The BIGGEST Milestone in Mario Speedrunning History

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  • Опубликовано: 23 дек 2024

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  • @Kosmicd12
    @Kosmicd12  Год назад +481

    For a further break down of 4-2 / 8-4, Bismuth has covered this previously: ruclips.net/video/U7RzoIEoSMY/видео.htmlm38s
    You can watch Niftski's run here: ruclips.net/video/Khu9BB2g4Ks/видео.htmlsi=owZZvPvVEpeSMFl3

  • @SummoningSalt
    @SummoningSalt Год назад +3347

    15:55 I made it in a Kosmic video 🥲
    I hope this video blows up. It was my favorite of yours so far. I love the statistical breakdowns in the second half, I learned a ton from it.

    • @vlct666
      @vlct666 Год назад +342

      Hopefully, this will push your small channel ❤️

    • @BubbleBFDI
      @BubbleBFDI Год назад +218

      wow kosmic is so generous helping out smaller channels ❤

    • @pferdesalami69
      @pferdesalami69 Год назад +40

      no way congrats man
      not everyone can manage to get into a speedrunning history video as specially not of a creator with this popularity

    • @josephgetz2941
      @josephgetz2941 Год назад +91

      The salt has been summoned

    • @ozzcoremidmx8287
      @ozzcoremidmx8287 Год назад +21

      SummonedSalt 👀

  • @notclickbait3172
    @notclickbait3172 Год назад +2035

    His 180 heartrate at the end of 8-4 says it all

    • @vehementvirtuoso7889
      @vehementvirtuoso7889 Год назад +48

      I came to say this, lord in heaven 😭

    • @Dac_vak
      @Dac_vak Год назад +162

      Big deal, my heartrate goes up to 180 any time I have to talk to another human on the phone.
      (But fr his run is insane)

    • @lulmanlulman
      @lulmanlulman Год назад +15

      Doesn't his heart rate always go 180 when he is near wr

    • @austinrollins6819
      @austinrollins6819 Год назад +60

      ​@@lulmanlulman does that make it any more normal?

    • @Heymrk
      @Heymrk Год назад +40

      🍕 🥤

  • @codetaku
    @codetaku Год назад +703

    You mentioned that 8-4 has only been done perfectly twice ever
    But niftski is one of the two that did it
    If anyone can do a truly perfect speedrun, through the end of 8-4, even if it takes another 3 years, it's him

    • @nomatyx5789
      @nomatyx5789 Год назад +62

      Reminds me of something from Hades. A content creator named Haelian made a video about how max difficulty Hades is impossible, and only two people have done it, with the help of mods to fudge RNG. Then, within a week, one of those two beat it legitimately.

    • @beeftips1628
      @beeftips1628 Год назад +16

      @@nomatyx5789I could be remembering this wrong but it reminds me of a video about how someone made a mod of hollow knights final boss to be impossible only for someone to beat it In like a week. There is probably many more similar stories and it only just reminds me how we can do anything we put our minds to.

    • @uberlord983
      @uberlord983 Год назад +35

      In other words, Niftski HAS done a perfect SMB1 run, its just technically a multi-segment run, so the pieces need to be done again all in 1 sitting.

    • @fuy1648
      @fuy1648 Год назад +29

      @@uberlord983 In other words, he would only need 1 splice for a perfect run

    • @fat4l1ty
      @fat4l1ty Год назад +16

      @@fuy1648 and pizza and coke

  • @iyziejane
    @iyziejane Год назад +1158

    For someone who played this game during the 1980s, the most magical thing to me is that wall jumps are real. I followed the WR story for years, I know it's all much more impressive than a wall jump, but still the wall jumps are magical - an emergent property of the way the game was coded. It's like a fantasy we would have had back then, but it was secretly real the whole time. I would love for Kosmic or someone to do a video on the history of SMB wall jumps - what is earliest point in time when they were discovered and confirmed?

    • @acorngnome
      @acorngnome Год назад +82

      Once I accidentally did a wall-jump while my baby brother was trying to take the controller.

    • @Sunflower_SM64
      @Sunflower_SM64 Год назад +22

      dang, og alert. My mom also played it in the 80s.

    • @legoboy7107
      @legoboy7107 Год назад +30

      @@acorngnome Once a couple years ago or so I accidently did a wall jump in Lost Levels 1-2 on NSO that saved me, I believe I was going for the Warp Zone but missed the jump onto the next top platform, and fell right into the pit right before the normal exit pipe assuming I was dead but hit the right wall, and accidentally managed to wall-jump off it and land in front of the pipe. Was the first time I ever pulled one off and it was by complete accident. Missed the Warp Zone but was still alive! Never done something like that since, only wall-jumps I've pulled off since were when I was continuously trying to do one in SMB1 1-1's bonus room lol.

