@@GrimesRic I have the pitch but I fly a RAW running 4500mah 14s so it's a heavy bird compared to what you fly so may not be quite as elegant I think my low head speed setting from memory is 1200 rpm witch is likely best to make up for that extra weight 1100 may be a bit low.
@@michaeltward2859 but! It‘s a heavy monster 😃 my piuma was 4.0 or 4.2kg with the 3500mAh lipo. so i think it will be difficult to fly your raw really low rpm
Beautiful and graceful flight! I'm still getting to know my Piuma (6s setup) but really like it so far. I want to explore the lower headspeed flying, my current setup has 1400 as the lowest. Obviously it flies great lower than that!
@@GrimesRic I flew mine yesterday at 1200, and it still had plenty of authority! I'm going to drop to an 18T pinion so it's geared better, and I need to figure out why I'm getting some mild skid shakes at the lower speeds. I've installed the 70-90 damper configuration, but I've also read that removing the lower bearing support helps with low headspeed shakes. These things are always a challenge!
@JustPlaneChris you are right. The piuma has some issues with head wobble at low headspeeds. I think the problem is the small head from the raw 580. my kraken 700 ans specter 700 v2 are having none of those issues. I have installed the hardest dampers on the piuma and I only get headshake at very low rpm (around 900-600rpm or so)
Fantasic flight! Ive watched this at least a dozen times. 3-4 min flights are too short for me. Imitation is the biggest flatery, so hope you dont mind me building almost the same heli with your specs. What head dampers did you use to get rid of the dreaded Piuma lhs wobbles? Thanks for being an inspiration ;)
Fliege jetzt seit vier Monaten. Drei Monate davon nur fp Heli in der 120 Klasse von Blade . Seit einem Monat fliege ich auch meinen kleinen cp Heli den M1 evo von OMP ist glaube ich 100 Klasse der Kleine. Schönen Sonntag noch 👍😎👍
schön dass du dieses tolle hobby für dich entdeckt hast! als nächsten step würde ich dir zu einem Protos 380 / Omp M4 oder Steam 420 raten. Fliegt deutlich erwachsener und „träger“ als ein OMP M1. Viel spaß noch und auch schönen Sonntag 😎
Fantastic flying mate this is awesome, subscribed now for more. How are you filming this, do you have a gopro or something similar attached to your hat?
Wonderful flying. Really goes to show you don't need to be putting down a bunch of power to do very technical 3D flying. I'm putting my Piuma together now and hoping to have a bank set up for low headspeed cruising. I like all that extra efficiency and flight time you get to work on your skills. I'm wondering if say the default xnova 4025 560kv motor they recommend might be able to reach 1100 on just 6s, letting you fly even lighter for the low headspeed setup. Then be able to throw the second pack in and run up to 1950rpm if you want. All with only bank/profile changes in the FBL. What durometer orings are you running in the head and did you have to use that other bushing that allows for more deflection? Also are you using default tail pulleys? I'm building with default everything to get a baseline to start, both 90 durometer orings and the lower play bushing.
@@rcvg69420 as far as i can remember I just bought the package with the head dampening from sab and tried all of the dampening combinations. at the and I stuck with the hardest dampening option to get rid of the head wobbles. Concerning the headspeeds you have to do your calculations. But I should be possible to fly 2000rpm on 12S and around 1000rpm with 6S. :) if you want to fly 2000 and 1000rpm all on 6S I think that‘s not possible.
@@GrimesRic thanks! I was thinking 1000 is probably too low, but I used a head speed calculator and 5% headroom on the esc on 6s with my current pinion doesn't quite look like it could reach 1100. Around 1000 is all it could do on 6s. So I'll prob just be running 12s all the time. Good to hear you ended up with the firm damping, that's what's in mine and it's the default setting. Good to see it's working well at low head speed. Thanks again!
wunderschöner weicher kunstflug (relaxed 3D) 👍👍👍. tolle figuren und weiche übergänge, gefällt mir richtig gut!!!! - viele grüße aus hangelsberg/brandenburg, frank
Nice flight. Really happy you return after crash xlpower. How do you this new machine? Compared with the xlpower at same headspead, which one do you prefer? At my point of view, this heli is more your flying style on all the SAB.
Nice flight ! Smooooth-operator :o) 10 Minutes on a 3500-pack is awsome ! What would be the time on 1500rpm... and on 1900 ? I rebuild mine from 6s (4025-1200, Kontronik 140lv) to 12s.. just is not my cup of tea (190Ah on a correction, ahum). Now 12s, Hw 130 hv and Xnova 4030 560. How hot is your Motor after flying ? Can you still hold it with your fingers ?
Du bist am Ball geblieben ;) Klasse Flug, Besitze den Piuma ebenfalls und finde ihn einfach nur genial. Weiterhin guten Flug. Was ist das für ne Haube?
