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Everything you are saying is spot on. Bought my tractor with bucket, grapple and tiller. Wasn’t long before I bought rake, forks, quick hitch....bla bla bla. Cost of maintenance has to be factored in too. Now I am building a new barn just so I can store everything because my 50x30 pole barn is running out of space. Love your videos, very practical and relevant info. Best of luck to you.
You do a great job stating how important it is to grease your machine. I have never seen anyone make a point of cleaning the zerks well before you lubricate. You don't want to force abrasive schmutts into your load bearing surfaces. Pivots points die because of dirty zerks.
Hi Courtney, you are 100% right about costs adding up. When I bought my newest tractor last spring (John Deere 4066r). I had to also purchase the implements I would need. Such as a Frontier 4- in-1 bucket, front and rear hydraulics, wheel weights, 2 - 55 gallon drums of washer solvent filled in the rear tires (930 lbs), John Deere Quick Hitch, John Deere ballast box, 84" Frontier finishing mowing deck and a 84" Frontier hydraulic snow plow. I can't forget one of my best investments, an 84" length of polyurethane cutting edge for my plow so I don't tear up my driveway (purchased from my good friends at "Good Works Tractors"! Sometimes the least of your worries is the purchase price of just the tractor itself. Good video as usual. Jack Venturi
Very true. We often just turn a blind eye. Very real but mostly necessary costs of ownership...Good public service message and a great marketing video. Nice job!
Love your content! I have recently taken on my grandfathers 1975 John Deere 400 Hydrostatic garden tractor with a few attachments and looking to tackle a full rebuild. Any ideas and parts you can assist with would be helpful.
Can't give you any help with parts, but will say that those machines are definitely popular and sought after. It's a great machine and worth the time to restore.
@@GoodWorksTractors thanks 🙏 Is there a size difference with all of the 3 point attachments you have specifically at the 3 point position or is that more so defined by “category 0,1,2, etc?
Out of all the tiny tractor channels, Good Works Tractors is my favorite now, because of honesty about cost and other aspects of owning a tractor. I would never consider anything less than 50hp, but I have learn a lot from this channel!
Last sunday I was "playing" on John Deere website building/pricing a 3046r. Adding attachments, options, gadgets, etc. I stop playing this game when the price reached 90 000$... and I wasn't done yet!
Never thought up front about needing an extra garage but after the third tractor I had to build one for them. That was one of the best investments I have made. Love the second garage, a great escape when needed. 😁🙂
Great video made me go over my list of things I factored in to buying a tractor make sure I didn’t miss a thing keep the videos coming better then what’s on Tv these days
Your not kidding I got a 1025r and a few attachments and a trailer within about 3 months. Fyi we had talked before about the factory 3rd function for a 1025r and the summit diverter, finally got ahold of my local dealer its $900 for the factory 3rd function. I just thought I'd let you know
Wonderful video! Thank you for this as it is incredibly informative. The biggest shocker I had was my annual insurance and license plates. I don’t use my tractor for any commercial purposes and, knock wood, no claims, yet the two add up to about $2000.00 per year! I would characterize that as a whopper of a hidden cost too. Stay safe!
My wife said that in 2006 when we bought a cub cadet lawn tractor. She said that again in 2019 when I wanted a BX1880 to replace the cub. I have a B2601 she was afraid bx would be too small. We have been married 40 years. The B2601 is amazing.
I really wish dealer's would also be this informative like you... like yes we get it you wanna sell sell sell.... but it does us customers no good if we are not making the best educated purchases. Thanks, I will be ordering attachments from you soon! Cause I realize there was attachments I will need and wasn't inform much about it or at all.
My first ever tractor (B2601 with loader) is to be delivered soon and I'm wondering if an enclosed 6x12 trailer (6 1/2 ' interior height) will be big enough to tow it around behind my half ton pickup. Any thoughts on that? Thanks for your videos, they've helped a lot!
You may have to curl the bucket to make that fit. Setting in the garage with bucket flat/ 3 point arms up I'm 144". Lowering the arms may shorten a little.
@@bhall7997 thanks! It's a short V, so a couple extra inches beyond 12' and maybe if I back it in the 3 point will fit better in the V. Anyhow, thanks again for your videos!
