THE TIER LIST FOR LADDER SMASH
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We tried to keep this as short as possible but tierlists in smash ultimate just take forever
"We tried to keep this as short as possible"
The video: 33 minutes
Isn’t sephiroth a multi jump character because of his one wing
If you fast fall with characters like piranha plant, k.rool etc you can grab the ladder faster instead of barely grabbing the ladder
You guys forgot Matt, sans, and Rex, Matt in particular is my main
There is a way to get blocks, by mining down air if you place it on a block
Nintendo's next patch: Made several characters grab ladders faster after using recovery.
Everyone Else: What? That's useless, why would we need that change?
BSD: THIS HAS COMPLETELY SHIFTED THE META
@@mr.thekid3827 lol
Its not a patch it will be an update
nintendo is the publisher, dummy
Finally. The most important tier list.
Finally. The most useless tier list
Especially since mega man is number 1
"Megaman's Dair single handedly makes him the best character"
...Not sure if that was intended...
Laughed anyway.
Aaayyy! Nice catch! This comment deserves more love!
How did I not notice this?!
I always notice unintentional puns.
I guess Mega Man will always have the _upper hand_ in Ladder Smash. ᕙ(°~°®>
...Or is it *downer* hand in this case???
took me 30 seconds to realize what this meant...
@@ArjunRaviFunniestManOnEarth pls explain
@@t0xtricity2 Mega Man’s hand detaches for his down air so he’s left single handed during the animation
During Lucinas section: “All swordfighters are really good”
Chrom: i agree
Ike: True dat
Roy: dats true
Roy: Then why am I in b tier
_"GEE PIKACHU, how come Nintendo lets you be top tier in 2 ways of playing Smash?!"_
_"pika."_
Everyone laughed off latter attacks when they were introduced, but here we are
i, for one, didn't, and went straight to optimizing its meta
The fact olimar without pikmins is better than mien mien is hilarious
Well not quite^^
He does have one pretty good stock, and that makes the difference :p
@@BeefySmashDoods
Its min min
@@yowoody1868 ask the creators of the arms game they will say mien mien
Bro... it literally says Min min in both smash brothers and ARMS.
I would LOVE to see more ladder smash stages with ladders being put in different places to allow different options for attacking and recovering
This being a side tourney at a supermajor would be insane
Can you make the ladder spin?
@@presion5628 it'd push you off as you go onto the side I've tried this before
Kinda funny how the number one character climbs ladders regularly in his own games. He was made for ladders, and had a lot of training material x)
insert Elec Man joke here
Crash Man would like to know your location
Finally a tier list where Gannondorf is viable and BROKEN!!!
Oh hello.
@@Prompt3D Hello
@@Prompt3D do you prefer the air
@@JohnLover1179 lollll
It makes me so incredibly happy to see Ganon as a high tier
ladder smash, this seems like the next best thing, I believe you are *up to something*
Yes I agree hahaga
Ladder smash tournaments confirmed?
Here before this is the top comment
I agree
Wow haha funny joke haha lol I laughed so much lol
Crazy to think that the random gamemode I came up with now has a tier list. So when is there gonna be a major?
Btw Mii Swordfighter dummy broken and you have done everyone a disservice by not talking about him
Mii gunner also seems really good. Their up air is super disjointed and strong. Their dair is not that good but both the kick and the projectile up bs (I don't know their english names) can give good coverage below them on top of being decent recoveries #DontForgetMii
Yo how do you make the spawning platforms drop?
@@doenerman00 theres a setting to make it get affected by gravity, then just set it so that it doesn't respawn
Finally a tier list where Fox is one of the bad ones
That's sad for him :c
@Roger Loe We made Joker bad and that's what matters to me.
Brawl?
@@JohnLover1179 fox wasn’t that bad in brawl. He was somewhere in upper mid tier mainly because 3 characters just absolutely hard countered him
@@shrike_8136 Also hitstun
You didn't rank miis, but think about gunner up air
this is the highest i'll ever see dr mario places on a tier list and it hurts
He'd actually be pretty good on a "who has the worst recover" tier list 😃
Melee Dr Mario was decent right
@@nucleartree8159 true, but I meant in ultimate
Dr mario is actually op, I don't think he needs buffs
He would get my vote as top-tier for the coolest back throw.