    • @morchela
      @morchela Год назад +14

      I always do walljumps when they are useless

    • @Qoobon_
      @Qoobon_ Год назад +2

      My mom was born in the 80' 🤫

  • @BassistDood
    @BassistDood Год назад +190

    I can't imagine my heart rate being 180bpm and trying to hit ANYTHING frame perfect.
    I used to use a heart rate monitor playing PUBG on stream, and when it'd get to 165+ in the final circle, it was noticeably more difficult to aim well. Managing stress in a speedrun like this is an entire extra skill.

    • @Ray25689
      @Ray25689 Год назад +3

      When I'm coming back from a run, I walk for a few seconds and then try to run the last bit as fast as possible. Then I go up the stairs, in my room and immediately measure my heartrate, and it's never above 108. Maybe it's inaccurate, but I cannot imagine how insane a 165 heart rate has to feel, let alone 180. I definitely wouldnt be able to play there

    • @json_bourne3812
      @json_bourne3812 Год назад +18

      @@Ray25689 You should definitely measure you rate IMMEDIATELY after sprinting; it'd be much much higher. Your heartrate drops surprisingly fast when you stop exerting yourself, especially if you're fit.

    • @hquwhjher
      @hquwhjher Год назад +2

      All I can imagine when going over that heart rate is going full autopilot mode or just wanting to collapse on the floor, not gonna lie.

    • @biggiemac42
      @biggiemac42 Год назад +3

      Immediately after sprinting a 200IM in swim practice I once measured my heart rate to be over 200 but it felt almost surreal and all I could do at that point is rest

    • @nonsaline
      @nonsaline Год назад +6

      180bpm is actually a huge advantage here because every 3 heartbeats is one frame so you can use your heart to time inputs

  • @PeskyTheWabbit
    @PeskyTheWabbit Год назад +179

    The heart-rate monitor is such a great element of these streams. It really helps you relate to the nerves these runners are experiencing

    • @vinching926
      @vinching926 Год назад +12

      It's also a solid prove for they're doing genuine runs in real time, also visualizing that adrenaline make the thrill of record runs more compelling

    • @Giraffleger
      @Giraffleger Год назад

      And the caffeine

    • @algorithmae
      @algorithmae Год назад +1

      As someone with a heart condition, it actually makes me uncomfortable and anxious and kinda ruins it for me. I'd rather not see it tbh

  • @aGameScout
    @aGameScout Год назад +35

    Awesome video. Really appreciate the extra mile you went with all the stats and numbers, it helped contextualize me to the difficulty of the runs and how much of an impressive outlier niftski is.

    • @Kosmicd12
      @Kosmicd12  Год назад +5

      Yo! That's awesome to hear coming from you!

  • @luminousherbs
    @luminousherbs Год назад +300

    At the end of 8-4, his heart rate was roughly one beat per framerule!

    • @lo0ksik
      @lo0ksik Год назад +68

      frame perfect heart beat

    • @rolandverde8771
      @rolandverde8771 Год назад +8

      But first can you explain what a framerule is?

    • @cordomum
      @cordomum Год назад

      i haven't delved into SMB speedruns for a long time, but essentially, any level in super mario is set to end on specific frames, which are multiples of some number. Say the framerule was 10-this means the level can end on frame 10, 20, 30, 40, etc. If you were to beat the level on frame 18, and TAS can beat the level on frame 12, you both still finish on frame 20 (since that is the next multiple of 10).@@rolandverde8771

    • @bxyhxyh
      @bxyhxyh Год назад +32

      @@rolandverde8771 imagine a bus...

    • @rolandverde8771
      @rolandverde8771 Год назад +2

      @@bxyhxyh 😁

  • @TompaA
    @TompaA Год назад +106

    Amazing video! I especially liked your talk about frame perfect inputs. People usually hype them up quite often. Another point to make there is that a frame perfect input in SMB is 1/60 while in OoT it is 1/20, something also often overlooked...
    Good stuff!

    • @Kosmicd12
      @Kosmicd12  Год назад +39

      Yeah, i really could've gone on and on with more examples. I definitely should've mentioned framerate though!

  • @idontwantahandlethough
    @idontwantahandlethough Год назад +16

    @8:40 "and Niftski wept, because there were no more frame rules to conquer"

  • @SapphyBlueMoon
    @SapphyBlueMoon Год назад +197

    "It's easy to optimize. You just run to the right and play optimally." If only that were this easy. 😂

    • @burns4246
      @burns4246 Год назад +10

      oh, thats all i got to do to set the WR, just run right and play optimally. piece of cake

    • @ProjectLunis
      @ProjectLunis Год назад +11

      @@burns4246 just press the buttons right place, right time. I wonder why speed runners hype it up so much/j

    • @SapphyBlueMoon
      @SapphyBlueMoon Год назад +2

      @@burns4246 basically, that's really all it takes. It's just a matter of how well you run to the right. :D

  • @black_m1n825
    @black_m1n825 Год назад +329

    The moment a Perfect SMB1 Speedrun happens, that person will be crowned The King of Speedrunning.