Great video, so far most of my attachments have been used but even then there are costs. Bought a used snow blower, no sub frame missing drive shaft and then whoever had it before me did not use the skid shoes so this summer need to buy a new shell for the blower. I failed to look close at the whole thing when I bought used
@@GoodWorksTractors not to worry I'm not mad or upset it's just life and I should have looked closer. Things happen everyday so we just have to adjust for it. Besides when we took the old blower apart and put it on the new shell I really got to see how it all worked.
Hey. This is a weird question. Can a 1025r push/pull your pickup up the driveway at the shop? I part out burbans & pickups. I didn't think a small tractor would work, but maybe you could find out.
Added the 3rd function hydraulic lines to my JD 4720 for a grapple, if I would have did it when tractor was new the kit was $400, 10 years later the kit was obsolete and piece by piece it cost me $1100 from Deere doing it myself, seems like it’s always cheaper to do it when buying the tractor new as a kit, I could have went aftermarket but I wanted it to look factory
Yep. I've found that adding when new is typically cheaper vs afterwards. In your case, a decade worth of inflation didn't help either. Thanks for sharing Paul!
Good morning. I'm not sure I would call attachments or a 3rd function valve a "hidden cost" per se, as those costs are right up front when buying "new". Guys and gals looking to buy new/used should definitely do their homework before pulling the trigger and your videos are a great starting point. The biggest "hidden" cost that dealers never bring up until it time to sign on the dotted line for your new toy is INSURANCE. This seems to be something that nobody wants to talk about, and just like a new car, that tractor isn't leaving the dealership w/o insurance. I called my ins. co. (Progressive) and they told me I was covered "anywhere in the world", but digging deeper with the person on the other end of the lane found that the max coverage was based on a percentage of what my homeowners was worth. in short, it only covered half of the cost of a new 30k tractor. By contrast, Kubota's KTAC ins. is about a dollar a day and chatting with those who have used it, their experience has always been trouble free even for thing most of us would think would not be covered. KTAC covered one guys cab door ($1,200) when he backed up with the door open and it clipped a tree, not once, nor twice, but SIX times! We ended up wrapping the total cost for 8 years ins. into our financing as it was 8 years @ 0%.
When you see an advertised price on tv, on the internet, etc, it almost never includes those items. So, when you see that tractor price of $20,000, you think, cool, that's all I gotta save for. But, a tiller is 2k, forks are $700, a grapple with the extra hydraulics is $3,000, etc. So, I would 100% consider them hidden costs. When a customer emails me or calls me and says "I need a tractor and I have $20,000 to spend", my first question back to them is "$20,000k for just the tractor or $20,000 for everything?".
Tip number one, buy a used tractor. tip number two, forget the grappler, pallet forks will do the job and more. I took a chance and bought a high time 4320 compact (from a JD dealer) that they just wanted to get off the lot.....too many things to fix. brake pedals frozen up from sitting outside, rockshaft went up but not down...no it wasn't the rate knob. I freed up the brakes, took the heavy cover off the rockshaft assy, little pilot valve got cleaned and new O rings. Cost me $6.00 , a can of BP blaster for the brakes, a rattle can of green paint and Bob's yer uncle I got a dandy for less than half price. Pallet forks from Titan and a tiller from Tractor Supply. BTW, dealer had replaced the diesel with a new one before they threw in the towel. Tach still shows over 5000
Fortunately I don’t have a trailer to accommodate my tractor. Every time someone wants to borrow my tractor I tell them they have to rent a trailer first! That way I never loan out my tractor.
Buying a tractor is like buying a small airplane. First you buy the airplane, then you buy the plane again in fitting instruments. How many instruments for the plane or how many attachments for the tractor are enough. Never enough. Maintenance over the lifetime of ownership really adds up too.
🤯 The 320r loader manual begs to differ. I'd definitely add some additional weight. manuals.deere.com/omview/OMPXX10906_19/OUO6064,0001B66_19_20180118.html
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks. I was trying to find that information. I would have trusted them if I hadn’t watched your other video about ballast already. As it is I’ve already told them to fill the rear tires with beet juice no matter what they think. Thanks for keeping us newbies safe!
