I'm surprised to see so many people claiming Indebted is still better. First off lead from gold is pointless with special finishers in the game, incandescent is a better voltshot (doesn't require reloading and has a bigger more damaging explosion) - yeah voltshots overload is nice but there's so many ways to stun overloads already. Heal clip is a free full heal on any kill, and lastly the aberrant origin trait is like a mini witherhoard that can trigger incandescent explosions....
1. LFG is one of the best perks in the game and will only gain more relevance if rocket sidearm reserves are tuned. 2. There is no way that incan is better than voltshot. In easier content, a stiff breeze will kill most enemies and in harder content, voltshot gives massive aoe when tagging a larger target. It also increases your single target dps significantly, which incan can’t do. 3. This is the only point that sticks. Heal clip slaps and the origin trait is significantly better.
1) Special finishers is not used in some builds and is not even that good to begin with. 2) Voltshot is more ammo efficient, quicker procs, easier procs and does more independent dmg than incandescent
@@jaginovsky 1. I shouldn’t have said LFG is pointless; but what I was trying to get across is that with special finishers and finders you can run around with aberrant as a primary weapon (in master raid content, was doing so yesterday), and be totally fine on ammo in the current state of the game. 2. Voltshot doing more single target damage is true to an extent, incandescent triggering ignitions that can nuke some bigger targets but yeah generally volt does bigger single target damage; but why not use ur other weapon for the big targets and aberrant for the ad clear? That’s what I was doing with supremacy and heritage, and again was having no ammo issues. 3. Heal clip is obviously great, but the origin is partially where I was coming from in saying incand is better. Also I don’t think you should ignore the fact incand doesn’t require any reloading to proc and while (maybe) not as strong as voltshot, is extremely similar. The overload argument is again weird to me when there’s like a million ways to stun overloads.
@@Kait07_ 1) That’s not optimal, special finishers should be used in every build especially rocket sidearm builds, it makes getting ammo so free that lead from gold becomes near useless 2) Again, ammo is not a problem. It’s not quicker and easier procs because it requires reloading where incand does not. Sure more single target damage and equivalent ad clear capability’s, but use other weapon big targets (I mentioned supremacy and heritage in my other comment) 3) You’ve conveniently left out heal clip being phenomenal and the origin trait dropping little witherhoards that can trigger incandescent (again working towards my argument that incand is better ad clear than voltshot in this scenario).
@@jaginovsky although I'm very much looking forward to potential stasis and kinetic versions coming out in the future. A non-exotic void option would be great as well.
ure using them the wrong way. I run the sidearms on both primary and energy slot and use them to gain trancedence the fastest in GM then i switch to abiltieis only unless i need weapons for stun. its an ultra aggressive style of play but its destroys nearly everything in game.
becuase of this i prefer the solar one as i can get demo and pugilist on the same side arm that 11% every kill on both greande and melee. heal clip and incandescent are massively overated.
how can you say that he is using them the wrong way and describe your non-meta way as the "right way"... the whole point of special sidearms are kinetic ammo substitutes due to their ammo abundancy. a one-two punch shotgun or other is better with them
@@Kait07_ i could have explained more. In the new meta the most fun way to play the game is abilities spam. for me at least. thus the most fun way becomes the best way for me. now double speacil sidearm means i can get transcendent pretty fast if needed and when not needed i can just melee my way through everything. if its an add the syntho knockout kills them. if its a bunch of adds the conceration kills them. if its a boss nearby adds then same thing consecration slam or go trancedance and slam. if its a boss on their own then go transcendecen and spam damage on them. my only ahcilhes heel is flying enemies but for that i switch to super and try and kill them and if i cant then 2nd to last resort is using Microcasm to dps them which in turns fills up trnascendent light spot and before they are dead i can go transendent or they just might die. The point is the special is their to supply transendence as fast as possible. all jokes aside anyone can use the guns how they want but i particlary find the most opitmal way to be the most fun way. its just how i am. and abiliy spam is the most optimal and fun way to play PVE. rather than just using Voltshot or Incandescent.
I’m currently farming the first encounter of Warlord for a lead from gold/ Volt shot roll for my gifted conviction build
The call is goated wdym? It’s the only kinetic slot special sidearm.
I'm surprised to see so many people claiming Indebted is still better. First off lead from gold is pointless with special finishers in the game, incandescent is a better voltshot (doesn't require reloading and has a bigger more damaging explosion) - yeah voltshots overload is nice but there's so many ways to stun overloads already. Heal clip is a free full heal on any kill, and lastly the aberrant origin trait is like a mini witherhoard that can trigger incandescent explosions....
