! What's up sausage, that's very bad language! You know it's people like you killing religion, people need to have an open mind, sensible debates and arguments, not to just tell people to shut up when something they don't like is mentioned!!!
@@kevingrass6812 sitting down and shutting up is most my religion,tbh
Here is The True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
Fluid is an understatement.
Ahh the 90s. What a great decade. Only I wasn't in the classroom. Great presentation. Thank you Mr Tabor.......
I have just found your channel and am utterly fascinated. Thank you for your scholarly research and explanations. I read VanderKam and Flint's Meaning of the Dead Sea Scrolls over a decade ago and became absolutely rapt with desire to learn about this subject. I find all biblical scholarship fascinating, but the fact we are reading scripture written about 3000-3200 years ago is incredible. Thank you to all of you who put these great works into the lay persons hands and a special Thank You to this channel for explaining the scrolls in lay terms. You are awesome sir, keep up the great work!
@Joe Luda, check out Prophecy Watchers there's more by Ken Johnson. God bless!!!
2,200
God rejected the Jews after they caused Jesus Christ to be crucified!
I agree because I remember in the 60’s the controversy was huge that my dad an agnostic discussed at our dinner table but who had control of those scrolls to prevent the scholars to study as archeological knowledge is important. I just seek knowledge with a constant open mind as closed minds stop growing.
Why isn’t “woman” above all as the “One” since the Greeks consulted the priestesses of Apollo as they received the information from the Gods to give to anyone that required advice from Zeus . Women have never been allowed equality of thoughts, power or leadership except during Greek civilization that women should always ask this question from the moment born.
Was very nice to hear from a member of the church speak to us about the Dead Sea Scowls. Thank you.
He’s not a member of the church 😂
I stumbled upon your RUclips podcast and found you amazingly interesting. Thank you!
Interpreting the Dead Sea Scrolls is a fascinating problem. I try to imagine how well we’d understand American culture if it were based on a single torn up newspaper.
Yah, a discarded newspaper section may be a snapshot of a specific point in time, but if the context is lost over time it is relegated to curiosities and mysteries until enough accumulate. Then, scholarly research can hopefully say they were newspaper clips and this is the date. Personally I believe what relegates ancient writings to a category of 'sacred or Holy' would be in preserving the sense of tomorrow will come and it will be better, so that people can hang in there in bad times.
Interesting confirmations here when comparing the Scrolls and other Texts. Language translation changes and biases account for most of the differences we have.
" Language translation changes and biases account for most of the differences we have". WOW. You really had to waste time and tell us that?!?!?! SHEESH. The sun is hot. Penguins are not delicious. YAH. THANKS BRO.
@@Onemore59
Ha ha! I learned something new about Penguins though. Thank's.
We
@@douglasturner6153 I enjoyed your positive response. May the Creator bless you.
I am so glad Christian's are open to research and analysis of the Word of God. In the end God will ensure His Word will prevail. "Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away."Mat 24:35
The Righteous Right Hand: can you elaborate on your comment as to why you are glad Christians are open to research and analysis???
@@ddp8972 The Bible which is the Word of God was revealed to His prophets of old, I would say going back 4000 years.
Since then His Word has been continually revealed to His chosen ones. Over the years scribes have recorded and very carefully maintained them with the highest care. God always had a remnant who kept His Word though traditions and laws and storytelling. We are confident that what we read today, which are translations, is a reliable source for our faith, because the scriptural manuscripts have been analyzed, researched, compared with other historical documents and traditions etc
The translations are true copies of the manuscripts they are based on. Between manuscripts itself there is little variation that affect core beliefs and doctrines, considering the 4000 year spread.
Christian's are also open to discussions and are honest enough to identify discrepancies in translations if any. We know this is not mans word because of the prophesies that were fulfilled and God will preserve His Word for all generations.
It's true that God doesn't want us to be dumb non thinking people. He wants us to ponder these things and wrestle with His word. Nothing more but the blood of Jesus the Christ who became sin for us. AMEN
Finally, an unbiased-Dead-Sea-Scrolls scholar. I wish, sometime earlier, I would have found your work.
Absolutely
Nehemiah Gordon... worked first hand on the actual scrolls, along with Aleppo Codex and so many of our worlds most ancient scriptures & manuscripts.
I can remember reading that some people think Tabor is biased
@@Ka112eb we're all biased, the key is to ignore the ones who pretend they aint.
Hah! Unbiased! The whole time he continually refers to his antireligion, anti faith stance... its all biased here and the flock just eats it up. Whats that called?
This is one of the best videos I've seen in awhile, not that I agree or disagree, just good information....food for thought with outstandibg references. Thank You!
You don't get to agree or disagree with information someone finds. It is INFORMATION. You live in the new world where YOU think that YOU can decide what information you think is suitable for your delicate brain. YOU are part of the problem.
