I never was able to beat this mission when I was a kid; I just remembered that it was the "level with the armed civilians" and thought it was a fun idea to try to beat it. Years later, I'd give this level a shot and figured it'd be time to finish off these POS but man, I did not expect the scene where the rebels are begging you to spare the women and children. I just wiped out the convoy as payback, but when the message pops out "Help us please! They are killing kids. Please, we cannot stop them", I can't help but feel like a complete asshole. Got to say, the developers really did a good job with the "plots" in Red Alert, it's kind of hard to play this mission again.
If you murder those civilians evacuating on trucks, you have to finish the rest of the mission by killing everything else. If you let them survive and escape, Stalin's elite guard will arrive and proceed to steamroll both you and the revolutionists. But if you can destroy Stalin's forces, you win (wiping out the the revolutionists is no longer a requirement for victory).
Well to be fair, they really used the gamut of colors here. There's TWO Allies here (both blue and lime green), and there's Stalin's Elite Guard which use that rusty color. Orange is usually 'reserved' as a Soviet alt color on missions, and that rust is also, so it would be odd for the civilian enemies to be using it. If you look on the minimap, civilians usually are gold.
@@IconOfSin24148 I thought they were white on the map. Oh well, the Soviets did end up being Nod after Tiberium started sprouting around the world so fighting GDI as the Soviets isn't so far off
If you spare them, Stalin's personal army will proceed to roll in and kill both the rebels and your forces. ...it's actually an easier way to win the mission because you don't need to sweep the map - apparently, eliminating Stalin's army nets you a victory for some reason!
Playing this mission back when I was a kid, I didn't really understand what went on with this mission. I wasn't an aggressive player I liked to sit back and build up for a long time before doing anything so I usually ended up "sparing" the women and children by complete accident. After that, Stalin's army comes along and runs straight into a wall of Tesla Coil and mammoth tanks and I win.
The implication is that you and your forces have committed treason as you didn't carry your orders out because of mercy, and therefore, Stalin's personal Guards unit is coming in to destroy you, and the rebels. It probably would have made more sense if the mission auto-allied you with the remaining Grunyev forces.
@@Chris-or8ky Same. After my brother and I went through this level a few times, we just thought the victory condition was to hold out from the waves of dangerous Civilians and then defeat the Soviet forces coming in. It was only when I wanted to see what the full Allied tech tree could provide when mixed with Soviet forces did I discover that destroying a bunch of trucks led to continuing the mission without the Elite Guard dropping in. Then I captured an Allied Construction Yard and got excited that I could build fake structures since most Allied levels didn't provide such tech.
I can understand the poor defenseless peasants actually being armed and organized, but how in the world could they have gotten their hands on Gap Generators and an Iron Curtain?
The whole region is in open revolt, so even the local Soviet forces defected. As for the Gap Generator and the various Allied stuff, the Allies are helping them out. That green construction yard in the corner is the Allies, and they'll build a naval yard and cruisers eventually.
Though just a theory, this is a reference to GDI's existence around 40-50 years from now. The Giant Ants mission did the same thing since you used a gold-colored army that used an amalgamation of Allied and Soviet tech.
Unsure if it would save time, because it's money+time to get them, but three Mad Tanks can blow up the majority of the south base including the Con Yard down there, while you're attacking north base (like in your Deus Ex Aftermath video) if you deploy them just to the east of the entrance river.
Maybe because you squashed out the traitors and defectors from the Soviet Union? I don't know why they use Stalin's personal army color, though. Could have used orange instead
Those who dislike will also go towards examples given by the state. By the way, people in America are now saying that THIS is the optimal form of government, remember that
@@RareInspo a message appears in the top left saying they're evacuating women and children from the combat zone and ask you to spare them. If you don't, mission continues as normal. If you let them go, Stalins Personal Guard enter and steam roll the Civs and then you.
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Ha Ha love that rebel with the nuke. Trying to save the village from your wrath but he ends up destroying half of it :D
Damocles178 haha good point
He only did what he thought was right
@@kamikaze4172because even if the village was spared, Stalin's forces would have killed them all.
I never was able to beat this mission when I was a kid; I just remembered that it was the "level with the armed civilians" and thought it was a fun idea to try to beat it. Years later, I'd give this level a shot and figured it'd be time to finish off these POS but man, I did not expect the scene where the rebels are begging you to spare the women and children. I just wiped out the convoy as payback, but when the message pops out "Help us please! They are killing kids. Please, we cannot stop them", I can't help but feel like a complete asshole. Got to say, the developers really did a good job with the "plots" in Red Alert, it's kind of hard to play this mission again.
If you murder those civilians evacuating on trucks, you have to finish the rest of the mission by killing everything else. If you let them survive and escape, Stalin's elite guard will arrive and proceed to steamroll both you and the revolutionists. But if you can destroy Stalin's forces, you win (wiping out the the revolutionists is no longer a requirement for victory).
When I first played this, I thought I was fighting GDI because of the gold-colored units.
