Thank you for this, the in depth explanation of why keqing's synergy with fischl was great. It clears up the misconception that this (Keqging, Fish, Kazuha, DMC) is only good because of Fischl's existence, but in reality, Keqing's fast attacks and Fast Electro application works wonders with Fish's A4 Passive. Nice Vid
It's mainly early TC's and sheet/sim that are responsible for it. Sim even shows that in aggravate Raiden Fischl does more than Raiden too. Truth is when AoE is counted Fischl provides near to zero contribution and it's mostly Keqing and Kazuha that holds off the damage. Keqing damage in aggravate isn't negligeable, she easily outscale Fischl hard in Primary Target even when given Fischl AoE scaling. Speedrunners even found out that using Sara instead of Fischl greatly increase the frontloading power of the team for fast clear and most Keqing in spiral abyss are highly invested. Which is another thing KQM standard doesn't take into account. Most people are at low or mid investment but most of the people PLAYING SPIRAL ABYSS are highly invested so the dps results never describe it for the majority of the hardcore actually. Keqing-Fischl is a lot like Childe-XL where people thing the 4* does it all when it's actually a collaborative effort. And the higher the investment the higher the 5* actually outscale the 4* and contribute much more in the team damage.
@@dendenmushi9714 I seeee , well yeahyeah, All good. Good point with Childe+Xiangling, won't find any better driver for xiangling, same goes for Keqing and Fischl.
This is very helpful as new player that pulled Keqing and Sucrose. I'm hoping to get Nahida in the next patch and pick up fischl or at least some decent electro support. I was doing the reactions completely wrong so this rotation guide is hugely appreciated
I am a keqing main. I can relate to her so much, in so many aspects. Her design reminds me of one of my old characters and brings back so many memories. I would go through hell for this woman. Thank you SO much for this guide! as a dedicated f2p keqing main, I'm always looking for ways to make her better, and this channel is one of the best I've seen.
Hiiii i just want to say thank you!! I watched this vid a few days ago and noticed your instructor collei build and I just finished my abyss run with full 36 stars with a lvl 21 collei on my bloom team😭 Shes really the mvp there, giving em to barbara while being a battery for dendro mc Before this i was struggling a lot on 12-3-2 since my national team is not doing enough aoe damage (seeing xingqiu killing the big rifthounds one by one is just pure pain) and my freeze team doesnt freeze the rifthounds long enough (mona only can do so much) and my yoimiya and tighnari team is simply out of the question (almost no aoe at all lol) Thank you for showing me a way that i finally can use my benched nilou🥹
I think venti is also a good sub dps and sp here whenever you need to face a group of enemies, when his burst apply electro, he can also triggers alot of aggravate, my venti and Shinobu destroy much of enemies in the first half with their burst before my keqing go.
I came back from a pause and I want to thank you for you vid.. extremely informative! I always loved Keqing, but my main group is Ganyu melt due to her former damage. Now I'm investing in team Keqing and loving it.
i hate when ppl say keqing just a fischl driver. if it were not keqing, fischl a4 would be somewhat useless. in fact, keqing doesnt need fischl, fischl needs her
It's basically a mutual relationship. In aggravate teams Keqing can deal decent damage on her own, while Fischl can too. However, put them together and BOOM. They both compliment each other's kit quite well in aggravate teams. They aren't useless without the other, it's just that they get way better when put together.
It’s a great video. Here’s my footnotes on some parts of it: Elegy for the End grants 100 EM and 20% ATK While C6 Dendro Traveler grants 60 EM and 12% Elemental DMG Bonus ( + 12% Dendro DMG Bonus ) While 60 is inferior to 100, 20% ATK is also inferior to 12% Elemental DMG Not to mention that the Elegy has a 8s CD while C6 Traveler’s Burst’s CD is 5s. There’s also the fact that C6 Dendro Traveler also becomes a Sub DPS that will increase the overall DMG of the team, as their burst last 15s and has higher multipliers ( 80% lv 1 ) as opposed to Collei’s 6s and lower multipliers ( 43% lv 1 ), which far compensates the 40 EM difference. Dendro Traveler’s 80 Energy Cost is overstated when it comes to Aggravate. The quicken aura lasts for 10s, so you don’t need Raiden Shogun levels of ER. Batteries or even just Favonius weapons for other characters is enough to have it back relatively quick with 145-160 ER Raiden Shogun for example greatly reduces their need for Energy. Even more so if there’s a teammate with a Favonius weapon. Fischl is also a good alternative, which goes perfect for a Keqing team. This is far more realistic for a Free to Play player to achieve than 220 ER Traveler ( from my personal experience, it’s not easy to reach ). Also, I would recommend to build Dendro Traveler with DPS in mind to make full use of their C6. Priority of stats would be: Crit Stats > ATK >/= ER > EM. EM can be obtained through various means ( like Sucrose, Kazuha, and C6 Diona ), so it’s less important. ER between 145 and 160 should be enough, especially in the presence of a battery or Favonius wielding characters. Noblesse Oblige is a good set for this build, as it also grants a 20% ATK buff to the team. Raiden’s set is also good to help with the Traveler’s personal ER, so it’s easier to focus on other sub stats.
As I saw the video title changed. I was thought as only Keqing's raw damage instead of her own team comps. That makes of Keqing having so much of rivals in terms of damage number reasons.
from my own experiences kazuha doesnt really struggle with energy problems, mine has only 127% ER and he always has his burst on after a rotation just because of how much energy the team generates and yes, kuki shinobu works in the team if you need a healer.
@@joey_f4ke238 that is true but im talking about keqing team specifically sure if we are doing 2 teams then sacrificing kuki shinobu on a simple aggravate team is not a fair trade and the same goes for kazuha
That ending though. 😮 Nice vid. Choose her for our free 5* on the update. Zero regrets. Use HoD R5 on her but, struggle w the HP. Got Iron Sting @ R1, L40 ... so, might make the switch. Haven't grinded that Inazuma Sword (whose name I will NEVER memorize 😂). That ending. She is SO FUN to play.
Excelente video. Tenía dudas con Hakushin. Lo tengo R5 y lo probé hace tiempo en Sacarosa pero no estaba segura si la pasiva funcionaba estando el pj dentro o fuera del campo. Me quedo más claro. Gracias.