@@Onemore59 it's called judgment......hmmmm wonder if that word can be found in the scrolls. Peace
@@Onemore59 Jeff, did you remove your post? Yes, we can judge information as we see fit....of course! We should examine and judge! The information should follow scripture and if it doesn't we can listen and analyze for ourself, tell me you believe everything these folks say? Peace!
Dr. Tabor, I have the Dead Sea Scrolls The Oldest Known Bible Translated for the First Time into English by Abegg, Flint, and Ulrich... I am enjoying it to some degree, however, it does not include the Apocalypse Scroll???, Community Scroll, etc. Is there any book you can recommend with all the texts of the Dead Sea Scrolls?
If you haven’t found it by now, try finding the book called “the other Bible”
It’s a compilation of a bunch of apocryphal texts and pseudepigraphal texts
I’m thankful to be able to watch these
Could you please list these books in the comment section? Thank you !
Motivated by this video I've purchased a copy of the DSS Bible. There is an aspect of the bible that I'm a bit confused about and that's how the words translated to English are shown as fragmented, IE 'fac[e of the dee]p'. Since the language of the fragments is Hebrew, or Aramaic , translation to English is typically done on a 'word by word' basis, or done by phrasing the meaning of passages. This confuses me a little because in the first instance in my sample, 'fac' is considered to be intact, and 'e' is added because it's missing, and also 'dee' is missing, where 'p' is added. I know of no translation to English from any language that is a letter for letter translation, so what am I to understand? That the first three letters of the Hebrew were in tact and the following letter or letters are missing?
Not having the DSS in the orignal language as well as not knowing how to read it, I can't really look for myself.
If anyone can offer some insight I would appreciate it.
Probably because of holes in the manuscripts. In the gospel of Judas translations was the same problem.
@@ioneltorac I assumed it was due to missing letters in the Aramaic, Hebrew. However how would those missing letters in another language actually equate to showing missing letters in the English translation, and interestingly enough they tend to be at the beginning or end of the English words as I'm reading them?
In translation it's never a 'letter by letter' translation of the words, but rather the meaning of the word instead, and as such this brought about my question. It cannot be a precise transition, so my best guess not knowing any different is that it's representative of the original language word having it's beginning or it's end missing so maybe the publishers represented this by clipping off the beginning or end of the English words.
I have a question about the scrolls themselves. I notice that one dss of Habakkuk has chapter 2 without the verse 4, and then another manuscript has 2:4. Are these the same original scroll?
Thank you Dr. Tabor. I always like comparing the similarities & seeing the differences between the DSS & my Hebrew Tanakh.
This scrolls is is confirming the islamic perspective.Can you look at it
@@galielachmat2087 how is it confirming Islam?
@@christo-chaney connect t he
Connect the dots,look into the story of the prophet like Moses ,coming. As well as the 3 priests.(Prophets).
@@christo-chaney The 40
Years is the rule of Jesus after his return,he will live for 40 years
The people I know talking about the DSS online right now are Dr Tabor, Dr John J Collins, and Dr Kipp Davis. It would be wonderful for a channel like MythVision or Digital Hammurrabi to host all of you at once for a discussion!
MythVision 🖕🖕🖕 #FreeDrPrice
@@HistoryandReviews Are you drunk and lost yet again?
Thank you for your references!!!💓
Ken Johnson also does a great job on the Dead Sea Scrolls
@@HistoryandReviews intelligent comment...
Was the wine spilling a recent event or did it happen way back in the community that used the text?
I wouldve never guessed that the Dead Sea Isaiah Scroll read differently than both the Greek Text AND the Samaritan Pentateuch. Im curious as to what the discrepancies are between it and the Samaritan text.
Basically masoretic Hebrew text.
Only 10 percent of Dead Sea scrolls are written in Aramaic.
Only 10 percent or less are written in koine Greek.
For most of its history they have been under control of Roman Catholic and Vatican connected gate keepers.
Are they 100 bc or are they John the Baptist? 30 AD to final hiding from Vespasian and Titus 68 AD?
Was the synagogue language and Jewish Judea daily spoken vernacular actually Greek? With some Hebrew and almost no Aramaic like the new theory.
And the pre Babylonian Talmud text was a Hebrew Masoretic that contained basically the Septuagint additional readings? With the current Orthodox Jewish Masoretic text conspiratorially modified from the Septuagint readings after Titus and Bar Kobcha as the new theory states.
Really enjoy your talks. Thanks for your Insight
I love the information you’re giving us. Appreciate you very much
Ditto
Question: Dr. Tabor, what do you think of the translations of Italian translator, Mauro Biglino?
From what I learned it gave credence to the apocryphal writings related to the Septuagint as compared to the Masoretic Text.
Absolutely great information. Could you please post the names of the books and authors as well please they are hard to see with the glare 🙂🙏🕊💞
So what is the original source material for the Old Testament? Are the Dead Sea scrolls the oldest source material or are there older sources and are the DSS and whatever other source material in hebrew?