It's gets expensive quickly if you are buying a tractor and attachments for the first time. We've been collecting tractors and attachments for over 50 years, I'll never sell what we've got even if it hasn't been used for years decades or whatever, it'll come in handy one day. And it does.
@@GoodWorksTractors it's something I've so many times people buy a tractor and then they can't afford to get the attachments they actually need to do the work that they have. If was starting from scratch I would be budgeting a further 30 - 40% on top of the tractor price for the attachments
I like you stuff my friend but I'm from Montana and it makes me cringe when you talk about hunting leases you and everyone wanting to lease hunting ground is wrecking the sport and pricing folks out find some of our land the peoples and go hunt it if you can't do that successfully start earlier and walk further and put in more work. Stop leasing land and I believe your paying even in my home state not good friend.
Supply and demand. I had free land to hunt. Guess what, so did everyone else. The farmer let anyone and everyone use his land. Not just for hunting, but hiking, walking dogs, riding bikes, etc. Hunted it for 5 years. I saw more people than deer during that 5 year span. I used to hunt a lot of public land as well. Besides all the previous mentioned issues, I heard bullets whiz by my head several times over the years, even wearing blaze orange. Michigan is not like Montana. You could see 5 hunters on 40 acres in Michigan instead of 5 hunters on 4,000 or 40,000 acres in Montana. I have hunted Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, and Kentucky as well. Hunting in Michigan is about as difficult as it gets for land access and pricing. Not enough land for the amount of hunters even with the recent decline in popularity. Now I pay for my hunting lease. I can safely hunt, safely take my kids out, and I have one lease partner to offset the cost. I still have to deal with trespassers, but that's been getting less of an issue every year as we make friends with the neighbors. Someday, I'll have my very own ground. Leasing ground is exponentially cheaper than buying though. Everyone's situation is different. Thanks for following along.
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Everything you are saying is spot on. Bought my tractor with bucket, grapple and tiller. Wasn’t long before I bought rake, forks, quick hitch....bla bla bla. Cost of maintenance has to be factored in too. Now I am building a new barn just so I can store everything because my 50x30 pole barn is running out of space. Love your videos, very practical and relevant info. Best of luck to you.
You do a great job stating how important it is to grease your machine.
I have never seen anyone make a point of cleaning the zerks well before you lubricate. You don't want to force abrasive schmutts into your load bearing surfaces. Pivots points die because of dirty zerks.
Do you ever have a problem with all your fluids being stored in that cold garage?
Good info!
Thank you sir!
Excellent presentation
Thank you! Cheers!
What is the ball park cost of your three point balance box
The one I'm designing? I'm not sure yet
Hi Courtney, you are 100% right about costs adding up. When I bought my newest tractor last spring (John Deere 4066r). I had to also purchase the implements I would need. Such as a Frontier 4- in-1 bucket, front and rear hydraulics, wheel weights, 2 - 55 gallon drums of washer solvent filled in the rear tires (930 lbs), John Deere Quick Hitch, John Deere ballast box, 84" Frontier finishing mowing deck and a 84" Frontier hydraulic snow plow. I can't forget one of my best investments, an 84" length of polyurethane cutting edge for my plow so I don't tear up my driveway (purchased from my good friends at "Good Works Tractors"! Sometimes the least of your worries is the purchase price of just the tractor itself. Good video as usual. Jack Venturi
Haha, thank you sir!
Very true. We often just turn a blind eye. Very real but mostly necessary costs of ownership...Good public service message and a great marketing video. Nice job!
Thank you sir!
Hi Courtney, Spot on with the budget! 23k for the TLB & MMM, now up over 30k with attachments and still growing..........
Crazy how it all adds up!
Love your content! I have recently taken on my grandfathers 1975 John Deere 400 Hydrostatic garden tractor with a few attachments and looking to tackle a full rebuild. Any ideas and parts you can assist with would be helpful.
Can't give you any help with parts, but will say that those machines are definitely popular and sought after. It's a great machine and worth the time to restore.
@@GoodWorksTractors thanks 🙏
Is there a size difference with all of the 3 point attachments you have specifically at the 3 point position or is that more so defined by “category 0,1,2, etc?
You got my thumbs up for sure.
I need to look closer at that racking system briefly shown in this video and get some of my attachments off the floor!