I have to admit i'm guilty of valuing the appearance of a weapon a liiitle bit too much but for me the only two options for keqing are amenoma and mistsplitter. I have used harbinger but it looked pretty bad and amenoma had similar dmg (plus it makes energy even less of an issue for her), currently pulling for mistsplitter since it not only looks amazing on her but also the passive seems tailor made for her (not surprising since she is very similar to ayaka in the way they scale and deal dmg)
i've tried your Lynette + kirara comp, its really hard in first half😅, im amazed that you can manage to use that team to beat abyss. ig i'll just wait for next reset to see if i can do that too😁👍
I know im 4 months late but 1:23 is quite confusing. So R5 Iron Sting is equal to an R3 Lion's Roar at 0 EM, but 250 EM or more makes it worse and is only equal to at R1 Lions Roar? So overall Lion's Roar is better so long as you have 250+ EM?
Thank u 🙏🏾 i understand now that I can very much play keqing aggravate without fischl. What make fischl so good in this team are the ability that keqing has to trigger her A4 passive meaning that fischl is here as a sub dps for keqing to maximize the overall damage as she is the best option FOR keqing I’ll try to get her but for now I will use her with beidou cause I still feel like keqing is very good at aggravate and I also just love her. Also I did a test with her at level 70 and she can keep up with my higher invested dps just because of how good aggravate is
the only thing this team lag is healer, i mean we all know that fischl Q doesnt anything so she is paper thick and can be one shot most of the times... i guess double dendro with yaoyao or upcoming baizhu could replace anemo unit just sake of flexibility edit: i completely forgot that jean and sayu exists lmaoo so yeah maybe they can fulfill that roll of vv shred and healing
Yaoyao is fine as a single dendro for aggravate since the aura stays on the enemy without having to constantly apply dendro and her downtime is like 2 sec on the bunny so it works just fine, also makes easy to maintain full hp for harbinger of dawn in case you use that and she can use the tenacity set for extra hp and atk bonus for the party. Also her burst does kinda work with oz so you can use that too to fill her downtime if you feel like it, but it's more like emergency healing
I am new to this game, I played wuwa and it was quite simple and eash to farm game with good and fast combat but genshin is not hard but the artifact farming is quite annoying and my built doesn't deal damage
Really good video, it was quite detailed. Can you also show builds in your next piece of content, i recently got Keqing and my build though not complete is still quite good for f2p player , but i think i need more er.
im not a keqing user but I dont have any electro dps unit, just my beidou that I use as a dps, on this abyss I need more than just one good electro unit, tysm!
5:28 technically if youre gonna run fischl with keqing isnt farming thundersoother easier?? cuz in one domain you get artifacts for both her and keqing (thundering fury)
btw i have r1 amos and r2 stringless, which one is better... since its a reaction based team i think stringless em may be better but i dont wanna waste my ownerless amos
Is yaoyao a good choice on this team ? the heal will makes this more confortable to play for me but anyway this is a great video thx a lot ! EDIT: I answered my own question by looking at your yaoyao guide lmao thx again
can you do/do you have a comparison to blacksword? i know this is f2p channel, but im really curious abotu this. nobody actually compares blacksword with lions roar :(
I don't have Black Sword but it should be on par with Lion's Roar at same refinement. Lion's Roar is slightly better if you managed to get really good artifacts.
@@rayyar8158 What is your AR now? I prolly will replace Lisa with Barbara for heal and hydro application. Electro-charged and hyperbloom are OP at low AR. If you have Toukabou Shigure from the previous patch, you can consider building that weapon. Otherwise, just use R1 Iron Sting unless you have better weapons like Jade Cutter, Mistsplitter etc.
@@f2pkeqing currently at AR 34, my keqing is using the Iron Sting but idk what artifact my team should use. Right now im just using random artifacts. (sorry bad grammar)
Great vid. I had always wondered what's the optimized rotation of Keqing. Is 4-piece-Thundersoother the best artifact set for Fischl in Nahida hyperbloom team as well?
I have jade cutter is it alright? Can i replace sucrose amd kazu for venti i dont have him and 70lvl sucro Can i replace favonius sword with amenoma? On traveler
i like the video brotha i have some questions: 1. is it viable to use yae instead of fischl in this comp? how big of a damage loss is it? (edit: i also have a raiden and a beidou i could use here, do you think either of those would be better than yae?) 2. if jean is used instead of kazuha/sucrose, what sort of rotation would you recommend? or would you not recommend doing that at all? ps: my fischl is c0, jean is c3, if that matters
1. Its viable to replace Fischl with another off-field DPS like Yae, Beidou etc. But I don't have Yae so I can't say much about the DPS loss or how she compares with the other off-field electro DPS. 2. You can use Jean if you need a healer. But there is already a Dendro healer/shielder in the game so you're better off using Kazuha or Sucrose instead. Their damage bonus/EM bonus passive is far too valuable to be ignored.
@@f2pkeqing i see, thanks for the reply. unfortunately a problem i have is that i just recently came back to the game so i don’t have any dendro healer/shielder, hopefully i can pull a kirara or yaoyao, but i think i will use jean in the meantime since i have her built already, then if i get a dendro healer i can use my sucrose for better damage do you have any experience using jean in this team? i am wondering about what sort of rotation to do, since her skill pushes enemies away it might be a bit awkward
@@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713 Nope, I don't have Jean on my main account. The rotation is probably like: Fischl's Oz -> Jean -> Dendro -> Keqing -> Repeat
I'm doubting about my Anemo slot a lot, I have C3 Sucrose and C0 Kazuha, and I have two teams, Ayaka, Mona, Diona and Keqing, Yaoyao, Fischl, I need to put each one in each team, so I was wondering what was the best option, I did a lot of research and it seems like Kazuha only at c2 boosts EM, also he has a "burst" / quick swap playstyle, Sucrose has the only advantage of Swirling with NA, but aggravate seems super quick swap and not a lot of field time for the anemo, I saw a lot of videos and when people use Sucrose they don't even use her ult most of the time, so I'm in big doubt. I just got to the conclusion that Sucrose at C2, boosts more elemental damage than Kazuha at C0, so Kazuha should go to freeze team because it boosts atk, and Sucrose with Hakushin hopefully will match the damage (although her CC is not as good), is that conclusion correct? or it should be the other way around? tldr: can't decide between Sucrose and Kazuha
I believe when Nahida arrives, she will be able to equip hakusin ring along with dendro application and em buffer, so Keqing, Fischl, Nahida and Kazuha will be the final team until we get a dendro healer prolly Baizhu. Btw Great video!
