He was not much of an underdog, that just made for a good plot for a movie, the smaller lighter boat was made for tight corners. Jim pulled away and won out front, not like the movie at all. This race is way to narrow to be safe with the new boats...unless you like like 2 and 3 boat heats
The movie was great to introduce many people to the classic piston boats. I loved the part of the movie where they drove up to Columbus to “borrow” the engine out of the World War II display plane.
Wow I love how they just drag the injured guy back to shore up against the boat! Lol These races are the reason why I got into 1/8th scale rc boat racing, I love my Oh Boy Oberto!
@2:00; Bill Muncey the greatest Unlimited Hydro driver ever. I've always loved the conventional (& the cabover) boats with the WW ll "War Bird" piston engines the most. Their sound is incredible!!! RIP Bill Muncey & Dean Chenowith (Miss Budweiser) They had the greatest classic battles. That's what got me interested in Unlimited Hydroplane racing in the first place.
@@ussrsniper1877 Two names that come to mind are Jim Kropfeld and Tom D'Eath. Both worked their way up through the Unlimited Hydro's and eventually drove for Bernie Little's Miss Budweiser Team. I haven't heard of them for many years and I have to wonder what happened to both of those super-competitive drivers? Could they have been injured (or God forbid worse?) I remember that Chip Hanouer left the Atlas Van Lines to Join the Miss Budweiser Team. Bernie Little's health had been failing some time ago therefore the Miss Budweiser Team closed shop. PS; The Bud Team under Bernie Little, back in the day, was much like Roger Penske's IndyCar Team and they could always hire the best driver, at the time, thereby keeping the Miss Budweiser at the top of the National Points Standings. Thank you for your inquiry. Best wishes, Tim
LOVE the man putting in the high octane fuel with a cigar in his mouth. At least it is not lit! To be fair they were inhaling a huge amount of deadly carbon monoxide... ...from the exhaust too!
If anyone can point me to a video of a race without the commentary, I'd love to watch it (hear it!) As a kid, my father was able to get pit passes, so I was able to be down on the docks when the boats would throttle up for a start. 6-8 Merlins and Griffons roaring down the water with a bit of Doppler effect is the best sound on Earth.
The Rolls was better. In the '50's Britain would not allow the big fighter plane engines out of the country, so great boats like Slo-mo-shun4 used the local Allison's, which my air forc pilot father said at the end of WW2 could be had, surplus in the crate, for only about $400. Then the British allowed Canadians to use the Merlin's and they dominated. Look up the stories of how engineers at Rolls Royce Aero Engines were testing the 'Thompson Trophy' version, and breaking them in so they could go to full power from the start - the biggest dyno there went up to 3,999bp, but they pushed the big dial past zero as much as they dared and wrote down 4,003. BUT these were made for "war emergency power" meaning they would last only a few hours, maybe 5 hours at full power before blowing/having to be rebuilt.
@@gordonanderson3111 Nonsense. Britain sure did let the Merlin out of the country in WW2 when they licensed Packard to build it in the USA. By the time the 1950's rolled around, the aviation business was all about jet engines, and keeping recip engine technology secret was long past. Britain used the Merlin in their commercial transport planes in the 1950's, and "transport banks" (cylinder banks from the commercial engines) are the ones sought after by modern Merlin builders. I read about the Thompson Trophy races years ago and can tell you for certain they didn't run the Merlin. The Merlin didn't even exist then. They used the R engine, which was a modified version of the Buzzard. I have never read any reference that indicates the R made more than 2500 HP. The R was eventually redesigned into the Griffon, which was also used in unlimited Hydroplanes. Allison pioneered War Emergency Ratings in WW2, being the first to pass the 7-hour qualification test required by the USAAF. Their G model was the only one to pass it with a rated speed of 3200 rpm. Many of the high-performance Merlins built for Reno air racing use Allison G-model connecting rods.
