The New Thing Uber Wealthy Doomsday Preppers Are Buying
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- Опубликовано: 7 ноя 2024
- Wealthy people are buying "golden passports" to other countries so they can have a backup citizenship plan. Ana Kasparian and Cenk Uygur discuss on The Young Turks. Watch TYT LIVE on weekdays 6-8 pm ET. ruclips.net/user/the...
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"Of all the promotional emails I’ve received, the one that I got in February from St. Kitts and Nevis is probably the strangest. For a limited time only, it said, this small island nation in the Caribbean could offer me citizenship at a $25,000 discount.
Why I wound up getting an email like this is a minor mystery. I cover wealth, and I find the logistics of being rich extremely amusing. But being able to drop $125,000 on a second passport - which was the sale price - and laughing about it are not the same.
More likely than not, the sender was trying to tap the hottest new market for secondary citizenship: the United States. Henley & Partners, the world’s premier passport brokering company, said that in 2022, more Americans inquired about citizenship by investment - programs that allow people to pay for citizenship instead of gaining it by demonstrating their ties to a country - than in any previous year. Americans were also the leading nationality for submitting applications."
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Thumbs up to Anna for saying that the top risk-takers are really risk-averse and will leave the country at the first hint of unrest. They only want tax breaks and are hardly patriotic. But look at the irony that they are the ones who have provided donations to the "party of unrest" in the first place.
Like Whoopi Goldberg
It’s like a ants. They go to a area. Strip it for all it’s worth. Take everything from everyone. Once it’s in ruin they flee to the next area to repeat the process.
No it's even worse than, "If your kid has cancer, we're going to let them die." it's "If your kid has cancer, YOU'RE gonna let them die if you don't sign your future away." This country makes me sad.
You should be paying us reparations and until you do your opinion don't mean nothing most people can't even stand y'all no more 😂
Makes you wonder at what point it would just be cheaper for the rich to help poor people.
They can't do that Jesus said most rich people would die and go to hell
excellent point
Question why should the rich help the poor again? Most of them were also once poor very few of them are generational wealth. Top 10 billionaires today came from the ground up
@@jortal7441You’re missing the point. It’s in their self interest. Making society better is what keeps the bottom half of society from violently overthrowing the upper class. Obviously they can do what they want with their own money. Lots of things that help society also help rich people make more money, like infrastructure.
@@jortal7441 idk…morals, ethics, burning in hell- hard to choose
A very close Taiwanese-American friend of mine who is a kidney transplant recipient goes back and forth to Taiwan for health care and would NEVER EVER EVER give up her Taiwanese citizenship for that very reason. What SHE'S afraid of is China invading Taiwan.
It’s easier to run away from your problems than to actually do something about them.
And a smart person knows when to leave a party. before the cops show up
Many Americans who can afford it marry Europeans to get an EU passport. Italy went even further and any Italian-American who can prove that they are of immigrant descent can easily apply for Italian citizenship. British citizenship is also very popular with Americans. With an EU passport, you are welcome in more countries than with an American one.
@@jeffreydahmersribshack9570 oh i see now YOU ARE A CHILD
If they want to go let them go. Just make sure they pay their taxes on the way out.
Living abroad, with or without a passport from that country does NOT absolve you from paying taxes to the U.S. government. For that to occur, one has to give up their U.S. citizenship. The U.S. has made it very expensive and very uncomfortable to renounce citizenship.
Im in La Cruz, Mexico on the outskirts of Puerto Vallarta. Yes, this entire coastline area has been overrun by Canadians & Americans, little fishing villages have been totally gentrified, high rises have shot up everywhere, and real estate prices have skyrocketed
Like Jim Carrie said on a talk show , Canadians are happy people because if we get sick , God forbid but you don't have to sell your house in order to pay off a medical bill , peace of mind helps to be happy and welcoming
So, we left the U.S. and are in the middle of becoming citizens of a Latin American country for just these reasons.
As a married lesbian couple, we were increasingly attacked and threatened in rural Washington. We moved there from our safe oasis of Santa Cruz CA because of financial reasons. We figured we'd be safe living between Portland and Seattle. We were wrong. Watching the direction the U.S. is moving in, we decided we needed to move somewhere safer.
We've never felt safer than we do right now. It's unbelievable, the lies we are told in the U.S. about other countries. My parents(in their late 70's) were so fearful about our decision. They honestly didn't believe there would be modern conveniences here, like internet, and that we'd be totally unsafe. No matter how much we explained our discomfort and danger in the U.S., I don't really think anyone in our families understood.
We're not rich enough to "buy" a passport so it will take time. Time well spent!
Why would you want to move out of the People's Republic of Santa Cruz, where granola is mandatory and showers are optional? I live in rural Oregon (southern Oregon coast). We have some real conservative gun nuts here, but truth be know we all get along with each other and watch out for each other.
Okay El Howard. Nice for you, but are you harassed when you go to the grocery store? Does your house get vandalized regularly? Do your neighbors allow their dogs to attack you? Do your neighbors threaten to shoot your dog? Do your neighbors knock on your door to tell you that you will be the first people they shoot when the new civil war starts? Is your government rolling back rights that affect you negatively? Are you blind to the experiences of others around you or you just don't care? Easier not to see, I guess.