Out of all the tiny tractor channels, Good Works Tractors is my favorite now, because of honesty about cost and other aspects of owning a tractor. I would never consider anything less than 50hp, but I have learn a lot from this channel!
Very kind, I appreciate it!
What do you think of using a skid loader for a number of the tasks on the farm rather than a tractor?
Definitely has it's place. I do love mine, but has a lot of downfalls as well.
Thanks for your, as usual, objective approach to the great information you provide.
Glad it was helpful!
Do you ship to Canada?
Last sunday I was "playing" on John Deere website building/pricing a 3046r. Adding attachments, options, gadgets, etc. I stop playing this game when the price reached 90 000$... and I wasn't done yet!
Good points. I made my tractor purchase , after intial requirements, based on storage, trailer and truck requirements.
Where did you get the hydraulic hose mount you are connecting your grapple to on your fel? Basically a 90 degree bracket. I can't find those anywhere.
Pro tip: Do NOT watch this video while your wife is in the room.
🤣👍I should have put a warning in the beginning of the video
Highest praise to you for your perspective, so much information, and such a clear manner of presenting it. Nice.
Thank you kindly!
Never thought up front about needing an extra garage but after the third tractor I had to build one for them. That was one of the best investments I have made. Love the second garage, a great escape when needed. 😁🙂
Haha, "after the third tractor". My kind of guy right here 😂😎👍
Great video made me go over my list of things I factored in to buying a tractor make sure I didn’t miss a thing keep the videos coming better then what’s on Tv these days
Haha, thanks so much. Have a great weekend!
Well, you covered a reality check quite gracefully, lol. Excellent video, Courtney!
Haha, thanks Belinda. Have a great weekend!
Your not kidding I got a 1025r and a few attachments and a trailer within about 3 months. Fyi we had talked before about the factory 3rd function for a 1025r and the summit diverter, finally got ahold of my local dealer its $900 for the factory 3rd function. I just thought I'd let you know
Wonderful video! Thank you for this as it is incredibly informative. The biggest shocker I had was my annual insurance and license plates. I don’t use my tractor for any commercial purposes and, knock wood, no claims, yet the two add up to about $2000.00 per year! I would characterize that as a whopper of a hidden cost too. Stay safe!
Yikes, that's a boatload! Fortunately no plates here in Michigan. Thanks Dean!
Honey honest last one.
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My wife said that in 2006 when we bought a cub cadet lawn tractor. She said that again in 2019 when I wanted a BX1880 to replace the cub. I have a B2601 she was afraid bx would be too small. We have been married 40 years. The B2601 is amazing.
I really wish dealer's would also be this informative like you... like yes we get it you wanna sell sell sell.... but it does us customers no good if we are not making the best educated purchases. Thanks, I will be ordering attachments from you soon! Cause I realize there was attachments I will need and wasn't inform much about it or at all.
I appreciate that sir. Thanks for following along!
My first ever tractor (B2601 with loader) is to be delivered soon and I'm wondering if an enclosed 6x12 trailer (6 1/2 ' interior height) will be big enough to tow it around behind my half ton pickup. Any thoughts on that? Thanks for your videos, they've helped a lot!
You may have to curl the bucket to make that fit. Setting in the garage with bucket flat/ 3 point arms up I'm 144". Lowering the arms may shorten a little.
@@bhall7997 thanks! It's a short V, so a couple extra inches beyond 12' and maybe if I back it in the 3 point will fit better in the V. Anyhow, thanks again for your videos!
Great video, so far most of my attachments have been used but even then there are costs. Bought a used snow blower, no sub frame missing drive shaft and then whoever had it before me did not use the skid shoes so this summer need to buy a new shell for the blower. I failed to look close at the whole thing when I bought used
Yikes, sorry to hear about the issues with the blower.
@@GoodWorksTractors not to worry I'm not mad or upset it's just life and I should have looked closer. Things happen everyday so we just have to adjust for it. Besides when we took the old blower apart and put it on the new shell I really got to see how it all worked.
Yep, good info for others to be aware of. Thanks for sharing Curt!
Hey. This is a weird question. Can a 1025r push/pull your pickup up the driveway at the shop? I part out burbans & pickups. I didn't think a small tractor would work, but maybe you could find out.
