AceMagic Mini PC Comes Pre-Installed With Malware
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2024
- AceMagic Mini PC Comes Pre-Installed With Malware
If you have one of the mini pc, make sure you wipe it and reinstall windows.
Do not use these images from this company. Other Mini-PC brands like AceMagic, Kamrui, NiPoGi, and CTONE, has come under scrutiny for shipping some models with hidden harmful software.
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FINALLY! Someone who sees right through that "clown" that takes 3 hours to do a review of a product where everyone else on RUclips is just a hobbist...not an IT Tech with 30 years of experience.. Hats off to you Brian. Your reviews of AceMagic was outstandiing. Thanks for alerting us about their products.
Thanks mate.
I ditto that, Curt.
I can't understand why all those viewers keep donating money to him every show. I repair and build computers every day but that ain't gonna happen.@@EIRE55
That "clown" is a complete donkey's a s s....I've made him aware of the fact too!!!
@@Britec09I found the same malware on my PC too, read the article, and now doing scans with Norton, windows defender, and malware bytes
This is why I have followed you for years. Thanks for helping me to broaden my computer skills.
Happy to help!
Yes mate me too since the days of Windows 7 and I am shocked to hear that he has been probably been slandered by the comments of that other fool.
Well done, Ben Bryan (that's what I hear when you give your name, so I hope it's right).
I've just finished watching your earlier video about this, and it's so refreshing to know that I've been subscribed for quite a while to a channel which is honest and knows what he's talking about. Kudos to you for ensuring that as many people as possible are made aware of this dreadful scam, and for not chasing credit by making false claims/reviews.
_PS - Amazon should approached and investigated for continuing to sell these dodgy products._
Strong argument for building your own PC and installing the OS yourself. I've been doing that for 20+ years.
You're not wrong mate, but there are some good brands out there
Yes mate me too I personally do not like mini PC's because I prefer to have machines I can access for example to install new hardware such as a new graphics card or install software from reputable sources.
I totally agree, I've been building my own PC for the last 20 years Also and it's so nice to have no bloatware and only the programs that I choose to install.
Prices for desktop parts outside the US are disgusting. We asian plebs are better off with these or consoles.
And this is why I sometimes don't like Mini-PCs especially with lesser known manufacturers
Its only these brands
Yes mate I also do not like any mini PC's as I am old fashioned and like to be able to get inside my machines if I want to and fit whatever hardware and/or software I can access from the internet - a reinstall of Windows for example or a new graphics card.
@@Britec09 Mate I'm talking about as a whole not just AceMagic
You should do a clean install, when ever you buy a new or used PC. This is we are at in 2024.
Nice one. You can reinstall a clean copy of Windows or Linux even on it if you want but like you said, you shouldn't have to.
Its the fact that some channels are protecting Acemagic and yet, it is serious what they have done
Even if we do a clean Windows reinstall, would there be a possibility of a hardware(chip) based malware that may still persists? (I recall this from a Bloomberg article some years back on the Supermicro servers)
@@weir-doe3205 It seems unlikely but you just never know. For this to happen the manufacturer would have to be a bad actor and installed this hardware. It would be lights out for them as a company as no one would ever buy from them again. No, I'd say a clean install should do the job. Run a good anti malware/virus scanner afterwards to make sure. Because they allowed this software on in the first place would be reason enough for me to avoid them in the future.
I've always come to your channel when looking for advice on hardward. Thanks for all the advice Brian
I've seen loads of reviews on you tube with other mini pc's with malware on them Cheers Brian great vid once again
Thank you for making this, because it gave me what file to look into on the malware and go from there. It’s a shame because honestly it’s not a bad mini pc, got the am06. But that’s was happens, and I learned quite a bit from this.
This is why anytime I buy anything that interfaces with the web I put it on my linux machine that has a extra ethernet port. I then start doing some packet sniffing to see if its reporting home or otherwise. Many of these cheep products that are being shipped from overseas that have lax security rules is a problem..
thank you for your work, we need more people like you to help keep us safe.
I appreciate that
Thanks for your honesty! We don't care even we don't see your face. But your videos are useful and that's enough for us
I appreciate that!