I find it interesting that they call Piranha Plant a female. I was confused at first because Sakurai referred to Plant as a male in the presentation, but I looked it up and found out that the German word for plant is a female noun, so that's why they call him a her. Then again, plants in real life are both male and female at the same time, so who really knows.
Well depends on the plant, some plants have sexes others don't
I feel like a good way to make all characters actually playable to an extent is having platforms a little ways away from the ladder that move (up-down, left-right, etc) so that they can’t really be used consistently but can help out characters who suffer from this gamemode (material characters, characters who can’t grab ledge because of the way their up b works, etc)
You guys didn’t even mention lucas’ down air. That thing looks like it would be ridiculous in this mode.
True
You can jump around him on the ladder. The reason why hydrant or hard knuckle is broken is because they have such big range, and knuckle doesn't have a ton of end-lag
@@leofont6026 that’s fair, but can’t you predict them jumping around and climb up while doing the d-air?
7:45 the worst thing about steve is that there is no place for his crafting table to land, which means it will constantly respawn, which means it will constantly drain your resources.
since you respawn with 3 iron always you basically have to down air immediately if you want to use them, otherwise the crafting table will just eat them up one by one.
That's really bad
A miracle he got in teir two
@@thunderstar7682 yeah his only saving grace is that his up air is pretty decent even without tools and that he has a very good recovery. apart from that he is NOT made for this mode lmao
Shulk is pretty good on the ladder. He has crazy range on his air attacks and can use his manado arts on the air really helping his strength and recovery.
Talking about pit and dark pit is spike is pretty good
Me: please don’t take this out of context
Title : THE TIER LIST FOR LADDER SAMSH !
Mii fighters : *Am I a joke to you ?*
Incineroar discord actually had an entire tournament revolving around practicing and then competing in this gamemode. Dedede was almost banned because of extremely good he is at controlling the entire ladder, especially with a canceled up b. Belmonts were deemed glass cannons. We eventually switched to a 2 ladder system with 2 stages being options with the ladders at different distances apart.
27:49 You can tell cFive edited this because he cut out that part where he got rested by vyq.
the content noone asked for but now that they know about it they absolutely need it
I absolutely love that pacman always ranks high in these kinds of gimmicky tiers
These ladder climb animations are really excellent, I'm glad I could see them
I mean almost all animations in this game are excellent, but true and I agree
17:43 idk why but I laughed so loud and my parents were sleeping
you guys do know that steve can mine off his TNT and down air right? just place a block, drop a TNT or anvil and bam... you can get back your materials!
Lmao they said that
@@willmaster1920 they still stev was pretty low tho
15:05 VyQ’s face there after he spiked cFive was pretty funny
yes.
Everything you guys upload really feels like high quality. Thanks for the effort ✌🏼
Bayo's pose on the ladder 🤣🤣🤣
I mean it's Bayo. What do you expect?
You know, this is an actually really cool concept you guys are very good thinkers for coming up with this!
He's a climbing robot
MEGAMAN
Ooh, I’ve been waiting for this! Let’s go.
The rest i kinda saw, but I totally didn't think about how good Mega Man is
What if you build with Steve and place a tnt to mine
@Mystic Shadow well iron lasts much longer, so you’ll be able to mine more
@Mystic Shadow I meant place tnt on the iron block and mine that
23:34 I never knew that Bayo poses like that when she’s on a ladder
I mean it's Bayo. What do you expect?
Finally a tier list where Falco the best spacey is
Steve rising up a ladder while face pressing on it is a good touch from Minecraft lmao
I’d love to see ladder smash as a side event at a big tournament
Making a prediction, my boy Rockman is good.
(Edit, Mega Fam is the best as it turns out.)
(cries in mii player)
Can't wait to see where Bayo (my main) Turns up on this one
Edit: Alright, I guess. I feel like if the Bayo can play well enough, she'd be Top tier for ladder smash. The fact that she has no special lag is a big deal, as that is a lot of what makes her low tier in normal smash (and don't you bayonetta haters blast me for that tier placement). It really just depends on the combos that can be performed with ladder Re-grabs.
Oh wait I didn't actually think about how regrabbing could be a combo extension rather than a combo breaker. Dang that's interesting. Probably the main thing that makes samus and dark samus good as well.
Geeez, Little Mac STILL couldn’t climb to the top... smh
Literally...
He'll never do it
"You ain't no ladder fighter either, Mac."
Finally, a tier list I can agree with!
Because regular Samus is higher than Zero Suit Samus!
