Man, revisiting these old wizard eps has become such a good cool-down after a new video. Helps ease the wait til another one! These videos are perennial classics already.
The most interesting thing about the Death of Superman run up is that each issue had one less panel per page. Issue 71 had five panels a page. 72 had four panels per page, down to the all splash page issue. Worth a look for the layout variety alone.
Cool to see Bone showing up. Roughly six months after this a first grade me was going to be denied buying Shadowhawk by my local shop due to it not being age appropriate and recommended Bone instead. Worked out in the LONG run as I ended up having it on my pull list until it finished... a year or two after I finished high school.
excited to hear you guys talk about the maxx! been waiting for it. love how sam keith really went out of his way to create a community around the comic.
Tweeted a photo of a new Wolverine art by Sam Kieth to you guys. Turns out it's a one-shot with stories from Claremont, Hama, and Kieth. Art & covers by Larroca, Kieth, Stegman, and Liefeld. The Wizard #16 cover spoke to 11 year-old me as well. Keep bringing the great content!
When it comes to death of Superman - the splash pages was the culmination of the story - each issue leading up to it had one less panel than the one before if I remember correctly, it was a subtle and interesting way to do a countdown.
I grew up post 90s comics and have always been told how Image were the worst, and that there were no good comics being made by them so I never gave them a chance. Your guys videos are bringing to my atention lots of guys I would have never looked for otherwise, that Savage Dragon issue looks awesome!
Read distant soil probably 20 years ago - remembered liking it but could never remember the title. I’ve been literally wracking my brain for weeks and here it pops up!
Jonathan & CK: And for those among us without iTunes, there are the fabulous stream rippers! These services have come under some criticism from rights holders but for me they are essential. I've converted to mp3s hundreds and hundreds of interviews, lectures and, yes, the occasional Cartoonist Kayfabe episode! Although CK as audio-only is just a time-saving short cut for me. The videos are, so to speak, the real deal :-)
I was a huge Poison Elves fan. It was like a goth-punk Lord of the Rings. Not for sure how well it aged. But I’d definitely suggest reading a couple issues, and see what you think.
This issue is like a bizarre concurrence of things I saw at a used book store this week. Take note, there is basically one used book shop in the entirety of Tokyo that specializes in comics and even then it's usually kind of slim pickings, but I went there the other day to find a stack of those signed and numbered image halfsize comics, a truckload of wizard magazines, a lot of those early image runs packaged together, and to top it off, two graphic novels right next to each other featuring one Jim Rugg and Ed Piskor (American Splendor and American Virgin were the comics).
Went to words and pictures museum as a kid, as a 12 year old TMNT fan it was boring. Now looking back I'm sure I walked past alot of stuff I'd love to see now.
Hey, Ed, you asked about reading Poison Elves. I loved the series when I was a teen but it probably doesn't hold up very well. Drew Hayes was a very rough and unpolished cartoonist but I really enjoyed the punk vibe and fantasy setting of the book. The series was published digitally recently so you can check Amazon for some previews. You guys also talked about Stephen King's Misery, there was a also an issue of Poison Elves that was similar to Misery. It was I, Lusiphur #3 where an injured Lusiphur is taken in and cared for by an old man in the woods who turns out to be serial killer.
love poison elves, even got a poster hanging up hah. have a hard time recommending it to people who weren’t a very specific person in middle school, edgy outcast fantasy nerd.
It feels like all this 90s stuff has the vibe of " ya had to be there to get it". I keep trying to get my kid sister to read Youngblood and give us a review on the channel, just to see how these old comics hold up to a newer generation.
definitely! I’d love to know what the kids bringing back that mall goth aesthetic think of comics from that era. also just got to the greg irons part 👌👌 hell yeah, so choice!
The very very 1st appearance of Savage Dragon from Graphic Fantasy #1 from the early 80’s was recently reprinted in the oversized issue of Savage Dragon #225 as the backup story. It’s pretty bomb-ass.
Think in a lot of ways what you see as Ezquerra in the Deathblow piece is Moebius-via-Miller in "Ronin" - he was way more into that style and that was way more of a big deal at this point in time. Sin City had only been running in DHP for a few months at this point.
I could have sworn image was giving out those (not just Pitt) ashcans at Wondercons I went to growing up...all the publishers had them. Maybe that Pitt one is more of a prestige format than the ones I would get, but ashcans were everywhere.
Re: Megaton #3 I got my copy signed by Erik Larsen maybe 10 years ago (bought it in the mid-90's) and he laughed in my face. "Why do you want this signed." Wouldn't have expected anything less from Erik.
I was really hoping you would talk a little bit about Shannon Wheeler actually shooting a bullet hole in those Jab comics. There were different "variants" shot with different calibers from a .22 cal up to a shotgun.