Brian showed his face once, but he got emails from 40 million adoring women. Too much, too many!
@@keithscott1957
Being a woman (a real one, btw), it makes me cringe when I see other women doing that.
It's like, just a couple of weeks ago, one of my favourite true crime channels (Disturban) was getting a lot of gyp from YT about something he hadn't done. Having never shown his face before, he came online in full view, and the amount of women swooning over his looks made me squirm in my seat.😖🤮🥴
@@EIRE55women sexuaIize men aII the time but it doesn't get called out
Ace Magic and all its other brands ought to be out of business! Thanks for continuing to expose this.
how can we know for sure that they dont have hardware level malware when they ship shit like this
Maybe don't hand wave malware like black sorcery and understand how malware works. Physical soc for malware can be physically seen if it is not a usb controller or audio controller. It will also require specialized drivers to be regularly reinstalled to function and every install is going to be a massive alert to the user if they don't spot the package auto installer first.
It's why it's a good idea to format the drive or even go as far as to replace the drive if your super paranoid when getting a new machine. As for this manufacturer and seller, that's bad, they need to do better.
In the U.S., has anybody who purchased one filed a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission?
A reason behind that other goofball criticizing your video is because he's the one possibly spreading malware onto these machines and you've exposed it to the world. This shows how you care about we consumers. Thanks for having our 6 Brian.
You're welcome mate
Well Brian yet another great tutorial/insight from yourself and as for me I do not like mini PC's as it is anyway preferring to stick to machines I can actually access to fit new hardware or download software from reputable sources. As I said yesterday I consider this whole situation is in my mind bordering on a criminal act namely that it is a way of those who do scam or steal personal details in order to obtain monetary gain - something that is all too prevalent in todays computing methods. How this company got into this situation too is so remiss/indicative of their incompetence or deliberate intent to produce their products that includes this malware.
Thanks for watching
Awesome video as usual. 👍
I don't care about any RUclips drama either, only the substance with facts about the viruses etc in the video.
Thank You for this info 🌟🌟🌟
You are so welcome
I used to watch holzman back in the day, don't know how he can try to defend this shady company rather than someone who exposed this malware.😢😢
Brian! I haven't got a clue who this guy is your talking about. I don't want to know him either from what you've said. He sounds jealous of your Honesty IMHO
I don't particularly care if we see your face or not, as long as you keep being. Honest, Helpful, Truthful, you are rich in wisdom, grace and guidance, so keep being You! 👍
Cheers for that mate
his channel is basically a shill for products especially mini pc. hours long sometimes
EVOTech was one of, if not the first RUclipsr to identify this mess with AceMagician PC's several weeks ago.
Apparently, it's not the only brand, either. I would really like to know how that came about in the first place. I wonder if the S1 was involved. I really like its LED system status display and it's tiny little window showing the illuminated MB is so reminiscent of the HP Firebird 802, which was the first thing I thought of when I first saw this. I thought this could be something I really enjoy having and could look back upon fondly years later... as is the case now with my Firebird. I should probably just get it back up and running again and be done with it.
Bless you for all of this... We need honest people to follow. I will NEVER buy a mini-pc now without reformatting/reinstalling the OS. THX
Don't blame you mate
Interesting stuff. It certainly pays to be vigilant when bringing any new tek into your home or business. Deffinitely having a core trusted support network of sites like yours is of paramount importance.
OneLove 💙
Yeah, this is a shady company. Bless up
Good video Brian ,some utubers just have to big of a head.Most people that buy computers don`t really know much about them other than just how to use them.They need all of the good advice they can get.Keep up the good work.Thanks.
Thanks!
Thanks for the donation 👍
I rarely watch "that clown" because I don't have enough free time to devote the typical 3 hours his streams run. It's amazing how much dead air there is even when running the play back later at 2X speed. (Chris Titus runs his recorded streams through software to eliminate dead air before posting to RUclips.) Most of his dead time is spent standing around waiting on contributions from his regulars who don't have anything better to do. A lady IT friend watched a couple streams with me and had an unflattering analogy which I won't repeat here. I watched a couple streams he did on Acronis backup/restore. One obvious restore scenario he really didn't adequately cover, but insisted the user was just being lazy if they tried to use that option. My friend's assessment was he's more of a hardware enthusiast/hobbyist who's weak on software, and probably wouldn't fit in as a worker bee in a today's corporate or government IT environment where the main focus is security and software maintenance and configuration in a heterogeneous linux server/windows PC network. In particular, he would either quickly learn to love bitlocker, or seek other employment.
