Lots of good discussion on this one! Tons of people saying DP is top tier, MG42 is B tier, and then other people saying the opposite! Seems like MG's are pretty well balanced!
Im telling you, try a squad full of maxed out vickers on semi auto and you will change your mind. I would take a vickers on semi-auto over a charlton, it is one of my favorite LMGs and I actually sometimes take it over the BAR in tunisia
imo DP should be S tier. The lower rate of fire makes it controllable, but more importantly it lets it shoot for longer and use less ammo. Combined with its fast reload it is better than most smgs as a close quarters weapon and can murder squads at range without the need to go prone.
I think another thing to consider is that I've noticed the MG34 tends to sway a little more when hipfiring compared to the MG42 which can be both a curse and a blessing
Based on all the MG's I've used, this list is pretty accurate from my perspective. The Breda is probably my least favorite LMG but it's still an LMG and can put out a lot of hurt, same goes for all the MG's.
When you have a Breda in a good position, with an ammo box nearby and a good sightline and something to perch it on, then you can get 10, 20, or more kills from one gunner. It's a unique weapon among the normal unlocks because even when everything is going right for you you're still wondering how much better you'd be doing with a different weapon. It's in that strange spot for a bad weapon to be in where it's perfectly functional but there's no reason to bring it over its competition besides lack of options.
Arguably better than the BAR but I respect the decision because I get killed by the BAR sometimes with my German MG squads. I find with the MG42 that makes me agree with a high A is that you're spending far more on it and gunners than you would for the MG34, and of course it wastes alot of ammo. But I still made the effort to get it and I'm not disappointed 👍
IMO the DP is really nice. Super stable, shoots very fast, and the best part is that it reloads FAR faster than the MG-34, so you can keep sending rounds down range without delay. Unlike the MG-34 and 42, the DP can actually afford to reload on the fly as it completes it around the speed that rifles reload
First campaign completion was Tunisia Axis lol. Really loved the Breda had a soft spot for it and the Zb-26 was just alright. The MG 34 tho judt cannot be topped tho lol. But my two favorite machine guns got trashed :(
Don't really disagree with anything you said apart from the ZB. I think it's underrated so I must be one of those "top tier" players you mentioned ;) But I also think all of the MG42/34/30s are overrated by many, they are too hard to control and fire accurately when you're on the move. I know they aren't designed for that and that's the point lol, but my playstyle is like yours so being aggressive/attacking a point with them is basically useless in my eyes
IMO some of these MGs really need a buff, specifically the Madsen, Chauchat, and Breda at least to their horizontal recoil. It makes very little sense that these very low capacity, slow rate of fire LMGs have such a huge kick to them Pretty much everything here is spot on though
Vickers is my fav LMG in the game - its the most accurate and has the best damage projection out of all of them. Its more accurate then some bolties and even outranges most of em. Has select fire as well, so just treat it as a semi with full auto ability. In fact with its ROF, range and damage projection its the best semi automatic wep in the game. Sights and recoil do suck balls tho.
As an Italian i approve of the hate towards the Breda It was actually the worst machine gun of the war,so much so that Italian soldiers called It colloquially "The Judas"
It's first time I hear sb complain about ZB. This gun is like slightly worse MG13 (excluding sights). I have very good memories with it back from CBT. (note: based on experience from cbt)
Thanks for putting in the effort to present something so informative and useful...and I wholeheartedly agree - the Breda is indeed pretty ordinary!...🙏
im an italian the breda is by far the worst machinegun in the game as it deserves to be there was no question where it was gonna end up on the teir list lol love the video great work
I wouldnt put anything without a semi auto setting in S tier. Using lmgs at long range is one of the main draws of the class and having to burst or focus on clicking fast is really obnoxious. I may be misremembering, but I think aside from at rifles and that one german bolt action, lmgs have the longest 1 tap range.
Almost all the accuracy things about the bren are myths. Even if it was laser accurate, it would still have a lot of dispersion from recoil. Its accurate "for an lmg" of the day, but thats still like 4 or 5 moa. Probably worse with wartime production 303. Its just a gun, theres nothing magic about it.
I like the MG42 sight over MG34, and its recoil is actually lower per shot but because of the high fire rate it sways around more on longer burst. DT is garbage, its recoil is insanely bad if you want to hold the trigger and the bullest fly over the place even when braced! Its deffo not better then the DP27 which at least can be accurate... it should be seriously buffed to be any sort of usefull when the PPSH exists which has more ammo no recoil, better sights and it can run and gun which you need to do since you are atacking most of the time...