Just ordered the book. This is a great example of excellent YT content. Thanks for posting.
4:14 I have that too. I was actually disappointed that there was no new information in it. I am very glad I found this. I didn't know that book existed, I didn't think there was a translation available. Thank you for sharing your work 👍
@M H praise the lord
@M H So does that mean the New Testament should be tossed out , or at least viewed under heavy skepticism ... and we need to add their writings reforming the bible (word of God) ?
Since clearly the NT seems to have a pacifist view towards iniquity compared , which one can get the view it is Romes adoption of the "Sons of Light" views ... but flipped. Or maybe just what people then came up with , because being angry and exclusionary with Rome and it's rule was to exhausting and ultimately proved fatal . So I guess a concept of ... If you can't beat them , then join them ... which did lead to christian concepts then taking over. Albeit with the conundrum of ... is it still pure , and how much does that purity really matter ?
IDK ... just some obvious questions that come to my mind if in fact Jesus was their teacher of righteousness.
@M H Are you sure that is what is being shown here? Because I am very confused at what he is trying to say. My faith has been severely shaken. I don't feel like I am up for the taks to figure all this out. I don't think I am smart enough to do it. Can you tell me what you are seeing that I seem to be missing here?
@@TCgirl I have not done a deep study on this teacher of righteousness. But I've been in your shoes of struggling with faith when doing all of this research. But I've learned that the biggest issue is Paul and his false gospel. The folks at Qumran were definitely connected to John and Jesus. I understand that doing all of this research is rough. But if I can help answer your questions, I'll try. So ask away.
@@MinisterRedPill are you a believer in Yahowsha or however you say his name? I the guy doing this video a believer or is he trying to prove its all just made up nonsense?
Thank you so much for this religiously unbiased video presentation. I like how you presented the textual variations, without dogmatically imposing (forcing) your opinion, as to which textual reading is the original. You let the listener see the big picture and this draw their own conclusions.
At some point I want to purchase the English translations of the Dead Sea Scrolls. I only wish I could read directly from the original Hebrew text of the Dead Sea Scrolls, or Masoretic Text.
And... of course, being able to read the NT Greek would be nice too.
The ESV Bible is updated with the Dead Sea Scrolls. Look at Deuteronomy 32:8 in the ESV.
8 When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance,
when he divided mankind,
he fixed the borders[a] of the peoples
according to the number of the sons of God.[b]
Here is that note [b]
Deuteronomy 32:8 Compare Dead Sea Scroll, Septuagint; Masoretic Text sons of Israel
A Dr. Michael S Heiser wrote several books. One called The Unseen Realm. Might want to check it out. He just passed away February 2023. Sad only was 60. He has several stuff on RUclips.
Here is The True Savior
YaH The Heavenly FATHER (Genesis 1) HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF”
From the Ancient Semitic:
"Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3)
Ancient Semitic Direct Translation
Yad - "Behold The Hand"
He - "Behold the Breath"
Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
it’s easier to learn to read a language than it is to speak it, just pick one and get started, I learned to read Russian with RUclips and google earth😂
Hi, 1) is there a book or resource i can purchase that has the original dead sea scrolls writing in its original language and english translation side by side? 2) If not available. is there an original language version? maybe i can site the original language book next to a book with english translation. 3) is there similar books for New testament manuscripts with side by side english translation?
This was a fantastic presentation full of useful information and beautifully presented. Thank you
Very informative and interesting. Thank you for sharing 🙏
Would love to see a discussion between Professor Tabor and The God Culture RUclips Channel about Dead Sea Scrolls.
Thank you.
1993 was a good year for us restoring Sanctuary Service in Jerusalem and Waco.
If you we’re going to hide text from enemies, would you hide them near to where you live, far from there or somewhere in between?
Great Content.
Love how you show us the books & not just talk about them.
Thankyou
46:50 Only through the suffering of his soul, can any man see the light and satisfaction should translate as final happiness. This should be used more often to explain how we are supposed to learn from all those sufferings which occcur upon the earth, and rather than accuse God of allowing suffering, we should praise God for providing us the opportunities to learn and enlighten.
Wonderfully said. I needed to hear that today.
@@katherinebruce500 The real help is understanding that Cain never ever killed Able and that story explains the delusional creation of our imagination being separated and disconnected from biology
The only suffering that takes place is when a baby copies mums swollen (she is terrified) Amygdala
What's the Amygdala ?
That's Able
@@gratefulkm To each his own. I believe the Bible's theory.
It just gets so horrifically painful sometimes. Victor Frankl said that if you can find a good reason for suffering,you can bear it,but too often it's just senseless.
If the Dead Sea Scrolls are the oldest extent of the Hebrew Text what do you have to compare it to?
Tell me, those books are they translated into English? If so, can their translation be trusted How do we know? I guess what I mean is wouldn't it be like Un-Cannoned ? I don't know if I spelled that right but I hope you understand?