Muncey losing that sponson, was so similar to what happened to him in the original Thriftway, in 1957. Then, he hit either a roller, or maybe an object, which ripped the left sponson to shreds, and there was even more damage across the bow...it was not rebuildable. Over his amazing career, Muncey certainly had his share of accidents, even though he was, overall, the best driver of his era.
Yes!...Not only nationally, but during his years in Seattle..he was really good at commenting on local UW football games! His years working for ABC speak for themselves...he was just excellent! And he somehow made the Hydro races exciting, even with all the pauses, and waiting around for the various heats. Rod Belcher was pretty good too...but Keith was simply on another level!
The voice, the show, was always the way boat racing should have stayed... The youth of today, and the lack of journalism in today's TV cast... Just really miss this. If only today's TV announcers could learn from this. But today's folks think their egos are what their agenda's are... If only!!!!
This was a real "dream team" of announcers, Muncey, and the great Keith Jackson, who was so flexible, could host and comment on several different athletic events. He spent some time in Seattle, as the main Sports guy at KOMO. Muncey had worked for KING TV and also their radio station, when not racing!..He even hosted a Seattle version of Dick Clark's American bandstand!...I think he was being promoted as being a "cool" dude, in touch with the Seattle youth. It did not work though...Bill was kinda short, stocky, and balding even in his mid-twenties!...I can relate to this, as I eventually became one of those types of guys when I hit my 20s! I had forgotten, how Muncey, after Thriftway was retired, jockeyed several boats for a few years, before he really hit his stride once again, with that "Blue Blaster", pickle-fork design Atlas Van Lines. What an amazing career....I was truly shocked, when he finally had one accident too many, in 1982. He seemed to be so invulnerable to serious injury, even when he plowed into that Coast Guard cutter in 1958! In this video, at the end, he articulated so well why drivers could not easily retire...they needed that "Thrill of Victory".
i would like to know the specs for the props they used ..because those motors only turn like 4000 rpm max ..have to be one hell of a pitch on the props
Watch a few of the vids on RUclips, done by the Hydroplane Museum in Kent, Wash!...they have a couple of mechanics that explain all sorts of details about thos Airplane powerful engines.
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I've watched the movie a hundred times, but never have seen the original broadcast. What an awesome way to spend an hour!
I went to the Atomic Cup and Seattle Seafair in 1971. What an underdog win for Jim McCormick and the Miss Madison that day. This video is a treasure!
He was not much of an underdog, that just made for a good plot for a movie, the smaller lighter boat was made for tight corners. Jim pulled away and won out front, not like the movie at all. This race is way to narrow to be safe with the new boats...unless you like like 2 and 3 boat heats
It's a shame we will never see that kind of spectacular again! I loved growing up in the 60's
There is still plenty of spectacle to witness. Many of the old-time thrill are better than ever today. Go witness a Top Fuel NHRA event.
Was at the race as a 5yr old...love seeing the steeple of my dad's church in the panoramic shots . Miss Madison
Ah, the good ol' days of unlimited hydros. Thanks for sharing!
This was one of the greatest and most important victories in hydroplane history. This literally help save the town of Madison
The movie was great to introduce many people to the classic piston boats. I loved the part of the movie where they drove up to Columbus to “borrow” the engine out of the World War II display plane.
Wow I love how they just drag the injured guy back to shore up against the boat! Lol
These races are the reason why I got into 1/8th scale rc boat racing, I love my Oh Boy Oberto!
So you're a miss Madison fan as well
These were better times...wish I could go back.
@2:00; Bill Muncey the greatest Unlimited Hydro driver ever. I've always loved the conventional (& the cabover) boats with the WW ll "War Bird" piston engines the most. Their sound is incredible!!! RIP Bill Muncey & Dean Chenowith (Miss Budweiser) They had the greatest classic battles. That's what got me interested in Unlimited Hydroplane racing in the first place.
