MK7 vs MK8 Ford Fiesta ST: Did I Make the Wrong Choice?
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- Did I buy the wrong Ford Fiesta ST? Should I have bought a MK8 Fiesta ST instead of my MK7? Today we will find out as me and Sammy compare my MK7 Fiesta ST and her MK8 Fiesta ST to see which one we prefer, and would we change our minds? Find out as we review the MK7 and MK8 Fiesta ST!
We look at the Fiesta ST options of performance, styling, the in car technology, and we take the cars out for a drive both driving our own cars, and also each others cars to see what we think. We get a look at the Fiesta ST acceleration, the handling, launch control, and get a listen to the Fiesta ST exhaust sound as well, taking into consideration that my Fiesta ST MK7 has a stage 1 map on it, and Sammy's Fiesta MK8 ST has an aftermarket Milltek exhaust, and some other amazing additions which make it a great little car.
This video will hopefully help anyone out with making a decision for which Fiesta they wish to buy, the benefits of both, and ultimately, in the end, we find out if I made the wrong decision in buying the MK7 ST.
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Mk7 is better for tuning, you can take them over 300bhp comfortably, mk8 struggles to do that. 4 cyclinders always better than 3
Ah really? Never knew that, I honestly always thought the 7 was going to be behind, although I have spoke to a few people with 7s in the 300s. I assume that is stage 3 or is it 4/bigger turbo?
@@dominichills yeah stage is anything around 300-350ish and stage 4 is 350plus
@@Inactiveaccount358 ah nice, thanks! 👍
Thanks for letting me be a part of your video Dom!! Really enjoyed filming it and I hope everyone enjoys watching it ☺️
No Sammy, thank you for coming on and helping with the video! 🙌
Wish we got the 3d in Australia. Yours looks tuff af
@@lunch2102 Ah that's gutting you don't get that version dude!
I love my ST-3 😍 Like Sammy said ST Gang 🚘 we are out here 🛣😎
@mrbaza8793 haha good to hear! I'll be hopefully bringing more mods soon!
I've had multiple Mk6's from 150-200bhp, I've had a Mk7.5 at 215bhp and now a Mk8.5 at 235bph and I can honestly say they're all different experiences and are all very' very fun in their own rights - you can't really go wrong with any of them.
From my experience and my personal preference, I think the Mk7.5 is the best drivers car, the 4 pot just drives nicer and it can be tuned to well over 300bhp on stock engine internals.
Great video 😎
Yeah I'm the same. I do love a good ST150, and the Mk8 is nice, more luxuries, but I like the 4 cylinder engine of the 7.5 and less luxuries.
Thanks, and thanks for watching! 👍
I’ve had all 3 standard & think mk8 is the best had a mk8.5 on order 3 door but it got changed to a 5 door & after 9 months no updates & attitude from the dealer so cancelled it. I think out of all 3 mk7.5 would be more reliable & cheaper to repair
James why more reliable
@@Plantandequipment I had my mk7.5 from brand new & had it for five years & only problem I had was a broken coil spring which was partly my fault. The mk8 has an infamous oil leak most have been fixed plus steering rack issues if you don’t drive the car for 2 days you get a warning on the app about having a low battery you get a clunk from steering at full lock. I didn’t have all of these issues but a lot of owners did
Are they reliable?
The handling is 14% better on the mk8. And the suspension is more forgiving.
Ford facts.
Everyone I’ve talked to about this comparison says the mk7 is the better drivers car and the mk8 is just full of gimmicks so I’m a proud owner of the mk7
Definitely for me I like the raw drive of the mk7 and it does feels more of a drivers car. The mk8 has its luxuries making it feel nicer in those senses but I am glad I have a mk7 for the raw drive.
😂 owned both and disagree with that. The mk8 is the stiffer chassis and the better handling of the two out the box, not sure where the gimmicks you talk about are. Night and day, mk8 is a better car all round.
@@gleneverson2612 yeah and that 3 cillinder engine will not age as good as 4 cillinder as a mechanic i know
@@nikyclau3966 speaking as an owner with experience and as a mechanic also, it's aging just nicely 👍 85k miles on mine and recent check details my engine in perfect working order, and it's stage 3 running 293bhp.