    • @mariotheundying
      @mariotheundying Год назад +16

      What if someone gets the world record on all main categories in sm64 and keeps the world records for like 10 months? That would be very impressive, that could also be one of the kings of speedrunning

    • @BradsGonnaPlay
      @BradsGonnaPlay Год назад

      @@mariotheundyingeyes on Suigi

    • @threehead99
      @threehead99 Год назад +59

      And then Billy Mitchell sues because he is the King of Kong, and you can't use Mario without his permission. Also, you'd be a competing Kingdom and he can't have that.

    •  Год назад +6

      TASBot is already our monarch.

    • @EmpereurHector
      @EmpereurHector Год назад +8

      It's very true. SMB Any% is the most important category. People outside the speedrunning community know about it. I mean, it's so iconic. And if it is perfected, there's only the possibility of matching the record. So if anyone gets it, they get that record forever! Forever ... barring new discoveries in the game that save frame rules or allow a faster 8-4. I'm not sure which one is more likely.

  • @MQTate
    @MQTate Год назад +167

    I am a simple man, I see a new Kosmic vid and I clap my hands like a circus seal

  • @justabearbrowsingyoutube4968
    @justabearbrowsingyoutube4968 Год назад +27

    Man went ultra instinct with SMB! 😮
    I gotta say, as someone who played this when it was first released in the 80s, watching and follow people all the way to this era find new ways to accomplish speedruns has been magical for me. Never thought all these years later, some would find new methods and techniques! This is amazing! I love how you showed the stats of everything! ⭐️

  • @Viral-Mage
    @Viral-Mage Год назад +62

    Awesome video! Just a small heads up: the graph displayed around 18:39 is incorrect. 4:54.6 is labelled 59 but is only as tall as 49, and 4.54.3 is labelled 68 but is only as tall as 58. The error does make the appearance of 84 (which is the correct height) more dramatic, though.

  • @ZykoMike
    @ZykoMike Год назад +28

    Ok… so let’s say you’re at a bus stop…

  • @TheMightyGiantDad
    @TheMightyGiantDad Год назад +18

    I love how implementing the hardest trick in the entire run caused Niftskis grind to be like... 20 attempts longer. Must be nice.

  • @Guimaster127
    @Guimaster127 Год назад +22

    This is it. There's literally just one last hurdle between us and the perfect run (up to current TAS knowledge). It's insane to think it might actually happen one day.

  • @OTheFool
    @OTheFool Год назад +3

    Can I just say - knowing your abilities so well that you can accurately predict something like how frequently you can nail an entire run near- if not perfectly, is an amazing thing to have, speedrunning or not. It's incredibly satisfying to see a master at work, one who knows their own skill so well even moreso.

  • @stephnicole3078
    @stephnicole3078 Год назад +6

    This was such an amazing video Kosmic! If you ever get a chance, I’d love to see a video going more in depth on what “frame perfect” can mean in different games like you discussed here. I found that part fascinating and I don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone really discuss it.

  • @zero_mendez9374
    @zero_mendez9374 Год назад +45

    Amazing video Kosmic, as usual. Thank you very much for clarifying that Niftski is the best because he puts the most work on, instead of having some magic talent.

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Год назад +5

      he is very talented as well.
      this is a combination of hard work and talent.
      and talent doesn't mean anything magical, just very high potential

  • @CheesecakeMilitia
    @CheesecakeMilitia Год назад +7

    That frame perfect input counter was amazing! Would love to see an even deeper breakdown of each "frame perfect" moment and how many inputs are A presses, A releases, left, right, etc.

  • @nothomebutnotreally3782
    @nothomebutnotreally3782 Год назад +9

    4:26 I thought the world record for Dragster was 5.53 seconds set by the legendary Todd Todgers

  • @bluelemon243
    @bluelemon243 Год назад +6

    18:21 the graph looked so weird for me and ididnt knew why until i realised that the 59 colomn is one row too short lol

  • @OG_ArthurSlugworth
    @OG_ArthurSlugworth Год назад +21

    Wow. Too bad Billy Mitchel just showed me an old VHS tape he had saved incase anyone set a new record. He beat it 10 seconds faster.

    • @mengo329
      @mengo329 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I'm shocked that he learned how to unlock 15 frame framerules

  • @LendriMujina
    @LendriMujina Год назад +31

    Niftski's number of attempts going down only seems natural to me. It's not like all of his previous runs' experience just disappears.
    Also, the number of FPIs needed to perfect up to 8-4 *being* 84 is just too perfect.