Good question. I doubt it, but maybe? Not something I'd want to do on a regular basis with that small of a tractor though.
I pushed a UPS truck up my snow covered drive with mine but, the truck was pulling also.
Sounds like I've gotta try it out 😂
I went the opposite route...I have a truck, a garage and a flatbed trailer but nothing to haul...so it makes sense now to buy a 1025R! Hahaha
Added the 3rd function hydraulic lines to my JD 4720 for a grapple, if I would have did it when tractor was new the kit was $400, 10 years later the kit was obsolete and piece by piece it cost me $1100 from Deere doing it myself, seems like it’s always cheaper to do it when buying the tractor new as a kit, I could have went aftermarket but I wanted it to look factory
Yep. I've found that adding when new is typically cheaper vs afterwards. In your case, a decade worth of inflation didn't help either. Thanks for sharing Paul!
@@GoodWorksTractors no doubt, crazy inflation on stuff!
I havent overlooked the need for a trailer, I just bought too many attachments 😂
Haha, well at least you don't have to worry about the trailer being too small!
This will be repetitive but , great video and as what was mentioned below " insurance " is another hidden factor.
Yes, forgot all about insurance. Keeps adding up! Thanks Rick!
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Are of a question than a comment. How do you convert a category 0 attachment to a category one attachment?
Change out pins. Probably won't be quick hitch compatible though as the spacing between the links will be different.
Good morning. I'm not sure I would call attachments or a 3rd function valve a "hidden cost" per se, as those costs are right up front when buying "new". Guys and gals looking to buy new/used should definitely do their homework before pulling the trigger and your videos are a great starting point. The biggest "hidden" cost that dealers never bring up until it time to sign on the dotted line for your new toy is INSURANCE. This seems to be something that nobody wants to talk about, and just like a new car, that tractor isn't leaving the dealership w/o insurance. I called my ins. co. (Progressive) and they told me I was covered "anywhere in the world", but digging deeper with the person on the other end of the lane found that the max coverage was based on a percentage of what my homeowners was worth. in short, it only covered half of the cost of a new 30k tractor.
By contrast, Kubota's KTAC ins. is about a dollar a day and chatting with those who have used it, their experience has always been trouble free even for thing most of us would think would not be covered. KTAC covered one guys cab door ($1,200) when he backed up with the door open and it clipped a tree, not once, nor twice, but SIX times! We ended up wrapping the total cost for 8 years ins. into our financing as it was 8 years @ 0%.
When you see an advertised price on tv, on the internet, etc, it almost never includes those items. So, when you see that tractor price of $20,000, you think, cool, that's all I gotta save for. But, a tiller is 2k, forks are $700, a grapple with the extra hydraulics is $3,000, etc. So, I would 100% consider them hidden costs.
When a customer emails me or calls me and says "I need a tractor and I have $20,000 to spend", my first question back to them is "$20,000k for just the tractor or $20,000 for everything?".
This is slightly unrelated but do you sell a 3 point carry-all? (not sure if that's the correct term or not)
I do sell the Big Tool Rack
Tractor price was minimal compared to the building it's in.
Haha, for sure!
Call your insurance company prior to lending your trailer out.. it will make you think twice
Yeah, same goes for your truck and tractor too! Haha!
Tip number one, buy a used tractor. tip number two, forget the grappler, pallet forks will do the job and more. I took a chance and bought a high time 4320 compact (from a JD dealer)
that they just wanted to get off the lot.....too many things to fix. brake pedals frozen up from sitting outside, rockshaft went up but not down...no it wasn't the rate knob. I freed up the brakes, took the heavy cover off the rockshaft assy, little pilot valve got cleaned and new O rings. Cost me $6.00 , a can of BP blaster for the brakes, a rattle can of green paint and Bob's yer uncle I got a
dandy for less than half price. Pallet forks from Titan and a tiller from Tractor Supply. BTW, dealer had replaced the diesel with a new one before they threw in the towel. Tach still shows over 5000
Thanks for sharing!
Did I miss it or did you mention insurance for equipment, trucks, trailers and, if you use your equipment to make money, liability insurance?