We moved from Santa Cruz bcs we couldn't afford CA any longer. Your description of Santa Cruz is 🙄 eyeball roll worthy only.
Maybe your experience is different than ours...Hmmmmm? Are you a straight, white guy? 🤔 Life in the U.S. is different for straight white guys than everyone else.
I want to do this as a trans woman. But I'm also horribly depressed and disabled, so no country would take me. Maybe if I lived in a different country though, I wouldn't be disabled with depression.
I moved to New Zealand quite a while ago, and I have been surprised at how many right-wing Americans came here too. Peter Thiel even bought a citizenship from the previous corrupt government. The corporate politicians in the US have done such a poor job of governing that they have made it a poor place to live.
As a left-wing American who moved to New Zealand, I have had the unpleasant experience of running into a few of these @$$holes, mostly during the first wave of the pandemic. One of them, who said he has been in NZ since 2017 (I arrived in 2019), eventually tried to accuse me of being a sheep for taking Covid seriously, that Ardern was secretly taking over everything - you know, the usual BS (and this exchange was around when the vaccines started becoming available in NZ). I snapped at him and said:
"So what the f^^^ are you doing here then? You have been here for much longer than me, and while you were here, you said you voted for Trump and the Republicans while here. So what the f^^^ are you still doing here? Why the f^^^ aren't you back in the US, where your dear 'leader' and party are supposedly fighting against what you are crying out against and could use your help - help that both of them have regularly been calling you for? Do you not trust your them enough to stay in US and help make that country great again? Or do you know actually better than trust anything they say or do? So could it be that you are here for the next victim of your side's terrorist schemes, to turn New Zealand into a bankrupted sh^thole nation like the US, which was what the previous government here tried to do? And while you are here claiming to not trust the vaccines, your party's representatives and senators were the very first to get them - and unlike your f^^^ing stupid conspiracy theories, there actually is verified public record of them getting vaxxed. So if you truly believe that what is happening in the US is how things should be done here, then you, as a supposedly proud American, should just STFU and let the US do what it always does: have the CIA depose yet another left-wing government through a violent coup and install a puppet dictator that will sign over everything to American business interests."
And yes, I do hope to become a naturalized Kiwi.
The wealthy should buy up New Zealand and take control of the government as well as the working class population. These brilliant people are a gift to humanity and need a safe place to survive should things go bad.
Canadian here, don't come here "UberAmericans", we're closed.
All other Americans, welcome!😊👋🇨🇦
And all American had to do is hold the rich accountable.
I did this, except I’m progressive. I feared the Trump presidency from the get go so I got my dual citizenship and bought a bunch of land in Jalisco, Mexico. Built a well and have access to unlimited spring water, built a house, and have a ton of livestock and land for farming. If things go south here, my ass is headed south.
Nice, but do you have a wine cellar and gelato freezer? If not, how can we know you are serious? haha
That sounds awesome.
@@ericpmoss I don’t drink, but there is a restaurant grade walk in freezer installed.
Okkkk there you deal with the cartels. Why haven’t you left yet
@@isabellathepinkpoodle639 Don’t worry, you’re not invited.
The ones in power create horror then run from it.
Companies taking advantage of rich people's paranoia is peak capitalism.
It's probably the only form of predatory capitalism I support.
If things get real enough that the richest among us have to flee with their purchased paperwork & treasure, you can bet that desperate, armed citizens would stake-out airports to intercept them.
the rich eating the rich
Rats preparing to flee the ship they chewed all the holes in?
It's crazy how such a simple thing as wanting to live a happy life in peace is impossible to achieve because of the greed and selfishness of others.
It's not impossible. Knowing what you want is the hardest part. Just don't get distracted.
Thank you! I am a proud Canadian 🇨🇦.
I have been paying close attention to American politics & am surprised daily by the behavior of some of the politicians.
If my daughter ever spoke to anyone like 'Rump' does, she would become very familiar with many books & the inside of the house. Good thing we don't live in Flordia, she would run out of books to read.
The problem with thinking you’re #1 is that you start believing it. Instead of bringing together the best ideas of every country America thought it had nothing else to learn. As an American who’s fallen through the huge cracks in the healthcare system I can safely say greed has corrupted the “idea” of America. America abandoned the golden rule for the “greed is good” virus and it’s destroying us.
🇨🇦❤️👍🥂
Donald Trump is a narcissistic baby man. He still thinks he is on the playground where name calling and bullying got him his way. Sad,sad, baby man
Well, Rob Ford was the most visible of your misbehaving politicians. I guess all countries, since all are part of the human race, have those we're proud of and those we're disgusted by. Sometimes in the very same human! But yeah, the nation's figurehead was a bad example.
Florida sucks. Its not fair for people to come.
'I just want healthcare". Pretty much sums it up.
Rich people were and are always able to find another passport. Murdoch became Ämerican" because of local media ownership laws, he then destroyed your country for a cheap buck.
Peter Thiel bought himself a citizenship in New Zealand
Not really happy having him trying to set up home in our little corner of the world.