You’re probably getting ready to say it but is it the same three that came to Moses and since he proclaimed the end from the beginning is that a possible interpretation?
I remember seeing you on Zola Levitt presents talking about the scrolls that were just released great program
Gosh there is a blast from the past. I haven’t heard his name in a decade.
Thank you so much Dr James
Thank you so much for sharing all this information, I would like to know the title of the book with pictures of the scroll you show in minute 40. (Thank you)
Goodmorning Dr Tabor, I am from SA...how grateful I am today to open your site and see that my wish came true by seeing the deathsea-scroll Bible in front of my eyes... I always wanted to have the Truth of Father Almighty and His Son by having the writings out of the deathsea scrolls.... is there a way to contact you personally....forgive my Englisch, I am German, but think my writing is understandable.....regards out of a bittery cold town in SA...
Gracias doctor, vivimos en tiempos en que los conocimientos bíblicos son mas difíciles de entender y contextualizar, muy substanciosa su plática y estoy haciendo un resumen. Soy estudiante de idiomas antiguos y del traslado de las ideas bíblicas a dichos idiomas, aun en uso.
Hola soy yo mismo 11Q13 Melchizedek...
I’m listening to your book The Jesus Dynasty. It’s excellent. I hope your other books get translated into Audible books too. They are so interesting I don’t notice how tired I am when on my bike!
Can you send me more details about the Trip you mention this this lecture? Wondering if it is open to outsiders. Thanks.
Fascinating! Thanks for sharing this. It’s really helpful to get a balanced perspective on this.
The LXX and the Masoretic texts each present a Patriarchal period from Adam to Abraham that differs by well over one thousand years, with the LXX showing the longer of the two. Does Genesis in the DSS agree with either of them?
It is perhaps interesting to note that whenever Jesus quoted the Scriptures, he mostly used the LXX.
While this may sound weird, the Septuagint was the dominant version of the Jewish Bible in circulation in the 1st century. Remember, most literate Jews in this era either lived in the greater Roman Empire (which spoke Greek) or were educated in Greek schools and had Greek names even if they lived in Israel. In fact, the very Sadducees who controlled the Temple and were considered the preeminent teachers of the Bible and many of the Pharisees (like Josephus himself) were either promoting Greek or were primarily speaking Greek themselves. The writers of the gospels were writing to actual Greeks and Hellenized Jews, so of course they would have transcribed Jesus' quotes in the form their audiences would have been familiar with, and that's the Septuagint.
Also, the Masoretic text didn't exist yet.
@@andrewsuryali8540 everything you said is lies. Josephus proved that Jews didn't really know Greek. How is someone 2000 years removed from that period going to tell us what took place? Jesus didn't quote the LXX. The LXX was corrupted to conform to the midrash interpretations in the NT.
The Jews read from scrolls when in the temple. Jesus read from scrolls. Not a LXX or Masoretic.
So very important and interesting subject, and it's surprising implications for us Believers.
I am tending to see merit in these interpretations and understanding of all that is being said.
Hello: James make reference to readings from Isaiah "in the Samaritan Pentetuch." I am curious, doesn't the Samaritan Pentetuch only contain the five books of Moses, and NOT the prophet Isaiah???
Thank you for your videos ! What school do you recommend for masters and PhD work on second temple era ?
Trump University.
very interesting and enlightening teaching ! Thank you Doctor Tabor ! This is exciting stuff fir us non Scholars !
Genesis 11: 12 And Arphaxad lived a hundred thirty five years, and he procreated Cainan. From the Greek Septuagint (LXX) and the Samaritan Pentateuch. While the KJV says Arphaxad was only 35 when he begot Cainan, and lops 100 years off the rest of the post flood generation. I would like to know where the Dead Sea Scrolls put these figures, as I believe the Masoretic text was changed deliberately to shorten those days after the flood.
The variations in the book of Isaiah and in other books of the Torah should not be surprising. Originally the teachings were passed verbally from generation to generation. It is normal that when the authors had to put these teachings in writing different individuals may have used different words or phrases.
49:00: What's the Hebrew word for "messenger", though? If it is מלאך, that might rather be a self-reference to the prophet (מלאכי), to whom the text is ascribed.
40:35 what book is that?
Is it Scrolls from Qumrân cave I?
I found Dr Tabor through watching all these different documentaries, and especially the Simcha Jacobovici ones. One of the things that I love is the ability to be neutral on this stuff.
Simcha denies Christ's blood
@@jacobchristian6429 ..... And???
@@jacobchristian6429
the Jesus story starts right off the bat with a lie !!!
the Virgin birth, his birthday belongs to other deities before him ???? and fake risen body ... Greek myth mixed in with Hebrew reinvent religion Jesus is actually Joshua/ Yehoshua except Joshua died in battle laying by a rock ..
the fake Jesus died , forsaken on the cross by God
@@3wolfsdown702 wrong. But I'll pray for you. For your eyes to open and see. I went through all of my doubts and faced my unbelief to the point where I tore a bible..... but then I read the Bible "for myself" from page one.