I dunno. I don't think Baizhu will outweight Nahida's damage and buff contribution. It would be nice for casual but for hardcore that can run healerless like the poster, it would result in DPS loss. We're never getting another Bennett both a buffer and healer consolidating both offense and defense. On top of that Nahida's cons are so good for her too.
@@dendenmushi9714 A team without some sort of survivality still feels incomplete as an overall team comp. If they bring rifthounds back in the abyss, you wont be able to run this team without a healer. Whether or not Baizhu outweighs Nahida's dmg and buff contribution, it has still to be seen in near future when he arrives. Nahida's burst which buffs em is kinda eh tbh, it does no dmg, takes 2 secs to cast, it might not be even worth to cast her burst in some situations. Baizhu, as far as we know is also a dendro catalyst user, and if he turns out to be healer, thats already great considering he can equip Hakusin ring plus heal, who knows, he could be broken.
@@arigatameiwaku Tried and tested Jean/Sayu in that team many times. Even though they have healing, they are just bad. There's no grouping in the team and their er generation sucks. Kazuha can almost double Keqing's dmg and has perfect synergy with Keqing. Kazuha also has very good personal dmg since his swirls and electro absorbed dmg can also aggravate. Boosting Keqing and fischl with Kazuha/Sucrose for huge amounts of aggravate dmg in a quick window of time is what makes Kazuha/Sucrose a great pair for that team. Jean/Sayu pales in comparison to Kazuha/Sucrose to a point that you would clear the floor 2x or even 3x slower with them. Dendro healer will be much more prefered than anemo healers like Jean/Sayu since you will not lose grouping and huge dmg buffer like Kazuha in the team. Also you really think simply putting Keqing and Fischl does huge amount of dmg? They don't. Most of the dps/sub dps units require buffers to do dmg and aggravate reaction happens to recieve huge boost from dmg bonus buffer.
@@arigatameiwaku So you are just not gonna use that team on first half or multiple enemies because you have degraded your team for comfort where you now lose grouping and dmg buffer plus smoother rotation. Yeah, nice argument lol. Stop coping with Jean/Sayu. They are just very bad for that team. I don't recommend them ever as a long time Keqing main. If you only want to use that team in single target, I recommend Zhongli more than Jean/Sayu. You will have much better time fighting bosses with a shield than possibly getting slapped around or one shotted. But ofcourse, you can use whatever you feel like but there are much better options than Jean/Sayu. Their healing are just not enough contribution to that team.
@@arigatameiwaku Seems like someone has not pulled Kazuha. If you had Kazuha, you would know that he is a crucial unit of Keqing team long before dendro arrived and he still is. Like I said Zhongli is a better unit if you are only planing to use aggravate Keqing in single target or bosses, especially Zhongli with archaic petra, its very reliable for that team. Jean/Sayu is usable if you dont have Kazuha/Sucrose/Zhongli. They are just not that good.
@@f2pkeqing thank yooou! Zhong s already built so i ll go for him! Jean yeah that swirl and heal but i d use her only for this team, i also have kokomi as a healer, not the bestestest for dendro teams,, buuut zhong is flexible. I was not sure about it but thanks for replying. I am still a beginner even though i do my research too and i m wl 8
My Keqing really lacks em, but Nahida and C2 Kazuha can do the trick, Currently using 2pc TF and 2pc 18atk , Keqing now is pretty strong because of Dendro, I do 36 stars with her even without the introduction yet of dendro but you need to try Hard Haha
I need a recomendation for my Keqing C3: Build 1: 4 TF set with Atack Sands 2280 Atack, 120 EM, 75CR, 202 CD weapon Primordial Jade Cutter or Build 2: 4 TF set with EM Sands 1860 Atack, 268 EM, 76CR, 201 CD weapon Primordial Jade Cutter. THX :)
Yes, Fischl can snapshot from Hakushin Ring buff. I will showcase Swirl Electro > Apply Dendro > Fischl > Keqing where the Hakushin buff applies to Fischl instead of Keqing in one of my future Abyss videos. Personally, I don't like Swirl Electro > Apply Dendro > Fischl > Back to Sucrose > Keqing cuz the setup is too long but you can try that rotation.
Hi men tks ALOT for the vid i recently got my Keqing (lol i lost Alheitam T-T) but i dont have the Iron Sting R5 only R1 althought i have the Lions roar R5 wich one do you recomend me to build ?? and for the sands is better ATK or EM ??
Just started building Keqing after getting her C4 so does 4 pcs Shimenawa work well on her because I don't think I'd ever spend my resin on Thundering domain? 🤔
everytime you swap to a character they will always have their bursts up for i-frame, except for fischl but she has self-heal from c4 and she only takes 0.5 sec to cast skill and leave. Keqing is the most vulnerable but her dying is pretty rare since she only needs to charge atk 2-3 times giving her lots of stamina( even more stamina with TF) or you can always not charge atk and swap her out early if you panic
You can replace kazuha with zhongli or jean/sayu for defensive utility at the cost of damage. I used them (With ZL) and it did very well in abyss but it is difficult against mob floors. A possible replacement again is an aggravate kuki build at the cost of fischl damage but you'll have grouping and healing. That said, until a dendro healer comes around, the most damaging keqing aggravate comps won't have healers unfortunately
I’m confused how does hakushan ring help if the only time it gives electro damage buff is when sucrose is on field? She’s on field for like 2 seconds to trigger swirl and then she’s off the rest of the time
I need help! I just got Keqing and I wanted to know whats the best team comp for her, and I saw your video and its really good. But I dont have any anemo character except the traveler and Heizou 😢
C6 Diona is alright if you need a shielder & healer in your team. Yes, aggravate Keqing has higher DPS than Keqing National as seen in my Abyss videos.