There are so many RUclips channels from young people who have moved from the US to Europe. US citizens can't believe what they say about the work environment, the healthcare system, public transportation, healthy food and so on.
Expats? You mean American immigrants, right?
did you not know that expatriot is a word?
No, I dont want to live in the US for the rest if my life. I am a dual citizen Mex/US. Speak three languages and have my passport ready to go.
America should be mocked Anna. I'm so happy being a lower middle class person with a family, who just so happened to be an addict years ago. Who ended up with felony charges for a crime that's a misdemeanor today. Hence I can't drive my family into Canada and work as a pipefitter, pipe welder, industrial maintenance mechanic, or even a baker if they needed one. But I wouldn't be allowed into Canada, and many other countries because of what would be considered a disease in many of the countries in which I'd go..
I’m in the same situation, Bro, but I don’t know whether I’d be prevented from becoming employed elsewhere. I do know, however, that when my 92 year old mother and I recently visited Mexico, we had to exit the vehicle and stand about 50 yards away while they searched through it for contraband, all because of my background record. And I’m 72! 😡
A lot of Americans probably think
wakanda a real place and wouldn't mind getting a passport there.
Sad you sit on Indigenous lands saying that. It's not America It's Turtle Island. 🎉
There isn't a country that doesn't have problems, but the difference is that places like western europe have solved issues like guns and healthcare decades ago when America still struggling with those issues.
My wife and I are looking into possibly emigrating to New Zealand, if the Far Right continues its march toward making America into fascist Hungary.
If you're a liberal or a moderate & don't mind putting up with a bit stick - getting teased mercilessly for being American - for awhile, you'll blend in just fine. 😉
It's part of our Scottish egalitarianism background and humour and if you can take it, you'll be respected more. It passes. 😊
@@SalznPfeffer658 My wife and I (a queer couple) are classic liberals. Not Leftists. But not right-wing fascists by a long shot. Good, salty senses of humor. Willing to both take it--and dish it out. LOL
@@therealgaragegirls you will totally fit in then.
NZ has a very strong habit of practicing self-deprecating humour, it supports collective awareness as opposed to individual exceptional ism. This can be stifling for some (understandable) but those wanting to be part of strong community-focused societies will do well here.
Just hang in the big cities though cus NZ is still pretty provincial everywhere else as small towns usually lack LGBTQ community representation just because there's not a lot of members or of anyone in NZ! Kiwi society tends to appreciate no fuss "salt of the earth" people. 😊
@@SalznPfeffer658 If you look up "self-deprecating humor/humour" in the dictionary, you'll see my picture. Warning: I'm gorgeous! LOL Okay, that was kind of the opposite of self-deprecating. Yet, still self-deprecating, in a way... LOL It's a disorder, honestly. Do people tell you that you're funny? Or did you have a happy childhood? LOL
@@therealgaragegirls well, considering that I live in Germany now, people do not find me very amusing..at all...😐😆
So I gotta torment my twin online to balance my need to be silly. Like she's an insta and facebook fiend that uploads gorg pics up...and I replicate her pics with duckface, Blue Steel/Magnum and no make-up add-ons. Leaves her friends very confused and her super sheet-tee. 😁
Good luck and fingers crossed 🤞 you get to live where you get to be your authentic selves. 🤗
like ana said, there are countries where thereś an accelerated programme by which you can acquire citizenship if you invest in a bu. siness in the country, or buy property. There are other countries like ireland and italy where you can get citizenship of those nations if you can prove that at least one of your ancestors are from that country. There are also countries where you get the citizenship if you were born in that country. The thing you need to bear in mind is that if you are a citizen of a country that doesnt recognise dual citizenship, and you acquire another citizenship, you automatically lose the citizenship of the country of which you used to hold citizenship. you also have to bear in mind that, besides the rights you are entitled to as a passport holder of the country of which you acquire citizenship, you could also have responsibilities, such as conspription in the armed forces, or jury duty
Not to mention dual taxation. But they're experienced in avoiding taxes already so...
They're to colonize other countries thinking the same won't happen there😂😂😂😂
I guess you could call me a baby pepper.
Im on a fixed income, so I have to prep with sales, and pantry items, dollar tree, ect.
With the things that are going on in nature, no matter where you live, you should have a bug out bag. 3 days of food, shelter, fire, ect. Then we have approx a months worth of food for the family, should we need to bug in.
It's nothing to do with politics, and everything to do with what we've done to the planet.
Ex-Pats in Mexico are quite common. I lived in Tijuana for many years while working in the US. I had an Ex-Pats as a neighbor, who refused to come back to the US. My ophthalmologist, in Tijuana, graduated from Massachusetts Eye and Ear (Harvard). He was a Mexican, from Nuevo Leon.
Many times ex-pats live in Jalisco. It is cheaper. The food is BETTER. And despite the propaganda from the US government, I felt safer.
My only hassle was the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT, who delayed me HOURS coming home into the US. They tried to get Americans to purchase Passports, TO ENTER THE US. Then they told the Mexican Officials, "If you require a VISA, you can make MORE MONEY". VISA requires Passport, more money for US. Avoid the line, (more money for US), buy Sentry Card.