I just bought a new mini-pc. Prior to even turning it on, I plan to remove the SSD with pre-installed windows, stick it into a USB adaptor and run a virus check. If it is free of malware I'll put the SSD back, boot windows and test again.
This is why i always recommend people do a clean install of windows any time they buy a PC.
I just watch today's new video from ETA PRIME channel on youtube about new pc he received from acemagic and he did not even mention about this problem. What a shame because I believe he is aware about this issue .
shill, probably been paid like the other guy
Shill simple as is
I was disappointed in eta after he made that video
@@Whit3WolfXArcadia not the first time sadly
I don't normally comment on youtube videos, but felt I needed to do so on here as you mentioned Carey Holzman, I found his channel about 8 years ago when I had thoughts about building my own PC, he inspired me to build my own PC rather that have it built for me and found his early videos infomative and easy to follow, I stopped subscribing to his channel a good while ago as he re uploaded old videos and he seemed in my eyes to go off the beaten track a little.
Hi Brian. What about drivers. Could they be infected too? I couldn't get drivers from Acemagic, but from the Amazon dealer, on a Google drive.
N1 Bri keep up the good work.
Bravo, Brian.
And tnx
You're welcome
🏆🙏🤗💙
Thank you for sharing
You are so welcome
I just found the same on one .I never went online and windows loaded for first time. And did not ask for MS account. Wonder if my logitech keyboard dongle is safe.now.
ETAPrime reviewed The Tank on his channel today. He didn't say that it was from AceMagic or addressed the malware issue. And during his gameplay review the afterburner displayed the CPU being one of AMDs new Ryzen 8000 series when the Tank he was supposedly reviewing has an Intel 12700 CPU. Anywho..... when I buy an AMR5 soon, if it has Google Chrome already preinstalled on it, I'll do a clean fresh Windows 11 install. These are still good quality PCs. Just some bad malware installed along with the OS .
Some reviewers just review and don't do any research. These things can happen, its not the reviewers fault.
Have one of those AMR5 since December. Found some suspicious files in C:\Windows\OsVer and C:\Recovery\OEM\OsVer that showed it has some worms and trojans. Deleted those, but guess make a clean install, propably with Linux. But Chrome was not preinstalled on mine
Damn, was going to buy one of these mini PCs. The one I did buy came with windows 11. Nothing else installed. But I stuck windows 10 on it straight away. Also testing linux on it.
Thank you for what you do.
My pleasure!
Build my own and always run a full scan while finished then make a redo image.
this is the reason i install a new copy of window on any prebuild pc i buy
hi Brain.
it is a shame to see more products from this company having malware and other nasty trojans in the operating system, They are going to have to do a great deal to get consumer confidence back. Otherwise good bye ace magic!!
The problem with manufacturers like this one, is that they often just change their brand name and carry on regardless.
Junk, there's plenty more out there worthy of our money.
I agree
That brand is definitely tarnished
For sure and rightly so.
I bought a mini PC a few days ago and was setting it up today when I recalled watching this video Brian. Looked in the same folder you show in this video and there they were! Uploaded both to virustotal and both got red flags. Not sure if a wipe and clean install will cure it or should I send it back and be done? The brand is on Amazon UK with the title - NiPoGi Mini PC Ν100 with WiFi 6, Mini Business PC 16GB RAM 1TB M.2 SSD, Intel Alder Lake-Ν100 (Beats Ν5095, up to 3.4GHz，4C/4T), Mini Computer Support 2.5" SATA SSD, Bluetooth5.2, Dual HDMI Display
I unfortunately purchased one of the Redline infected AD08 mini pc in January from Amazon, I replaced the SSD and installed a Retail copy of WIN11Pro. But now I'm concerned if there may be a Logo Virus on its AMI motherboard, has anybody checked for this ?