  • @KernelLeak
    @KernelLeak Год назад +39

    Ah, a Kosmic Jobst video - can't help but watch it immediately... :D

  • @SomeGuy712x
    @SomeGuy712x Год назад +2

    (16:21) I like your use of the Strange Memories of Death track from Mr. Gimmick, and many of the beats seemed to be timed perfectly with some of the inputs, along with the end of the song's loop occurring just as the axe in 8-4 was touched.

  • @ozzcoremidmx8287
    @ozzcoremidmx8287 Год назад +135

    To think we are only 1/3 of a second from perfection is just... Mindblowing

    • @iambicpentakill
      @iambicpentakill Год назад +14

      I mean, I personally am about one hour and a third of a second from SMB1 perfection.

    • @ProjectRedfoot
      @ProjectRedfoot Год назад

      ​@@iambicpentakill DO IT

  • @PronatorTendon
    @PronatorTendon Год назад +11

    Man I really cannot explain how hyped you get me for this game that came out when I was in elementary school. Thank you for your work

  • @mr_bobby_benny1760
    @mr_bobby_benny1760 Год назад +124

    Amazing video Kosmic!!! Really hope this video does well

  • @LARAUJO_0
    @LARAUJO_0 8 месяцев назад +2

    A perfect 8-4 taking exactly 84 frame-perfect inputs in the whole run is a hilarious coincidence

  • @JoshWiniberg
    @JoshWiniberg Год назад +19

    With a heartrate like that it's like Niftski is trying to speedrun life.

  • @dogindagrass
    @dogindagrass Год назад +16

    this is, what? the fifth "BIGGEST milestone in Mario speed running history" video I've seen just from the record being beat, these are all incredible. Mario speedrunners are incredibly dedicated and I"m here for it!

    • @lol-gb5vt
      @lol-gb5vt Год назад +7

      This is truly the biggest milestone that will ever happen, and only one other milestone could ever be bigger, but that's a bigger jump than any milestone up until that point.

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Год назад +3

      @@lol-gb5vt not necessarily, Mario speedrunning is much more than just SMB1 any%

    • @lol-gb5vt
      @lol-gb5vt Год назад +1

      @@lookas170 you're right I won't edit my comment so people can see what I said. With that being said I imagine something like low 4:53 in all stars is debatably bigger, but we likely won't see that much dedication to the game (ex 18:3x warpless) for a while after tas tie, considering many see any% as the most important.

    • @Kylora2112
      @Kylora2112 Год назад +1

      @@lookas170 But it's an iconic game run that still looks like the game everyone knows and it's quick enough that you can watch the WR run without having to dedicate time to it.

    • @zeross39
      @zeross39 Год назад

      can't wait to see karls doing it too :)

  • @ahedgehog1879
    @ahedgehog1879 Год назад +17

    Kosmic, thank you for being a dedicated legend for so long.

  • @Okayryu
    @Okayryu 8 месяцев назад +1

    14:12
    there are some long grinds, there are some short grinds.
    then there's kosmic getting a WR on his first attempt getting past the pipe clip

  • @HappyLeeHL
    @HappyLeeHL Год назад +22

    Great video. Having a consistency of 80% to 85% on flagpole glitch is crazy. My consistency of a single pipe jump like in 1-2 is less than 50%.

  • @SilentDragonite149
    @SilentDragonite149 Год назад +5

    Watching these videos makes me realize how little I actually know about these games I used to play.
    The Perfect Speed Run is just frames away! All we need to do is reach out and take it.

    • @Margen67
      @Margen67 Год назад

      Dragonite needs HUGS

  • @FuzzyJeffTheory
    @FuzzyJeffTheory Год назад +22

    I couldn’t really understand this video. I wish someone would explain the frame cycles, perhaps with some kind of vehicular analogy…

    • @ryanmattie974
      @ryanmattie974 3 месяца назад +1

      Just imagine you're running an 8 cylinder engine and each pistons power stroke is a frame in the game. All pistons have power strokes but you can only finish a level on your 8th cylinders power stroke, so strokes 1-7 have to complete there strokes up 8, and then cylinder 8s power stroke ends the level! Hope this helped!

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee Год назад +1

    "We did it, we perfected SMB!"
    "What do we do now?"
    "What do you mean? Now we can play the game."

  • @dillondelaney4347
    @dillondelaney4347 Год назад +10

    No pizza and coke???? No good

  • @Bambani-tr7jw
    @Bambani-tr7jw Год назад +16

    Beautifully crafted video!

  • @jasonspringfield4829
    @jasonspringfield4829 Год назад

    You know, i find kosmic's hopeful outlook refreshing. There's a lot of people out there who say a game is dead in speedrunning the moment certain barriers are broken. To see soneone hopeful and happy for the end is nice. Keep on running kosmic, the finish line's there and I'm waiting for your smile

  • @MyBikeIsAwesome
    @MyBikeIsAwesome Год назад +5

    Great video! I'm very interested in learning more about frame perfect tricks. Like, how humanly possible is it to really press or release a button with only a 16 millisecond window? Could you do a video on how speed runners pull this off, and how they become somewhat consistent at it? What are the chances of getting a frame perfect input? Mind boggled.