I finally moved into US, other state, and got passport for travel to Europe. Will retire in five years. I plan to travel EXTENSIVELY.
Ex-pats?😂😂 They are just caucasic migrants.
As a Canadian, all ofyou at TYT would be great Canadians. Cheers
Great Brits too
@utoobeizkaka2737
There is no sign that the tide of nastiness in Britain is going to recede.
There is no sign that Britain's dependence on imported food is going do anything but increase either...
Food rationing was a thing in British supermarkets recently, and will be again soon.
My uncle was a Trumper who moved to Costa Rica after Biden won and he's also a war vet. He decided to bring his guns in unclaimed and got in trouble and it cost so much he and my aunt ended up in Atlanta living with my cousin. Karma.
Dayyuuumn!
Money that could have saved the society from the downfall they are escaping from in the first place.
Options to emigrate to:
Germany has a fairly large population of American workers and students. Their immigration policies are easier to get through than the Nordic countries, plus the German language is easier to learn. The French have been accepting Americans for years, especially since Trump. It's also slightly warmer than Germany. Spain is also a good option, and is even warmer than most of France. It's pretty popular for Americans who can speak Spanish, being able to fit in easier. The accent is different, but it's one less thing to worry about when moving. Greece and Italy are beautiful places to go, but they have issues if you want to live there. Italy has an amazing train system to the point that their domestic flights are nearly non-existent.
I can certainly understand wanting to live in the northern European countries. The Netherlands have figured out city design and have some of the most liveable cities in the world. Finland has the best education system in the world because they have made private schools illegal. If the rich want their kids well educated, they need to make sure everyone's kids are well educated. The best school for every child in the country is their local public school. Even their head of state will send their kid/s to their local public school.
Nuts to that. I'm going to thailand. I can live pretty well on just renting my house out in the US
Ahh, so that's how vampires get fake documents.
Bit weird that they didn't mention Australia or New Zealand, we're a bit like a mix between the US, Canada, and Britain, but with better weather and food.
Debatable on the food point
Yes but don’t you pay taxes and have healthcare? Rich US citizens are against that.
Well, y'all are a lot farther away, so if we were able to get back into the US to visit family, it would so much harder & more $$. You also seem to be a degree beyond with some of the covid measures...and then you have China problems ... but really, they probably just thought of closer and more familiar regions. Australia and New Zealand are beautiful, beautiful places, and anybody would probably LOVE a visit there. If a bunch of us relocate there, though, I don't think you'd be too happy, amiright?
@@jaykay415 The cost of living is a bit on the high side compared to the US, but we also have much higher wages; I'm honestly shocked whenever I see how little a US citizen earns considering the lack of an adequate safety net to compensate for the lower wages, it's mostly housing prices that drive up the cost though.
China is an issue, but not much of one, they're close but far enough away that we don't have to worry about them as much; we also have the US and the UK as close allies so it's a lot harder for China to throw its' weight around.
Yeah, I definitely wouldn't be happy to be honest, I don't like US politics, and I really hate how often the US meddles in Australian politics, we have our own problems with racism and police reform; we don't need to add the US's stupidity on top of it.
@@misstigerbubbles You'd be surprised, with our location modern australian cuisine is quite diverse and multicultural with influence from all over the world. Wouldn't say the same if we were having this conversation in the 80s, but meh, cultures change over time.
Ignoring the fact we actually have a better cafe culture than the US, when you're a place that can go to the middle of nowhere to some town with a population of a thousand and still have an amazing cup of freshly ground and roasted coffee, I'd say having a better cafe culture is an understandment; there's a reason Starbucks failed in Australia.
I’m the first generation of my father’s family to be born in the United States. I seriously considered exploring the option of applying for dual citizenship. On the other hand, at the rate this country is going, if I stay here, I may have that option if this country gets a national divorce, ala “Waffle House Barbie”continues to expound.
A Dual Citizenship is always a good option, however, it is a two edged sword. A Jewish-American went to Israel to visit. While there, a war broke out. He was conscripted into the Israeli Army. After serving his time, he tried to return to the US. He was DENIED entry, because he was no longer an American. Serving in a foreign military cost him his US citizenship. VOTING in a foreign country also EXCLUDES you from US citizenship. You have to be careful.
Wait until they get to Mexico and realize how much “better” life is there. None of these rich folk can survive anywhere without the creature comforts they’ve all grown accustomed to.
Philadelphia is under a contaminated water alert till further notice. Seems the news stations are blacked out. Anyone in Philly catching any news reports?
Someone else from Philly just posted that they're unable to use their water because it has Paint in it!?
@@robertcowan7610 yeah, they said they were taking precautionary measures 2 days after the fact and didn't report a single story for a few hours. Ty bud
Ohmygawd, my husband and I just retired and moved to Costa Rica, we've discovered since our move, so many right wingers here! We are Lefties. But it's confusing to me why they would move to a democratic, socialist third world country.
They moved because the US dollar goes far in South America, but those people are not about to change their politics. They will despise the locals while taking advantage of the cheap healthcare and other things not available in the US.
Its the working class too.
We found out that UK universities accept US financial aid.
My wife and I are from Texas and currently living in Scotland. We moved here on student loans and plan to remain.