If i were to purchase new or used from online companies, i would choose barebones and put in my own NVME and Ram.
This is the correct answer. If you can’t install your own, then this isn’t the tech for you and dude you’re getting a Dell.
@@The_10th_Man
I put new SSD , fresh OS and RAM in my Dell though.
@@TheAgentAssassin I bought a ASUS laptop from Bestbuy and still swapped out the NVMe drive in it, it's just what i like to do.
I bought minisforum mini pc from Amazon and don’t have a virus after scanned serval times . It mean good pc if lucky buy the mini pc .
minisforum do some nice mini pcs
More good info thanks.
Glad it was helpful!
Ty so much you save me a headache
You're welcome
So I had to look this reviewer up because some how I have managed to miss all of his content over the years and just to better understand the context of your video.
I am kinda impressed that he has the audacity to play this fiasco down and horrified that he actually is playing this fiasco down in the way that he is doing.
I find it a little concerning that he chose to try and define the difference between Virus, Malware and Spyware and then call it Spyware and then had the audacity to double down on it by saying something to the effect of that Spyware is not that bad..... because stealing peoples data is never bad and can not be used for nefarious reason eh? I think not.
Just because the guy knows the difference between a Virus, Malware and Spyware does not make him right to call out the journalist because they did not know any better and in reality the journalist was not wrong to call it a Virus because all they was doing is referring to it with the most well known buzzword and this is what the vast majority of the population who do not know the the difference between them would use anyway.
As a "tech expert" he should know this and accept it at face value anyway.
What I did notice is that for a "tech expert" he is not exactly "tech savvy" given that it looks like to me that he has given everyone in his live chat who I assume are channel members the moderator privilege on his live streams.
While moderator privileges on RUclips are not that great or that powerful (been a long time since I looked at them) this is not a good idea to begin with as it gives all of those people to kick/ban people from that chat if I recall and RUclips advise against handing out moderator privliges so easily anyway.
People never use this as some sort of recognition for your loyal members as there is a system in place for this reason that is the membership to begin with and this is a dumb thing to do anyway.
I would have left this comment on his video but to be honest he is not deserving of the engagement points that the algorithm factors in from comment engagement and is better suited by adding the comment here as Britec is more deserving of benefiting from the engagement the algorithm factors in.
I know, its ridicules to think he can pass off password stealer, keyloggers and backdoor rootkits, goes to show how out of touch he is with tech. Also loves to blow his own trumpet while trash talking other people.
I have a BeeLink, do you know if this company has malware installed on its mini PCs?
So far, not. Beelink and Minisforum are the more reputable vendors in this space (still coming from China....but what doesn't?)
Absolutely right Brian!
Carey H is such a clown, banned me for correcting him when he made a complete Cods of technically describing some aspect of a build he was doing. It's so long ago that I've forgotten what it was! 😅.
His defence of the supplier was so egregious, obviously driven by cash and ego.
Keep up the great reviews.
More than likely been paid, he's a shill for Acemagic. I have had nothing to do with him, but he loves his little dig now and then about me. I don't watch him, but some people watch him and me and sent me a link.
nice work thank you
Can't bitdefender stop the malware?
Thank you for the info. I will definitely stay away from that company.
You and me both!
I'd be a little wary of just doing a clean Windows install because if they are so bad with their OS image hygiene, is it possible that there's a UEFI malware in there too. If at all possible, I'd reflash the BIOS with the latest version available from the motherboard manufacturer before reinstalling Windows. That or just return the thing for a refund. Trust is utterly broken at that point I'd say.
i bought one, downloaded windows on hard drive, reinstalled clean version; now it has no wifi drivers only ethernet. am returning it and instead will windows scan it and uninstall chrome and reinstall. how to check if there is uefi malware?
please tell me how to check and remove those. I am using ACE MAGICIAN mini pc.
Please help
This just gives me more reason to do research on lesser known mini-PC manufacturers. What bothers me the most is Carey Holzman doing a THREE-HOUR LONG STREAM, DEFENDING a malware-ridden product is WORRYING. I am sorry that Carey Holzman was trying to blast you and others on RUclips for a simple, honest review and warning potential buyers from buying something that would cause potential identity theft. I won't give into it either, but only because there's more to life than being a salty keyboard warrior who picks fights with honest people.