Hey danke dir! Klar, immer am Ball bleiben :) mittlerweile bin ich mit dem Piuma auch zufrieden, hab lange gebraucht… mit den MS Rapids 710 bin ich aber super happy auf dem Piuma. Die Haube ist custom made von SAB, im Design vom 580 Nitro
@JoJo-bw5px ich fand das Ansprechverhalten an der TS irgendwie merkwürdig. Sehr kippelig. Aber wird zum großen teil an den RT Ultimate 700 gelegen haben.
@@GrimesRic ich habe mal wieder ne gopro getestet... Aber mit dem Handy werden die Aufnahmen einfach besser. Jedenfalls wenns rein ums Flüge filmen geht.
@@Johs_Heli_Videos ja besonders iphones sind bei der Videoqualität einfach ziemlich unschlagbar. Auch der Autofokus ist beim Iphone top, der Heli bleibt eigentlich immer scharf. Und gopros haben einen zu großen Weitwinkel fürs Flüge filmen.
■ I love your style of flying. Fun to watch! I like smooth! You got it man...
thanks mate!
This is my favorite style of flying. Smooth transitions, slow loops, amazing flight! And that sound ❤️
Nice smooth clean flying !! Good work !
thank you!
Perfect - well done!
Excellent flight. My style of flying! Appreciate the setup info as well.
Thanks mate!
I hardly ever sit through an entire flight video but this was amazing, I need to learn to just enjoy low headspeed and do some flow work like this.
glad to hear that you enjoyed it 😊 sometimes ultra low rpm can be really fun! But you‘ll need at least 14° collective pitch
@@GrimesRic I have the pitch but I fly a RAW running 4500mah 14s so it's a heavy bird compared to what you fly so may not be quite as elegant I think my low head speed setting from memory is 1200 rpm witch is likely best to make up for that extra weight 1100 may be a bit low.
@michaeltward2859 wow 14S that‘s a monster 😁
@@GrimesRic Bright pink too! So it's a fabulous monster :P
@@michaeltward2859 but! It‘s a heavy monster 😃 my piuma was 4.0 or 4.2kg with the 3500mAh lipo. so i think it will be difficult to fly your raw really low rpm
Beautiful and graceful flight! I'm still getting to know my Piuma (6s setup) but really like it so far. I want to explore the lower headspeed flying, my current setup has 1400 as the lowest. Obviously it flies great lower than that!
Thanks a lot chris! Yeah try 1100 - you just need some smooth thumbs but on 6S it should work pretty fine
@@GrimesRic I flew mine yesterday at 1200, and it still had plenty of authority! I'm going to drop to an 18T pinion so it's geared better, and I need to figure out why I'm getting some mild skid shakes at the lower speeds. I've installed the 70-90 damper configuration, but I've also read that removing the lower bearing support helps with low headspeed shakes. These things are always a challenge!
@JustPlaneChris you are right. The piuma has some issues with head wobble at low headspeeds. I think the problem is the small head from the raw 580. my kraken 700 ans specter 700 v2 are having none of those issues. I have installed the hardest dampers on the piuma and I only get headshake at very low rpm (around 900-600rpm or so)
Fantasic flight! Ive watched this at least a dozen times. 3-4 min flights are too short for me. Imitation is the biggest flatery, so hope you dont mind me building almost the same heli with your specs. What head dampers did you use to get rid of the dreaded Piuma lhs wobbles? Thanks for being an inspiration ;)
thanks buddy! glad you like it 👌 i used the hardest possible stock-dampeners. have fun with the lhs piuma :)
Such a nice flight
Fliege jetzt seit vier Monaten. Drei Monate davon nur fp Heli in der 120 Klasse von Blade . Seit einem Monat fliege ich auch meinen kleinen cp Heli den M1 evo von OMP ist glaube ich 100 Klasse der Kleine. Schönen Sonntag noch 👍😎👍
schön dass du dieses tolle hobby für dich entdeckt hast! als nächsten step würde ich dir zu einem Protos 380 / Omp M4 oder Steam 420 raten. Fliegt deutlich erwachsener und „träger“ als ein OMP M1. Viel spaß noch und auch schönen Sonntag 😎
Thing sounds rad‼️
Fantastic flying mate this is awesome, subscribed now for more.
How are you filming this, do you have a gopro or something similar attached to your hat?
thanks buddy ✌️
@@elitecol69 i have my iPhone 15 Pro attached to my head with a headstrap :)
Wonderful flying. Really goes to show you don't need to be putting down a bunch of power to do very technical 3D flying.
I'm putting my Piuma together now and hoping to have a bank set up for low headspeed cruising. I like all that extra efficiency and flight time you get to work on your skills. I'm wondering if say the default xnova 4025 560kv motor they recommend might be able to reach 1100 on just 6s, letting you fly even lighter for the low headspeed setup. Then be able to throw the second pack in and run up to 1950rpm if you want. All with only bank/profile changes in the FBL.