Honestly i feel like steve could have been a little bit higher because steve can always just create and anvil and gather more iron than he loses but a main issue is his crafting table cost materials when it spawns and because it just falls into the void he is always losing constant materials.
Topic: Byleth. Everyone: "SHE has a Teter recovery"
Also everyone: uses male Byleth
Am i the only person who thinks thats just wrong?
Yeah but what really threw me off was treating plant as a she
frankly, female byleth is the only one worth using, so you may as well just pretend that male byleth is just a really butch lady
@@roycks12 that’s because she is
@@FioreFire nah fam byleth is trash
@@FioreFire I strongly disagree. I like the designe of male Byleth more. But I like the style of Female byleth as well. But i still have nightmares about female byleth from the cutszenes from three houses xD
Its nice to see heavyweights this high on a tierlist
11:44 the cross slash goes with the music
Mega man is broken in ladder smash I’m happy
I must be cool cuz i never hit my rests...
I can see sonic being higher to be honest,just because he can act out of up B and air dodge to avoid hit boxes and knock people of the ladder and his up air would be toxic good.
steve: you put me weak but i can play near the blast zone with my BLOCKS.
he can get infinity blocks and stay away for eva .3. using block and quick tnt into grind
Forget calling M!Byleth “she”, I’m more curious about calling Pirahna Plant “she” like at 3:15
In Germany we have genders for our nouns. We have three versions of "The" depending on the gender, der (m), die (f), das (n). Plant is "Pflanze" in german which is a female noun. My assumption would be that it was just force of habit.
@@MyDickIsATriangle Huh, interesting! I usually think of irl plants being neutral, since the traditional ideas of male and female don’t apply the same, and a lot of them have both fertilizing and receiving elements. But that makes sense! Thanks for telling me
@@Diamond_Aura Lingüistic gender rarely ever correlates with biological gender. Besides, as this is a fictional character, there is no reason why it needs to abide by real-life biology. As far as canonicity goes, I believe that Piranha Plant is female, based on what is implied by the Japanese language.
Piranha plant is a she tho
@@angelmendez-rivera351 did you know irl trees actually have gender?
32:37 it looks like they’re being slapped repeatedly by the various mega men.
Never in my life have I heard the word “decent” come out of someone’s mouth this many times 😂
1:21 Constantly calling Byleth she... while they're playing male one
I know right lol
That hurt me
It wounds me, please acknowledge the guys versions
I think y’all might be underrating Rosalina.
Giant, killing up air that lasts for a billion frames.
Giant lingering nair that combos with the late hit and can set up juggles with any hit.
Large down air that spikes decently and lingers for 2 billion frames.
Fair and bair are huge and send at unforgiving angles.
Star bits seems great for gimping.
Can send luma out to safely pressure opponents who favor being off-ladder.
Has great lateral aerial mobility.
Gravitational pull invalidates a lot of OP gimmicks and will be mad difficult to punish.
High double jump and huge aerials that are great for sharking to help her recover.
High air acceleration will make punishing a high recovery with launch star trickier than you think.
(And I think range is very valuable in neutral especially since everyone is the same speed on the ladder and up and down movement is instant.)
Her recovery is garbo tho unless you get the perfect angle
Once in person tournaments come back I think this should be a side event
I love how the ladder smash teir list is so different then the normal competitive one
Please try Road Warrior Smash. Go to the F-zero level with the blue falcon ship but with hazards off. The road still moves but there's nothing in the way on it. The rules are you can't stand on top of the blue falcon once you leave. Maybe have high percent handicap or higher knockback to encourage ceiling teching. It's quite fun, any character can jump on the road and a few can run on it effectively.
alternate title: tier listing every characters recovery
16:09 one of my biggest gripes with Lucario is the weird controls on his recovery. I’d want to edit a LOT of his moveset if given the chance, but that at least should function a little more like Zelda Up B in terms of control imo. Zig zagging has so little practical use and it kills the user more often than it helps them...
It has a decent amount of practial use in regular Smash, though. Just not here.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 I would like to respectfully disagree. Even knowing how the controls work, I cannot say how many times I’ve accidentally SD’d because I pressed just slightly diagonal up for just a bit too long instead of a cardinal direction. I think the controls of Teleports like Zelda and Mewtwo are far more logical, or even if it controlled a little more like Greninja or Pikachu Up Bs.