@@nikyclau3966tell Toyota that about their GR Yaris engine
some people are getting 400 out of the Mk7... thats NEVER going to happen from a 1.5L 3 pot IMO
Oh yeah too right! I meant like on a standard stage 2. My tuner I found out has 420 out of his Mk7! Insane!!!
Quality video lad! Sammi makes a great co host!
I know right, she's a natural! 🙌
Bought the last MK7 ST although I like the MK8 interior but can’t stand 3 pots
Yeah I'll admit, the interior of the 8 is nice, but give me a 4 cylinder anyday
Good honest video, I own the performance edition with m260 Mountune ! Iv owned the mk7 st and I loved it . Owned the mk6 st150 😂 they are all great cars . My mrs own a mk8.5 st 5dr . I wish it was mine.
Wow, you're a big Ford lover then! Yes, they're all great cars, but amazingly they all have their own little perks and that's when it becomes what you want from each one on which you then would have 👌
the 3 cyl will not have many miles... they will break down
I wish they had the MK8 in the US, I’d buy it in a heartbeat
Mk7 looks much better than the mk8 my opinion
I agree on this, but totally get each to their own. I just think it is more aggressive. 👌
@@dominichills and dont forget that 1.5 litre and 3 cillinder will not last as long as a 4 cillinder same was whit mk6 focus st 2.5 5 cillinder vs the mk7
Just bought the last ST 3 model, the ride on the shitty British roads is killing my back. Any suggestions to soften the ride.
Coilovers I would say would be a good investment. The Tein ones on my Evo I can make firmer or softer so that would be useful.
Mk8 is around 100kg heavier so needs a bit more power. Ran a mk7.5 for 5 years and now a mk8. Prefer the way the mk7.5 drove but the mk8 interior and infotainment is miles better. Love the sound of the mk8 though..
Ah that's great to hear the experience of someone who has had both. Off the bat I agree with the driving of the 7.5 but yes the 8 is nice with the luxuries. Tbh you make a great point as I never checked the weight difference. Oh yes, Sammy has the Milltek exhaust on hers I believe. Mine was just stock.
good luck with that crappy wet belt.
st180 is so much better
Overboost is to 200hp and like 290nM of torque. While ST200 Mk7 (stock 200hp/290nM) has overboost to 215hp/320nM.
Mk8 ST has 200hp/290nM stock.
7 kg lighter then the original ones? You mean 7kg over all 4...?!
Yes it meant 7kg for all 4. 👍
Had 2015 Mk7.5 and now 2017 Mk7.5 , the last of the 4 cylinder 1.6. jobs ,driven Mk 8 and yes more modern instruments , but not liking the grille & B Max rear lights , also not as much of a 'driver,s' car I feel , that,s as a mechanic. in the 70,s on Jaguar/Rover/Triumph and life long enthusiast , 3 pot 1.5 just lacks the rawness and power/torque band of the 1.6 4 cylinder Mk7.5 , also balance of the 3 cylinders ,needing a harmonic balancer speaks for itself with being required .
I'm the same, I like the raw feeling of the 7.5, but again everyone has their own likes and dislikes. I'm glad I got the 4 cylinder 7.5, I've always liked the shape as well. 👌
I had an MK8 ST, I sold it and bought MK7.5 ST200.
Interior is worse, but I love driving it much more. More pure and oldschool driving sensation
@manuelorozg7342 oh for sure, I think everyone would agree the Mk8 is lovely inside compared to a 7 or 7.5, but that raw drive of the 7/7.5 is the one for me! 👍
@@dominichills Completely mate!
the mk8 suffers from wheel hop, thats the banging you hear when using the launch control. one of the best mods is an uprated roll restrictor, mountune do one, stops the wheel hop. i have owned my mk8 st for 4 years bought it new. running stage 1 map 250bhp really transforms the car. milltek exhaust on mine, short shifter , mountune carbon air intake etc etc. kind of wish id got a performance edition as the coilovers are made by kw and are basically the variant 3 they sell and cost over £2k.