Instead of listening to others catch phrases talking points and repetitive sermons. Instead of saying," well my grandmother goes to church every Sunday all her life and the pastor says,".
Blah blah blah
Misleading the multitude away from yes Yesuah...
Jesus the Mischa
@@jacobchristian6429
Joshua /yehoshua was a mortal man he saved the people in the wilderness not their souls LOL read the book of Joshua
Hi, I've read the works of an Australian Dr Barbabra Thiering,. Have you an opinon of her translation ?
Shalom bro! Ive been watching your video
Can I get some scriptures about the Dead See Scrolls?
You say the Book of Esther was recently found. My good friend tells me that it was not found but that what was found was 2nd Esdras and that for some reason people are calling it Esther. Any clarification to give on this?!
I would also like to know this
Neither Esther nor 2nd Esdras was found.
Hello Professor,. are either of the books you introduce & recommend at the beginning of your video or any other books you use in your lectures endorsed by Professor Robert Eisenman? I've read several of his books. They are very comprehensive and I consider them to be outstanding.
Thanks for your contributions as well. I'm brand new to your channel.
I'd be very interested in your point of view regarding the popular theory held by most Orthodox Rabbinic Jews that Enoch that comes down to us today are not Holy books at all but are in fact forgeries. In fact, the parts of Enoch that I have read are highly Christological which along with mainstream Judaism I am convinced supports the completely false and highly plagiarized and misappropriated religion of Christianity.
Do you think the book of enoch from dss is fake?
@@linneaadler7819 up until the finding of (the fragments, mind you) Enoch in the DSS, it has been widely believed the the Books of Enoch were forgeries. Now they can make comparisons with the Ethiopic because they, theoretically at least, would be more reliable.
@@bobbycottonwood000 Wow!!!!
Jesus simply is the only way to God our Father..
All the Bible in hundreds of examples proves Jesus is JHWH they are one. Only God alone Father Is our Savior. God alone our Rock.. yet clearly Paul tells us Jesus is that Rock .. which OT clearly spells out Jehovah.
Jesus is only way brother..the narrow door.
See Jewish girl visit to heaven , she met Jesus , H e is who he says He is . NDE
These videos are really worth watching!
And Enoch one talks about the 10 periods and do they cover a greater host of time than what their interpretation entailed of Daniel?
I was enthralled when I discovered at about age 18 the scrolls were found, and I latched on to them as soon as they were successfully translated. Now at 75 years of age I'm still excited about all archaeological discoveries, and I honestly believe the Essenes were sent by Almighty God to be there for the Advent of Jesus of Nazareth, and they mysteriously "Disappeared" after His Divine Holy Appointment. Jesus Yeshua is Lord and King there is NO other.
❤️✝️❤️
Interesting conjecture.
Thanks for informative and inspiring knowledge from the Dead Sea Scrolls and other biblical manuscripts and your words concerning this biblical material.
there are no dead sea scrolls it was messianic plot they didn't find them in these caves these scripts were smuggled why didn't they documented the discovery ?! it was the fifties the discovery of tut tomb was documented in 1922 by photographers and the press 30 years older ! the prove that these scripts were smuggled is among them the script of Damascus vault which was smuggled from the synagogue of Cairo in 1890 and they claimed it was discovered in gumrans!don't trust israel with anything and these messianic who run the cover for them
@@messianic_scam Spot on. You have figured it out. Congrats!
@@Skriften
you are all messianic you think we dont know
@@messianic_scam Really?
@@messianic_scam I am concerned with truth, justice and honesty.
I do not believe in established religions or other established systems of thought no matter what names they go by.
I believe in an Almighty Intelligence
Favorite book: THE BIBLE
That's me.
Thankyou from Alaska, Please can you Help me get Photo Copies of
The Paleo Pictographic Dead Sea Scrolls Books of The Tanakh...?
I'm having a bit of trouble wrapping my head around how the oldest version of something (that we know of) keeps being referred to as a "copy" of something newer. Wouldn't the newer version be the copy of the older version?
Is Windows 1 just a "copy" of Windows 10, or am I just misunderstanding the use of the word copy?
My question is, how did something so called thousands of years old "thousands of years old"now , make it through those thousands of years and the flood,also other disasters to be in readable order "INTERPRETED" and read today!!?
@@kschoolcraft
Why are you assuming a flood to start with?
@@kschoolcraft
As for the thousands of years, what about the millions of years?
@@johnruby1363
That nonsense has nothing to do with the question I asked
My copy of windows 10 dvd may be pressed at a later date than your copy of windows 10 dvd but they are both copies. We know we don't have actual original writings for any of this so they are all copies of an unknown original, regardless of age.
Dude YOU SOLVED IT FOR ME !!
I read that Bible code in the 90s when I was a True Believer.. I was also into Math and Fibonnaci sequences etc...