Man, I'm so sorry but I have to disagree with the MG42's placement. At long range, accuracy with the 34 is shit; it takes so much time to get the sights precisely on target. 42 at long range is easy: generally aim at target and 'brrrrt' = near guaranteed kill. I'll admit I thought it would be shit when I had seven mg34s and one 42, but the 42 was so much better that I ended up replacing all of them. Ammo is really not an issue if you have an engineer and/or large ammo pouches.
Lots of good discussion on this one! Tons of people saying DP is top tier, MG42 is B tier, and then other people saying the opposite! Seems like MG's are pretty well balanced!
Just for asking why i have sell spread with a M1918 than with a M1918A2 (full stars)
You know that the mg 42 doesnt fire 1000 rounds/min it fires 1200-1500r/min what has 900r/min is the mg 34
Im telling you, try a squad full of maxed out vickers on semi auto and you will change your mind. I would take a vickers on semi-auto over a charlton, it is one of my favorite LMGs and I actually sometimes take it over the BAR in tunisia
imo DP should be S tier. The lower rate of fire makes it controllable, but more importantly it lets it shoot for longer and use less ammo. Combined with its fast reload it is better than most smgs as a close quarters weapon and can murder squads at range without the need to go prone.
Agreed, even without either recoil perks
Agreed and you get in real early in game rank 9(in Berlin) if I am not mistaken
I think another thing to consider is that I've noticed the MG34 tends to sway a little more when hipfiring compared to the MG42 which can be both a curse and a blessing
The mg34 is quite the saving grace. Not only is it in every campaign, but it is also cheap with it costing 1 silver in berlin.
Based on all the MG's I've used, this list is pretty accurate from my perspective. The Breda is probably my least favorite LMG but it's still an LMG and can put out a lot of hurt, same goes for all the MG's.
When you have a Breda in a good position, with an ammo box nearby and a good sightline and something to perch it on, then you can get 10, 20, or more kills from one gunner. It's a unique weapon among the normal unlocks because even when everything is going right for you you're still wondering how much better you'd be doing with a different weapon.
It's in that strange spot for a bad weapon to be in where it's perfectly functional but there's no reason to bring it over its competition besides lack of options.
Arguably better than the BAR but I respect the decision because I get killed by the BAR sometimes with my German MG squads. I find with the MG42 that makes me agree with a high A is that you're spending far more on it and gunners than you would for the MG34, and of course it wastes alot of ammo. But I still made the effort to get it and I'm not disappointed 👍
I really wish there was an M1919A6 for the US. It seems a bit ridiculous that there is a Bren for the Americans but no M1919A6.
Well, your prayer had been answered. And it's definitely s-tier
IMO the DP is really nice. Super stable, shoots very fast, and the best part is that it reloads FAR faster than the MG-34, so you can keep sending rounds down range without delay. Unlike the MG-34 and 42, the DP can actually afford to reload on the fly as it completes it around the speed that rifles reload
agree,i personally love dp - btw i hope it will get soon rotating drum animation ._.
I prefer DPM more as I feel it is the most stable and accurate one out of three dp guns
@@theinvisiblehand9281 ye i prefer moscow-dp , berlin-dpm :)
@@theinvisiblehand9281 but dpm feels to me as best in buildings/ like bigger ppsh-41 :D
First campaign completion was Tunisia Axis lol. Really loved the Breda had a soft spot for it and the Zb-26 was just alright. The MG 34 tho judt cannot be topped tho lol. But my two favorite machine guns got trashed :(
Don't really disagree with anything you said apart from the ZB. I think it's underrated so I must be one of those "top tier" players you mentioned ;) But I also think all of the MG42/34/30s are overrated by many, they are too hard to control and fire accurately when you're on the move. I know they aren't designed for that and that's the point lol, but my playstyle is like yours so being aggressive/attacking a point with them is basically useless in my eyes
Agreed MG 34/42 are best used while prone coz once you start fireing they move all over the place
It takes practice and some dying but they can be used to push the objective like this, and can cause some real chaos
IMO some of these MGs really need a buff, specifically the Madsen, Chauchat, and Breda at least to their horizontal recoil. It makes very little sense that these very low capacity, slow rate of fire LMGs have such a huge kick to them
Pretty much everything here is spot on though
Vickers is my fav LMG in the game - its the most accurate and has the best damage projection out of all of them. Its more accurate then some bolties and even outranges most of em. Has select fire as well, so just treat it as a semi with full auto ability. In fact with its ROF, range and damage projection its the best semi automatic wep in the game. Sights and recoil do suck balls tho.