...this coming from the guy named “Diamond Aura” with the Riolu pfp... I wish Lucario was less gimmicky with basically everything in his kit. With how extremely Aura works (if base power was better but Aura did less that would probably be better), the controls on Up B, the lack of a spike on Dair second hit, Side B midair being almost useless since it can’t command grab, and other things... but unfortunately, his main selling point is “get hit a lot and hit back harder”, and the rest of his kit really suffers from lack of good composition. I’d totally take Aura getting nerfed significantly if he could get some of those other things adjusted.
@@Diamond_Aura I acknowledge your disagreement, but I know of many skilled Lucario players who also agree with what I stated. So I do not think the controls are inherently problematic. It could be that maybe the character does not fit your playstyle as well as you previously thought.
@@angelmendez-rivera351 perhaps play style is indeed my own personal issue, but I must also cite tournament performance and even just highlights like YEET and Dragon Smash. Lucario CAN do cool stuff and has the ability to win tourneys... but more often than not, the clips that include Lucario (regardless of which type of video it’s for) will be of Lucario being the one losing. And while other characters have more complex movesets, Lucario’s still boils down to “I hit harder since you damaged me”. He has little ability to gimp or take early stocks if he is winning/has no Aura, therefore meaning Lucario is only good if you feel like you think you can clutch better than your opponent.
I understand he brings a unique idea to the table in terms of his play style, but I still think it could be implemented better, and I feel that tournament performance reflects the idea that he’s basically a mid tier at best in most matchups. Small alterations to his mechanics could do wonders while still keeping the Aura mechanic in existence, just not making it his only feature (similar to how many DLC characters have other types of clutch factors like Arsene or Go! or Winged Form, but those things do not define the character they are attached to, only aid in the ease of execution)
@@Diamond_Aura *but I must also cite tournament performance and even just highlights like YEET and Dragon Smash.*
Tournament performance is fine to cite, but you are severely mistaken if you think the highlights amount to anything, let alone convince me of anything. The entire point of these highlights is that they showcase things which are, in a sense, unusual, and make those matches in particular different from the typical match. This is not to say there is no valuable information to gain fron these highlights, but you are not going to be able to establish a meaningful statistical trend from these.
*but more often than not, the clips that include Lucario (regardless of which type of videos it's for) will be of Lucario losing.*
Leaving aside whether this is true or not, it is unclear to me that this demonstrates anything in particular about his recovery or about his gimmicks. If we are talking about how Lucario performs in tournaments, in general, then sure, I am willing to grant his results are not the best, but this misses the point, as I never claimed he was a top-tier character or a character with excellent tournament results.
Besides, tournament results by themselves are a poor measure for how good characters are. For example, Marth has worse tournament results than many of the low-tier characters in SSBU, but no one would actually believe he is a low-tier character, as he is definitely better than most of the cast. The problem is that, why would you play as Marth when you can play as Lucina? As a result, Marth is severely underrepresented, and those who do choose to play him are usually players whose skills are far from the best. Does this apply to Lucario? No. I am not claiming that Lucario is underrepresented. I am simply proving a point about how tournament results, *by themselves,* are far from a reliable measure of how good characters are, and all I did was provide an example. Anyway, this is derailing, since to begin with, I never claimed Lucario was a top tier to begin with. My only claim in this whole conversation about Lucario was regarding the utility of his recovery, and in response to this, you went on a rant about how Lucario *in general* is not a great character.
*And while other characters have more complex movesets, Lucario's still boils down to "I hit harder since you damaged me"...*
This has nothing to do with how good Lucario is, though. There are characters with complex movesets that are really good, like Shulk or Peach, and also characters with complex movesets that are very mediocre. There are characters with very simplistic movesets that are bad, but also characters with very simplistic movesets that, nonetheless, are very good, like Lucina. Moveset complexity has a rather weak correlation to how good a character is. Also, I feel compelled to clarify yet again, that I never actually intended to argue that Lucario is a top-tier character or not. In fact, I will be frank and admit that I have no idea what is Lucario's tier placement. This does not matter, because I never made any claims about how fun Lucario is or how good he is. All I said is that the recovery has a lot of utility, and that I know of many Lucario players, some of whom I would say are rather skilled, that agree with that judgement. This has no major implications regarding how good Lucario is overall, and the fact that you felt compelled to explode and begin a rant about Lucario as a whole tells me that you have a personal problem with this character that goes far beyond just his recovery.