    • @cynicanal111
      @cynicanal111 Год назад +1

      16 miliseconds is a lot more than you think. To put it into perspective, a guitarist, drummer, or pianist playing a fast piece is hitting windows about that tight on every single note they play. It's harder in a videogame context because you're not going at a steady pulse, but the raw precision is easily within human capability.

    • @JohnnyLeven
      @JohnnyLeven Год назад +1

      Stepmania has a timing window of 22.5ms for marvelous judgement. The best players can get all marvelous timing on songs with 1000+ notes. But 16ms is still much harder than 22.5ms and each one is different and requires unique cues unlike rhythm games.

    • @Lightningflamingice
      @Lightningflamingice Год назад

      @@JohnnyLeven There's also the added difficulty of not having a musical cue like in rhythm games in SMB. Your brain can anticipate when to press future notes due to their predictability and your ability to recall how the song goes, which saves you a lot more time then having to react to a purely visual cue (and a very minor one at that, there is no major difference in how the game looks before and after a frame-perfect input).

    • @lookas170
      @lookas170 Год назад

      it's possible for players who have really good timing and reaction skills
      a talent they have and develop through practice to gain more consistency

  • @darrenlo9802
    @darrenlo9802 Месяц назад

    18:12
    Kosmic: this isn’t strictly accurate
    Also Kosmic: *make a bar with the wrong length*

  • @PatrickDavis28
    @PatrickDavis28 Год назад +2

    One more insane thing that I just realized:
    # of frame perfects in a 4:54.265: 84
    # of frame perfects in a back 5 back lightning 4-2 (which Niftski has actually done): ~90
    Obviously there's other factors to consider, but the fact that Niftski has executed something which has on paper a higher frame perfect count than an SMB1 any% TAS tie shows his insane consistency and capability as a speedrunner.

    • @vilanokaizo
      @vilanokaizo Год назад

      There are peaple who have done 100+ mid air schel jump en that is 100+ frame perfacts so that dusen,t count

  • @turkey339
    @turkey339 Год назад +1

    I love the Diddy kong racing music in the background. Good video!

  • @mycophobia
    @mycophobia Год назад +17

    i was on the fence of whether it's possible or not to perfect this run, but knowing now by the end of the video that a perfect 8-4 has been done in isolation by humans tells me it's only a matter of time

  • @shottysteve
    @shottysteve 2 месяца назад

    the 15:30-16:10 section is perfect. great video.

  • @1ted59
    @1ted59 Год назад +4

    I can't believe the speedrun has 1 ted 59 frame perfect inputs

  • @andrewdiles2152
    @andrewdiles2152 Год назад +1

    A lot of time goes into understanding the game well enough to make this information so digestible, bravo!
    Also, thank you for not including segments of yelled profanity when runners get a new WR. I expect a lot of viewers have kids - I tend to watch videos like this while doing dishes - and it's nice not to have to worry about my kids suddenly hearing that.

  • @Xnoob545
    @Xnoob545 Год назад +111

    Wait, perfect 8-4 has already been done?
    Then we surely gonna get the perfect speedrun. Let's do this. (not me though, i suck at this game)

    • @Dimitri_gdr
      @Dimitri_gdr Год назад +9

      The odds is 1/(300*1000) or 1/300 000 for Niftski so it's not happening now lol

    • @nothing9260
      @nothing9260 Год назад +52

      ​@@Dimitri_gdrNiftski aint human tho
      This vid will be outdated next week😂

    • @Dimitri_gdr
      @Dimitri_gdr Год назад +1

      @@nothing9260 😂

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Год назад +14

      @@Dimitri_gdr Yeah he will definitely have to improve at 8-4 to get the perfect time. (Or get insanely lucky.) But he will improve, and he will continue to improve at 4-2 as well. So will Miniland, Lekukie, etc. I'm not sure if he or someone else will get a perfect run (and if they do, it's not going to happen tomorrow), but it's definitely possible.

    • @TF2Starlight
      @TF2Starlight Год назад +4

      And that's not accounting for the nerves, 300k to 1 is through raw skill

  • @Caleb.3473
    @Caleb.3473 Год назад

    I love this so much! thanks for putting the time on this and gl on the sponsorships:)

  • @Roeming
    @Roeming Год назад +4

    18:43 I think the graphs are wrong, 59 is at the height of 49, and 68 is at the height of 58

  • @BinkysCorner
    @BinkysCorner Год назад

    I really appreciate the 10:28 section. Really fun shot. Thought my vid player was messing up, but no it was just a fun idea.
    Great vid as always Kosmic. Hope to run into your peach on slippi sometime!!