The Ugly Barnacle also unit composition
Well to be fair, they really used the gamut of colors here. There's TWO Allies here (both blue and lime green), and there's Stalin's Elite Guard which use that rusty color. Orange is usually 'reserved' as a Soviet alt color on missions, and that rust is also, so it would be odd for the civilian enemies to be using it. If you look on the minimap, civilians usually are gold.
@@IconOfSin24148 I thought they were white on the map. Oh well, the Soviets did end up being Nod after Tiberium started sprouting around the world so fighting GDI as the Soviets isn't so far off
I thought that was tan not gold
Grunyev civilian: Please spare the women and children!
DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE FACE OF MERCY??
If you spare them, Stalin's personal army will proceed to roll in and kill both the rebels and your forces.
...it's actually an easier way to win the mission because you don't need to sweep the map - apparently, eliminating Stalin's army nets you a victory for some reason!
Playing this mission back when I was a kid, I didn't really understand what went on with this mission. I wasn't an aggressive player I liked to sit back and build up for a long time before doing anything so I usually ended up "sparing" the women and children by complete accident. After that, Stalin's army comes along and runs straight into a wall of Tesla Coil and mammoth tanks and I win.
The implication is that you and your forces have committed treason as you didn't carry your orders out because of mercy, and therefore, Stalin's personal Guards unit is coming in to destroy you, and the rebels.
It probably would have made more sense if the mission auto-allied you with the remaining Grunyev forces.
@@IconOfSin24148 It could be possible just in map's config add a script which automatically makes Grunyev forces your allies if you spare them
@@Chris-or8ky
Same. After my brother and I went through this level a few times, we just thought the victory condition was to hold out from the waves of dangerous Civilians and then defeat the Soviet forces coming in.
It was only when I wanted to see what the full Allied tech tree could provide when mixed with Soviet forces did I discover that destroying a bunch of trucks led to continuing the mission without the Elite Guard dropping in. Then I captured an Allied Construction Yard and got excited that I could build fake structures since most Allied levels didn't provide such tech.
Really great. This speedrun makes the mission look easy although it's pretty hard in fact even on normal difficulty level.
+bormisha Most missions become easy when you master money management, Q and tank shifting :)
I can understand the poor defenseless peasants actually being armed and organized, but how in the world could they have gotten their hands on Gap Generators and an Iron Curtain?
The whole region is in open revolt, so even the local Soviet forces defected. As for the Gap Generator and the various Allied stuff, the Allies are helping them out. That green construction yard in the corner is the Allies, and they'll build a naval yard and cruisers eventually.
That's your first question and not "where did that one civilian get a nuke and where was he storing it?"
Though just a theory, this is a reference to GDI's existence around 40-50 years from now. The Giant Ants mission did the same thing since you used a gold-colored army that used an amalgamation of Allied and Soviet tech.
@@kamikaze4172 Arms Dealers.
@@LordOfGilneas That only answers one question, though
It would be nice if you built a radar dome so your viewers could see the map your on.
When you forget to target the power plants to take the tesla coils offline.
I always spare the women and children. X3
When I was a kid I ended up sparing them cos I couldn’t reach the trucks in time xD
Now we need a 東方 PoFV music swap to make things more exciting ;)
Unsure if it would save time, because it's money+time to get them, but three Mad Tanks can blow up the majority of the south base including the Con Yard down there, while you're attacking north base (like in your Deus Ex Aftermath video) if you deploy them just to the east of the entrance river.
[cough cough] Hit the civilian power plants with V2 rockets before assaulting the base, and you'll take much less casualties!
You must make example that own troops are willing to give life to prove point, Comrade
I wonder why we completed mission if we eliminate the "Stalin's personal guard".
Maybe because you squashed out the traitors and defectors from the Soviet Union? I don't know why they use Stalin's personal army color, though. Could have used orange instead
The implication is that you're a rebel now too. You failed to follow orders, so you too are put on the death list.
Soviet Arsenal vs joint allied soviet army and stalins elite guard
Those who dislike will also go towards examples given by the state. By the way, people in America are now saying that THIS is the optimal form of government, remember that
why destroy the tree?
So the refinery fits in
It is capitalist tree in open revolution against Great Sovjet Supremacy, comrade.
@@calanon534 Trees are capitalists? 🌳 = 💵Mind blown. O_o
the browns in this always confused me. they would just show up and suddenly "mission accomplished". kinda lame
It's a trigger for the mission. If you let the trucks escape they enter and attack you and the civillians for letting them go.
@@TheKalZul interesting. which trucks are those? i wanna try make it happen again
@@RareInspo a message appears in the top left saying they're evacuating women and children from the combat zone and ask you to spare them. If you don't, mission continues as normal. If you let them go, Stalins Personal Guard enter and steam roll the Civs and then you.
Think of the children
Need to replace "Grunyev privince" with "Ukraine".
Ukraine was part of Soviet forces in RA1
Gdi intruding