DP27 at B. 😢 That thing carried my Berlin squads until I got the PPSh
As an Italian i approve of the hate towards the Breda It was actually the worst machine gun of the war,so much so that Italian soldiers called It colloquially "The Judas"
It's first time I hear sb complain about ZB. This gun is like slightly worse MG13 (excluding sights). I have very good memories with it back from CBT. (note: based on experience from cbt)
hey to each their own. It's a gun that personally I despise, but lots of people tell me it's good
Thanks for putting in the effort to present something so informative and useful...and I wholeheartedly agree - the Breda is indeed pretty ordinary!...🙏
I don't use the BAR often because I feel like it is too easy. It's not very fun.
im an italian the breda is by far the worst machinegun in the game as it deserves to be there was no question where it was gonna end up on the teir list lol love the video great work
I wouldnt put anything without a semi auto setting in S tier. Using lmgs at long range is one of the main draws of the class and having to burst or focus on clicking fast is really obnoxious.
I may be misremembering, but I think aside from at rifles and that one german bolt action, lmgs have the longest 1 tap range.
Vickers-Berthier is incredibly good as a sniper rifle.
Like this list even if i havent tried the Allies mgs yet ^^
As an American player there is nothing that you can do about it the 12.7machine gun is the best one (if we talk about tanks)
oh yeah the .50 is amazing. But this is all just for gunner weapons
@@HeyQuadro ye the best one for infantry (in my opinion) is the BAR good fire power and perfect in every situations
DP is definitely A in Moscow but B in Berlin. I agree with your placement. Breda is hot trash, i have no idea how people use it.
Lewis gun in B Tier....un-subscribed lol. Great video man.
Charlton top of S tier, but I might be biased in the fact that I asked for it.
Breda mod 20 SSSSS tier
i just realized theres no dp28 lol
Dp-28 is just another name for the Dp-27.
@@nakulaman that’s weird
Just got the season pass should I get a gold vehicle or should I wait till next season to get something ?
just wait
MG42 is more accurate than the MG34 and you will notice it at range.
Yep, what you said. Easier to get kills at long range with mg42.
ZB-26 is a hip fire monster
Almost all the accuracy things about the bren are myths. Even if it was laser accurate, it would still have a lot of dispersion from recoil.
Its accurate "for an lmg" of the day, but thats still like 4 or 5 moa. Probably worse with wartime production 303.
Its just a gun, theres nothing magic about it.
Hey squat bros!
I like the MG42 sight over MG34, and its recoil is actually lower per shot but because of the high fire rate it sways around more on longer burst.
DT is garbage, its recoil is insanely bad if you want to hold the trigger and the bullest fly over the place even when braced! Its deffo not better then the DP27 which at least can be accurate... it should be seriously buffed to be any sort of usefull when the PPSH exists which has more ammo no recoil, better sights and it can run and gun which you need to do since you are atacking most of the time...
thanks for the guide
Here's y'all not playing the new browning mg
the zb26 is trash cuz u only have 20 rounds to shoot at your anemy with rlly fast fire rates tht instantly dried out your entire meg
MG45 #1... MG42 #2...MG34 #3
Quadro , when are you going to post another F2P update?
when theres something worth doing a F2P update for. Right now, it's pretty much just grinding for the Jumbo
Madsen is D tier
Pistol tier list
Nagant > everything else
Best LMG is a premium, PAY TO WIN
Sup Quadro
Damn no DPM? It’s the best Russian lmg in the game
DPM is just folded into the DP-27. Theyre effectively the same weapon
Mg42 is the best one in the game hahaha
Kinda ironic when the zb 26 was very accurate in real life and its pretty shit in the game
fg 42 is above s
Breda mod. 30 > Madsen
They’re all shit until they make the bipods anything other than cosmetic
Man, I'm so sorry but I have to disagree with the MG42's placement. At long range, accuracy with the 34 is shit; it takes so much time to get the sights precisely on target. 42 at long range is easy: generally aim at target and 'brrrrt' = near guaranteed kill. I'll admit I thought it would be shit when I had seven mg34s and one 42, but the 42 was so much better that I ended up replacing all of them.
Ammo is really not an issue if you have an engineer and/or large ammo pouches.