Don't forget Jim miccormick and Tommy fults
@@ussrsniper1877 Absolutely. Two more HOF drivers. Thank you for adding them.
@@timford3599 any other ones u can think of I don't know that much I was born in 2007 so I don't know that much 60s and 70s driver
@@ussrsniper1877 Two names that come to mind are Jim Kropfeld and Tom D'Eath. Both worked their way up through the Unlimited Hydro's and eventually drove for Bernie Little's Miss Budweiser Team. I haven't heard of them for many years and I have to wonder what happened to both of those super-competitive drivers? Could they have been injured (or God forbid worse?) I remember that Chip Hanouer left the Atlas Van Lines to Join the Miss Budweiser Team. Bernie Little's health had been failing some time ago therefore the Miss Budweiser Team closed shop. PS; The Bud Team under Bernie Little, back in the day, was much like Roger Penske's IndyCar Team and they could always hire the best driver, at the time, thereby keeping the Miss Budweiser at the top of the National Points Standings. Thank you for your inquiry. Best wishes, Tim
@@timford3599 who drove the miss Miami
grew up in seattle in the 60's... seafair and the hydros ...loved it....
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Man that was so awesome. Watching stuff like this as a kidd is why I am a mechanic. It's all I've ever wanted to do. Thus underdogs won. Love it.
I used to love watching this show. The odds are good I watched this when it first aired.
I love watching this stuff nowadays man it's amazing to see
Awesome throwback!!! Thanks
Keith Jackson LEGEND
Didn't realize that this was the race the movie was based on until final heat.
LOVE the man putting in the high octane fuel with a cigar in his mouth.
At least it is not lit!
To be fair they were inhaling a huge amount of deadly carbon monoxide...
...from the exhaust too!
If anyone can point me to a video of a race without the commentary, I'd love to watch it (hear it!)
As a kid, my father was able to get pit passes, so I was able to be down on the docks when the boats would throttle up for a start.
6-8 Merlins and Griffons roaring down the water with a bit of Doppler effect is the best sound on Earth.
Thanks H-1 ‼️‼️‼️‼️💜
The Allison vs Rolls-Royce competition was fierce back then, and people STILL debate about which engine was better.
The Rolls was better.
In the '50's Britain would not allow the big fighter plane engines out of the country, so great boats like Slo-mo-shun4 used the local Allison's, which my air forc pilot father said at the end of WW2 could be had, surplus in the crate, for only about $400.
Then the British allowed Canadians to use the Merlin's and they dominated.
Look up the stories of how engineers at Rolls Royce Aero Engines were testing the 'Thompson Trophy' version, and breaking them in so they could go to full power from the start - the biggest dyno there went up to 3,999bp, but they pushed the big dial past zero as much as they dared and wrote down 4,003.
BUT these were made for "war emergency power" meaning they would last only a few hours, maybe 5 hours at full power before blowing/having to be rebuilt.
@@gordonanderson3111 Nonsense. Britain sure did let the Merlin out of the country in WW2 when they licensed Packard to build it in the USA. By the time the 1950's rolled around, the aviation business was all about jet engines, and keeping recip engine technology secret was long past. Britain used the Merlin in their commercial transport planes in the 1950's, and "transport banks" (cylinder banks from the commercial engines) are the ones sought after by modern Merlin builders.
I read about the Thompson Trophy races years ago and can tell you for certain they didn't run the Merlin. The Merlin didn't even exist then. They used the R engine, which was a modified version of the Buzzard. I have never read any reference that indicates the R made more than 2500 HP. The R was eventually redesigned into the Griffon, which was also used in unlimited Hydroplanes.
Allison pioneered War Emergency Ratings in WW2, being the first to pass the 7-hour qualification test required by the USAAF. Their G model was the only one to pass it with a rated speed of 3200 rpm. Many of the high-performance Merlins built for Reno air racing use Allison G-model connecting rods.