  • @Dungeon47
    @Dungeon47 Год назад +7

    12:14 This cannot be stressed enough. I wish every child was taught this.

    • @Margen67
      @Margen67 Год назад

      Chickens need HUGS

    • @nivyan
      @nivyan Год назад

      They are, but they're also taught critical thinking and realise hard work doesn't always pay off.

  • @EchidnaKida
    @EchidnaKida Год назад

    God thank you so much not just for this video, but for using Prime's Chozo Ruins theme. Absolutely some of the best background music ever composed and it's such a vibe.

  • @Okeana_Aster
    @Okeana_Aster Год назад +17

    Well hey, when speedrunners eventually find a strategy to make 4:53 doable (it might take a long time, but knowing the speedrunning community, it'll happen eventually), we know who will be the first person to actually pull it off.
    It'll clearly be a part of speedrunning history, and I'm glad I learned about 4:53 thanks to you, that way I can be there when it happens.

    • @Dimitri_gdr
      @Dimitri_gdr Год назад +8

      Imo 4:53 will not happen, I think some tricky sections have been bruteforced so it's proven to not be possible

    • @Dimitri_gdr
      @Dimitri_gdr Год назад

      I may be wrong

    • @LendriMujina
      @LendriMujina Год назад

      I got confused for a second because I thought you were referring to the video timecode at first. Then I realized I'm kind of a dummy.

    • @nothing9260
      @nothing9260 Год назад +6

      Well, even the l+r TAS doesn't reach 4:53 (established since 2011 or so)
      So we would have to find a game breaking bug for this to work

    • @Okeana_Aster
      @Okeana_Aster Год назад +1

      @@nothing9260 Yes well I'm sure it'll happen. How many skips that were once thought to be impossible were made possible years later ? No matter how long it takes, I'm convinced that it will happen eventually. We will have that game-breaking bug.

  • @colio500
    @colio500 Год назад

    I'm already seeing it a ton in the comments, but I musts concur, this was an amazing video. Your Niftski video was also really good. It's great to have someone so knowledgeable about the game show us how truly amazing these runs, and the people that perform them, are.

  • @ClayGravil
    @ClayGravil Год назад +3

    To really understand SMB1 speedruns , you gotta understand frame rules. I like to think of them like a bus stop at the flagpole.... (Channel your inner summoningsalt impression from here.)

  • @grahamwilson8843
    @grahamwilson8843 Год назад +1

    Great video man! Thanks for demystifying the "frame perfect" trope and presenting the info in an organized and intelligent way. Five stars 👍

  • @TooIAssistedSpeedrun
    @TooIAssistedSpeedrun Год назад +11

    If he perfects 8-4 it’s GG. He can take my job.

    • @RibamarGamer
      @RibamarGamer Год назад

      Lmao.

    • @GriffinForte
      @GriffinForte 7 месяцев назад

      You should actually make a tas that would be cool

  • @HoganLegDropSoup
    @HoganLegDropSoup Год назад

    Man, sorry that you have a hard time getting subscribers. Your content is actually top notch. With almost every RUclipsr out there I opened their videos in the brave browser to avoid ads, I'm purposely going out of my way to watch yours with ads and not skip any of them. You are awesome bro and you release garbage filler content.
    Everything that you put out is gold. You deserve more subscribers than you have and I'm subscribed to you on both of my accounts.
    Just keep up the good work man. I will see keep spreading the word as best I can

  • @dungeonmaster6292
    @dungeonmaster6292 10 месяцев назад +3

    Why do i dislike that he's using a keyboard instead of the arthritis inducing brick controller of the original NES

  • @lvparm
    @lvparm 11 месяцев назад +1

    This was very well put together! Great watch 🎉

  • @bipolarprobe
    @bipolarprobe Год назад +3

    One of the things I've never really asked about mario bros frame rules is how close to tas you actually have to be to make the perfect frame rule. I know it's 21 frames, but if tas makes the next fastest framerule by 2 frames, you can only be one frame slower and still hit the frame rule. Essentially I'm just curious how many frames of leeway does each frame rule level actually have to make the perfect frame rule.

    • @a_little_flame589
      @a_little_flame589 Год назад

      it depends on the level i know 1-1 has 15 frames of lee way i imagine like 4-2 though has like 5

    • @EebstertheGreat
      @EebstertheGreat Год назад +4

      Some levels are very tight. In 8-1 and 8-2, you can't lose a single frame with current strategies. (It's possible to play them a tiny bit faster, but that's harder, so runners don't.) In 1-1 you have 3 frames to spare with normal strats (and with a backup out of the pipe, you can lose another frame or two). I'm not sure about 4-1 or 8-3, but runners rarely lose time in those levels anyway except for missing the fpg, which ends the attempt. 1-2 and 4-2 technically have a little more wiggle room if done perfectly, but they are extremely hard to do perfectly, so in practice they are also very tight. In 4-2 in particular it's technically possible to save a pretty large handful of frames, like 16 or 17 or something, but only by switching to a much more difficult bump strategy and adding fast accels and a perfect turnaround (each of which is multiple tricky frame-perfect inputs). With normal strats, I think the best time you can get is something like 2 frames before the next frame rule. Those numbers for 4-2 are probably not exactly right, but that's the gist.