The overall cost of living is more affordable than Texas.
Hell, just the savings on healthcare alone make it more affordable.
We have friends with three little girls who are middle class that just moved to New Zealand because they refuse to bring them up in the current state of the US.
It's not just Preppers who have noped out of the dumpster fire that is America.
We still vote in all local and national elections in hopes that things will improve, but in the meantime we all have to get by somehow
It’s actually pretty easy to get a permanent residence visa in Portugal and Spain, two countries I have researched. Portugal requires you to have the equivalent of their minimum wage in income, which is about $900 per month, depending on the exchange rate. This is good for retired people and digital nomads. Spain, it’s around €28,000 per year. I’m eligible for an Irish passport because both of my grandparents were born there. I’m retired and I’ve got enough income to qualify for the Spain residence visa.
Ditto. Except I'd opt for Scotland perhaps. Portugal and Spain are both great choices. Like you, I've researched and considered them both. I'd really like to get into a Scandinavian country but with about $61,000 Net I don't think I'd make the grade. That's benefits though. If I add a six figure income to that I might make the cut.
Oh God! Take me too!
Yes go to Spain and Portugal
Exactly, or you could live the nomadic life and stay in countries for the duration of a tourist visa, usually 3 to 6 months, then go elsewhere, and go back after a certain period of time.
@@robertcowan7610 interesting. I’m close, but mine are disability pensions, so I can’t work.
Keep in mind as an American you can pretty much pick, personally I'm living in the Caribbean now one year and two days as a single 70 yo never ever lonely.
Congrats to you!
I'm far from wealthy and there's no such thing as a perfect country with all the answers... however...toggling between two countries may meet your needs without feeling suffocated by either. I'm a US citizen yet have European residency with the goal of dual-citizenship. We do this for healthcare purposes and because we cannot afford to retire in The States with our social security at risk.
This took years of research and planning so you don't have to rich in order to make this happen. It's a good thing I was in Europe when I fell ill as I'm now being treated for Stage 3 cancer there instead of the States at a fraction of the cost. I'm only in my 40s and this was unexpected and devastating. Although the US funnels tons of money into research and innovation none of the citizens can gain access to it. So we have to go elsewhere and that's why medical tourism is so huge. Instead of the comments on here mocking us for taking this route...perhaps ask us how we did it. 🤷♀️
Many areas in Canada are not as cold as many Americans think it is. Where I live we do get winter snow, usually followed by rain so I rarely need to shovel. On the west coast, it’s even warmer. Also, in Canada you can have “duel citizenship” so you can keep your American citizenship and become a “friendly“ Canadian. 🇨🇦
You guys are so nice I visited Canada a couple of years ago and definitely good vibes
Yeah but there is too many Canadians in Canada.
We just want health care, clean water and a safe place to live.
When it comes to trust, I got two words I remember my dad saying often.
Wounded Knee
Do they think baggage handlers and pilots will still work if all hell breaks loose? Do they think their planes will get fueled?
They can get a lot with a little money.
I'm going to have look up the Polish LARPERS -- huh. As a Canadian, I appreciate Cenk & Ana's compliments. It is pleasant to live up here with universal health care, etc. Every time I discuss America with fellow Canadians they are SHOCKED that you guys don't have it. Universal health care and a strong social safety net are the bedrock of basic civilization, as far as we're concerned. We are also safe to drive, walk, bike or whatever anywhere in our country. There are a lot of places I'd still like to visit in the states, but have not done so in the last 20 years due to your gun violence. Nearly ever single day I am saddened to hear that more of your children are killed in your schools. We may have as many guns per capita here because we have very strong hunting traditions, but I have never seen anyone (other than the police) who carry a gun (and I lived in Toronto for 50 years) -- that kind of violence does not factor into our existence, and I feel happy and safe, like the Finnish, etc., Love your work, hope for better for you all :)
Went to Alberta, was shocked by the lack of homeless people, the clean streets, and lack of political stickers, flags, and the sort of lack of any sort of anxiousness among the general population.
Alberta is little Texas.
A shithole. Tons of crime drugs.
Saskatchewan is way better. So far.
Try Vancouver though. All the urban problems of the worst of the US.
@@fangslaughter1198
@@countchoculitis1528
I live here. I consider Alberta to be a clown show.
They basically wish to be American. You’re welcome to them.
@@jaykay415 👍🙏
I lived in Buenos Aires Argentina for 10 years and am no where near begin rich but rich people have had multi homes all over the world. Rich people have always had the ability to protect themselves.
This isn't just for the rich. I'm a prepper. Have been for a decade. Feeling kinda vindicated. The family isn't laughing at me anymore. I have a stay-in-place plan and a get-the-F-out plan. I just purchased land in Africa. Got a Building a home in The Gambia.. And I insisted that my entire family get a passport. Plan now. Don't wait until crap hits the fan.
Have u ever looked in Rwanda? Also can u give me more details about Gambia
What crap hits the fan?? And if you can afford a second home on another continent you're rich.