I didn't mention it, but couple folks commented below. Yep, those costs just keep adding up! :)
Lol...I just spent 38k for my 1025r with backhoe. This includes taxes for Washington state! This tractor is loaded!
From Foothills of NC. Great channel, thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Fortunately I don’t have a trailer to accommodate my tractor. Every time someone wants to borrow my tractor I tell them they have to rent a trailer first! That way I never loan out my tractor.
Buying a tractor is like buying a small airplane. First you buy the airplane, then you buy the plane again in fitting instruments. How many instruments for the plane or how many attachments for the tractor are enough. Never enough. Maintenance over the lifetime of ownership really adds up too.
Very true!
Just got a 3039r and the JD dealership says my box scraper is enough ballast. 🤨
🤯 The 320r loader manual begs to differ. I'd definitely add some additional weight.
manuals.deere.com/omview/OMPXX10906_19/OUO6064,0001B66_19_20180118.html
@@GoodWorksTractors Thanks. I was trying to find that information. I would have trusted them if I hadn’t watched your other video about ballast already. As it is I’ve already told them to fill the rear tires with beet juice no matter what they think. Thanks for keeping us newbies safe!
Question on that minimum weight. Do I need to do all three of the things it lists or do only one of them or?
40k for a 4066r lol yeah right. I need a 10k trailer now that I went from a jd790 to a kioti dk4210se.
You get the tractor, then you have maintenance and must buy accessories for it.
Its like having a wife. Just less expensive. LOL
Haha, shoot, maybe even get a couple tractors with that comparison! 🤣
@@GoodWorksTractors Oh, at least, and both with factory cabs too.
You pay a lot of green to buy green. Now I find your channel after I bought my tractor lol.
Ha! Thanks for watching George!
Nehme doch mal einen Branson in deinen Fuhrpark mit auf und teste den mal! Gruß!
Are you sending me a Branson? 🤣
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I'm learning. thanks for the video's. The tractor seems like the cheapest part of this, lol
Haha, maybe so! Thanks for watching!
Good thing I'm due to win the lottery any day now. Money will be no object, then.
Sweet. Let's start working on that tractor package! 🤣👍
“Color doesn’t matter” nooooooooooo
🤣🤯
Wrong! Get the color your wife likes... Makes her feel involved! Lol got much less flack when she decided the tractor should match the blue house.
@@nottingham82 I’m very much single and don’t plan on ever getting married. The roof on my house is green. Haha
It's gets expensive quickly if you are buying a tractor and attachments for the first time. We've been collecting tractors and attachments for over 50 years, I'll never sell what we've got even if it hasn't been used for years decades or whatever, it'll come in handy one day. And it does.
Sure does. Costs add up quick!
@@GoodWorksTractors it's something I've so many times people buy a tractor and then they can't afford to get the attachments they actually need to do the work that they have. If was starting from scratch I would be budgeting a further 30 - 40% on top of the tractor price for the attachments
I like you stuff my friend but I'm from Montana and it makes me cringe when you talk about hunting leases you and everyone wanting to lease hunting ground is wrecking the sport and pricing folks out find some of our land the peoples and go hunt it if you can't do that successfully start earlier and walk further and put in more work. Stop leasing land and I believe your paying even in my home state not good friend.
Supply and demand. I had free land to hunt. Guess what, so did everyone else. The farmer let anyone and everyone use his land. Not just for hunting, but hiking, walking dogs, riding bikes, etc. Hunted it for 5 years. I saw more people than deer during that 5 year span.
I used to hunt a lot of public land as well. Besides all the previous mentioned issues, I heard bullets whiz by my head several times over the years, even wearing blaze orange. Michigan is not like Montana. You could see 5 hunters on 40 acres in Michigan instead of 5 hunters on 4,000 or 40,000 acres in Montana. I have hunted Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, and Kentucky as well. Hunting in Michigan is about as difficult as it gets for land access and pricing. Not enough land for the amount of hunters even with the recent decline in popularity.
Now I pay for my hunting lease. I can safely hunt, safely take my kids out, and I have one lease partner to offset the cost. I still have to deal with trespassers, but that's been getting less of an issue every year as we make friends with the neighbors. Someday, I'll have my very own ground. Leasing ground is exponentially cheaper than buying though.
Everyone's situation is different. Thanks for following along.
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