  • @RickSjoerds
    @RickSjoerds Год назад

    I have played this game at day one. For servers weeks, maybe months, but seeing you guys do this with that “ol’ game”. It’s just amazing. Absolutely love watching the runs, seeing and hearing the knowledge being explained, the tricks being accomplished, the world records being pulled off.
    Great to see, thank you!

  • @KingOfJonnyBoy
    @KingOfJonnyBoy Год назад +3

    23% at 4-2 and b3b IN RUNS really is something to see

    • @AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn
      @AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn Год назад

      Well, eventually, the top clip will be practiced, so 4-2 will then rise to 40%, 60%, 80%, 90%, maybe even 100%.

    • @KingOfJonnyBoy
      @KingOfJonnyBoy Год назад +2

      @@AlbertTheGamer-gk7sn no shot, I don't know if anyone other then Tole thinks it's easier, Im pretty sure there are more frame perfect inputs, and current lightning route is pretty easy to backup as long as you get the first wiggle.

  • @historylife4436
    @historylife4436 Год назад +1

    Great video! Your documentary skills are improving quite a bit!

  • @TheHeartlessAlchemist
    @TheHeartlessAlchemist Год назад +6

    That Pop-off when he got the WR was SOOOOOOO satisfying!

  • @Allen1350
    @Allen1350 Год назад +1

    Peach: "Mario, I've been kidnapped by Bowser, come save me!"
    Mario: "Alexa, set timer for 4 minutes and 54 seconds."

  • @nabstersm63
    @nabstersm63 Год назад +10

    There are loads of perfect speedruns in nearly every game. Haven’t you heard of that guy named TAS?

  • @dr.phlosion7485
    @dr.phlosion7485 Год назад +1

    I think this is once again one of the greatest analysis videos i have seen this year, thank you for that one and i´m happy for you that this Vid pops off Kos. Always been a fan, never gonna forget you ^^

    • @Margen67
      @Margen67 Год назад

      Typhlosion needs HUGS

  • @ChamblesRNG
    @ChamblesRNG Год назад +3

    Still can not believe keyboard and controller is the same category

    • @m0rty161
      @m0rty161 Год назад

      emulators have a setting that make it impossible to do anything you can't do with an original controler

  • @Merennulli
    @Merennulli Год назад

    I'm glad you covered this. It's hard to wrap my head around what he managed to do in that run. Especially knowing he has done a perfect 8-4, meaning a potentially unbeatable record is not just possible but terrifyingly likely with his consistency. Assuming nobody is sitting on a new TAS at least.

  • @colwellalec
    @colwellalec Год назад +4

    That Home Alone speedrun had me cracking up as the runner is just dicking around and discovering things in the world record lol

  • @hudsonv1962
    @hudsonv1962 Год назад

    Niftski’s performance is a great reinterpretation of the saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.” He’s not the old dog, but he seems to defy any resistance that other newer runners would face; his starting point is far beyond runners of the past, and clearly also of present runners. His potential is, evidently, literal perfection.
    I’d like to hope there are tons of runners like Niftski that are yet undiscovered, because the precision required to have such a high accuracy with regular / chained frame perfect moves is just insane. Not to say he makes everything look easy, but his success speaks for itself, even without trying to make a subjective comparison to other runners.

  • @MigueUgartechea
    @MigueUgartechea Год назад +3

    I hope I'm alive by the time someone reaches perfection

  • @blakfloyd
    @blakfloyd Год назад

    Excellent video, dude! Thanks for making it. Good music choices throughout, too.

  • @adamnorthey571
    @adamnorthey571 Год назад +4

    I respect the skill involved. although it being done on a keyboard should be in a separate category as you can put L+R inputs at the same time. grats tho

    • @Kosmicd12
      @Kosmicd12  Год назад +2

      The emulator does not allow L+R to be input

    • @adamnorthey571
      @adamnorthey571 Год назад +1

      @@Kosmicd12 well in that case gg to him. i take it back

  • @nathanphillips8874
    @nathanphillips8874 Год назад

    This was pretty incredibly put together. You've gained a subscriber! Well done.

  • @mitchtaylor177
    @mitchtaylor177 Год назад +3

    Doesn't it have to be on an original hardware controller? Like it is harder to do inputs using a controller over a keyboard? I'm not part of the speed run community I was just curious when I saw a keyboard so I am just asking is all :)

    • @mycophobia
      @mycophobia Год назад

      if your keyboard is set up to have a 1:1 correspondence of key to input and L+R is disabled then it's equivalent to any other valid controller by the rules of the leaderboard.