Theres nothing wrong w being prepared. Stocking up on food etc etc but you extremists have buried yourselves in fear to the point of insanity
@@cdreid9999 Where will people head towards when they find themselves in the worst case scenerio shows up, that you claimed is stemmed on fear? They will be heading to the people with the skills and stockpiles because they didn't bother thinking about the perfect world they live in could come crashing down. Then when they find themselves in the situation they will blame others and become animals to survive whether they are rich or not.
I’m so lucky ! I was born with TWO passports. Yay for me.
In Tasmania, some Americans have built huge mansions in isolated places as a bolt hole. Some even have an airstrip.
Some Australians have similarly built mansions in Florida, Alaska and Hawaii as bolt holes.
Me, I'm hoping for a mid-air collision when that day arrives. haha
@@ericpmoss 😂
We are heading toward fascism, not communism.
Can I get a list of these people that plan to flee so I know where there will be free luxury property available?
I'm one of those middle-class types lucky enough to have personal circumstances that avail me of an EU passport (which can gain me entry into Scandinavia, per AK's comment) alongside my US one. Unmentioned in the piece is that several EU countries have ancestry-based citizenship (such as Italy & Poland) provided one has the proper documentation and their personal situation comports with the respective laws (which can get quite convoluted). In my case & those of the ancestry-based types, the $ outlay is a fraction of Henley's price. I consider it money well spent.
If I have spaniard ancestry do you think i can get a citizenship for Spain? Would it cost a lot of money?
I'm totally with you. Research is your friend.
I know several Americans who only visited Europe and many have stayed. They work here, started families and some of their American families followed them to Europe. Many became good friends. Very few wanna go back.
My wife and I have eyed the south of France since 2005. We are retired now and need to get more serious about this plan.
I'm with you bud
I’ve been to France when I was young and it’s beautiful.
if you're not a citizen (passport) of EU, you can't.
some exceptions: you're under 40 yrs old, have documented means to support yourself, have documented ability to buy healthcare, etc.
@@op3129 Thanks for the intel.
Good choice. I'm still studying myself..... Having provable savings and income/a needed marketable skill, buy property, etc are ways to make the grade for admittance in some very fine places.....
After serving more than 29 months in a combat M.O.S. in Iraq I can't stand where this country is. The division is disgusting, shameful, and taking us down a path we, and every other great society in history has walked down before. I wanted to leave. Got a degree. Saved money. And, had a plan. Until three Jack booted thugs violated the very Rights I, and so many others swore to defend.
Ditto. Seriously brother...Ditto. I did the same. And i completely agree with you. I'm banking everything I can so I can watch this crazy show from a distance.
Spring 2024, my kids and I are moving to Canada to be with my husband, who’s a Canadian. Our kids are dual citizens now. I can’t wait to get them out of this country. We feel so much safer there than in the US.
I'm 61 and the US is not going to make the changes I'd like to see in my lifetime. If I had the chance to move to another country when I was much younger I would have gone for it. My niece lived in England for a year when her husband was in the service, and she still misses it. I doubt at her age that she ever gave their healthcare system a thought, but I'll be someday she might.
Saw a cspan book program, and the author helped the wealthy develop safety protocols, bunkers, etc. He told his clients if they treated their fellow man better, they would not need all that security shit.
Wise words
I'm an American in exile. I keep my citizenship because I like the ideals of the country. But quite honestly, my parents would be dead today if they had to deal with healthcare there.
Where are you now?
So the ideals you like doesn't include health care for all.
In Georgia, you have property worth millions of dollars, but, across the street are unhoused people. 😢😢
Yeah this devolved into total cringe. The fact that most people here dont realise just how much we detroy other countries and impoverish them is beyond my understanding. The fact is, people out there expect all this money to be used for our people and when they see people living in poverty, what else can they do but laugh at the system. (not saying they should get to laugh at poor people, anywhere). But the tone deafness over this issues is precisely why countries mock us in the first place
I live just up the coast from Puerto Vallarta, in Mazatlan, and there are large ex-pat communities in both places. Many are, like me, "economic exiles" who can't afford to live in the U.S. I have a furnished 2-bdr. apt. just a few blocks from the beach and my rent is only $500 month. The requirements for a visa would be easy to meet for someone with a decent pension but as long as I go back home for a visit once every 4-6 months I can stay almost indefinitely.
Yes we are nice up here in Canada. Lol Being nice actually makes one happy. That's why we have low murder rates. I love this channel by the way.☺️☺️☺️💜💜💜
People reaps what they sow, and the US gets what it deserves.
@@robertkennedy8503 you mean the rats jumping of the boat?
Imagine having money for a plan B or C…
Never liked Doomsday Preppers, their main mindset isn't to help make things better, but to wait for things to fall apart.
That is an assumption.
People can work for the best and prepare for the worst, though I would, say that’s probably more true with right wing cultist.
@@uncomfortabletruth5915 Oh you can. But have you seen what some doomday preppers do or have prepped? I would say prepping is their dominant interest. The amount of money and time they sink in for what amounts to the collapse of civilization would be indicate it's their priority. And those who don't likely think they are going to be Raptured or something.
@@biocapsule7311 one person alone can't change the projectory which is why these doom preppers exist. in this world, it's a better use of energy to take care of yourself first above all else.