1. LFG is one of the best perks in the game and will only gain more relevance if rocket sidearm reserves are tuned.
2. There is no way that incan is better than voltshot. In easier content, a stiff breeze will kill most enemies and in harder content, voltshot gives massive aoe when tagging a larger target. It also increases your single target dps significantly, which incan can’t do.
3. This is the only point that sticks. Heal clip slaps and the origin trait is significantly better.
1) Special finishers is not used in some builds and is not even that good to begin with.
2) Voltshot is more ammo efficient, quicker procs, easier procs and does more independent dmg than incandescent
@@jaginovsky
1. I shouldn’t have said LFG is pointless; but what I was trying to get across is that with special finishers and finders you can run around with aberrant as a primary weapon (in master raid content, was doing so yesterday), and be totally fine on ammo in the current state of the game.
2. Voltshot doing more single target damage is true to an extent, incandescent triggering ignitions that can nuke some bigger targets but yeah generally volt does bigger single target damage; but why not use ur other weapon for the big targets and aberrant for the ad clear? That’s what I was doing with supremacy and heritage, and again was having no ammo issues.
3. Heal clip is obviously great, but the origin is partially where I was coming from in saying incand is better. Also I don’t think you should ignore the fact incand doesn’t require any reloading to proc and while (maybe) not as strong as voltshot, is extremely similar. The overload argument is again weird to me when there’s like a million ways to stun overloads.
@@Kait07_
1) That’s not optimal, special finishers should be used in every build especially rocket sidearm builds, it makes getting ammo so free that lead from gold becomes near useless
2) Again, ammo is not a problem. It’s not quicker and easier procs because it requires reloading where incand does not. Sure more single target damage and equivalent ad clear capability’s, but use other weapon big targets (I mentioned supremacy and heritage in my other comment)
3) You’ve conveniently left out heal clip being phenomenal and the origin trait dropping little witherhoards that can trigger incandescent (again working towards my argument that incand is better ad clear than voltshot in this scenario).
@@VespertineGG why would I bring up something you already talked about. and the origin trait is not as good as you think it is, does jack shit dmg
I dislike velocity on rocket side arms, especially with beacon rounds
voltshot/jolt is just too good for me. being able to perma stun an overload with it is amazing.
how can you leave the call out. lol
There isn’t another rocket sidearm in that slot, therefore no decision to be made.
@@jaginovsky although I'm very much looking forward to potential stasis and kinetic versions coming out in the future. A non-exotic void option would be great as well.
He mentions it at 6:40.
@@Dennis_Reynolds_Golden_God chill clip rocket sidearm would go hard, headstone would be shite tho
Indebted just feels so much better to shoot. No idea what it is, just not a fan of Aberrant.
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@@max-pn8tt You're 100% correct actually
Indebted Kindness has Lead From Gold which is the best left perk. Voltshot is better on special ammo weapons than incandescent. simple
ure using them the wrong way. I run the sidearms on both primary and energy slot and use them to gain trancedence the fastest in GM then i switch to abiltieis only unless i need weapons for stun. its an ultra aggressive style of play but its destroys nearly everything in game.
becuase of this i prefer the solar one as i can get demo and pugilist on the same side arm that 11% every kill on both greande and melee. heal clip and incandescent are massively overated.
how can you say that he is using them the wrong way and describe your non-meta way as the "right way"... the whole point of special sidearms are kinetic ammo substitutes due to their ammo abundancy. a one-two punch shotgun or other is better with them
@@Kait07_ i could have explained more. In the new meta the most fun way to play the game is abilities spam. for me at least. thus the most fun way becomes the best way for me. now double speacil sidearm means i can get transcendent pretty fast if needed and when not needed i can just melee my way through everything. if its an add the syntho knockout kills them. if its a bunch of adds the conceration kills them. if its a boss nearby adds then same thing consecration slam or go trancedance and slam. if its a boss on their own then go transcendecen and spam damage on them. my only ahcilhes heel is flying enemies but for that i switch to super and try and kill them and if i cant then 2nd to last resort is using Microcasm to dps them which in turns fills up trnascendent light spot and before they are dead i can go transendent or they just might die. The point is the special is their to supply transendence as fast as possible.
all jokes aside anyone can use the guns how they want but i particlary find the most opitmal way to be the most fun way. its just how i am. and abiliy spam is the most optimal and fun way to play PVE. rather than just using Voltshot or Incandescent.
i was doing this for the legendary campaign but noticed my ammo dropped out, do you run special ammo finders?
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