I wanted to believe in the Noble Code because that would be FACT ENOUGH for me...
Anyway something didn't quite sit right with me then because I knew just how easy it was to manipulate "unseen" variables !! But i still liked the whole idea 💡
AFTER 25 YEARS I NOW KNOW ... They just used whatever version that fit the math best 👌 👍 😍
So does that mean you no longer believe in Yeshua or Jesus? What do you believe now? I'm so confused with all the information. I miss Jesus.
@@TCgirlDont worry about it, Jesus says none of this matters if you accept him into your heart
Even if God exists, he need not behave like a human to favour believers and show displeasure over non believers, regardless of their righteousness. Can a good CEO be displeased with you and disregard your talents just because you do not know his name?
If God only favour believers regardless of their righteousness, then he needs to have an egoistic and nepotic character like worldly tyrants and corrupt politicians.
The idea that one can go heaven without cultivating himself to higher spiritual standard is as silly as cramming unrefined squatters into premium residential estate and still expect it to remain a premium property.
Anyone claiming their religion is the only true religion needs to first prove that only their believers were continuously blessed by God since antiquity. Cheers.
Modern research on Near Death Experience by Raymond moody, reincarnation memories by Ian Stevenson/Jim trucker and past lives regression by Brian Weiss all independently but coincidentally show that our consciousness survive death, we live many lives and our thoughts and actions matter in the hereafter.
So be kind and helpful to others, be virtuous, meditate and cultivate ourselves to higher spiritual levels. Cheers.
Religious cults. Members making up nonsense justifications for being in them.
Awesome discussion. Love all your videos. I wonder what was in those other jars in that cave.
I think the graves at Qumran are buried in a special pattern. Maybe you can find some time to study the positions a little bit more. It looks like some of the graves block entrances and exits. It's clearly evident that there is a specific pattern of some sort. Don't think the placing of each grave was random.
never heard the location of the graves of Qumran is significant but love the new topic to research. Do you know where you learned of this? Do you know which time frame the graves are from, like from the Roman siege? thanks
Answer the question, please, sir...
(Messaging this bc it's been a few weeks, and my guess is you missed the other person's comment 🙃)
I believe "Miles" in the movie "Sideways" was the broken, Vav (Numbers 25:12) because I believe Numbers 25:11 was read at the end of the movie
See Strongs #2511 (to smooth, divide)
This is two years late, but your the first theologist scholar that I currently found that mentioned Josephus and vespasian, I'm on the search for not just scholaring but also truth and faith. Everything I have seen felt twisted or wrong even as a kid I felt it wasn't being interpreted right .
I am looking at the dead sea scrolls Bible it shows Enoch 1 but does it also have 2 and 3?
This was an excellent video. A lot of good information and it's inspired me to dig even deeper when I have time. I was especially intrigued about the two messiah's, I've read about that belief before so it was fascinating hearing it from the dead sea scrolls
Only one messiah
On replay 👍🏽
I’ve been debating even bothering to get into the Dead Sea Scrolls…. sincerely seeking the truth but I don’t want to incorporate lying, faked garbage if that is the case.
Have you read/researched the Dead Sea scrolls?
I don’t mean to be indifferent to the two Massiahs thinking. Although if we can put our mind back to that Period of time.. we might see a large amount of anxiety. By that time, in Fear, they would be Grasping for something good. Which could have been two or more scenarios. At a time when several Religions may have been Practiced. Different God for different situations. Pagan Religions had several god’s they expect to save them from various types of problems. So two Messiahs would not be out of the way for a Prophet or Scribes to Record. Just a thought.😃🙏
@@masonwright7700Paul. Absolutely
I've read lots of different Bibles. They all say about the same thing.
Have you read the writings of Jonathan Cahn?
Dr. Tabor,
Which compilation of Greek translations of Hebrew stories do you consider to be "the septuagint" ?
Which translations, if any, are considered authentic ?
Isn't it just as fallacious to refer to "the septuagint" as it is to refer to "the bible" ?
Do you think the Jewish supernatural stories about the creation of "the septuagint" to be reality ?
How accurate are the Dead Sea scrolls to the Bible?
The Masoretic manuscripts among the Dead Sea Scrolls are astonishingly similar to the standard Hebrew texts 1,000 years later, proving that Jewish scribes were accurate in preserving and transmitting the Masoretic Scriptures.
A. Are the scrolls in Hebrew or Aramaic? I can read Hebrew but when Daniel turns to Aramaic I can read it but I'm lost for most b part. But I'd like an inter linear version. I've always said the Samaritans and us Jews are "Hebrews". And it's time to bury the hatchet over the differences.
Interesting video, thank you for sharing it. I have read a couple of books in relation to the Dead Sea Scrolls.
How do I get a copy of that dead sea scroll book
After watching this and reading many of the comments, one thing is certain. Religion as it pertains to the DSS is as decisive as ever. Be that as it may, thank you Dr Tabor for your efforts. This is a great vid.