I'll have to find the picture of him doing it and send it to you. They did most of them stacks at a time in someone's garage. Malibu copied it on a book I believe was called Protectors but they cut the holes instead of actually shooting the books.
Here is a story from CBR talking about it including scans of one of the books showing the way the bullet hole interacted with pages inside the comic. www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-addendum-images-of-jab-3/
I would be really curious on Ed's opinion on Poison Elves. I've tracked down a few of the trades put out by Sirius Entertainment. It's such a product of it's time, for good or bad (think Adam Ant and Alice Cooper with a splash of Church and State-era Cerebus). IMO, think it's main character bears some similarities to Jack Sparrow.
Great video guys. I was a teenager when this issue came out and after watching this remember being excited and then bummed out. No real info on Deathblow or Bludwolf. Read more comics ! 🌟🌟🌟🌟👍
I kind of love Chichester's Daredevil, but there's something a little "try-hard" about his poetic, beatnik prose style in hindsight. It's like the most oblique and difficult to read Morrison stuff and his scripts are wordy af. But it kind of suits the browbeating that Matt Murdock always dishes out for himself.
Wizard 10 featured a Rob Liefeld cover that had his creations Shaft from Youngblood and Cable from X-Force. I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel had an issue with them appearing alongside each other: imgur.com/gallery/EP5YZxf
This probably did more Hepcats for than anything in the last 20 years. Also I made a Kayfabe fan group on Facebook to discuss videos, comics, and spread the word - facebook.com/groups/2230261113720324/
Cartoonist Kayfabe you mispronounced “kibbitzing” but it wasn’t a shondeh-in the past you’ve also used “schnorrer. From a yid to a yinz, that cracks me up.
Man, revisiting these old wizard eps has become such a good cool-down after a new video. Helps ease the wait til another one! These videos are perennial classics already.
The most interesting thing about the Death of Superman run up is that each issue had one less panel per page. Issue 71 had five panels a page. 72 had four panels per page, down to the all splash page issue. Worth a look for the layout variety alone.
Cool to see Bone showing up. Roughly six months after this a first grade me was going to be denied buying Shadowhawk by my local shop due to it not being age appropriate and recommended Bone instead. Worked out in the LONG run as I ended up having it on my pull list until it finished... a year or two after I finished high school.
This was my first issue of Wizard, and where I fell in love with the Maxx and the art of Sam Keith. Thank you guys!
excited to hear you guys talk about the maxx! been waiting for it. love how sam keith really went out of his way to create a community around the comic.
Tweeted a photo of a new Wolverine art by Sam Kieth to you guys. Turns out it's a one-shot with stories from Claremont, Hama, and Kieth. Art & covers by Larroca, Kieth, Stegman, and Liefeld. The Wizard #16 cover spoke to 11 year-old me as well. Keep bringing the great content!
When it comes to death of Superman - the splash pages was the culmination of the story - each issue leading up to it had one less panel than the one before if I remember correctly, it was a subtle and interesting way to do a countdown.
I grew up post 90s comics and have always been told how Image were the worst, and that there were no good comics being made by them so I never gave them a chance. Your guys videos are bringing to my atention lots of guys I would have never looked for otherwise, that Savage Dragon issue looks awesome!
The writer on Legion of Charlies was a frequent Greg Irons collaborator named Tom Veitch, Rick's older brother.
Read distant soil probably 20 years ago - remembered liking it but could never remember the title. I’ve been literally wracking my brain for weeks and here it pops up!
Taking me back to middle school! (Please put all your Cartoonist Kayfabe videos on podcast so I can listen while driving.)
Do a free search on Itunes and you'll find what you need.
Jonathan & CK: And for those among us without iTunes, there are the fabulous stream rippers! These services have come under some criticism from rights holders but for me they are essential. I've converted to mp3s hundreds and hundreds of interviews, lectures and, yes, the occasional Cartoonist Kayfabe episode! Although CK as audio-only is just a time-saving short cut for me. The videos are, so to speak, the real deal :-)
iTunes: itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/cartoonist-kayfabe/id1440436793?mt=2
I was a huge Poison Elves fan. It was like a goth-punk Lord of the Rings. Not for sure how well it aged. But I’d definitely suggest reading a couple issues, and see what you think.
This issue is like a bizarre concurrence of things I saw at a used book store this week. Take note, there is basically one used book shop in the entirety of Tokyo that specializes in comics and even then it's usually kind of slim pickings, but I went there the other day to find a stack of those signed and numbered image halfsize comics, a truckload of wizard magazines, a lot of those early image runs packaged together, and to top it off, two graphic novels right next to each other featuring one Jim Rugg and Ed Piskor (American Splendor and American Virgin were the comics).
I hope you bought all of those signed/numbered Image halfsize comics. I don't see those very often. - Jim
Went to words and pictures museum as a kid, as a 12 year old TMNT fan it was boring. Now looking back I'm sure I walked past alot of stuff I'd love to see now.