Im trying to build a team for my keching but my sucrosse is C0 and it doesn't feel good compared to at least a C1 , would it be better if i use venti? I think i might be able to pull him
Cuz Quicken is like Superconduct. The aura will usually last for 11 sec after you apply Electro and Dendro once. But the Quicken aura will be removed if you apply Hydro or Pyro onto the enemy. In Cyno Quickbloom team, the Quicken aura will always be removed by Hydro application so you need to constantly apply Dendro and Electro.
@@f2pkeqing How about Cyno aggravate with only electro & dendro character? I don't know if quicken or superconduct can last 11s. Do the duration refresh if you proc another electro or dendro on quicken?
In case I need a healer on my team, Kuki is the best option for Aggravate Keqing? There will be DPS loss without Fischl, but DMC/Collei and a dendro can't be replaced, right?
Yup, thats right. If you're playing Nahida, the Anemo character can be replaced with a Hydro character like Kokomi, Xingqiu etc to proc both Hyperbloom and Quicken reaction.
Its really hard to swirl both Hydro and Electro in that team. Keqing Nahida Fischl Yelan or Keqing Nahida Kazuha Fischl is still better. Fischl is VERY IMPORTANT in aggravate Keqing as explained in the video. But for hyperbloom comp, you can replace Fischl with Yaoyao or Beidou if you need some protection. So you can run something like Keqing + Nahida + Beidou/Yaoyao + Yelan.
Hi, I've just updated the Keqing guide. So here is the link to the new Keqing guide:
ruclips.net/video/EgBOGarHtyA/видео.html
@@f2pkeqing oh, thanks
says not available bro. Can you share it again please?
Keqing is now Kequeen. Your videos always motivate me to build my Keqing!
Thank you for this, the in depth explanation of why keqing's synergy with fischl was great. It clears up the misconception that this (Keqging, Fish, Kazuha, DMC) is only good because of Fischl's existence, but in reality, Keqing's fast attacks and Fast Electro application works wonders with Fish's A4 Passive.
Nice Vid
It's mainly early TC's and sheet/sim that are responsible for it.
Sim even shows that in aggravate Raiden Fischl does more than Raiden too.
Truth is when AoE is counted Fischl provides near to zero contribution and it's mostly Keqing and Kazuha that holds off the damage.
Keqing damage in aggravate isn't negligeable, she easily outscale Fischl hard in Primary Target even when given Fischl AoE scaling.
Speedrunners even found out that using Sara instead of Fischl greatly increase the frontloading power of the team for fast clear and most Keqing in spiral abyss are highly invested.
Which is another thing KQM standard doesn't take into account.
Most people are at low or mid investment but most of the people PLAYING SPIRAL ABYSS are highly invested so the dps results never describe it for the majority of the hardcore actually.
Keqing-Fischl is a lot like Childe-XL where people thing the 4* does it all when it's actually a collaborative effort. And the higher the investment the higher the 5* actually outscale the 4* and contribute much more in the team damage.
@@dendenmushi9714 that's a lot to take in, but well, yeahhh, okay, got nothing to say HAHAHAHA ncnc
@@MAN-nq4qy I was just agreeing with you and pointing out why the Fischl stuff is faulty.
@@dendenmushi9714 I seeee , well yeahyeah, All good. Good point with Childe+Xiangling, won't find any better driver for xiangling, same goes for Keqing and Fischl.
This is very helpful as new player that pulled Keqing and Sucrose. I'm hoping to get Nahida in the next patch and pick up fischl or at least some decent electro support. I was doing the reactions completely wrong so this rotation guide is hugely appreciated
This is the first team I was building since Dendro was introduced and it has served to be one of my teams used in abyss and it is fun.
May I ask how do you play abyss without any heal or shield?
@@lilfish1337 abyss buff heal after burst and just i frame a lot
I am a keqing main. I can relate to her so much, in so many aspects. Her design reminds me of one of my old characters and brings back so many memories. I would go through hell for this woman. Thank you SO much for this guide! as a dedicated f2p keqing main, I'm always looking for ways to make her better, and this channel is one of the best I've seen.
Personally been using the Collei + Kazuha variant. Feels good to have someone using Elegy on that team
But Elegy do not stacks with freedom sworn, so I do prefer to use DMC with freedom sworn and Kazuha with Xiphos
@@DaniloSchitkoski do i look like i have Freedom Sword?
Thank you so much bringing back Latale osts
They are so great !!!
Hiiii i just want to say thank you!! I watched this vid a few days ago and noticed your instructor collei build and I just finished my abyss run with full 36 stars with a lvl 21 collei on my bloom team😭 Shes really the mvp there, giving em to barbara while being a battery for dendro mc
Before this i was struggling a lot on 12-3-2 since my national team is not doing enough aoe damage (seeing xingqiu killing the big rifthounds one by one is just pure pain) and my freeze team doesnt freeze the rifthounds long enough (mona only can do so much) and my yoimiya and tighnari team is simply out of the question (almost no aoe at all lol)
Thank you for showing me a way that i finally can use my benched nilou🥹
I LOVE THE SOUNDTRACK OF THIS VIDEO LIKE.... 😭
I think venti is also a good sub dps and sp here whenever you need to face a group of enemies, when his burst apply electro, he can also triggers alot of aggravate, my venti and Shinobu destroy much of enemies in the first half with their burst before my keqing go.
only if the mobs can be CC.
7:51 ayo that sick transition 🥵
And her just said, "don't blink" but my eyes just like blinked.
I came back from a pause and I want to thank you for you vid.. extremely informative! I always loved Keqing, but my main group is Ganyu melt due to her former damage. Now I'm investing in team Keqing and loving it.
i hate when ppl say keqing just a fischl driver. if it were not keqing, fischl a4 would be somewhat useless. in fact, keqing doesnt need fischl, fischl needs her
Tell me you never play taser team without telling me you never play taser team
It's basically a mutual relationship. In aggravate teams Keqing can deal decent damage on her own, while Fischl can too. However, put them together and BOOM. They both compliment each other's kit quite well in aggravate teams.
They aren't useless without the other, it's just that they get way better when put together.
YES I AGREE WITH U, I use kuki instead of fischl cus I need heal lol and she’s still doing fine!