US is a great country to live in if you are healthy and earning income. As soon as you get sick or lose your income you are pretty much screwed.
You know what that equates to--have a daycare payment, a mortgage payment, and a car accident all in the same month and this will no longer be a great country. Your ice is thinner than you realize. Hell, a natural disaster wiping out your work place this year is not outside the realm of possibility with climate change and how ill prepared we are in our infrastructure. Our whole middle class is skating on luck. Just saying.
The story in the dystopian film _Elysium_ appears to be materializing before our eyes.
I had and idea of a book years ago. But it wasn't sci-fi, it was about a woman who have to live in an small home. The government was split and the average people had to be ruled by a governor who was either a celebrity and lived in a high hill while the main character and the others had to live in a town.
It was like the Hunger Games, but no kids killing kids, more like a romance while also showing how the main character had survived after losing her parents after graduating college for becoming a nurse.
@@jkseraphim4 i get it
I heard "if you don't like it here you can move" 3 years here in China and its pretty nice here
But.... are you allowed to say otherwise?
@@mycosys allowed by who? If you are hinting at censorship from the Chinese government, the only thing you are not allowed to do is spread intentionally misleading or false information. In my opinion, this is the opportunity cost of protected free speech (being able to lie without consequences)
I think you missed maybe the biggest point: tax strategy. For the ultra wealthy, if the capital gains rate is increased or a wealth tax on assets is imposed, some of them may find it's worthwhile moving out of the US and revoking their citizenship to escape US taxes. It's already happening amongst certain high net worth Silicon valley investors and crypto bros.
Tax law is so lax in America that you don’t have to hide your money like that really. Not like rich people from Europe do.
@@Skubasteph right, but the point is that tax la could be changed. If there were an asset tax, or a transfer tax, or even if loopholes were closed in the existing tax code, certain high net worth individuals might suddenly find they owe billions in taxes.
How is it that we control the world banks, yet they cant enforce their tax laws abroad? This is why its important to start now! While we still are the world currency. If BRICS takes over, its game over. The rich will take everything they have and legitimize BRICS.
Yes they missed that and a while lot more 😂😂😂😂
I am an American who is permanently living in western Canada. As far as everyone being super cool and nice, there are just a couple of exceptions. In Alberta, we get a number of right-wing/borderline fascists who display their views and behavior openly, since it seems to be acceptable as the US is acting this way. Also many of the major cities are AWFUL. I never feel unsafe in a Canadian city, but people there are generally not all sweetness. Small towns? HUGE difference--people are amazing. You can chat with people at the store or while walking your dog, and people are friendly and welcoming. I have lived here almost 18 years now, and I consider myself very lucky to be living in Canada during times like these. Plus, I married a Canadian hockey player...as a girl from Pittsburgh, what can be better than that??
Alberta is Canada's Texas. Big hat, mouthy, empty headed. What cities are awful ?
That's why I have 3 passports, and have the right for a 4th..
In a place that's an ever growing slow boiling cauldron, my plan is NOT to save America, but to get the hell out.
Those with well used passports already know the truth.. A good, happy, healthy, low stress life can be had in many other places on earth.
Rich americans have been going to Puerto Vallarta since early 1900'. Hollywood ppl took over one part they named Gringo Gulch.
Have friends who live there next to Elizabeth Taylors villa with the bridge across road to Burtons place. Beautiful city, great food and a lovely bay.
My ex is Jamaican (1st gen American), our kids half Jamaican, and she's working on getting dual citizenship for herself, our kids, and her other 1st gen American family members, because THIS is a shitty country for black ppl and even tho there's a ton of negative info, news, propaganda about Jamaica and other black countries, not all of them are bad, and Jamaica is a GREAT country for black ppl to flee to when they're tired of America's BS!! I can't get dual citizenship with Jamaica for myself, but I and other non-jamaican heritage blacks can still flee there! I'll probably retire there in 15yrs, if not sooner.
....Oh 1 more thing, if you can get Jamaican citizenship, then congrats because a Jamaican passport is BETTER than an American passport! If you don't believe me, then ask the rich ppl that get it for long term access to other beautiful countries, instead of short term vacationer access.
But don't worry if your not Jamaican and not rich, like me. If you have a trade skill, like musician, like myself, you can get a Jamaican worker passport which is almost as good. It's not easy, but I'm gonna put in the effort to get it even tho I'm not Jamaican.
Jamaica, yes, Haiti not so much.
@@eric2500 I literally said, "not all of them are bad.", which means some of them are bad countries. You just had to leave that comment about Haiti. You couldn't resist reminding people about one of the bad ones. Which either tells me your reading comprehension isn't good, because I never said all black countries are good, or you're a part of the problem in this country and in other countries that's always gotta draw attention to the bad black countries instead of showcasing and promoting the good black countries. You're one of the people that has to keep the bad countries fresh in other people's minds. You won't let them forget about it. Why do you do that? Because no one forgets how bad Haiti is. It was absolutely Not necessary for you to remind anyone of that. But most people forget there are good black countries, because of people like you.
“Expats” also known as migrants
I am in uni and I have friends that are from America and say that they rather their family move here to Britain for healthcare reasons
As long as you're not in a hurry to get an operation why not? You should check out the waiting times for the most common operations, people in some cases have had time to die before their turn comes round.