@andyharman3022 Well Said sir. I miss the thunderboats. Always went to the Atomic cup in Tri-Cities during 70s. Best of times.
I feel that the Rolls Merlin sounded better than the allison!
@@curbozerboomer1773 Yeah, the Merlin is raspy, and the Allison is buttery smooth.
I saw a hydro with two Hemi engines fire up when we were in Madison to visit the Delta Queen
Smoking a cigar and filling the fuel tank @ 1:16 🤣🤣
that's not lit.
Wish the following was the same nowadays. Shame. Way cool
That last comment before the news break at 27.53 is insanely savage.
*plays taps.
Muncey losing that sponson, was so similar to what happened to him in the original Thriftway, in 1957. Then, he hit either a roller, or maybe an object, which ripped the left sponson to shreds, and there was even more damage across the bow...it was not rebuildable. Over his amazing career, Muncey certainly had his share of accidents, even though he was, overall, the best driver of his era.
Keith Jackson = LEGEND
Yes!...Not only nationally, but during his years in Seattle..he was really good at commenting on local UW football games! His years working for ABC speak for themselves...he was just excellent! And he somehow made the Hydro races exciting, even with all the pauses, and waiting around for the various heats. Rod Belcher was pretty good too...but Keith was simply on another level!
I just watched the movie Madison a couple of weeks ago.
what’d you think about the mayor in that movie
9 yrs later was my first with lots of friends and cold beer it was very hot in Madison on the 4th weekend THUNDER ON THE OHIO 😅
The voice, the show, was always the way boat racing should have stayed...
The youth of today, and the lack of journalism in today's TV cast... Just really miss this.
If only today's TV announcers could learn from this. But today's folks think their egos are what their agenda's are...
If only!!!!
This was a real "dream team" of announcers, Muncey, and the great Keith Jackson, who was so flexible, could host and comment on several different athletic events. He spent some time in Seattle, as the main Sports guy at KOMO. Muncey had worked for KING TV and also their radio station, when not racing!..He even hosted a Seattle version of Dick Clark's American bandstand!...I think he was being promoted as being a "cool" dude, in touch with the Seattle youth. It did not work though...Bill was kinda short, stocky, and balding even in his mid-twenties!...I can relate to this, as I eventually became one of those types of guys when I hit my 20s! I had forgotten, how Muncey, after Thriftway was retired, jockeyed several boats for a few years, before he really hit his stride once again, with that "Blue Blaster", pickle-fork design Atlas Van Lines. What an amazing career....I was truly shocked, when he finally had one accident too many, in 1982. He seemed to be so invulnerable to serious injury, even when he plowed into that Coast Guard cutter in 1958! In this video, at the end, he articulated so well why drivers could not easily retire...they needed that "Thrill of Victory".
To an owner the boats a toy
To a driver she's a lady
To a fan it's THUNDER !
I wasn't even born yet. So missed it by a few months 😂
i would like to know the specs for the props they used ..because those motors only turn like 4000 rpm max ..have to be one hell of a pitch on the props
Watch a few of the vids on RUclips, done by the Hydroplane Museum in Kent, Wash!...they have a couple of mechanics that explain all sorts of details about thos Airplane powerful engines.
Is this Bill Muncey doing commentary with Keith Jackson?
YES!
Supercharged airplane engine and nitrous oxide. Balls of steel
What is the movie about this race called??
Loved the movie .but it showed Madison beating the bud in the movie and the bud boat was red triple sponsor boat.
Big Balls!
Jebus, Fran was getting pulled hither and yan
Dont see the skid collar here. Bob Maschmedt to me developed that .
Good O'ldays
Always has to be the one hater!
Was that Fran he grabbed? Wasn't nice.
I do not like kirby vacuum cleaner engines. THESE are REAL engines. man I miss real engines.
wish it wasn't so. but?-bidumb will take away our sport too. bought rosetta-stone-china version
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