You just described what a driver does
@@xy-bq7lr i dont deny it tho. however keqing can work great on her own
So no one's gonna talk about that sick transition at 3:53?
Your content is so good! Thanks for bringing such well written and valuable information on our dear Keqeen!
I wanna build my keqing but I don't know where to start so ur vid helped me out a lot
Finally, the queen is back. I've been using her everywhere even against raiden shogun, just because it's cooler to fight her woth electro
It’s a great video.
Here’s my footnotes on some parts of it:
Elegy for the End grants 100 EM and 20% ATK
While C6 Dendro Traveler grants 60 EM and 12% Elemental DMG Bonus ( + 12% Dendro DMG Bonus )
While 60 is inferior to 100, 20% ATK is also inferior to 12% Elemental DMG
Not to mention that the Elegy has a 8s CD while C6 Traveler’s Burst’s CD is 5s.
There’s also the fact that C6 Dendro Traveler also becomes a Sub DPS that will increase the overall DMG of the team, as their burst last 15s and has higher multipliers ( 80% lv 1 ) as opposed to Collei’s 6s and lower multipliers ( 43% lv 1 ), which far compensates the 40 EM difference.
Dendro Traveler’s 80 Energy Cost is overstated when it comes to Aggravate. The quicken aura lasts for 10s, so you don’t need Raiden Shogun levels of ER.
Batteries or even just Favonius weapons for other characters is enough to have it back relatively quick with 145-160 ER
Raiden Shogun for example greatly reduces their need for Energy. Even more so if there’s a teammate with a Favonius weapon.
Fischl is also a good alternative, which goes perfect for a Keqing team.
This is far more realistic for a Free to Play player to achieve than 220 ER Traveler ( from my personal experience, it’s not easy to reach ).
Also, I would recommend to build Dendro Traveler with DPS in mind to make full use of their C6.
Priority of stats would be: Crit Stats > ATK >/= ER > EM.
EM can be obtained through various means ( like Sucrose, Kazuha, and C6 Diona ), so it’s less important. ER between 145 and 160 should be enough, especially in the presence of a battery or Favonius wielding characters.
Noblesse Oblige is a good set for this build, as it also grants a 20% ATK buff to the team.
Raiden’s set is also good to help with the Traveler’s personal ER, so it’s easier to focus on other sub stats.
as a keqing main since beginning, this is helpful!
As I saw the video title changed. I was thought as only Keqing's raw damage instead of her own team comps. That makes of Keqing having so much of rivals in terms of damage number reasons.
from my own experiences kazuha doesnt really struggle with energy problems, mine has only 127% ER and he always has his burst on after a rotation just because of how much energy the team generates
and yes, kuki shinobu works in the team if you need a healer.
Yaoyao fills the role better in my experience, and that leaves kuki for a separate hyperbloom team where she really shines
@@joey_f4ke238 that is true but im talking about keqing team specifically
sure if we are doing 2 teams then sacrificing kuki shinobu on a simple aggravate team is not a fair trade and the same goes for kazuha
Informative as always. 🔥
That ending though. 😮
Nice vid. Choose her for our free 5* on the update.
Zero regrets.
Use HoD R5 on her but, struggle w the HP.
Got Iron Sting @ R1, L40 ... so, might make the switch.
Haven't grinded that Inazuma Sword (whose name I will NEVER memorize 😂).
That ending.
She is SO FUN to play.
Excelente video. Tenía dudas con Hakushin. Lo tengo R5 y lo probé hace tiempo en Sacarosa pero no estaba segura si la pasiva funcionaba estando el pj dentro o fuera del campo. Me quedo más claro. Gracias.
wow, really informative vid right here
i realized how sloppy my rotations are
I have to admit i'm guilty of valuing the appearance of a weapon a liiitle bit too much but for me the only two options for keqing are amenoma and mistsplitter. I have used harbinger but it looked pretty bad and amenoma had similar dmg (plus it makes energy even less of an issue for her), currently pulling for mistsplitter since it not only looks amazing on her but also the passive seems tailor made for her (not surprising since she is very similar to ayaka in the way they scale and deal dmg)
if you have lion’s roar it can be good
super helpful thank you for this!
i've tried your Lynette + kirara comp, its really hard in first half😅, im amazed that you can manage to use that team to beat abyss. ig i'll just wait for next reset to see if i can do that too😁👍
thank you so much for this awesome guide
I know im 4 months late but 1:23 is quite confusing. So R5 Iron Sting is equal to an R3 Lion's Roar at 0 EM, but 250 EM or more makes it worse and is only equal to at R1 Lions Roar? So overall Lion's Roar is better so long as you have 250+ EM?
Yup if you can maintain electro aura on the enemies.
Thank u 🙏🏾 i understand now that I can very much play keqing aggravate without fischl. What make fischl so good in this team are the ability that keqing has to trigger her A4 passive meaning that fischl is here as a sub dps for keqing to maximize the overall damage as she is the best option FOR keqing I’ll try to get her but for now I will use her with beidou cause I still feel like keqing is very good at aggravate and I also just love her. Also I did a test with her at level 70 and she can keep up with my higher invested dps just because of how good aggravate is
the only thing this team lag is healer, i mean we all know that fischl Q doesnt anything so she is paper thick and can be one shot most of the times... i guess double dendro with yaoyao or upcoming baizhu could replace anemo unit just sake of flexibility
edit: i completely forgot that jean and sayu exists lmaoo so yeah maybe they can fulfill that roll of vv shred and healing
Yaoyao is fine as a single dendro for aggravate since the aura stays on the enemy without having to constantly apply dendro and her downtime is like 2 sec on the bunny so it works just fine, also makes easy to maintain full hp for harbinger of dawn in case you use that and she can use the tenacity set for extra hp and atk bonus for the party. Also her burst does kinda work with oz so you can use that too to fill her downtime if you feel like it, but it's more like emergency healing
keqing and fischl is my fav duo to use in abyss 💜💜
I am new to this game, I played wuwa and it was quite simple and eash to farm game with good and fast combat but genshin is not hard but the artifact farming is quite annoying and my built doesn't deal damage
thanks for the video, hope you cover Nahida when she comes out :)
Really good video, it was quite detailed. Can you also show builds in your next piece of content, i recently got Keqing and my build though not complete is still quite good for f2p player , but i think i need more er.