That's hilarious! I have 3 citizenships. British, Irish and Canadian. I was born with British and Irish citizenship but worked for my Canadian citizenship. Sounds crazy to my middle class ears that multiple citizenships has become something rich people do.
Both my parents were immigrants. I can get citizenship from their country of birth. I won't have to since I don't live in 🦇💩crazy America.
Not all countries have automatic citizenship through parents. Of course what about black Americans descended from slaves? Their families have been in the US since at least the before the 1860s.
My ancestry is 100% British/Irish but all my grandparents were born in the country I was born in meaning I dont qualify for UK or Irish citizenship.
...Ana's hair is distractedly, swooplingly amazing. Someone give her hairdresser a raise. Well done!
Also, other countries do not put money and profit before people.
Well Canada is a no go if you’re over 40 so the only option where you can still fly back to the US easily and get a resident visa or go for a citizenship is Mexico or Latin America.
Yeah, my wife and I are currently trying to move our family to Germany. The future here looks bleak for our kids and I can do better for them so I will.
yea because Germany is doing so hot right now LMAO
@@illegalthoughts5875 at least I won't be going broke trying to pay for my diabetic son's insulin there. I won't have to worry about my kids being at a school shooting, there have been three in his district so far this year. My kids will be able to go to college without making it so that I have no retirement, in fact I'll even have a retirement myself. I'm not convinced social security is going to exist here in 30 years. Yeah Deutschland is doing things much better
@@markymarktheroro bye broke boi
I lived in Canada for 2Y, and was surprised at how much poorer people were in my (mid-upper) tax bracket, teaching at a top university. Canada does a good job of hiding it but canadians can buy only about 1/2 of what americans can buy with their incomes - when they go shopping prices are much higher and to add insult there is the 15% GST+PST sales taxes ... The only things that are not expensive are a few local goods e.g. houses, not cheap but not as outrageous as most imported goods. In Canada you see a lot of interest in vintage furniture, money that looks brand-new with 30-yr old serial numbers (because money circulates so slowly), and people waiting for their parents to die so they can get a house, etc., it's hard to make a life for yourself 0-70 yrs old in Canada without an inheritance ... Remember that Canada is the birthplace of the luxury honda civic model (not for sale in the usa)! I finally left Canada complaining that if I stayed it would turn me into a republican!
Canada is far more Socialist then the USA That is why their "Free" Health care System is quickly crashing and Burning And they have much less freedoms then us ....More A Democrat dream then Republican
It's all Indigenous Lands
10% of people are miserable no matter where they are. I suspect you're one of them.
[You i]gnore their health, welfare, and education systems. Being wealthy.
You also ignore the fact that most USA young people - and many middleaged people - have no hope of entering the housing market, and rely on family wealth for a chance at more wealth. The statistics on that are clear, upwards mobility has slowed dreadfully over the past 40 years. I guess you haven't noticed, not being in a lower tax bracket.
@@old_grey_cat But Joe will fix it He promised
I would, I did.... I've never regretted it. I had just barely entered my teens and I fell in love with the best country in the world and, it wasn't America. And, its been great. Every single day I thank heaven I had the opportunity to grow up in a sane and decent society, one with a delightful, broad outlook and sure, we have our challenges as a nation, we have our demons to confront, but we do and all the while I see a maturity and a kindness and beauty that is youthful yet wise. I love this land, its amazing beauty, its wildlife, its sunrises and sunsets, its coastal cities and the desert outback and, most of all, I love the people. I'm so truly lucky, I found home. 🇦🇺
Many, many conservatives and digital nomads have left the US already. There's a channel called nomad capitalist that helps people acquire 2nd passports etc.
Huge expat communities in Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, Taiwan and Vietnam.
If the shit hits the fan….you better know how to do things….if you want to survive….
I begrudge Americans who got rich here who want to leave so they won't have to pay taxes on their wealth.
Sorry the insanity that is plaguing the US has tainted Canada.
i have some retired coworkers who moved out of the country. a few to Lima, Belize, Barbatos, Taiwan, DR and a few other places. These people are middle class working people , not wealthy at all.
ok so irrelevant.
where is barbatos lol
I'll bet they all make more than $13,000/annually? Just guessing.
@@steppenwolf3252 so sorry comrade!!! are you okay?
@@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia why?
Many of these yt rich people in the USA are doing what the Nazis did by moving to latin countries, what a coincidence that is 😏.
Hmm.
It is understandable, if Donald Trump got elected I would want to leave too.
By the way last year was record on americans moving to Mexico but for economic reasons
I hope that rich right wingers are welcomed in Latin America like right wingers welcome Latin Americans in the US.
You've obviously never been to So América. Ẁe'll welcome them with open arms b/c they'll bring money and jobs with them instead of expecting So American govmts to take care of them.
South Florida is full of right wingers from Latin America who got warm welcomes. Some of them are retired from being Generals, others it is more like genocide.
The peasants are revolting!
Just like Germans heading to Argentina in the mid 1940's
Well, that's not the same thing. They fled after they lost the war. They did not want to face charges in the Hague.