    • @m0rty161
      @m0rty161 Год назад

      @@mycophobia tl;dr through emulation settings, keyboard is unable to do anything a controller can't

    • @mycophobia
      @mycophobia Год назад

      was my comment really that long...? @@m0rty161

  • @MJIZZEL
    @MJIZZEL Год назад +1

    Hey great breakdown kosmic. I got into speed running because of watching one of your world records. Probably kinda not typical of a guy in hus nid 40's i guess but i dont mind.
    With that said, i know my way around many different spotrts and speedrunning definitely reminds me of athletic competition, more similar to something like golf as your competing against the course in that sport but the similarities are there with the others.
    However, in sports or fighting, you will have outliers occasionally. Guys or teams that just seem to separate themselves from the other elites of the sport. Golf with tiger, basketball with Jordan, hockey with gretsky, mma with jon jones, etc.
    When that happens, you can do nothing but enjoy living at that moment. Enjoy witnessing greatness.
    SMB1 is experiencing that right now with niftski. Im still shocked that he had record pace with 2nd quest. Crazy.

  • @Benobot99
    @Benobot99 Год назад +4

    I still wish he would have the world record using a real NES controller and on an NES. It just feels wrong to see a keyboard and SMB.

  • @user-hp6pj4sy3k
    @user-hp6pj4sy3k 11 месяцев назад

    Kosmic thank you so much for that explanation of how "frame perfect" doesn't necessarily mean super difficult. I've been watching speedruns for a while now and I had no idea.

  • @qballin1523
    @qballin1523 Год назад +4

    I genuinely believe that one day we will see the perfect SMB1 speed run, and knowing speedrunners chances are that it will be sooner than we expect

  • @Homeless_Cow
    @Homeless_Cow Год назад

    The fact that a key contender of SM WR history talks so respectfully and with such admiration for the achievements of “competitor” proves how healthy the speedrun community and yourself is. Very good job on the video, thank you ❤

  • @ericdanielski4802
    @ericdanielski4802 Год назад +3

    Nice video.

  • @Walter_
    @Walter_ Год назад +1

    Whenever LV.MINI did a perfect score in Sound Voltex during a konami official tournament in the final 1v1.
    Or when Zen popped out of nowhere and started taking down the best players in entire Rocket League.
    Or when paqoe beat Silent Clubstep, the most infamous impossible level in Geometry Dash.
    And now that JToH players finally take the thought of beating the "Tower of Spiraling Fates" seriously.
    I knew that it's only a matter of time before nearly all "Impossible" accomplishments we know will be beaten.
    Like i would even believe that in 50-300 years we could see people using robotic fingers or brain implants to improve performance.
    (Of course this technology would be highlighted in military or work at first, but i could see this happen.)

  • @FloydTaylor
    @FloydTaylor Год назад +3

    he's using a keyboard. it doens't count. input lag identical. cool. you know whats not identical. using the awkward AF controller

    • @mengo329
      @mengo329 3 месяца назад

      It does count because the people who are actually knowledgeable have researched the ramifications of keyboard use and came to a real conclusion

  • @archie6248
    @archie6248 Год назад

    It's insane that's Niftski's run is perfect until the TAS reaches that EXACT thumbnail frame in 8-4.
    Great video Kosmic and can't wait for the next .1 barrier...

  • @MINE_OK
    @MINE_OK Год назад +2

    16:43 THAT MUSIC TIMING

  • @XCATX25
    @XCATX25 Год назад +1

    The structure of the video is very good, the audio is good, the topic is very interesting even to casual, these videos should boom even more than this, it is weird

  • @Tyree42069
    @Tyree42069 Год назад

    10:26 I dunno if this was intentional, but I really like how it stutters, yet the stuttering is literally on beat with the paper Mario song

  • @Daimondz1239
    @Daimondz1239 Год назад

    This is so hype. It’s amazing how much grind has gone into this game, how close we’ve gotten, and how far the goal still is. I fully believe niftski or someone else in the community will get the perfect run someday

  • @TrentonBreske-dd2ln
    @TrentonBreske-dd2ln Год назад

    This is amazing! The skill and dedication required to push a speedrun this far is great. Everyone in the speedrunning community, and especially Niftsky, Amazing job!

  • @mordet2
    @mordet2 Год назад

    you know, when I think "pop off", I think 11:06. It actually brought a tear to my eye hearing this guy so utterly excited for making history.

  • @seeps9353
    @seeps9353 Год назад +1

    4:20
    Ludwig workin those buttons. She said she loves that thing he does with those fingers.

  • @remembershooting2064
    @remembershooting2064 Год назад

    Great vid, and I love to see your supportive outlook for the guy who's followed in your footsteps.