*He has little ability to gimp or take early stocks if he is winning/has no Aura, therefore meaning Lucario is only good if you feel like you can clutch better than your opponent.*
Again, this definitely sounds like your problem with this character is definitely personal, and with regards to playstyle, and what you are doing is justify this dislike for the gimmicks by arguing that in he performs somewhat mediocrely in tournaments. Given that you began all of this solely from me saying his recovery has utility, it definitely sounds like you needed some steam to release about this character, which, to me, communicates that you maybe should not be playing the character, as it seems to really bother you somehow. I am not judging you for wanting your character to be a top tier, but if you are unable to enjoy the character's gimmicks solely for that reason, then that further confirms that this is a playstyle incompatibility problem. This is not something I can help you with, either way. It is not as though I can do anything to change how well Lucario performs in tournaments. And I could be wrong about all of this, but the way you are phrasing things definitely communicate to me what I said above.
*I feel that tournament performance reflects the idea he's basically a mid tier at best in most match ups.*
In a game with this many characters and this much balance, being "mid tier at best" is far from bad, especially when the game is more unbalanced with regards the bottom tier, and not the top tier. Regardless, you are right that Lucario's performance in tournaments could be improved by tweaking his moveset. But once again, I fail to understnd what is motivating you to tell me this, knowing that I never said anything regarding his performance. Again, I hate to repeat myself, but it is very hard to not to repeat myself in these circumstances: it very much does seem like this problem is personal, between you and the character, seeing that you had this much to rant about when I said so little. And when there are other players that do not have as much of a problem with the gimmicks as you seem to have, even if they agree that he is not a top tier, it is difficult to not think this is not a playstyle compatibility problem. As such, I have no idea what else I am supposed to say here. I am not saying you definitely have a playstyle compatibility problem, but your rant and your phrasings very strongly suggest it in these circumstances.
Y'all need to try a free for all ladder smash. It'd be total chaos!
Yes
I figured you would not cover the Miis, but I’ll tell you, Mii Brawler is definitely worth exploring. Feint Jump is like a huge flip kick, and while it has more lag it lets you camp and recover safely from distances most characters cannot. Soaring Axe Kick is just a bigger, deadlier, and farther reaching Climhazzard, so you can probably kill anyone forced to grab the ladder at any percent, as it kills at 0 most of the time. Thrupper does not go far but does have a big hit box. Flashing Mach Punch stalls so it could be useful, maybe, as the other two are useless in ladder. For side b, I think Burning Drop Kick would be the best, as it goes very far, can be used multiple times, and does good damage. Suplex could also be good for suicide kills though if you prefer. So yeah, a 2212 mii would be insanely busted for this.
I would like to mention that bayo's down air can be cancelled into up b but it takes a while so you can spike your opponent and make it back safely though you probably want to do this in the upper half of the ladder to avoid sd-ing and b reverse the up b to avoid saving your opponent. Interesting note, her up air gives her more momentum to travel farther horizontally.
I didn't know the up air thing. Is it doing a single or multiple up airs? or held? this could be useful for normal competitive matches
@@slipknotfya all can work. though it doesn't affect normal jumps, it definitely helps after using side b or up b w/ no jump left
Dedede is my pick for the best ladder smash character in the game. Part of this is how great his up and down airs are. Dair being a super strong spike that's both both massive and pretty quick, and up air for being almost impossible to punish without dropping off the ladder and attacking from the side for most characters. His other aerials are very good as well. Also, and most importantly, his up b is an extremely strong tool when used aggressively. It's one of the strongest spikes in the game, killing any character at 0 from anywhere on the ladder, has super armor, can cover the whole ladder, and dedede can grab the ladder very quickly after canceling it. If at any point dedede jumps from the ladder to use this move straight up and down, it forces the opponent to jump off the ladder, or contest him at the apex of his jump where he's most vulnerable, but that's still very risky. He can also use up b from below his oppenent to get above them quickly, as the armor makes him hard to hit on the way up and opponents have to respect that you may not cancel the move on your way down.
Dedede, along with some other characters like megaman and g&w, is what made us switch to a 2 ladder meta, so these moves that cover the whole ladder are not quite as powerful. I highly recommend trying out 2 ladder meta. In my opinion, it's a lot more fun and gives you more options to mix it up with
wow my two mains are the two best characters in this mode! can't say i saw that coming 😁
A tier list to rival all tier lists
"And that concludes our complete tier list" *doesn't include miis*
I’m still tying to figure out what letter they are trying to grab.