I would not expect anything less from him.
If I delete the folder directly, do I solve the problem?
Well, now they have spoken out Brian, this could be the publicity they are looking for, and part of me hopes they do well to recover.
GEEKOM BETTER THAN THIS; BRIAN YOU DID AMAZING RECOMMENDED👍👍👍
I got a new Geekom video coming soon
@@Britec09 good !!
I would go a step further and suggest the BIOS needs checking.
Probably really hard to find a BIOS for that machine
Do you mean Windows? Or some other malware/spyware?
This machines windows 11 comes complete with Malware. They’ve even admitted it on their website and provide a link in their apology to do a fresh install.
Could malware be on even more of their products?
Its in a number of there mini pcs
The kamrui gk3 plus I received from the same company in November had two malwares on it too. Redline and something in synaptics driver.
Someone had to install that right ???
Yes, but on a large scale. And if you consider how many of these PCs have contact with a network...
Are Geekom good mini pcs?
I have a review coming
Thanks@@Britec09
Thank you.@@Britec09
This *had* to happen ... there was no question of "if" it was always about "When?"
very important questiom, why do you have ms store pinned to the taskbar
nah btw kinda insane
Carey Holzman is still telling people there is no problem with what he called the "supposed malware", a real kitchen sink drama including him scrubbing comments.
Just a hint. Yesterday I fiddled around with my new just delivered "Acemagic AM06 Pro AMD Ryzen Mini PC" and I tested the preinstalled Windows 11. Defender was disabled and could not be enabled. I was not main root. Another user is. Checked the system with different AVs but no hit, but the hint that there are a lot of file under /user/share/ like "user.db" and some other files cannot be accessed by the AV. In some Minutes another one will arrive. I am seriously shocked what they doing here.
I already wiped the one from yesterday, bc I do not use windows at all, but wow! I am shocked.
I bought a Beelink Sc 7 mini pc before Christmas but haven't used it yet. Was going to use it for Batocera. Will it be safe to do so. Many thanks
I assume you are installing Batocera yourself and the system does not come preinstalled with it? I say this as I am not 100% certain that any mini PC's come with Batocera anyway and given how many mini PC's there are these days and how flooded that market is it is easy to miss one that might lol
Anyway if you are installing it yourself then there should not be any safety issues for you as long as you get the installer from the official Batocera source.
@@Nodster Yes I would use another hard drive with Batocera on it and change the bios on the mini pc
Say you did a clean install on one of these PCs what about the drivers for say the RGB Are they safe?
I don't think
I would trust them myself
I think the why the reason why these pc sell well is they are reasonably priced and a lot people are not that tech savvy
It's bad enough getting Windows to correctly find drivers for a new PC, but that dial feature on the Acemagic is software based, isn't it? Virtually impossible to make use of the features on the PC without downloading more dodgy files.
I tend to buy Barebone mini PCs but it's getting harder to get drivers from AMD and Intel. Not sure if manufacturers change the signatures to force you to use their downloads
Damn i buying NiPoGi Mini PC ... Should i complet delete and new install win 11 ? Sry english:)
$60 coupon to buy another of their products is the height of stupidity. The consumers have lost ALL TRUST in that company's products and won't buy them any more, so the coupon is worthless.
The one arguing faceless channels aren't trust worthy are deflecting from their own UNtrustworthiness. It doesn't matter whether you show your face or not, what matters is the information provided truthful. The integrity of this channel has NEVER been in question to me! As opposed to others, especially one that uploaded a video TODAY recommending another one of these PC's, and showing benchmarks that show different hardware than what's supposed to be in the PC, their integrity is gone along with this company's.
I just got an email from the email address I used to ask them about the malware offering me one of their other mini pc's for FREE once I left it a 5 star review with pictures and video. So that is attempted review manipulation. LOLOLOLOL You can't make this stuff up hahahahaha. Of course I'm not going to go for it, I'm not that slimy. I find it endlessly entertaining though.