It is meant to be that way. It separates those who are children of God from those who reject that just as Jesus Christ said it would be over 2000 years ago.
Do you mean divisive?
@@younggrasshopper3531 Yes, damn autofill. Thx
Eventually, everyone will know the truth
@@fredziffle5219 I appreciate your faith in Me. When I Am ready I will reveal Myself to them.
Thank you for this information Dr. Tabor!!! I have heard you speak as a guest, but never looked at your site. I'm just fascinated with the information you provide. I am a follower of The Way, repenting and returning to the first works (Rev. 2:5), including honouring His Shabbaths and feasts, and your knowledge of the Dead Sea Scrolls is truly opening my eyes further! Thank you so much!!!
OK, I am at 31:28, where are the specific instances of the scrolls v Hebrew Bible? Maybe I misunderstood the title.
8:22 you think the Dead Sea Scrolls are a bigger find than Gobekli Tepe and the Anatolian monolithic sites dating to the younger dryas?
I wish someone would put the LXX in a regular bible format. Your choice now is a very large book or a book with tiny print that is still large. Love the information!
Like a personal size large print
Sorry but what does LXX means? Acronym for what?
@@rakelscada5576 Septuagint translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into the Greek language 200 years or so before Jesus was born. They have it in English. It’s most likely what the apostles and Jesus used.
LXX is the Latin numerals for 70 (50+10+10). 70 Scribes wrote down the text, each independent of the others. The collective results of their labours are known as the Septuagint (70) @@rakelscada5576 That's it in a nutshell and you will find much more information online. :)
I am not a scholarly man, (I cannot even type this without spell check) but I do find all this very interesting. Variations in text do not as a rule bother me much. I feel the information God intended is there if one chooses to seek it. The one thing I have trouble with is when people give binary options on how to read the Old Testament. I seldom see a one best way to read, but several. In scripture, I tend to see four things at once. many passages appear to me to be; An historical account of the time, a prophesy to come soon, a prophesy about Christ's first coming,, and in some cases also about the end times to come. We have got to get away from narrow fundamentalism and recognize the many layers God packed into His written word. He did not waist any space and He packed His written word full of delightful for the soul to be nourished.
But then again, I barely made it through high-school 40 years ago, so what do I know? 🤠
@@okay8298 Thanks for your concern. I am just trying to be realistic. Far too many people grossly exaggerate the depth of their intelligence, wisdom and understanding.
So I tend to go the other way. I am a terrible speller, I never was good at memorization and have had to work very hard to accumulate the few scraps of knowledge I do have.
what is interesting to me is that for nearly 50 years, I was the odd man out in any church group setting because I had an intuitive sense that many parts of scripture were being interpreted wrong, but I have lacked the knowledge I needed to make a case. This last year I found Dr Michael Heiser, and for the first time, I have some tools I can sort of use.
These guys brought tears to my eyes because I found out that I am probably not crazy, or if I am, at least I am in good company. 🤠
Hello Mr. Miller. Your comments are quite unique and interesting…forgive my forwardness but I have a feeling you might like the online church I “attend” (it’s in Texas and I’m in Tokyo). But they do livestream every Saturday Texas time….very deep and humble Bible study. ruclips.net/user/4HisGloryTX
I see many layers as well. My theory is it’s supposed to unfold like the petals of a rose to keep revealing as you grow in spirit. Some only see the literal interpretation
That was a very common sense comment. I belong to the LDS church, or “Mormons”. And that is the very reason mainstream Christians complain about us because from the very start we said we believed in the Bible as far as it is translated correctly. You can fully accept the Bible, just knowing that some words here and there have been changed.
@@c.l.888 that’s not the same thing. LDS did a lot more They rewrote EVERYTHING, added 3 more documents that were supposed to be secret, thereby completely changing the entire narrative to the point that is not recognizable nor can it be supported by using original text. No, that is not what I was advocating at all.
When were you at ACU? I was in Abilene early 80's.
TY for the video. May we be found worthy and striving to figure it all out at the coming of our King.
John the immerser was 6 months older than Yeshua. When Herod gave the decree to kill all the boys 2 years old and under, John would have been under that decree. Yah had already warned Joseph to take Yeshua and flee to Egypt. John was most likely hidden in Qumran, in the wilderness. Yeshua talks about Zechariah being killed at the temple altar. Josephus also mentioned the priest who was killed because he would not give up his son. People knew John had a miraculous birth, Zechariah could not speak until John was named. They probably figured John was the child they were looking for. They killed Zechariah, John's father. Most likely they did the same with Elizabeth as his mother was not mentioned again. John remained in Qumran and that is most likely where he came from in the wilderness.
Where could I find more information on this
@@r.m.7743 most of it is in Josephus, but I don't know which book. He talks about Zechariah the priest being killed in the temple. The baby boys being killed, 2 years old and under, is in the Bible. It's a situation of piecing the story together. Also, look up information on how the Essenes lived. They would allow orphan children to stay in their community and learn to work for the priests who lived there.