Oh wow that's really good to know. I'll see if Sammy has read this. Do you get the nornal wheel spin like Sammy said she does, and if so does the roll restriction help with this? That's awesome, they're so tunable and I said to Sammy her mk8 would do well with a stage one as it's a 25% power increase. Which stage 1 do you have? Oh and yes, that milltek exhaust does sound good! 🙌
@@dominichills Hi, I've currently got a molten orange MK7.5 and a MK8 Edition. Adding a MT roll restrictor to the MK8 does introduce more vibration through the chassis (there's always a price to pay) but is virtually unnoticeable in the MK7.5 also with a MT RR. Maybe this addition amplifies the 3-pots inherent unbalanced nature a bit more? The KW V3's are brilliant and allow the MK8 to ride so much better than the MK7.5 (which is on MT lowering springs and standard shocks). I actually prefer the raw feel of the MK7.5, though also love the better ride quality and interior of the MK8. Short shifters are brilliant upgrades for both cars as are the air filters and air/coolant hoses, brake discs, pads and braided brake hoses IMHO. I would summarise that there is not much to choose between either models as there are plusses and minuses to owning and using both.
Have you both still got the same cars? Or what have you got now?
Yes we do. Then I also have my Evo 8, and we share a track car project we are building together.
@@dominichills very good. I’ve just picked up a 2013 mk7
Amazing car for very little money
Are Dump valves thing of the past? no one seems to talk about them anymore
@@Shooting-Up nice! You'll love it
@@Shooting-Up I know some use dump valves on them, but it's totally up to you, remember, it's your build!
We don't get the MK8 out here, or any Ford car for that matter. Having said that, am I the only one that thinks the MK8 is *really* ugly.
I think a lot of people prefer the Mk7 for sure, me personally I do as well. I just think it's more aggressive looking.
Mk7 is way better on chassis , development, I was at mountune and some customers regret going mk8 , they now are looking for mk7 , the mk8 is a general model fiesta with a 3 cylinder , oh and mk7 does have. Reverse camera option
@Gts2pro yeah I've read a lot more since and seen how the Mk7 is more tunable etc. Mine was second hand so obviously just didn't come with it.
I’ve got a MK7 running 345bhp and a quaffe diff, it’s unreal! However ive been told the mk8 handles better at higher speeds and the front end feels more planted.
That sounds mega! My tuner has a 420bhp track car Mk7. The 8 is better up to stage 2 from what I've read but then the extra cylinder on the 7 just destroys the 8 from there.
Excellent Video Dominic given the Comparision......personally, I'm going for the mk7 ST-3 prefer the rawness, looks and tunability..........just My Opinion! Sammi ads good Comments for the mk8! Please take Mercedes Cap off lol!!
Haha she's a Mercedes fan, but it might be Ferrari once Lewis leaves 🤣 Thanks for watching, yes I'm definitely more of a Mk7/7.5 fan for that raw feeling, but totally understand where the people who like the 8 have their reasoning 👍
I’ve had both & the mk8 is better it’s quicker pulling away more comfortable exhaust pops & bangs in sport mode & steering has more feel in sport. There’s an oil leak the 1.5 suffers from but mine didn’t have it Ford paused production on them 2 years ago to sort it on new ones plus battery isn’t great on mk8 if you don’t drive it for a couple of days you get a warning on your app about it
Nice to hear some long term thoughts from an owner who has had both cars. Obviously only having a 7.5 I can say I do love it. Did you find like Sammy you get quite a bit of wheel spin in the Mk8?
When did Ford start building Mach e two doors?
Great video guys, my missus bought a mk.8, it's just better looking!!
Thanks, yeah, everyone has their own tastes but they're both good cars!
you def bought the best looking one. i would love a mk8 but i think it looks to "cute" the mk7 looks way more aggresive.
@@mikegaming3826 agreed!
@@dominichills i own a mk7 st for over 3 years now but i really wanna upgrade to a mk8 just for the features
@mikegaming3826 I can see why tbh. Mk7 better to tune though.
@@dominichillsyeah it’s now on it’s way to be a stage 2. it’s only at 48k mile’s so a long way to go before it gets to “old” for me haha i always like to sell my cars at like 70k mile’s so once the 70k will be hit i’m all in for a mk8
@mikegaming3826 nice! Mines 80k chassis but had a rebuild before I bought it so only 2k miles on the engine 💪
The mk6 st 150 looks better than the mk7 and mk8. the whole style of the mk 7 I think is horrible. Mk 8 for the last fiesta they did a better job looks wise
Each to their own, the Mk6 was good but I wouldn't say the 7 is horrible. Personal opinion though so it is all down to what you like and dislike 👍
2020 I was looking into buying a MK7 or MK8. Drove both and prefered the MK7 4 cylinder and rawness over the nicer more modern interior MK8. Happy owner now 3 years and counting. Love my MK7
Exactly the same for me! 🙌
haha the facial expressions of when you are doing launch control are priceless. For me they really upped the game on the Mk8 interior, its what let the mk7's down. It feels much more quality and is a much nicer place to be. If you need an unbiased independent adjudicator to provide feedback. I am available for hire 😂
Haha, I'm sure you are! But yes, the Mk7 interior does feel dated to me when you get in the Mk8 for sure!
nice ford cap
I hope you have the original tyres on for the test.