I need help I tried to change operating data to a new SSD using a prior one of your videos and mine came out a bit different and my system won’t boot can you help me
Carey use to be a good guy. But the last 2-3 years he has gotten very high horsed and sometimes just plain MEAN. I unsubed from him a few months ago when he snapped at a simple question. He loves him big donors and paid members, but could care less about the rest. IMO Thx for sharing
Is Ace Magician the same as Ace Magic? I have an Ace Magician.
Same
Yes they are the same
@@Britec09Is my Nipogi AM08PRO the same too? How would I go about a clean windows install as it came loaded with W11 Pro? Would I have to pay for a new licence? I have no experience of Linux but would that be a better option? Thanks
why would any company do this, no onee will buy their products now
I would certainly not buy any of them
Bad stuff.
It sure is
ETA Prime is either doing it for one or both things the money from being an affiliate, and or to proud to admit he is wrong for promoting it. For prides sake obstinately taking it personal and carrying the ball for the bad guys because of ego. I personally think it's both dollar for pound.
Water off a ducks back they're making bank sitting at home reviewing endless boxes of pap being sent on daily basis.
What a flippin' joke!!! Might as well ship without an SSD so you can put your own SSD in there!!! 😬🙄
You're better off buying an off-lease corporate USFF like HP or Lenovo and add in your own RAM & SSD.
Its a serious crime what they are doing
I never trust the original OS on anything and always reinstall.
i purchased a mini PC to use as a announcement/news board and the original installed copy had cracked software, firewall was turned off, Windows defender was off, windows update was disabled and the UAC was disabled. safe to say I wiped that OS
Besides the malware it is just so damn ugly, no way will I ever have something this horribly designed on my desk.
A free download of a supposedly clean version of the OS, along with a $60.00 rebate? Talk about "least possible effort". That's going to be no comfort whatsoever to anybody whose banking/crypto/credit information was stolen, much less used.
I've avoided Cary for years, he is completely toxic and non stop BS.
I know mate.
Solution: build your own PC
I don't need to see your face Brian to accept your advice. I don't agree with everything you say in every video you make, but I know a bullshitter when I hear one. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THEM. I would never buy a pre installed system for the very reasons you give in this video. IF the machine can be wiped easily and you can add your own system it's a slightly better option, but some of these micro PC's are difficult if not impossible to wipe the storage system on. It does help having people like yourself, with VERY GOOD knowledge about this stuff, doing these reviews in an unbiased manner, I would rather KNOW before I spend cent one on anything, that I'm getting something decent, not just a spyware filled money generator.
Isn't it funny how these micro PC's come on the market, full of hype, and then disappear a few weeks later after some crappy reviews. It says a LOT about shady practices. Oh sorry, we sold you a spyware box..?? Oop's. we better disappear and come back with another product with the same issue's after the smoke clears a little....
Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I don't expect you to agree with me on everything, that is perfectly fine by me. Thanks for watching and the continued support.
I was once subscribed to Holtzman's channel, but not too long afterward felt I had to unsubscribe. He has an arrogant, impatient attitude that shocked me. Yes, he often knows his stuff, but he has a nasty streak to him that left a bad taste in my mouth. He's the only RUclipsr I've ever subbed to that I had to unsub.
Imagine blaming your supplier for the OS malware, meaning its pirated so we are not getting it direct from MS, how else do you think they sell these so cheap? It's actually strange that countries have laws against counterfeit items that get seized/destroyed but don't check seized/destroy these cheap Chinese imported PC's for counterfeit WinOS.
Honestly I rather install Linux on that device since you do not need to buy a os licence like Microsoft. If I was a company making the pc cheap enough to make a profit why not putting a os at all let the purachser buy or install their own os of choice then agian the normies wanted windows and too uneducated how to use Linux since more free than proprietary crap coming out form MS
Check specs, yup comes with windows 11
Yeah sure, lots of "mini pc's" are full if this sort of 'malware' what do you think they are so cheap? You have promoted to buy them on your own channel (LOTS of times) at least you can admit that you made a mistake for some of these devices (i've gotten sick of all the mini pc reviews on several channels)
If you grab the replacement OS from Microsoft it may not activate because these Chinese mini-PCs use non-genuine copies of Windows.
CHINESE