This is very interesting. I am joining this thread so as to be notified of any further comments
Very helpful. Thank dear
Not Yeshua but Yahusha! Yeshua is the Amaraic word for anointed, but not anointed by a specify being! Yahusha on the other hand has his Father's name Yah as the first syllable of his name.
I love seeing and hearing these adoptions that some of us were waiting to be found for a very long time. As a child I knew things that were against what had always been known. I knew these things unlike we know the alphabet or how to add and subtract, but I knew like how I knew when to breathe. I do hope people give up the race one day. What happens at the end of a race?
Can you please restate the name of the book that has the dead sea scrolls and all the different variations in the footnotes
Are there any interpretations saying that the Essenes call themselves the “Sons of Light” because they followed their solar calendar?
King James had the Bible edited to his taste. Nobody today knows the original version 🤷
how British man would translate ancient Hebrew language is beyond.my understanding
The BIGGEST problem is that the things that are lost in translation are beyond our comprehension and I believe are the key elements to understand the truth of our past.
So, go learn Hebrew...the language of the Torah 3460 years ago is the language we teach our 3 (three) year old children since Abraham 3750 years ago. "We NEVER Lost It"
@@RasMajnouni 100% guarantee there has been true meanings lost in translation over the centuries- even if it’s ‘the same language’
@@RasMajnouni if this was something either of us could prove beyond a reasonable doubt - we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
@@chexterkat I could easily PROVE what I said, but those of us who have learned the SAME Torah ever since it was Given and revealed by The Infinite One G-d 3460 years ago as a GIFT to humanity don't have that problem. IF (for example) my favourite author was the American John Steinbeck, and I had been reading him for 60 years in Hebrew, and YOU mentioned to me: "How do you understand this passage in "East of Eden"? And I relate to you what i read in HEBREW, and you said "I think you haven' read the essence of his message in TRANSLATION...."I wrote down 3 words, one is a 2 letter word in Hebrew that is in 6700 VERSES, one a 3 letter word found in many verses...okay: the word is אמת , which is always MIStranslated to be the word "Truth"...but that is the simple meaning. The first letter of "EMeT" (truth) is the first leter of the first ever Aleph-Bet (Hebrew) It is the language that G-d used to CREATE the Universes. The middle letter is the MIDDLE of the Aleph bet and the last letter is the LAST letter in the hebrew Aleph Bet....now, does that detract from the word "truth"? Of course, look up how many OTHER English words are there for "Truth". Worse: today people say "Well this is MY Truth". How can their be a "My" truth. True is true and in Hebrew there is ONE word. The Infinite NAME of G-d (HE revealled it) is 4 letters. Each letter stands for a word written by each letter. YWEH means "{G-D} Always was, {G-d} Always IS, and {G-d} Always Will Be, but in Holy Hebrew (G-d's Building Bl ocks of truth) It has deeper conotations, we understand the CREATION from that word, we notice how each letter in Hebrew is in DIRECTION, how it is written we see that the first letter is a seminal flash of Infinite Light which comes down into physicality and BROADENS and then the next letter is like a ladder that from the broadening of Creation (The Big Bang) it goes from broadening the cosmos into a downward level further and further until Spirit becomes physical. Light, stars moons Earth, galaxies and further down into Mineral Kingdom, Plant, Animal,Human.......souls in bodies...This is not even the TIP of the hidden iceberg...look, you can search any subject you want here:www.chabad.org/search/results.asp?searchWord=aleph+bes+building+blocks#gsc.tab=0&gsc.q=aleph%20bes%20building%20blocks&gsc.page=1, /BETTER here:ruclips.net/user/results?search_query=rabbi+manis+friedman&sp=CAM%253D
@@RasMajnouni you’re doing it again, I’ve gone through this circular argument countless times - you simply cannot quote the Bible as a source of evidence or proof for anything related to the Bible. You do NOT have access to the absolute earliest versions of the Bible or Quran or any of them. It’s like the telephone game - it’s been written and rewritten countless times. They’re not the same and you cannot prove that they are.
Hey Tabor, thank you for the info in here. Really awesome!
Greetings from your TN talmid friend.
After watching the video I have a question:
Isn’t, however, the LXX a later Greek compilation and not of just the Torah, but of the entire Tanak? As you know, the Torah portion of Tanak (first five Books of Moses) is all the 70 translated to Greek and it was destroyed in Alexandria. There’s no existing copy of it today.
What is your take on that?
Dr. Tabor, thank you for putting your teachings on RUclips for everyone. I understand that all the discrepancies you mentioned between the Masoretic text and the Septuagint and Dead Sea Scrolls originated with Rabbi Akiba, who intentionally modified the Hebrew Scriptures because the followers of Jesus refused to support Simon Bar Kockba and Messiah. Do you have any treaching that cover this?