Why?
@@dominichills I drove on both tipes on my st and the Bridgestone is in a different class than the pilot sport....
@@phillipshepherd1465 interesting as most people love a PS4/PS5, but I've always wondered on Bridgestone
@@dominichills PS3 Vs Potenza and 2times I had an incident with PS3. Never with Bridgestone potenza. And also potholes, PS3 failed me on a moderate strike. Not Bridgestone!PS3 you loose your car in mid corner, the side walls is way to shoft. My experience...
@phillipshepherd1465 good to know as I'll need some new tyres for my Evo soon
I like that orange Mach e.
The mk8 is more tunable?? First I’ve heard. Show me a mk8 with 350hp with a few bolt ons.
The mk7 is far more tunable
From what I've heard for stage 2 the Mk8 will make around 270-280bhp whereas the mk7 will make around 240bhp.
Again, only from what I've read in forums so for stage 3 I've only read too much about it. Only thing I've seen now recently is people going for 350bhp on the mk7 with aftermarket turbos etc is causing a lot of them to blow up, or burst into flames.
But yes after stage 2 from what I've read it changes that the 7 becomes a different animal. But I was focusing more on the stage 1 and 2 levels as that's where I'm currently at.
It’s probably due to the upgraded intercooler that is in the mk8. A stage 3 for mk7 is an intercooler and new turbo correct me if wrong.
@criSOME1 yeah, so I meant on stock from what I've read the 8 is better up to stage 2. If going Aftermarket turbos etc I'm not sure what comes out on top, but it seems the 7.5. But then again, as others have said, a lot don't take the 8 further than stage 2
So who knows!
Karl says my clutch is high... I've got so used to it I hadn't noticed. I think Ford should have put cruise control on the ST models. So many people are fitting them after market...
I don't mind having it tbh, for long journeys though it would be good. 👍
@dominichills was really good to learn the differences between the models though 👌🏽
Great video mate 🙏🔥
Cheers dude! 👊
The mk8 st 4 Dr is a must-have
I have the mk7 with 4 doors
Does your St pop stock or is that the map
Honestly I'm not sure, I think it might be the map but it isn't a pop and bang map as you can get those seperate
@@dominichills cool, tbh I'm not a massive fan of pop and bang maps i prefer more natural pops i heard them maps can mess up your engine and they get annoying fun at 1st plus im a massive sucker for looking after my cars before i drive i always sit there for 2 mins lol and annoys my passengers. yes i still have my fun in the car but every time i see someone bouncing off their limiter or doing burnouts im like why in my head idk im not sure if that weird me being a car guy and not liking burnouts. though tbh i did that when i was young in my 1st car attempted a burnout just a quick one too see what it was like and i did it and the tyres wasn't even spinning lol prob as its a front wheel drive i didn't break it maybe whoever is owning it now might get a issue with it because of that idk.
@jayfrosvlogs yeah I get that each to their own. You can put in a switch to remove them when you like etc if you fancy it. Mine has one but I might get a switch or get it removed but mine are mapped for 2 seconds of overrun so that won't be an issue for the turbo. It's usually anti-lag I believe that can cause more issues.
@@dominichills yours is more like a loud bang I think which is alright pretty fun to listen too not sure damages the engine or not but better then bang bang bang all the time
give me 4 cylinder engine any day and more fuel economy.
@peterdukess9115 now I've driven it more, the MK7 is a cracker!
Dominic Hills what is your favorite Ford
I would have to say a 1967-69 Mustang Fastback Shelby GT500, like Eleanor from Gone In 60 Seconds!
What about you?
Dominic Hills my favorite Ford is the Ford mustang dark horse
@user-xy4mq2fo9t oh nice, just looked it up! I had a 2016 mustang at one point, did love that thing!
Dominic Hills my favorite Corvette is the Corvette C8 what's your favorite Corvette