Someone really liked that Game Genie commercial, lol.
Hey, Ed, you asked about reading Poison Elves. I loved the series when I was a teen but it probably doesn't hold up very well. Drew Hayes was a very rough and unpolished cartoonist but I really enjoyed the punk vibe and fantasy setting of the book. The series was published digitally recently so you can check Amazon for some previews.
You guys also talked about Stephen King's Misery, there was a also an issue of Poison Elves that was similar to Misery. It was I, Lusiphur #3 where an injured Lusiphur is taken in and cared for by an old man in the woods who turns out to be serial killer.
Side note I have been seeking these mags out just to read along. Just like in reading class
d:)
New to the channel, been binge watching episodes. Do they get to mentioning the Wizard 1/2 issues with the certificates?
love poison elves, even got a poster hanging up hah. have a hard time recommending it to people who weren’t a very specific person in middle school, edgy outcast fantasy nerd.
It feels like all this 90s stuff has the vibe of " ya had to be there to get it". I keep trying to get my kid sister to read Youngblood and give us a review on the channel, just to see how these old comics hold up to a newer generation.
definitely! I’d love to know what the kids bringing back that mall goth aesthetic think of comics from that era. also just got to the greg irons part 👌👌 hell yeah, so choice!
Hey, Ed. New Dimension Comics in Butler has a copy of Megaton #3. It's in great shape, but it cost 80 beans. They might be willing to do trade.
That's fine. A kayfaber just tossed me one in perfect condition for zero dollars.
@@CartoonistKayfabe Envy!!!!
The very very 1st appearance of Savage Dragon from Graphic Fantasy #1 from the early 80’s was recently reprinted in the oversized issue of Savage Dragon #225 as the backup story. It’s pretty bomb-ass.
That little night crawler. I remember that 😂
Think in a lot of ways what you see as Ezquerra in the Deathblow piece is Moebius-via-Miller in "Ronin" - he was way more into that style and that was way more of a big deal at this point in time. Sin City had only been running in DHP for a few months at this point.
Good point. I think you're right now that you mention it.
Thanks guys! SUNDAY NIGHT SCORE!
I could have sworn image was giving out those (not just Pitt) ashcans at Wondercons I went to growing up...all the publishers had them. Maybe that Pitt one is more of a prestige format than the ones I would get, but ashcans were everywhere.
Re: Megaton #3 I got my copy signed by Erik Larsen maybe 10 years ago (bought it in the mid-90's) and he laughed in my face. "Why do you want this signed." Wouldn't have expected anything less from Erik.
Man, I loved that Onslaught arc...that feels dirty just typing it
I was really hoping you would talk a little bit about Shannon Wheeler actually shooting a bullet hole in those Jab comics. There were different "variants" shot with different calibers from a .22 cal up to a shotgun.
That would have required us to know he shot holes in a book.
I'll have to find the picture of him doing it and send it to you. They did most of them stacks at a time in someone's garage. Malibu copied it on a book I believe was called Protectors but they cut the holes instead of actually shooting the books.
Here is a story from CBR talking about it including scans of one of the books showing the way the bullet hole interacted with pages inside the comic. www.cbr.com/comic-book-legends-revealed-addendum-images-of-jab-3/
I would be really curious on Ed's opinion on Poison Elves. I've tracked down a few of the trades put out by Sirius Entertainment. It's such a product of it's time, for good or bad (think Adam Ant and Alice Cooper with a splash of Church and State-era Cerebus). IMO, think it's main character bears some similarities to Jack Sparrow.
Great video guys. I was a teenager when this issue came out and after watching this remember being excited and then bummed out. No real info on Deathblow or Bludwolf. Read more comics !
🌟🌟🌟🌟👍
I kind of love Chichester's Daredevil, but there's something a little "try-hard" about his poetic, beatnik prose style in hindsight. It's like the most oblique and difficult to read Morrison stuff and his scripts are wordy af. But it kind of suits the browbeating that Matt Murdock always dishes out for himself.
Holy crap was that game genie commercial embarrassing.
Check out Mojo Press from Austin, and track down some Newt Manwich comics
YES JUST IN TIME!
Wizard 10 featured a Rob Liefeld cover that had his creations Shaft from Youngblood and Cable from X-Force. I wouldn’t be surprised if Marvel had an issue with them appearing alongside each other: imgur.com/gallery/EP5YZxf
This probably did more Hepcats for than anything in the last 20 years. Also I made a Kayfabe fan group on Facebook to discuss videos, comics, and spread the word - facebook.com/groups/2230261113720324/
The Maxx!
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More Yiddish, please, Ed.
Haha. What did I say? I forget.
Cartoonist Kayfabe you mispronounced “kibbitzing” but it wasn’t a shondeh-in the past you’ve also used “schnorrer. From a yid to a yinz, that cracks me up.
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