4pc TF Keqing doesn't need any ER. You can find my Keqing's build in any of my Abyss videos.
@@f2pkeqing thanks, i am still farming for TF, so maybe thats why, i'll lookup your build as well
im not a keqing user but I dont have any electro dps unit, just my beidou that I use as a dps, on this abyss I need more than just one good electro unit, tysm!
I gotta look for all the possible coping methods cause I lost 50/50 to her on Kazuha's banner as a new player
5:28 technically if youre gonna run fischl with keqing isnt farming thundersoother easier?? cuz in one domain you get artifacts for both her and keqing (thundering fury)
This guide is outdated. You're not supposed to use 4pc Thundersoother set on Fischl.
excellent music choice
sadly i only have kujou, just playing recently and i notice my overload com does do damage but mostly unreliable for some time
I'm the only weirdo that uses royal longsword, still the video is really useful
btw i have r1 amos and r2 stringless, which one is better... since its a reaction based team i think stringless em may be better but i dont wanna waste my ownerless amos
Stringless is better on aggravate Fischl
Is yaoyao a good choice on this team ? the heal will makes this more confortable to play for me
but anyway this is a great video thx a lot !
EDIT: I answered my own question by looking at your yaoyao guide lmao thx again
can you do/do you have a comparison to blacksword? i know this is f2p channel, but im really curious abotu this. nobody actually compares blacksword with lions roar :(
I don't have Black Sword but it should be on par with Lion's Roar at same refinement. Lion's Roar is slightly better if you managed to get really good artifacts.
my team comp is:
keqing
lisa
Anemo mc
collei
is it viable?? its a new account i dont have that alot of characters
Anything is viable at low AR. This guide is for AR 55+ players who want to clear Spiral Abyss.
@@f2pkeqing ohhh ok ok thank you for answering
@@rayyar8158 What is your AR now? I prolly will replace Lisa with Barbara for heal and hydro application. Electro-charged and hyperbloom are OP at low AR. If you have Toukabou Shigure from the previous patch, you can consider building that weapon.
Otherwise, just use R1 Iron Sting unless you have better weapons like Jade Cutter, Mistsplitter etc.
@@f2pkeqing currently at AR 34, my keqing is using the Iron Sting but idk what artifact my team should use. Right now im just using random artifacts. (sorry bad grammar)
Great vid. I had always wondered what's the optimized rotation of Keqing.
Is 4-piece-Thundersoother the best artifact set for Fischl in Nahida hyperbloom team as well?
Yes but the difference between 4pc TS and 2 pc TF + 18% ATK is small.
@@f2pkeqinghow about 4pc gilded??
I have jade cutter is it alright?
Can i replace sucrose amd kazu for venti i dont have him and 70lvl sucro
Can i replace favonius sword with amenoma? On traveler
Yes, Jade Cutter or Mistsplitter is her best weapon.
Yes
Yes
Is jean swirl good? I need a healer im bad at dodging
Yes
My only problem is that i don't have any healer. Like kuki or behizu😢
Best guide I have ever seen
if i dont have a sucrose or kazuha, what i need to do?
can i use lisa instead of fischl because i dont have her?
Will something like
Nahida+venti+xingqiu and kequing work?
Can i replace Fischl c0 by Beidou c2?
My team: keqing- Nahida- Beidou- Tighnari
Which one is the better team?
Keqing-nahida-kazuha-kuki
Keqing-(any dendro enabler)-kazuha-fischl
In terms of single-target DPS, its definitely the 2nd one.
i like the video brotha
i have some questions:
1. is it viable to use yae instead of fischl in this comp? how big of a damage loss is it? (edit: i also have a raiden and a beidou i could use here, do you think either of those would be better than yae?)
2. if jean is used instead of kazuha/sucrose, what sort of rotation would you recommend? or would you not recommend doing that at all?
ps: my fischl is c0, jean is c3, if that matters
1. Its viable to replace Fischl with another off-field DPS like Yae, Beidou etc. But I don't have Yae so I can't say much about the DPS loss or how she compares with the other off-field electro DPS.
2. You can use Jean if you need a healer. But there is already a Dendro healer/shielder in the game so you're better off using Kazuha or Sucrose instead. Their damage bonus/EM bonus passive is far too valuable to be ignored.
@@f2pkeqing i see, thanks for the reply. unfortunately a problem i have is that i just recently came back to the game so i don’t have any dendro healer/shielder, hopefully i can pull a kirara or yaoyao, but i think i will use jean in the meantime since i have her built already, then if i get a dendro healer i can use my sucrose for better damage
do you have any experience using jean in this team? i am wondering about what sort of rotation to do, since her skill pushes enemies away it might be a bit awkward
@@everyonesaidmynamewasstupi3713 Nope, I don't have Jean on my main account. The rotation is probably like:
Fischl's Oz -> Jean -> Dendro -> Keqing -> Repeat
Thank you so much but there is one issue for me is the servivability. I often find one of my characters almost dead what do you think??
Just use Zhongli, Jean, Sayu etc.
I'm doubting about my Anemo slot a lot, I have C3 Sucrose and C0 Kazuha, and I have two teams, Ayaka, Mona, Diona and Keqing, Yaoyao, Fischl, I need to put each one in each team, so I was wondering what was the best option, I did a lot of research and it seems like Kazuha only at c2 boosts EM, also he has a "burst" / quick swap playstyle, Sucrose has the only advantage of Swirling with NA, but aggravate seems super quick swap and not a lot of field time for the anemo, I saw a lot of videos and when people use Sucrose they don't even use her ult most of the time, so I'm in big doubt. I just got to the conclusion that Sucrose at C2, boosts more elemental damage than Kazuha at C0, so Kazuha should go to freeze team because it boosts atk, and Sucrose with Hakushin hopefully will match the damage (although her CC is not as good), is that conclusion correct? or it should be the other way around?
tldr: can't decide between Sucrose and Kazuha
Yes, Kazuha should be paired with Ayaka cuz Sucrose's EM buff does nothing for freeze comp.