Finally, Ganondorf, Meta Knight, and Marth are actually GOOD, and some others like K Rool, Doc, and Lucario are also decently better! Must feel nice!
I do think Link might be a few places higher if ur really good with bomb recovery, u could literally mess around stalling and shooting projectiles, lol, and there's also his weight and his rang to cover him
Tier list are the most complex things to do for me, but in smash, that’s hard
If Steve puts a block and a tnt on top they can mine and get more materials but kind of punishable
Also uneffective
Someone count the amount of times they say "recovery" in this video
7
How is Captain Falcon the fan favorite? When you said that he was against Ridley, the actual 'People's Champ!'
Now I’m predicting Captain Falcon will be high tier, because his aerials are nasty and he can act out of up b
Alright, time to explain why plant takes so long to grab ladder. After up b, plant enters into “freefall” but it isn’t its true freefall. If you look at the animation, it starts freefall with its mouth closed and leaves completely horizontal, but after a few seconds it’s mouth opens a bit and the leaves point up a bit, plus it shakes a bit. This second animation is the actual freefall it has. We know this because when he hits the red trampoline, it ha this animation instead of the first. Hope that explained it
I just noticed the crafting table keeps falling and respawning and using up your blocks idly !
You can also stall in the air with Cloud with his side special and neutral special.
This is true, but stalling in the air with a character that struggles to recover is not a virtue.
YESSS KIRBY IS GOOD FINALLY. ITS BEEN SO LONG SINCE 64
Looks like AaronCheeseLord will be updating the meta
Uh huh.
Not even I can argue that little mac is underrated here
Would love to see this for other stuff such as smashketball and volleyball
I love how they call piranha plant a she
Im all for it honestly
It's probably because the German word for plant "Pflanze" is femanine and gendered pronouns are used for everything in German, even for inanimate objects. That probably makes the Beefy Smash Doods subconsciously associate the Piranha Plant character as female.
Otherwise, sure why not! It's a plant!
@@A-Spoto Interesting
@@A-Spoto I thought the two of them were Austrian?
@@ShawFujikawa Outside of Germany, Standard German is an official languages in Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Belgium, and Luxembourg
I just realized how good Beefy Smash Doods could get at Ultimate because they can always train with each other. Another year of this and they could be contenders for top 50 in the world if they really went for it
Yup. But cFive is not motivated enough..
@@vyq6014 sucks to suck at losing I guess rip
Yoshi and Ganondorf are fun to use on ladder smash.
Spam down aerial.
Ganondorf=spike fun
Yoshi=flutter kick spam
Wonder where Pyra and Mythra would have placed on the list. Pyra unfortunately has Ike and Chrom's Up-B, but her Neutral-B does let her stall and she's a floaty character. And then her aerials seem like they would be really scary with how wide and powerful they are. Of course, there's also her Down-B which gives her not one but 2 actually useful recoveries, and an attack that ignores weight even if not fully charged if they're in the air while also halting all vertical momentum if they hit someone.
Bonus points for showing off by completely letting go of their sword when on a ladder. I mean, where else would they put it? A scabbard? How are they supposed to draw fast enough then? Keep holding it? But they need their hands to grab the ladder!
Finally a tier list that puts pits above palu
“you can’t mine blocks”
you can mine tnt on a block, it doesn’t reduce the block health and also gives you the material under that tnt
This is the future meta for the game I can see it
No its not :/ its not oficial
“Every character”
Miis: Am I a joke to you?
Having a quarter of the cast with nonfunctional recoveries makes me think of melee haha
Little Mac: alright imma head out
It makes sense for Rockman to be top tier in ladder smash xD
He's been practicing ladder smash since his first game
Finally. A tier list where Bayo is actually pretty high up-
Smash 4?
@@slimballs9650 1. You're replying to a 2 year old comment, 2. Ultimate tierlist
I’d like to object to Dedede’s placement and say he should be higher. Up special can be a very good offensive tool for ladder control, as it spikes all the way through and is very hard to contest. With how easy it can be cancelled, it forces your opponents to either go really low or leave the ladder, which can put them in a really bad position that can set you up for edgeguards.
I definitely agree. Using up b on the ladder is very intimidating because it is a very strong spike if you hit it, but you can choose not to. It's very ambiguous because of the cancelling