What durometer orings are you running in the head and did you have to use that other bushing that allows for more deflection? Also are you using default tail pulleys? I'm building with default everything to get a baseline to start, both 90 durometer orings and the lower play bushing.
@@rcvg69420 as far as i can remember I just bought the package with the head dampening from sab and tried all of the dampening combinations. at the and I stuck with the hardest dampening option to get rid of the head wobbles.
Concerning the headspeeds you have to do your calculations. But I should be possible to fly 2000rpm on 12S and around 1000rpm with 6S. :) if you want to fly 2000 and 1000rpm all on 6S I think that‘s not possible.
@@GrimesRic thanks! I was thinking 1000 is probably too low, but I used a head speed calculator and 5% headroom on the esc on 6s with my current pinion doesn't quite look like it could reach 1100. Around 1000 is all it could do on 6s.
So I'll prob just be running 12s all the time.
Good to hear you ended up with the firm damping, that's what's in mine and it's the default setting. Good to see it's working well at low head speed.
Thanks again!
wunderschöner weicher kunstflug (relaxed 3D) 👍👍👍. tolle figuren und weiche übergänge, gefällt mir richtig gut!!!! - viele grüße aus hangelsberg/brandenburg, frank
vielen Dank Frank!! Viele Grüße aus München!
Nice ! Schön smooth geflogen ! 👍
danke :) mir der Drehzahl geht auch nur smooth 😁
Nice flight. Really happy you return after crash xlpower.
How do you this new machine? Compared with the xlpower at same headspead, which one do you prefer?
At my point of view, this heli is more your flying style on all the SAB.
Hey! I like this machine especially in super low rpm. but the specter v2 is still my all time favourite
Would you mind sharing the details on where you got the canopy from? I love the Nitro color scheme with those blades!
hey it's custom painted directly from sab italy :) write them an email and you can get your own custom canopy exactly like you want it.
Awesome. Thank you. Love the smooth flight!
Nice flight ! Smooooth-operator :o) 10 Minutes on a 3500-pack is awsome ! What would be the time on 1500rpm... and on 1900 ?
I rebuild mine from 6s (4025-1200, Kontronik 140lv) to 12s.. just is not my cup of tea (190Ah on a correction, ahum).
Now 12s, Hw 130 hv and Xnova 4030 560.
How hot is your Motor after flying ? Can you still hold it with your fingers ?
Sorry forgot to reply :) thanks mate! The motor was pretty much cold after flight 😁 on 1100rpm really nothing gets hot or even very warm
Schöner Flug. Ich denke der Piuma passt sehr gut zu deinem Flugstil 👍
Very nice flying superb skills; how much pitch are you using with the 1100 rpm head speed?
13 or 13,5° and maybe also a little lightness in the vbar (also increases pitch)
Sehr schön geflogen 👍😀wie lange fliegst du denn schon um so gut zu sein?? 😎😎
hey danke dir ☺️ zum zeitpunkt des videos welches schon 1 Jahr alt ist bin ich ziemlich genau 4 Jahre geflogen
Very enjoyable to watch! Slower is better.
glad you like it
nice mate
Du bist am Ball geblieben ;) Klasse Flug, Besitze den Piuma ebenfalls und finde ihn einfach nur genial. Weiterhin guten Flug. Was ist das für ne Haube?
Hey danke dir! Klar, immer am Ball bleiben :) mittlerweile bin ich mit dem Piuma auch zufrieden, hab lange gebraucht… mit den MS Rapids 710 bin ich aber super happy auf dem Piuma. Die Haube ist custom made von SAB, im Design vom 580 Nitro
@@GrimesRic Was war dein Problem mit dem Heli?
@JoJo-bw5px ich fand das Ansprechverhalten an der TS irgendwie merkwürdig. Sehr kippelig. Aber wird zum großen teil an den RT Ultimate 700 gelegen haben.
Lipo 6s? 5000 mh?
video description! 12S 3500
Kurze Frage: Ist das die originale 580 Nitro Haube, oder eine bei SAB bestellte extra lackierte Piuma Haube?
Ist eine custom haube von sab. Die vom 580er wäre zu klein..
At this headspeed, you are using how much of cyclic?
Hey Pedro. What exactly do you mean?
@@GrimesRic pitch
@HelifunPortugal on vbar you allways use 8° cyclic :)
Geil
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Mit was filmst du deine Flüge?
aktuell noch ein iphone 12 Pro, bald iphone 15 pro 😊
@@GrimesRic danke dir :)
@@GrimesRic ich habe mal wieder ne gopro getestet... Aber mit dem Handy werden die Aufnahmen einfach besser. Jedenfalls wenns rein ums Flüge filmen geht.
@@Johs_Heli_Videos ja besonders iphones sind bei der Videoqualität einfach ziemlich unschlagbar. Auch der Autofokus ist beim Iphone top, der Heli bleibt eigentlich immer scharf. Und gopros haben einen zu großen Weitwinkel fürs Flüge filmen.