I believe when Nahida arrives, she will be able to equip hakusin ring along with dendro application and em buffer, so Keqing, Fischl, Nahida and Kazuha will be the final team until we get a dendro healer prolly Baizhu. Btw Great video!
I dunno.
I don't think Baizhu will outweight Nahida's damage and buff contribution.
It would be nice for casual but for hardcore that can run healerless like the poster, it would result in DPS loss. We're never getting another Bennett both a buffer and healer consolidating both offense and defense.
On top of that Nahida's cons are so good for her too.
@@dendenmushi9714 A team without some sort of survivality still feels incomplete as an overall team comp. If they bring rifthounds back in the abyss, you wont be able to run this team without a healer. Whether or not Baizhu outweighs Nahida's dmg and buff contribution, it has still to be seen in near future when he arrives. Nahida's burst which buffs em is kinda eh tbh, it does no dmg, takes 2 secs to cast, it might not be even worth to cast her burst in some situations. Baizhu, as far as we know is also a dendro catalyst user, and if he turns out to be healer, thats already great considering he can equip Hakusin ring plus heal, who knows, he could be broken.
@@arigatameiwaku Tried and tested Jean/Sayu in that team many times. Even though they have healing, they are just bad. There's no grouping in the team and their er generation sucks. Kazuha can almost double Keqing's dmg and has perfect synergy with Keqing. Kazuha also has very good personal dmg since his swirls and electro absorbed dmg can also aggravate. Boosting Keqing and fischl with Kazuha/Sucrose for huge amounts of aggravate dmg in a quick window of time is what makes Kazuha/Sucrose a great pair for that team. Jean/Sayu pales in comparison to Kazuha/Sucrose to a point that you would clear the floor 2x or even 3x slower with them. Dendro healer will be much more prefered than anemo healers like Jean/Sayu since you will not lose grouping and huge dmg buffer like Kazuha in the team.
Also you really think simply putting Keqing and Fischl does huge amount of dmg? They don't. Most of the dps/sub dps units require buffers to do dmg and aggravate reaction happens to recieve huge boost from dmg bonus buffer.
@@arigatameiwaku So you are just not gonna use that team on first half or multiple enemies because you have degraded your team for comfort where you now lose grouping and dmg buffer plus smoother rotation. Yeah, nice argument lol. Stop coping with Jean/Sayu. They are just very bad for that team. I don't recommend them ever as a long time Keqing main. If you only want to use that team in single target, I recommend Zhongli more than Jean/Sayu. You will have much better time fighting bosses with a shield than possibly getting slapped around or one shotted. But ofcourse, you can use whatever you feel like but there are much better options than Jean/Sayu. Their healing are just not enough contribution to that team.
@@arigatameiwaku Seems like someone has not pulled Kazuha. If you had Kazuha, you would know that he is a crucial unit of Keqing team long before dendro arrived and he still is. Like I said Zhongli is a better unit if you are only planing to use aggravate Keqing in single target or bosses, especially Zhongli with archaic petra, its very reliable for that team. Jean/Sayu is usable if you dont have Kazuha/Sucrose/Zhongli. They are just not that good.
Hi ! tysm for this tutorial :) I only have a question : If I have the Aquila Favonia, is it better for Keqing than a Lion's roar C5?
Lion's Roar is better.
Can I use baizhu for the dendro applicator? Is it enough? This video is amazing Ty!
Yes, Baizhu is good enough and he can also heal.
im just using my ancient 0EM keqing build from before dendro existed and i use C2 kazuha and nahida to force 400EM on keqing lol
Really luv ur vids. What should I use if I don t have kazuha or sucrose. Jean c0 or zhong c1? Or kirara?
Zhongli but Jean is fine too.
@@f2pkeqing thank yooou! Zhong s already built so i ll go for him! Jean yeah that swirl and heal but i d use her only for this team, i also have kokomi as a healer, not the bestestest for dendro teams,, buuut zhong is flexible.
I was not sure about it but thanks for replying. I am still a beginner even though i do my research too and i m wl 8
What happen if I put venti inside....
My Keqing really lacks em, but Nahida and C2 Kazuha can do the trick, Currently using 2pc TF and 2pc 18atk , Keqing now is pretty strong because of Dendro, I do 36 stars with her even without the introduction yet of dendro but you need to try Hard Haha
Thoughts on Keqing-Fischl-Dendro- and the new upcoming character, Layla? I only have Harbinger of Dawn and am currently waiting for a decent shielder.
Layla should be good. I really like that her burst and skill have 12 sec CD.
what artifacts are you using on your keqing?
also what about the new Umbrela sword? is similar to iron sting?
4pc TF
Umbrella Sword is better than R5 Iron Sting in single target scenario only.
today i wanted to build my keqing even further by pulling on jade cutter. i got khaj nisut instead :))
very good guide, but isnt it better to use the second state of the skill first before using ult, so u can use ur skill again after ult
It doesn't really matter. With 4pc TF, you will always be able to use her skill again after her ult.
I need a recomendation for my Keqing C3:
Build 1: 4 TF set with Atack Sands
2280 Atack, 120 EM, 75CR, 202 CD weapon Primordial Jade Cutter
or
Build 2: 4 TF set with EM Sands
1860 Atack, 268 EM, 76CR, 201 CD weapon Primordial Jade Cutter.
THX :)
Build 1 is slightly better
I don't have Fischl so can I use Raiden instead?
You can but Raiden is much better in other team comps.
@@f2pkeqing I will build her then. Thank you very much ^^
That's it I'm building Keqing to max... ive got a c3 fishl with elegy bow and keqing with mitsplitter... nahida and then kazuha.
With sucrose shouldn't you swirl electro > apply dendro and then use fischl so she can snapshot the em buff?
No cuz you can't snapshot EM. Also, Sucrose needs to be right before Keqing cuz Hakushin Ring's buff only lasts for 6 sec.
@@f2pkeqing True you can't snapshot the EM, but you can snapshot the dmg bonus from Hakushin ring no
Yes, Fischl can snapshot from Hakushin Ring buff.
I will showcase Swirl Electro > Apply Dendro > Fischl > Keqing where the Hakushin buff applies to Fischl instead of Keqing in one of my future Abyss videos.
Personally, I don't like Swirl Electro > Apply Dendro > Fischl > Back to Sucrose > Keqing cuz the setup is too long but you can try that rotation.
Hi men tks ALOT for the vid i recently got my Keqing (lol i lost Alheitam T-T) but i dont have the Iron Sting R5 only R1 althought i have the Lions roar R5 wich one do you recomend me to build ?? and for the sands is better ATK or EM ??
R5 Lion's Roar
For ATK vs EM sands, just pick the one that has better substats.
Just started building Keqing after getting her C4 so does 4 pcs Shimenawa work well on her because I don't think I'd ever spend my resin on Thundering domain? 🤔
No, Keqing needs her burst.
Wow first video from your content and im a fan. Seriously well guided video. ❤️
What about Mappa Mare for sucrose? isent that buff better at r5? since you can stack it twice for a total of 32% elemental dmg bonus
Mappa Mare's passive only buffs Sucrose. Her personal damage is not important. Whats important is how much she buffs her teammates.
it would be tough to survive without any healer or shielder
With this team it doesn't because you will spam your bursts with so many frequency that you will i-frame almost all the attacks
everytime you swap to a character they will always have their bursts up for i-frame, except for fischl but she has self-heal from c4 and she only takes 0.5 sec to cast skill and leave. Keqing is the most vulnerable but her dying is pretty rare since she only needs to charge atk 2-3 times giving her lots of stamina( even more stamina with TF) or you can always not charge atk and swap her out early if you panic
You can replace kazuha with zhongli or jean/sayu for defensive utility at the cost of damage.
I used them (With ZL) and it did very well in abyss but it is difficult against mob floors.
A possible replacement again is an aggravate kuki build at the cost of fischl damage but you'll have grouping and healing.
That said, until a dendro healer comes around, the most damaging keqing aggravate comps won't have healers unfortunately
I’m confused how does hakushan ring help if the only time it gives electro damage buff is when sucrose is on field? She’s on field for like 2 seconds to trigger swirl and then she’s off the rest of the time
Sucrose needs to be on-field to trigger Hakushin Ring's passive but the buff itself lasts for 6 sec, and can be snapshot by Fischl.
@@f2pkeqing ohhhhh okay that makes sense thank u 😭
I need help! I just got Keqing and I wanted to know whats the best team comp for her, and I saw your video and its really good. But I dont have any anemo character except the traveler and Heizou 😢
Heizou is fine. You can use Prototype Amber on him if you need heal.
Thank you for the video. I have Fischl and Kuki but they are both c0, so which char should I invest in?
Fischl
Thanks alot
How good is Diona c6 for the team?
Is aggravate keqing much better than keqing national?
C6 Diona is alright if you need a shielder & healer in your team.
Yes, aggravate Keqing has higher DPS than Keqing National as seen in my Abyss videos.
what can I do if I just have Fischl C1, its worth to invest her or maybe i should look for another option? in that case what options ?
Fischl is the best option even at C0.
I used to have a thunder soother Fishl but the artifacts sucks so I went for thundering fury
Will you do a video with Nahida on Keqing team
Most likely yes
@@f2pkeqing Nice
Im trying to build a team for my keching but my sucrosse is C0 and it doesn't feel good compared to at least a C1 , would it be better if i use venti? I think i might be able to pull him
Yes, Ventil will feel much better to play especially if his burst can pull the enemies.
I know this was uploaded a year ago... But is there any other substitue for Anemo units (kazuha / sucrose) I don't have any of the two... :'(
Is Yae Miko a good alternative for Fischl? I rarely use Yae in other teams
Any off-field electro DPS should work but I don't know how good Yae + Keqing really is cuz I don't have Yae.
I have Kuki and Nahida, but I struggled with the rotation order. Does it have the same order as with Fischl and DMC?
Yup, the order isn't that important with Kuki so long you swirl electro.
Can u explain how quicken works? Why Keqing only need small percentage of dendro application but I feel Cyno need 2 dendro character to function well?
Cuz Quicken is like Superconduct. The aura will usually last for 11 sec after you apply Electro and Dendro once. But the Quicken aura will be removed if you apply Hydro or Pyro onto the enemy.
In Cyno Quickbloom team, the Quicken aura will always be removed by Hydro application so you need to constantly apply Dendro and Electro.
@@f2pkeqing How about Cyno aggravate with only electro & dendro character? I don't know if quicken or superconduct can last 11s. Do the duration refresh if you proc another electro or dendro on quicken?
@@tavtav3526 Yes, the duration will refresh if you apply Dendro and Electro again.
@@f2pkeqing I see thank for the explanation
In case I need a healer on my team, Kuki is the best option for Aggravate Keqing? There will be DPS loss without Fischl, but DMC/Collei and a dendro can't be replaced, right?
Yup, thats right. If you're playing Nahida, the Anemo character can be replaced with a Hydro character like Kokomi, Xingqiu etc to proc both Hyperbloom and Quicken reaction.
bro which one do you suggest me for my Keqing, The Black Sword R2 (27.6% crit rate) or Harbinger of Dawn R5 (28% crit rate)
Black Sword
@@f2pkeqing thank you kindly.
my keqing has lions roar but r1 , her em is 218, 2090atk and 69.9/174.3 , and electro dmg bonus 66%,
I dont have fisch, so i using sara C6 at her best and the result was great even not using kazuha (dont have him too)
Please help
I saw your other video (Keqing Nahida Fischl Yelan)
How about Keqing Nahida Yelan + Kazuha instead Fischl? My Fischl not C6
Its really hard to swirl both Hydro and Electro in that team. Keqing Nahida Fischl Yelan or Keqing Nahida Kazuha Fischl is still better.
Fischl is VERY IMPORTANT in aggravate Keqing as explained in the video. But for hyperbloom comp, you can replace Fischl with Yaoyao or Beidou if you need some protection. So you can run something like Keqing + Nahida + Beidou/Yaoyao + Yelan.
Could u replace Collei for Yaoyao bc id probably die if i dont have a healer 😅
Yes, you can.
full starred abyss 12 with keqing..🤩
I have a semi invested c6 beidou but I just got my first fischl, should I bother investing into fish
100% yes